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Winter/Spring HC season 2011

lalaland
02-04-2011, 09:20 PM
Just need a new thread for Feb and March...

His draw in Rotterdam:

1 1 SODERLING, Robin SWE
2 WC HAASE, Robin NED
3 KOHLSCHREIBER, Philipp GER
4 LU, Yen-Hsun TPE

5 GULBIS, Ernests LAT
6 DE BAKKER, Thiemo NED
7 GRANOLLERS, Marcel ESP
8 6 YOUZHNY, Mikhail RUS

9 3 FERRER, David ESP
10 NIEMINEN, Jarkko FIN
11 TROICKI, Viktor SRB
12 WC SCHOOREL, Thomas NED

13 CILIC, Marin CRO
14 QUALIFIER
15 WC HUTA GALUNG, Jesse NED
5 16 MELZER, Jurgen AUT
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17 TSONGA, Jo-Wilfried FRA
18 8 QUALIFIER
19 DAVYDENKO, Nikolay RUS
20 LLODRA, Michael FRA

21 GOLUBEV, Andrey KAZ
22 QUALIFIER
23 GARCIA-LOPEZ, Guillermo ESP
24 4 BERDYCH, Tomas CZE

25 7 LJUBICIC, Ivan CRO
26 STAKHOVSKY, Sergiy UKR
27 QUALIFIER
28 SIMON, Gilles FRA

29 MAYER, Florian GER
30 LOPEZ, Feliciano ESP
31 BAGHDATIS, Marcos CYP
32 2 MURRAY, Andy GBR

Too close to Murray for my liking :mad:, and I never like first round facing qualifier...but like I always said, it could be worse (poor Baggy :scared:)

MsTree
02-04-2011, 09:21 PM
Allez Gilles! :D

Over the next few months he plays Rotterdam, Marseille and Dubai.

The Rotterdam draw is out http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2011/407/mds.pdf

He has a qualifier in R1, Ljubicic or Stakhovsky in R2 and one from Andy M, Baggy, Feli or Florian Mayer in R3. Lets just not look any further than that for now :lol:

MsTree
02-04-2011, 09:23 PM
LOL we both had the same idea :) Can't see the way to delete my thread though so I'll pm Carlita :)

Silver.
02-04-2011, 09:25 PM
I wasn't brave enough to make a new thread, i posted in scheduling :angel: but I think it's not a bad draw :) I know Murray is a difficulty for Gilles but he may be tired after AO...i'm being optimistic :P Good luck to him anyway ;)

lalaland
02-04-2011, 09:29 PM
Oh, sorry Les. Didn't see yours.

MsTree
02-04-2011, 09:40 PM
Yours was first, but I did a refresh right before I posted it so there was only a few seconds in it :lol:

You had good success with your Oz thread and I'm a known jinxer so it's for the best :hug:

heba-mig
02-04-2011, 10:01 PM
hi :wavey:
I think it's probably a good draw, you know Murray will likely go in a self destruction period like he did last year when he lost AO Final to Roger
So maybe he will be out from the first round (too optimistic.. I know:))
anyway good luck Gilles ;) and hopefully he will go far in this tournament ..

FlameOn
02-04-2011, 10:14 PM
Allez! :rocker2:

lalaland
02-04-2011, 11:28 PM
Ahhhh, I like Andy, I don't want to wish him bad. But if he's going to slump and lose to someone early, then I wish he can get to QF and lose to Gilles ;), would be a great boost for our boy to beat his nemesis for a change :angel:. But there's a qualifier and possibly a legenda in the way before we can talk about a QF, so I shouldn't get ahead of myself.

MsTree
02-04-2011, 11:56 PM
I love Andy but I'll be cheering the house down for Gillou, should they both make it that far! :D
We get TV coverage from Thursday, if there are streams, can someone record them? (if there are any, the streaming sites are being hit just now :o)

lalaland
02-05-2011, 12:02 AM
ESPN3 starts coverage on thurs too, for sure I'll be able to record it from then on.

Gillouthe best
02-05-2011, 08:20 AM
Allezz

Silver.
02-06-2011, 03:37 PM
Gilles isn't listed on OOP for tomorrow, he is playing Benoit Paire on Tuesday then. I want this young frenchie to do well, I like the look of him, shame he got drawn against my favorite, Gilles always comes first :)

Gillouthe best
02-06-2011, 06:22 PM
Wow, that was good luck. I think Benoit was the easiest qualy of the ones who entered main draw

Kezzi
02-06-2011, 07:49 PM
Quick report from the train :) I saw Gilou practicing today and I got the cutest pic of him when he saw me at the side of the court taking pics. Of course tutu gave me a few looks too, I could just see him thinking "somehow you look familiar..." :lol:
Anyway, I didn't see them, but heard from a friend that Gilou brought his lucky charm, little Timothee. :D He was indeed in a hurry after practice, think he wanted to go back to the hotel asap. I hope I will see Carine around when there are no matches right next to the training court, today Julien and Benoit played right next to that court. Lucky me, I didn't have to choose, but Gilou wins anyway, haha.
Only thing that worried me a bit was his neck. He was already there, but my friend saw him walking on court with one of those whiplash collars on his neck and during training he was touching it a lot. Afterwards he sat down and did some exercises like turning his head left and right. But he could still laugh with Llodra and he didn't seem to be in extreme pain when he was twisting his head, so it might be that he slept on the wrong side, woke up with a little pain and just took precautions. :shrug: That was it for today, sorry for any spelling mistakes (phone keyboard is a bit annoying) and pictures will be up when I get home. :wavey:

MsTree
02-06-2011, 08:04 PM
Thanks for the report Kezzi, looking forward to seeing the pics :D

Silver.
02-06-2011, 08:27 PM
Thanks so much Kezzi! :D

Kezzi
02-07-2011, 12:41 AM
I should be asleep right now, but I'm not tired yet, so I only did the two pictures to complement my report. :)
The cute one and the one where you see how he was holding his neck for a while. :awww:

lalaland
02-07-2011, 06:51 AM
Thanks Kezzi, for the report and the pics. Hope you get to see Carine.

He's in a neck brace? hope the neck loosen up by the time he plays the first match.

Kezzi
02-07-2011, 07:40 AM
Well, he didn't leave with it, so I really don't know what's wrong. I think I will see him again today, so I will pay attention. :) Maybe everything is fine.

Kezzi
02-07-2011, 04:56 PM
I saw Gilou practice again this morning and for the last 15 minutes or so Carine came along with Timothée to watch his daddy. :hearts: She was holding him up and talking to him like she wanted to say 'look there's daddy'. :) It was so cute and he was really sweet, not crying at all. Later on she sat down with him on her lap, when Gilles was finished he walked to them and she stood up. He could look the baby in the eyes and he made these big eyes and moved his mouth like a fish and started to move his head. It was the cutest thing ever. Just observed them, cause I didn't want to bother them. Especially not because Carine was occupied with the little one the whole time, cuddling and playing. :D She is even more beautiful in real life than on photos. :D Oh and we have the same taste, I have the same belt she was wearing. It's just a different color,I bought it in Marseille 3 years ago.

heba-mig
02-07-2011, 05:14 PM
thanks Kezzi so much for your reports
you're having a lot of fun.. lucky you :)
did you get any pictures for us? I hope you did;)
by the way gillou playing his first match on Wed

Silver.
02-07-2011, 06:28 PM
Thanks again Kezzi, sounds so cute :) I bet he is a great dad.

Kezzi
02-07-2011, 10:56 PM
I don't have picture from today, it was pretty busy at the training court, so I couldn't just stand where I did yesterday to take pictures without a large green net obstructing my view. But I will go again tomorrow, probably last day for me this week, so if I see him practicing, will try to take some more pics then. Unfortunately I can't be at his match, cause I have school from 8:30 - 20:00 :eek: Anyway, Thursday off, so I have lots of time to upload my pics. :)

And yeah, I think Gilles is an amazing dad, he's so cute with the baby. :) And little Timothée looks just like him minus the hair. ;) My sister said that she thinks Gilles looked at the baby with a face like "How did I do that?". Like he can't believe that cute baby is his. :lol:

lalaland
02-07-2011, 11:02 PM
And yeah, I think Gilles is an amazing dad, he's so cute with the baby. :) And little Timothée looks just like him minus the hair. ;) My sister said that she thinks Gilles looked at the baby with a face like "How did I do that?". Like he can't believe that cute baby is his. :lol:

Awww, Baby Timothée must be super cute then, just like his dad. :lol: @ what your sister said, I can imagine his expression though. I also think Gilles is probably a great dad, and a super happy one too :D.

And thanks again for your lovely report, Kezzi.

MsTree
02-07-2011, 11:13 PM
I'm loving the baby reports :awww: Who cares about the tennis? :lol:

Cloudygirl
02-07-2011, 11:57 PM
omg that sounds soo cute.

heba-mig
02-08-2011, 01:56 PM
omg that sounds soo cute.
indeed

teem
02-08-2011, 03:35 PM
Quick report from the train :) I saw Gilou practicing today and I got the cutest pic of him when he saw me at the side of the court taking pics. Of course tutu gave me a few looks too, I could just see him thinking "somehow you look familiar..." :lol:
Anyway, I didn't see them, but heard from a friend that Gilou brought his lucky charm, little Timothee. :D He was indeed in a hurry after practice, think he wanted to go back to the hotel asap. I hope I will see Carine around when there are no matches right next to the training court, today Julien and Benoit played right next to that court. Lucky me, I didn't have to choose, but Gilou wins anyway, haha.
Only thing that worried me a bit was his neck. He was already there, but my friend saw him walking on court with one of those whiplash collars on his neck and during training he was touching it a lot. Afterwards he sat down and did some exercises like turning his head left and right. But he could still laugh with Llodra and he didn't seem to be in extreme pain when he was twisting his head, so it might be that he slept on the wrong side, woke up with a little pain and just took precautions. :shrug: That was it for today, sorry for any spelling mistakes (phone keyboard is a bit annoying) and pictures will be up when I get home. :wavey:

Hye Kezzi, nice to read you, nice to know you in rotherdam ... for the pics I hope you don't go after rotherdam to marseille but return at home !

