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Why the Australian Open is the best slam...

Pirata.
01-05-2011, 02:20 AM
http://i.imgur.com/QYrbV.png

:worship:

Already there is the ability to watch like seven or eight of the courts during the main draw in singles, doubles and mixed doubles, as well as the junior tournament, and now this. Amazing. Best slam by a long shot.

samjones
01-05-2011, 02:26 AM
:worship:

Already there is the ability to watch like seven or eight of the courts during the main draw in singles, doubles and mixed doubles, as well as the junior tournament, and now this. Amazing. Best slam by a long shot.

They got the nicest stadiums and grounds in tennis, that's for sure. Every time I think about I just can't believe that they can roll a roof over a lousy football team in Seattle but they can't manage to roll one over Ashe.

Pirata.
01-05-2011, 04:06 AM
AO just updated their twitter again, they will have free streaming access to four courts for qualifying :worship:

fast_clay
01-05-2011, 04:09 AM
They got the nicest stadiums and grounds in tennis, that's for sure. Every time I think about I just can't believe that they can roll a roof over a lousy football team in Seattle but they can't manage to roll one over Ashe.

i defies beleif... really...

all that cash... yet none who held it had vision...

Clay Death
01-05-2011, 04:12 AM
it is the best slam in so many ways and the best run slam.

it is right up there with roland garros for me. love them both but clay is sort of in my blood.

GlennMirnyi
01-05-2011, 04:13 AM
Well all this coverage is justified, being the AO the MM slam. Will it be on Disney Channel? :lol:

oranges
01-05-2011, 04:14 AM
Awesome.

rafa_maniac
01-05-2011, 04:23 AM
That's not the only reason. When I went to the US Open last year I couldn't believe how badly organized it was compared to the Oz Open. Also the stadiums are way better. the weather is great, and it's always exciting kicking off a new year, you never know how things are going to go. Definately the best Slam.

Thanos
01-05-2011, 04:44 AM
Well all this coverage is justified, being the AO the MM slam. Will it be on Disney Channel? :lol:

you should be banned for another year for this post alone.

fast_clay
01-05-2011, 04:58 AM
you should be banned for another year for this post alone.

yes, he is being very disrespectful...infract him at least

coonster14
01-05-2011, 05:10 AM
Aus Open rocks!!! I would so love to go there one day :)

The scheduling for the most part is good (with the exception of one or two cases), and from what my friends have told me, the facilities are very good.

The best thing about it is that there is always a surprise semifinalist or finalist (2006- Baghdatis, 2007- Gonzo, 2008- Tsonga, 2009- Nando, 2010- Cilic, 2011- ???) so that is why I often consider it the 'surprise slam'.

Clay Death
01-05-2011, 05:13 AM
i will be there fo sho. just a matter of time.

Action Jackson
01-05-2011, 05:19 AM
Well all this coverage is justified, being the AO the MM slam. Will it be on Disney Channel? :lol:

Heheh, never knew the AO had a 5th set tiebreak, Stupid Saturday or 3 day 1st round matches.

fast_clay
01-05-2011, 05:33 AM
The best thing about it is that there is always a surprise semifinalist or finalist (2006- Baghdatis, 2007- Gonzo, 2008- Tsonga, 2009- Nando, 2010- Cilic, 2011- ???) so that is why I often consider it the 'surprise slam'.

I consider US Open to be the surprise slam...very suprising nadal won there...

GlennMirnyi
01-05-2011, 05:53 AM
Heheh, never knew the AO had a 5th set tiebreak, Stupid Saturday or 3 day 1st round matches.

Well but the AO had Nadull as a fluke champion first. :p

GlennMirnyi
01-05-2011, 05:54 AM
you should be banned for another year for this post alone.

