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Poll: Do you think Roddick will be more remembered than Murray?

2003
12-28-2010, 08:48 AM
I see them having similar academic careers..maybe a slam or two each, a few slam final losses to Federer each..

I just think Roddicks personality and media friendliness, and almost certainty to enter tennis commentary and the like after his competitive career will mean Roddick will be much more fresh in our minds in 20 years than Murray.

What do you guys think?

Which Andy will you remember more?

RoddickFan.
12-28-2010, 08:51 AM
Of course its Roddick. 1(and still counting)>0. He will also be remembered for his good looks, charisma, and his big serve.

Blackbriar
12-28-2010, 08:53 AM
I will go with Murray because Roddick will suffer from the comparison with his compatriot Agassi and Sampras.

Topspindoctor
12-28-2010, 08:54 AM
Roddick, because he will end his career with at least 1 slam :yeah:

TennisOnWood
12-28-2010, 08:55 AM
In terms of results,Murray will be remembered more. He is all ready better in Masters 1000 events,he will win that Slam one day for sure and will pass +30 ATP titles mark

With a very weak field of players today,Highlander will stay in Top 10 as long as Roddick was

Pirata.
12-28-2010, 09:07 AM
Roddick will be remembered for that 2009 Wimbledon final, and also because he has a slam.

2003
12-28-2010, 09:29 AM
I will go with Murray because Roddick will suffer from the comparison with his compatriot Agassi and Sampras.

But if hes being constantly compared, doesnt that mean he will be discussed, and therefore remembered?

2003
12-28-2010, 09:35 AM
I will go with Murray because Roddick will suffer from the comparison with his compatriot Agassi and Sampras.

But if hes being constantly compared, doesnt that mean he will be discussed, and therefore remembered?

ApproachShot
12-28-2010, 09:36 AM
I'm sure the British media will never allow tennis fans to forget Andy Murray.

decrepitude
12-28-2010, 09:49 AM
The question is pointless until they have both ended their careers and can be sensibly compared.

Monteque
12-28-2010, 09:54 AM
this is very easy to answer. and the poll pointless. we have to wait till murray career ends. for now roddick 1>0 to murray. he got one USO in his pocket

oranges
12-28-2010, 10:59 AM
Some 5-10 years too early this thread

Sonja1989
12-28-2010, 11:17 AM
Roddick will be remembered for that 2009 Wimbledon final, and also because he has a slam.

Yes, this.

But Murray is young, he has chance GS win.

RedHotRafa
12-28-2010, 05:45 PM
Roddick.

GlennMirnyi
12-28-2010, 05:50 PM
No, because you just can't forget how much of a whiner Murray is. He'll be forever imprinted in our minds. His gargantuan chokes we'll be remembered eternally as well.

Roger the Dodger
12-28-2010, 05:53 PM
Expect young Andy to have at least 15 masters titles. Expect old Andy to have 1 slam. Weigh the scales.

centralviva
12-28-2010, 07:29 PM
Roddick because he is a slam winner and has been number 1

r2473
12-28-2010, 07:33 PM
Do you think Roddick will be more remembered than Muray?

Whose Muray?

syc23
12-28-2010, 07:43 PM
Roddick is in the twilight years of his career whereas Murray is not even 24 and people are already discussing that he will for sure retire with zero slam. The Scot could come into his own once Federer retires/ or slows down in the next 2-3 years so slams will be there for the taking for Nadal/Novak/Murray/Delpo.

freeandlonely
12-29-2010, 01:44 PM
In USA : Roddick
In World : Roddick still

Only if Murray winning multiple Slams in style

MariaV
12-29-2010, 01:52 PM
Another excellent thread from 2003! :worship: :bowdown:
Not a day without a thread from 2003! :worship: :bowdown:

loopback
12-29-2010, 02:15 PM
Steve Stifler

Sapeod
12-29-2010, 03:31 PM
Roddick is one of the most pathetic crybabies the sport has ever seen, therefore he'll be remembered. Whether he'll be more remembered than Murray, is unknown.

