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misty1
06-21-2011, 12:22 PM
1 win against an okay player wont change my mind about her

she got lucky with the draw and even still it was iffy that she'd win today, tells you how bad she is

she has no chance in hell against petkovic

156mphserve
06-21-2011, 12:28 PM
doesn't matter if she has a chance in hell against petkovic, round 2 is better than half the players playing:D

but yeah I see what you mean, that being said she won very easily today

Ravel
06-21-2011, 12:34 PM
a win's a win. That's all I'm gonna say

misty1
06-21-2011, 01:09 PM
what gets me so upset is, as i've said before this gets her closer to the top 100 and she's just not top 100 material the fact that she hasnt even cracked 20 main tour wins in her career and yet she's been on for how long? says that for itself

even as a canadian i'd be upset if she finished the year top 100

with that said it looks as though canadians aill go 4-1 in round 1 with the only loser being wozniak who went down in straights to barbora zahlavova strycova.That was probably expected anyway since aleks has never beaten her before

letshavefun3
06-21-2011, 01:17 PM
Diez is the #8 seed in a Futures event in Morocco.

Ravel
06-21-2011, 01:21 PM
I can only see it as a good thing, we have kids at the NTC looking up at the Canadians winning matches in the main draw of a grand slam. It can only motivate them in that they can maybe get there one day. And they don't necessarily need to be a prodigy or anything to get that done.

Who cares if they're in the top 100 or if they're 750, it's pretty cool and nice seeing a Canadian winning these matches.

Snowwy
06-21-2011, 02:31 PM
what gets me so upset is, as i've said before this gets her closer to the top 100 and she's just not top 100 material the fact that she hasnt even cracked 20 main tour wins in her career and yet she's been on for how long? says that for itself

even as a canadian i'd be upset if she finished the year top 100

with that said it looks as though canadians aill go 4-1 in round 1 with the only loser being wozniak who went down in straights to barbora zahlavova strycova.That was probably expected anyway since aleks has never beaten her before

Lots of players make the top 100 with less than 20 MD wins. They are AAAA players in baseball for example, its not that rare. On the ATP, check out Warner Eschauer for example.

misty1
06-21-2011, 02:40 PM
true, but that doesnt mean its a good thing

Snowwy
06-21-2011, 03:03 PM
true, but that doesnt mean its a good thing

If they work hard and can be consistently successful at the challenger level in an age where the odds are stacked against challenger players, I think that shows that they are a good player and the ranking is deserved.

misty1
06-21-2011, 03:51 PM
she is where she belongs, she's a solid challenger player but you throw her against most of the top 100 or at least any consistent top 100 player and she'll lose

until she improves things she is exactly where she should be, around the 130 range

Ravel
06-21-2011, 09:04 PM
Raonic and Marino matches will be on tsn.ca tomorrow if anyone wants to watch :)

ESimp
06-21-2011, 10:04 PM
PLD wins 6-3 6-3 in first round of the Guadalajara Challenger!

Good result and expected result vs Gonzales!

letshavefun3
06-21-2011, 10:45 PM
PLD wins 6-3 6-3 in first round of the Guadalajara Challenger!

Good result and expected result vs Gonzales!

Duclos was a LL so great job to take advantage of the second chance!

156mphserve
06-22-2011, 08:33 PM
I think Steph proved she deserved that LL spot in her match against Petkovic, played unbelievable, if she hasn't mentality left for 3 games in that 3rd set I believe shed woulda won, played a better overall match than petkovic did

misty1
06-22-2011, 08:55 PM
she suprised me for sure, i was expecting a straight forward win for petko

but she needs to play like that more than once in a while and if she could i could change my mind about her

FormerRafaFan
06-22-2011, 10:08 PM
what happened to Vasek?!?! did he play? did he win?

Emeraldhands
06-22-2011, 10:14 PM
I think it might be raining there. Diez made the Quarters in Morocco, seems to always play well there for some reason.

Emeraldhands
06-23-2011, 01:22 AM
Krainik lost in the second round, but hopefully he can work from this result.

Dudisela75
06-23-2011, 08:23 PM
PLD through to the quarters of Guadalajara with a 6:3 3:6 6:3 win over Begemann. Carlos Salamanca up next.

Emeraldhands
06-23-2011, 10:44 PM
Nice win for PLD, he saved like 7 break points in his first two service games. I think the first three games took over 20 minutes. Good result for him especially since he is taking advantage of a LL spot.

Diez is into the semi-finals in Morocco, I have no idea if it's coincidence or not but he seems to be following the same trend as last year. This year he won a title like a week before last year's title came off his points and last year he made the SF in Morocco F3 which was about the same time as this tournament this year.

Blarghman
06-24-2011, 12:59 AM
Duclos :cool: Well done for him, should give him a real rankings boost, regardless what happens.

Snowwy
06-24-2011, 02:09 AM
Happy for PLD.

Snowdon
06-24-2011, 04:58 PM
I'm happy for Steven :)
Hope he'll be able to go to the final :)

ESimp
06-25-2011, 01:31 AM
PLD into the SF with a 6-2 6-7 6-3 win over the number 4 seed!! :)

Emeraldhands
06-25-2011, 01:42 AM
We thought there would be a Canadian in the semis we just got the wrong one,LOL!!!

156mphserve
06-25-2011, 01:53 AM
Good for PLD, but I'm still frustrated with Vasek and the Rain Delay which probably affected his result:sad:

Emeraldhands
06-25-2011, 02:27 AM
Vasek had no business losing this match, just hate it when someone dominates a match and then loses

Emeraldhands
06-25-2011, 02:27 AM
C'mon Souza won about 20 percent of his return points

156mphserve
06-25-2011, 02:50 AM
C'mon Souza won about 20 percent of his return points

Souza wons 29% of return points, Vasek won 24% of his returnpoints:spit:

Vasek only won 3 return points in set 1 before the TB in set 1, and never broke Souza the entire match:p

but I do feel the rain screwed up vasek's rythym, and with 2 straight DF after the delay that's hard to argue, serving a deuce is sure a tough way to retun from a delay:sad:

PLD in the semis, do he get a SE for the american CH next week then?

letshavefun3
06-25-2011, 07:02 PM
Steven Diez lost to #1 seed Viola in the SF 6-4 6-2. He also lost in the SF in doubles as well.

Emeraldhands
06-25-2011, 07:20 PM
Duclos should probably get the an SE for Winnetka.

Sorry about that misinformation about Souza return points. Played better then I thought.

d_s
06-25-2011, 10:22 PM
Either PLD retired at 7-7 in the second set TB or he has made it to his first career Challenger final! The scoreboard got stuck at 7-7 and now the match is gone with the next match up so I'm guessing he won. Score was 7-5 7-6.

I'm pretty sure this guarantees his SE for next week's challenger. I wasn't sure before since the Winnetka qualy draw isn't out yet so I thought they might still make him play qualies if he had lost today. I'm guessing if he's still planning to play Winnetka he'll get in with the SE now. What a week it's been for PLD!

Dudisela75
06-25-2011, 11:41 PM
Great stuff from Duclos. Good Luck to him in the finals.

Ravel
06-25-2011, 11:46 PM
good for him. He's far from his Career high so all these wins definitely help :yeah:

Emeraldhands
06-26-2011, 03:10 AM
Did anyone see this coming? Man he was just as bad as Peter this year and then boom. I guess that LL game him a kick in the rear end. Hopefully Peter is next to get out of his funk.

letshavefun3
06-26-2011, 06:36 AM
So as we know PLD is in the singles final but he is also in the doubles final against Vasek!

big_j_tennis
06-26-2011, 11:20 AM
Great result for PLD this week!!

big_j_tennis
06-26-2011, 11:30 AM
A few of the NTC guys(and girls) were playing in a big open tournament in Quebec this week. the level is pretty good, since there are former pros such as Philip Gubenco and Mattew Akman, and other very solid players like Julien Gauthier, Kéziel Juneau, Jean-François Bérard, Nick Savage-Pollock,etc. Di Feo, Monette, Trkulja were the NTC guys that were there. Trkulja lost by walkover in the Quarterfinals, where he was set to play Monette. He had beaten Savage-Pollock before that. Both Di Feo and Monette lost to Gubenco, Hugo in the quarters and Sam in the Semis.