Well so should you for not knowing that pretty much nobody cared about the AO until the 80s. :)

Action Jackson
01-05-2011, 06:08 AM
Well but the AO had Nadull as a fluke champion first. :p

You already started the trolling :p

CmonAussie
01-05-2011, 06:21 AM
Well so should you for not knowing that pretty much nobody cared about the AO until the 80s. :)

:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Tell that to Fred Perry or Don Budge~~ they showed how much they didn`t care by taking a month by ship to go Down Under back in the 1930s:p >>Borg & McEnroe not showing up [neither of whom had much respect for the game (at the time)]~ did a lot of damage to AO in the late 70s-early 80s. Apart from those 5 years AO has been one of the Top-4 tourneys since 1905.!!;)

GlennMirnyi
01-05-2011, 06:22 AM
You already started the trolling :p

Just joking. :p

:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Tell that to Fred Perry or Don Budge~~ they showed how much they didn`t care by taking a month by ship to go Down Under back in the 1930s:p >>Borg & McEnroe not showing up [neither of whom had much respect for the game (at the time)]~ did a lot of damage to AO in the late 70s-early 80s. Apart from those 5 years AO has been one of the Top-4 tourneys since 1905.!!;)

It's a fact the AO is the least traditional of the 4 GS. :)

Action Jackson
01-05-2011, 06:23 AM
:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Tell that to Fred Perry or Don Budge~~ they showed how much they didn`t care by taking a month by ship to go Down Under back in the 1930s:p >>Borg & McEnroe not showing up [neither of whom had much respect for the game (at the time)]~ did a lot of damage to AO in the late 70s-early 80s. Apart from those 5 years AO has been one of the Top-4 tourneys since 1905.!!;)

http://www.oceanfreshbaits.com/Naturalcarpfood-EN/photos/foto5-artikel1-destexhemichiel.jpg

GlennMirnyi
01-05-2011, 06:25 AM
http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac73/ripplefisher/Mitsio%20august/AbiggreaterbarracudaX.jpg

Wow, what the hell? How did you find that pic? I thought I had deleted it from facebook! :o :haha:

CmonAussie
01-05-2011, 06:32 AM
Just joking. :p


It's a fact the AO is the least traditional of the 4 GS. :)
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That may be true~ but tell me what other tournament you would place above AO:confused: Better to be the 4th most prestigeous than Quatar, Dubai, Shanghai, Beijing~~ or any of the other hum drum money mountain tourneys:p Ask the pros what they`d rather win:p

