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jazz_girl
09-27-2004, 03:05 PM
Hi guys!
I was reading Olé and they mentioned that the possible candidates to face Argentina in the first round are:
Romania, Chile, Czech Republic, Sweden or Belarus (in Argentina).
Away: Croatia, Slovaquia
Tie: Austria and Holland
I'm really hoping we get to play Belarus in the first round ;)

jazz_girl
09-27-2004, 03:17 PM
de la Peña:
"Sincerely, if there's something I wouldn't like is to play Argentina in the first match. Chile is a very competitive group, the best on clay and we would go there to win"
"And to leave Argentina there, in the first round, and fighting to stay there, I wouldn't like. Besides, I don't think they can count on (Guillermo) Coria, who would be coming back from injury, and I don't know if (David) Nalbandian would be in conditions to play. I think we would win them there".
"Sinceramente, si hay algo que no me gustaría es jugar en Argentina el primer partido. Chile es un equipo muy competitivo, de los mejores del mundo sobre arcilla y me parece que les iríamos a ganar".

"Y dejarla ahí a Argentina, en la primera ronda y peleando por no bajar, no me gustaría. Además, no creo que puedan contar con (Guillermo) Coria, quien vendría volviendo de su lesión, y no sé si (David) Nalbandian estaría también en condiciones. Yo creo que allá les ganamos".

bovenbuuf
09-27-2004, 03:43 PM
ok wel thanks jazz.. it would be nice to see a good match, think they have good changes to a lot of teams, personaly wouldn't see Chili or Sweden in the first round, a little bit hard to start with

and yes Holland not in the first round is excelent.. than we still have a change to reach the second round and stay in the World group ;)

bovenbuuf
09-27-2004, 03:47 PM
de la Peña:
"Sincerely, if there's something I wouldn't like is to play Argentina in the first match. Chile is a very competitive group, the best on clay and we would go there to win"

"And to leave Argentina there, in the first round, and fighting to stay there, I wouldn't like. Besides, I don't think they can count on (Guillermo) Coria, who would be coming back from injury, and I don't know if (David) Nalbandian would be in conditions to play. I think we would win them there".


well in this case I wouldn't have Chile in the first round.... they are a great team, certainly on clay.. a point in favour of Argentina is that it will be in Argentina..
but wel he is not really nice with saying Argentina has just 2 players, Coria and Nalbandian.. think its not fair to leave out Gaudio who won RG..
but well it will be tricky..

jazz_girl
09-27-2004, 03:51 PM
I know!
I mean, the match would be played in Argentina and he's already saying that we won't count on David and Guillermo...I don't think it's nice. Anyway, let's hope we don't face in the first round, or in any round to avoid problems...I'm sure it won't be nice

bovenbuuf
09-27-2004, 04:07 PM
No it will be hard to start with.... when will be the draw for next year ?

sigmagirl91
09-27-2004, 04:10 PM
They will probably wait until the week of the DC finals to announce that.

jazz_girl
09-27-2004, 04:11 PM
I think I read a few months ago that it will be out in October, but I'm not 100% sure about it...

bovenbuuf
09-27-2004, 04:15 PM
well guess its a nice time October.. the final will be in December so that is to late to do it after that, and besides the final doesn't have anything to do with the new draw..think US will be on top and Spain on the bottum of the draw...

and they also did this weekend the play offs anyway..

bovenbuuf
09-27-2004, 04:16 PM
2005 Davis Cup Draw
The draw for the 2005 Davis Cup by BNP Paribas will take place at the BNP Paribas offices in Madrid at 1200 hours local time (1000 hours GMT) on Thursday 30 September. Full details will appear on daviscup.com.

sigmagirl91
09-27-2004, 04:24 PM
Ok, so there you have it. Check back on Thurs.

sigmagirl91
09-27-2004, 04:25 PM
I think that Spain will get the top seed, seeing that they have home-court advantage and are the defending finalists in the DC.

*Ljubica*
09-27-2004, 05:11 PM
I am personally dreading a 1st round against Chile :eek: but I just keep on getting this feeling that this is what is going to happen :devil: Yes, the draw is on Thursday so we'll have to wait til then - and I must say I'm one of these people who thinks it's really bad that the Cup holders don't get a bye in the 1st round. I don't care who it is and I don't know what anyone else here thinks- but effectively it means a team can work hard all year to win the trophy in December, and then by knocked out again 2 months after. Seems wrong somehow.

bovenbuuf
09-27-2004, 07:07 PM
yeah I agree Rosie sometimes its a little bit unfair.. like now with Australia they won it and the next year they were gone very very fast... but well its the system, they won't change it that fast

sigmagirl91
09-27-2004, 08:34 PM
I have a feeling that the Argies will get the Swedes. That's just my humble opinion.