I personnally think it is good for the juniors players to play these types of tournaments once in a while, because they get to play some pretty good players, and even though the level is lower than futures of ITFs, they get some wins, and the gameplay is different than in the juniors. (by the way, they also had some of the girls play in the qualifying of this tournament...)

Dudisela75
06-26-2011, 04:19 PM
PLD gets his SE to Winnetka next week. He plays Raven Klassen in the first round. Possible second round match with Brian Dabul.

misty1
06-26-2011, 07:17 PM
A few of the NTC guys(and girls) were playing in a big open tournament in Quebec this week. the level is pretty good, since there are former pros such as Philip Gubenco and Mattew Akman, and other very solid players like Julien Gauthier, Kéziel Juneau, Jean-François Bérard, Nick Savage-Pollock,etc. Di Feo, Monette, Trkulja were the NTC guys that were there. Trkulja lost by walkover in the Quarterfinals, where he was set to play Monette. He had beaten Savage-Pollock before that. Both Di Feo and Monette lost to Gubenco, Hugo in the quarters and Sam in the Semis.

I personnally think it is good for the juniors players to play these types of tournaments once in a while, because they get to play some pretty good players, and even though the level is lower than futures of ITFs, they get some wins, and the gameplay is different than in the juniors. (by the way, they also had some of the girls play in the qualifying of this tournament...)

how did the girls fair?

i think PLD lost 7-5, 6-1 to paul capdeville in the final. The scoreboard has been stuck for a while but paul was up 40-0 and 5-1

Snowwy
06-26-2011, 07:20 PM
He lost 75 61. Still 60 points this week is great for him and his first challenger final, out of no where really.

big_j_tennis
06-26-2011, 09:09 PM
how did the girls fair?

i think PLD lost 7-5, 6-1 to paul capdeville in the final. The scoreboard has been stuck for a while but paul was up 40-0 and 5-1

Elisabeth Abanda and Elianne Douglas-Miron both were in the qualifying. Abanda won a round easily and went down 63-60 to the sixth seed, a junior from quebec. Douglas-Miron had a bye, won her second round in a very tough match, and lost (in the final qualifying round) to the fourth seed in three sets: 67-76-57. Actually Valerie Tetreault was in the main draw, and she lost in the first round to DiFeo 64-60.

Snowwy
06-26-2011, 10:18 PM
Can we see all the results on any site?

big_j_tennis
06-26-2011, 11:26 PM
Can we see all the results on any site?

I don't know if everyone has access to this site, but here are the draws.

Main draw:
http://baseline.computan.com/clientedraws/SDM4.aspx?Info=nFgxRbY2vMYDX8KmbtjApVu7yH50MMCNdUg 14Fi+%2fp9Xh94S3Mlwaw==

Qualifying:
http://baseline.computan.com/clientedraws/SDM4.aspx?Info=nFgxRbY2vMbuhF8ZPP%2f%2fQ6MNI3XITPH 0kQ%2fqzPwNCZ6pCT4bcGg1Hg==

ibreak4coffee
06-27-2011, 03:33 AM
Great to see such a positive result from Duclos :yeah:

Speaking of Quebec tennis, I was on the same flight as Stephanie Dubois back from London today. Of all the people, somehow I was in line behind her - what are the odds. She's hot in person - wish I had said something :hearts:

Blarghman
06-27-2011, 03:53 AM
Duclos :cool: Excellent, and very surprising week for him. Hopefully he can build on it and get back to being a regular MD challenger level player.

d_s
06-27-2011, 09:02 PM
Canadians in Action (June 27 Week)

Winnetka Challenger ($50k)
Q Round 1
Kamil Pajkowski def John Valenti 6-3 6-2
Q Round 2
[8]Michael Shabaz def Kamil Pajkowski 6-1 6-1
Round 1
Vasek Pospisil def (WC)Evan King 6-4 6-2
(SE)Pierre-Ludovic Duclos def Raven Klaasen 7-6(5) 6-2
Philip Bester def (Q)Bradley Klahn 7-6(3) 6-2
Round 2
Vasek Pospisil vs [5]Bobby Reynolds
(SE)Pierre-Ludovic Duclos vs (WC)Robby Ginepri or [6]Brian Dabul
Philip Bester vs [7]Paul Capdeville

Doubles Round 1
Kumar/Pajkowski vs [1]Huey/Reynolds
Duclos/Kuznetsov vs [2]Kerr/Parrott

Germany F7 ($15k+H)
Round 1
Erik Chvojka vs [1]Bastian Knittel

Doubles Round 1
Chvojka/Klein vs Luetjen/Thiemann

Italy F16 ($15k)
Q Round 1
[16]Pavel Krainik def Oskaras Kalinauskas 6-3 6-1
Q Final Round
[3]Marco Bortolotti def [16]Pavel Krainik 7-5 7-5

Doubles Round 1
Della Tommasina/Sinicropi def Krainik/Turini 7-6(3) 7-6(4)

Romania F4 ($10k)
Round 1
[3]Steven Diez vs (Q)Libor Salaba

Doubles Round 1
[2]Diez/Giner vs Coman/Daescu

USA F16 ($10k)
Q Round 1
[3]Ahmed El Tabakh vs BYE
Sheharyar Wali def David Neitzel 6-1 6-0
Brayden Schnur def Michael Murray 6-4 7-6(2)
Blaze M Schwartz def Alexandre Latychev 6-4 6-1
Q Round 2
[3]Ahmed El Tabakh def Andrew Giuffrida 6-1 6-2
Leonardo Nahar def Sheharyar Wali 6-4 7-5
Brayden Schnur def Artiom Podgainii 6-2 6-0
Q Round 3
[3]Ahmed El Tabakh def Michael Zhu 6-4 6-3
Brayden Schnur def [5]David Emery 1-6 7-6(5) 6-3
Q Final Round
[3]Ahmed El Tabakh def Jose Hernandez 5-7 7-6(6) 2-1 ret.
Brayden Schnur def Juan Rocha 6-1 6-0
Round 1
(Q)Ahmed El Tabakh vs [1]Jesse Levine
(Q)Brayden Schnur vs Gabriel Moraru

Emeraldhands
06-27-2011, 09:08 PM
Great to gave Brayden Qualify, I think he is following a path similar to Bester in that he is now training in Florida I believe?

Snowwy
06-27-2011, 09:49 PM
Thanks so much ds

FormerRafaFan
06-27-2011, 10:09 PM
Brayden is living in Florida, right? Is he playing for Canada or USA?

Emeraldhands
06-28-2011, 12:48 AM
Let's hope it doesn't end up like Levine a few years back.

Blarghman
06-28-2011, 01:28 AM
Tough luck for El Tabakh to go through all those qualy matches and to get such a tough draw in round 1.

Hopefully the boys can have a good week in Winnetka :)

ibreak4coffee
06-28-2011, 07:34 PM
Duclos won 76 62 against Klaasen today :yeah:

Blarghman
06-29-2011, 02:37 AM
PLD :yeah: Can't see him beating the Dabul-Ginepri winner, but hopefully he can press on with this out-of-nowhere form.

Emeraldhands
06-29-2011, 01:12 PM
Having a great couple of weeks that is for sure.

Emeraldhands
06-29-2011, 01:13 PM
Will most likely get a wild card for Granby if he decides to go there

letshavefun3
06-29-2011, 07:21 PM
Ginepri def Duclos 6-3 6-2

FormerRafaFan
06-29-2011, 07:23 PM
Bad week for the Canadians again, with both Vasek and PLD out :(

ESimp
06-29-2011, 07:31 PM
Not surprised with the results today.

PLD, Vasek and Phil all had good first round draws but would have to play at the top of there games to get past Rd 2. They all drew tough opponents for Rd 2.

Snowwy
06-29-2011, 08:22 PM
Bad week for the Canadians again, with both Vasek and PLD out :(

Can tell we have a bandwagoner here. Check out the Canadian results in 2007 or 2008 and tell me this is a bad week.

tommyg6
06-29-2011, 08:43 PM
PLD and Vasek are becoming my favorite Canucks. PLD deserves a main draw WC for the Rogers Cup this summer. At one point, he was Canada #3. He is underrated in these boards.

Snowwy
06-29-2011, 10:01 PM
PLD and Vasek are becoming my favorite Canucks. PLD deserves a main draw WC for the Rogers Cup this summer. At one point, he was Canada #3. He is underrated in these boards.

