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How will Djokovic defend all those points? Will he fall down the rankings? How far?

Sapeod
05-17-2011, 05:59 PM
He has 7 titles (almost 7000 points) to defend next year, so when it comes to defending all of that, how will he do it? He won't. So, how fast or hard will he fall? If he doesn't defend any of the titles, that's almost 3000 points lost, and that's if he reaches the final in all of them. Maybe he'll lose earlier in some of the tournaments? That means more points lost. Will he fall down the rankings? To no.3? No.4? Let's say he has the no.1 ranking then, will he just fall to no.2?


I think he'll defend a bit of the points (2500 let's say), but he'll fall down to no.3 in the rankings.

MacTheKnife
05-17-2011, 06:02 PM
That only depends on who wins the events next year. If they are spread relatively equally among two to four players, he won't fall as quickly as you think as long as he continues to go deep.

Time Violation
05-17-2011, 06:10 PM
Yup, and also depends how others will defend their points as well. Rafa has both titles and finals this year, Murray has 1 slam final and one masters SF, etc. so it's not like they are defending 0 next year. :)

Sonja1989
05-17-2011, 06:13 PM
We will see what will he do end of this year. But these point will be too much him for defending probably.

Okram04
05-17-2011, 06:19 PM
With the way he is playing now, he could dominate the field for the next few years. It all depends on slams. 2 slams a year could keep him no1 for a long time. We'll see...

Li Ching Yuen
05-17-2011, 06:22 PM
They're gonna sticky him at number one by the end of this season. So no worries.

Pirata.
05-17-2011, 06:28 PM
With the way he is playing now, he could dominate the field for the next few years. It all depends on slams. 2 slams a year could keep him no1 for a long time. We'll see...

:superlol:

Nole will not be winning two slams a year for the next few years.

yesh222
05-17-2011, 06:29 PM
People pay too much attention to points defending. All they show is the next set of points to come off the board. All that really matters is how well you do. If a player has had the best overall results over the past 52 weeks he will be #1 even if he had even better results over the past 53. It's not like you get a negative this year for doing better last year. The only real difference is the level of pressure, which hopefully professional athletes at the top of the game can handle.

Filo V.
05-17-2011, 06:30 PM
Premature and presumptuous.

navy75
05-17-2011, 06:34 PM
How is winning every match that you play ever a bad thing?

r2473
05-17-2011, 06:42 PM
How is winning every match that you play ever a bad thing?

Winning everything is never a good idea. Just look where it got Fed and Nadal (on clay) these past 5+ years.

If Fed and Nadal could go back and do it all over again, I'm sure they'd strive for mediocrity.

Garson007
05-17-2011, 07:16 PM
Easy. Win everything again next year. :wavey:

Mr. Oracle
05-17-2011, 07:17 PM
LOL, this will no doubt help you elevate murray's status via an artificial and superfluous ranking system. sad.

He has 7 titles (almost 7000 points) to defend next year, so when it comes to defending all of that, how will he do it? He won't. So, how fast or hard will he fall? If he doesn't defend any of the titles, that's almost 3000 points lost, and that's if he reaches the final in all of them. Maybe he'll lose earlier in some of the tournaments? That means more points lost. Will he fall down the rankings? To no.3? No.4? Let's say he has the no.1 ranking then, will he just fall to no.2?


I think he'll defend a bit of the points (2500 let's say), but he'll fall down to no.3 in the rankings.

Certinfy
05-17-2011, 07:19 PM
That's why his results till the end of the year are still very significant regardless or what Nadal does. Either way I can't see him slipping to anything below 2 unless he goes back into that horrible form he was in the last few years, which is probably impossible now.

Crvena Zvezda
05-17-2011, 08:02 PM
It's no big deal for him defending all this points as he will be significantly the best on US hardcourt and indoor and his gap will be more or less 6000 points ahead at the end of the year.
Federer is too old and Nadal will mentally collapse as he has nothing else in his life except tennis and being DESTROYED like that will make him burnout in a kind of Coria syndrom.

Branimir
05-17-2011, 08:05 PM
That's why his results till the end of the year are still very significant regardless or what Nadal does. Either way I can't see him slipping to anything below 2 unless he goes back into that horrible form he was in the last few years, which is probably impossible now.

Do not forget that he dropped only to 4th place with that horrible form and still very far from 5th place.

hiperborejac
05-17-2011, 08:13 PM
He has 7 titles (almost 7000 points) to defend next year, so when it comes to defending all of that, how will he do it? He won't. So, how fast or hard will he fall? If he doesn't defend any of the titles, that's almost 3000 points lost, and that's if he reaches the final in all of them. Maybe he'll lose earlier in some of the tournaments? That means more points lost. Will he fall down the rankings? To no.3? No.4? Let's say he has the no.1 ranking then, will he just fall to no.2?