*Ljubica*
09-27-2004, 08:55 PM
I have a feeling that the Argies will get the Swedes. That's just my humble opinion.

Then I hope it will be in Buenos Aires because the Swedes are a good team and very difficult to beat at home.

jazz_girl
09-27-2004, 09:29 PM
I have a feeling that the Argies will get the Swedes. That's just my humble opinion.
I'm beteween Croatia and Sweden...

sigmagirl91
09-28-2004, 12:32 AM
Jazz, Rosie, if it's the Swedes, they may play away-we have to check seedings to be sure; Croatia-definitely at home.

jazz_girl
09-28-2004, 12:58 AM
It was in Clarin. If it's Sweden we'll play in Argentina, if it's with Croatia will be away.

sigmagirl91
09-28-2004, 01:11 AM
The other way around? OK. Guess the higher seed will not get home-court advantage. Here I was thinking it was the other way around.

jazz_girl
09-28-2004, 01:53 AM
Look at the first post, I got it from an article in Clarin, there it explained all the possibilities.

sigmagirl91
09-28-2004, 01:54 AM
OK, so I am going blind LOL!!! I wear glasses, and I can't see. I need my eye doctor quick. Or is it because it's getting late?

jazz_girl
09-28-2004, 02:01 AM
I need to go to the eye doctor urgently!!! I've been reading a lot lately and I've been having terrible headaches! So I think I might start using my glasses again, even though I don't want to...

Marc Rosset is Tall
09-28-2004, 05:15 AM
Don't worry jazz you are still sexy with glasses on.

Argentina will be away to Croatia because the last time they played it was in Argentina.

*Ljubica*
09-28-2004, 06:23 AM
I need to go to the eye doctor urgently!!! I've been reading a lot lately and I've been having terrible headaches! So I think I might start using my glasses again, even though I don't want to...

Must be catching - I'm going for my annual check-up next week. I wear glasses for reading and computer work - I know a lot of women don't like to wear them but it doesn't bother me - I quite like mine actually :)

sigmagirl91
09-28-2004, 11:40 AM
Must be catching - I'm going for my annual check-up next week. I wear glasses for reading and computer work - I know a lot of women don't like to wear them but it doesn't bother me - I quite like mine actually :)

I love mine. I bought an attractive pair last year (thank goodness for insurance, right?), and I feel like a million bucks in 'em.

bibi_s
09-28-2004, 11:54 AM
I need to go to the eye doctor urgently!!! I've been reading a lot lately and I've been having terrible headaches! So I think I might start using my glasses again, even though I don't want to...
Have you tried with contact lens, Jazz. I myself use lens for many years now and I feel good about it. :wavey:

sigmagirl91
09-28-2004, 11:57 AM
Have you tried with contact lens, Jazz. I myself use lens for many years now and I feel good about it. :wavey:

I had contact lenses some years ago, but they irritated my eyes. I don't wear them for that reason.

jazz_girl
09-28-2004, 01:41 PM
I only have to wear them when I'm reading. I don't mind wearing them, but they're unconfortable! And I cannot wear contact lenses, I can't put them on!

sigmagirl91
09-28-2004, 03:44 PM
I only have to wear them when I'm reading. I don't mind wearing them, but they're unconfortable! And I cannot wear contact lenses, I can't put them on!

When you get some money, get a pair you like-that feel comfy on you. Contact lenses can be more trouble than they're worth sometimes, which is why I don't have them anymore.

jazz_girl
09-28-2004, 04:20 PM
My glasses are not ugly, but I can't get used to wearing them. I don't know what's wrong. I've been wearing them to read since I'm 10, and I still can't stand them! LOL!
I have to go to the eye doctor, maybe in a couple of weeks, and he'll have to change the graduation, I'm sure. So maybe I'll try to get a new pair and see if I can get used to these ones...

sigmagirl91
09-28-2004, 04:23 PM
My glasses are not ugly, but I can't get used to wearing them. I don't know what's wrong. I've been wearing them to read since I'm 10, and I still can't stand them! LOL!
I have to go to the eye doctor, maybe in a couple of weeks, and he'll have to change the graduation, I'm sure. So maybe I'll try to get a new pair and see if I can get used to these ones...


It takes awhile to get used to wearing glasses. I started wearing glasses when I was 10 as well, and it took a lot of getting used to.

jazz_girl
09-29-2004, 03:18 PM
Seeds for the 2005 Davis Cup by BNP Paribas are as follows:

World Group
1 - Spain
2 - United States
3 - France
4 - Australia
5 - Russia
6 - Argentina
7 - Switzerland
8 - Belarus

The eight remaining nations are Sweden, Netherlands, Croatia, Czech Republic, Austria, Romania, Chile and Slovak Republic.