Over who? The fact that he didn't get one in 2009 when you are right, he was the #3 ranked Canadian says it all. That year bot he and Milos got QD WCs. Milos beat Gabashvili and Llodra to qualify as an 18 year old. Duclos lost badly 62 62. He doesn't represent Canada in DC, he doesn't play much in Canada.

Guaranteed

Frank Dancevic
Vasek Pospisil

Very Likely

Phillip Bester
Peter Polansky

Possible Surprises

Steven Diez
Erik Chvojka

Others

PL Duclos

letshavefun3
06-29-2011, 10:52 PM
Agree completely with Snowwy..PLD has had the worst year of his career by far and only last week has he made a change. Go back and look at his horrible results over the past 6 months, he was often losing to unranked players in qualifying matches. It looks like he may have turned the corner BUT there is no way he deserves a WC over Dancevic, Polansky (who even though is also having a horrible year, he was qualified for grand slam tournaments including winning a main draw match and has won a match at the rogers cup main draw), Vasek or Bester (Maindraw WC tend to go to players that play Davis Cup which Bester is playing next week).

But he definitely deserves a qualifying WC.

Snowwy
06-30-2011, 02:30 AM
If it was me deciding

MD: Frank, Peter, Vasek, Hewitt
QD: Bester, Chvojka, Diez, PLD

If we are keeping them all in Canada, options include Stevenson, Peliwo, Krainik

If I had to bet, I would say Krainik since Peliwo is still very young and Krainik also got it last year, but one could make the case that he had his chance and it should go to Stevenson.

Blarghman
06-30-2011, 04:14 AM
I think Snowwy has nailed it, I totally agree with what you say for WCs :)

As for PLD, I think he has had his MD WC chance last year, he'll have to really up his level to get another in his career.

tommyg6
06-30-2011, 08:16 AM
If it was me deciding

MD: Frank, Peter, Vasek, Hewitt
QD: Bester, Chvojka, Diez, PLD

If we are keeping them all in Canada, options include Stevenson, Peliwo, Krainik

If I had to bet, I would say Krainik since Peliwo is still very young and Krainik also got it last year, but one could make the case that he had his chance and it should go to Stevenson.

Hewitt getting a WC? wtf? Give it to Bester at least. That mug doesnt deserve a WC. Strictly Canadian.

Snowwy
06-30-2011, 11:39 AM
Hewitt getting a WC? wtf? Give it to Bester at least. That mug doesnt deserve a WC. Strictly Canadian.

I agree about giving it to Bester, but we have to be realistic as well, Hewitt is a great champion who has given us two or three great matches in majors this year, it's hard to say no to a guy like that if he were to ask, he has always come in the past and unlike Bester has been dedicated to tennis longer than a year and a half.

misty1
06-30-2011, 11:59 AM
Hewitt getting a WC? wtf? Give it to Bester at least. That mug doesnt deserve a WC. Strictly Canadian.

i can understand wanting to get as many canadians in the draw as possible but in another view you have to look at who has a better chance of winning a match or 2 and if lleyton is in the situation where he needs a wild card and asks for one i think he deserves one.

Snowwy
06-30-2011, 12:03 PM
i can understand wanting to get as many canadians in the draw as possible but in another view you have to look at who has a better chance of winning a match or 2 and if lleyton is in the situation where he needs a wild card and asks for one i think he deserves one.

Yeah, if you only looked at who would have the best chance of winning why not just all four to the next four highest ranked players? That's why I disagree with your point. How often do you see countries give WCs to imports?

misty1
06-30-2011, 12:10 PM
im talking about if the situation is where lleyton asks for a wild card and lets say theirs only one left to give do you give it to lleyton or philipp?

thats what i meant by saying that

obviously you have to take more into account then who can win a match but thats going to be part of what goes in to making the desicion( i would think)

tommyg6
06-30-2011, 03:31 PM
In an ideal world, I would give out 8 wildcards to 8 CANADIANS. I'd try to put in as many Canadians as possible in this event. If I had a chance, I'd literally fill up half the freaking tournament with Canadians. Seriously, when's the last time we've seen a Canadian win the Rogers Cup? Seriously? I'm annoyed and tired seeing foreigners always winning this event and crushing the Canadian players. I mean, Nadal, Federer and all those guys are great players and all and I respect that but first and foremost I want to see a Canadian win this event badly. I'm a proud Canadian and want Canada to win all the time. Heck, I even think an Australian or a British will an Australian Open or Wimbledon before we see a Canadian winning the Rogers Cup. Just terrible. I hope Milos shows all these mugs who's buss and wins the Rogers Cup at some point in his career. Go Canada!

Snowwy
06-30-2011, 03:55 PM
im talking about if the situation is where lleyton asks for a wild card and lets say theirs only one left to give do you give it to lleyton or philipp?

thats what i meant by saying that

obviously you have to take more into account then who can win a match but thats going to be part of what goes in to making the desicion( i would think)

Oh I agree completely, and that is why I think they will pick Hewitt. But it has to be a player that has some sort of history.

ibreak4coffee
06-30-2011, 04:30 PM
In an ideal world, I would give out 8 wildcards to 8 CANADIANS. I'd try to put in as many Canadians as possible in this event. If I had a chance, I'd literally fill up half the freaking tournament with Canadians. Seriously, when's the last time we've seen a Canadian win the Rogers Cup? Seriously? I'm annoyed and tired seeing foreigners always winning this event and crushing the Canadian players. I mean, Nadal, Federer and all those guys are great players and all and I respect that but first and foremost I want to see a Canadian win this event badly. I'm a proud Canadian and want Canada to win all the time. Heck, I even think an Australian or a British will an Australian Open or Wimbledon before we see a Canadian winning the Rogers Cup. Just terrible. I hope Milos shows all these mugs who's buss and wins the Rogers Cup at some point in his career. Go Canada!

"Tired of seeing foreigners always winning this event" - I cant decide if this post is delusional or knee jerk nationalism. I appreciate your enthusiasm for Canadian tennis and our great country, but its not because of the lack of wildcards for Canadian players in the MD that a Canuck hasn't won the Rogers Cup. Its a lack of quality.

Personally, I dont subscribe to the view that all wildcards need to be exclusively for Canadians. I think Tomic's recent run at Wimbledon - as well as Milos' run in the Aussie - shows there is real value in making up and coming guys tough out the qualies and prove they belong. Ask Donald Young. For this reason I do agree with you, however, that as far as qualy wildcards are concerned, all of them should be for Canadians.

For the MD wildcards, Frank and Peter have proven in the past they deserve a wildcard and if anything allow the schedulers a good Monday evening centre court match, so they should get one no doubt. Maybe this year you add one for Vasek as well, if only for his Davis Cup commitment and the fact he's clearly on the upswing in his career. But other than that, I dont see any reason why giving a wildcard to Phil, PLD, Diez, Eric, or anyone else is good for the tournament or the players. Getting crushed in the first round does nothing for these guys beyond providing a nice payday compared to what they are used to playing for.

I would love to see a Canadian win the Rogers Cup, but realistically the only guy playing right now with even a remote shot one day to win the Rogers is Milos, and he will get in on merit. A guy like Hewitt has the ability to make it farther in the MD than the Canadians I listed and shouldn't be ignored if a request comes along. As a tennis fan, its great to see your countrymen do well, but if I'm paying for tickets I'd rather see quality tennis and good competition than a bunch of Canadians thrown into the deep end and be eliminated from the tournament in about an hour.

Emeraldhands
06-30-2011, 11:55 PM
Wow, even our friend Milan Pokrajac is on the entry list, haven't heard about him in years it seems, he was a decent top 500 player, guess it wasn't enough to motivate him to continue on a pro career

Snowwy
07-01-2011, 12:39 AM
Wow, even our friend Milan Pokrajac is on the entry list, haven't heard about him in years it seems, he was a decent top 500 player, guess it wasn't enough to motivate him to continue on a pro career

Which entry list? Great to see him back, I always liked cheering for him. Terrible first round loses in 22 of 25 tournaments of the year and three great weeks. Early version of Diez.

Blarghman
07-01-2011, 12:46 AM
Personally, I dont subscribe to the view that all wildcards need to be exclusively for Canadians. I think Tomic's recent run at Wimbledon - as well as Milos' run in the Aussie - shows there is real value in making up and coming guys tough out the qualies and prove they belong. Ask Donald Young. For this reason I do agree with you, however, that as far as qualy wildcards are concerned, all of them should be for Canadians.