Kezzi
02-08-2011, 07:55 PM
Hi guys! Again a report from the train. :) I'm an even bigger fan of Gilou after today. :D I'm so sad I can't make it to his match tomorow, it's court 1. :crying2: I have to be in school, if I miss this class I'm not allowed to take the exam. :sad:
Anyway, back to the report. I saw Gilou practicing today and afterwards a girl wanted him to sign a ball, but she only had a regular pen, not one of those permanent markers. So Gilles put on a big smile and asked the 5 people around for it. I gave him mine and when he was done signing he walked towards me to give the marker back. Then I asked him for a picture of just him and he gave me this shy smile and said 'I don't like that...' I didn't really know what to say, cause I have never seen a player who ever said that. :lol: So then he said: ok, just one... But at the same time a woman also standing there offered to take a pic of us together and he smiled at me again and replied 'Yeah, I prefer that!'. The picture didn't turn out that great, cause it is pretty dark next to the training courts, so we look like we're standing in the shadow. :) But I can look at it and remember this moment. He was just soooooooo adorable. :hearts:
Didn't see Carine and Timothée this time, but Gilles wasn't in a hurry today like in the weekend when he wanted to get back to the hotel.

Teem, don't worry, I'm on my way home and I will have time in the next few days to upload pics before I go to Marseille. :) And while writing this I'm contemplating if I might say I'm ill tomorrow. :o I mean, it's Gilou on court 1!!! It's such a small court, if he climbs the ranking again, he'll be back on center court next year. On court 1 I can see him play 2 meters away from me... :eek:

lalaland
02-08-2011, 08:03 PM
Thanks Kezzi, for another sweet report. I hope you get to see him play and without risking your school work.

So Court 1, no stream then. :sad: I would love to see Paire too ;). On Ayane's blog, someone posted L'Equipe said Gilles' match was supposed to be on monday, but because he has that stiff neck, they moved the match to wed for him. Nice of them.

MsTree
02-08-2011, 08:18 PM
Thanks Kezzi! You've had so much Gillou contact I almost feel like I've met him myself :lol: Glad you've had such a good time there! Would love to go one year :)

Silver.
02-08-2011, 08:31 PM
Thankyou again Kezzi, lucky you :) Don't want to be a bad influence on School vs. Gillou so i'll let you decide :p

On Ayane's blog, someone posted L'Equipe said Gilles' match was supposed to be on monday, but because he has that stiff neck, they moved the match to wed for him. Nice of them.

That's great that they did that :) Good luck to Gilles tomorrow

Cloudygirl
02-08-2011, 08:41 PM
Hi guys! Again a report from the train. :) I'm an even bigger fan of Gilou after today. :D I'm so sad I can't make it to his match tomorow, it's court 1. :crying2: I have to be in school, if I miss this class I'm not allowed to take the exam. :sad:
Anyway, back to the report. I saw Gilou practicing today and afterwards a girl wanted him to sign a ball, but she only had a regular pen, not one of those permanent markers. So Gilles put on a big smile and asked the 5 people around for it. I gave him mine and when he was done signing he walked towards me to give the marker back. Then I asked him for a picture of just him and he gave me this shy smile and said 'I don't like that...' I didn't really know what to say, cause I have never seen a player who ever said that. :lol: So then he said: ok, just one... But at the same time a woman also standing there offered to take a pic of us together and he smiled at me again and replied 'Yeah, I prefer that!'. The picture didn't turn out that great, cause it is pretty dark next to the training courts, so we look like we're standing in the shadow. :) But I can look at it and remember this moment. He was just soooooooo adorable. :hearts:
Didn't see Carine and Timothée this time, but Gilles wasn't in a hurry today like in the weekend when he wanted to get back to the hotel.

Teem, don't worry, I'm on my way home and I will have time in the next few days to upload pics before I go to Marseille. :) And while writing this I'm contemplating if I might say I'm ill tomorrow. :o I mean, it's Gilou on court 1!!! It's such a small court, if he climbs the ranking again, he'll be back on center court next year. On court 1 I can see him play 2 meters away from me... :eek:


if it's not televised then you won't get caught provided they don't read your posts here ;) but don't flunk exams not even Gilles is worth that!!

Kezzi
02-08-2011, 09:13 PM
Well, I have resits too at the same time, so I know I won't study a lot anyway for this one. Decisions, decisions, pfff. :p
I emailed the course coordinator and hope for an answer in the morning. :)

BlueLighthouse
02-09-2011, 04:52 AM
Hi Kezzi - Love your report about Gillou and his entourage :hearts:

Kezzi
02-09-2011, 07:28 AM
Thanks and you're welcome! :)

I've restrained myself and went to school... The day is too long to miss, but I'm still sad I can't see Gilles play so close. Will stalk Richard next year to get him on court 1 again. It helped with the scoreboard at Bennet's first quali match. I was watching live scores on my phone, cause the scoreboard was mia. Then I saw Richard and remembered he has twitter. I tweeted him and in the last set, the scoreboard showed up. :p

teem
02-09-2011, 08:59 AM
Well Kezzi so you don't go to see gilou today ? exams ?
the matter is that jo will play on central court on the same time as gilou in the number 1, and twice against 2 frenchies ! so bad !:rolleyes:

Silver.
02-09-2011, 12:36 PM
Well Gilles lost the first set 6-2 but made up for by winning the second 6-2. Not sure what happened there in the first poor first serve percentage at 45% and didn't convert any of the 4 BPs. Second set 80% first serve :bigclap: and converted the the two BPs to win 6-2 :)

3rd set Gilles has BP on Paries first game...Paire holds.

Silver.
02-09-2011, 12:42 PM
Paire has broken to lead 2-0 :sad: nooooo

Silver.
02-09-2011, 12:45 PM
Gilles breaks back :D needs to hold. I hope Thimothee works as a good luck charm like he did Metz ;) fingers crossed

Silver.
02-09-2011, 12:49 PM
Gilles broken. :o

Silver.
02-09-2011, 01:01 PM
Gilles breaks back. Break fest. :rolleyes: Gilles has won one point out of 9 on his second serve this set.

Silver.
02-09-2011, 01:14 PM
Gilles is out. :sad: :sad: 6-2, 2-6, 6-3. Maybe his neck was troubling him? This sucks.

Boomer23
02-09-2011, 01:52 PM
Damn it, I was so sure he was on a great roll... I'm desappointed for him

And my FITD is really dead now, I put him winner, bad call

Kezzi
02-09-2011, 02:30 PM
I should have been there to support him. :sad: Especially when this class I wasn't supposed to miss didn't have any depth at all. It was more like meeting your tutor, have some general chat about what the course is about and we could leave again. :smash:

teem
02-09-2011, 03:14 PM
I couldn't believe it ! poor poussin ! too sad ! I was just watching the stream with jo and micka ... pffft
well now I'm just waiting for Kezzi's pic !!! :D

Scotso
02-09-2011, 05:28 PM
Epic.

turtle-rn
02-09-2011, 05:43 PM
I don't mind, I like Benoit just as much. :p

lalaland
02-09-2011, 06:23 PM
Ahhhhhh, lost, to the great bright French hope...Benoit is not to be taken lightly. Anyway, always thought qualifier in R1 is tough, he's already in a roll and you come in cold... and in Gilles' case, stiff too. Oh well, good that it's already wednesday, the next tournament is just few days away. Better luck next week, be fit and play better will also help ;). Allez Gilles.

MsTree
02-09-2011, 07:12 PM
Gilles :(

Kezzi
02-09-2011, 07:39 PM
I can safely say that the most useful thing I will do today is uploading my pics. :tape: Once again the teachers made it look like their classes were oh so important while I could keep up with them while thinking Allez Gilou the whole time. :yawn: I hate it when that happens, but I don't think me being there would have made a huge difference, cause if I went to Rotterdam today two brand new Benoit fans would have joined me. :p

heba-mig
02-09-2011, 07:55 PM
and now Murray is out
oh Gilles :sad:

lalaland
02-09-2011, 08:26 PM
I can safely say that the most useful thing I will do today is uploading my pics. :tape: Once again the teachers made it look like their classes were oh so important while I could keep up with them while thinking Allez Gilou the whole time. :yawn: I hate it when that happens, but I don't think me being there would have made a huge difference, cause if I went to Rotterdam today two brand new Benoit fans would have joined me. :p

Kezzi :hug:. Look at it this way, you've already seen the best of Gilles in Rotterdam, that 15 mins with Timothee at courtside ;).

If you do get to watch his match in Marseille though, I hope he put up a better performance for you.

FlameOn
02-09-2011, 09:11 PM
Oh too bad. :sad: But Gillou will come back stronger I'm sure. :D

Kezzi
02-09-2011, 09:16 PM
Kezzi :hug:. Look at it this way, you've already seen the best of Gilles in Rotterdam, that 15 mins with Timothee at courtside ;).

If you do get to watch his match in Marseille though, I hope he put up a better performance for you.
I know, I still feel happy that I got to see Gilou being cute a lot. :) But still, it was the only match I really really really wanted to see.

Yes, I hope he feels 100% again then.

edit: Sorry guys, pictures are coming tomorrow. I'm too tired and I have work tomorrow morning, not even looking at Gilou is keeping me awake atm, so good night to all! :zzz: :wavey:

Scotso
02-09-2011, 11:55 PM
I don't mind, I like Benoit just as much. :p

Blasphemer! You should be sacrificed to the Gods for such insolence.

turtle-rn
02-10-2011, 12:31 AM
That proposition has already been deemed unacceptable by the Gods, I and my insolence miserably failed the virgin test. :yippee:

lalaland
02-10-2011, 06:37 AM
From L'Equipe...

PAIRE, LE VERRE À MOITIÉ POINTS. – Il existe deux manières d’analyser le succès de Benoît Paire (21 ans, 136e) sur Gilles Simon. Le verre à moitié plein souligne la superbe perf de l’Avignonnais, vainqueur à la suite de Julien Benneteau, 59e mondial (au dernier tour des qualifs) et du récent vainqueur de Sydney (33e). Celui à moitié vide insiste sur l’état physique de son adversaire. Victime depuis six jours d’un insidieux torticolis, Simon évoluait loin de son meilleur niveau. « Je ne pouvais ni courir sur ses amorties, ni frapper un revers. C’était parfois pathétique. » Échaudé par sa mésaventure néerlandaise, il envisageait hier de zapper le tournoi de Marseille. Paire espère, lui, y décrocher une wild-card. « Une victoire essentielle pour moi, dit-il. Je fais la course aux points ATP et ce succès me rapporte autant qu’un ( petit) titre en Challenger. C’est bien, depuis le début de l’année, je sens en moi une vraie motivation. » Paire affronte aujourd’hui Ivan Ljubicic, celui-là même qui l’avait éliminé en quatre sets au deuxième tour de l’Open d’Australie.