GlennMirnyi
01-05-2011, 06:35 AM
~~~
That may be true~ but tell me what other tournament you would place above AO:confused: Better to be the 4th most prestigeous than Quatar, Dubai, Shanghai, Beijing~~ or any of the other hum drum money mountain tourneys:p Ask the pros what they`d rather win:p

Actually the way this is going, the AO may turn out to become #1 considering how pathetic the other slams have become.

careergrandslam
01-05-2011, 07:15 AM
the most prestigious slam is Wimbledon, then US open, then French, then Aussie

Pirata.
01-05-2011, 07:37 AM
careergrandslam, your sig gets more and more pretentious with every passing day :o

2003
01-05-2011, 08:15 AM
Well but the AO had Nadull as a fluke champion first. :p

Hopefully he doesnt fluke another this year, or the tards will be out saying he defended his 09 title as he was injured last year, just like they try and say he was defending champion at 2010 Wimbledon :o

Wonder if he will ever fluke a defense of a slam other than RG.

nadal_slam_king
01-05-2011, 08:22 AM
Hopefully he doesnt fluke another this year, or the tards will be out saying he defended his 09 title as he was injured last year, just like they try and say he was defending champion at 2010 Wimbledon :o

Wonder if he will ever fluke a defense of a slam other than RG.

If he doesn't he'll just have to settle for winning 4 slams in a row :o

Foxy
01-05-2011, 08:25 AM
Well all this coverage is justified, being the AO the MM slam. Will it be on Disney Channel? :lol:

I made a big party when you got banned last year. For sure I am looking forward to my next party! :rocker:

2003
01-05-2011, 08:34 AM
If he doesn't he'll just have to settle for winning 4 slams in a row :o

Not happening mate.

scoobs
01-05-2011, 08:39 AM
http://i.imgur.com/QYrbV.png

:worship:

Already there is the ability to watch like seven or eight of the courts during the main draw in singles, doubles and mixed doubles, as well as the junior tournament, and now this. Amazing. Best slam by a long shot.
Sounds good if the streams are available internationally - the main tournament feeds aren't.

Topspindoctor
01-05-2011, 08:52 AM
Well all this coverage is justified, being the AO the MM slam. Will it be on Disney Channel? :lol:

At least we have a slam.

What tennis tournaments of relevance are there in Brazil? :awww:

nadal_slam_king
01-05-2011, 10:57 AM
Not happening mate.

He's the Australian Open favorite mate :yeah:

Nole fan
01-05-2011, 12:57 PM
Right there with US Open. Something about USo that I love and I can't quite grasp. :scratch:
But yeah, AO is my favorite slam too. Only if it was closer...

sabina_RF_lee
01-05-2011, 01:11 PM
I agree that its the best slam, I also love Wimbledon...these 2 slams bests

nadal_slam_king
01-05-2011, 01:12 PM
I only like 3 slams, don't like the US Open - it has nothing going for it.

samjones
01-05-2011, 01:34 PM
That's not the only reason. When I went to the US Open last year I couldn't believe how badly organized it was compared to the Oz Open. Also the stadiums are way better. the weather is great, and it's always exciting kicking off a new year, you never know how things are going to go. Definately the best Slam.

The weather at AO is too hot. That's why they're constantly talking about moving it. The weather at USO *IS* great. It is simply a great time to be in New York. It rains in New York, just like it does in London and Paris - but that isn't the time of year typically known for getting the most rain.

Ashe is a stunning stadium. I would roll a roof over it, but nothing more. Armstrong is also awesome - so much history there. I wouldn't tear that down. In the meantime, Flushing Meadows is a dump and it's too big. It would make total sense for USO to take over another chunk of that for a retractable roof multi-purpose arena.

Until then we'll still deal with these bizarre ticketing strategies where you have to either buy a reserved ticket for Ashe or a reserved ticket for Armstrong of else you'd better be ready to wait on line for 45 minutes if you want to see anybody good play. It really does suck.

USO is certainly the most prestigious hard court tournament in the world. It really is an awesome event. It just need a face lift - like Wimbledon and AO got and RG will get. Sometimes I think that we've lost the "if you build it they will come" spirit in America.

nadal_slam_king
01-05-2011, 01:45 PM
^^They talk about moving the Australian Open? As in a different location? That would mean a different country, since Victoria has the coldest climate in Australia (or 2nd coldest to Tasmania). I had actually only heard about them moving it to another month, like March or something. And that talk didn't last long because Australian Open organizers know that all kids are at school in March, so it wouldn't work out.

I think the hot weather is an asset, not a problem. It challenges tennis players the way they should be challenged, unless tennis is supposed to be an easy sport physically. If tennis players are supposed to be among the best athletes in the world then hot weather should be seen as a chance to prove it. And if you take that away from the Australian Open then you lose a lot of the character of this slam, and it looks like just another US Open.

Plus its not like the Australian Open is always hot anyway, and at least they have the roof. The thing stopping any move would be the world-leading tennis facilities the AO has. Better than any of the other slams.

Clay Death
01-05-2011, 01:51 PM
my 4 favorite slams:

roland garros and Oz and i dont remember the other 2.

FormerRafaFan
01-05-2011, 02:28 PM
I like Australian Open and Wimbledon the most.. definitely the slams with the best atmosphere and crowds. The crowd at USO isn't so bad either, but the atmosphere is kinda blah.. I've always considered that slam as kinda boring. I also don't like the French Open, because of the biased and awful French Crowd.

So yeah, AO is a good slam imo :D

Johnny Groove