I always feel split on this point, I agree and disagree. I think that the major difference between the Canadian guys and guys like Tomic or Young is that this is basically a once-a-season thing for them. It's not like they won't have to go through the grind of qualys and earn their place, as they'll be there the other 51 weeks of the year, where players like Young and Tomic can potentially get a lot of WCs. At the same time, Milos' big breakthrough came when he was in the qualies, so maybe it would make sense.

I figure that a wildcard for Phil will hang on whether Hewitt wants one, unless Bester, like, wins a fifth rubber to send us to WG PO.

tommyg6
07-01-2011, 11:18 PM
As a very pro-Canadian, I want a Canadian to win the Rogers Cup.

Snowwy
07-02-2011, 04:17 AM
Happy Canada Day!

Nathaliia
07-04-2011, 12:53 PM
Is any of you actually heading to a Granby Challenger by any chance? :angel: :devil:

big_j_tennis
07-04-2011, 10:47 PM
Is any of you actually heading to a Granby Challenger by any chance? :angel: :devil:

I might go a day or two, but Im really not sure yet... depends on the matchups

Gonzil
07-05-2011, 01:18 AM
Rankings of Canadians in top 500, as of 4 July 2011

26 Raonic, Milos (CH 25)
146 Dancevic, Frank (CH 65)
191 Pospisil, Vasek CH!
229 Bester, Philip CH!
259 Polansky, Peter (CH 164)
348 Chvojka, Erik (CH 343)
349 Duclos, Pierre-Ludovic (CH 259)
466 Diez, Steven (CH 407)

Congratulations to both Vasek and Philip for career highs. Vasek enters top 200 for the first time. He has also reached a career high of 121 in doubles.

Snowwy
07-05-2011, 02:42 AM
Seven players in the top 350. When is the last time Canada had that?

misty1
07-06-2011, 01:52 PM
carlos berlocq crushed steven diez 6-3, 6-0 in san benedetto, first round

Snowwy
07-06-2011, 02:26 PM
Surprised Diez got 3 games, sometimes he doesn't even get three games against players who are ranked outside the top 1500.

misty1
07-06-2011, 05:49 PM
well..he held serve just once in the entire match

he broke serve twice in the first set and didnt have any break points at all in the 2nd

Emeraldhands
07-07-2011, 02:38 AM
Don't really know what his motivation was to play that Challenger and who the hell gave him the wildcard. I guess his next move is Granby?

Nathaliia
07-07-2011, 08:19 PM
Haha he practised in Spain, maybe he practises in Italy now?

tommyg6
07-07-2011, 08:23 PM
Surprised Diez got 3 games, sometimes he doesn't even get three games against players who are ranked outside the top 1500.

What a waste. I rather see Diez play some futures than being a welcome mat for players at the challenger level.

Snowwy
07-09-2011, 02:33 PM
Qualifying draw out, some of these players will never have a better chance to qualify for a challenger.

I expect.

Aarts
Monette
Dzyunlsky
Berard

Snowwy
07-09-2011, 02:34 PM
http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2011/877/qs.pdf

letshavefun3
07-09-2011, 07:15 PM
There are also 8 Canadians in the US futures qualies http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2011/736/qs.pdf

Emeraldhands
07-09-2011, 07:17 PM
Young Abanda just won the Raquette D'or in Morocco which is a G2 event. This will put her in the top 100 in juniors and is the highest ranked player born in 1997? Could she be the real deal? She seems to be the better of the two Abanda sisters so far.

Snowwy
07-09-2011, 08:01 PM
I am very interested to see how Henry Choi does.

letshavefun3
07-09-2011, 08:55 PM
Granby main draw out, some interesting match ups unfortunately a few Can vs Can match ups http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2011/877/mds.pdf

misty1
07-09-2011, 09:29 PM
who the hell is this: Milan Pokrajac and why does he have a wild card into the main draw?

somje interesting matches for sure though

Gonzil
07-09-2011, 09:36 PM
well, at least we are guaranteed one Canadian quarter-finalist.

Snowwy
07-09-2011, 10:06 PM
who the hell is this: Milan Pokrajac and why does he have a wild card into the main draw?

somje interesting matches for sure though

He use to be ranked in the top 500 two years ago. Could this be a real comeback from him if he got a WC. If so, very exciting :)

Soo exciting.

Good draw for Vasek. Hope he doesn't withdraw.

Real shot here for Diez, Pospisil, Peter and Erik for the second round and Pospisil for the QFs, maybe Erik too.

GasquetGulbis
07-09-2011, 10:43 PM
5 points goes to 2 Canadians from the qualifying for Grandy. Hopefully Peliwo and whoever Tousignant is can pick up points as well.

GasquetGulbis
07-09-2011, 10:48 PM
I was trying to find any evidence of White having played Pospisil in juniors. They both competed in Nationals here http://www.tennisontario.com/Tournament/Draw_Maker_64.asp?trid=07J201&evid=BS&ctid=U18&rund=1&trnam=U18+Outdoor+Nationals

But obviously Pospisil was a step above.

Either way I think that Pospisil should be in the quarter-finals, potentially the semi's, and who knows maybe the finals if the support is good enough. I think Chvojka could make a good run here too. Diez and Polansky are gonna be second round knockouts in my opinion, and I doubt any of the qualifiers will pick up a win, maybe Peliwo/Re could beat Antoinne Benneteau.

misty1
07-09-2011, 11:03 PM
good chance for some runs here so fure..i wonder how vasek will handle things though, conditions are so different from where he is in ecuador

d_s
07-09-2011, 11:44 PM
Pokrajac :eek: Where on earth did this come from? Hopefully this really does mean he's making a comeback if they gave him a WC. He made the semis here in 2007 as a qualifier which was like an out-of-nowhere result. Good luck to him!

Good luck to the rest as well. Pospisil's got a great draw and hoping to see Peter and Erik make a nice run too.

Emeraldhands
07-10-2011, 02:41 AM
Could Pokrajac be coming back from some sort of nasty injury that has sidelined him the last two years?

Snowwy
07-10-2011, 03:17 AM
Huge matches tomorrow for the qualifiers, two Canadians are going to get DE/high seeding to qualifying to USA Future events for an entire year. For that reason alone, I don't want Berard to win, I don't think he will travel as much as Leduc.

tommyg6
07-10-2011, 07:04 AM
If I were to rank the Canucks in terms of ability on each surface, excluding Nestor who's just a doubles player now.

Grass
1. Raonic
2. Dancevic
3. Pospisil
4. Polansky
5. Bester

Hard
1. Raonic
2. Dancevic
3. Pospisil
4. Bester
5. PLD

Clay
1. Raonic
2. Polansky
3. Dancevic
4. Diez
5. Bester

Carpet
1. Raonic
2. Dancevic
3. Pospsil
4. PLD
5. Bester

And in terms of level of ability on various aspects of the game...

Serve
1. Raonic
2. Dancevic
3. Pospisil
4. PLD
5. Polansky

Return of Serve

1. Dancevic
2. Raonic
3. Polansky
4. Bester
5. Pospisil

Forehand
1. Raonic
2. Dancevic
3. Polansky
4. Pospisil
5. Bester

Backhand
1. Dancevic
2. Raonic
3. Polansky
4. Bester
5. Pospisil

Volleying
1. Raonic
2. Dancevic
3. Pospisil
4. PLD
5. Polansky

Movement
1. Polansky
2. Dancevic
3. Raonic
4. Pospisil
5. PLD

Mental Strength
1. Raonic (by far)
2. Pospisil
3. PLD
4. Bester
5. Chovjka

sorry but Dancevic & Polansky are mental midgets.

Snowwy
07-10-2011, 12:52 PM
Return of Serve

1. Dancevic
2. Raonic
3. Polansky
4. Bester
5. Pospisil

:lol:

misty1
07-10-2011, 12:59 PM
Return of Serve

1. Dancevic
2. Raonic
3. Polansky
4. Bester
5. Pospisil


:lol: okay

milos 2nd and ay return of serve list is rediculous

Gonzil
07-10-2011, 04:53 PM
This can't last, but I see that Peliwo is up 5-0 against the top seed in qualies at Granby, Aarts - an ex-college guy, who has yet to win a point on his serve (despite serving at 75%). (I sort of wonder whether they have got the scoreboard the wrong way around!)

handofgod
07-10-2011, 05:04 PM
Are you at the tournament? How can I see live scores of the granby qualies?

