World Group Final: USA at Spain: December 3-5, 2004

Hey I take few pics with my digi-cam, they don't are very good, but at least can give you an idea ;)
thanks 4 ur help...

I wish I were there too... to cheer on ESPANA!!!

OMG, tiebreak time again. Rafa needs something special now! Vamos!!!

1x1

1-1

Vamos Rafa :)

nadal looks very tired... and it´s only the 1st set

1-1

Nadal serving

2-1:D

nice net :D :)

Vamos Nadal

hmm... roddick had bad luck on this shot..thanks net cord!

3-1 and a DF and crowd cheers again :yeah:

DF
3x1 nadal!

:bounce: Rafa!!!:bounce:

*4-1 :D :) a FH CC pass :banana:

damn!!
The audience think that is "futeball game". They scream a lot.

4-1 Nadal

Nadal is playing like a total pro! What a great match! :banana:

Argh Andy fight back :(

omg.......can imagine the screams over there rite now.....;)

4x2 españa

*4-2
focus Fetus

big pt now

nice shot andy! in the middle of the net!
5x2 nadal

*5-2 :D

Duck nets FH

5-2 Nadal

Come on, Rafa! Take your time... hold!!!! Make it 5-2!!!! VAMOS!

nadal kept his balls very short....go deep!!!!
roddick dominated this point

got a feeling that Nadal needs one more mini break

*5-4 :scared:
come on Fetus

nastasc, de onde vc eh?

5-4.. Come on :lol:

Funny how I am rooting for Andy here :)

Rafa, crucial! breathe, breathe!!!

:bounce: Rafa :bounce:

Vamos!!! :banana:

VAMOS RODDICK!!!!

framed FH
5x5

5/5

Screw you, Rafa! Now make it 6-5!!

5-6*

what a cockup :fiery:

sp Roddick :eek:

5-6

6-5 Rod

CAME ON ROD!!

Rafa... ay!!!!!

who's serving now?

oh no Rafaelito, hoe can u drop 4 pts consec...:(

could there be yet another twist to this tie breaker?

6-6

6-6 :D

Roddick blows

roddick´s volleys are like siht

yeah Nadal .....baby break him now!!!!

Rafa... now break him to go up 76!!! then serve it out! VAMOS!

pheeew, 6-6. What a thriller this set is! Damn I hate clay tennis.... :rolleyes:

7-6 roddick
another SP

another tame/weak/feeble error

6-7 :o

sp Roddick

Finish it now Andy :D

Pandy dares to do this in front of the Spanish crowd!

15:55 Gamesmanship by Roddick, fiddling with his strings, delaying Nadal's serve until the crowd starts to whistle! An unfocused Nadal then hits into the net early on - 5-5!

win one more point Andy

fock!
roddick 8-6

COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and another weak pathetic FH

6-8 :rolleyes:

Rafa choked away :mad:

:woohoo: :D

YESSSS

SET US!!!!

way to choke nadal fucking idiot.
spain coach better let the mosquito play on sunday
or that spain crowd will want the coach's head on a stick.

Rafa :sad:

But... very close!

Vamos! :bounce:

Rafa :smash:

Rafa, how could you?!!!!

And he's already tired?

And he has to play dbles tomorrow and maybe reverse sgles on Sun? yeah, right...

:sad: Rafael!!

You better get yourself together from now on, and basically, dont wait to be broken so that you break too :rolleyes:

VAMOS!!!!
Im leaving with the hope that Rafael will still win this!!!!!!

:rolleyes: at the comments about Nadal. You'd think he was playing number 200 in the world the way some of you are talking.

As long as he gives 100% I don't care if he loses :yeah:

I have to go do my study now, and that I do care about :p

way to choke nadal fucking idiot.
spain coach better let the mosquito play on sunday
or that spain crowd will want the coach's head on a stick.

The game is very good Dylan.
Nadal is playing very well, a excelent game to watch ;)

spain coach is praying nadal wins this match.
otherwise, everyone in spain is going to be bitching juan carlos was not allowed to play today

well done Andy!!! :D :clap2: :D

RODDICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK ...come on 2 more sets boy......

