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l_mac
07-24-2011, 05:41 PM
I'll update entry list today, but can help for qualies, because I'm leaving on Friday 99% sure :confused:

I'm not leaving until tomorrow morning, so I can do the updates today, it's just the rest of the week.

-Evita-
07-24-2011, 08:01 PM
Disaster!

I won't have any net access until late Saturday night. I thought I'd be able to use my phone to update the Washington thread, but it had an accident last night and is totally ruined.

Is there anyone who can update the entry lists and do the Qualifying draws and Saturday qualies for me?

I'm really sorry about this, I thought the only day I would need help was Saturday qualies because I'm travelling back that day.

Maybe I'll PM Evita and see if she can do it.

Don't worry, I'll take care of it :yeah:

l_mac
07-24-2011, 08:14 PM
Thank you, Evita :yeah:

I'll PM you my entry list SS.

abollo
07-25-2011, 03:59 PM
In Tampere TT I made an early deadline today because I had a tennis match today and wouldnt be able to post diffs then. A player sent 26 minutes after the deadline which was 2hrs 34mins before actual play start.
This player's opponent's picks weren't revealed as she had BYE in doubles.
Should I accept these picks?
Please note that players had almost 16hrs to send picks

Taz Warrior
07-25-2011, 06:50 PM
In Tampere TT I made an early deadline today because I had a tennis match today and wouldnt be able to post diffs then. A player sent 26 minutes after the deadline which was 2hrs 34mins before actual play start.
This player's opponent's picks weren't revealed as she had BYE in doubles.
Should I accept these picks?
Please note that players had almost 16hrs to send picks

Unfortunately you can't accept according to the rules

kingroger
07-26-2011, 09:32 AM
If a player commits to one tournament (i.e. Segovia) and after the first deadline to another tournament the same week (i.e. Washington) and then recognizes he has already committed to the first one, is he allowed to be a Direct Entry in the first or a Late Entry? I'm sure he is still allowed to be a direct entry - I just want to double check....

dinkulpus
07-26-2011, 10:44 AM
If a player commits to one tournament (i.e. Segovia) and after the first deadline to another tournament the same week (i.e. Washington) and then recognizes he has already committed to the first one, is he allowed to be a Direct Entry in the first or a Late Entry? I'm sure he is still allowed to be a direct entry - I just want to double check....

If he wrote "out" in Segovia CH, he should be late entry,if not he should play where he first commit :wavey:

kingroger
07-26-2011, 04:03 PM
Then I was right! Thanks marto :)

StoGas
07-28-2011, 08:53 AM
I'll need an assistant for San Marino CH. I'm away from 1-6 August and probably without of internet. Somebody will have to make Qualies draw and post the OOP for Saturday. I think I'll be able to post the diffs.

Labamba
07-29-2011, 01:19 PM
this week :D


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

15/08/2011 Cincinnati H 64/32/32/16 ibreak4coffee
15/08/2011 Cordenons CH CL 32/16/16/8 Colt th magnific
15/08/2011 San Sebastian CH CL 32/16/16/8 Eddy DoubleD
15/08/2011 Karshi CH H 32/16/16/8 abollo

StoGas
07-30-2011, 09:46 AM
I'll need an assistant for San Marino CH. I'm away from 1-6 August and probably without of internet. Somebody will have to make Qualies draw and post the OOP for Saturday. I think I'll be able to post the diffs.

Still looking, leaving the day after tomorrow :rolleyes:

StoGas
07-31-2011, 02:06 PM
Since nobody wanted to assist me, I'll ask somebody to post the OOP for Saturday. I'll be back on Saturday and make the draws and then post the diffs.

Boarder35m
08-03-2011, 10:24 PM
I need an assistant manager for TT Montreal, maybe even for quallies :unsure:

Any volunteer? :wavey:

l_mac
08-03-2011, 10:40 PM
I need an assistant manager for TT Montreal, maybe even for quallies :unsure:

Any volunteer? :wavey:

I can do it, if you want :)

Boarder35m
08-04-2011, 02:23 AM
I can do it, if you want :)

Thak you :worship:

abollo
08-04-2011, 11:20 PM
I need help


In doubles confirm please

Should this be considered a commitment for singles?

l_mac
08-04-2011, 11:28 PM
Should this be considered a commitment for singles?

I would consider that a commitment.

In. Doubles? confirm please. It's just missing punctuation, imo.

ibreak4coffee
08-05-2011, 05:21 AM
I need help




Should this be considered a commitment for singles?

That's a definite commitment

Labamba
08-05-2011, 03:52 PM
this week :cool:


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

22/08/2011 Winston-Salem H 64/32/32/16 mmarto193
22/08/2011 Manerbio CH CL 32/32/16/16 Goldenoldie
22/08/2011 Astana 2 CH H 32/32/16/16 Eddy DoubleD

abollo
08-06-2011, 11:21 PM
Sorry for bothering you again :)
In Binghamton CH all matches scheduled for Saturday have been re-scheduled to Sunday. We only have one qualifying round being played on Sunday. Should the matches which were originally scheduled for Saturday be included?
Thanks

l_mac
08-06-2011, 11:35 PM
Sorry for bothering you again :)
In Binghamton CH all matches scheduled for Saturday have been re-scheduled to Sunday. We only have one qualifying round being played on Sunday. Should the matches which were originally scheduled for Saturday be included?
Thanks

If it were me in charge, I'd just use the first 8 matches on tomorrow's schedule ( the ones without the "x vs a or b")

Direnan
08-08-2011, 01:41 PM
I come here to apologize for the mistakes I made this 1st day management.

If someone feels hurt, I leave to your disposal.

However, I want continue to manage the tournament.

If anyone feels aggrieved, I can send my data to the management conference Tennis Tipping.

Hugs.

Labamba
08-10-2011, 10:32 PM
this week :D


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

29/08/2011 US Open S H 128/128 mmarto193
29/08/2011 US Open D H 64/64 Boarder35m
29/08/2011 Como CH CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie

Colt th magnific
08-12-2011, 06:54 AM
In doubs with chowdahead25

It's a single and double commitment or just double ???

Taz Warrior
08-12-2011, 07:57 AM
It's a single and double commitment or just double ???

I'd take that as a singles commitment as well, just missing a comma after "In"

Colt th magnific
08-12-2011, 11:22 AM
I'd take that as a singles commitment as well, just missing a comma after "In"

Ok, thanks Gavnich :wavey:

Belludal
08-12-2011, 08:47 PM
When the tournaments of September will be avaliable?

dinkulpus
08-12-2011, 08:54 PM
When the tournaments of September will be avaliable?

I think next week :p

ibreak4coffee
08-13-2011, 02:26 AM
Question about alternates - how do you handle a doubles team that commits after the final deadline versus teams that are already on an ALT list from before the final deadline? Do they go to the end of the list or are all ALT's ranked by ranking regardless of deadline?