Does it say he's going to skip Marseille?

simplet
02-10-2011, 08:48 AM
From L'Equipe...

PAIRE, LE VERRE À MOITIÉ POINTS. – Il existe deux manières d’analyser le succès de Benoît Paire (21 ans, 136e) sur Gilles Simon. Le verre à moitié plein souligne la superbe perf de l’Avignonnais, vainqueur à la suite de Julien Benneteau, 59e mondial (au dernier tour des qualifs) et du récent vainqueur de Sydney (33e). Celui à moitié vide insiste sur l’état physique de son adversaire. Victime depuis six jours d’un insidieux torticolis, Simon évoluait loin de son meilleur niveau. « Je ne pouvais ni courir sur ses amorties, ni frapper un revers. C’était parfois pathétique. » Échaudé par sa mésaventure néerlandaise, il envisageait hier de zapper le tournoi de Marseille. Paire espère, lui, y décrocher une wild-card. « Une victoire essentielle pour moi, dit-il. Je fais la course aux points ATP et ce succès me rapporte autant qu’un ( petit) titre en Challenger. C’est bien, depuis le début de l’année, je sens en moi une vraie motivation. » Paire affronte aujourd’hui Ivan Ljubicic, celui-là même qui l’avait éliminé en quatre sets au deuxième tour de l’Open d’Australie.

Does it say he's going to skip Marseille?

It says maybe

Kezzi
02-10-2011, 09:26 AM
Oh wow, my two fave Frenchies now have the 'maybe' status for Marseille. :( Thank god I'm also visiting a friend. :p
Did I read it correctly that Paire gets a wildcard? Will make my sister happy. She 'discovered' him in Rotterdam. :)

Boomer23
02-10-2011, 10:56 AM
SImon said he's considering to skip Marseille.

And Benoit hopes to get a WC for Marseille, he doesn't have one yet

lalaland
02-10-2011, 06:18 PM
Thanks for the clarification, guys.

Sorry for you, Kezzi, if he's really pulling out. But more time to visit the city with your friend ;), maybe.

On the other hand, I'm pleasantly surprised that Gilles' considering pulling out a tournament to rest an injury :eek:. Did he really get older and wiser :p? I'm just too used to him playing thru his injuries :rolleyes:, so him actually considering pulling out is already an improvement :D.

teem
02-10-2011, 06:43 PM
Thanks for the clarification, guys.

Sorry for you, Kezzi, if he's really pulling out. But more time to visit the city with your friend ;), maybe.

On the other hand, I'm pleasantly surprised that Gilles' considering pulling out a tournament to rest an injury :eek:. Did he really get older and wiser :p? I'm just too used to him playing thru his injuries :rolleyes:, so him actually considering pulling out is already an improvement :D.

there are some injuries whitch them you can find solutions on court but what can you do with a torticolis !!! ? nothing, that's why ...

lalaland
02-10-2011, 07:51 PM
there are some injuries whitch them you can find solutions on court but what can you do with a torticolis !!! ? nothing, that's why ...

Yes, I don't doubt that. We watched him managed to win matches hopping around the court with the knee injury...for a year. I admit that I fully enjoyed that Bercy 09 match against Ljubo, while agonizing the whole time wondering how much damage that was doing to his injury. Anyhow, his ability to find solutions on court while playing with an injury is really not the issue here, the issue is the idiocy of putting your body thru such agony. I know professional athletes do that all the time. I'm just thinking that sometimes they should also be sensible, bcos playing thru pain and loses in first round apparently get you nowhere.

teem
02-11-2011, 09:11 AM
Yes, I don't doubt that. We watched him managed to win matches hopping around the court with the knee injury...for a year. I admit that I fully enjoyed that Bercy 09 match against Ljubo, while agonizing the whole time wondering how much damage that was doing to his injury. Anyhow, his ability to find solutions on court while playing with an injury is really not the issue here, the issue is the idiocy of putting your body thru such agony. I know professional athletes do that all the time. I'm just thinking that sometimes they should also be sensible, bcos playing thru pain and loses in first round apparently get you nowhere.

I agree with you

Gillouthe best
02-12-2011, 12:06 PM
His quarter
Tsonga-Paire
Marchenko-Stakhovsky
Davydenko-Simon
Bye-Youzhny

Terrible draw, hope he will return to peak form

Silver.
02-12-2011, 01:06 PM
Oh great. Well I hope he does pull out so he's fully fit for Dubai and not to aggravate it. Does anyone know anything about the injury? Like how long it can last, is it an ongoing problem or a one off etc. ?

lalaland
02-12-2011, 10:36 PM
Lovely draw :rolleyes:. Not being a 100%, he surely needs a round 1 match with Kolya which the 2 men will engage in an exhausting 3 sets encounter that involves running each other ragged for 2.5 hrs :p, redux Valencia. I look forward to see it. And then if he pasts that, he'll be thrilled to see Misha his tormentor fresh like a daisy waiting for him in R2, splendid! It's way better than spending Valentine Day's with his sweetheart at home eating Swiss chocolates, no?

Okay, I kid. I'm sure if he's not pulling out then he's ready for it, he better. Allez Gilles.

Silver, to answer your question...we don't know much about his injury, he could be over it by now, or not. Depends on the cause, it could be a muscle or ligament problem...hard to tell how long it takes to get over it. But I'm no medical expert.

Talking about Valentine's Day, some fun reading.. http://blogs.tennis.com/tennisworld/2011/02/the-deuce-club-211/comments/page/2/#comments

Kezzi
02-12-2011, 10:46 PM
Yeah, that's way better :lol:
Maybe Carine prefers to spend Valentines day with her other man now. ;)

Anyway, I also have no clue about the injury, I should have asked him about it. :( Totally forgot when he didn't want me to take his picture, that was one of the few moments which left me speechless. :p

lalaland
02-12-2011, 11:43 PM
Anyway, I also have no clue about the injury, I should have asked him about it. :( Totally forgot when he didn't want me to take his picture, that was one of the few moments which left me speechless. :p

That's his specialty, isn't it? Throwing something totally unexpected at you to take you off your game ;).

When are you going to Marseille, Kezzi? Beginning of the week I hope, with Arnaud and Gilles both not really that fit, you don't want to miss them.

soulage
02-13-2011, 01:01 PM
still doubtful for Marseille http://www.eurosport.fr/tennis/open-13/2011/simon-incertain_sto2663674/flashnews.shtml he didn't pick up the racket since Rotterdam. He goes in Marseille to test if he can play anyway.

Kezzi
02-13-2011, 02:56 PM
That's his specialty, isn't it? Throwing something totally unexpected at you to take you off your game ;).

When are you going to Marseille, Kezzi? Beginning of the week I hope, with Arnaud and Gilles both not really that fit, you don't want to miss them.
Yeah, he does that very well and with the cutest smile. :p

I'm leaving tonight for Brussels, because we fly at 8am. So will be there around 10am I think. :)

still doubtful for Marseille http://www.eurosport.fr/tennis/open-13/2011/simon-incertain_sto2663674/flashnews.shtml he didn't pick up the racket since Rotterdam. He goes in Marseille to test if he can play anyway.
I hope he can, but I prefer him to take rest if he doesn't feel well.

turtle-rn
02-13-2011, 06:10 PM
Four of my fav players in the same quarter. >_< I'm almost glad I won't have time to follow that much. It's a shame Gilles' ranking is still lagging behind his form (assuming the Rotterdam result was torticollis biased lol).

lalaland
02-13-2011, 07:38 PM
Here's what L'Equipe the paper said:

« C’est sûr que ce n’est pas une bonne nouvelle, constatait hier Lionel Roux, l’entraîneur de l’équipe de France de Coupe Davis. Ça s’annonce encore plus piégeux. Mais Jo (Tsonga) n’était pas là l’an dernier à partir des quarts et on est arrivés en finale. J’espère juste qu’un jour, on les aura tous ensemble… Mais on a des joueurs, quandmême ! » Pour l’heure, Tsonga, Gasquet (si sa tendinite à l’épaule droite est résorbée), Llodra et Benneteau semblent les plus proches de la sélection, que ne devrait pas intégrer Simon. « Gilles, de manière très honnête, nous a dit qu’il estimait qu’il y avait meilleur que lui sur terre battue, une surface où il estime avoir besoin de temps pour se préparer » , confiait hier Lionel Roux. Pas de Monfils, pas de Simon : en décembre dernier, c’étaient les deux joueurs du vendredi pour la finale en Serbie...

...– Victime d’un tortocolis qui l’avait fortement handicapé au tournoi de Rotterdam, Gilles Simon n’a pas repris la raquette. Il descendra lundi à Marseille faire un test, ayant demandé aux organisateurs de ne démarrer le tournoi (face à Davydenko) que mercredi s’il était en mesure de jouer.


He asked to not start his first match until Wed....and seems like no Davis Cup for him.

Boomer23
02-13-2011, 08:46 PM
Simon said to the DC coaching team that he he taught there were better players than himself for the clay court. That he needed time to prepare to the clay.

For Marseille, he's going to do a test on court monday and asked to start his tournament on wednesday if he's able to play.

MsTree
02-14-2011, 07:53 PM
Well, hopefully he got his wish, he's not on the OOP for tomorrow :)

lalaland
02-15-2011, 07:09 AM
News in L'Equipe the paper...

Simon ne dit pas non
Si la patrie est en danger en Coupe Davis en Autriche, le Français honorera une sélection qui ne colle pas trop à son programme.