Smoke944
07-10-2011, 05:06 PM
http://www.protennislive.com/framesetperpc.asp?lang=en&ref=www.atpworldtour.com

Smoke944
07-10-2011, 05:07 PM
This can't last, but I see that Peliwo is up 5-0 against the top seed in qualies at Granby, Aarts - an ex-college guy, who has yet to win a point on his serve (despite serving at 75%). (I sort of wonder whether they have got the scoreboard the wrong way around!)

Aarts isn't good at all but he's also not this terribly bad :lol:

Gonzil
07-10-2011, 05:11 PM
I wonder if his back is hurt and he is serving underarm (he's down 1-6, 0-3 and won a total of 7 points on serve!).

Gonzil
07-10-2011, 05:14 PM
Are you at the tournament? How can I see live scores of the granby qualies?

For future reference, the scoreboards for the challengers (if they have them) can be found by going on to the ATP page, and choosing Challengers under Tournaments (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tournaments/Challenger-Tour.aspx). The Live Scores are on the Quick Links at the right.

Emeraldhands
07-10-2011, 05:15 PM
And just like that Philip is going to have 5 points (or is it 3) which is more then Krainik. I wonder why guys liek Haessig and Krainik are not here?

Emeraldhands
07-10-2011, 05:18 PM
I have a question but it could be a little early. If Milos is the first success of the NTC is it safe to say that Nicolai is the first failure? I mean he hasn't really done anything and now he is only playing in Europe.

Gonzil
07-10-2011, 05:21 PM
And Peliwo wins 6-1, 6-0. There must have been something wrong with Aarts.

handofgod
07-10-2011, 05:23 PM
And Peliwo wins 6-1, 6-0. There must have been something wrong with Aarts.

Why do you say that - Filip is a feast or famine type of player - when he is hot, he's hot.

I watched the Tiago win in Rolland Garros and he out played him; the guy wasn't injured at all, just "using tricks."

Emeraldhands
07-10-2011, 05:30 PM
Filip is a very good player, and I could see him being in the top 300 in 2 or 3 years, but this win just doesn't make sense.

Emeraldhands
07-10-2011, 05:32 PM
best junior we have had since milos and vasek

Gonzil
07-10-2011, 05:34 PM
Why do you say that - Filip is a feast or famine type of player - when he is hot, he's hot.

I watched the Tiago win in Rolland Garros and he out played him; the guy wasn't injured at all, just "using tricks."

Well, I would be happy to hear that Filip destroyed an in-form Aarts, but it just seems to me that someone like Aarts should be able to win a few more points on serve, whoever he is playing against. He won just 30% of 1st serves - that really is unnaturally bad.

But I note that he lost his last match - 0-6, 1-6 (against someone ranked 705).

handofgod
07-10-2011, 05:39 PM
From what I heard, Aarts was serving well - some serves reaching 120mph.

handofgod
07-10-2011, 05:45 PM
Looks like Monette and Peliwo drew White/Diez in doubles; some chance for the two juniors to pick up some points.

Snowwy
07-10-2011, 06:36 PM
From what I heard, Aarts was serving well - some serves reaching 120mph.

That's not possible, he couldn't have served well and not won a point on serve til the last game of the first set.

Snowwy
07-10-2011, 07:13 PM
Come on Berard.

Snowwy
07-11-2011, 03:51 PM
Only Berard plays today.

misty1
07-11-2011, 08:01 PM
berard got completely demolished by rajeev ram 6-2, 6-1 in 45 minutes

Snowwy
07-11-2011, 08:22 PM
berard got completely demolished by rajeev ram 6-2, 6-1 in 45 minutes

Not surprising really. Hope he had a good experience.

Snowwy
07-12-2011, 12:45 PM
Rotaru qualified for USA F18 and Choi lost in three in the last round, hope they continue to be in qualifying draws.

misty1
07-12-2011, 03:25 PM
yoann re is on court noe against antoine benneteau an already down a break

Emeraldhands
07-12-2011, 03:26 PM
Is Re going to go pro or is he just playing this because it is in Quebec?

misty1
07-12-2011, 03:30 PM
probably the latter

also an all canadian match up between diez and pajkowski

misty1
07-12-2011, 03:35 PM
great hold by pajkowski after going 0-40 down

misty1
07-12-2011, 03:45 PM
antoine benneteau crushed yoann 6-1 in the first set

misty1
07-12-2011, 03:54 PM
benneteau up 6-1, 3-0 over re

pajkowski got broken on a double fault but promptly broke diez right back. They are on serve now at 4-4

milan is on court again mahut and should start soon

misty1
07-12-2011, 04:20 PM
antoine benneteau def. yoann re 6-1, 6-3

yoann had 3 break points at 2-4 down but couldnt convert

mahut meanwhile is 3-0 up on pokrajac. Milan did have 2 break points on mahut's opening serve but, again couldnt convert. Nicolas then converted on the 3rd break point of his on milan's serve and then held his next service easily

misty1
07-12-2011, 05:35 PM
nicolas mahut crushed milan projkac 6-1, 6-1 in 54 minutes

so far canadian men 0-3

although at the same time it cant be said that none of the results are unexpected

steven diez won the all canadian clash 7-6(10-8) , 6-2 over kamil pajkowski

Emeraldhands
07-12-2011, 06:54 PM
Can't wait to see how Filip plays here, Peter is obviously playing well since he always has 3 games off of Reix, so either Peter was way off in that final round of qualies or Filip was awesome.

misty1
07-12-2011, 07:58 PM
erik chovjka crushed filip peliwo 6-1, 6-2 in 58 minutes

he broke once that means he held serve twice in the entire match

Snowwy
07-12-2011, 09:41 PM
Hopefully good runs here from Erik and Vasek. :)

misty1
07-12-2011, 10:16 PM
QF is possible for both but if matthias and karol get there too i think thats as far as they'd go

Emeraldhands
07-13-2011, 01:58 AM
Vasek is going to make the QF for sure, and maybe the SF depending on who he plays.

letshavefun3
07-13-2011, 04:05 AM
So the Vancouver entry list has been released and Bester, Duclos, Chvojka, Polanksy and Pospisil all are directly into the main draw. Diez is the next Canadian in but he is currently 11th ALT so he will get to the main draw by a wild card.

Frank Dancevic hasn't entered this tournament (or any tournament this week).

misty1
07-14-2011, 05:32 PM
well so much for erik having a good run here as some predicted him to

he got demolished by tatsumo ito 6-1, 6-1 in 53 minutes, he earned 9 points on return the entire match

Emeraldhands
07-14-2011, 06:51 PM
Not to sure what happened to Erik there, but got a few points for making the second round.

misty1
07-14-2011, 09:28 PM
am i the only one thats concerned/ embarrased for the canadian guys a bit?

i mean, sure they have been against much higher ranked opponents but they have all been swept aside with no effort at all by the opponents. You look at the women though and while they have faced much higher opposition they have given very good accounts of themselves

letshavefun3
07-14-2011, 10:08 PM
that's just canadian tennis, we will never be a powerhouse and we wont be bottom of the barrel. We will always fluctuate from high middle to low middle of tennis countries. It's just the reality.

FormerRafaFan
07-15-2011, 06:38 PM
am i the only one thats concerned/ embarrased for the canadian guys a bit?

i mean, sure they have been against much higher ranked opponents but they have all been swept aside with no effort at all by the opponents. You look at the women though and while they have faced much higher opposition they have given very good accounts of themselves

that's just canadian tennis, we will never be a powerhouse and we wont be bottom of the barrel. We will always fluctuate from high middle to low middle of tennis countries. It's just the reality.

Well.. look at it this way: at least it can't be worse than Norwegian tennis. Our best guy is currently ranked around 600, and we're in the worst Davis Cup group in Europe, with "tennis powerhouses" as Iceland, Georgia and Macedonia. That is something to be proud of! Or maybe not..

ibreak4coffee
07-15-2011, 06:41 PM
that's just canadian tennis, we will never be a powerhouse and we wont be bottom of the barrel. We will always fluctuate from high middle to low middle of tennis countries. It's just the reality.

Very well put

tommyg6
07-15-2011, 09:35 PM
Well with Frank, Milos and Vasek all out with injuries, I'd still give the wildcards to only Canadians at the Rogers Cup in Montreal. There's no way in hell I would give a WC to Hewitt or any other fading star player or anyone foreign. Screw that.