Thanks

orangehat
08-13-2011, 03:16 AM
behind the ALTs on the list that committed before deadline.

Labamba
08-13-2011, 01:01 PM
I think next week :p

yep :)

Labamba
08-16-2011, 12:40 PM
The usual things:

- max 3 tourneys per manager
- 3 days to apply
- give atleast one back-up choice
- new managers should start with challengers

Take your pick! :cool:

September


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

05/09/2011 Genova CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?
05/09/2011 Seville CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?
05/09/2011 Alphen CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?
05/09/2011 St. Remy CH H 32/16/16/8 ?

12/09/2011 Davis Cup III - 20 teams ?
12/09/2011 Szczecin CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?
12/09/2011 Banja Luka CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?
12/09/2011 Istanbul CH H 32/16/16/8 ?
12/09/2011 Tulsa CH H 32/16/16/8 ?

19/09/2011 Metz IH 32/16/16/8 ?
19/09/2011 Bucharest CL 32/16/16/8 ?
19/09/2011 Cali CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?
19/09/2011 Tashkent CH H 32/16/16/8 ?
19/09/2011 Izmir CH H 32/16/16/8 ?

26/09/2011 Bangkok IH 32/16/16/8 ?
26/09/2011 Kuala Lumpur IH 32/16/16/8 ?
26/09/2011 Aguascalientes CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?
26/09/2011 Madrid CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?
26/09/2011 Napoli CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?

dinkulpus
08-16-2011, 12:51 PM
Seville and Agualiscentes (the CH in last week, I can't remember the name. :)
Bu : Something in first week and Kuala Lumpur

SVK
08-16-2011, 12:52 PM
I would like to start with Tashkent if I can:D
An assistant manager would be needed probably as you have a bit different rules as TF and I sometimes can make an absolute mess:p
BU: Another challenger, no matter which one;)

kingroger
08-16-2011, 07:19 PM
Can't manage this month cuase I'll be busy all the time... Will do another one in October (probably first 2 weeks then)

keqtqiadv
08-16-2011, 08:16 PM
Davis Cup & Kuala Lumpur

Direnan
08-16-2011, 08:38 PM
I can Cali, is in my time zone. =)

Goldenoldie
08-16-2011, 09:17 PM
Banja Luka CH
Bucharest
Napoli CH

B/U Szczecin CH

bandtree
08-17-2011, 12:03 AM
Genova please!!

Boarder35m
08-18-2011, 07:31 PM
Szczecin CH and Metz
BU: St. Remy Ch, Alphen CH

Labamba
08-19-2011, 08:35 AM
More people needed! :awww: :wavey:


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

05/09/2011 Genova CH CL 32/16/16/8 bandtree
05/09/2011 Seville CH CL 32/16/16/8 mmarto193
05/09/2011 Alphen CH CL 32/16/16/8 mmarto193
05/09/2011 St. Remy CH H 32/16/16/8 scoobs

12/09/2011 Davis Cup III - 20 teams keqtqiadv
12/09/2011 Szczecin CH CL 32/16/16/8 Boarder35m
12/09/2011 Banja Luka CH CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie
12/09/2011 Istanbul CH H 32/16/16/8 Luinir
12/09/2011 Tulsa CH H 32/16/16/8 CoolyBri

19/09/2011 Metz IH 32/16/16/8 Boarder35m
19/09/2011 Bucharest CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie
19/09/2011 Cali CH CL 32/16/16/8 Direnan
19/09/2011 Tashkent CH H 32/16/16/8 SVK
19/09/2011 Izmir CH H 32/16/16/8 Luinir

26/09/2011 Bangkok IH 32/16/16/8 mmarto193
26/09/2011 Kuala Lumpur IH 32/16/16/8 keqtqiadv
26/09/2011 Aguascalientes CH CL 32/16/16/8 Boarder35m
26/09/2011 Madrid CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?
26/09/2011 Napoli CH CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie

dinkulpus
08-19-2011, 09:56 AM
I will take Alphen also :wavey:
Will open now the threads :)

Boarder35m
08-19-2011, 03:05 PM
I can also take Bangkok :p

CoolyBri
08-19-2011, 03:51 PM
I can take Tulsa.

Boarder35m
08-20-2011, 02:16 AM
I can also take Bangkok :p

Mmarto193 prefers to take Bangkok and I take Aguascalientes from him. :)

dinkulpus
08-20-2011, 02:19 AM
Mmarto193 prefers to take Bangkok and I take Aguascalientes from him. :)

Confirm this and thanks to Boarder :worship:

dinkulpus
08-21-2011, 05:00 PM
Please, I need a help, I have 10 teams missing picks and 6 lucky losers, I'm in total mess, so please someone to tell where to place lucky losers, because I'm not 100% sure.

Here is the draw :

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=11289340&postcount=175

PP : Alex helped me :)

abollo
08-21-2011, 05:41 PM
Shouldn't dannyrafter/RicardoSoler replace petesampras_1/Nev ?

The rule says

How to place Alternates and Lucky Losers in case players forget to send picks in?

They should be placed randomly.
If there are more spots than alternates/Lucky Losers:
- Check if there are matches where both players didn't send picks. If so, the manager should place a LL there, so there is no win by Ranking.
- After that, place all Lucky Losers in a way that the best ranked players (entry list rankings) go through to the next round, getting a W/O.

So as far as I understand and did before in tournaments I managed I think guille&tati4life/quiron should play the team that didn't send rather then ramos/CesarLuiz because they're better ranked.
I know this doesn't matter to me at all, but it's always nice to know more about the rule :)

keqtqiadv
08-21-2011, 06:25 PM
Shouldn't dannyrafter/RicardoSoler replace petesampras_1/Nev ?

The rule says

How to place Alternates and Lucky Losers in case players forget to send picks in?

They should be placed randomly.
If there are more spots than alternates/Lucky Losers:
- Check if there are matches where both players didn't send picks. If so, the manager should place a LL there, so there is no win by Ranking.
- After that, place all Lucky Losers in a way that the best ranked players (entry list rankings) go through to the next round, getting a W/O.

So as far as I understand and did before in tournaments I managed I think guille&tati4life/quiron should play the team that didn't send rather then ramos/CesarLuiz because they're better ranked.
I know this doesn't matter to me at all, but it's always nice to know more about the rule :)
If I understood the replacements correctly, no :p guille&tati4life/quiron lost in QR1, so they were one of the last teams to be added to the draw.

Allez-Alejo
08-22-2011, 02:05 AM
Starting the main draw of W-S on Sunday was a poor idea, as seen by how many people did not send. It should have been a Monday start and have a normal 32 draw as this is only a 250 event. Also, it was not well advertised for such an unusual change. Absolutely no reason for this event to be a 64 draw. A real shame.

FiBeR
08-22-2011, 03:18 AM
i fully back up Tim.