I think he'll defend a bit of the points (2500 let's say), but he'll fall down to no.3 in the rankings.
Did you make this thread only to say next year "See I was right, Djokovic is a shit player with puf balls, with no talent, Murray is 1000x better"? :o

Farenhajt
05-17-2011, 08:13 PM
What's the moderators' purpose in treating this infantile punk (namely the OP) as a sacred cow?

Sapeod
05-17-2011, 08:15 PM
Did you make this thread only to say next year "See I was right, Djokovic is a shit player with puf balls, with no talent, Murray is 1000x better"? :o
No, I really don't see how Djokovic can defend all of these points.
What's the moderators' purpose in treating this infantile punk (namely the OP) as a sacred cow?
What am I doing?

Nathaliia
05-17-2011, 08:28 PM
So far it looks like the rest of the tour is having problems, not Djokovic. It may as well repeat next year. We have seen players having few year lasting peaks.

bokehlicious
05-17-2011, 08:31 PM
Faker is not exactly known to be the best out there at defending his titles... Will get some popcorn and enjoy it next year... :o :)

Brick Top
05-17-2011, 08:31 PM
Dont worry he will 100% win Dubai next year :wavey:

nadejda
05-17-2011, 08:34 PM
next year is 2012 and the world will be over so don't worry about Djokovis's points :cheerleader:

Murray's points will dissapear as well :worship: as everything else on this planet!


but seriously? it is not even June and you already overreact about what will happen next year?

nobody knows what will happen by then :shrug:

Super Djoker
05-17-2011, 08:39 PM
Who cares! Next year is 7 months away! He has Loads of points in the bag. with the best of 18 rule he will have back up points anyway. it probebly will make little difference.

vn01
05-17-2011, 08:46 PM
he'll be no.1 from the end of roland garros 2011 to the beginning of the rome masters 2012, imo. then, he'll lose his no.1 ranking, but i am sure he'll re-claim it

Start da Game
05-17-2011, 08:46 PM
What's the moderators' purpose in treating this infantile punk (namely the OP) as a sacred cow?

just a couple of hours ago, i invested 10 mins and created a thoughtful thread about discussions inviting how djokovic should mentally handle the most important tournament of his life the french open.......

some mod recklessly deleted it and we have meaningless threads like this one and the other murray a-licking thread open by the same poster.......

they just hate nadal and djokovic.......nothing more to it.......

Sham Kay
05-17-2011, 08:48 PM
Points defending doesn't really register.. if he's the best player this time next year, he'll still be number 1 even if he doesn't defend all his titles.. I mean it's not like his close rivals have nothing to defend.

If his ranking drops it'll just mean others are playing better than him, but the actual best player at the time will always be number 1 by the end of the year, regardless of their performance the previous year..

So the question here is basically, will Djokovic be as dominant by this time next year? .. I'd go with 2nd most dominant, so he'll be 2nd, but that has nothing to do with his performance this year..

Lana87
05-17-2011, 08:51 PM
blah, blah...


http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Lanabgd/new/032b2c40.gif

finishingmove
05-17-2011, 09:21 PM
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Lanabgd/new/032b2c40.gif

:lol:

emotion
05-17-2011, 09:26 PM
He wont defend all but if he is, say, tied for rest of this year with Fed, Nadal in 3rd and tied for 1st first half of next year with Nadal, fed in 3rd (likely imo) he'll obviously still be #1

iriraz
05-17-2011, 09:35 PM
The way tennis goes right now u could be the GOAT and in 5-6 months u could struggle to get any win.Nothing is certain in this sport with how the confidence comes and goes + also injuries and illnesses are part of it.
Sure he can still win titles next year,tough to imagine he will win them all but there is a long way to go until then

MaxPower
05-17-2011, 09:51 PM
Hmmm. He should have tanked more matches so he didn't have to defend so much. Stupid Djokovic. Becoming world nr1 is retarded because then you can fall in the rankings. Earning all those useless trophies and money that he doesn't need. Pure greed.

He clearly should have tanked the entire year. Then in 2012 man what a year he could have! :smash:

xdrewitdajx
05-17-2011, 10:24 PM
Faker is not exactly known to be the best out there at defending his titles... Will get some popcorn and enjoy it next year... :o :)

he wasn't exactly known for his mental toughness.
he wasn't exactly known for his stamina.
he wasn't exactly known for winning two titles in a row.
he wasn't exactly known for beating Federer three times in a row.
he wasn't exactly known for beating Nadal in a final.
he wasn't exactly known for beating Nadal on clay.
he wasn't exactly known for going on 39 match winning streaks.

SerialKillerToBe
05-17-2011, 10:26 PM
No one can really tell you until the year is over.

bokehlicious
05-17-2011, 10:31 PM
he wasn't exactly known for his mental toughness.
he wasn't exactly known for his stamina.
he wasn't exactly known for winning two titles in a row.
he wasn't exactly known for beating Federer three times in a row.
he wasn't exactly known for beating Nadal in a final.
he wasn't exactly known for beating Nadal on clay.
he wasn't exactly known for going on 39 match winning streaks.