networthy
12-29-2010, 08:08 PM
Definitely, if only for the fact that Roddick is a sexy beast whereas Murray is not.

vn01
12-29-2010, 08:15 PM
Too early to say. I prefer Murray to be remembered more. He is more talented than Roddick and deserve many successes. So, I vote for Murray

Allez
12-29-2010, 08:53 PM
It is a near certainty that Murray will win a grandslam (will definitely win Wimbledon) and that is so huge for british tennis it will eclipse anything Roddick has ever achieved. The US has Sampras and Agassi. Murray will become the new Fred Perry. No contest. Love both Andies but the Dunblane one is on his way to becoming a ldegend. It begins in 2011.

Sham Kay
12-29-2010, 09:57 PM
Geez 2003. You make more threads in a day than I do posts.

If they both retired right this second: Roddick definately.

Realistically after they both retire I'd go with Murray, just about. Roddick will be more remembered for his arguments with umpires and great conversations with the media than his GS win. Oh and his GOAT serve.

Ibracadabra
12-29-2010, 10:03 PM
I don't believe murray will even be more remembered in the british isles. Roddick is probably even more famous than nadull when it comes to wimbledon. His serve will also have people mentioning his name in longer than 30 years. Murray has no trademark stroke and will never win the amount of slams to become immortal in tennis.

samjones
12-30-2010, 12:58 AM
Alot of people "won 1 slam". Andy Roddick will be remembered for 3 things.

1. Being world #1
2. Winning the Cincy/Canada/US Open hard court trifecta.
3. 155 mph, baby! Nobody will forget that until somebody lobs one over at 156.

Andy Murray may do many great things before he's all done but so far even a single memorable accomplishment has eluded him.

fast_clay
12-30-2010, 01:04 AM
andy roddick will be more remembered even if murray wins 7 slams cos roddick hung out with hef at playboy mansion

Forehander
12-30-2010, 01:06 AM
Roddick is in the Guiness Book of Records afterall.

General Suburbia
12-30-2010, 04:00 AM
Roddick is one of the most pathetic crybabies the sport has ever seen, therefore he'll be remembered. Whether he'll be more remembered than Murray, is unknown.
I think you whine more than any player I've seen.

If Murray wins at least one slam, he'd be remembered just as well if not more than Roddick, especially if that one slam is Wimbledon.

Start da Game
12-30-2010, 05:20 AM
king david will be remembered more than both.......

Topspindoctor
12-30-2010, 05:32 AM
Roddick is one of the most pathetic crybabies the sport has ever seen, therefore he'll be remembered. Whether he'll be more remembered than Murray, is unknown.

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/feb2010/5/8/andy-murray-pic-getty-images-852821445.jpg

samjones
12-30-2010, 12:28 PM
I think you whine more than any player I've seen.

If Murray wins at least one slam, he'd be remembered just as well if not more than Roddick, especially if that one slam is Wimbledon.

If Andy Murray were to win Wimbledon '11 then Andy Roddick would still be remembered as the greater grass-court player.

Allez
12-30-2010, 12:32 PM
If Andy Murray were to win Wimbledon '11 then Andy Roddick would still be remembered as the greater grass-court player.
For how long do you reckon this impression would last ? 2 years ? 5 years ? 30 years ? In the long run it the title matters the most imho.

Roger the Dodger
12-30-2010, 07:11 PM
If Andy Murray were to win Wimbledon '11 then Andy Roddick would still be remembered as the greater grass-court player.

Quite the contrary.
If Murray were to win just one slam, he'd never be compared with his namesake again, because he excels him in every other department.

samjones
12-30-2010, 08:48 PM
Quite the contrary.
If Murray were to win just one slam, he'd never be compared with his namesake again, because he excels him in every other department.


Maybe. But this isn't a thread about who's better. THis is a thread about who's more memorable. THat's another thing that Andy Roddick will be remembered for - his super-long Wimbledon final in '09.