This game is far from over. But wow a first set that took 1h11. :eek:
Could be a very long ride! :)

yeh to roddick!!!!!!!

lets say nadal loses this match
and spain loses the doubles match....

does anyone think spain coach would be stupid enough to let nadal play singles on sunday?

Nadal is tired as hell

Roddick's pretty fit....I saw him in 4 hour thriller last yr......He'll pull this out for US today.....

Can we play Tag-Tennis ???

bring Sushi for 2nd set

Nadal needs to stay focus

30-15 Nadal

lets say nadal loses this match
and spain loses the doubles match....

does anyone think spain coach would be stupid enough to let nadal play singles on sunday?
They won't need him Sunday. They could play Ferrero or Robredo against Fish.

Game Nadal

GOOOO ANDY!!!!! YOU CAN WIN THIS MATCH!!!! WE BELIEVE!!!!! :worship:

They won't need him Sunday. They could play Ferrero or Robredo against Fish.

They probably could bring someone in from their Junior Fed Cup team to play Mardy on clay.

1-0 Rafa ... Vamos :banana:

They won't need him Sunday. They could play Ferrero or Robredo against Fish.
even the reserve spanish players would destroy Fish on clay

I'm already satisfied with this 1st set Andy got because not many people expected him to win a set from Nadal on clay in Spain (Roddick's game sucks on clay, you know), but now I wouldn't mind if he won the match ;) :p

Nadal's average first serve speed is 164 km/h.. That is very low :eek:

They won't need Rafa on Sun cos he will beat Pandy and the Ass Twins will win the dbles?

In fact, the average speed of Roddick's second serve (170) is higher than that :scared:

:rolleyes: at the comments about Nadal. You'd think he was playing number 200 in the world the way some of you are talking.

As long as he gives 100% I don't care if he loses :yeah: Exactly! :yeah: Let's not forget he's only 18!

164 km/h? how fast is that in MPH?

Hold your serve Andy ;)

everyone will win against mardy on clay, doesn't matter who it will be

USA should bring spadea

I'm already satisfied with this 1st set Andy got because not many people expected him to win a set from Nadal on clay in Spain (Roddick's game sucks on clay, you know), but now I wouldn't mind if he won the match ;) :p
Apparently you didn't read the same thread as me. From what I saw, a lot of people thought that Nadal was going to get totally embarassed out there.

164 km/h? how fast is that in MPH?

102 MPH

everyone will win against mardy on clay, doesn't matter who it will be

USA should bring spadea

They should :yeah: Not that he would win, but he'd do better than Fish.

100 MPH = 160 KMH

WOW! that's pretty weak.......Even Sharapova serves are faster than that....

Rafa just needs to focus and harness that ENTHUSIASM!

VAMOS!

this davis cup live scoring thing is awesome

Quick! Let's make bets : if Andy wins, how many ridiculous "Nadal is overrated" threads and posts will we see?

I say two threads!

Fish probably is the worst top100 player on clay you could imagine

1-1 :D

1-1

WOW! that's pretty weak.......Even Sharapova serves are faster than that....
It is pretty surprising that such a big guy can't generate more pace. Meh, give him a few year, he'll make it a weapon ;)

Fish probably is the worst top100 player on clay you could imagine
Only if Ginepri doesn't count :D

Rebecca, that's true...he's only 18.....he's playing pretty dang good at his age.........

everyone will win against mardy on clay, doesn't matter who it will be

USA should bring spadea


They aren't allowed to. It's Fish or one of the Bryans.

Quick! Let's make bets : if Andy wins, how many ridiculous "Nadal is overrated" threads and posts will we see?

I say two threads!

If you bet money on it, I will be willing to post an extra one :devil:

Rafa did say he needs to improve his serve... I say he needs a proper coach. And of course he just doesn't have much experience out there. It w help if he didn't get injured so much so he can actually play more!