He won't lose a single tennis match for the rest of his career :hug:

batavlada
05-17-2011, 10:32 PM
Points? Who care about them except fanboys base. He won shitload of tournaments = shitload of $$$
As a senior he will enjoy all of this "points" for years, and all of that in well respectable neighborhood.

xdrewitdajx
05-17-2011, 10:38 PM
He won't lose a single tennis match for the rest of his career :hug:

brilliant response, excellent understanding of the point

dombrfc
05-17-2011, 10:48 PM
Funny how I knew the topic creator based just on the title.

Nole fan
05-17-2011, 10:51 PM
brilliant response, excellent understanding of the point

Sometimes even he can put 2 + 2 together... ;)

Time Violation
05-17-2011, 10:52 PM
Faker is not exactly known to be the best out there at defending his titles... Will get some popcorn and enjoy it next year... :o :)

He doesn't have to defend anything next year as far as I'm concerned... the streak will remain ;)

MayerFan
05-17-2011, 10:59 PM
Premature and presumptuous.

I agree wholeheartedly.

bokehlicious
05-17-2011, 11:03 PM
brilliant response, excellent understanding of the point

I'm afraid you didn't make any point :shrug: :hug:

tektonac
05-17-2011, 11:05 PM
Let's see first if Rafa defends 6000 pts from 3 GSs, Federer is in decline and Murray is chronically depressed. The rest of the field doesn't have much say into this. But you never know ....

SerialKillerToBe
05-17-2011, 11:16 PM
Let's see first if Rafa defends 6000 pts from 3 GSs, Federer is in decline and Murray is chronically depressed. The rest of the field doesn't have much say into this. But you never know ....

Yeah, better question is if Rafa can defend all of HIS ranking points.

If the rest of the players fall, Djokovic won't even have to defend his points next year.

DrJules
05-17-2011, 11:17 PM
He has 7 titles (almost 7000 points) to defend next year, so when it comes to defending all of that, how will he do it? He won't. So, how fast or hard will he fall? If he doesn't defend any of the titles, that's almost 3000 points lost, and that's if he reaches the final in all of them. Maybe he'll lose earlier in some of the tournaments? That means more points lost. Will he fall down the rankings? To no.3? No.4? Let's say he has the no.1 ranking then, will he just fall to no.2?


I think he'll defend a bit of the points (2500 let's say), but he'll fall down to no.3 in the rankings.

Nadal from 2005 to 2008 repeated his clay court domination collecting around 5,000 points a year in a 3 month period.

Still edge to Nadal returning to top in 2012, but will be very close.

DrJules
05-17-2011, 11:27 PM
just a couple of hours ago, i invested 10 mins and created a thoughtful thread about discussions inviting how djokovic should mentally handle the most important tournament of his life the french open.......

some mod recklessly deleted it and we have meaningless threads like this one and the other murray a-licking thread open by the same poster.......

they just hate nadal and djokovic.......nothing more to it.......

Did you ask the moderators why they deleted your thread.

romismak
05-17-2011, 11:31 PM
Probably he won´t repeat this streak and won´t have such good 1st half of 2012 season - that means he won´t defend all his points, but this is really not important for his No. 1 spot. How someone already posted before - i can see him as No.1 from RG until clay Masters in 2012 - but he can be No.1 even longer - 2-3years in a row who knows. Thanks to his ranking 1-2 he should make finals all the time, but the question is how good will be Rafa, Andy, Delpo or Fed- no other real player can i see there at the moment who can challenge top 5- not even Soderling. Next year in the same time that Nole has won so many tournaments also Rafa is defending pretty much - who knows - he can be injured and defend nothing or he can be again unbeatable on clay - won all clay tournaments and even be top 3 on HC and repeat IW, Miami even won AO, the same goes with Federer, Delpo, Murray - if someone will be in super form with long streak by themselves, they could overtake his No.1 spot - but those players need to have also very good 2nd half of this season. So it could be either Federer, Murray or Delpo as best in 2nd half of the season i don´t see Rafa to get more points in 2nd half season than all 3 of those guys. I think Nole could stay at No.1 pretty long, thanks to competition - top players are so good that they can steal points from each other. But first of all Nole is still not No.1 so wait for it.

MIMIC
05-17-2011, 11:34 PM
While we're at it, let's think about 2013, 2014 and 2015 :lol:

MayerFan
05-17-2011, 11:36 PM
Nadal from 2005 to 2008 repeated his clay court domination collecting around 5,000 points a year in a 3 month period.

Still edge to Nadal returning to top in 2012, but will be very close.

Well, but I must point out that Nadal faced practically no opposition on clay for that period.

lalaland
05-17-2011, 11:38 PM
He has 7 titles (almost 7000 points) to defend next year, so when it comes to defending all of that, how will he do it? He won't. So, how fast or hard will he fall? If he doesn't defend any of the titles, that's almost 3000 points lost, and that's if he reaches the final in all of them. Maybe he'll lose earlier in some of the tournaments? That means more points lost. Will he fall down the rankings? To no.3? No.4? Let's say he has the no.1 ranking then, will he just fall to no.2?