My wildcards go to...
WC - Bester
WC - PLD
WC - Diez
WC - Polansky

My qualifying wildcards go to Canadians as well.
Damn, it sucks Milos and our other top players are out with injuries.

letshavefun3
07-15-2011, 11:31 PM
Who says they are out with injuries? Frank plans to play and I would bet Vasek will too he probably just tweaked it.

misty1
07-15-2011, 11:53 PM
Well with Frank, Milos and Vasek all out with injuries, I'd still give the wildcards to only Canadians at the Rogers Cup in Montreal. There's no way in hell I would give a WC to Hewitt or any other fading star player or anyone foreign. Screw that.

My wildcards go to...
WC - Bester
WC - PLD
WC - Diez
WC - Polansky

My qualifying wildcards go to Canadians as well.
Damn, it sucks Milos and our other top players are out with injuries.

your wild cards for diez and duclos are rediculous

tommyg6
07-16-2011, 12:04 AM
your wild cards for diez and duclos are rediculous

your entitled to your opinion.

GasquetGulbis
07-16-2011, 04:05 AM
Haessig is playing qualifying in Austria next week. Can't really see him going anywhere at this point.

GasquetGulbis
07-16-2011, 04:07 AM
My wildcards for the Roger's Cup would probably be

Dancevic
Pospisil
Bester
Polansky

Polansky I'm a little iffy about because so far I think Chvojka has been playing better this year, but Polansky steps up at the big events.

Qualifying WC's would be Chvojka, Diez, PLD, and Peliwo, not sure if there's more than 4.

Snowwy
07-16-2011, 04:53 AM
4 for each GG.

d_s
07-16-2011, 06:10 AM
The qualies draw for the Canada F3 is out and as expected there's a whole bunch of Canadians. I see Pokrajac and Peliwo are in the draw which is kind of surprising to me since I thought they'd get main draw WCs, especially Peliwo after his result last week. So that means maybe the WCs went to Rotaru, Monette, White, and Nguyen? (I think Chu got in directly since he was next in on the list).

misty1
07-16-2011, 11:53 AM
im not surprised filip has to qualify

he may have gotten through qualifying this past week in granby but he played an awful match in both singles and doubles in the first round of the main draw

Snowwy
07-16-2011, 01:27 PM
im not surprised filip has to qualify

he may have gotten through qualifying this past week in granby but he played an awful match in both singles and doubles in the first round of the main draw

Why would Monette get a WC then?

misty1
07-16-2011, 01:30 PM
i dont know..i have no idea why wild cards are handed out to certain players at times

i find myself questioning why Pokrajac got a main draw wild card to granby this past week

Gonzil
07-17-2011, 11:42 PM
Maybe Monette is given a WC in recognition of the fact that earlier this year he qualified in Canada Futures 1 and 2.

Anyway the Canadians put on a decent showing in qualies today, with Langer, Pokrajac and Peliwo taking out seeded players. We have 7 in the final round, and we are guaranteed 2 qualifiers.

Snowwy
07-18-2011, 06:06 PM
Peliwo won today, made the main draw.

big_j_tennis
07-18-2011, 09:04 PM
Peliwo won today, made the main draw.

Who else qualified?

Snowwy
07-18-2011, 09:09 PM
Not sure, I just saw it on his twitter.

Emeraldhands
07-18-2011, 09:44 PM
Peliwo is going to be a decent pro player if he decides to play Pro. I have no idea if he has any ambitions of going the NCAA route but if he goes pro at 18 I can see him having a decent career.

Gonzil
07-18-2011, 10:43 PM
Well, the Canadians were inspired today in the final qualies round - we got a maximum number of qualifiers:
Ochotta, Pokrajac, Choi, Peliwo and Pasareanu.

Disappointing to see that Polansky is not in the draw - I hope this injury is not going to drag on too long.

misty1
07-18-2011, 10:56 PM
Peliwo is going to be a decent pro player if he decides to play Pro. I have no idea if he has any ambitions of going the NCAA route but if he goes pro at 18 I can see him having a decent career.

i disgagree, i dont think he will be anything to good but we'll just have to wait and see

Emeraldhands
07-19-2011, 12:44 AM
I guess with all the hoop-la of Canada F3, I might as well mention that Pavel got his fourth ATP point in Italy. That at least covers all the points that he got last year so he can only go up the rankings from here.

Snowwy
07-19-2011, 01:53 AM
Very interesting tourna,nt here.

Snowwy
07-19-2011, 04:52 PM
Peliwo won 61 64, his first ATP point.

handofgod
07-19-2011, 05:38 PM
Peliwo won 61 64, his first ATP point.

I would have thought he got some points for qualifying for Granby?

How did the other juniors do?

Snowwy
07-19-2011, 06:13 PM
Oh right, I forgot about that, what I should have said is its his main draw ever. :lol:

handofgod
07-19-2011, 07:38 PM
Oh right, I forgot about that, what I should have said is its his main draw ever. :lol:

No - what you should have said is that it's his first ever main draw win - qualifying implies main draw.

Emeraldhands
07-19-2011, 09:35 PM
Great work by Filip, I find it kinda funny that they gave the WC to Nguyen rather then Filip? Anyone else wonder why that happened??

Snowwy
07-19-2011, 10:05 PM
No - what you should have said is that it's his first ever main draw win - qualifying implies main draw.

Right, of course win, that was just an oversight in my last post.

Gonzil
07-19-2011, 10:29 PM
Great work by Filip, I find it kinda funny that they gave the WC to Nguyen rather then Filip? Anyone else wonder why that happened??

I thought so too, but I wonder whether they have planned to give out the WCs to everyone spread out over the different Futures events, so maybe Peliwo is lined up to get one at next week's event.

Nguyen was in North Africa last week so it made sense for him to be spared qualifying this week (though as it turned out he lost pretty early so he could have made it back in time, albeit a little jetlagged).

Gonzil
07-19-2011, 10:39 PM
I was also surprised that Di Feo is not playing the Futures, especially given that he like Monette qualified in the earlier Futures tournaments.

Instead he is in the junior tournaments, taking last week's title. It really doesn't seem like good competition for him - he lost just 10 games in 5 matches last week. But for some reason he doesn't seem to be able to win matches except in Canada and he has points from last year to defend so maybe he feels he needs to keep his junior ranking up. (He's now in the mid-West event and won his first round 6-0, 6-0)

Snowwy
07-19-2011, 10:59 PM
Good day for Filip, won doubles with Monette as well.

Emeraldhands
07-19-2011, 11:32 PM
Filip is having himself a nice few weeks

Snowwy
07-19-2011, 11:45 PM
Peliwo was joined by Diez with wins today, Rotaru lost in two and Choi and Pasarenue both lost after winning the first set. Thought Choi would win today.

GasquetGulbis
07-20-2011, 12:03 AM
I'm hoping I can go down sometime this week, but I'll have to see what happens. I'll take pics/vids if I can get down there

156mphserve
07-20-2011, 06:47 AM
I saw Monette/Peliwo doubles match on bet365 today while checking atlanta live score on my phone, are they covering livescore for the future like they did with some futures earlier this year in asia?

Gonzil
07-21-2011, 12:02 AM
A bit late in the week but I thought I would give the ranking update (top 500) for July 18:

28 Raonic, Milos (CH 25)
161 Dancevic, Frank (CH 65)
183 Pospisil, Vasek (CH!)
235 Bester, Philip (CH 229)
277 Polansky, Peter (CH 164)
337 Chvojka, Erik (CH!)
357 Duclos, Pierre-Ludovic (CH 259)
454 Diez, Steven (CH 407)

Congrats to Vashy and Erik for career highs. Also a special mention for Peliwo who enters the rankings at 1,074 thanks to his 5 Granby points. Shamasdin reaches another CH in doubles at 60.

It is good that there are a few things to celebrate, since on the injury front it looks pretty grim. Speaking of which, here is an Injury Roster:

Milos – hip – retired 22 June Wimbledon
Frank – back – last played 21 June Wimbledon
Vasek – ankle – retired 15 July Granby
Philip - ??? – withdrew Lexington (maybe not injured, just not playing out of solidarity)
Peter – groin – last played 13 June Wimbledon qualies

Emeraldhands
07-21-2011, 12:54 AM
Wow, what a win by Ahmed, that really came out of nowhere. Kelsey is about to break into the top 1000 with his win today.

tommyg6
07-21-2011, 06:14 AM
Way to go Ahmed!

handofgod
07-21-2011, 05:31 PM
Looks like Peliwo won in 3 tough sets today - anyone see the match?