Europe/Africa Group I
1 - Great Britain
2 - Germany
3 - Morocco
4 - Belgium

The six remaining nations are Zimbabwe, Luxembourg, Israel, South Africa, Italy and Serbia/Montenegro.

Asia/Oceania Group I
1 - Thailand
2 - India
3 - Japan
4 - Uzbekistan

The four remaining nations are Pakistan, Indonesia, Chinese Taipei and China.

Americas Group I
Canada
Paraguay

The four remaining nations are Venezuela, Ecuador, Peru and Mexico.

Europe/Africa Group II

1 - Finland (Relegated from Group I)
2 - Greece (Relegated from Group I)
3 - Hungary (Third Round Group II Losing Nation)
4 - Poland (Third Round Group II Losing Nation)
5 - Norway
6 - Portugal
7 - Bulgaria
8 - Slovenia

The eight remaining nations are Cote D’Ivoire, Ukraine, Algeria, Georgia, Latvia, Ghana, Monaco and Estonia.

Asia/Oceania Group II

1 - New Zealand (Relegated from Group I)
2 - Korea, Rep. (Third Round Group II Losing Nation)
3 - Lebanon
4 - Kuwait

The four remaining nations are Philippines, Iran, Kazakhstan and Pacific Oceania.

Americas Group II

1 - Brazil (Relegated from Group I)
2 - Dominican Republic (Third Round Group II Losing Nation)
3 - Bahamas
4 - Uruguay

The four remaining nations are Cuba, Netherlands Antilles, Jamaica and Colombia.

sigmagirl91
09-29-2004, 04:33 PM
Just a projection for 2005 DC (1st round):

Spain vs. Slovakia
US vs. Chile
France vs. Austria
Australia vs. Romania
Russia vs. Czech Republic
Argentina vs. Croatia
Switzerland vs. Netherlands
Belarus vs. Sweden

Björki
09-29-2004, 07:24 PM
not a bad draw :D
let's hope...

*Ljubica*
09-29-2004, 08:26 PM
Don't worry Bjorki - it is not the real draw - that doesn't happen til tomorrow (Thursday). It is just Sigma's idea of what it might be, - nothng has been done yet. Sorry to confuse.

sigmagirl91
09-29-2004, 09:09 PM
Don't worry Bjorki - it is not the real draw - that doesn't happen til tomorrow (Thursday). It is just Sigma's idea of what it might be, - nothng has been done yet. Sorry to confuse.

Wouldn't it be eerie if those were really the matchups?

jazz_girl
09-29-2004, 10:16 PM
I don't think I want Croatia for the first round...

sigmagirl91
09-29-2004, 11:19 PM
I don't think I want Croatia for the first round...

If not, then maybe the Czech Republic?

jazz_girl
09-30-2004, 12:58 AM
Yeah... I'd choose Sweden, Romania, Czech Republic or Slovakia. That way we would be locals...If not, I'd be ok with Austria and the Netherlands, cause it would be a tie. And I'm not sure about Croatia...I think I'd like to avoid Chile, you know the reasons.

sigmagirl91
09-30-2004, 11:44 AM
Yeah... I'd choose Sweden, Romania, Czech Republic or Slovakia. That way we would be locals...If not, I'd be ok with Austria and the Netherlands, cause it would be a tie. And I'm not sure about Croatia...I think I'd like to avoid Chile, you know the reasons.

Why, of course we do. Anyhow, I think the US or Spain will get Chile. We'll see, though.

sigmagirl91
09-30-2004, 12:18 PM
http://www.daviscup.com/results/index.asp

Here's the draw, everyone. Let's just say, don't listen to me next time, OK.

*Ljubica*
09-30-2004, 12:25 PM
Nice first round - but I don't like the next one against Australia especially if it is away. Does anyone know?

jazz_girl
09-30-2004, 12:39 PM
I don't like the idea of facing Australia in the QF...Australia will play in their country in the first round and against Argentina too...

Boludo
09-30-2004, 12:42 PM
Yes, if both Argentina and the Aussies win then the tie will be in Australia.

Rosie, don't you know someone in Australia who could dump some clay on the grass courts there?

The last time they played it was in B.A.

jazz_girl
09-30-2004, 12:45 PM
you think it will be played on grass?
Well then, we just can count on David and Cañas then...Coria did better this year, but I'm still not so sure...any chance Austria will win their tie? :devil:

Boludo
09-30-2004, 12:46 PM
jazz, it was a joke for Rosie actually and there is no way it will be on clay. It will be on grass and probably the best singles team on grass would be Nalbandian and Canas.

*Ljubica*
09-30-2004, 12:53 PM
Yes, if both Argentina and the Aussies win then the tie will be in Australia.

Rosie, don't you know someone in Australia who could dump some clay on the grass courts there?

The last time they played it was in B.A.