:lol:
so he should have done it the Murray-way, losing every tournament quick for a whole 2 months of Feb/Mar so he won't have pressure to have to defend the pts. Good strategy I guess, is that the reason why Andy did that every year? :p

I can imagine you turning green seeing Nole won everything for the past 4.5 months :D.

xdrewitdajx
05-18-2011, 12:07 AM
I'm afraid you didn't make any point :shrug: :hug:

just because it's implicit doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Dig deeper, calimero. Find the jewel of truth.

BigJohn
05-18-2011, 12:19 AM
just because it's implicit doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Dig deeper, calimero. Find the jewel of truth.

I believe the jewel of truth is that you are a fangirl.

Nobody missed that point.

xdrewitdajx
05-18-2011, 12:22 AM
oic k thx

selyoink
05-18-2011, 12:27 AM
He won't fall at all since it is hard to see anyone beating him for the next few years. The era of Djokovic is here.

LocoPorElTenis
05-18-2011, 12:54 AM
Congratulations on starting one of the most nonsensical threads ever :hatoff:

BigJohn
05-18-2011, 12:57 AM
oic k thx

Glad to be of help. :)

General Suburbia
05-18-2011, 01:01 AM
The only way this can affect Djokovic is if his form starts dropping significantly after RG. He won't defend every single one of his points but it really doesn't matter as long as he is playing well relative to the other contenders.

ApproachShot
05-18-2011, 01:15 AM
So long as he has the most points accumulated over the previous 52 weeks, he will keep the rank. Will he be able to sustain the 1 rank through to this time next year? Possibly, but most likely not. I think it will depend a lot upon Djokovic and Nadal's relative performances at the Slams. If Rafa can win 2 out of the next 4 majors, I would think he will retake the number 1 spot if he loses it.

I think there is misconception that it is easier to lose the ranking the following year if you have accumulated a lot of points in one part of the season. Strictly speaking that's not true as much depends on the points distribution of those who are chasing your rank.

n8
05-18-2011, 01:26 AM
People pay too much attention to points defending. All they show is the next set of points to come off the board. All that really matters is how well you do. If a player has had the best overall results over the past 52 weeks he will be #1 even if he had even better results over the past 53. It's not like you get a negative this year for doing better last year. The only real difference is the level of pressure, which hopefully professional athletes at the top of the game can handle.

Thank you.

So many posters go on and on about defending points. The more points you have to defend, the more you have in the first place so the bigger lead you have. It can be meaningful when calculating who will be number one or future rankings but people use it in the wrong way. When someone goes bad in an event, some people relieve themselves by saying that 'at least he won't have to defend many points next year'. That shows lack of understanding to me.

I've heard some posters say that Federer would be happy to lose in the quarter-finals of Roland Garros and Wimbledon this year because that will mean he has defended his points. :crazy:

TennisGrandSlam
05-18-2011, 02:23 AM
Do not expect the future now!

Surely, Djokovic must have chance to climb to number 1.

BULLZ1LLA
05-18-2011, 02:28 AM
With the way he is playing now, he could dominate the field for the next few years. It all depends on slams. 2 slams a year could keep him no1 for a long time. We'll see...

(Djokovic has won ONE slam this year. And the guy he beat in the Final, not a good Finals player. The guy he beat in the SF, over the hill)

Lana87
05-18-2011, 02:33 AM
Djokovic has won ONE slam this year.

How many slams there were this year?

Topspindoctor
05-18-2011, 02:42 AM
He won't. Muzza is the future I am afraid :sad:

BULLZ1LLA
05-18-2011, 03:00 AM
How many slams there were this year?

(Not enough to prove anything. I was more impressed with Djokovic's 2008 Australian Open, because Tsonga played a better final than Murray. The streak is great, but it's best of 3)

mark73
05-18-2011, 04:35 AM
(Not enough to prove anything. I was more impressed with Djokovic's 2008 Australian Open, because Tsonga played a better final than Murray. The streak is great, but it's best of 3)

(((((((((((((((why do you write everything in brackets?))))))))))))) :lol:

stewietennis
05-18-2011, 05:11 AM
I don't think Novak has to defend all the previous points accrued so far. He only has to do relatively well from now on so even if he loses in the SF next year in all those tournaments he won't notice a lot of drop off in ranking – maybe 4th at worst, if Rafa, Roger and Murray divide the finals and wins amongst themselves.

star
05-18-2011, 05:36 AM
By this kind of reasoning, it's a bad thing to win every tournament entered. :rolleyes:

Players have to seize the moment in tennis because it can all end in a flash. Sometimes I worry about Djokovic burning out at this pace sort of the way that JMac did after winning nearly every match in 1984. But, Djokovic is a different person and seems to have found a good balance in his emotions. So, I don't think that will happen.