LE COU DE TRAVERS mais pas de coup tordu : bien sûr Gilles Simon sera à Vienne pour défendre le drapeau si besoin est. Hier, toujours affligé du torticolis qui l’a fait plonger au premier tour à Rotterdam, l’ex-numéro 1 français pouvait rassurer les patriotes. Il ne se dérobera pas si les circonstances obligent le capitaine Forget à faire appel à ses services. L’annonce de son impasse probable dans nos colonnes, il y a quelques jours, inquiétait au moment où l’on apprenait que Gaël Monfils était d’ores et déjà forfait pour cause de poignet touché. Gasquet, en bisbille avec son épaule et sans référence récente en Coupe Davis, ne semble pas aujourd’hui le candidat idéal pour la terre battue viennoise. Julien Benneteau et Michaël Llodra, avec des ratios négatifs sur terre en carrière ( 33 victoires-38 défaites et 14-28 respectivement) ne présentant pas les meilleures garanties, il ne restait plus que Tsonga pour pouvoir tenir tête à Jürgen Melzer, le leader autrichien, 10e joueur mondial. Tout ça n’a pas échappé à Gilles Simon, qui confiait hier au sortir de son premier entraînement depuis sa défaite aux Pays-Bas face à Benoît Paire : « Quand j’avais dit à Guy (Forget) que je préférais céder ma place pour l’Autriche, Richard (Gasquet) et Gaël ( Monfils) étaient d’aplomb. Depuis quelques jours la donne a changé. Si Guy a besoin de moi, je serai là. Ce qui ne m’empêche pas d’ajouter que ça m’arrangerait bien de ne pas y aller. » Mais Simon a déjà battu Melzer sur terre, il dispose d’un solide palmarès sur cette surface (trois titres ATP !) et d’un bon taux de réussite ( 57 victoires-41 défaites). Alors pourquoi a-t-il confié récemment à l’entraîneur de l’équipe de France Lionel Roux que « l’adaptation à la terre lui prenait plus de temps » ? « Parce que ça fait une paie que je n’ai pas eu de victoires de référence dessus, rappelait-il hier. En 2009, je n’ai jamais pu vraiment lancer ma saison sur terre après une défaite pourrie contre l’Allemand Beck à Monte-Carlo. Et l’an passé, ça a été encore pire puisque je n’ai pu jouer que trois matches. Alors oui, c’est vrai que cette semaine de Coupe Davis sur terre coincée en plein milieu de la saison sur dur ne m’emballe pas. »

« À Vienne, si t’es remplaçant, c’est une semaine perdue »
D’autant qu’il n’exclut pas quand même la possibilité d’endosser à nouveau le paletot du remplaçant ou du joueur « du dimanche », celui qui joue pour du beurre. Il l’a fait deux fois l’an passé à Clermont et à Lyon. « Mais ça ne me dérangeait pas à Lyon où c’était une bonne occasion d’entraînement de qualité sur une surface où on pouvait enchaîner sur le circuit. À Vienne, si t’es remplaçant, c’est une semaine perdue. » L’an passé, Simon a été un coéquipier exemplaire. Présent au premier tour bien que blessé, puis remplaçant deux fois, avant de devoir se coltiner l’intouchable Djokovic à Belgrade et avant de voir le capitaine Forget lui préférer Llodra pour le cinquième match décisif. « J’ai dit ce que j’avais à dire sur ce choix qui, à mon avis, était un mauvais choix » , répétait-il hier. Avant d’ajouter : « Mais je suis passé à autre chose. » Son titre à Sydney et ses cinq sets contre Federer à Melbourne ont largement prouvé qu’il n’était plus acerbe sur le couac serbe. Pour l’heure il a d’autres préoccupations : « J’ai une colonne vertébrale trop droite. Je suis sujet au torticolis. Pas grand-chose à faire. Dans quel était serai-je mercredi ? Difficile d’avoir des ambitions très élevées dans ces conditions. » Dommage pour le lauréat du tournoi en 2007 qui retrouve son vieux pote Davydenko, qu’il a battu trois fois sur trois sur dur. D’abord se remettre droit et après seulement on pourra éventuellement s’aligner à Vienne et décrocher enfin cette première victoire à enjeu en Coupe Davis qui fait cruellement défaut à son palmarès.


I got to say, I was rather wanting to think that he's allowed to be off the team so I don't have to care about it anymore, too bad he can't escape it afterall. I'm a bit sick of this DC drama by now :lol:. So Gilles is still not over that torticollis yet. I can't grasp all what he said but he didn't sound too optimistic about his chance on wed. Oh well, I guess there's no way he'll pull out at this point anyway, he'll just have to deal with it and see what happens then. :(

MsTree
02-15-2011, 06:56 PM
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2011/496/op.pdf

Not before 6.30pm local time. Can anyone record the stream? :)

I love the way google translate changes clay to earth. Makes it sound as if all his other matches were on Mars or Venus :lol:

lalaland
02-15-2011, 10:20 PM
I can't watch at that time, so if anyone can record, that really would be nice.

Silver.
02-15-2011, 11:16 PM
I'll have a go at recording, probably need a back up though, i don't trust myself yet :p the problem is I was watching Benoit vs Tsonga today and I literally could not see one shot finished it was that jerky. Internet is painfully slow, but if it improves tomorrow then hopefully it will work :)

I hope Gilles doesn't make his injury any worse :'( such a valuable time of the season for him.

Good luck to him

Kezzi
02-15-2011, 11:54 PM
I rebooked my flight so I can be at the tournament tomorrow. :o :p
It is almost my perfect oop :hearts: Only thing better would be to add Nenad and play at some small court in Rosmalen. :angel:

aloniv
02-16-2011, 04:37 PM
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2011/496/op.pdf

Not before 6.30pm local time. Can anyone record the stream? :)

I love the way google translate changes clay to earth. Makes it sound as if all his other matches were on Mars or Venus :lol:

Will there even be a recordable stream though? Cos I didn't manage to record the Troicki match with StreamTransport...

Silver.
02-16-2011, 05:40 PM
Aloniv try this - http://www.livescorehunter.com/index.php?option=com_lsh&view=lsh&event_id=39061&tv_id=342&tid=5012&channel=0&tmpl=component&layout=popup&Itemid=207

I think its recordable, but i'm not sure if im actually recording it atm

Silver.
02-16-2011, 05:46 PM
Is it weird that my neck has started to hurt just as I put the stream on...I'm not sure what i feel about this game, i want him to win all the time obviously, but i don't want him to aggravate an injury, and Youznhy is going to be very tough and its a 250...okay that was just a load of statements..anyway

Allez Gilles!

Silver.
02-16-2011, 05:52 PM
Iffy start, Broken first game, but Gilles breaks back straight away with a love game!

MsTree
02-16-2011, 06:31 PM
Oooh TB!!! Allez Gilles!

MsTree
02-16-2011, 06:39 PM
Yessssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D 8-6 :woohoo:

Silver.
02-16-2011, 06:49 PM
two breaks up in the second :D

Ivanatis
02-16-2011, 06:51 PM
good to see he's finally in control

MsTree
02-16-2011, 06:55 PM
:tape: a break back :(

Silver.
02-16-2011, 07:04 PM
livescore board says 3 aces. I thought he had hit more and i just made out "septiemme ace" from the commentators. So in fact he has hit five.

Silver.
02-16-2011, 07:13 PM
People keep walking in really late, think it got to Gilles, double fault

lalaland
02-16-2011, 07:17 PM
Hey, great to see he's winning. C'mon Gilles, get it done in 2.

MsTree
02-16-2011, 07:24 PM
Yay! :D 7-6 6-4. He did well to get it back together after that mid 2nd set wobble. Allez! :D

Silver.
02-16-2011, 07:28 PM
:woohoo: good win :) missed half of it though due to crazy siblings, ah well :p

MsTree
02-16-2011, 07:32 PM
He's playing Youzhny last tomorrow
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2011/496/op.pdf

lalaland
02-16-2011, 07:35 PM
Win!

Now he earned the right to play Misha tomorrow :scared:

Is this a tough tournament to win or what. If he wants to win it, he will have to beat Davydenko, Youznhy, Tsonga, and potentially Berdych and Soderling, all that for a 250s. Oh well. If he only wins one more match, this tournament will be considered a huge success already as far as I'm concerned ;).

Allez Gilles, good luck against Misha.

aloniv
02-16-2011, 09:06 PM
I didn't have any luck recording a stream as StreamTransport crashed when I selected the record option. If someone has any luck let me know please which version of the software (StreamTransport), operating system (Windows) and browser (internet explorer) you are using.

MsTree
02-16-2011, 10:03 PM
I came in at the end of the second set, and when I tried Streamtransport it played for a few seconds and crashed when I pressed record, I just started it up again and it worked. I often have to set the BBC site videos going twice as they'll crash first time.

Anyway, Myyra has uploaded an HD version of the match to Tennishaven :D
http://tennishaven.com/details.php?id=832

lalaland
02-16-2011, 10:18 PM
his audio itw, for those who knows French, or u just want to hear his lovely voice:

http://www.open13.fr/interviews.html

http://www.open13.fr/upload/actus-interviews-videos/gilles-simon-j-ai-vecu-mes-premieres-grandes-emotions-a-marseille-184.jpg

Boomer23
02-16-2011, 11:17 PM
Quick summary if some of you are interested...

He said he was relaxed on the court today because he couldn't train normally (back on training since monday, not more than one hour at a time)but he is feeling better.

Usually it's a really hard fight against Davydenko, he has to run a lot, today he was more offensive, especially on his serve.

He has great souvenirs with this tournament, a great win against a top 20 when he was young, his first ATP title. He was desappointed for last year because of his injury and was afraid it would be the same this year, but he is relieved that it went well today and hopes for the best.

His first title here was very important, it gave him confidence in his ability, the first ATP title is special, he beat really good players here always in 2 sets.

Speaking of youzhny : The first few times he played him, Youzhny was better than himself in rank, but it was always a great fight, 3 sets matches etc.. but it's always 5-0 against him. It's hard to enter the court knowing you always have shaken hand a the end of the match as the looser. But he doesn't have a lot of pressure because his draw is extremly hard for a 250 and coming here he didn't expect much. He'll try to be relaxed and finally beat him.

It would be great for him to beat Youzhny tomorrow and break the stats, even for later, in an other tournament it could help him to beat him tomorrow.


That's it !

It's an approximate summary, not litteral. Sorry for the mistakes I probably made as I don't fully master English language and thank you for the link lalaland

lalaland
02-16-2011, 11:30 PM
Thank you so much for the translation, Boomer.

He's 0-6 to Youzhny, I guess he lost count :lol:.
Well, anyway, good luck tomorrow Gilles, hope you break that chain.

Scotso
02-17-2011, 12:47 AM
Very nice win. :yeah:

FlameOn
02-17-2011, 02:14 AM
Nice job. :D

MsTree
02-17-2011, 07:35 PM
No stream! :o

lalaland
02-17-2011, 07:37 PM
:mad:

they listed this match last nite when I checked. but nothing on livescorehunter now.

Silver.
02-17-2011, 07:38 PM
eurghhhh why would they stop the broadcast :o :(!!!!!!!!!!!

Silver.
02-17-2011, 07:43 PM
i've kept the Mahut stream on in hope, can't find anything anywhere :(

lalaland
02-17-2011, 07:48 PM
I watched the last 4 times he lost to Misha. Maybe he will win when I don't get to watch ;). *fingers crossed*

Allez Gilles.