Early starts, if allowed (which i think shouldnt) should be properly announced.. to have this kind of starts when there is no need to is a good idea but bad implemented.

if you sign up to a tournament under the standart requirements, you cant just change that halfway through the tournament inscription period or draw making.
if you sign up to a tournament, the tournament must keep the specifications it had when you sign up and not be changed

and if a change is to be made exceptionally, make sure the whole field is aware of it.

this needs to be a rule for the offseason

Capriati Rules
08-22-2011, 03:37 AM
I have to agree with the posters above one of the things that makes ATP TT>>>WTA TT is that you have standard commitment times and Tournament start times. The number of players missing today's deadline speaks to this not being conveyed very well. I'd also recommend managers putting local time and CET time for the tournament if they put them in thread titles.

rvugt
08-22-2011, 08:21 AM
Early starts, if allowed (which i think shouldnt) should be properly announced.. to have this kind of starts when there is no need to is a good idea but bad implemented.



Okay, so everybody wants a PM about this kind of things in their mailbox? Or what?
Since Friday the title of the thread was "Watch out, this tournament has an early start on Sunday". What can be more proper announcement! But well, I do understand it should have been said earlier in the thread, but nobody probably thought it would be like this. But I think early starts should be allowed.

jmjhb
08-22-2011, 08:38 AM
People should read the tournament schedule more carefully. That's what it's there for. :shrug:

People blaming the managers for their own oversight yet again.

Labamba
08-22-2011, 10:14 AM
I will take Alphen also :wavey:
Will open now the threads :)

I can also take Bangkok :p

I can take Tulsa.

Mmarto193 prefers to take Bangkok and I take Aguascalientes from him. :)

thanks guys :yeah:

Labamba
08-22-2011, 10:19 AM
last week :awww:


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

05/09/2011 Genova CH CL 32/16/16/8 bandtree
05/09/2011 Seville CH CL 32/16/16/8 mmarto193
05/09/2011 Alphen CH CL 32/16/16/8 mmarto193
05/09/2011 St. Remy CH H 32/16/16/8 scoobs

dinkulpus
08-22-2011, 10:35 AM
Okay, so everybody wants a PM about this kind of things in their mailbox? Or what?
Since Friday the title of the thread was "Watch out, this tournament has an early start on Sunday". What can be more proper announcement! But well, I do understand it should have been said earlier in the thread, but nobody probably thought it would be like this. But I think early starts should be allowed.

I updated the topic on 11th August and the schedule was on page 1 :wavey:

scoobs
08-22-2011, 10:35 AM
I can take St Remy.

Allez-Alejo
08-22-2011, 12:39 PM
I was away all weekend and did not check the site on my phone. Anyway, the real issue is that a 250 tournament should only be a 32 draw, even if it is the only ATP tournament of that week. I dont care that much that I forgot to send, its one week, but what I'm trying to bring up is a larger issue. I would really like it if some people stopped immediately calling us fools when we brig up a topic for discussion.

Tzar
08-22-2011, 03:31 PM
I was away all weekend and did not check the site on my phone. Anyway, the real issue is that a 250 tournament should only be a 32 draw, even if it is the only ATP tournament of that week. I dont care that much that I forgot to send, its one week, but what I'm trying to bring up is a larger issue. I would really like it if some people stopped immediately calling us fools when we brig up a topic for discussion.

This. People is over sensitive and believe the way they do things is flawless, when in reality there is room for MAJOR improvements.

Goldenoldie
08-22-2011, 04:26 PM
I was away all weekend and did not check the site on my phone. Anyway, the real issue is that a 250 tournament should only be a 32 draw, even if it is the only ATP tournament of that week. I dont care that much that I forgot to send, its one week, but what I'm trying to bring up is a larger issue. I would really like it if some people stopped immediately calling us fools when we brig up a topic for discussion.

I was one of the players who didn't send picks on time, but I blame myself for not reading the thread.

I agree that in a normal week a 250 should be a 32 draw, but Queen's was a 64, and I don't think anyone complained.

This is not a normal week - apart from the single ATP tournament there were only 2 challengers, and both were expanded to 32 player qualifying rounds. Manerbio was full, and Astana 2 had only 7 vacancies. This means that if Winston-Salem had only had a 32 draw there would have been 25 lower ranked players unable to play anywhere! Numbers of regular players have increased this year, and I am sure we all want this to continue. Perhaps it is time for some Futures tournaments on the calendar.

The other issue is the Sunday start, and I have no quarrel with this for two reasons.Firstly there were actually 6 main draw matches played at the tournament on Sunday, and the objective of TT is to cover all MD matches. Second, it would have been very difficult (but not impossible) to start on Monday and finish on Saturday once the decision to have a 64 draw was made.

This is a subject worthy of discussion, but in my opinion the correct decisions were made.

Boarder35m
08-22-2011, 04:33 PM
It is not a decision made by the manager to have a sunday start.
The FAQ thead says that the tournament before the US Open should have a sunday start because it is a 48-player tournament (64 players in TT) with a saturday final.

Last year several players forgot about it and every year the French Open have the highest amount of lucky losers because players forget about the early start, too.

Every player who forgets about this only has him/herself to blame

Allez-Alejo
08-22-2011, 06:01 PM
status quo. :yeah:

AdeyC
08-22-2011, 08:22 PM
I don't see what the problem is - I tend to look at my regular websites two or three times a day so always notice if theres anything out of the usual.
I have only once ever not sent picks since I started playing the game - and that was only because I reached the semis of one event when I was new to the game and didnt realise that I could send for quallies for the next event on the same day.

bandtree
08-23-2011, 01:34 AM
Roland Garros aside, it is quite unusual to have an ATP TT tournament start on a Sunday. I agree that this should be 64 player draw since I believe the TT draws should match the actual tournament draws. Since this is a Saturday finish, Friday and Saturday must take up the TT Final. The only way around this problem that I can see is to have a 2 round day. Split the Monday matches into TT R64 & R32, which would put things back on schedule for the Saturday finish.

Thoughts??

Allez-Alejo
08-23-2011, 01:51 AM
Roland Garros aside, it is quite unusual to have an ATP TT tournament start on a Sunday. I agree that this should be 64 player draw since I believe the TT draws should match the actual tournament draws. Since this is a Saturday finish, Friday and Saturday must take up the TT Final. The only way around this problem that I can see is to have a 2 round day. Split the Monday matches into TT R64 & R32, which would put things back on schedule for the Saturday finish.

Thoughts??

That's better than starting the MD on Sunday. There will always be at least ten matches on Monday and there are plenty of smaller 28 or 32 draw tourneys that only play 4-6 matches on Monday.

Labamba
08-26-2011, 05:08 PM
I can take St Remy.

thanks :cool:

Luinir
08-27-2011, 11:47 PM
Istanbul and Izmir please. I'm back to business.

dinkulpus
08-28-2011, 09:46 AM
Istanbul and Izmir please. I'm back to business.

