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WWW Abu 'the 5th Slam' Dhabi: Federer vs. Nadal

Lleyton_
12-31-2010, 03:11 PM
Winner will be the overwhelming favorite for AO.

Topspindoctor
12-31-2010, 03:15 PM
Winner will be the overwhelming favorite for AO.

lol...........

Luinir
12-31-2010, 03:16 PM
Rafa.

Certinfy
12-31-2010, 03:16 PM
This is why we needed Berdych vs Federer and Nadal vs Soderling tomorrow and not this shit!

iriraz
12-31-2010, 03:22 PM
does anyone know the amount of the winner's cheque?

Certainly the appearance fees are much higher then the actual prize money.

barbadosan
12-31-2010, 03:26 PM
OP should have put another option in: WTHC

Sillyrabbit
12-31-2010, 03:31 PM
Winner will be the overwhelming favorite for AO.

:lol: Doubt it.

Sham Kay
12-31-2010, 03:33 PM
Their wallets.

Pfloyd
12-31-2010, 03:39 PM
Yeah, another pointless exhibition.

At least this one is not pre-detetermined.

Should be fun to watch, but meaningless.

Helevorn
12-31-2010, 03:41 PM
Their wallets.

Agree.

Anyway, winner takes $250,000.

madmax
12-31-2010, 03:46 PM
Another crap exho:yawn:
The REAL tennis can't start soon enough

Corey Feldman
12-31-2010, 03:59 PM
another match between the legends :hearts:

Federer & Nadal = best rivals ever

Roger & Rafa = best friends ever.

Luinir
12-31-2010, 04:00 PM
nadal is just too good for federer. nadal will win in 2.

fast_clay
12-31-2010, 04:02 PM
this match is probably gonna be won by either one of these guys... good luck

vn01
12-31-2010, 04:03 PM
Federer. :sad:

Rafa is the GOAT
12-31-2010, 04:06 PM
I will go with Rafa in 3.
PS: there is already a tread about this but the other tread has no set choises in his polls;)

Luinir
12-31-2010, 04:07 PM
trust your legend, vn01.

vn01
12-31-2010, 04:10 PM
I think that Federer will win. :sad:

But I hope Rafa beats Fedclown. :worship: VAMOS!

Luinir
12-31-2010, 04:16 PM
Even vote says "14-8"

Lleyton_
12-31-2010, 04:19 PM
Even vote says "14-8"

Are you trying to break the record for most posts in a thread?

Sillyrabbit
12-31-2010, 04:25 PM
this match is probably gonna be won by either one of these guys... good luck

Nah, you can never know. Tennis is really unpredictable.

Topspindoctor
12-31-2010, 04:34 PM
Olderer will go all out. He needs the prize money to keep Mirka well fed.

rafa_maniac
12-31-2010, 04:37 PM
Rogael Fedal.

Foxy
12-31-2010, 05:00 PM
I am not impressed by Rafa's level of play. It seems he hasn't improved anything in the off-season. The big disappointment is the big serve is gone since Tokyo and probably will never come back. Fed wins this match just by using his serve better. But this will not have any impact on their AO 2011 meeting should they get that far.

nadal_slam_king
12-31-2010, 05:04 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/tennis/news?slug=ap-abudhabi
Nadal cruised to a 4-1 lead in the second, breaking Berdych twice before the 25-year-old Czech took the next two games to make it 4-3. But Berdych’s comeback fell short and Nadal closed out the match with a forehand that the Czech returned into the net.

In the final Saturday, the Nadal will face Roger Federer. He defeated Robin Soderling 6-7 (3), 6-3, 6-3.

Awesome new nickname "THE NADAL" :D

nadal_slam_king
12-31-2010, 05:06 PM
I am not impressed by Rafa's level of play. It seems he hasn't improved anything in the off-season. The big disappointment is the big serve is gone since Tokyo and probably will never come back. Fed wins this match just by using his serve better. But this will not have any impact on their AO 2011 meeting should they get that far.

He shouldn't serve fast on a regular basis, he should use it as a surprise tactic. Plus the AO surface helps his high-bouncing serves more than the USO so he probably won't try to serve as fast. But its there if he needs it, the grip change allows it.

Roger the Dodger
12-31-2010, 05:21 PM
I am not impressed by Rafa's level of play. It seems he hasn't improved anything in the off-season. The big disappointment is the big serve is gone since Tokyo and probably will never come back. Fed wins this match just by using his serve better. But this will not have any impact on their AO 2011 meeting should they get that far.

Stop judging him from what you've seen of him from one match.

swisht4u
12-31-2010, 05:23 PM
I am not impressed by Rafa's level of play. It seems he hasn't improved anything in the off-season. The big disappointment is the big serve is gone since Tokyo and probably will never come back. Fed wins this match just by using his serve better. But this will not have any impact on their AO 2011 meeting should they get that far.

He'll be in good shape for the AO, there's nothing to worry about.
I'm not sure about the serve though, it could be causing him problems and he may have to use it sparingly.

Mungo
12-31-2010, 05:37 PM
Winner will be the overwhelming favorite for AO.

And the winner in Doha will be the GOAT, no matter what!

Mungo
12-31-2010, 05:42 PM
I am not impressed by Rafa's level of play. It seems he hasn't improved anything in the off-season. The big disappointment is the big serve is gone since Tokyo and probably will never come back. Fed wins this match just by using his serve better. But this will not have any impact on their AO 2011 meeting should they get that far.

LOL what a clown! Nadal has consolidated his serve since the US Open, he proved it again in the WTF beating Djokovic, Murray and others. His improved serve will always be there. He is still warming up here. What do you expect to improve in 2 weeks of practice? It's Federer the one that needs to improve now dude and he did not today. Nadal's level of play in 2010 was head and shoulders above the rest.

Nadull_tard
12-31-2010, 05:44 PM
I hope Federer is going to tank this useless exho.

Allez
12-31-2010, 06:13 PM
We admire Rogi's army of faithful fans :yeah:

DrJules
12-31-2010, 06:13 PM
Winner will be the overwhelming favorite for AO.

Like last year when Federer lost to Soderling in the semi-final and Nadal won the final here and then did not win the AO.

Nadull_tard
12-31-2010, 06:22 PM
We admire Rogi's army of faithful fans :yeah:

It's a fucking exho, man. Even is Fed gets ripped by Nadull with a double-bagel, no one reasonable will care. AO is the thing what counts, not the Abu Dollari Slam.

Commander Data
12-31-2010, 06:23 PM
the more skillful player should finally overcome his demons.

Gabe32
12-31-2010, 06:24 PM
Is there anywhere to watch this? It's not on Tennis Channel.

Nadull_tard
12-31-2010, 06:29 PM
the more skillful player should finally overcome his demons.

He has done it in London, remember?

barbadosan
12-31-2010, 06:32 PM
Is there anywhere to watch this? It's not on Tennis Channel.

http://www.livescorehunter.com/Livescores/Livescore-Tennis.html

you can also set your time zone on the right hand side, so you don't miss it

luie
12-31-2010, 06:33 PM
LOL what a clown! Nadal has consolidated his serve since the US Open, he proved it again in the WTF beating Djokovic, Murray and others. His improved serve will always be there. He is still warming up here. What do you expect to improve in 2 weeks of practice? It's Federer the one that needs to improve now dude and he did not today. Nadal's level of play in 2010 was head and shoulders above the rest.
In the past nadull had no problem beating the likes of berdych/fed when he was using the serve to start the point from an advantageous position,his forehand did the rest.
However nadull needs the BIG USO serve in order to get lots of free points to prolong his career to challenge for the GS record.
In short nadull doesn't need a big serve to win matches against anybody,but to win more easily when looking @ the bigger picture.

Nadull_tard
12-31-2010, 06:39 PM
Well, not exactly. Nadull had a impressive serve only during USO, on the Asian Swing he returned to a typical high percentage/low speed/harmless serving.

Priam
12-31-2010, 06:43 PM
Foolish for either to go all-out in this match. Doha would be a better place.

barbadosan
12-31-2010, 06:45 PM
I am not impressed by Rafa's level of play. It seems he hasn't improved anything in the off-season. The big disappointment is the big serve is gone since Tokyo and probably will never come back. Fed wins this match just by using his serve better. But this will not have any impact on their AO 2011 meeting should they get that far.

LOL what a clown! Nadal has consolidated his serve since the US Open, he proved it again in the WTF beating Djokovic, Murray and others. His improved serve will always be there. He is still warming up here. What do you expect to improve in 2 weeks of practice? It's Federer the one that needs to improve now dude and he did not today. Nadal's level of play in 2010 was head and shoulders above the rest.

Wow, newcomer Rafatard turning on one of the longest, most established Rafa fans on MTF?
Mirabile dictu :eek::angel:

Commander Data
12-31-2010, 06:50 PM
He has done it in London, remember?

we will see, fed needs to beat nadal in gs to convince me.

ApproachShot
12-31-2010, 06:51 PM
I'm not expecting a blow-away performance from either of them with Doha and the AO around the corner, so this should be a tight match. I think it will be a bit more competitive than their charity matches before Christmas but one would be foolish to make inferences about the Australian Open based upon tomorrow's match.

I like watching exhibition matches between these two. They are the only instances where Fedal fans get treated to a masterclass of tennis without having to fret about the outcome.

Nadull_tard
12-31-2010, 06:53 PM
we will see, fed needs to beat nadal in gs to convince me.

So what's the point of winning this Abu Shitty If only a GS victory can convince you?....

luie
12-31-2010, 06:58 PM
Well, not exactly. Nadull had a impressive serve only during USO, on the Asian Swing he returned to a typical high percentage/low speed/harmless serving.
Well with his Bigger serve he was winning against hapless mugs more easily/ he would beat them with any serve imo.However I wasn't impressed with his so called "new" serve because he was beating players with no return games...He wasn't broken untill the final, however he was broken 3 times in 1 match in the final against a good returner..Since then he has been broken multiple times to players/type of play he usually loses to, So for me the jury is still out on the "effectiveness" of this improved serve.

Nadull_tard
12-31-2010, 07:02 PM
Well with his Bigger serve he was winning against hapless mugs more easily/ he would beat them with any serve imo.However I wasn't impressed with his so called "new" serve because he was beating players with no return games...He wasn't broken untill the final, however he was broken 3 times in 1 match in the final against a good returner..Since then he has been broken multiple times to players/type of play he usually loses to, So for me the jury is still out on the "effectiveness" of this improved serve.

Agreed, and that's why I'm amused when I hear that Nadal USO 2010 would destroy Del Potro in GodMode . It's bullshit, JMDP would reach 70% of those "huge" serves and place them on Nadal's half with ease.

HDW
12-31-2010, 07:14 PM
Federer will win me thinks, wont change the fact that nadal will be favorite for AO

Sapeod
12-31-2010, 07:20 PM
Regardless of the result, Federer is the favourite for the US Open if he continues his form from the end of last year.

luie
12-31-2010, 07:20 PM
Agreed, and that's why I'm amused when I hear that Nadal USO 2010 would destroy Del Potro in GodMode . It's bullshit, JMDP would reach 70% of those "huge" serves and place them on Nadal's half with ease.
Nadull is a better overall HC player than del-po,however Del-po is such a nasty match-up for him, highly unlikely he could beat del-po in a slam on HC,del-po was beginning to own him before he got injured.
Murray & fed would rather nadull play with a faster serve as it would mean less "pace" they would have to generate for themselves-- speaking of fed bh & Murray fh.
Murray & fed both broke him multiple times @ the YEC.