In the end we remember the personality and that's what differentiates one great player from another. That's why we remember Andre more than Pete and Mac more than Ivan and that's why we'll never forget Andy Roddick. Like him or hate him you never forget the matches he plays.

samjones
12-30-2010, 08:50 PM
For how long do you reckon this impression would last ? 2 years ? 5 years ? 30 years ? In the long run it the title matters the most imho.

We'll never forget the last great American men's tennis player. The last of a long line.

Bubble99
12-30-2010, 09:39 PM
Roddick will deffinently be remembered more than Murray, not only does he have a grand slam he is extremely likeable, both have been Federer's whipping boys in slams especially Roddick, but all of the finals between the two have been pretty tight e.g. 2004/2005 wimbledon, 2006 us open, wimbledon 2009. I disagree that the British media will make murray more remembered, British tennis fans love Roddick as much as Murray...Im English and I'm a die hard Roddick fan

Leo
12-30-2010, 09:45 PM
Very premature.

Close thread now.

Thanks.

BK 201
12-30-2010, 10:29 PM
Murray is one of the most pathetic crybabies the sport has ever seen, therefore he'll be remembered. Whether he'll be more remembered than roddick, is unknown.


fixed it for you.

luie
12-30-2010, 10:45 PM
Quite the contrary.
If Murray were to win just one slam, he'd never be compared with his namesake again, because he excels him in every other department.
To early to tell, Murray still has a couple prime years left,However it is worth nothing,Roddick excell Murray @ 23 years even if you take away his GS (meaning Roddick @ 23 years).
Game-- both are products of their respective eras in Roddicks developmental years on the faster surfaces you got more returns with a Powerfull serve/ flat forehand.
Murray has better movement/backhand/volley he is a product of this slow era, variety over power 10 feet behind the baseline type thing.
However it should be noted the Serve/forehand combo are the weapons of choice for multi-slam winners.

flypen2000
12-31-2010, 08:33 AM
It is far too early to start this thread, I think.
It all depends on whether AM wins a Slam in the future or not. I agree that if Murray wins Wimbledon, then he will be remembered more than AR, for sure.

samjones
12-31-2010, 11:02 AM
It is far too early to start this thread, I think.
It all depends on whether AM wins a Slam in the future or not. I agree that if Murray wins Wimbledon, then he will be remembered more than AR, for sure.

Richard Krajicek

nobama
12-31-2010, 11:42 AM
IF Murray wins a slam the British press will jerk off to it, but doesn't mean he's more memorable than Roddick. We won't know the answer to that until both their playing careers are over. And why the arbitrary comparison to Roddick? Why not Djokovic? Or Del Potro?

samjones
12-31-2010, 11:57 AM
IF Murray wins a slam the British press will jerk off to it, but doesn't mean he's more memorable than Roddick. We won't know the answer to that until both their playing careers are over. And why the arbitrary comparison to Roddick? Why not Djokovic? Or Del Potro?

I'm sure it's the name.

The better question would be: If Andy Murray were to retire today who would be more remembered - him or Tim Henman?

Or, who will be more remembered Andy Roddick or Lleyton Hewitt?

canbera
12-31-2010, 12:49 PM
Roddick is one of the most pathetic crybabies the sport has ever seen, therefore he'll be remembered. Whether he'll be more remembered than Murray, is unknown.

Not sure if you've seen that Wimbledon 2009 final, but if you can blame him for something, it is that backhand volley to give him a 2:0 lead against Federer, but not for being a crybaby. He took that loss pretty well, considering it was arguably his best ( and last ) shot to earn him his second Grand Slam title.

nobama
12-31-2010, 01:31 PM
I'm sure it's the name.

The better question would be: If Andy Murray were to retire today who would be more remembered - him or Tim Henman?