Snowwy
07-21-2011, 05:45 PM
Very good win for Filip. Very unexpected. He has a shot at a SF here. I thought Verryth was going to make the final from that half of the draw.

Snowwy
07-21-2011, 10:47 PM
Diez won today in F3, but other than Peliwo the others lost.

Emeraldhands
07-21-2011, 10:51 PM
Who really thought here that Milos would one day be in the top 30? When I first started following Canadian Tennis in 2008, Milos was ranked just inside the top 900 as a 17 year old. Now Filip as a 17 year old has got 8 points and should get himself into the 950 after this result is in. Their Junior ranking is about the same but I believe Milos reached his max at the end of his Junior Career.

I am not saying that Filip will make the top 30 in 3 years but he could definitely be a decent player.

Emeraldhands
07-21-2011, 11:40 PM
Why the hell is Di Feo playing a G5 in Canada? I really don't get why he is there. I understand that he has those 30 points to defend. but I would rather see him playing the Canada F3 and get pro Experience. I assume that he is going to play Canada F4 and maybe get a wildcard since if he wins the G5 the final is on Saturday and Qualies also start on Saturday.

Gonzil
07-22-2011, 12:35 AM
Nice surprise to see Peliwo win here. I can't help wondering how much of it was a matter of who dealt with the extreme heat better. Though it would be funny if the Canadian beat the Australian on heat preparation.

I don't see how we can tell how he is going to do in the long run. It seems pretty mysterious. Often it seems like the guys who do really well very young fade out and get overtaken by others.

tommyg6
07-22-2011, 06:41 AM
Rogers Cup wildcards should go to Chovka, Duclos without a doubt

Snowwy
07-22-2011, 12:25 PM
Rogers Cup wildcards should go to Chovka, Duclos without a doubt

Why? Because they never support Tennis Canada and say no when asked to play DC? (Duclos). Or because they can occasionally pull off upsets in the first and second round in challengers when they are underdogs against the likes of Wolmarans and Monroe?

tommyg6
07-22-2011, 08:57 PM
Why? Because they never support Tennis Canada and say no when asked to play DC? (Duclos). Or because they can occasionally pull off upsets in the first and second round in challengers when they are underdogs against the likes of Wolmarans and Monroe?

Cuz the other Canucks are injured, you gotta have some Canadian content in our Masters series event.

misty1
07-22-2011, 08:59 PM
yes, so lets give wild cards to guys who have no chance at all to win a match in the main draw

would you enjoy watching them get hammered in the main draw?

tommyg6
07-22-2011, 09:28 PM
yes, so lets give wild cards to guys who have no chance at all to win a match in the main draw

would you enjoy watching them get hammered in the main draw?

Yes I would, as long as their Canadian.

misty1
07-22-2011, 09:30 PM
well personally i think you'd be in the minority on that, i cant think of 2 many people that would enjoy watching their guys get smoked

Snowwy
07-22-2011, 09:44 PM
Cuz the other Canucks are injured, you gotta have some Canadian content in our Masters series event.

Fair enough then. I agree that they should all go to Canadians and maybe Hewitt.

Gonzil
07-22-2011, 10:58 PM
Zhe LI (CHN) (3) defeated Filip PELIWO (CAN) 6-2 6-2
Steven DIEZ (CAN) (4) defeated Dennis ZIVKOVIC (USA) (6) 4-6 6-4 6-4

Diez is making a good effort here (as he seems to do once every six months or so).

Emeraldhands
07-23-2011, 01:46 AM
Seems to play well when he comes to Canada, why not stay here?

Snowwy
07-23-2011, 01:48 PM
European clay futures events are tougher, makes you a better player in the end.

Gonzil
07-23-2011, 04:26 PM
Not sure how this works - Di Feo is in the final of the Junior G5 in Winnipeg today and also in the qualies for next week's Futures in Saskatoon.

Well I guess since they couldn't round up a full draw for the Futures qualies and there is only one round to be played, they are spreading the matches out over two days.

Monette and Trkulja were unlucky - they drew the only two guys with a ranking.

Emeraldhands
07-23-2011, 05:18 PM
Monette will qualify, he has been beating guys outside the top 1000 everytime he plays these.

letshavefun3
07-23-2011, 05:50 PM
Diez is into the finals!

tommyg6
07-23-2011, 09:29 PM
Rogers Cup wildcard should go to Chovjka, PLD, Diez and unfortunately, Hewitt. Since all the other Canadians are injured (bester, pospisil, raonic, polansky and raonic). Chovjka, PLD and Diez all are healthy and playing on fire.

letshavefun3
07-23-2011, 09:41 PM
All Canadians except raonic are planning to play Rogers cup so the WC won't be going to Diez or Duclos lol

Snowwy
07-23-2011, 10:36 PM
Monette and Trujkla lost today.

tommyg6
07-23-2011, 11:07 PM
All Canadians except raonic are planning to play Rogers cup so the WC won't be going to Diez or Duclos lol

Really? Thats news to me. Well, then, those Canucks should get a bye into the second round.

Emeraldhands
07-24-2011, 04:45 AM
Abanda just won her second G2 in three weeks after making the Quarters of a G1 last week. She will be getting really close to the top 50 now.

Gonzil
07-25-2011, 02:20 AM
Rankings report 25 July:

28 Raonic, Milos (CH 25)
158 Dancevic, Frank (CH 65)
187 Pospisil, Vasek (CH 183)
255 Bester, Philip (CH 229)
292 Polansky, Peter (CH 164)
315 Chvojka, Erik (CH!)
323 Duclos, Pierre-Ludovic (CH 259)
455 Diez, Steven (CH 407)

Congrats to Erik on another career high! Steve will get a bounce next week when his Futures final points come on.

Injury roster

Good news - we are down from our (hopefully) peak number of 5 injured:

Milos – hip – retired 22 June Wimbledon
Frank – back – last played 21 June Wimbledon
Philip - hand – last played 10 July Davis Cup
Peter – groin – last played 13 June Wimbledon qualies

Off the injury roster

Vasek – ankle – retired 15 July Granby – now back playing (Saskatoon Futures)

Emeraldhands
07-26-2011, 01:53 AM
Is it just me of is Di Feo just bagelling everyone these days? He really needs better competition if he is to improve.

Snowwy
07-27-2011, 02:09 AM
Wins for Chu, Choi (yes!) and Chvojka today. Loss for Yee, Good day. Sets up for a very easy second round for Chvojka.

FormerRafaFan
07-27-2011, 11:02 AM
Sorry guys.. haven't been able to pay attention because of all that has been going on here in Norway. The country is still in mourning.

Hopefully many of the Canadian players will be ready for RC. I know it seems unlikely for Milos, but hopefully Vasek and the rest will be ready.

Snowwy
07-27-2011, 08:03 PM
Diez beat Peliwo, kinda surprised actually. Sounds like Peliwo has a bit of a wrist injury.

Gonzil
07-27-2011, 10:23 PM
Sorry guys.. haven't been able to pay attention because of all that has been going on here in Norway. The country is still in mourning.


Sokk, our thoughts and heartfelt sympathies are with you and all your fellow citizens.

GasquetGulbis
07-27-2011, 11:50 PM
Di Feo beats the 8th seed, very good win for him.

Gonzil
07-28-2011, 12:43 AM
Di Feo d. Racz, 7-5, 6-3. (The guy has been having a wretched year, but still a great win for Di Feo)

Diez d. Peliwo, 6-1, 6-1 (! scoreline, maybe Peliwo was really hampered by his wrist injury)

El Tabakh d. Rotaru, 6-1, 6-4

And Pospisil's ankle held up fine for a 6-3, 6-2 defeat of an unranked Kiwi.

Emeraldhands
07-28-2011, 01:49 AM
Hugo has a really good shot to make the Quarters here

FormerRafaFan
07-28-2011, 08:37 AM
Sokk, our thoughts and heartfelt sympathies are with you and all your fellow citizens.

Thanks for your support. It means a lot. I still can't believe all those kids died just because of one crazy guy. It's just so sad :sad:

Where are the Canadian players playing this week? Is there a future in Canada?

Emeraldhands
07-28-2011, 08:56 PM
There certainly is and most of the lesser (for now) canadian players are there. The bigger names are not playing this week, but it isn't because they aren't but because they can't (injured)

Snowwy
07-29-2011, 01:25 AM
Top three seeds through.

Gonzil
07-29-2011, 01:51 AM
Good effort too by Di Feo, even if he lost, getting to 3rd set TB.

FormerRafaFan
07-29-2011, 12:07 PM
There certainly is and most of the lesser (for now) canadian players are there. The bigger names are not playing this week, but it isn't because they aren't but because they can't (injured)

But Vasek is in Saskatoon for the future, right?

Snowwy
07-29-2011, 02:00 PM
Yes, Vasek is there.

Gonzil
07-29-2011, 10:17 PM
Emeraldhands is forgetting that Vasek is one of our biggest names now, at least in terms of rankings.

letshavefun3
07-30-2011, 12:56 AM
So Vasek, Erik and Steven are all in the semis for the Futures event this week.

misty1
07-30-2011, 12:59 AM
i do hate it when someone of vasek's rank plays a future event though, the guy is top 200.

Emeraldhands
07-30-2011, 01:10 AM
I think he was is just playing the futures to get back into form with that Ankle.

Emeraldhands
07-30-2011, 01:10 AM
Sorry if I offended anyone by saying Vasek is a second tier Canadian Player, forgot he was in the draw.

Emeraldhands
07-30-2011, 01:12 AM
Abanda into another G2 final, is she going to be the real deal, almost into the top 40 as a 14 year old.

FormerRafaFan
07-30-2011, 12:01 PM
I think he was is just playing the futures to get back into form with that Ankle.

I agree. I think he was just playing it because he wanted to get back into form with the ankle. And besides.. it was at home in Canada. I think it was a good decision to play in Saskatoon this week :)

BTW.. he complained about mosquitos. Is it really THAT bad? I know it's the praries and all, but yikes! :lol:

Snowwy
07-30-2011, 06:09 PM
Zach White is actually winning in his qualifying match against Rettemaier in Vancouver. Shocking.

letshavefun3
07-31-2011, 03:42 AM
Vancouver Open's men main draw is out. Chvojka plays Duclos first round and Diez faces 3rd seed Zemjla from Slovakia. Strange that four main draw WC were awarded but none to Canadians (all went to Americans).

Gonzil
07-31-2011, 03:44 AM
Strange that four main draw WC were awarded but none to Canadians (all went to Americans).

I think that happened last year too. Basically the tournament is owned by Americans, even if it happens to be located in Vancouver :D

Snowwy
07-31-2011, 01:06 PM
Can't believe David Martin got one over a Canadian.

Snowwy
07-31-2011, 03:54 PM
Daniel Chu is in the final round of qualifying in Vancouver. Wins over Dobson and Racz yesterday.

Gonzil
07-31-2011, 06:37 PM
This week our boys are playing in the World Junior Tennis U14 Finals in the Czech Republic. We are seeded 8, in a group with Spain, India and Romania. Unfortunately Romania has the #1 and #2 U14 boys in the Tennis Europe rankings, so the chance of getting past them is slim (putting it as optimistically as possible).

We have David Volfson (who seems to have spent his whole summer playing tennis in Europe), Alejandro Tabilo and Harrison Scott.

The link for anyone interested is http://itfjuniors.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=5F5FF27D-8D0E-4D5A-B4B6-9FB86636BF13&draw=20

Emeraldhands
07-31-2011, 08:27 PM
I think it is great that he is playing in Europe (Volfson). I don't think he would get pushed very much in ONtario. I think right now out of him and Tabilo he has the inside track right now as the better of the two. Don't know much about Scott, in a sense that I haven't seen much results from him.

Smoke944
08-01-2011, 04:18 PM
This week our boys are playing in the World Junior Tennis U14 Finals in the Czech Republic. We are seeded 8, in a group with Spain, India and Romania. Unfortunately Romania has the #1 and #2 U14 boys in the Tennis Europe rankings, so the chance of getting past them is slim (putting it as optimistically as possible).

We have David Volfson (who seems to have spent his whole summer playing tennis in Europe), Alejandro Tabilo and Harrison Scott.

The link for anyone interested is http://itfjuniors.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draw.aspx?id=5F5FF27D-8D0E-4D5A-B4B6-9FB86636BF13&draw=20

the livestream for this is fantastic. Better than all challenger streams and the majority of ATP ones. Definitely worth watching.
http://www.protenis.cz/livecam.html

Snowwy
08-01-2011, 04:21 PM
Who is that playing right now? Anyone know?

Smoke944
08-01-2011, 04:22 PM
Who is that playing right now? Anyone know?

Nope, just one of the teams, but I can't tell who :lol:

Snowwy
08-02-2011, 09:37 PM
Philip Bester, @VasekPospisil, Erik Chvojka & World no. 71 Bernard #Tomic have been awarded main draw wildcards for #couperogers

Gonzil
08-02-2011, 10:13 PM
Oh boy, not Tomic! How many WCs does the guy need? I wish that they had given it instead to Gulbis if they weren't giving it to Frank.

Great to see that Bester is fit enough to play (I hope he really is)

Snowwy
08-02-2011, 11:01 PM
Bahah Gulbis over Tomic? Laughable.

shuhrat
08-02-2011, 11:20 PM
I think there's only one explanation for this. "IMG" That's why ATP releases such meaningless news like 'Tomic signs up for Kuala Lumpur or Brisbane.' :o

Gonzil
08-02-2011, 11:29 PM
I think there's only one explanation for this. "IMG" That's why ATP releases such meaningless news like 'Tomic signs up for Kuala Lumpur or Brisbane.' :o

What does IMG explain? Why would Tennis Canada care? They run the Rogers Cup in order to make as much money as possible to support their operations for the rest of the year. So I understood WCs go to help Canadian tennis players or because they think it will help sell tickets. Where does IMG fit in?

Gonzil
08-02-2011, 11:36 PM
I guess Diez needs to work on his serve. He won just 3 out of 10 service games in his 1-6, 6-7 defeat, 39% on his first serve. Still I give him credit for extending the match - I thought he had lost much earlier.

Snowwy
08-02-2011, 11:42 PM
Almost got it to a third set.

shuhrat
08-03-2011, 12:07 AM
What does IMG explain? Why would Tennis Canada care? They run the Rogers Cup in order to make as much money as possible to support their operations for the rest of the year. So I understood WCs go to help Canadian tennis players or because they think it will help sell tickets. Where does IMG fit in?
To be honest, I haven't paid much attention to how Tennis Canada run this things, so I'm not saying it must be true. Though I get the feeling that Tennis Canada seem quite faithful to their own players, it's not implausible to think that ATP / a big management agency like IMG which have a great influence on ATP, may give a word on one WC in some ways. Of course, TC may simply have thought he could sell more tickets. Again, it's speculation, not a statement.

Gonzil
08-03-2011, 12:13 AM
To be honest, I haven't paid much attention to how Tennis Canada run this things, so I'm not saying it must be true. Though I get the feeling that Tennis Canada seem quite faithful to their own players, it's not implausible to think that ATP / a big management agency like IMG which have a great influence on ATP, may give a word on one WC in some ways. Of course, TC may simply have thought he could sell more tickets. Again, it's speculation, not a statement.

OK, thanks, Shuhrat. If they had listened last year to WTA or a big management company they probably would have avoided getting into such a mess about denying Ivanovic a WC, so maybe they have decided this year to do nothing without external guidance ;)

Snowwy
08-03-2011, 02:44 PM
Pokrajac won a tournament in Ottawa this weekend, says he is back but not in good shape right now, needs to work on that.

Sigma
08-04-2011, 09:40 AM
I'm a Canadian who lives in Prostejov, so every year I go and watch the World Junior Tennis Championships.

The Canadian players have done so well this year, but we lacking a little 'killer' instinct in doubles. Tabilo hasn't lost in singles yet, and defeated the European number two from Romania. Unfortunately, Volfson lost, and then in doubles they both looked deflated. If they beat Romania, I think they would have had a chance in finishing first.

On the first day, they lost the doubles match, and as a result lost 2-1 against India. Yesterday, they defeated Spain 2-1. It turned out to be a long day in the sun, but they won their doubles.

They finished third in their group, and will play for 9th-12th place now. Currently, they are leading Belarus 1-0 after Tabilo won the first singles. Volson will play next, and Harrison will make his first appearance at the tournament in doubles with Tabilo.