VAMOS!

Quick! Let's make bets : if Andy wins, how many ridiculous "Nadal is overrated" threads and posts will we see?

I say two threads!

a bit dissappointed with Nadal choking on that tie break.....however on the whole he has played well......and this match is far from over......Roddick appears to have trouble holding services.....his forte

Quick! Let's make bets : if Andy wins, how many ridiculous "Nadal is overrated" threads and posts will we see?

I say two threads!


There will be plenty of people pissed that JCF was not allowed to play today.
I thought it was a bad decision at the time. I just hope the Spain coach
is not stupid enough to make the same mistake on sunday.

Apparently you didn't read the same thread as me. From what I saw, a lot of people thought that Nadal was going to get totally embarassed out there.
well, I know what many people like to say about Roddick's game on clay and taking a set from Nadal isn't the worst performance today and many expected that Roddick will go down without having a chance and that he is intimidated by the Spanish crowd.

Nadal should get embarassed by a player who is said that he can't play on clay? wow, interesting view... ;) but if you share it with others, then it's okay...

They aren't allowed to. It's Fish or one of the Bryans.

:mad: That's true :(

If you bet money on it, I will be willing to post an extra one :devil:
:lol:

Aceman - I'm just kidding around over people giving Nadal such a hard time. Just yesterday I was reading that he didn't have a hope in Hell, now people are whining that he's losing. Uh? I guess it might not be the same people doing it, but I didn't sleep very much so everybody looks the same today ;)

2-1

Damn Rod!! Great BALL, in NET :fiery:

OK, so if Spadea can't play, neither can Ferrero, right??

well, I know what many people like to say about Roddick's game on clay and taking a set from Nadal isn't the worst performance today and many expected that Roddick will go down without having a chance and that he is intimidated by the Spanish crowd.

Nadal should get embarassed by a player who is said that he can't play on clay? wow, interesting view... ;) but if you share it with others, then it's okay...
Did you READ the thread? Because I did. And your comments make absolutely no sense based on that thread. People were writing Roddick off until the moment it was announced that he would play a younger less experienced player. Honestly, go! Look at the thread!

I'm not criticizing anybody for their prematch views here, I'm just telling it as I read it. I thought it would be a toss up, so this isn't a surprise to me.

No. Ferrero can play because he is one of the four players named to the final team.

juan carlos said he is 100 percent physically.

OK, so if Spadea can't play, neither can Ferrero, right??
Spadea was NOT named for the 4 man t eam. Ferrero was.

Spadea playing would be like Spain playing Lopez all of a sudden. Can't play people who aren't on the 4 man team :p

There will be plenty of people pissed that JCF was not allowed to play today.
I thought it was a bad decision at the time. I just hope the Spain coach
is not stupid enough to make the same mistake on sunday.

Ferrero is supposed to be 80% fit, hence based on this logic the coach must have deduced that when both players are fully fit, Nadal is at least 80% or greater the talent of Ferrero

Hey guys, the audience is: 27.200 peoples :eek:

I wondered about that... so Spadea wasn't named to the final team? He's only a reserve? So why did he pose w the team in the photos? Yuk...

Ferrero is supposed to be 80% fit, hence based on this logic the coach must have deduced that when both players are fully fit, Nadal is at least 80% or greater the talent of Ferrero

where did you get this 80 percent?
juan carlos in an interview said he was 100 percent

Argh eliminate that break point Andy :(

Nobody here knows if Ferrero would have done well against Roddick either, so it's getting sort of tiresome hearing "should have played Ferrero". I like Ferrero too, but the Spanish captains obviously made this decision for a reason. If it doesn't work it doesn't work, but it's not like they didn't put a LOT of thought into it before putting Rafa in.

bp Go Nadal!

Did you READ the thread? Because I did. And your comments make absolutely no sense based on that thread. People were writing Roddick off until the moment it was announced that he would play a younger less experienced player. Honestly, go! Look at the thread!