Only GWH and he probably won't still be there by then! It's a shame but I really don't see Team Argentina winning the 2005 cup with this draw, - and there's not even a nice European tie for me to go and support them in :sad:

Boludo
09-30-2004, 01:10 PM
Only GWH and he probably won't still be there by then! It's a shame but I really don't see Team Argentina winning the 2005 cup with this draw, - and there's not even a nice European tie for me to go and support them in :sad:

You never know just ask him about that, but at least the Argentine team are getting to see some good places, I just hope they don't have too many injury problems.

Then again the Aussies are not having much luck with their # 2 player, but short-term pain for long-term gain.

jazz_girl
09-30-2004, 01:26 PM
Well, we don't know yet. I must admit that I hate the idea of facing Australia, but I still think we can make it if the players are fit.

sigmagirl91
09-30-2004, 01:33 PM
I took a look at that draw. Even though the Argies have a good first round, the Aussies stand in the way unfortunately, which will make for a good quarter, but I don't know if the Argies will be able to pull it out. Like Boludo says, they're not having much luck with a #2, so they may pull it off yet.

jazz_girl
09-30-2004, 01:38 PM
The good thing is that it will be played during the grass season, so they will have some practise...

jazz_girl
09-30-2004, 01:41 PM
Ok, a question here. If we play australia, then it would be played in July, the middle of winter there. Is it possible to play in an indoor grass court? Beacuse I don't think there's a way to stand so low temperatures...

*Ljubica*
09-30-2004, 01:43 PM
Sorry but I really don't give Argentina any chance against Australia on a fast grass court. Even if David was fully fit and could play three 5-set matches in 3 consecutive days, Tim Henman and GBR have already proved that one man can't win a DC tie single-handed (that's why Switzerland never to so well even with the great Federer), and I don't think Argentina have a Number 2 player strong enough to cope with Hewitt at home on grass or the huge serving Mark P. or Wayne Arthurs. It's also worth noting that Hewitt pretty much destroyed our David in the Wimby Final on grass, so even a fully-fit David is no guarantee. Sorry. As for the temperature thing Jazz - to the best of my knowledge an Australian Winter temperature in some areas is about equivalent to a Northern European Summer temperature so outside shouldn't be a problem.

Marc Rosset is Tall
09-30-2004, 01:46 PM
Such negativity Rosie, but at the same time it's not exactly a great draw at all for the Argentines. What Boludo said was true, they would need David in peak condition to win any matches there.

Jazz, they would play it in Melbourne and that can be converted into an indoor arena and then they will airlift the grass court grown elsewhere and then lay it down, just like they did in the DC finals against France and Spain.

jazz_girl
09-30-2004, 01:48 PM
I still have hope. But I'll ask again, I just checked the weather report (this is how desperate I am! LOL) and it says that in July there's an average temperature of 5°C in Australia. Can they really play in an outdoor court?
I guess they can...

jazz_girl
09-30-2004, 01:49 PM
Such negativity Rosie, but at the same time it's not exactly a great draw at all for the Argentines. What Boludo said was true, they would need David in peak condition to win any matches there.

Jazz, they would play it in Melbourne and that can be converted into an indoor arena and then they will airlift the grass court grown elsewhere and then lay it down, just like they did in the DC finals against France and Spain.
Crap! Whatever, I still believe in David, Cañas and Coria. In that order.

Marc Rosset is Tall
09-30-2004, 01:53 PM
Crap! Whatever, I still believe in David, Cañas and Coria. In that order.

You are going to have it, and it looks like GWH might have to get some clay and dump it on the courts.

That's why it's more than likely they would play it at the Tennis Centre in Melbourne. If they wanted to play it outdoors, they could do it in the northern part of the country, but Argentina are a bigger tennis nation than say Morocco so that's why they would more than likely play in Melb.

*Ljubica*
09-30-2004, 01:56 PM
Such negativity Rosie, but at the same time it's not exactly a great draw at all for the Argentines. What Boludo said was true, they would need David in peak condition to win any matches there.

Jazz, they would play it in Melbourne and that can be converted into an indoor arena and then they will airlift the grass court grown elsewhere and then lay it down, just like they did in the DC finals against France and Spain.

Not negative Marc - just realistic!!! I would be delighted to see them win, but I just don't see them doing it, - Argentina beat the Aussies 5-0 when they played there just as they did with Belarus, but away from home will be too hard I think.

Marc Rosset is Tall
09-30-2004, 01:58 PM
Not negative Marc - just realistic!!! I would be delighted to see them win, but I just don't see them doing it, - Argentina beat the Aussies 5-0 when they played there just as they did with Belarus, but away from home will be too hard I think.

I understand and it will be very difficult as well for them. Anyway when you see the guys next year, tell them that there will be some Argentine support for them.