MsTree
02-17-2011, 08:01 PM
He;s been broken already :(

And broken back :) Come on! :D

He's just got the double break, even managed to hold his own serve in between! 5-3. Allez! :D

lalaland
02-17-2011, 08:18 PM
OMG, I'm too nervous to watch the scoreboard. He took the first set.

Allez Gilles. Please win. (please don't wobble in the 2nd set).

Silver.
02-17-2011, 08:20 PM
Hell yeah Gilles! :woohoo: Nice and easy first. Massive ALLEZ for the second :p take it in two!

MsTree
02-17-2011, 08:25 PM
Broken at the start of the 2nd :(

lalaland
02-17-2011, 08:31 PM
missed a 15-40 opportunity to get the break back :(

Allez Gilles, you can do it. C'mon!!!!!

MsTree
02-17-2011, 08:37 PM
Broken again from 40-0 up :o

lalaland
02-17-2011, 08:38 PM
Damnit, what the hell is going on? his wheel is falling off. From 40-0 to get broken.

C'mon Gilles, fight! don't go walkabout.

Silver.
02-17-2011, 08:39 PM
oh dear :sad: come on Gilles

Silver.
02-17-2011, 08:40 PM
2 Bp! Come On

lalaland
02-17-2011, 08:40 PM
Got 1 break back, yay.
Don't u get broken again. Now hold.

lalaland
02-17-2011, 08:43 PM
First serve 20% in this set :eek:
... 25% now.

Puschkin
02-17-2011, 08:47 PM
apparently something wrong with the serve.

MsTree
02-17-2011, 08:49 PM
He was having problems with his ball toss during the Davydenko match. Must be the neck :sad:

Good hold Gillou 2-4

Silver.
02-17-2011, 08:49 PM
Do you reckon it's his neck....?

lalaland
02-17-2011, 08:51 PM
He was having problems with his ball toss during the Davydenko match. Must be the neck :sad:

Good hold Gillou 2-4

Possible. It seems the left side of the neck has been hurting him. So it probably affect the ball toss. And he also said last week he can't hit the back hand. So definitely the left side was/is the problem.

lalaland
02-17-2011, 08:54 PM
5-2. His serve now. I hope he at least hold his serve to make Misha serve it out. He needs to serve first in the 3rd, if there's a 3rd ;) (still hoping)

lalaland
02-17-2011, 08:56 PM
He served 5 aces in a roll (2 from last game, 3 from this game) :eek:

MsTree
02-17-2011, 08:56 PM
That was a blink and you'd miss it service game :lol: 3-5. Come on Gilles!!!

lalaland
02-17-2011, 08:56 PM
Now, one last time to try to break back. C'mon Gilles.

MsTree
02-17-2011, 08:57 PM
Wow 5 in a row!!!! :eek:

Silver.
02-17-2011, 08:59 PM
Has my scoreboard stopped? What's taken so long between this point!? He hasn't retired has he?

lalaland
02-17-2011, 08:59 PM
3rd set is on.

37% first serve in the 2nd, and that's including 6 aces.

C'mon Gilles, you can beat him. Please do.

MsTree
02-17-2011, 09:00 PM
Mischa took the 2nd set 6-3. Come on Gilles!

lalaland
02-17-2011, 09:06 PM
Broken in the first serve game :sad:

C'mon Gilles, break back.

FlameOn
02-17-2011, 09:08 PM
Gilles :rolleyes:.

lalaland
02-17-2011, 09:16 PM
He's not making a dent on Misha's serve, losing all the 8 pts. And his first serve is not as effective as last 2 sets, probably because he's trying to get the first serve in. 1-3 still down a break.

C'mon Gilles.

Gillouthe best
02-17-2011, 09:25 PM
2-4

lalaland
02-17-2011, 09:27 PM
Can he find some inspiration to break back? He has only win 1 pt off Misha's serve this set so far.

C'mon Gilles, you can break back, please break.

lalaland
02-17-2011, 09:36 PM
:sad::sad::sad: Gilles :hug:

MsTree
02-17-2011, 09:36 PM
3-6 6-3 6-3. Time for rest and recovery Gillou :hug:

FlameOn
02-17-2011, 09:37 PM
Done. To be honest Gilles has been disappointing.

I thought after winning Sydney and his super form at AO, I thought he'd build on that and have consistent results. :sad:

MsTree
02-17-2011, 09:40 PM
Gilles is consistent only in his inconsistency. It's a rollercoaster with him :) And tbh I wouldn't have it any other way :)

Silver.
02-17-2011, 09:41 PM
Done. To be honest Gilles has been disappointing.

I thought after winning Sydney and his super form at AO, I thought he'd build on that and have consistent results. :sad:

He had a neck injury which was unfortunate. Must have played a part in his loss to Paire. To be honest, I didn't expect him to beat Youznhy either, he got a tough draw this tounry. Could have faced Tsonga next followed by Berdych. The H2H is now 7-0

FlameOn
02-17-2011, 09:48 PM
Gilles is consistent only in his inconsistency. It's a rollercoaster with him :) And tbh I wouldn't have it any other way :)
Oh don't worry I'm no gloryhunter. It's just a victory would've been nice after my Verdasco nightmare the past few days. :sad:

lalaland
02-17-2011, 09:51 PM
He's never really that consistent, not even in 2008. I remembered he lost several first rounds before he got to Madrid to beat Rafa.

But anyway, I didn't think he would beat Misha, I just hoped. But he's definitely psyched out by his trend against the Colonel, you can tell by the way he lost his last few matches against him. A win would have been such a boost, but it's not meant to be.

I had hoped that he could ride on his momentum from Australia. But unfortunately he's not as fit as he should be. Under the circumstances, these couple of losses really shouldn't affect his confidence. In term of his game, I think he knows how he can play now. And I think the good result will follow. It definitely requires patience to follow Gilles.

MsTree
02-17-2011, 09:59 PM
Oh don't worry I'm no gloryhunter. It's just a victory would've been nice after my Verdasco nightmare the past few days. :sad:

:lol: I would never call a Verdasco fan a gloryhunter :devil:

lalaland
02-17-2011, 10:14 PM
Well, next stop Dubai.

If he doesn't do well there, I think I'm just gonna close this thread to stop the trend :lol:. But I hope I didn't use up all my magic in Australia already :p. We'll see then.

Allez Gilles, rest up and be fit next week. Hopefully you get a good draw, somehow, or be super and beat up everyone if you get a bad draw ;), that would be even better :angel:.

FlameOn
02-17-2011, 10:36 PM
:lol: I would never call a Verdasco fan a gloryhunter :devil:
:p

lalaland
02-17-2011, 10:54 PM
Audio itw from today.
http://www.open13.fr/interviews.html

Gillouthe best
02-20-2011, 01:04 PM
Damnit, he faces Youzhny in R1, If he gets past him. He will face the winner of a match between two qualys. QF will be against Ljubicic

Silver.
02-20-2011, 01:19 PM
That draw is just plain cruel. :sad:

MsTree
02-20-2011, 01:48 PM
:o Not again!!! :o

lalaland
02-20-2011, 07:25 PM
:fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

draw god so mean :bigcry:
do sth about it, Gilles!

Kezzi
02-20-2011, 08:45 PM
How can anyone be so mean to sweet Gilou? :sad:

Puschkin
02-20-2011, 10:00 PM
:eek: Again. But if Gilles is fully fit, he can win, every series has an end.

Boomer23
02-21-2011, 12:19 AM
I agree with you, that's why I bet on a victory for Simon in fITD :D

Scotso
02-21-2011, 05:34 AM
Laughable.

Vitas Gerulaitis quotes are coming to mind.

Silver.
02-21-2011, 03:09 PM
Gilles is on after Federer's match at 7:00pm. Hopefully Fed will finish his quickly so I can watch it.

lalaland
02-21-2011, 07:49 PM
Great schedule, that's the time of the day I can't watch, save me the agony ;).

But who knows, maybe, just maybe... Allez Gilles.

MsTree
02-21-2011, 08:30 PM
It's no good for me either, but I'll record it and hopefully have something nice to watch when I come home :)

Boomer23
02-22-2011, 09:58 AM
I'll be in front of my screen and maybe I'm foolish, but I really believe he can do it !

Go Gilles !

FlameOn
02-22-2011, 10:10 AM
Allez Gillou! It's not like Gillou lacks the game to beat him.

Silver.
02-22-2011, 05:33 PM
Is everyone out or something? I have good news! :p Gilles got the first set and just broke in the second! But..i'm not getting my hopes up too much yet. Just because of the H2H and the fact Youzhny took it in 3 last week. But ALLEZ!!!! :D

It's 6-3, *1-0 15-0

Unfortunately.. I have to go out myself now :(

Puschkin
02-22-2011, 05:44 PM
Gilles is getting it to Youzzhny, forcing error after error by sheer patience.

MsTree
02-22-2011, 06:15 PM
Oooh! Gilles :D Come on!!!

Break him then serve for the match!!!!!

MsTree
02-22-2011, 06:23 PM
:) :woohoo: :aparty: :D

BlueLighthouse
02-22-2011, 06:34 PM
:bigclap::bigclap::bigclap:

Finally! Gilles got the monkey off his back.

:smooch: :smooch: :smooch:


(though Misha was playing like crap today :secret: :p)

Boomer23
02-22-2011, 06:35 PM
I knew he could do it ! I'm very happy !

Next match should be pretty easy, GO gilles !

Silver.
02-22-2011, 06:36 PM
:bigclap: :bounce: Nobody beats Gilles 8 times in a row!! :hearts:

Scotso
02-22-2011, 06:52 PM
:bigclap: :bounce: Nobody beats Gilles 8 times in a row!! :hearts:

:D

soulage
02-22-2011, 06:54 PM
The eigth was the good one :lol: :worship:

turtle-rn
02-22-2011, 06:57 PM
Traditor.

Gilles :D Misha :hug:

Kezzi
02-22-2011, 07:43 PM
Allez Gilou!!! :bounce: :woohoo: :aparty:

Puschkin
02-22-2011, 08:16 PM
I knew he could do it !
So did I. :D It was not beautiful, but a win is a win. BTW: I could not stop thinking this could work perfectly against Melzer, too.

Boomer23
02-22-2011, 08:35 PM
yes, it wasn't his best match, not that enjoyable to watch, bur he won, and after a 7-0 in the face, that's really all I wanted no matter how, but it was weird seeing him so passive, looked like monfils in his worst days lol

lalaland
02-22-2011, 10:50 PM
:woohoo: he won.

Didn't watch. So it's not pretty? who cares. He tried everything for 7 times and nothing worked. So if playing ugly can help him overcomes his nemesis, so be it.