So you should open Istanbul topic :p

Labamba
08-28-2011, 10:34 AM
Istanbul and Izmir please. I'm back to business.

nice :yeah:

Labamba
08-28-2011, 10:35 AM
this week :D


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

12/09/2011 Davis Cup III - 20 teams keqtqiadv
12/09/2011 Szczecin CH CL 32/16/16/8 Boarder35m
12/09/2011 Banja Luka CH CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie
12/09/2011 Istanbul CH H 32/16/16/8 Luinir
12/09/2011 Tulsa CH H 32/16/16/8 CoolyBri

Luinir
08-28-2011, 08:54 PM
So you should open Istanbul topic :p

I just waited "confirm" from Labamba. I'm going to open the topic now. :cool:

dinkulpus
08-30-2011, 03:53 PM
I'm trying to find someone who to post OOP for Saturday for Alphen and Seville if we need to have two round of qualies :wavey:

dinkulpus
08-31-2011, 10:55 AM
I'm trying to find someone who to post OOP for Saturday for Alphen and Seville if we need to have two round of qualies :wavey:

Anyone to help :dog:

rvugt
08-31-2011, 11:16 AM
I can help out. No problem there.

dinkulpus
08-31-2011, 04:51 PM
Тhanks Ruben,it's not 100% sure that qualies will start on Saturday, usually second week CH start on Sunday :wavey:

Labamba
09-02-2011, 02:23 PM
this week :cool:


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

19/09/2011 Metz IH 32/16/16/8 Boarder35m
19/09/2011 Bucharest CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie
19/09/2011 Cali CH CL 32/16/16/8 Direnan
19/09/2011 Tashkent CH H 32/16/16/8 SVK
19/09/2011 Izmir CH H 32/16/16/8 Luinir

dinkulpus
09-03-2011, 04:23 AM
Anyone for managing qualies for Bangkok because I will be busy at that weekend

scoobs
09-03-2011, 07:00 PM
Can someone check my situation in St Remy CH and confirm it is correct.

I've ended up with 2 top 30 players playing each other in QR1. I want to make sure I've done this correctly.

bandtree
09-03-2011, 07:15 PM
Can someone check my situation in St Remy CH and confirm it is correct.

I've ended up with 2 top 30 players playing each other in QR1. I want to make sure I've done this correctly.

From the FAQ thread:

Challengers

Top 30 players in the singles entry rankings can't play them, except during the Davis Cup and Grand Slam
second weeks and when there are no ATP tournaments played. They are allowed to play challengers in these
weeks as late entries (LE), but they are not able to be seeded.

So according to the rules, this is right what you have done. Seems a little silly to me, though, so I think its something that should be looked at in the off-season

scoobs
09-03-2011, 07:36 PM
From the FAQ thread:

Challengers

Top 30 players in the singles entry rankings can't play them, except during the Davis Cup and Grand Slam
second weeks and when there are no ATP tournaments played. They are allowed to play challengers in these
weeks as late entries (LE), but they are not able to be seeded.

So according to the rules, this is right what you have done. Seems a little silly to me, though, so I think its something that should be looked at in the off-season
Yeah that's what I thought. Oh well.

dinkulpus
09-03-2011, 08:57 PM
Anyone for managing qualies for Bangkok because I will be busy at that weekend

Anyone :dog:

dinkulpus
09-04-2011, 06:58 PM
I need a fast answer.

I cancelled Sevile qualies because I have 32 players only :wavey:
Can player (who commit after deadline and before MD time) get in a main draw and replace another player who quali for QF in US Open?
I don't know that you undestand, so can FERNET play in main draw instead a player who advance in New York, or 1 seed will have bye and FERNET will be alt1?

Boarder35m
09-04-2011, 07:47 PM
I need a fast answer.

I cancelled Sevile qualies because I have 32 players only :wavey:
Can player (who commit after deadline and before MD time) get in a main draw and replace another player who quali for QF in US Open?
I don't know that you undestand, so can FERNET play in main draw instead a player who advance in New York, or 1 seed will have bye and FERNET will be alt1?

This is really complicated. :p
Originally there were 16 doubles entries and stbanchile and CoolyBri confirmed as ALT after the 2nd deadline.
Because 1 player is still active in RG one doubles team will be taken out of the competition.
Can the ALT team replace this team so that there are still 16 teams, or can the ALT team only enter MD doubles if 1 team doesnīt send?

:scratch:
I think they can as long as the draw hasn't been made but I'm really not sure - can anyone else confirm this? Murilo?

Yes, I don't think there's any problem in adding the alternates to the draw.

We had this case before this year :p

dinkulpus
09-04-2011, 08:02 PM
And something extra, because FERNET is number 3 in the world, can he be seed in main draw? :angel:

Boarder35m
09-04-2011, 08:16 PM
And something extra, because FERNET is number 3 in the world, can he be seed in main draw? :angel:

No he canīt. Top 30 players in singles canīt be seeded in challengers :)

dinkulpus
09-04-2011, 08:29 PM
No he canīt. Top 30 players in singles canīt be seeded in challengers :)

I thought that was only from qualies ;)
Thanks Alex :worship:

dinkulpus
09-07-2011, 12:04 AM
Which are members of the board now?

Taz Warrior
09-07-2011, 05:38 AM
Which are members of the board now?

Boarder35m, Goldenoldie, Keqtqiadv, Labamba & me :)

Labamba
09-08-2011, 08:42 AM
this week


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

26/09/2011 Bangkok IH 32/16/16/8 mmarto193
26/09/2011 Kuala Lumpur IH 32/16/16/8 keqtqiadv
26/09/2011 Aguascalientes CH CL 32/16/16/8 Boarder35m
26/09/2011 Madrid CH CL 32/16/16/8 scoobs
26/09/2011 Napoli CH CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie

Goldenoldie
09-08-2011, 09:17 AM
I can probably double up if necessary, but I'm sure someone else will volunteer

dinkulpus
09-08-2011, 10:33 AM
I also can double up, but will be not here for qualifications :o

One question for Alphen, today the deadline was 10:00 am for matches which were suspended from yesterday, deadline for today's matches was 11:30AM, but player sent with 40 minutes late, can I accept this picks, the game is delayed because of rain :scratch:

Boarder35m
09-11-2011, 11:49 AM
Doubles with GustavoM_Fan

Please sign him for singles too, he isn't here now.