*Ljubica*
09-30-2004, 02:08 PM
I understand and it will be very difficult as well for them. Anyway when you see the guys next year, tell them that there will be some Argentine support for them.

I'll see them in a couple of weeks so rest assured I'll pass on the message :)

Marc Rosset is Tall
09-30-2004, 02:10 PM
I'll see them in a couple of weeks so rest assured I'll pass on the message :)

I would love to be in Australia, but that won't be happening for a while. I am saving up for a South American adventure.

crigazzio
09-30-2004, 09:09 PM
I would love to be in Australia, but that won't be happening for a while. I am saving up for a South American adventure.

you mean an argentinian adventure???? :eek: Girl!!! that would be great!!!!!! :crazy:
We´ll wait for you!!!!! :)
And for everybody who wants to be here!!!!
Kiss :wavey:

*Ljubica*
09-30-2004, 09:23 PM
I would love to be in Australia, but that won't be happening for a while. I am saving up for a South American adventure.

Sounds like fun :) Most exotic places I'll be visiting in the next few weeks will be Vienna, Madrid, Basel and Paris!!!

jazz_girl
09-30-2004, 09:47 PM
Ok, I've been thinking (I think I'm obsessed already! LOL). I would never wish someone harm, but I would wish them good things, so: Kim and Lleyton will marry in February, and how about if Kim gets pregnent and Lleyton decides to be with her and won't play in 2005? That can happen...Ok, don't worry, I'll go to the shrink by myself...

sigmagirl91
09-30-2004, 09:54 PM
Ok, I've been thinking (I think I'm obsessed already! LOL). I would never wish someone harm, but I would wish them good things, so: Kim and Lleyton will marry in February, and how about if Kim gets pregnent and Lleyton decides to be with her and won't play in 2005? That can happen...Ok, don't worry, I'll go to the shrink by myself...

:rolleyes: OK, jazz, Kim had better get started on taking that EPT, and hope that it shows a pink line.

If not, then Jazz, uh, may I recommend my shrink?

jazz_girl
09-30-2004, 09:58 PM
Please, I'll ask for the number later ;)

sigmagirl91
09-30-2004, 10:55 PM
Please, I'll ask for the number later ;)

Sure, but let's wait to see what that EPT stick says.

*Ljubica*
10-01-2004, 11:16 AM
Ok, I've been thinking (I think I'm obsessed already! LOL). I would never wish someone harm, but I would wish them good things, so: Kim and Lleyton will marry in February, and how about if Kim gets pregnent and Lleyton decides to be with her and won't play in 2005? That can happen...Ok, don't worry, I'll go to the shrink by myself...

:haha: Not sure having a baby is on Kim's agenda yet - think she might want to win a Grand Slam or two first, - but it's a lovely idea!!! Who will be the first to congratulate the happy couple?

Marc Rosset is Tall
10-01-2004, 11:20 AM
you mean an argentinian adventure???? :eek: Girl!!! that would be great!!!!!! :crazy:
We´ll wait for you!!!!! :)
And for everybody who wants to be here!!!!
Kiss :wavey:

Well I am not a girl, but seriously I will need to save a lot more to spend some time in Argentina. I mean 1 week in Argentina = 3 months in Ecuador and Bolivia.

Don't worry your good wishes have been noted.

jazz_girl
10-01-2004, 01:20 PM
:haha: Not sure having a baby is on Kim's agenda yet - think she might want to win a Grand Slam or two first, - but it's a lovely idea!!! Who will be the first to congratulate the happy couple?
Believe me, I'll be the first one! LOL!

sigmagirl91
10-01-2004, 01:39 PM
Believe me, I'll be the first one! LOL!

And I'll follow right behind. :)

jazz_girl
10-01-2004, 01:46 PM
OK, I like this quote from Guillermo Coria, I think he's grown up a bit while being out of the courts. I think this is very unselfish(does this word exist?)
"Me gustaría jugar esa serie, claro, pero tenemos jugadores como Nalbandian y Cañas que juegan muy bien en rápidas. Nalbandian estuvo a un punto el año pasado de jugar la final del Abierto de Estados Unidos, y Cañas ganó un Másters Series en cemento. Creo que se acabó hace tiempo eso de que los argentinos no podíamos jugar fuera del polvo de ladrillo".
"I'd like to play that tie(against Australia), of course, but we have players like Nalbandian and Cañas that play really well on fast surfaces. Nalbandian was a match point away to play the USO final, and Cañas won a Masters Series on harcourt. I think it's over from a long time ago that thing they used to say that Argentinians could not play out of clay".

sigmagirl91
10-01-2004, 01:56 PM
OK, I like this quote from Guillermo Coria, I think he's grown up a bit while being out of the courts. I think this is very unselfish(does this word exist?)
"Me gustaría jugar esa serie, claro, pero tenemos jugadores como Nalbandian y Cañas que juegan muy bien en rápidas. Nalbandian estuvo a un punto el año pasado de jugar la final del Abierto de Estados Unidos, y Cañas ganó un Másters Series en cemento. Creo que se acabó hace tiempo eso de que los argentinos no podíamos jugar fuera del polvo de ladrillo".
"I'd like to play that tie(against Australia), of course, but we have players like Nalbandian and Cañas that play really well on fast surfaces. Nalbandian was a match point away to play the USO final, and Cañas won a Masters Series on harcourt. I think it's over from a long time ago that thing they used to say that Argentinians could not play out of clay".