I'm not criticizing anybody for their prematch views here, I'm just telling it as I read it. I thought it would be a toss up, so this isn't a surprise to me.
you mean THIS thread? yes, I have read it... but I don't base my comments on what other people said in this thread, that Roddick fans want Roddick to win and Nadal fans cheer on Nadal should be clear

Rafa breaks 3-1 :D

OK, so if Spadea can't play, neither can Ferrero, right??

Ferrero can play. The selected team was Ferrero, Moya, Nadal and Robredo. So they can replace Nadal with Ferrero or Robredo on Sunday if they wish.

great passing shot
3-1

Nadal breaks!

I wondered about that... so Spadea wasn't named to the final team? He's only a reserve? So why did he pose w the team in the photos? Yuk...
So Pat could please people who were pissed at him for almost bringing GINEPRI over Vince? :p

Yes, Rafa!! Now take advantage this time!! 3-1!

getting back to the match

Nadal broke *3-1

On a sidenote: Rafa broke and leads 3-1! ;)

where did you get this 80 percent?
juan carlos in an interview said he was 100 percent

think it was on the net.......sorry if i got my facts wrong......however if there is any logic in the world......wouldn't a 100% Ferrero be fielded against USA?

i want to hear spadea rap some more

I see the order is restored in the 2nd set and the talented Spanish claycourter leads again with a break against the poor American player who sucks on clay ;)

Damnit.

Well done Rafa :woohoo:

you mean THIS thread? yes, I have read it... but I don't base my comments on what other people said in this thread, that Roddick fans want Roddick to win and Nadal fans cheer on Nadal should be clear
Nooo... the thread in GM. About the draw and Nadal being selected. There are a few people in there who thought Roddick would get drubbed, but they are in the minority. A number of otherwise "neutral" posters thought it was the stupidest decision by the Spaniards ever.

I don't care if you want to rub in that people wrote Andy off, but do NOT act as if those people were in the majority without actually reading the majority comments about THIS particular match first.

Well... do whatever you want, but you sound ridiculous.

Fetus magic working but for how long ???
40-0 :D

think it was on the net.......sorry if i got my facts wrong......however if there is any logic in the world......wouldn't a 100% Ferrero be fielded against USA?

that is what i thought. juan carlos did say he was 100 percent.
i hope nadal wins today.

i think JCF might still get to play on sunday.
if nadal wins this match and then loses saturday in doubles, he will be very tired.

i think JCF should play sunday regardless if spain is up 2-1 or down 1-2

4-1

4-1 NADAL

It's all so political... and emotional... Ginepri... perish the thought... now that w have been desperation.

...meanwhile Rafa 4-1!!!

Uh, forget it Neely. I don't know why I bothered explaining things to you when all you want to do is make assumptions.

You're on ignore for now :)

Enjoy the tie.

Is Ginepri still playing tennis?

I lied. Since you're a mod, I can't officially ignore you :angel:

4-1 :woohoo:

Vamos Rafa! :bounce:

Is Ginepri still playing tennis?
He's making a futile effort, yes ;)

Ginepri's still playing, unfortunately...

Rafa, just break him again... and serve it out! Conserve your energy!

Nooo... the thread in GM. About the draw and Nadal being selected. There are a few people in there who thought Roddick would get drubbed, but they are in the minority. A number of otherwise "neutral" posters thought it was the stupidest decision by the Spaniards ever.

ah you mean this thread, okay... I didn't read it completely, but I was aware of the fact that people took a step backwards because they knew that Nadal isn't as solid as the French Open Champions Ferrero and Moya, but basically it's Nadal in the position of the favourite here because Roddick is a rather bad player on clay

ah you mean this thread, okay... I didn't read it completely, but I was aware of the fact that people took a step backwards because they knew that Nadal isn't as solid as the French Open Champions Ferrero and Moya, but basically it's Nadal in the position of the favourite here because Roddick is a rather bad player on clay
*since I can't ignore you*

Edit... nevermind.