BULLZ1LLA
05-18-2011, 05:54 AM
(((((((((((((((why do you write everything in brackets?))))))))))))) :lol:

(Because everybody likes it, it looks good and I'm good at it)

wee
05-18-2011, 05:58 AM
We will see what will he do end of this year. But these point will be too much him for defending probably.

stewietennis
05-18-2011, 06:30 AM
He may not need to defend them; a third round or SF appearance may be enough to maintain his ranking depending on how well he does the rest of the year.

spencercarlos
05-18-2011, 07:21 AM
The very best players don´t really care about defending points and rankings. They care more about winning tournaments.

Pirata.
05-18-2011, 09:00 PM
:superlol:

Nole will not be winning two slams a year for the next few years.

Nole fan gave me a GOOD rep for this :lol:

Lee
05-18-2011, 09:07 PM
Nole fan gave me a GOOD rep for this :lol:

Because you think he will win 4 slams a year for the next two years :angel:

Steelq
05-18-2011, 09:18 PM
(((((((((((((((why do you write everything in brackets?))))))))))))) :lol:

To be even more annoying if its possible.

Sapeod
05-18-2011, 09:20 PM
Murray is chronically depressed.
The last time I checked, he had reached a clay masters semi-final (2 in fact), was 2 points away from beating Djokovic, has had an all time best claycourt season and seemed very upbeat about RG. Chronically depressed? You wish.
:lol:
so he should have done it the Murray-way, losing every tournament quick for a whole 2 months of Feb/Mar so he won't have pressure to have to defend the pts. Good strategy I guess, is that the reason why Andy did that every year? :p
What on Earth are you talking about?

Murray can get lots of points from those 2 months next year, what's your point?
I can imagine you turning green seeing Nole won everything for the past 4.5 months :D.

(Because everybody likes it, it looks good and I'm good at it)
No they don't, no it doesn't, no you're not.

(See, I can do it too.)

Orka_n
05-18-2011, 09:37 PM
DJOKOVIC WILL FALL...

...wait :scratch:

JayR
05-18-2011, 09:43 PM
just a couple of hours ago, i invested 10 mins and created a thoughtful thread

Oxymoron alert.

chenx15
05-18-2011, 10:45 PM
Winning everything is never a good idea. Just look where it got Fed and Nadal (on clay) these past 5+ years.

If Fed and Nadal could go back and do it all over again, I'm sure they'd strive for mediocrity.

don't think so.

Matt01
05-18-2011, 11:10 PM
If he keeps winning like this, I fear he'll be out of the Top 100 soon. Too much to defend :sad:

madmax
05-18-2011, 11:17 PM
He doesn't need need to worry about defending those points since he's not losing a match for the upcoming 3 years:bowdown:
I mean who is gonna beat him seriously? Nadull and Fed are declining fast and nobody else is even good enough...

Sapeod
05-18-2011, 11:26 PM
He doesn't need need to worry about defending those points since he's not losing a match for the upcoming 3 years:bowdown:
I mean who is gonna beat him seriously? Nadull and Fed are declining fast and nobody else is even good enough...
Murray was 2 points away from beating him on clay, which is Murray's worst surface.

lalaland
05-18-2011, 11:30 PM
Murray was 2 points away from beating him on clay, which is Murray's worst surface.


Murray was demolished by Nole in Australian Open, which is Murray's best surface ;).

misty1
05-18-2011, 11:55 PM
there's no way he's defending everything next year..he might even defend nothing except the nole open

i predict he'll be down to around 4 next year..

stewietennis
05-19-2011, 12:05 AM
Getting to the QF, SF or F in tournaments till the end of the year probably still ensures Djokovic a high ranking even if he doesn't win the first five months next year.

asmazif
05-19-2011, 12:11 AM
Not a clue, basically impossible to predict.

Sapeod
05-19-2011, 12:29 AM
Murray was demolished by Nole in Australian Open, which is Murray's best surface ;).
There's a slight difference between these two matches :stupid:

1. Murray played hideously, Djokovic played well in that Australian Open final.
2. Murray played very well, Djokovic played very well in Rome.

So you're point (if you had one) doesn't really work here :stupid:

That means that if Murray had played well in Australia, it would have been a huge task for Djokovic to win there, considering hardcourt is better for Andy than clay (and he almost beat Djokovic on clay). Murray would've possibly won. Actually, he probably would've won.

Don't bring up matches where only one of the players anywhere near decent :stupid:

tektonac
05-19-2011, 12:56 AM
Murray was 2 points away from beating him on clay, which is Murray's worst surface.

that's rubbish, Novak was playing since December while Murray was resting. Nole should've finished him in 2 quick sets and he probably will next time they meet.

lalaland
05-19-2011, 12:56 AM
Are you following me around to bring up Murray whenever I post something? :stupid: Are you? I simply pointed out that Murray was close to beating Djokovic on clay, his worst surface, as the poster said that no one will come close to beating him. And then you show up with the random, irrelevent Murray comment? Why? My tip for you: don't bring Murray up in random threads at random times for whatever reason (seemingly to annoy me) :stupid: Got it? Completely unneeded and irrelevent to the topic. Keep your Murray-hating to Murray-hating threads or threads about Murray. Thank you :wavey:
Follow you around? :lol:
I answered to 2 of your posts and you think I'm following you around? Are you delusional or what?

I actually love Murray, and most of his fans, just don't like you.

And my point is: Murray lost to Nole in his best surface (hard), he lost to Nole in his worse surface (clay). Who's gonna beat Nole, unlikely that it will be Murray. Got it?

Sapeod
05-19-2011, 01:03 AM
that's rubbish, Novak was playing since December while Murray was resting. Nole should've finished him in 2 quick sets and he probably will next time they meet.
Oh yes, Djokovic was tired, wasn't he? Tired from beating Kubot 6-0 6-3, Soderling 6-3 6-0 and winning the first set against Murray 6-1. If you're tired after that, then you have pathetic fitness. Funnily enough, Djokovic had enough stamina to roar and jump around at the end of the third set. Interesting.
Follow you around? :lol:
I answered to 2 of your posts and you think I'm following you around? Are you delusional or what?

I actually love Murray, and most of his fans, just don't like you.

And my point is: Murray lost to Nole in his best surface (hard), he lost to Nole in his worse surface (clay). Who's gonna beat Nole, unlikely that it will be Murray. Got it?
They're called private messages for a reason. I didn't want to clog up my thread with us arguing, but you continue to do so :rolleyes:

Your point is wrong. Murray almost beat Djokovic on clay, that means he's a threat. You can't base your point on two matches, one were Andy played horribly and the other where he came two points away from victory. Djokovic is not unstoppable you know as you may think, and Murray can beat him. It was there for the taking, but he messed up. That won't happen again, he knows Djokovic and knows how to play him, which is why their match was tight. Djokovic was lucky to escape that.

Sunset of Age
05-19-2011, 01:07 AM
Top Class Clown Thread, once again! :yeah:

Djokovic is pilling up the points right now, and rightfully so. But... people are already asking how he's going to defend them all? In stead of just being happy that he ever managed to get this far? :confused:

The whole point of the ranking system is that it's based on who did the best of all over a 52-weeks period of time, and this principle explains exactly why it is so hard to get to the top position in the first place. Of course, it's equally difficult to manage to defend that position. Reason all the more to acknowledge those players who've managed to do so in the past, and wish the ones who are set for this very difficult task all the best to manage themselves.

lalaland
05-19-2011, 01:11 AM
They're called private messages for a reason. I didn't want to clog up my thread with us arguing, but you continue to do so :rolleyes:


Please stop harassing me in PM. I don't appreciate that. And if you have something to say, say it at the open.

Orka_n
05-19-2011, 01:11 AM
Don't bring up matches where only one of the players anywhere near decent :stupid:If we were only allowed to discuss matches where both players was at their best, there'd be no need for this forum. You understand that, don't you.

lalaland
05-19-2011, 01:16 AM
Your point is wrong. Murray almost beat Djokovic on clay, that means he's a threat. You can't base your point on two matches, one were Andy played horribly and the other where he came two points away from victory. Djokovic is not unstoppable you know as you may think, and Murray can beat him. It was there for the taking, but he messed up. That won't happen again, he knows Djokovic and knows how to play him, which is why their match was tight. Djokovic was lucky to escape that.

You ARE delusional :lol:. Carry on then.

You can't base your point on two matches

And you base your point on ONE match. :lol: Genius.

Alex999
05-19-2011, 01:18 AM
Danger Ehran,
Almost winning does NOT count... you either win or lose. As far as I know Novak WON that match. You are the King of making the most ridiculous excuses on this board. You should except that Djokovic is so far ahead of Murray. Stop being delusional, except the reality. You'll feel better. I like Murray but because of tards like you I hope he loses every match to Nole so that you can eat your heart out, that's how annoying you are :banghead:.

Sapeod
05-19-2011, 01:22 AM
Please stop harassing me in PM. I don't appreciate that. And if you have something to say, say it at the open.
I'm not "harassing" you. I don't want to continue cluttering my thread up, so I PMd you. That's what the PM system is for :wavey:

I'm not going to reply to you anymore, you seem to be a bit volatile. Argument over :wavey:

oranges
05-19-2011, 01:38 AM
From someone who utterly dislikes Djoko, let me say what a ridiculously pathetic thread :lol:

«Ivan»
05-19-2011, 11:52 AM
From someone who utterly dislikes Djoko,

n if he was from virgin islands?

Super Djoker
05-19-2011, 12:20 PM
He won't. Muzza is the future I am afraid :sad:

Ow please Murray is a joke, if it wernt for Soderling,s Capitulation he wouldent even be 4 wright now! What a response to losing a GS Final 3 defeats back to back! How many finals he got 2 this year? 1 soderling has been in 3 Nadal 4 Djokovic 7 ferrer about 3. He is too inconstant to be the Future! He lost to Bogomolov and Young , that sound like the future of tennis 2 u? Del Potro is the future of tennis not Murray!

Getta
05-19-2011, 12:23 PM
so you need to breathe, relax.

oranges
05-19-2011, 01:49 PM
n if he was from virgin islands?

He could be from Mars and look like Safin to boot, it wouldn't change a thing. A clown is a clown is a clown. You OTOH should really get some treatment, as well as an infraction for harassing posters with your ethnic obsession. Love what you chose to put the focus on when responding to me, for instance. The main point of the post was obviously secondary for your intents and purposes.

ssin
05-19-2011, 02:53 PM
He has 7 titles (almost 7000 points) to defend next year, so when it comes to defending all of that, how will he do it? He won't. So, how fast or hard will he fall? If he doesn't defend any of the titles, that's almost 3000 points lost, and that's if he reaches the final in all of them. Maybe he'll lose earlier in some of the tournaments? That means more points lost. Will he fall down the rankings? To no.3? No.4? Let's say he has the no.1 ranking then, will he just fall to no.2?


I think he'll defend a bit of the points (2500 let's say), but he'll fall down to no.3 in the rankings.

Novak will start to lose and eventually will fall out of top 10.

I hope I contributed to your good mood today :p

henke007
05-19-2011, 03:07 PM
Well he won't have to be afraid of Murray to pass him....

Sapeod
05-19-2011, 05:21 PM
Ow please Murray is a joke, if it wernt for Soderling,s Capitulation he wouldent even be 4 wright now! What a response to losing a GS Final 3 defeats back to back! How many finals he got 2 this year? 1, soderling has been in 3, Nadal 4, Djokovic 7, ferrer about 3. He is too inconstant to be the Future! He lost to Bogomolov and Young , that sound like the future of tennis 2 u? Del Potro is the future of tennis not Murray!
*weren't
*Soderling's
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*wouldn't
*right
*f
*to
*S
*F
*inconsistent
*to

:help:

1. He was in a slump after the Australian Open final, where he played awful and lost to someone he should've beaten.
2. Those losses weren't Murray anywhere near his best. He was terrible, you can't say he won't be at the top because of a slump. That's foolish.
3. Del Potro is injured again and keeps getting injured. That sounds like the future of tennis to you? Because it sure doesn't to me.

It seems to me that you hate Andy, or me. Either way, you seem very biased when it comes to Djokovic and very biased when it comes to Murray. Your post is nonsensical and wrong.

FiBeR
05-19-2011, 05:53 PM
face Murray in every tournament = easy win

Sapeod
05-19-2011, 05:59 PM
face Murray in every tournament = easy win
Sure, sure :yeah: Tell Nadal and Djokovic that and they will laugh at you, not to mention the 200+ players he's beaten in his career :lol:

Djokovic def. Murray 6-1 3-6 7-6. Easy?
Nadal def. Murray 6-4 2-6 6-1. Easy?

And those were on clay, imagine how hard it would be on grass or hardcourt :spit:

Sure, facing Murray = easy win :yeah: Hopefully, you aren't being serious :unsure: :help:

Anyway, what does Murray have to do with the thread? Stay on topic please :)

EliSter
05-19-2011, 06:04 PM
Sure, sure :yeah: Tell Nadal and Djokovic that and they will laugh at you, not to mention the 200+ players he's beaten in his career :lol:

Djokovic def. Murray 6-1 3-6 7-6. Easy?
Nadal def. Murray 6-4 2-6 6-1. Easy?

And those were on clay, imagine how hard it would be on grass or hardcourt :spit:

Sure, facing Murray = easy win :yeah: Hopefully, you aren't being serious :unsure: :help:

Anyway, what does Murray have to do with the thread? Stay on topic please :)

Cause u keep trolling with your idol in any thread :rolleyes:

FiBeR
05-19-2011, 07:04 PM
Murray = warmup/training
Murray in GS Finals = Bye

PS: thank you for the bad Rep, here goes yours :wavey:
:p "Del Potro would agree" = Last time I checked 1>0 :rolls: :p
(1-0 > 0-3 :awww:)

zerocool_
05-19-2011, 07:16 PM
Murray = warmup/training
Murray in GS Finals = Bye

PS: thank you for the bad Rep, here goes yours :wavey:
:p "Del Potro would agree" = Last time I checked 1>0 :rolls: :p
(1-0 > 0-3 :awww:)

You are so mean, poor kid :sad:
:haha:




Djokovic is same age as Murray and he have 2 GS, Del Potro is year younger then Murray and have 1 GS, that really has to hurt? :awww:

:haha:

Lana87
05-19-2011, 07:23 PM
Either way, you seem very biased when it comes to Djokovic and very biased when it comes to Murray. Your post is nonsensical and wrong.