Allez Gilles.

lalaland
02-23-2011, 05:09 AM
Post-match itw from Gilles and Misha:

Gilles Simon
DUBAI, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
G. SIMON/M. Youzhny
6-3, 7-5

THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.

Q. Many congratulations. Your reaction to the win against MIkhail, a seeded player here.
GILLES SIMON: I'm happy because he's a very good player. He's No. 11 now, and it's always good victory. When you play someone at this ranking, you know that it's going to be very hard.
But I'm also happy because I lost seven times against him in a row. Really, when I woke up this morning it was hard for me to imagine that I will play one more match tomorrow. I really played just this match as a final for me. Because I managed to just to focus on to win the match, and trying to forget everything else.
I did it pretty well. Because even if I think we didn't play a very good match, very good tennis, well, I won. (Smiling.) I know that all the other times, sometimes I was playing good, but at the end I lost every time the match.
So that's a very, very good victory for me.

Q. To Mikhail's credit, he said that the previous games you had played had always been very close. This victory, it must give you confidence to beat a player of his caliber for the matches to come.
GILLES SIMON: Well, I think this victory really is not -- it's different. It's very important for me to win this match not because of the next round or everything or this tournament. It's just important because there is -- I mean, it's not too much player on the tour you are always losing to.
So he was one of them, and it was not the match the most important we played. Even if it's a very beautiful tournament and a big tournament, it's still the first round. But I know that now if I play him, maybe in slam, maybe somewhere else on an important match, it will be easier, because I finally shake his hand at the end winning the match.

Q. What was the difference today between the other seven matches, do you think?
GILLES SIMON: Well, last week I was -- I think I had a good chance to win last week, but I was really not prepared. I had problem with my neck in Rotterdam, and I had to stop. I couldn't practice as I wanted to. I just played 40 minutes on Monday and one hour on Tuesday, and then played the first round against Davydenko on Wednesday. I managed to win the match and it was very good, and I also was not expecting it. Because when you don't practice, normally you don't win. (Smiling.)
And then against MIkhail second round, I won 6-3 the first set; I think I was playing better than him, and then I got tired. It was because I have to run a lot against him, as you could see at the end. Physically I dropped down a little bit, and finally I lost the match again.
But it was better, I mean, on the court, and it gives me a little bit confidence for today, I think. So I was not -- I can't even say I'm not upset, because normally I see his name on the draw, I (hanging head).

Q. That bad?
GILLES SIMON: When you lose two, three times, and then when it's four, five, six, seven, that's why I said I played it as a final for me. Just focus on this match.

Q. Just more broadly, you have Federer and Djokovic in this tournament obviously. You've been up to No. 6 and fallen back, right? Just speaking for a lot of the players, I mean, at least in America when we think of tennis we think of the top 4. These days, how is it for you to think about breaking into the top 5 or even the top 10? Is it much more difficult than when you started out? You've always been playing with Federer, kind of up there. How does it feel to always know there's kind of a ceiling and it's very difficult to get past these guys in the rankings, even in the tournaments. Talk about that a little bit.
GILLES SIMON: Well, you just have to check the ranking -- not the ranking, but the points. That's what impressive. I think Nadal has more point than all the players from maybe 7 to 20. At the moment he has, I don't know, 14,000 points, something like.
You can make the difference, because every time you double your points, your ATP points, you almost double your ranking. So when you are -- maybe you need, I don't know, 400 points to be in the top 100, then if you have 800 points you are top 50. When you can see Nadal has 14 times your point, he is very, very better than you. Far better.

Q. Do the top 20 guys, is it kind of you don't even think about becoming top 5? I mean, the goals are less because you know that...
GILLES SIMON: Well, think there is a good opportunity to be in the top 20. I got injured when I was 7; still in Roland Garros I had the problem with my knee. Then I dropped down, and I finally stopped six months. So after you have to work your ranking.
I think since I played in Eastbourne last year, I played as a top 20 player because I had a lot of point to defend. I managed to finish the season something like 34, 33, and I won 1000 points on six months.
So I had some good victories against Roddick, Nalbandian , some good player. So there is a spot here. I know it. I know that I am playing good. I know that I can defeat also players like Youzhny.
And then you're right, there is now the top 5 I can say, because Robin is playing one level, I mean, up to the other guys also.
I think first I have to come back in the top 20.

Q. So for you...
GILLES SIMON: I managed to defeat them, all of them. I had one victory against Rafa; two against Roger; one against Novak; one against Andy; maybe two against Soderling. So I managed to defeat them, but they are far better than me. You just have to check the results.
But first I have to brought my confidence back. And to be in the top 20, top 16 is important also for the slams because if I play them after one good match, two, or three, then you are feeling good also in the tournaments and everything, you have more confidence because you won more match, and it's easier.
I can tell you I lost last year against Novak in Davis Cup the final; Nadal third round also US Open; and Murray third round Wimbledon. I lost three times three sets straight, and I was not confident.
In Wimbledon I played just the tournament before, so when you play these players, you know, you play centre court, the crowd are cheering for them and everything. So first it's hard on the court.
Rafa it was the same. He was playing amazing and he was far better me.
Novak also in the Davis Cup was also far better than me.
The other time I lost to them before when I got a better ranking, I lost to them also, but it was tighter, you know. Because when you have more confidence, then you are not scared about what's going to happen.
That's what happened against Roger this year. I won Sydney; I won the first round in the Australian Open; I played him, and I played without fear. I lost five sets. Was closer.
So that's why you have to work the ranking first, and then if you can, try to defeat them. But sometimes you defeat one of them and then you win a big tournament, and, wow, gives you confidence and things are changing like this. (Snapping fingers).
I mean, you take Robin before the final in Roland Garros the first time. Who was expecting him finishing the season and playing one more season after like this? Nobody. Even not him. He played the tournament, he defeated Nadal, and then (snapping fingers) so...

Q. Is it a question of consistency for you, Gilles, sort of performing to your potential on a regular basis and staying healthy? Because you have the potential to beat very best as you just explained.
GILLES SIMON: First I have to be consistent on the game and healthy also outside. It's very hard to reach the top 10. The season I did for me was wonderful in 2008, defeating all the three best player in the world the same season.
And then you got injured the year after, and all what you did, you forget it. Because when you come back, you don't know if you're going to make it. Maybe just see Juan Martin Del Potro. We will see. Maybe he will come back, maybe not.
But it's very hard to get there. So when you are there, you have to be careful about everything. I think I was not so injured before this season. It was my first big injury, and, you know, it's two years after you cannot play. I finish the season as I could. Finishing 15, it was good, but I was feeling I was not playing as good as before.
Then I stop, I finish 30, and now I will have the ranking I must have in July, because I have to wait one full year to have all the tournaments, because Monte-Carlo and everything, you know, zero, zero, zero, zero, and it's in my ranking.
So then first I will have to be there, you know, for the draws, for everything. Then (snapping fingers) if I play good, if I'm more confident, trying to reach the top 10 again.


Mikhail Youzhny

DUBAI, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
G. SIMON/M. Youzhny
6-3, 7-5
THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.

Q. Your reaction to the straight-sets defeat this evening? You must be quite disappointed to have lost.
MIKHAIL YOUZHNY: Yeah, of course I'm not happy. When I lost I cannot be happy. It's tennis. Sometimes you win; sometimes you lose.
So today it was not best match for me, but actually Simon played good.

Q. You obviously had a winning record against him, 7-nil up. What were you trying to do out there? What did Gilles do which caused you trouble tonight?
MIKHAIL YOUZHNY: When I go to play new match, I never think about what's happened before. You know, we don't have a big different? Yeah, it's 7-0. Yeah, before I won seven matches. But, you know, I can lose before two, three matches also, maybe four.
All matches was very close. So before I win; today, he win.

Q. There were times where it was a bit nip and tuck and you are obviously quite well matched. Do you think it was only small margins here and there? On another day you might have taken it to a third? How do you see it?
MIKHAIL YOUZHNY: I tell you already. It's new match it's like new life. You never know what's happens in new match. I played not bad previous weeks. I just came from Marseilles, and looks like was not enough to play from indoor to outdoor like one and a half day.
So it's like maybe I was not really focused during the long points. Sometimes I play good, three, four, maybe five shots, and after I make mistake because during the point a lot of time I missed the ball.

Q. Obviously it's different conditions from Marseille; the court is faster as well. It's quite fast. Is it difficult to acclimatize to the court?
MIKHAIL YOUZHNY: Yeah, it's not easy, but I know before the tournament it could be like this. If you play good Marseilles, you will have tough first matches in Dubai. Doesn't matter against whom you're going to play.
That's why it was my decision. I knew about it's could happen like today.

Q. Is this the best he played against you?
MIKHAIL YOUZHNY: No, I think it was not the best of our matches. We both just start to play outside after Marseilles. Maybe he has some days more; I have some days less.
But I think it was not best tennis from our side.

Kezzi
02-23-2011, 09:31 AM
I hope Gilles can look at his ranking and snap his fingers very soon. :D

Silver.
02-23-2011, 12:51 PM
"Really, when I woke up this morning it was hard for me to imagine that I will play one more match tomorrow. I really played just this match as a final for me. Because I managed to just to focus on to win the match, and trying to forget everything else. I did it pretty well. Because even if I think we didn't play a very good match, very good tennis, well, I won. (Smiling.) " :devil: :hearts:

I didn't care how Gilles won this match, as he said perhaps he played more aggressive or "prettier" in the past against him, but it hasn't worked. Now he's won it will give him self confidence :D

Silver.
02-23-2011, 05:52 PM
Simon beat Rosol 6-2, 6-3. He was broken in the first and second set but obviously got breaks back. First serve a wee bit dodgy in the first - 37% :unsure: but 57% in the second.

He is playing Gasquet on centre court after Federer's match not before 7:00pm. Great time for me :D I hope it's a good match, would love a Fed vs. Simon rematch again, I know it makes Fedtards worried :devil:

Allez Gilles!

MsTree
02-23-2011, 10:13 PM
Good for Gilles! Now time to redress another h2h anomaly :devil:

I'll miss it though :( Effing work :o

Scotso
02-24-2011, 06:48 AM
I'll get to watch him on TV tomorrow. :D

turtle-rn
02-24-2011, 07:29 AM
You mean if he makes the semis? (talk about jinx of death! >_<)

Silver.
02-24-2011, 05:41 PM
Gilles 1 set up, great match so far IMO! I'm really enjoying it :D I feel he's playing pretty well! ALLEZ!