Or, who will be more remembered Andy Roddick or Lleyton Hewitt?Honestly I think Roddick will be more remembered than Hewitt just because he stayed inside the top 10 for so much longer. Between Henman and Murray? I think Murray wins. If for no other reason than he's made slam finals.

fast_clay
12-31-2010, 02:46 PM
two words people...

Pat Cash

Roger the Dodger
12-31-2010, 06:38 PM
Maybe. But this isn't a thread about who's better. THis is a thread about who's more memorable. THat's another thing that Andy Roddick will be remembered for - his super-long Wimbledon final in '09.

In the end we remember the personality and that's what differentiates one great player from another. That's why we remember Andre more than Pete and Mac more than Ivan and that's why we'll never forget Andy Roddick. Like him or hate him you never forget the matches he plays.

Maybe you're right. Roddick might be more memorable as the player who lost several slam chances to Federer, but Murray seems a greater competitor and will be remembered for taking it up to Federer. Besides, I don't think any player would like to play Roddick's ignominious part on tour.

And when they speak about wimbledon from this era in the future, its always going to be about 2003-2008. Roger's dominance over 5 years and the sudden change of the guard overshadows his last wimbledon victory.

SetSampras
12-31-2010, 06:46 PM
One thing Murray has on Roddick.. Hes beaten Fed more times in less chances then Roddick who only managed to squeeze two wins out in 20 some tries. Not sure why you want to be known as the guy who was Federer's Bitch but at the end of the day thats what Roddick is. Sadly

Roger the Dodger
12-31-2010, 06:49 PM
One thing Murray has on Roddick.. Hes better Fed more times in less chances then Roddick who only managed to squeeze two wins out in 20 some tries. Not sure why you want to be known as the guy who was Federer's Bitch but at the end of the day thats what Roddick is. Sadly

The Miami victory wasn't legit because Federer underperformed that year.

Snowwy
12-31-2010, 06:51 PM
The Miami victory wasn't legit because Federer underperformed that year.

What about the years when Andy Roddick underperformed?

Roger the Dodger
12-31-2010, 06:54 PM
What about the years when Andy underperformed?

Andy never underperformed. He's always given his best.

Snowwy
12-31-2010, 06:59 PM
Andy never underperformed. He's always given his best.

So you are saying Roger didn't give it his all? That is embarrassing to be a professional and not trying your best, just quitting. :sad:

Roger the Dodger
12-31-2010, 07:10 PM
So you are saying Roger didn't give it his all? That is embarrassing to be a professional and not trying your best, just quitting. :sad:

Wel, if you've seen Roger-Andy duels regularly, you'll know he never has to take to 5th gear to beat Andy. He can defeat him on his average day. Obviously Roger paid for it when he didn't give his average performance. Yes, he underperformed.

flypen2000
12-31-2010, 07:45 PM
Richard Krajicek

Why mention this guy?

Even if Murray only wins one slam in his career, if that one slam is Wimbledon, then he'll be remembered for a long time, since he'll be the only male British player to win it since Fred Perry some 70+ years ago.

SetSampras
12-31-2010, 07:52 PM
Krajciek was constantaly injured and its too bad since the guy had some serious talent when he was healthy at his peak. A much deadlier player then the pusher Murray. But u have to figure within 2-3 years Murray will probably begin his slam count and probably be the best British star of all time

samjones
12-31-2010, 08:18 PM
Murray seems a greater competitor and will be remembered for taking it up to Federer.

No. He didn't. He could and he might, but he didn't and hasn't and I'll bet he won't. Right now I would say that Andy Murray had better focus more on stabilizing his #4 ranking. Anything more seems beyond him. Make sure next year that the Swiss who knocks him out of the slam is Roger Federer - that would be a victory for him.

SetSampras
12-31-2010, 08:23 PM
Murray gave it to Fed much more then Roddick ever did gotta admit that

samjones
12-31-2010, 08:27 PM
Murray gave it to Fed much more then Roddick ever did gotta admit that

Have you ever seen the Wimbledon? I seem to recall a pretty good match between Fed and Roddick a couple years back.