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Lanabgd/new/776d15ac.gif http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Lanabgd/new/c7bc4f2a.gif

FiBeR
05-19-2011, 07:30 PM
Danger Ehren, MTF's ACC Djokovic :worship:

FiBeR
05-19-2011, 07:35 PM
^seriously, Danger Ehren, I gave you those answers cos the thread is pointless. How can you start thinking about how many points he will defend next year when the streak isnt even over? the season isnt even halfway? and he hasn't even reached the #1 spot yet.

So.. you are talking about losing the #1 when he hasn't even reached that spot yet.. and defending the points when he hasn't finished the year..

As far as I know, May 21st is the bibble's "Judgement Day".. and the "End of the World" would come on Oct 21st of this year.. What if the world ends??

Will Djokovic remain as the GOAT cos he had no chance to defend his points? Will he be the last #1 in the world?? how epic

Who knows! Don't think too ahead mate. What you are doing is trolling, so I gave you a bit of your own taste. It's not a smart move to start badrepping when getting owned.. u should know better, and u aint no kid no more.. when I was 16 I was owning older people on forums now and then :lol: if you are gonna sport about trolling, then don't be such a sore loser :hug:

Sapeod
05-19-2011, 07:37 PM
Murray = warmup/training
Murray in GS Finals = Bye

PS: thank you for the bad Rep, here goes yours :wavey:
:p "Del Potro would agree" = Last time I checked 1>0 :rolls: :p
(1-0 > 0-3 :awww:)
Murray 5, Del Potro 1. Yes, very easy wins for Del Potro :scratch:
Danger Ehren, MTF's ACC Djokovic :worship:
What? :rolleyes:

FiBeR
05-19-2011, 07:40 PM
rather have a grand slam than a possitive h2h :p read the post above

Sapeod
05-19-2011, 07:44 PM
I don't care if Del Potro has a slam, that wasn't the argument. You said getting Murray in tournaments = an easy win for his opponent (top players, I suppose?) Del Potro has only beaten him once (on clay) and has lost to him 5 times (4 times on hardcourt, once on clay). So, you are wrong. Also, Federer has lost against him 8 times, only beaten him 6. Nadal was outclassed in the 2nd set of their Monte Carlo match and has been beaten by him twice in slams and Djokovic was 2 points away from losing to him and lost 3 times in a row to him. Your post was false. Getting Murray does not equal an easy win.

zerocool_
05-19-2011, 07:51 PM
In GS final it is, easy win ;)

FiBeR
05-19-2011, 07:57 PM
In GS final it is, easy win ;)

This.

Sapeod
05-19-2011, 08:02 PM
There are flaws to that argument.

In his first two slam finals, he came up against JesusFed. Anyone is an easy win for JesusFed. Against Djokovic, he played terribly. Djokovic didn't play that well (he was ok). Andy was obviously terrible, which is a shame given how well he played in the first few rounds.

Two slam finals were because his opponent was just too good (JesusFed) and the third because he terrible. Pretty unfair to say he sucks in slam finals when there was nothing he could do about two of them. Also, it very unfair to call him a choker, because he wasn't in a winning position in any of them. How can you choke when you aren't winning? Idiotic to call him a choker in finals.

FiBeR
05-19-2011, 08:11 PM
you only see what your eyes want to see.
how can life be what you want it to be?


























You re frozen when your heart's not open. :p

CCBH
05-19-2011, 08:11 PM
Also, it very unfair to call him a choker, because he wasn't in a winning position in any of them. How can you choke when you aren't winning? Idiotic to call him a choker in finals.

The general impression is that he 'chokes' because of the magnitude of the occasion and therefore does not even attempt to give his best i.e. it is a long, painful choke rather than one on matchpoint or something.

Ibracadabra
05-20-2011, 04:21 AM
Simple. Unbeaten until 2015.

Nole Rules
05-20-2011, 10:06 AM
Guys ,please don't dislike/hate Andy only because of someone like Danger Ehren. Andy doesn't deserve this.:(

Super Djoker
05-20-2011, 11:36 PM
Murray was 2 points away from beating him on clay, which is Murray's worst surface.

Shuda wuda cuda blah blah blah! . Djokovic nearly twice as many matches under his belt this year , yet Murray still can,t beat him . He was tired yet Murray still couldn't beat him!

Clay Death
05-20-2011, 11:43 PM
little highlander has a point there.

5-4, 30-15. murray says he should have ended the streak.

taking nothing away from the great serbian slayer of course. he hung in there for his chances and got a win.

Super Djoker
05-21-2011, 12:15 AM
Danger Ehren ! I don,t hate Murray , however I don,t appreciate Djokovic,s run being Described as the biggest joke ever! Maybe your bitter about Murray getting hammered in Australia , I don,t know . But I would hardely call 7 titles back to back a joke! , I am sure he will go far in France and Maybe even further at Wimbledon, ! He looks morose half the time , a reason why ain't keen . Not good to see when you have probebly the best job in the world!

Clay Death
05-21-2011, 12:22 AM
nole`s run is for the history books.

something like this may never happen again in modern tennis.


all insectus TROLLificus species need to understand that for once and for all.