Yes, Jazz, "unselfish" does exist as a word.

jazz_girl
10-01-2004, 02:04 PM
Thanks :yeah:

YulBrynnerWasBald
10-01-2004, 02:08 PM
All that is needed is for him not to try and use dodgy tactics to win matches and rely on his game instead.

*Ljubica*
10-01-2004, 02:55 PM
All that is needed is for him not to try and use dodgy tactics to win matches and rely on his game instead.

Yes - the dodgy tactics are still always a problem for me Yul - I would have to see him go at least a season or two without using them before I could really "take" to him I'm afraid.

jazz_girl
10-01-2004, 03:01 PM
He gave a really nice and long interview a few days ago and he talked about that. He aknowledged that and said that he will change. I believe him until I see otherwise...;)

sigmagirl91
10-01-2004, 03:02 PM
Seeing is believing, right? I feel the same way, Jazz.

jazz_girl
10-02-2004, 11:50 AM
I just read an interview with Mancini and he just said that he will do a meeting with all the players in Dicember. He wants to explain how everything will be, and wants that all their schedules have something in common.
I don't know if he said this, or if it's Olé that mentions this, but against Czech Republic these players will play for sure: Coria, Gaudio and Nalbandian. And that he doesn't know who the fourth player will be. David is likely to play both doubles and singles.

bovenbuuf
10-03-2004, 09:56 AM
Ok thanks, Jazz.. well do think its a good idea to have a chat with all the players in December, maybe safes some troubles

sigmagirl91
10-03-2004, 12:08 PM
Not just that, boven, but it's a show of team spirit and unity when all can come together on one accord and get the business of DC started on the right foot.

bovenbuuf
10-03-2004, 12:15 PM
yeah that is also a nice advantage..

jazz_girl
12-19-2004, 05:03 AM
According to Olé, there was a meeting yesterday and all the players (except Coria) gathered and shared thoughts. Till now, he has in mind these players: Coria, Nalbandian, Gaudio and Cañas. And his idea is to have Cañas and David as the doubles couple.

novanora
12-19-2004, 07:32 AM
According to Olé, there was a meeting yesterday and all the players (except Coria) gathered and shared thoughts. Till now, he has in mind these players: Coria, Nalbandian, Gaudio and Cañas. And his idea is to have Cañas and David as the doubles couple.
Willy back to DC~~:bigclap: and i love this doubles couple, play with another more attractive Guillermo. Hope this idea can come true!

Fedex
12-19-2004, 07:47 AM
Willy back to DC~~:bigclap: and i love this doubles couple, play with another more attractive Guillermo. Hope this idea can come true!
I would rather David play with Canas than Coria for sure. ;)

bovenbuuf
12-19-2004, 08:06 AM
According to Olé, there was a meeting yesterday and all the players (except Coria) gathered and shared thoughts. Till now, he has in mind these players: Coria, Nalbandian, Gaudio and Cañas. And his idea is to have Cañas and David as the doubles couple.
well seems to me that this is a great team. And Nova must be happy:)

novanora
12-19-2004, 08:17 AM
well seems to me that this is a great team. And Nova must be happy:)
:hug: yes, i am happy. Willy deserves his position. And if the doubles is true, i will be happier :p

bovenbuuf
12-19-2004, 08:30 AM
yeah think you are right, that Willy deserves it. ANd well would be a nice doubles

Fedex
12-19-2004, 08:41 AM
Assuming David and Coria are healthy next year, Argentina has a great shot at winning DC, and I will be cheering for them to win it. :)

*Ljubica*
12-19-2004, 12:25 PM
I would rather David play with Canas than Coria for sure. ;)

So do I Fedex..............and I hope they will play together in some other tournaments throughout the year - they would be fun to watch together :)

*Ljubica*
12-22-2004, 09:53 AM
Here is a nice article about the Davis Cup, The link is:-

http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v3/pagina.jsp?pagId=891846


Sorry I am really frantic at work today and don't have time to translate, but basically it confirms what we thought earlier, with David, Gaston, Guillermo Canas and Coria being in the team for the 1st round DC tie with David and Canas as the possible doubles team. In the 2nd round against Australia, David and Canas would be the singles players.