Roger the Dodger
12-31-2010, 07:20 PM
Too many encounters of late between them for my liking anyways.

Nadull_tard
12-31-2010, 07:34 PM
Too many encounters of late between them for my liking anyways.

What a relief that 2006 is over. They were facing each other almost week after week from Dubai to Wimbledon.

luie
12-31-2010, 07:39 PM
Too many encounters of late between them for my liking anyways.
Not really they have always played on average 2/3 matches a year since 2005.
The talk of ownership of nadull over fed stemmed from 9 months of match play from April 08-January 09.
Fed went 5-0 against nadull on all-surfaces,including 3 GS.
It was pretty much the same before n' after winning on their prefered surface or losing before they could play each other.
There has never been a consistent pattern of domination apart from clay overall.
Unfortunately or fortunately thats tennis a bad couple of months could have consequences for your career either positive or negative.

alfonsojose
12-31-2010, 07:49 PM
Praying for someone to step up at AO. It feels like Venus vs. Serena 2002 :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

luie
12-31-2010, 08:03 PM
Praying for someone to step up at AO. It feels like Venus vs. Serena 2002 :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
Koyla will save tennis:D

Clay Death
12-31-2010, 08:09 PM
tennis is saving tennis.

Olorin
12-31-2010, 08:11 PM
Does anyone know what time the final will be played ?

Roger the Dodger
12-31-2010, 08:17 PM
What a relief that 2006 is over. They were facing each other almost week after week from Dubai to Wimbledon.

Heaven help us if that ever happens again now that Nadal has improved on hard courts.

3-4 encounters a year had vintage taste.

LinkMage
12-31-2010, 08:43 PM
Time for Rafito to add one more Slam to his collection and his 2nd Abu Dhabi GS.

Tomorrow will be 16 to 11.

Rafa has RG and Wimbledon in the bag already, so it will be 16 to 13.

Fedmug is done. VAMOSSS!!!! :D

Olorin
12-31-2010, 09:34 PM
Sorry to interrupt, just wanted to ask : when the FUCK is Federer playing against Nadal tomorrow ? If someone could please give me a fucking answer in a polite and respectful manner I would really, really appreciate it. Thank you so very much.

For fuck's sake.

barbadosan
12-31-2010, 09:57 PM
You know, the same time you took to type all that garbage you could just have googled abu dhabi tennis

loopback
12-31-2010, 10:10 PM
Sorry to interrupt, just wanted to ask : when the FUCK is Federer playing against Nadal tomorrow ? If someone could please give me a fucking answer in a polite and respectful manner I would really, really appreciate it. Thank you so very much.

For fuck's sake.

http://www.flashscore.com/tennis/

01/01 Sa

Olorin
12-31-2010, 10:11 PM
You know, in the same time you took to compose that garbage you could have simply said what time the match was playing tomorrow. Why make things more complicated ?

Olorin
12-31-2010, 10:12 PM
Thanks loopback. Happy New Year to all ! :)

barbadosan
12-31-2010, 10:14 PM
You know, in the same time you took to compose that garbage you could have simply said what time the match was playing tomorrow. Why make things more complicated ?

No.. because I did it before - treating your outburst as perhaps a one-off tantrum, but you've come back with the same rudeness and then have the NERVE to eexpect a polite answer ..pshaw

Roamed
12-31-2010, 10:21 PM
Neither of them will use the same tactics that they would use were they to meet at the AO. I'd guess Rafa to win in 3. Hopefully they don't meet in Doha too...

Nadull_tard
12-31-2010, 10:37 PM
Neither of them will use the same tactics that they would use were they to meet at the AO. I'd guess Rafa to win in 3. Hopefully they don't meet in Doha too...

