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2010 Rankings by surface and Slam results

n8
12-29-2010, 05:54 AM
Follows is a table of the top 25 players and their 2010 ranking in each category; clay court points, grass court points, hard court points, indoor points and Grand Slam points.

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Please note that the rankings only take into this year's tour level results. I also omitted Davis Cup and World Team Championship points due to the dependency on team mates. For my discussion of the table and the complete method I used to come up with these rankings see my article (http://statracket.net/?view=articles/2010category.html).

RedHotRafa
12-29-2010, 06:23 AM
Great Thread, Thanks!

Pirata.
12-29-2010, 07:43 AM
Ferrer #2 on clay :worship:

No #5, but I'm thinking it's Ferrero?

Stelle
12-29-2010, 09:18 AM
Thanks! Good thread!

Jaz
12-29-2010, 09:32 AM
Berdshit #2
and ferret #2

Strong era

MIMIC
12-29-2010, 09:34 AM
Very nice.

As far as clay results are concerned, Murray might as well be American :p

Djokovic is disgustingly consistent: not really going backwards and not really going forwards. Wouldn't be surprised if he made the 2011 French Open final and then went out in the 4th round at the U.S. Open. When he disappoints, he always seems to compensate for it.

Certinfy
12-29-2010, 12:19 PM
:haha: At some of those.

Nice work dude :yeah:

federated
12-29-2010, 12:20 PM
Awesome, thanks for doing this!

acionescu
12-29-2010, 12:22 PM
rather bad results for Nole on clay :eek: Not that I'm complaining :D

federated
12-29-2010, 12:24 PM
Ouch, Murray on clay.:spit:

n8
12-29-2010, 12:47 PM
Great Thread, Thanks!

Thanks! Good thread!

Very nice.

Nice work dude :yeah:

Awesome, thanks for doing this!

So nice to get all this positive feeback! Thanks heaps people.

Ferrer #2 on clay :worship:

No #5, but I'm thinking it's Ferrero?

Correct, Ferrero (ranked 29) is 5th on clay. Other players outside the top 25 who placed top 15 in a category are:

Hewitt - 8th on grass, 54th overall
Lu - equal 9th on grass, 35th overall
Bellucci - 12th on clay, 31st overall
Chela - 13th on clay, 38th overall
Stakhovsky - 13th on grass, 46th overall
Simon - 13th indoors, 41st overall
Benneteau - 14th on grass, 44 overall

Only top 25 players ranked top 15 in Slams. Special mentions to Hewitt who ranked 17th in Slams, 54th overall and Mathieu who ranked tied 27th in Slams and 97th overall.

Serenidad
12-29-2010, 01:28 PM
Can we get Brands stats please? :zzz:

Sauletekis
12-29-2010, 03:45 PM
LOL at Roddick being a former No.1 as his completely useless in clay. I bet he wouldn't be able to win even a Challenger tournament in Clay...

Johnny Groove
12-29-2010, 03:50 PM
Good work, man :yeah:

vn01
12-29-2010, 04:06 PM
Federer 5th on grass. I never believed that can happen anything like it. ;)

RedHotRafa
12-29-2010, 04:59 PM
I loled at Lu at #9

n8
12-29-2010, 11:49 PM
Can we get Brands stats please? :zzz:

Yep. Brands is equal 17th on grass and equal 36th in Slams (overall rank of 104). He is outside the top 50 in the other categories.

coonster14
12-29-2010, 11:52 PM
SR, as usual, great work, keep it up! :worship:

puppy555
12-30-2010, 01:59 AM
Grass is basically all Wimby :o interesting stats for the other surfaces though.

stebs
12-30-2010, 10:54 AM
Very nice stats, do you have these for previous years as well? I would be interested to see.

Top 15 players account for 15 of the top 16 slam performers. Just validates the view that the slams are the most important thing in the game by such a long distance. Probably the most peculiar results toward the top are the relative mediocrity of Federer and Djokovic's clay results. Both of them had disappointing seasons compared to their formerly superlative standards. Nadal not outsie the top 3 on any surface, just shows how versatile he has become, the ultimate competitor.

Also, agree with the above poster that the grass rankings just represent how short that season is. Wimbledon accounts for the vast majority of points at the very top level (top 16). This is a disappointing state of affairs imo.

DrJules
12-30-2010, 11:43 AM
Concur with most and you have used a reasonable basis.

Nadal as expected is number 1 on grass and clay.

Federer as expected is number 1 on hard court and indoors.

Sonja1989
12-30-2010, 12:37 PM
Thanks. :)

Federerhingis
12-30-2010, 07:14 PM
Federer 5th on grass. I never believed that can happen anything like it. ;)

Sampras fell to the same fate in 1996 and who would have thought that, nonetheless that year he lost to a monster server and fellow grass court connoisseur. Just goes to show invincibility in sports is
temporary if not another of the many human social constructs.

luie
12-30-2010, 09:40 PM
Seems like the top -ten can't play on clay nowadays.Sad state of affairs imo.
This validates my claim of lack of elite competition on clay.
Murray 24,roddick out of the top 50,fed 8,Novak 9 just wow.

oranges
12-30-2010, 09:50 PM
Seems like the top -ten can't play on clay nowadays.Sad state of affairs imo.
This validates my claim of lack of elite competition on clay.
Murray 24,roddick out of the top 50,fed 8,Novak 9 just wow.