Palabra de capitán


La casa-quinta del complejo Nordelta, una pequeña ciudad dentro del Tigre en constante crecimiento demográfico, sirvió de escenario. Zona tranquila, noche ideal: casi 20øC, no hacía frío ni demasiado calor. El asado, clásico que no podía faltar. Aprovechando la época de pretemporada y en estricto secreto, ayer se concretó la necesitada reunión entre tenistas y el capitán, Alberto Mancini, para revisar los calendarios, unificar criterios y discutir asuntos relacionados con la Copa Davis para que ésta sea prioridad en el 2005. La convocatoria fue multitudinaria: salvo el Nø 1 nacional, Guillermo Coria, ausente con aviso (se reunió con Luli durante su estadía en la Argentina, hace casi un mes, y le prometió que "contara con él aunque no lo incluyera entre los titulares"), estuvieron los top 100 y más, desde David Nalbandian y Gastón Gaudio hasta Mariano Puerta. Entre los doblistas, no faltaron Gastón Etlis, Lucas Arnold y Mariano Hood. Mancini le había adelantado a Olé en octubre, al conocer que República Checa sería el rival de primera ronda, que pensaba juntar a los pibes. "Mi sueño es que Argentina sea como Francia o España", deseó.

Esta "cumbre" no tenía antecedentes en la breve historia de nuestro tenis y fue ejemplar, en el sentido de acercar posiciones y, dado el individualismo característico de este deporte, evitar confusiones y malentendidos. En ello fue clave la buena relación de Mancini con los jugadores: ellos lo eligieron, con Martín Jaite, como candidato para la capitanía, ante el descontento de algunos con Gustavo Luza. "Si nosotros lo pusimos, tenemos que bancarnos cualquier decisión", había dicho Juan Chela en una entrevista reciente. Entre las posibles determinaciones de Mancini que no dejen a todos conformes, está la de rotar el equipo, teniendo en cuenta las distintas superficies y la oferta de jugadores. Por ejemplo, si prefiere a Gaudio sobre Nalbandian en el single ante los checos (este diario adelantó que la idea inicial de Luli es conformar el primer equipo con Coria, Nalbandian, Gaudio y Cañas), y luego al ir al césped australiano no llama a Gaudio y convoca a Cañas para los individuales. Las formaciones se irán confirmando en el 2005. Anoche, lo importante fue que se juntó un equipo más grande.

bovenbuuf
12-22-2004, 10:39 AM
thanks Rosie.. well seems to me that this is a good team. And well guess it makes the Argentinian fans happy if David would play DC.

jazz_girl
12-22-2004, 11:26 AM
All together will make it
The country house in Nordelta, a little city inside Tigre in constant development, was the scenary. A quiet zone, an ideal night: almost 20°C, not too cold, not too hot. The clasic asado couldn't be missing. Taking advantage of the preseason and in strict secret, yesterday was made, the much needed gathering between the players and the captain, Alberto Mancini, to check the schedules, unify thoughts and discuss things related to the Davis Cup, so it will be a priority in 2005.
The gathering was full: except the national N°1, Guillermo Coria, absent (he gathered with Luli during his staying in Argentina, almost a month ago, and promised that "you can count on me even if I'm not among the chosen players), there were the top 100 and even more, from David Nalbandian and Gastón Gaudio till Mariano Puerta. Among the doubles players, there weren't missing Gastón Etlis, Lucas Arnold and Mariano Hood. Mancini had told Olé in October, knowing that Czech Republic would be the first round rival, that he thought to get together the kids. "My dream is that Argentina will be like France or Spain", he wished.
This gathering didn't have any past reference in the brief history of our national tennis and it was an example, to put together positions, given the characteristic individualism of this sport, to avoid confusions and misunderstandings. The good relationship between Mancini and the players was the key: they chose him, with Martín Jaite, as a captain, because of the unhappiness of some with Gustavo Luza. "If we put him, we should accept any decision", had said Juan Ignacio Chela in a recent interview. In the possibles determinations from Mancini that won't leave everybody happy, is the idea of rotating the team, taking notice of the different surfaces and the offer of players. For example, if he prefers Gaudio over Nalbandian in the singles against the Czechs (this newspaper already said that Luli's inicial idea is to build the first team with Coria, Nalbandian, Gaudio and Cañas), and then go to the Australian grass without calling Gaudio and calls Cañas for the singles. The teams will be confirming in 2005. Last night, the important thing was that a much bigger team got together.