[QUOTE=dylan24]that is what i thought. juan carlos did say he was 100 percent.
i hope nadal wins today.

i think JCF might still get to play on sunday.
if nadal wins this match and then loses saturday in doubles, he will be very tired.

i think JCF should play sunday regardless if spain is up 2-1 or down 1-2[/QUOTE

come to think about it this could be part of a strategy by the Spanish team.....should Nadal lose today and tomorrow.......a fresh Ferrero would be a definite point against Fish.....and this will lead on to Moya to wrap up the proceedings

ah you mean this thread, okay... I didn't read it completely, but I was aware of the fact that people took a step backwards because they knew that Nadal isn't as solid as the French Open Champions Ferrero and Moya, but basically it's Nadal in the position of the favourite here because Roddick is a rather bad player on clay
Gah. I think that I misread you when I first replied to this two seconds ago.

Sorry... I'm trying not to study :angel:

Anyways, now you know. People did take a step back. At least, most did.

will moya play the first or the second single on sunday?

5-2

Damn ROD!!!

truly pathetic

Rafa 5-2!! Break Pandy, por favor! Win this set!

the first set games or ended up in breaks and deuces....however the second set games appear to go much smoother for the server.......anyone watching live care to elaborate....thanks!

will moya play the first or the second single on sunday? First

5-2!!! Go Rafa! :banana:

Moya plays first...

I know Nadal is a good guy and that he shows respect of his opponent when saying Roddick has a good chance. How arrogant would it sound if he said "I will beat him in straight sets in 90 minutes"?

Don't worry... Nadal will most likely still win, no need for understatements ;)

will moya play the first or the second single on sunday?

The first one. #1s always play the fourth rubber (unless substituted of course).

16:28 Nadal is using the drop shot effectively! Roddick can't read it

Rafa!! one more point! break him!!!

6-2 :banana: :D

really an exciting match! :bounce:
Nadal plays very aggressive. amazing FH! :cool:
poor Andy... wish he could be back next set... :sad:

VAMOS RAFA :banana:

Well done, Nadal! Keep it going in the 3rd!

Nadal won...broke of 15-40 :o

16:28 Nadal is using the drop shot effectively! Roddick can't read it

Rafa!! one more point! break him!!!


Rogi ....how does the first set compare to the second?

okay, now Nadal is doing what he was supposed to do from the beginning... I expect Roddick will go down now in the next sets

:woohoo: Great job Rafa! :banana:

yay Rafael :banana: keep fighting!

How is Nadal, physically? People were saying that he looked tired in the first set. Is that still a concern?

Don't know, I'm not watching this.

Pandy served slightly better in the 2nd yet got broken twice. He is probably just tired fr that TB in the 1st; this often happens. Rafa obviously decided to get his act together after losing that long 1st set -- so good for him! And he needs to conserve his energy if he wants to win this match.

VAMOS, RAF!

the audience are too noisy... awesome! lol

How is Nadal, physically? People were saying that he looked tired in the first set. Is that still a concern?

when you lose a tie-breaker, there is a tendency it to show in your body language

the commentators saying that Duck isnt moving as well as he was in 1st
mental tiredness

40-30 Rafa :)

BBC has scores with detail as well
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4065965.stm

AceMann, check out Eurosport for live commentary:

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s57/e6234/live_lng0_spo57_evt6234.shtml

it's only written, not audio

he can't even get a breakpoint

How is Nadal, physically? People were saying that he looked tired in the first set. Is that still a concern?

I dont think so. Nadal looked very excited in the 2nd set. now the same. ;)

bp roddick

now or never you plonker

16:36 So far Nadal has won 22 points from the baseline while Roddick only won 9! The numbers speak for themselves

16:34 Roddick couldn't challenge Nadal from the baseline while his serve hasn't been effective at all on the clay

It helps that Pandy's not serving particularly well.

he can't even get a breakpoint
Are you sure about that? :p

bp saved PHEW
BH pass way out :lol:

Vamos Rafa :banana: He is playing very well :)

An Ace from Fetus :bolt:

i knew he would blow :rolleyes:

AceMann, check out Eurosport for live commentary:

http://www.eurosport.com/home/pages/v4/l0/s57/e6234/live_lng0_spo57_evt6234.shtml

it's only written, not audio

thanks

are you Brits watching this on Sky?

one good thing about Rafa, he never gets down, even when he's losing

16:41 Nadal saves a break point and pumps his fist moving ahead in this third set

are you Brits watching this on Sky?