01-05-2011, 02:48 PM
The way I see it, each slam has a unique persona, which is good for the game.

The AO, the first slam to kick off the year, rewards those who worked hard over the offseason. Fair court speed and bounce, excellent crowds, well run and marketed, the modern slam if nothing else.

Roland Garros and Wimbledon both reek of tradition, in the good way. The French crowds are wild, they can be disgusting or they can be incredible. The atmosphere at the French is always awesome, especially in 09 or in years where the champ wasn't always pre-determined. RG 2004 final for instance or any French before that.

Wimbledon is the cathedral of the game. Naysayers and bitches will whine about the court speed and bounce and it was better back in the day wah wah wah. At the end of the day, grass is still grass, Wimbledon is still Wimbledon, and I think it is the most prestigious event in the world.

The USO I think reflects the American people. We are a fast-paced society, but that sometimes isn't the best thing. Cutting away during trophy ceremonies to make sure that 60 Minutes doesn't kick on late on CBS is a joke, sure, the coverage can be clownish, no roof on Ashe sucks, it can be rainy and windy, and New York City has the habit of either embracing you or throwing you a middle finger. Not much wiggle room. But it is the American slam, and there is nothing like a great night match at the USO.

Nole fan
01-05-2011, 03:31 PM
Great analysis Groove Dude, I think you're actually right. :yeah:
But I think each slam has its own attraction and charisma. I even think WTF in London should be the fifth slam. Great atmosphere and only the best play there.

GlennMirnyi
01-05-2011, 03:36 PM
At least we have a slam.

What tennis tournaments of relevance are there in Brazil? :awww:

Who cares?

Since 2000 Australia hasn't won any more GS titles than Brazil. :lol: And soon you won't even have a top 100 player. How's tennis going for you GS guys? :lol:

Sonja1989
01-05-2011, 06:40 PM
The best GS is a Wimbledon for me. :)

samjones
01-05-2011, 07:06 PM
^^They talk about moving the Australian Open? As in a different location? That would mean a different country, since Victoria has the coldest climate in Australia (or 2nd coldest to Tasmania). I had actually only heard about them moving it to another month, like March or something. And that talk didn't last long because Australian Open organizers know that all kids are at school in March, so it wouldn't work out.

I think the hot weather is an asset, not a problem. It challenges tennis players the way they should be challenged, unless tennis is supposed to be a an easy sport physically. If tennis players are supposed to be among the best athletes in the world then hot weather should be seen as a chance to prove it. And if you take that away from the Australian Open then you lose a lot of the character of this slam, and it looks like just another US Open.

Plus its not like the Australian Open is always hot anyway, and at least they have the roof. The thing stopping any move would be the world-leading tennis facilities the AO has. Better than any of the other slams.

They've talked forever about moving it to a different week in summer. I 100% disagree that an athlete should be intentionally challenged to deal with weather inappropriate for the game that they are playing. I 100% disagree that this is the way to prove who is a more skilled athlete or a better competitor.

Chartreuse
01-05-2011, 07:58 PM
My 2 favorite slams are the AO and Wimbledon. The crowds are the best. Absolutely fantastic.

V.H.
01-05-2011, 08:18 PM
My favourite Slam :)

Holmzy
01-05-2011, 08:51 PM
Are they definitley streaming the qualifiers? Can someone confirm this with a link to an article or something?

Pirata.
01-05-2011, 10:06 PM
No article on their site, but the official Twitter has mentioned it a few times already: AustralianOpen (http://twitter.com/AustralianOpen)

They said four courts streaming qualies and streams will be available worldwide...

oranges
01-05-2011, 10:25 PM
There is probably no issue with TV rights for qualies so they can offer it worldwide, unlike MD matches. Nice, very nice :)

nadal_slam_king
01-06-2011, 04:29 AM
They've talked forever about moving it to a different week in summer. I 100% disagree that an athlete should be intentionally challenged to deal with weather inappropriate for the game that they are playing. I 100% disagree that this is the way to prove who is a more skilled athlete or a better competitor.

Tennis is an outdoor sport, so hot weather is obviously appropriate, and the temperatures reached at the US Open are often very similar to those at the Australian Open. It's just that the AO has the potential to reach higher temperatures and sometimes does. Each slam should have its own characteristics, and the AO should be about conditioning, it's a great part of tennis.

Start da Game
01-06-2011, 04:40 AM
because it produces classics like this,

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/197578-federer_cry.jpg

Snowwy
01-06-2011, 04:42 AM
They've talked forever about moving it to a different week in summer. I 100% disagree that an athlete should be intentionally challenged to deal with weather inappropriate for the game that they are playing. I 100% disagree that this is the way to prove who is a more skilled athlete or a better competitor.

If you can't deal with the conditions go home.

Next we will have tennis matches where there are no fans because they intentionally challenge the ahtletes, one more than another and that is clearly not fair. :angel:

Pirata.
01-07-2011, 02:03 AM
Shut up Start da Game.

ANYWAY.

http://www.footfault.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/AO.jpg

:yeah:

nadal_slam_king
01-07-2011, 03:52 AM
Shut up Start da Game.

ANYWAY.

http://www.footfault.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/AO.jpg

:yeah:

Wow that's incredible for those not able to get live coverage, very generous slam site.