Can I count this also as singles commitment for JMG? :scratch:

dinkulpus
09-11-2011, 01:39 PM
As you know I'm very bad with this PTS :o


02:02 | (4) AdderA216/Sheva (NED/NED) vs. Dupuis2006/CalgaryFlames (CAN/CAN) (SR 0:0) - SR Differences: None , PTS Diffs : 7-6 4-6 6-3 and 36 63 64 vs. 7-6, 2-6, 6-4 +2


Score 7:6 6:3, so Adder/Sheva won, right :wavey:

kingroger
09-11-2011, 03:36 PM
Am I allowed to play DC and a CH in the same week??
Need a quick answer... Thanks :)

l_mac
09-11-2011, 03:42 PM
As you know I'm very bad with this PTS :o


02:02 | (4) AdderA216/Sheva (NED/NED) vs. Dupuis2006/CalgaryFlames (CAN/CAN) (SR 0:0) - SR Differences: None , PTS Diffs : 7-6 4-6 6-3 and 36 63 64 vs. 7-6, 2-6, 6-4 +2


Score 7:6 6:3, so Adder/Sheva won, right :wavey:

Yeah, I think 11:8

l_mac
09-11-2011, 03:44 PM
Am I allowed to play DC and a CH in the same week??
Need a quick answer... Thanks :)

No.

scoobs
09-12-2011, 01:02 PM
I can take Madrid CH

Labamba
09-13-2011, 09:22 AM
I can take Madrid CH

thanks :cool:

dinkulpus
09-13-2011, 05:07 PM
Ville when you will add October tournaments? :p

Labamba
09-13-2011, 10:31 PM
saturday or sunday...

CoolyBri
09-16-2011, 12:44 PM
I just found out that I won't be able to post Saturday's diffs and the Sunday OOP for TT Tulsa.
Is anybody able to help me out there?
It's the final weekend, so there won't be much to do :)

Direnan
09-16-2011, 02:34 PM
One Question:

If Davis Cup not count points for ranking, why the player, can't play in other tournament in this week?

Direnan
09-16-2011, 05:59 PM
Chrissi and Freshi signin in 2 tournaments in week 38, what do I do?

dinkulpus
09-16-2011, 06:01 PM
Chrissi and Freshi signin in 2 tournaments in week 38, what do I do?

If they didn't withdrew from first tournament, they must play where they committed first :p

Direnan
09-16-2011, 06:04 PM
If they didn't withdrew from first tournament, they must play where they committed first :p
Very thank's ^^

Boarder35m
09-16-2011, 09:01 PM
There are only 3 matches scheduled for Metz on saturday :help:

I thought about changing the schedule and to add the matches from sunday to the 1st round of qualification and play final round of qualification on monday with matches from final round of qualification.
But last year there were only 3 main draw matches on monday, so I would have just the same problem. Going further Metz had the last 3 1st round matches on wednesday last year.

I kept the schedule as it was. :awww:

CoolyBri
09-17-2011, 07:00 AM
I just found out that I won't be able to post Saturday's diffs and the Sunday OOP for TT Tulsa.
Is anybody able to help me out there?
It's the final weekend, so there won't be much to do :)

Anyone? :shrug:

dinkulpus
09-17-2011, 09:03 AM
Anyone? :shrug:

If the deadline is around or before 5:30 pm CET I can help you :angel:

CoolyBri
09-17-2011, 09:51 AM
If the deadline is around or before 5:30 pm CET I can help you :angel:

Deadline is 6:00 PM CEST. Is that still possible for you?

dinkulpus
09-17-2011, 02:16 PM
Deadline is 6:00 PM CEST. Is that still possible for you?

Yes, I will help you :p

Labamba
09-18-2011, 02:41 PM
October... :wavey:

The usual things:

- max 3 tourneys per manager
- give atleast one back-up choice
- new managers should start with challengers

October


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

03/10/2011 Beijing H 32/16/16/8 ?
03/10/2011 Tokyo H 32/16/16/8 ?
03/10/2011 Sacramento CH H 32/16/16/8 ?
03/10/2011 Mons CH IH 32/16/16/8 ?
03/10/2011 Palermo CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?

10/10/2011 Shanghai H 64/32/32/16 ?
10/10/2011 Tiburon CH H 32/32/16/16 ?
10/10/2011 Rennes CH IH 32/32/16/16 ?

17/10/2011 Moscow IH 32/16/16/8 ?
17/10/2011 Stockholm IH 32/16/16/8 ?
17/10/2011 Orleans CH IH 32/16/16/8 ?
17/10/2011 Seoul CH H 32/16/16/8 ?
17/10/2011 Quito CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?

24/10/2011 Vienna IH 32/32/16/16 ?
24/10/2011 St. Petersburg IH 32/32/16/16 ?
24/10/2011 Sao Jose Do Rio Preto CL 32/32/16/16 ?

31/10/2011 Basel IH 32/16/16/8 ?
31/10/2011 Valencia IH 32/16/16/8 ?
31/10/2011 Charlottesville CH IH 32/16/16/8 ?
31/10/2011 Eckental CH IS 32/16/16/8 ?
31/10/2011 Medellin CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?

dinkulpus
09-18-2011, 02:43 PM
Tokyo, Sao Jose Do Rio Preto CH
BU : Seoul CH

keqtqiadv
09-18-2011, 02:52 PM
Seoul CH

dinkulpus
09-18-2011, 02:57 PM
Ville, when is the deadline for choosing tournamnts :p

kingroger
09-18-2011, 03:06 PM
Mons CH please
BTW: that is the only tournament I can take as this is the only week in October I'm not busy :)

SVK
09-18-2011, 04:08 PM
Palermo CH

BU: Any other challenger;)

Labamba
09-18-2011, 04:29 PM
Ville, when is the deadline for choosing tournamnts :p

tomorrow evening :)

kingroger
09-18-2011, 04:40 PM
Ville: is it okay that I manage Mons??

Allez-Alejo
09-18-2011, 04:51 PM
I can do one of the Asia tourneys if you have a shortage.

Goldenoldie
09-18-2011, 05:33 PM
Tokyo, Rennes CH, Basel

B/U Eckental CH

Boarder35m
09-18-2011, 05:39 PM
Stockholm, Valencia
BU: Orleans CH, St. Petersburg

dinkulpus
09-18-2011, 08:15 PM
Tokyo, Rennes CH, Basel

B/U Eckental CH

Jim, can you taka Beijing instead of Tokyo :wavey:

Labamba
09-18-2011, 08:54 PM
Ville: is it okay that I manage Mons??

yes :cool:

Goldenoldie
09-18-2011, 09:27 PM
Jim, can you taka Beijing instead of Tokyo :wavey:

Yes ok, I didn't notice that you'd already asked for Tokyo.

dinkulpus
09-18-2011, 09:30 PM
Yes ok, I didn't notice that you'd already asked for Tokyo.

Thanks :worship:

Direnan
09-18-2011, 11:49 PM
Quito Ch

orangehat
09-19-2011, 05:27 PM
Sacramento CH, Charlottesville CH.

C-ville :hearts:

Direnan
09-19-2011, 07:07 PM
Hey man, I accidentally sent my Cali Monday picks to dudu. Can you still accept them? He can attest that I sent my picks last night, way before the deadline, and that I meant to send it to you. Please please please understand!

I can accept?

Dudu who posted OOP.

Direnan
09-19-2011, 08:10 PM
I can accept?

Dudu who posted OOP.
Is URGENT, guys.

Taz Warrior
09-19-2011, 09:02 PM
From the FAQ thread

What happens when a player sends picks to the wrong person?