It's less surprising for grass as it's basically Wimbledon points, so if you lose early there, that's it, but on clay there's far more opportunity to rack up points in masters. Muzza and duck were not really expected to do much better, but Fed and Djoko really had a poor clay season.

luie
12-30-2010, 10:06 PM
It's less surprising for grass as it's basically Wimbledon points, so if you lose early there, that's it, but on clay there's far more opportunity to rack up points in masters. Muzza and duck were not really expected to do much better, but Fed and Djoko really had a poor clay season.
I'am really disappointed in Novak, fed is old... Novak is in his prime should do better on clay imo.
As you say duck n' Murray are never going to be threats.
Whatever happen to Novak on clay is beyond me.

n8
12-31-2010, 12:11 AM
Very nice stats, do you have these for previous years as well? I would be interested to see.

I don't have last year's but I might do it sometime in the future.

The top 3 and 5 of the top 6 on clay were Spaniards!

paseo
12-31-2010, 12:16 AM
Quality thread.

Sapeod
12-31-2010, 12:40 AM
Murray no.3/4 on everything except clay and indoors (though he only played one indoor tournament - Paris). Pretty good.

Montanes no.18 in slams and no.14 on clay :worship:

v-money
12-31-2010, 12:45 AM
Murray no.3/4 on everything except clay and indoors (though he only played one indoor tournament - Paris). Pretty good.

Montanes no.18 in slams and no.14 on clay :worship:

Not exactly, he got most of those indoor points for winning Shanghai and getting to the semis if the WTF. Also played Valencia.

Ibracadabra
12-31-2010, 01:50 AM
Murray with a mugtastic indoor and clay record.

fast_clay
12-31-2010, 01:53 AM
well presented stats man :yeah:

n8
12-31-2010, 03:57 AM
Not exactly, he got most of those indoor points for winning Shanghai and getting to the semis if the WTF. Also played Valencia.

Shanghai is classified as an outdoor event (otherwise Murray would come in at number 3 indoors). Murray got 625 points indoors this year; 45 in Valencia, 180 in Paris and 400 in the WTF. Federer ended with 2610 indoor points, Soderling was next with 2015 points, Nadal was a distant third with 1090 indoor points.

tribalfusion
12-31-2010, 08:02 AM
Murray no.3/4 on everything except clay and indoors

You mean on half of the surfaces? There are only 4 surfaces :haha:

iriraz
12-31-2010, 08:28 AM
The claycourt standings doesn`t necessary reflect who has played better but who has played more tourneys.Guys like Ferrer or Ferrero didn`t play that great in big clay court tourneys but they played alot during the South American stretch and that`s how they are up there.
Federer for example skipped Monte Carlo and lost early in Rome so that`s obvious he is so low.Murray also had a poor clay court season while Djokovic had a poor loss to Melzer in the French as his ranking reflects it.
Soderling is 4th in clay but only because of French and Barcelona.In the masters events he was poor.

n8
12-31-2010, 08:56 AM
^Very true. Thanks for reading the article :). Federer and Djokovic only played four clay events each and Murray only played three. However, even if you only count the four biggest clay events (Monte Carlo, Rome, Madrid, Roland Garros), the rankings are pretty similar:

Rank Player Points
1 Nadal 5000
2 Ferrer 1410
3 Soderling 1300
4 Verdasco 1230
5 Federer 970
6 Melzer 910
7 Djokovic 900
8 Berdych 855
9 Almagro 810
---
? Ferrero 280

The top 4 are close to the same, Federer moves up 3 spots, Djokovic and Berdych move up 2. Almagro drops 3 and Ferrero free falls.

tribalfusion
12-31-2010, 12:02 PM
The claycourt standings doesn`t necessary reflect who has played better but who has played more tourneys.Guys like Ferrer or Ferrero didn`t play that great in big clay court tourneys

I don't know what you watched but Ferrer did play well in the clay tournaments I watched...

TennisOnWood
12-31-2010, 12:13 PM
The claycourt standings doesn`t necessary reflect who has played better but who has played more tourneys.Guys like Ferrer or Ferrero didn`t play that great in big clay court tourneys but they played alot during the South American stretch and that`s how they are up there.
Federer for example skipped Monte Carlo and lost early in Rome so that`s obvious he is so low.Murray also had a poor clay court season while Djokovic had a poor loss to Melzer in the French as his ranking reflects it.
Soderling is 4th in clay but only because of French and Barcelona.In the masters events he was poor.

Not sure what you was watching but David had great clay court year!!

Blackbriar
12-31-2010, 01:00 PM
it would have been interesting if it had descended the ranking until top 30. Ferrero is not even included though he was one of the best of clay season.

Kiedis
12-31-2010, 01:08 PM
Finally some beef in this forum. Keep it up, man!

n8
01-01-2011, 11:45 AM
it would have been interesting if it had descended the ranking until top 30. Ferrero is not even included though he was one of the best of clay season.

Here they are:


Rank Player Clay Grass Hard Indoor Slam
26 Monaco 17 >50 30 44 >50
27 Nalbandian 47 >50 22 40 >50
28 Troicki 43 45 21 14 45
29 Ferrero 5 >50 >50 >50 39
30 Gasquet 17 >50 25 31 39


Troicki scrapes into the top 50 in every category, the lowest ranked player to do so (next lowest is world number 18 Querrey). Only 245 of Ferrero's 1800 total points came outside clay so it's no surprise he's outside the top 50 on all other surfaces. Monaco had his best year on hard with a 14-11 record compared to his career mark of 48-61. Gasquet missed Wimbledon this year but his results show he's one for all surfaces.

born_on_clay
01-01-2011, 02:00 PM
Rafa :hatoff: