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Poll: Is Murray better on plexicushion (med speed hc) than deco turf (ultra fast hc)

2003
12-28-2010, 09:58 PM
He has made a final on each surface, 08 USO and 10 AO, and lost early a couple of times at each tournament when he was a favourite to at least make the later stages if not win the tourneys.

However, he was blown off the court much worse at the US Open. At least he was beaten in close matches by players who went very deep and were unlucky not to win the thing (Tsonga/Verdasco at AO) vs beaten quite badly by players that didnt really make much impact later on (Cilitch and Wawrinkled)..just makes me think the matches he lost at AO were much closer and he played quite well, but the matches he lost early in the USO were pretty poor displays of being blasted off the court.

Maybe it's apples and oranges, but what do you think? Is Murray not so good on ultra fast surfaces?

Shade
12-28-2010, 10:00 PM
Murray's better on mid-pace courts. Plexicushion and the new grass.

philosophicalarf
12-28-2010, 10:08 PM
There are different types of Decoturf - the us open one is just about the fastest (Tokyo is quicker but with slower balls), but others can be medium or even fairly slow (eg Beijing). Murray himself has said he likes a midspeed court with a decent high bounce, he volunteered Shanghai as an example of his ideal (Decoturf). Canada has the same surface with faster balls, a fairly high bounce also, and he's won that twice in a row. Having said that, he's also won Cincinatti (very similar to US Open) and Miami (ultra slow surface with a lowish bounce), so it's not that restricted a range.


Obviously any defence is easier to penetrate on a faster surface or balls, but that assumes Murray plays the same way. Look at Canada, where he was pretty aggressive, when he has that game working his flat strokes and serve prefer a faster court. The problem for him comes when he's not at near best form, he doesn't have the belief to play that way or even mix up styles - then he's definitely vulnerable on faster courts to bigger hitters.

Sonja1989
12-28-2010, 10:59 PM
I think in plexicushion better.

Sapeod
12-29-2010, 12:11 AM
He's great on both.

Topspindoctor
12-29-2010, 05:19 AM
He pushes better on plexicushion. He usually gets blown away on decoturf as proven in the last two years' USO.

Zagor
12-29-2010, 02:18 PM
The highest level of tennis in slam I've seen him playing so far was at AO last year so I'll say plexicushion.Although I don't consider USO ultra fast HC by any means,there are no truly fast surfaces on tour since 2003.IMO USO is about medium speed HC while AO is a slow HC.

nadal_slam_king
12-29-2010, 04:06 PM
Definitely the AO is his best form ever, no doubt whatsoever.

philosophicalarf
12-29-2010, 04:43 PM
I thought his Canada form was better than Aus.. Peaked too early at the Aus, was a little fortunate to get away with a slack match vs Cilic in the semis.

Sapeod
12-29-2010, 04:51 PM
He pushes better on plexicushion. He usually gets blown away on decoturf as proven in the last two years' USO.
It's funny how a Nadull fan is calling other players pushers.
Your boy only hits moonballs until his opponent makes a mistake :wavey:

That said, Murray isn't a pusher and he's equally good on these surfaces.

Topspindoctor
12-29-2010, 04:56 PM
It's funny how a Nadull fan is calling other players pushers.
Your boy only hits moonballs until his opponent makes a mistake :wavey:

That said, Murray isn't a pusher and he's equally good on these surfaces.

Nadal hits more winners in almost all of the matches he wins these days :bigwave:

If you ever took the time to look at the match stats, you'd soon realize it. At RG, he hit more FH winners than Soderling. At USO he had 49 winners to Djokovic's 45. Hardly a "moonballer" :wavey:

Mugray on the other hand pushes like crazy because his forehand is a disgrace and he has a defensive, cowardly mentality. No wonder he got humiliated in back to back years at his favorite slam even before reaching QF :awww:

theKSHE
12-29-2010, 05:03 PM
It's funny how a Nadull fan is calling other players pushers.
Your boy only hits moonballs until his opponent makes a mistake :wavey:

That said, Murray isn't a pusher and he's equally good on these surfaces.

Are you serious? I might agree with you when you said that Nadal hits moonballs but it is part of his gameplay and if opponents can't return it it's their own problems not Nadal's. Saying that Murray hits more winners than Nadal is kinda funny.