Picks must be sent to the tournament manager. If the player sends picks to the wrong person, they won't be valid.

The rule is quite clear about this, I understand it's tough and an easy mistake to make, especially for a newcomer, but this was discussed at length last year and unfortunately we can't make any exceptions :hug:

Labamba
09-19-2011, 10:44 PM
October


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

03/10/2011 Beijing H 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie
03/10/2011 Tokyo H 32/16/16/8 Marto
03/10/2011 Sacramento CH H 32/16/16/8 orangehat
03/10/2011 Mons CH IH 32/16/16/8 kingroger
03/10/2011 Palermo CH CL 32/16/16/8 SVK

10/10/2011 Shanghai H 64/32/32/16 ?
10/10/2011 Tiburon CH H 32/32/16/16 justafanYYC
10/10/2011 Rennes CH IH 32/32/16/16 Goldenoldie

17/10/2011 Moscow IH 32/16/16/8 ?
17/10/2011 Stockholm IH 32/16/16/8 Boarder35m
17/10/2011 Orleans CH IH 32/16/16/8 ?
17/10/2011 Seoul CH H 32/16/16/8 keqtqiadv
17/10/2011 Quito CH CL 32/16/16/8 Direnan

24/10/2011 Vienna IH 32/32/16/16 Boarder35m
24/10/2011 St. Petersburg IH 32/32/16/16 ?
24/10/2011 Sao Jose Do Rio Preto CL 32/32/16/16 Marto

31/10/2011 Basel IH 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie
31/10/2011 Valencia IH 32/16/16/8 Boarder35m
31/10/2011 Charlottesville CH IH 32/16/16/8 orangehat
31/10/2011 Eckental CH IS 32/16/16/8 ?
31/10/2011 Medellin CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?

Labamba
09-19-2011, 10:46 PM
last week (to be opened as soon as possible)


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

03/10/2011 Beijing H 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie
03/10/2011 Tokyo H 32/16/16/8 Marto
03/10/2011 Sacramento CH H 32/16/16/8 orangehat
03/10/2011 Mons CH IH 32/16/16/8 kingroger
03/10/2011 Palermo CH CL 32/16/16/8 SVK

dinkulpus
09-19-2011, 11:08 PM
Tokyo is ready :p

justafanYYC
09-20-2011, 12:53 AM
If you need people, I'd be interested in trying a challenger.

Tiburon CH
BU: Medellin CH

They are both in my timezone.

Labamba
09-20-2011, 08:09 AM
If you need people, I'd be interested in trying a challenger.

Tiburon CH
BU: Medellin CH

They are both in my timezone.

welcome to the club :wavey:

Boarder35m
09-20-2011, 10:46 AM
I can also manage Vienna :)

justafanYYC
09-20-2011, 03:34 PM
welcome to the club :wavey:

Thanks!

That's all? I thought I needed to take an exam or something to qualify :D

kingroger
09-20-2011, 06:03 PM
Thanks!

That's all? I thought I needed to take an exam or something to qualify :D

haha :superlol:
Good luck in your first tournament!! It's actually fun :)

Goldenoldie
09-20-2011, 08:26 PM
Thanks!

That's all? I thought I needed to take an exam or something to qualify :D

No, you just need the intelligence of Einstein, the social skills of Mother Theresa, the thick skin of a rhinoceros and the ability to speak 27 languages.

It is also helpful if you have no social life and do not need to sleep more than one hour in 24.

Best of luck :wavey:

dinkulpus
09-21-2011, 06:18 AM
Tokyo, don't have SE, right :p

Labamba
09-21-2011, 09:13 AM
Tokyo, don't have SE, right :p

correct

Labamba
09-24-2011, 09:52 AM
this week


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

10/10/2011 Shanghai H 64/32/32/16 ?
10/10/2011 Tiburon CH H 32/32/16/16 justafanYYC
10/10/2011 Rennes CH IH 32/32/16/16 Goldenoldie


Anybody for Shanghai? Please :)

CoolyBri
09-24-2011, 08:09 PM
Anybody for Shanghai? Please :)

If there's no one else I could do that - but I would need to set an early deadline (12:30 PM local time) from Monday till Thursday.
I guess that could be a problem for some players, so I would prefer if someone else would volunteer :)

dinkulpus
09-24-2011, 08:59 PM
If there's no one else I could do that - but I would need to set an early deadline (12:30 PM local time) from Monday till Thursday.
I guess that could be a problem for some players, so I would prefer if someone else would volunteer :)

What is the deadline in CET?

keqtqiadv
09-24-2011, 11:19 PM
Nah, sorry :p Won't be able to do it :silly:

ibreak4coffee
09-25-2011, 02:18 AM
If you need people, I'd be interested in trying a challenger.

Tiburon CH
BU: Medellin CH

They are both in my timezone.

Go for it - you'll be fine :worship:

Direnan
09-25-2011, 02:20 AM
With prior notice, a player can send the double guesses? You can send different guesses? URGENT!

orangehat
09-25-2011, 02:39 AM
no picks must be same for singles and doubles.

Direnan
09-25-2011, 03:01 AM
no picks must be same for singles and doubles.
No. one player send pick for partner.

orangehat
09-25-2011, 03:56 AM
nope that's not allowed either,

Direnan
09-25-2011, 03:50 PM
nope that's not allowed either,
Thanks, guy.

justafanYYC
09-26-2011, 03:29 PM
So what happens if there's no manager for Shanghai?
Are Tiburon and Rennes going to be packed?

Top 30 get the week off?

scoobs
09-26-2011, 05:39 PM
I can help with Shanghai, sorting out the entry lists and running qualifying, but I can't run the actual tournament - the timezone is 7 hours ahead which means I'd have to be up at ridiculous o'clock in the morning to post diffs within a reasonable time, which I can't do.

dinkulpus
09-26-2011, 05:47 PM
I can help with Shanghai, sorting out the entry lists and running qualifying, but I can't run the actual tournament - the timezone is 7 hours ahead which means I'd have to be up at ridiculous o'clock in the morning to post diffs within a reasonable time, which I can't do.

I can help from Monday to Thursday and CoolyBri to finish it with 1/2 finals and final :p

abollo
09-26-2011, 05:48 PM
I could do Shanghai only if I set the deadline at 12:00 pm local time (6:00 am CET) every day

scoobs
09-26-2011, 05:50 PM
I could do Shanghai only if I set the deadline at 12:00 pm local time (6:00 am CET) every day
Play would have started by then. If play starts at 11am local time, as it usually does I think, then for me it's like 4am deadline, for people on European time it's 5am.

abollo
09-26-2011, 05:52 PM
Play would have started by then. If play starts at 11am local time, as it usually does I think, then for me it's like 4am deadline, for people on European time it's 5am.