fast_clay
01-07-2011, 03:57 AM
Wow that's incredible for those not able to get live coverage, very generous slam site.

its the way it should be... it merely takes setting up gear earlier and that's pretty much it... shitty challenger events way out in Bumfuk, Nowhere manage a telecast, so it should not be too much of an ask for a GS to do it imo...

...and it starts to, in some small fashion, make up for the constant molestation of the sport by commercial networks...

good to see oz leading the way tho... :yeah:

nadal_slam_king
01-07-2011, 04:06 AM
its the way it should be... it merely takes setting up gear earlier and that's pretty much it... shitty challenger events way out in Bumfuk, Nowhere manage a telecast, so it should not be too much of an ask for a GS to do it imo...

...and it starts to, in some small fashion, make up for the constant molestation of the sport by commercial networks...

good to see oz leading the way tho... :yeah:

Yeah incredible

Start da Game
01-07-2011, 04:14 AM
these might be two of the reasons why australian open seems to be more exciting than any other slam........

1. the three other slams are played in a span of under 4 months.......so that makes australian open the only slam in a period of over 8 months........now that increases the enthusiasm........on that token, french open(the starting one of the 3 other slams) too should enjoy just as much excitement and eagerness from the followers but clay tennis is not for an average tennis fan........

2. being the first slam of the year and players coming off rest from the off season, it somewhat lessens the gap between the top players and lesser players, current-form wise........perhaps that's the reason why we see a lot of exciting matches in the first week........you know when the top guns are deep into the season and striking well, lesser players do not stand much chance........

General Suburbia
01-07-2011, 04:26 AM
Who cares?

Since 2000 Australia hasn't won any more GS titles than Brazil. :lol: And soon you won't even have a top 100 player. How's tennis going for you GS guys? :lol:
I find it ironic that you bash the AO for traditionally being the least relevant slam in the past while simultaneously bashing Australian players in spite of their history of success.

fast_clay
01-07-2011, 04:35 AM
2. being the first slam of the year and players coming off rest from the off season

forever felt that this is the key to why you get super match-ups all tournament long... all players are very suitably rested... maybe you dont get the dream final as often, but you without a shadow of a doubt get match-ups featuring high quality tennis for 14 days... pound for pound vs the other grand slam matches its better value... i'd say your more likely to walk from one cracking match and stumble into another at the AO than the other three slams...

GlennMirnyi
01-07-2011, 04:40 AM
I find it ironic that you bash the AO for traditionally being the least relevant slam in the past while simultaneously bashing Australian players in spite of their history of success.

I'm not bashing Australian players. I've always been a huge fan of some of them, like Rafter.

I just showed the guy who tried to criticise Brazil that having a GS isn't actually doing anything at all for Australian tennis.

Clay Death
01-07-2011, 04:47 AM
these might be two of the reasons why australian open seems to be more exciting than any other slam........

1. the three other slams are played in a span of under 4 months.......so that makes australian open the only slam in a period of over 8 months........now that increases the enthusiasm........on that token, french open(the starting one of the 3 other slams) too should enjoy just as much excitement and eagerness from the followers but clay tennis is not for an average tennis fan........

2. being the first slam of the year and players coming off rest from the off season, it somewhat lessens the gap between the top players and lesser players, current-form wise........perhaps that's the reason why we see a lot of exciting matches in the first week........you know when the top guns are deep into the season and striking well, lesser players do not stand much chance........

excellent stuff. very well articulated and stated.

fast_clay
01-07-2011, 04:54 AM
I just showed the guy who tried to criticise Brazil that having a GS isn't actually doing anything at all for Australian tennis.

it's true, for the revenue and massive popularity the AO is able to generate at home, we havent capitalised upon the talent pool as well as we might have for one reason or another, reasons that i would not care to expand upon due to an inner fed-like rage causing me to injure myself...

Pirata.
01-11-2011, 11:50 PM
AO only streaming one court instead of four like they initially said :o

But the stream is available now http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/video/live.html

abraxas21
01-11-2011, 11:56 PM
it's true, for the revenue and massive popularity the AO is able to generate at home, we havent capitalised upon the talent pool as well as we might have for one reason or another, reasons that i would not care to expand upon due to an inner fed-like rage causing me to injure myself...

it's interesting that the nations that host GS haven't had many GS winning players lately. only Hewitt and Roddick have 1 out of active players. when they retire, we might reach a time in which we don't have any active GS winners from the countries that host GS events. Don't think that has ever happened before in the history of tennis.

Thanos
01-12-2011, 01:54 AM
AO only streaming one court instead of four like they initially said :o

But the stream is available now http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/video/live.html

yeah i was wondering why i could only find matt reid stream. it was expected considering they have to put cameras in place etc... they won't be making money of this.