Silver.
02-24-2011, 05:56 PM
Level has dropped in the second :( break down at 1-3

lalaland
02-24-2011, 06:08 PM
What is wrong with him :rolleyes:
He just isn't there in the 2nd, UEs everywhere.
Better re-set himself in the 3rd or else.

Allez Gilles.

MsTree
02-24-2011, 06:25 PM
Come on!!!!! :D

Silver.
02-24-2011, 06:35 PM
Whats going on Gilles :confused: :sad:

lalaland
02-24-2011, 06:36 PM
Broken :mad:. Probably deserved it though. Bad attitude, he's encouraging Richard to play well. Losing his head playing Richard, that's laughable.

Anyway, still has a chance to get back. C'mon Gilles.

MsTree
02-24-2011, 06:42 PM
Cmon Gilles, break him!!!!!

MsTree
02-24-2011, 06:49 PM
Damn! :o

soulage
02-24-2011, 06:52 PM
Gilles was very talktative in the last set :lol: match de merde on peut pas jouer tu touches la balle et tu fais faute :lol:

lalaland
02-24-2011, 06:55 PM
Lost. I'm mad at him :mad:, not because he lost but the way he lost it is maddening. What's wrong with him, losing his head completely, he made Richard looks like a mental giant, that's quite an achievement. No offense to Richard, he deserves the win since he played very well.

And he just turned himself to another player's pigeon, well done Gilles :rolleyes:.

Silver.
02-24-2011, 07:11 PM
Disappointing, wanted a Fed rematch :sad: ...Gilles :hug: QF was a good result for this 500 imo, i expected him to go out first round. He's gonna do much better in the masters, he'll get his head together and go deep, I can feel it ;)

MsTree
02-24-2011, 07:15 PM
Good rant Lala I'm completely cheered up now :lol:

lalaland
02-24-2011, 07:22 PM
Thanks Les. Glad I did sth good ;).

Give me another 15 mins and my fury will go away and I'll probably come back and gives the lovely Gilly a hug for losing another Frenchie battle and got turned into a pigeon :p.

lalaland
02-24-2011, 07:49 PM
My fury is not subsiding :rolleyes: cos I feel like this loss is the first set back of the year :p.

Ah well, hopefully he's not as upset as me :o. He'll probably get over it, or maybe already over it. :hug: Gilles, bad loss but you need a hug no matter.

Damn, I just lost my will to work today :mad:, didn't help that I'm sitting in my living room since I got snowed in since yesterday. It's hard to do work in my PJ, but I must try harder since it's not even friday yet.

Well, anyway, rant over, I promise.

Silver.
02-24-2011, 07:56 PM
Try and cheer up Lala :p it could have been worse

(If anyone thinks i'm being too optimistic I think vented all my rage out when i was smacking the remote on my head ala Youznhy style after M.P ;) i'm not even joking :o I wanted him to win this bad, but i've cooled down)

MsTree
02-24-2011, 08:01 PM
OK here's a positive, it gives him longer to get used to clay :devil:

Silver.
02-24-2011, 08:05 PM
Another positive: I genuinely thought Gilles played some great tennis is the first. He just went a bit loopy later on...

lalaland
02-24-2011, 08:10 PM
Thank Silver. :hug:

Don't mind me, I'll be over it soon enough, just need to vent out the frustration by telling the world that I'm frustrated. :lol: I wanted him to win so much against Misha and I purposely missed that match cos I just can't bear to watch. Misha is in his head and he can't afford to lose to him anymore. I can almost understand that if he was facing Misha and he loses his cool and gave the match away. But I don't get that feeling about Richard, that makes it quite unacceptable to lose like that. But that's just me. He is pigeon to both, so maybe Richard is in his head, who knows.

lalaland
02-24-2011, 08:13 PM
Right, 2 positives, I wish I can think of anything to add to the list... Maybe now he has enough time to have a pit-stop at home to see the little one to recharge before moving on to enemy territory.

Puschkin
02-24-2011, 08:17 PM
so maybe Richard is in his head.
That's exactly the reason and - PLEASE, don't get me wrong, I am neither triumphant nor condescending. Richard has an excellent record against other Frenchies and there is a reason for that - going back to junior times. Besides, it is not so easy to turn a negative H/H around. So you should be more positive about Giilles in Dubai, he settled accounts with Youzhny and this will do him good.

lalaland
02-24-2011, 08:50 PM
That's exactly the reason and - PLEASE, don't get me wrong, I am neither triumphant nor condescending. Richard has an excellent record against other Frenchies and there is a reason for that - going back to junior times. Besides, it is not so easy to turn a negative H/H around. So you should be more positive about Giilles in Dubai, he settled accounts with Youzhny and this will do him good.


Misha was bad, and Gilles needs that to win. I said that before in their other encounters, he needs a bad day from Misha to beat him, he got it. If you read his post-itw, he knew he didn't do much, but all he did was to not fold first like he always did against Misha (I remembered Toronto, and Valencia :o, Misha weren't good at all, but Gilles just couldn't get over it in his head). That was all good, that made me think he's really feeling a little bit more confident than he was and I think a bit of that confident came from the Marseille match. Hence, I was expecting that bit of confident boost will carry him to this match, but apparently it didn't. That's where the disappointment is.

I really didn't think I'm negative in general. Despite the 2 quick exits in Rotterdam and Marseille, I was convinced that it won't affect him a tiny bit. So to me, this is a bad loss. And PLEASE don't take it as I want to discredit Richard, because I'm not. He was impressive and deserved the win. But Gilles won the first set, he wasn't in much danger at the beginning of the 2nd, and then he just saw that Richard picked it up a bit and suddenly he cracked. I don't understand, that's all. Sure, there's a 0-4 history, but at least he had beaten Richard before, eventhough it didn't show on the HtoH, but he already knew he can, so why cracked. I'm not buying that Richard is in his head. And if that's the case, I don't understand why either. I never felt that he was intimidated by Richard, but I can clearly see that he was by Misha/Mika and even Jo. So I think the lost of mental in a match like this is unreasonable. Or maybe I'm unreasonable to think that he should have been able to keep it together. And if he had and he still lost, then I would have been able to accept that easily.

But anyway, I seldom dwell on losses, I don't think I do anyway. But this one kind of stinks, to me anyway.

Cloudygirl
02-24-2011, 10:45 PM
I don't suppose anyone has the match recorded do they?

Score was what I expected but I'd like to see how they each played.

MsTree
02-24-2011, 11:20 PM
I have it recorded but Myyra will prob upload it in HD, keep your eye on Tennishaven :)

Cloudygirl
02-24-2011, 11:24 PM
how do i use tennis haven :o:o

MsTree
02-24-2011, 11:38 PM
You just download the torrent file from the site, then set it running in a client program (I use utorrent (http://www.utorrent.com/)) Pm me if you get stuck :) Or if you need an invite :)

FlameOn
02-24-2011, 11:52 PM
Ugh...just saw the result on scoreboard. :help: Get it together Gillou. :(

Cloudygirl
02-25-2011, 06:04 AM
Need an invite!!

Have no idea what I'm doing.

Blackbriar
02-25-2011, 08:42 PM
The best player won and now it's 5-0.
And Simon even badmouthed Gasquet after the match just to add to his own humiliation.

lalaland
02-25-2011, 09:35 PM
:yeah: Ritchie, his first victory of the year against a top player! congrats, it was a tough one.

I found Gilles a bit disappointing in second set, he just gave up at 4-2. He tried to come to the net more often and that's pretty much all the UE he made, Gasquet was moonballing to death to avoid the counterattacks from Simon, he made lots of BH winners :) and lots of FH in the net :o He made his signature move in first set: DF on break point :o but he fought too, and fought again to win the third which was very tense. He saved 2 BPs in the last game.

Simon was so nervous, he had the match in his hands, Gasquet was clueless until half way in the second, but Simon gave away a game and then became so nervous, that he finally gave up.

Gilles only ranked 33 this week, and he is the highest ranked player Richard beat this year.
Well done Blackbriar, pretending to be a Gilles fan from time to time just so when you badmouth him, it almost sound legit :worship:. Hypocrisy at it's finest form. Please go back to Richard's forum to rave about his achievement ie his HtoH towards that great player Simon (your word, not mine), and other Frenchies, may as well while you're at it. And please respect the player forum rule to not come here to stir things up. :wavey: I know it's hard for you to understand what respect means, please try anyway.

BTW, are you saying that got beaten by Richard is humiliation? C'mon, Richard isn't that bad, is he? :p

Gillouthe best
02-25-2011, 10:06 PM
Blackbriar is 5-1, Gilles won in Sunrise meeting last year

lalaland
02-25-2011, 10:24 PM
Blackbriar is 5-1, Gilles won in Sunrise meeting last year

Challenger doesn't count, albeit just technicality, rather than quality of the tournament though, because Sunrise is easily higher quality than some ATP250 like Jo'burg, and that match wasn't like it was played when they were 17 or sth. Nevertheless, it is not a tour level, so don't count. Let's give Blackbriar that, since Richard's fans seem to rejoice by the fact that Gilles is 0-5 to Richard, maybe they don't have much thing to cheer about these days? :shrug:

lalaland
02-25-2011, 11:12 PM
BTW, to be fair, we should know what Gilles said:

« Je ne pense pas que Richard a fait un bon match, expliquait-il. On a fait un très, très mauvais match. Moi plus que lui, c’est tout. Devant sa télé, Guy ( Forget) a dû nous insulter et il aurait eu raison de le faire. Ça jouait tout doucement, dans le carré de service, c’était nul. Si “Ritchie” joue comme ça contre Federer en demi-finales, il va prendre une dérouillée. » L’histoire nous le dira. On veut bien entendre que Simon a détesté son match d’hier. Il n’a pas frappé un retour, encore moins une attaque. « Ici, entre le court très rapide et ces balles toutes pourries qui flottent, je n’arrive pas à jouer (Simon n’a pas attendu de perdre pour dire ça. Il disait exactement pareil après ses victoires contre Youzhny, sa bête noire qu’il a blanchie, et Rosol). Cette semaine, mon niveau était catastrophique. Ça fait sacrément longtemps que je ne m’étais pas senti si mal sur un tournoi. Au moins, ça m’évitera de me faire désosser par Federer.

A brief translation:
"I do not think Richard has made a good match,"he explained. It was a very, very poor match. Me more than him, that's all. In front of his TV Guy (Forget) had to insult us and he was right to do so. It was playing softly (conservatively, I think what he meant), in the service box, it was zero. If "Ritchie" plays like that against Federer in the semifinals, it will take a thrashing”. History will tell. We want to hear that Simon hated his match yesterday. He did not strike a return, let alone an attack. "Here, between runs very fast and the balls that float all rotten, I can not play (Simon did not wait to lose to say that (he didn’t only said that when he lost). He said exactly the same after his victories against Youzhny, his bête noire whom he bleached, and Rosol). This week, my level was abysmal. It's been damn long since I had not felt so bad on a tournament. At least that way, it will safe me from dissected by Federer.


I found Gilles a bit disappointing in second set, he just gave up at 4-2. He tried to come to the net more often and that's pretty much all the UE he made, Gasquet was moonballing to death to avoid the counterattacks from Simon, he made lots of BH winners and lots of FH in the net. He made his signature move in first set: DF on break point but he fought too, and fought again to win the third which was very tense. He saved 2 BPs in the last game.

Simon was so nervous, he had the match in his hands, Gasquet was clueless until half way in the second, but Simon gave away a game and then became so nervous, that he finally gave up.

Giles didn't say much different than what you said, though he didn’t mention Richard’s winners. Surely, he could have been more polished and not let his emotion got the better of him and say nice things about Richard, I’m sure some ppl like players to sugarcoat things. But he did play a very very bad match, both tactic and executions were bad, do you not agree? Gilles can be a sore loser sometimes, it’s embarrassing sometimes how not lucid he is, especially when he played so badly and furious with himself. He's no angel, his ego does get in the way. But it's quite right that if Richard moonballs Fed, it will end badly for him, don't you think? And Gilles were so bad that he didn’t do nothing to the ball when he wasn’t making UEs, that ends in a lot of open courts for Richard to put the winners in. Don’t think Fed will give him that much open court. Simon is no Federer, unlucky for Richard since Gilles also had bps when Richard served for the match but Gilles didn’t convert, that’s probably that 0-4 in Gilles head that gets in the way, just like that 1-7 in Richard’s head today that gets in Richard’s way, maybe?

The better player won yesterday, the better player won today. None of them are the best player, the best player is at home resting. The player who’s better on the day always win, did u not notice? They don't have to play well, just need to be better than their opponent, agree? unless, you think Bjorn Phau was the best player when he beat Richard at Chennai in Jan? Don’t think so.

I read Gilles’ response and I LMAO, he's quite a crybaby sometimes. Oh well, like I said, he’s no angel. And he is right to be furious with himself, even I was furious with him yesterday, that didn't happen all that much bcos I’m usually a very forgiving fan :angel:, and I'm soooooooo biased. :p

Silver.
02-26-2011, 12:12 AM
I can hardly understand the translation sorry :shrug:

Anyway, Blackbriar, no need to vent your disappointed that Gasquet was totally outplayed by an average Fed today here. You are not welcome. I haven't been around here for long, but I understand now that your support for Gilles was insincere. Also, the bad mouthing was furthering his humiliation? What humiliation? :haha: Think you just insulted your own player there.

On another note, never heard Gilles be a kind of sore loser, in my half a year of full support for him. New side, but, he played bad, he was frustrated, i'll let him off. Just get your head together Gilles, go see a shrink, get mentally strong again, keep practicing your serve, let the draw Gods be kind...and we shall see.

MsTree
02-26-2011, 12:49 AM
:lol: I see there's been a troll about! I prefered Richie21, this guy is just a pale imitation :devil:

Cloudygirl
02-26-2011, 01:16 AM
On another note, never heard Gilles be a kind of sore loser, in my half a year of full support for him. New side, but, he played bad, he was frustrated, i'll let him off. Just get your head together Gilles, go see a shrink, get mentally strong again, keep practicing your serve, let the draw Gods be kind...and we shall see.

to be fair and not wanting to fan the flames, Gilles does seem to hate giving Richard any credit when he beats him. I remember he gave him pretty much no credit for beating him at Sydney (well somewhere in Aus anyway) in 09 because I remember being really annoyed about it as I'm a fan of both. I'm sure if you checked back on the match threads you will find it.

lalaland
02-26-2011, 01:36 AM
I'm glad that the classy Misha fans didn't come to gloat every time Misha beat Gilles, or we'd see them camp out here :p.

Like I said, Gilles only rank 33 this week, and the way he played this week, you can hardly call him a top player. "O.K., je n’ai pas fait un point gagnant du fond, O.K., je n’ai pas dû traverser une balle, O. K., ce n’était pas un niveau fabuleux, mais je l’ai battu !". That's what he said about the Youzhny match. He didn't save a single bps in round 1 and 2, 0-1 against Youzhny and 0-2 against Rosol whoever he is. And as bad as he played yesterday, he still made it to 6-4 in the 3rd :p.

lalaland
02-26-2011, 02:05 AM
to be fair and not wanting to fan the flames, Gilles does seem to hate giving Richard any credit when he beats him. I remember he gave him pretty much no credit for beating him at Sydney (well somewhere in Aus anyway) in 09 because I remember being really annoyed about it as I'm a fan of both. I'm sure if you checked back on the match threads you will find it.

He is not a sore loser in general, but he is when he lost to Richard, Mika and Misha. I'm sure you read me saying that he is a sore loser sometimes when his ego got in the way, coincidentally that's when he loses to his nemesis. I called him a crybaby, I'm surely not defending him on that. Lost in Marseille to Mika 09 and lost to Misha in Tokyo 09, he didn't have any nice things to say about those matches either. Is he gracious in this loss? No. Surely, I wish he's perfect and always be as gracious as they come, but he isn't. Then I rather him be honest and not pretentious by saying good thing about others when he doesn't mean it. What I really want to say is that I think he was by no means disrespecting Richard. If you have read that itw on L'Equipe yesterday (that 6 questions), he has very nice things to say about Richard's ability on different surfaces, and that he sympathizes Richard's situation in DC. I'm saying that Gilles lost to the 3 guys a lot and it may be a little hard to take for him since he is sometimes accused of having a big ego. But normally, his post-matches analysis are usually lucid and reasonable, that's when his mind is clear and ego's not in the way.

He is no Richard, Richard is the least egolistic one amongst the 4 of them. But he's no Tsonga either :p.

And frankly, a lot of players and their fans give Gilles no credit when he beat them. I'm so used to that by now. Remember what some of them said when Gilles got to top 10? I'm annoyed too by those comments. I also remember you and other Richard fans gave no credit to Gilles when he beat Richard in Sunrise, because it was Richard who played badly according to you guys, who stood 3 meters behind the baseline...as if that's not the normal place he stand in most of his matches. I'm sorry and I don't want to be mean, but we should know that we are all biased toward our players, that's human nature. When there's a preference, it always shows.

And thanks to Blackbriar for coming here to stir things up, I think I may have offended a lot of Richard fans today. But really, I hate it when ppl pitch Richard against Gilles, or Gilles against Richard. They both have their strengths and weaknesses and are likable in their own way. I'm aware that I sometimes don't have nice things to say about Richard when others insist on comparing the 2 (one has to pick a side), but I cheer for Richard most of the time because I appreciate his talent and also sympathize with his situation (plus he beat Roddick from 2 sets down), besides, he is a nice guy and I know that. When one has such talent, it's hard to not cheer for him, hoping that he'll one day materialize them all. It can only be good if all talents managed to use their abilities to the maximium. And that's the reason I like Gilles bcos his talents lie in his intelligence, tenacity and determination, and he manages to achieve a lot of things with them. I can only wish that others will know how to appreciate him. Gilles got to Top 6 and stayed in top 10 for a considerable amount of time, not a whole lot of players can say that, so it amused me that some ppl keep insisting that he is lesser than the other players who achieved less. But that's opinions and they are subjective. Only facts are objective so I believe in them.

It's quite appropriate that I like Gilles, because I'm also very talkative and probably should be accused of talking too much :o

Cloudygirl
02-26-2011, 09:01 AM
I wasn't quoting you I was quoting Silver (what is your name btw) who said that they'd never heard of Gilles being a sore loser. It does happen sometimes.

I wish Richard had more ego (any chance Jo could loan him some). I think there is an element of needing it. You need an element of ego to be a champion. I mean Rafa might be all humble but your not telling me he thinks he isn't number 1 player on clay for instance.

I don't think that Gilles likes losing to Richard because Richard has worked out how to play him smart (which for Richard is unusual these days lol) and Gilles likes to out smart players so I think it annoys him.

Gilles has come up with a few quite funny presser quotes over the years where I think he isn't entirely honest with himself but who is?!

Also re sunrise sorry I hold my opinion Richard was horrendously awful, but I still credit Gilles with the win. He's a lot better mentally than Richard!

As for Blackbriar been on my ignore list for ages now. It's a good feeling ;)


PS Les I don't understand tennis haven at all. I'm a totally dunce with video streams etc I will PM you when I get back later.

lalaland
02-26-2011, 07:12 PM
I wasn't quoting you

Sorry Tori, I did notice that, but that's after I wrote the whole reply, then i was too lazy to bother to make changes. I should have changed my tone to get the points across. I didn't feel the need to change the points though, I stand by them. Once again, apologize if i offended you. Sometimes I'm a bit hotheaded, please do tell me when I'm too much.

lalaland
02-26-2011, 07:43 PM
@Lalaland, why do you answer to Blackbriar?
cos it was fun.

Finally, really, it's caricatural that say "Richard is a great talent whereas Gilles not but tenacity, mental and intelligent game let him to achieve more than people expected"...


:confused: I didn't say that, don't twist my words. Saying Richard is a great talent does not mean saying Gilles isn't. Saying Gilles has tenacity...does not mean he has no other attributes, saying he has achieved a lot does not means he did more than ppl expected, nor does it mean he won't continue to achieve more. Why are you reading everything like one is mutually exclusive to the other?

Are you the one who was accusing me of not being a real Gilles fan before? If you are, please, my request to you still stands, "IGNORE" me. I gave up, I can't write any more clear than I already had to explain myself. If you are not, then I'm sorry for mistaken you.

Cloudygirl
02-26-2011, 07:59 PM
Talent is this undefinable thing.

If shot making is "talent" then Richard has it in spades but physicality is also a talent isn't it and mental ability might not be seen as a talent but it's vital. Plus Gilles has one of the best running backhands I've ever seen. I'd rather watch Richard on an on day than Gilles because Richard's all court game can be stunning but love both for different reasons.

Silver.
03-04-2011, 04:14 PM
Gilles on against koubek now. On serve 1-0. I want Gilles to be more aggressive against koubek...get his confidence up