People would wait an hour to get their diffs then

kingroger
09-26-2011, 05:53 PM
I think everybody should be happy that there is a manager - that's more important than late diffs :wavey:

scoobs
09-26-2011, 05:54 PM
Well I will kick the tournament off and if people are prepared to help with the main tournament and getting the diffs out at a reasonable time, that works for me :)

scoobs
09-26-2011, 05:55 PM
Thread is open :)

keqtqiadv
09-26-2011, 09:54 PM
Play would have started by then. If play starts at 11am local time, as it usually does I think, then for me it's like 4am deadline, for people on European time it's 5am.
Main draw play started at 1 PM local time or later in 2009 and 2010. If play started at 11 am, I'd have taken the tournament :p

kingroger
09-27-2011, 04:01 PM
If a player decided not to play doubles with somebody anymore (although he already posted this in the thread) and then picks another player to play with, is this team going to be listed as LE then??

And:
I assume I'm right but I just want to double check - Dexter committed in Sacramento and was already mentioned as the doubles partner of a player who entered in Mons.... I made Dexter aware of the fact that somebody proposed to play doubles with him.... So he committed to Mons. Now that pairing is a LE, right ??

Thanks :wavey:

dinkulpus
09-27-2011, 04:03 PM
There are no LE in doubles :scratch:

kingroger
09-27-2011, 04:28 PM
There are no LE in doubles :scratch:

okay thanks!!!!

Allez-Alejo
09-27-2011, 05:32 PM
I can help with Shanghai if needed. PM me if you need help.

sfar
10-01-2011, 01:54 PM
Hi,

I finally made the first version of the Entry Lists Maker. It's not 100% reliable, but some of you have asked me to publish it, so here it is:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=190820

Feel free to test it and tell me your thoughts on it.

abollo
10-01-2011, 02:01 PM
Thanks sfar. Great job .. I will try it later
Funny is that one week ago I started trying to think about such a thing :p

Boarder35m
10-01-2011, 04:29 PM
We need managers for Moscow and Orleans this week :help:

kingroger
10-02-2011, 11:48 AM
It would be nice if SVK won't manage a tournament again....
It's simply irresponsible not to bother making updates at all although being online!

dinkulpus
10-02-2011, 12:09 PM
It would be nice if SVK won't manage a tournament again....
It's simply irresponsible not to bother making updates at all although being online!

As I read in TF he has problem, but he can come here and share 1 minute to tell that can't manage, it will be better for everyone, not to hide ;)

kingroger
10-02-2011, 12:47 PM
He always has problems - he already excused his inconveniences in Tashkent with that....
I wrote a complaint to Labamba about this topic but he hasn't answered...

Also I don't want to criticize SVK too much because I respect his private life and studies!
It's just disappointing that he is online a lot but doesnt do anything then!

scoobs
10-02-2011, 05:20 PM
I will take Moscow, St Petersburg, and Ecktenal CH

We still need someone for Orleans CH and Medellin CH

dinkulpus
10-02-2011, 05:31 PM
Medelin CH for me :wavey:

Goldenoldie
10-02-2011, 06:16 PM
Ok, I'll take Orleans CH, but I might need help with the semi-finals and finals

dinkulpus
10-02-2011, 06:24 PM
I will help you Jim, I will manage Brazil qualification and that time :p

Labamba
10-02-2011, 11:39 PM
thanks guys :yeah:

Labamba
10-02-2011, 11:42 PM
last week


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

17/10/2011 Moscow IH 32/16/16/8 scoobs
17/10/2011 Stockholm IH 32/16/16/8 Boarder35m
17/10/2011 Orleans CH IH 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie
17/10/2011 Seoul CH H 32/16/16/8 keqtqiadv
17/10/2011 Quito CH CL 32/16/16/8 Direnan

dinkulpus
10-04-2011, 08:30 AM
Who win here?


Player A

NIEMINEN 7-6 6-7 6-3
GULBIS 7-6 6-3


Player B

NIEMINEN 3-6 7-5 6-4
GULBIS 7-5 6-4

Scores :

Nieminen lost 4:6 4:6
Gulbis won 3:6 6:3 7:5


Who is the winner?

kingroger
10-04-2011, 08:50 AM
I'm pretty sure Player B becuase he picked Nieminen to lose the first set :wavey:

scoobs
10-04-2011, 08:52 AM
Who win here?


Player A

NIEMINEN 7-6 6-7 6-3
GULBIS 7-6 6-3


Player B

NIEMINEN 3-6 7-5 6-4
GULBIS 7-5 6-4

Scores :

Nieminen lost 4:6 4:6
Gulbis won 3:6 6:3 7:5


Who is the winner?

Neither PTS score settles this match. Neither gave Nieminen's opponent a 64 set, and then one gave Gulbis a 63 set, the other gave Gulbis a 75 set so that's equal too.

dinkulpus
10-04-2011, 08:53 AM
I'm pretty sure Player B becuase he picked Nieminen to lose the first set :wavey:

I also think the same, but I need confirmation :p

Goldenoldie
10-04-2011, 09:00 AM
I'm pretty sure Player B becuase he picked Nieminen to lose the first set :wavey:

I also think the same, but I need confirmation :p

Agreed

Edit: I am an idiot and must not post opinions in a hurry.

dinkulpus
10-04-2011, 09:03 AM
I will wait till afternoon more people to share opinion, I already did diffs with two possible matches :p

kingroger
10-04-2011, 09:23 AM
Neither PTS score settles this match. Neither gave Nieminen's opponent a 64 set, and then one gave Gulbis a 63 set, the other gave Gulbis a 75 set so that's equal too.

Yep that's right.... But the match does not have to go to PTS as it is decided earlier with Player B's pick of Nieminen losing the first set :)

If match-up A wouldn't bring a result we would go to matchup B...
Then player A would win because he picked Gulbis to win the second set 6-3....

But anyway player B wind here...

Taz Warrior
10-04-2011, 09:48 AM
Yep that's right.... But the match does not have to go to PTS as it is decided earlier with Player B's pick of Nieminen losing the first set :)

If match-up A wouldn't bring a result we would go to matchup B...
Then player A would win because he picked Gulbis to win the second set 6-3....

But anyway player B wind here...

The PTS scores are equal, player B did pick Nieminen to lose the first set but player B picked him to lose the second set so the scores are tied at 3-3 ( 2 points for giving Bogomolov a set and 1 for the correct order of sets)

In PTS2 the scores are tied at 4-4 (both get 1 point for 1 set in the correct order and 3 points for a correct set scoreline)

RhinoG
10-04-2011, 04:21 PM
The PTS scores are equal, player B did pick Nieminen to lose the first set but player B picked him to lose the second set so the scores are tied at 3-3 ( 2 points for giving Bogomolov a set and 1 for the correct order of sets)

In PTS2 the scores are tied at 4-4 (both get 1 point for 1 set in the correct order and 3 points for a correct set scoreline)

Just to let you know...