*Ljubica*
12-22-2004, 11:37 AM
Thanks Jazz. The last week before Christmas is not a good time for me at work - no time to breathe let alone do translations :) Appreciate your help :worship:

*Ljubica*
12-23-2004, 09:01 AM
Here is another nice Davis Cup article for Jazz to translate!!! It's basically about everyone meeting up to discuss 2005 Davis Cup plans. Seems Mancini is very keen to build up a close "family" atmosphere amongst the players. Here is the link:-

http://www.ole.clarin.com/jsp/v3/pagina.jsp?pagId=892479


COPA DAVIS 2005


El término "histórico" ya es trillado y hasta impropio: mejor dejarlo para cuestiones de mayor trascendencia. Sí se podría calificar de inédita y ejemplar la reunión de anteanoche en un caserón del Complejo Nordelta, en el Tigre, del capitán de la Copa Davis, Alberto Mancini, con los mejores tenistas del país, cumbre que Olé anunció en exclusiva. Fue el primer paso para crear una conciencia de equipo, objetivo madre de Luli al asumir el cargo en lugar de Gustavo Luza. Pasemos lista: estuvieron David Nalbandian; Franco Davin en representación de su dirigido, Gastón Gaudio (tenía un compromiso con anterioridad); Guillermo Cañas; Juan Chela; Agustín Calleri; Mariano Zabaleta; José Acasuso; Juan Mónaco; Mariano Puerta; los doblistas Gastón Etlis (dueño de la casa), Lucas Arnold y Mariano Hood; más entrenadores, preparadores físico y colaboradores del capitán. Llegaron cerca de las 21 y se fueron pasada la medianoche. Fernando Cao, PF de Cañas, fue el asador. Con la mesa servida, Mancini tomó la palabra: aludió a la importancia de la unión y lo imprevisible del circuito: hoy está uno, mañana lo puede reemplazar otro. Por eso es vital que nadie se sienta excluido. De conclusión, promesa y slogan: "Apoyá aunque no te convoquen".

En la noche del asado top secret, todos apagaron sus celulares. Ayer, Olé se comunicó con algunos de los protagonistas del mitin. "Nunca vi algo así, todos unidos con el mismo objetivo. Ya juntarnos fue increíble", dijo Chela. Algo similar opinó Puerta: "En los siete u ocho años que llevo en el circuito, no había estado en una reunión parecida. Es el puntapié inicial para tratar de ganar la Davis". Por su parte, Mariano Zabaleta consideró que "fue una iniciativa buenísima de Luli, que todos tiremos para el mismo lado. Coincidimos en que tenemos ganas de ganar la Copa; si lo logramos, bien; si no, estaremos tranquilos, hicimos lo posible".

Gran parte de la charla giró en torno a armar los calendarios priorizando la Copa y a, dicho está, aceptar que el cambio de fichas pueda ser fluido en caso de avanzar, dado que hay especialistas en polvo y otros que rinden mejor en césped. "La idea es que uno puede ganar un torneo y pegar un salto; en tres meses los presentes de cada jugador pueden cambiar demasiado. Yo estoy 9ø del país y fui al asado", se entusiasmó Puerta. Zabaleta agregó que "lamentablemente, son cuatro los que integran el equipo oficial, pero hoy en día hay 12 ó 13 jugadores convocables. Los que no estén pueden sumar en las prácticas, por ejemplo". Según Chela, "le puede tocar a cualquiera". Puerta resaltó que "Argentina es potencia muy grande y queremos que la sensación de equipo sea la misma que hay en Australia, Francia o España. Son como modelos".

En esto, es clave la onda de Mancini con los jugadores: "No estuve en la carta (NdeR: la que terminó con la renuncia de Luza), pero esto se hace porque es uno de los tipos que los jugadores querían", afirmó Puerta. "Habría sido igual con Jaite; con otro no. Mancini es joven, ganó mucho y tiene buena llegada". El primer paso, entonces, está dado.

bovenbuuf
12-23-2004, 09:05 AM
yes Jazz.. really hope you can do it and well that you have time! Will be appriciated!Here its the same as Rosie.. to busy with classes and work

jazz_girl
12-23-2004, 11:27 AM
I read it a few minutes ago, but I didn't think it was worth translating the whole thing, since it's too similar to the one from yesterday. Here are the quotes from the players:
Chela: "I've never seen anything like it, all together for the same goal. Being together was incredible"
Puerta: "In the seven or eight years I've been in the circuit, I hadn't been in a meeting like this one. It's the first step to try to win the Davis Cup." "Argentina In a very big power and we want that the team feeling will be the same there is in Australia, France or Spain. They're like role models"
Zabaleta: "It was a great idea from Luli, that everyone is on the same side. fue We agree on wanting to win the DC; if we make it, great, if not, we'll be at ease, we did our best" "Unfourtunatly, they are four the ones that form the official team, but nowadays there are 12 or 13 very good ones. The ones that won't be there, they can add in the practices, for example"

bovenbuuf
12-23-2004, 06:41 PM
Ok Jazz.. and thanks!