Fedal final in Doha is determined by the completely unbalanced start list of this tournament.

Olorin
12-31-2010, 10:38 PM
Yes, but I am allowed to have an outburst once or twice when I hardly even post around here. I only post once or twice every six months so I'm pretty much entitled to have an outburst since NO ONE will even remember the outburst tomorrow. Since when did you start caring about etiquette anyway ? Ag, never mind.

RedHotRafa
12-31-2010, 10:43 PM
Regardless of the result, Federer is the favourite for the US Open if he continues his form from the end of last year.

You mean Aussie?

osmonde
12-31-2010, 11:03 PM
The vote is presently: 50%-50%...as the fans are maybe.
Could go either way when those 2 meet on court.
Always good tennis anyway.
Happy New Year of tennis everyone.

Pirata.
12-31-2010, 11:17 PM
Cincinnati is the fifth slam.

Filo V.
12-31-2010, 11:18 PM
I'm thinking Nadal. I think Rafa wants the win more. Also, the outdoor factor. Rafa has a great record v Roger outdoors, and was two games in 2005 Miami from being 4-0 on outdoor hard v Roger. So, with these factors, I think he'll win.

With that said, this is an exhibition, so it really holds no weight.

nadal_slam_king
12-31-2010, 11:39 PM
He'll be in good shape for the AO, there's nothing to worry about.
I'm not sure about the serve though, it could be causing him problems and he may have to use it sparingly.

I think Rafa didn't want to play Paris. I don't think he really had shoulder tendinitis, he just didn't want to overplay leading into wtf.

And I don't think he'll serve at full speed in non-slams anyway (as RedHotRafa has said), so his opponents won't get used to it tactically.

Pirata.
01-01-2011, 12:31 AM
And I don't think he'll serve at full speed in non-slams anyway (as RedHotRafa has said), so his opponents won't get used to it tactically.

If he starts using it for AO, wouldn't his future opponents realize that he's saving it for Slams, so by the time Wimbledon or USO come around, they'll just expect him to use the big serve? (not RG, as probably no one could even take a set off him there with a 50 mph serve except maybe Fed)

swisht4u
01-01-2011, 12:36 AM
I think Rafa didn't want to play Paris. I don't think he really had shoulder tendinitis, he just didn't want to overplay leading into wtf.

And I don't think he'll serve at full speed in non-slams anyway (as RedHotRafa has said), so his opponents won't get used to it tactically.

I wondered about that, I had the feeling he just didn't want to play also.

nadal_slam_king
01-01-2011, 02:46 AM
If he starts using it for AO, wouldn't his future opponents realize that he's saving it for Slams, so by the time Wimbledon or USO come around, they'll just expect him to use the big serve? (not RG, as probably no one could even take a set off him there with a 50 mph serve except maybe Fed)

I don't think he'll use the flat serve as much at AO, it's a bouncy surface so using the bounce is a better idea - but he might, cos in 2009 AO vs Simon he refused to play a 2-handed backhand for the entire match, he sliced everything, so you never know what he'll decide depending on the opponent. Use it at US Open and MAYBE Wimbledon. Doesn't matter whether the opponents foresee it or not, they just won't be as comfortable with it, because usually when they've played Rafa they had certain things to worry about, and now they got the fast serve to worry about too and that additive to the arsenal will be enough to hurt them tactically, even if they expect it (at the US Open/Wimbledon). So the main thing is the opponents won't get to play Rafa often enough with the fast serve if he only uses it at some slams so it'll feel like too much of a handful when he does implement it.

I wondered about that, I had the feeling he just didn't want to play also.

Yeah, I just couldn't see the logic in playing Paris. He can skip Masters events with tendonitis or 'exhaustion' anytime, and he should:yeah:

fast_clay
01-01-2011, 03:44 AM
this date is where the Compaq Glad Slam Cup shouldve been... as a warm up to oz....woulda worked then... could work in abu dhabi