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Novak Djokovic secures ATP World Tour finals place

tskimny
05-16-2011, 07:31 PM
Novak Djokovic has become the first player to qualify for the 2011 ATP World Tour finals following his win in Sunday's Rome Masters. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/13419192.stm)

The Serb, who is unbeaten in 2011, beat Rafael Nadal 6-4 6-4 in the final after defeating Andy Murray in the last four.


He is only the second man after Nadal in 2009 to qualify for the finals before the French Open.


Ajde Nole!!!!

Tennislover23
05-16-2011, 07:37 PM
Damn! Nice, Nole!! :hearts:

Super Djoker
05-16-2011, 07:37 PM
Not surprised!

alpaca
05-16-2011, 07:38 PM
Very impressive! I'm really amazed at how well Nole is playing this year.

yesh222
05-16-2011, 07:43 PM
He qualified once he reached the semis in Rome. The ATP just didn't realize that or ignored it.

freeandlonely
05-16-2011, 07:45 PM
very impressive and well deserved

ZaZoo)
05-16-2011, 07:45 PM
Is this a record?? http://imgsrv2.tennisuniverse.com/mtf/images/smilies/hearts.gif

r2473
05-16-2011, 07:47 PM
I think by qualifying for WTF, there will be too much pressure on him.

He should have tanked all his matches this year starting with Rome quarters.

Certinfy
05-16-2011, 07:48 PM
Oh come on, he qualified after winning the AO with the win a GS and finish top 20 rule... :shrug:

yesh222
05-16-2011, 08:03 PM
There is no finish top 20 rule. It's straight-up top 8 now.

Arkulari
05-16-2011, 08:04 PM
Well deserved.

Sunset of Age
05-16-2011, 08:13 PM
Congrats, but .... like Certinfy already said.

vn01
05-16-2011, 08:55 PM
:yeah: congrats, nole!

emotion
05-16-2011, 10:27 PM
There is no finish top 20 rule. It's straight-up top 8 now.

really? when?

shuhrat
05-16-2011, 10:41 PM
From ATP 2011 Rule Book : B.Entries (page.37)

1) Selection List. The selection list for the event shall be:

a) The top seven players in the South African Airways ATP Rankings as of the Monday after the last ATP World Tour tournament of the calendar year; followed by
b) Up to two Grand Slam winners of that year, in order of their positions, positioned between eight and twenty in the South African Airways ATP Rankings as of that Monday; followed by
c) Players positioned eight and below in the South African Airways ATP Rankings as of that Monday.

2) Direct Acceptances. The top eight players in the selection list shall qualify for the event as direct acceptances. Participation is mandatory, and all qualified players shal be entered. All direct acceptances must be at the tournament site to attend the official pre-tournament media conference and must be available for play through the completion of the round robin competition and the knock-out competition if eligible.

Apemant
05-17-2011, 08:16 AM
He qualified once he reached the semis in Rome. The ATP just didn't realize that or ignored it.

I'm curious as to how exactly do they work out the math? It sounds complicated... making sure that there can't be 8 players with more points than him (if he doesn't win a single match from then on), in all possible scenarios?

dombrfc
05-17-2011, 08:50 AM
No way! I really thought he wouldnt make it!

yesh222
05-17-2011, 03:22 PM
I'm curious as to how exactly do they work out the math? It sounds complicated... making sure that there can't be 8 players with more points than him (if he doesn't win a single match from then on), in all possible scenarios?

Exactly. You assume he won't even play another match and calculate the maximum number of points that the 8 guys immediately behind him can get. Or, you have a techy friend set up a computer program to do that for you. That's the way I went. But you basically say their are X points left in the season (you assume all 8 win at least two 250s) and figure out how many points can be distributed between them from the remaining Slams, Masters, and 500s and see how many can catch him. As soon as that number is below 8, he's in. Right now the cutoff is around 6300, so Rafa would qualify also if he wins Roland Garros.

Apemant
05-18-2011, 02:10 PM
Exactly. You assume he won't even play another match and calculate the maximum number of points that the 8 guys immediately behind him can get. Or, you have a techy friend set up a computer program to do that for you. That's the way I went. But you basically say their are X points left in the season (you assume all 8 win at least two 250s) and figure out how many points can be distributed between them from the remaining Slams, Masters, and 500s and see how many can catch him. As soon as that number is below 8, he's in. Right now the cutoff is around 6300, so Rafa would qualify also if he wins Roland Garros.

Well, I could be that techy friend LOL, I'm just thinking... there could be some interesting variations, i.e. whether the 7th guy would get 360 points from a certain masters SF, or you would leave that SF to the 8th guy, and the 7th would get 300 from a certain atp500 final because those 300 are already enough to get 'ahead' of Djokovic (assuming he wouldn't win a single match from then on), but those 300 aren't enough for the 8th guy, etc.

Like I said, it doesn't sound easy, perhaps there is a certain programming technique that would make it easier, maybe dynamic programming or something. At the first glance, though, seems kinda tricky - unless you would go with brute force :devil: and just try all possible combinations for guys ranked #2-#9 in the 'race' (behind Djokovic, who is obviously #1 in the 'race' list).