Sky Sports :worship:

COME ON RAFA BREAK HIM :banana:

pffffffff Duck saves his wings ( i mean BP)
ACE :o
then another :fiery:

Come on Rafa!!!!!

I hope Roddick at least gets a few more games in the remaining sets... :rolleyes:
the 1st set was the best he could do I guess

never realised how slow a serve Nadal has....

Nadal must not get too excited just like he did in the first set tie-breaker....at the moment this game is for him to lose

awesome game from Rafa
2-1 :D

never realised how slow a serve Nadal has....

conservation of energy.

Andy always plays well in TB. ;)
but today, he is not very excited even if he won the 1st set. :shrug:

Time to break, Rafael!!

well, you know, Pandy has about the best TB record right now.

w be nice for Rafa to break again...

When was the last time in the match Roddick didnt have to fight on his serve?

Pandy's already served 7 aces in this set and it's barely started...

Pandy's already served 7 aces in this set and it's barely started...

only two aces

rafa is doing a god job tonight

mind you, he's also had 6 dfs... Rafa 3! blahhh

long rally now??

Pandy's already served 7 aces in this set and it's barely started...

7 for the match

well, you know, Pandy has about the best TB record right now.

w be nice for Rafa to break again...

Roger has best one :angel:
and Roger stuffs Pandy in TB's too :devil:

damn scoreboard hanged....or really long rally

sorry, I thought I had clicked on 3rd set stats...

Rogi has the best now? COOL!

what a long game... vamos, Rafa, bola de break!!

BP Rafa :D

nearly knocked Duck out with his pass
crowd really going wild now :D

Rafa is really getting this crowd going crazy!

Break now Rafael!

DEUCEEEEEEEEE

you could really expect a little bit more with a serve like that, truly pathetic

damn scoreboard hanged....or really long rally

there was a long argument out there
Arrese had one with ref

i missed how it came about as i was on a bathroom break :o

another bp...

what's happening?

16:55 The players can't play

16:55 Nadal's point has been canceled and the public is furious

Arrese... keep calm...

Come on Andy get your act together now

wow, Roddicks served 19/22 first serves this set and is still barely holding serve

2-2

Come on Rafa!

finally, aces come right time, Andy! :p

damn two consequetive aces......

wow, Roddicks served 19/22 first serves this set and is still barely holding serve

welcome on clay

Come on Rafa!

does andy even try to return the ball or is he drinking coffee?

welcome on clay

Yeah, someone really needs to put in a clay court near where I live :)

30-15 RAFA

30-30

BP RODDICK!!

bp roddick

dare you choking now

come on RAFA....DF here...DF!!!

DAMN you RODD!

he blows as always

another bp saved! Come on Rafa!

game pt RAFA

come on RAFA....DF here...DF!!!


very wishful thinking

3-2 RAFA...roddick, you suck buddy

I don't know why that Andy looks not excited at all even he did such an amazing passing shot! :shrug:

bp roddick

dare you choking now
I rather have the feeling that Roddick doesn't have much to choke... we all know which player wins the points if Nadal's game on clay is present

does andy even try to return the ball or is he drinking coffee? :lol:


3-2 :woohoo:

This reminds me of RODDICK losing to HRBATY on clay......He barely won the 1st set and lost 3 consecutive sets to lose that match

come on RODD.....rafa's serving below 95 mph, you should just smash the hell outta those balls......

I don't know why that Andy looks not excited at all even he did such an amazing passing shot! :shrug:

he is a very experience player.....and he does not want to work up the already frenZiED CROWD