I don't recall Andy Murray ever coming that close to beating Fed in a slam final.

Sapeod
12-31-2010, 08:28 PM
Have you ever seen the Wimbledon? I seem to recall a pretty good match between Fed and Roddick a couple years back.

I don't recall Andy Murray ever coming that close to beating Fed in a slam final.
I don't recall Roddick beating Federer 8 times.

luie
12-31-2010, 09:00 PM
Have you ever seen the Wimbledon? I seem to recall a pretty good match between Fed and Roddick a couple years back.

I don't recall Andy Murray ever coming that close to beating Fed in a slam final.
You make a valid point-- Roddick has been more competitive against fed the then #1 on grass,in 2004/2009.(contemporaries)
Than Murray against the incumbent #1 nadull in 2008/2010, where he failed to win a set in the most prestigous tourny, Wimby in the tennis calender.(contemporaries)

guga2120
12-31-2010, 09:04 PM
Have you ever seen the Wimbledon? I seem to recall a pretty good match between Fed and Roddick a couple years back.

I don't recall Andy Murray ever coming that close to beating Fed in a slam final.

After Andy Murray wins Wimbledon, it will be Murray.

samjones
12-31-2010, 09:24 PM
After Andy Murray wins Wimbledon, it will be Murray.

I would say right now Andy Murray should be focusing on making it past the day of rest.

Sapeod
12-31-2010, 09:26 PM
I would say right now Andy Murray should be focusing on making it past the day of rest.
He's reached the quarter finals three times in a row and the semi finals twice in a row, so I don't think he should worry about that.

Diprosalic
12-31-2010, 10:05 PM
at current state they probably will be remembered as a side note in federers career. roddick more so than murray because murray was no match at slam level for federer.

if murray manages to win a GS he will be remembered more. especially by the brits.

elena_k
01-01-2011, 01:00 AM
If Murray wins Wimbledon the fans in britain will go crazy and it would probably change tennis in that country forever, and he may even become Sir Andy Murray!!

Sofonda Cox
01-01-2011, 08:06 PM
Roddick will. Murray is a massive failure, not only to tennis but to human life.

Chartreuse
01-01-2011, 10:27 PM
Right now Roddick is more memorable but that might change.

samjones
01-01-2011, 10:36 PM
If Murray wins Wimbledon ... it would probably change tennis in that country forever

How so? Think they would make Wimbledon an indoor carpet tournament?

Sapeod
01-01-2011, 10:44 PM
How so? Think they would make Wimbledon an indoor carpet tournament?
If he wins Wimbledon first, then:

1. He'd be the first Brit to win a grand slam in over 70 years.
2. He'd win it at Wimbledon.

But, if he wins a slam before his Wimbledon title, he'll still be remembered as:

1. The first Brit to win there in over 70 years.
2. The first player except for Federer/Nadal to win it in 7/8/9 years (however long that goes on for).

HE WILL BE REMEMBERED IF HE WINS WIMBLEDON, EVEN MORE THAN RODDICK!

Chartreuse
01-01-2011, 10:55 PM
If Murray wins Wimbledon one day, he would become a legend.

syc23
01-01-2011, 11:05 PM
Murray has every chance to bag at least 1 slam in the next 5-7 years as no one expects Federer to play forever. Nadal/Del Potro excepted I don't see many challengers for slams in the coming years.

star
01-01-2011, 11:05 PM
IF Murray wins a slam the British press will jerk off to it, but doesn't mean he's more memorable than Roddick. We won't know the answer to that until both their playing careers are over. And why the arbitrary comparison to Roddick? Why not Djokovic? Or Del Potro?


Djoko and DelPo have won a slam each.

that could be the reason for excluding them.

Bubble99
01-01-2011, 11:09 PM
Djoko and DelPo have won a slam each.

that could be the reason for excluding them.

Well duhh Roddick has also won a slam