I'm fairly new to TT, but browsing through this thread, I'm surprised there was any debate about this question. I've learnt the current rules, so it's clear to me that Gavnich77 is right. What surprises me are the people who disagree, who seem to be amongst the mainstays of TT (BTW, I really appreciate the time you put in to run this - thankyou :worship:); I imagine there's been a recent rule change, but if managers aren't clear about it, neither will players be.

The only constructive thing I can add is to suggest that an Idiot's Guide to TT might be a good idea; currently, learning the rules involves scrolling through some long threads - also, it might be useful as a reference for managers if needed.

dinkulpus
10-05-2011, 03:05 PM
Just to let you know...

I'm fairly new to TT, but browsing through this thread, I'm surprised there was any debate about this question. I've learnt the current rules, so it's clear to me that Gavnich77 is right. What surprises me are the people who disagree, who seem to be amongst the mainstays of TT (BTW, I really appreciate the time you put in to run this - thankyou :worship:); I imagine there's been a recent rule change, but if managers aren't clear about it, neither will players be.

The only constructive thing I can add is to suggest that an Idiot's Guide to TT might be a good idea; currently, learning the rules involves scrolling through some long threads - also, it might be useful as a reference for managers if needed.

I was pretty sure who win, I just want someone from the board to confirm, because if I made mistake it can happen a lot of mess :p

kingroger
10-05-2011, 08:55 PM
Can we discuss about Wildcards in the off-season???

I think it would be great if lower-ranked players had the chance to enter ATP-level tournaments in order to improve their ranking...
I would also suggest that only players outside the Top 100 are granted WC's. In addition the spirit of TT would improve as we wouldn't only have players ranked from 1-50 but also some underdogs!

Of course the amount of Wildcards per player should be limited to 4-5 a year (with 2-3 WC's offered in each tournament).

Every applicant for a WC should post an explanation in the tournament thread where his reasons and aims are shown (it must be visible for each participant of the tournament) - the manager and 2 or 3 other Direct Entrants (e.g. the first 3 seed) can then decide which text is worth a Wildcard.

We should really think about that - as I said - it's kind of boring if we always have the same pattern of participants.

Taz Warrior
10-05-2011, 09:34 PM
Can we discuss about Wildcards in the off-season???

I think it would be great if lower-ranked players had the chance to enter ATP-level tournaments in order to improve their ranking...
I would also suggest that only players outside the Top 100 are granted WC's. In addition the spirit of TT would improve as we wouldn't only have players ranked from 1-50 but also some underdogs!

Of course the amount of Wildcards per player should be limited to 4-5 a year (with 2-3 WC's offered in each tournament).

Every applicant for a WC should post an explanation in the tournament thread where his reasons and aims are shown (it must be visible for each participant of the tournament) - the manager and 2 or 3 other Direct Entrants (e.g. the first 3 seed) can then decide which text is worth a Wildcard.

We should really think about that - as I said - it's kind of boring if we always have the same pattern of participants.

Wildcards have been discussed 2 or 3 times before but no-one has ever come up with an objective system that works and the majority have been against it, however you are welcome to bring it up and reintroduce the subject

kingroger
10-05-2011, 10:06 PM
Wildcards have been discussed 2 or 3 times before but no-one has ever come up with an objective system that works and the majority have been against it, however you are welcome to bring it up and reintroduce the subject

What were the reasons against it??

I would suggest to form a WC-board that always decides which applicant receives a Wildcard. As I said every applicant should post his application in the thread and the board should decide which text is worth the Wildcard.... :wavey:

abollo
10-05-2011, 10:09 PM
What were the reasons against it??

I would suggest to form a WC-board that always decides which applicant receives a Wildcard. As I said every applicant should post his application in the thread and the board should decide which text is worth the Wildcard.... :wavey:

So the one who can convince you with his writing style deserves it?
I think it will bring many problems to TT. People would think this board is favouring someone (old friend, doubles partner, etc)

kingroger
10-06-2011, 07:31 AM
So the one who can convince you with his writing style deserves it?
I think it will bring many problems to TT. People would think this board is favouring someone (old friend, doubles partner, etc)

I know.... But therefore a board should be formed that makes rational decisions.....
nNot the writing style would deserve it - the reasons etc..

Players with average English language skills also won't be disadvantaged....

abollo
10-06-2011, 11:41 AM
And what should the reasons look like?

Direnan
10-06-2011, 03:14 PM
Marto say for someone if has problem?

In Palermo, the first match began there 4 hours...

dinkulpus
10-06-2011, 03:29 PM
first game already finished in palermo and we dont have diffs....:eek:

If you are so cheeky, why did you not take this tournament to manage :mad:
Yesterday I receive some reproaches for early deadline, now reproaches for late diffs.
Someone who want to run 1/2 finals and final in Palermo, I don't want to be manager to ungrateful people

sfar
10-06-2011, 03:55 PM
If you are so cheeky, why did you not take this tournament to manage :mad:
Yesterday I receive some reproaches for early deadline, now reproaches for late diffs.
Someone who want to run 1/2 finals and final in Palermo, I don't want to be manager to ungrateful people

I agree, SVK should be doing this. Marto has kindly offered to manage this tournament with conditions (early deadlines, late diffs) that everyone accepted because early deadlines and late diffs > no tournament... :eek:

kingroger
10-06-2011, 04:09 PM
And what should the reasons look like?

Check my first post about it....
I thought TT and real life Tennis should be equal - in real life tennis you only have 23 direct entrants and then 3 WC's.....

As I said I would like to form a board for this issue

justafanYYC
10-06-2011, 04:41 PM
How about wildcards by countries?

For example the top 3 players outside the MD can get a WC for their host ATP 500/1000 or grand slam tournament. For example, I'm Canadian, I can only apply for WC at Rogers Cup. If you're American you can apply for more tournaments. If your country has no tournaments then that sucks for you. That's sort of how it works in the real ATP is it not?

Direnan
10-06-2011, 04:49 PM
How about wildcards by countries?

For example the top 3 players outside the MD can get a WC for their host ATP 500/1000 or grand slam tournament. For example, I'm Canadian, I can only apply for WC at Rogers Cup. If you're American you can apply for more tournaments. If your country has no tournaments then that sucks for you. That's sort of how it works in the real ATP is it not?
I am from Sweden/Brazilian... =) rsrsrsr

Direnan
10-06-2011, 04:52 PM
If you are so cheeky, why did you not take this tournament to manage :mad:
Yesterday I receive some reproaches for early deadline, now reproaches for late diffs.
Someone who want to run 1/2 finals and final in Palermo, I don't want to be manager to ungrateful people
relax guy, only we strange, you not have spoken, as always. =D

Peace and girls, ever. ^^

abollo
10-06-2011, 04:56 PM
So should we all change our nationality to USA in the off-season

kingroger
10-06-2011, 06:01 PM
How about wildcards by countries?

For example the top 3 players outside the MD can get a WC for their host ATP 500/1000 or grand slam tournament. For example, I'm Canadian, I can only apply for WC at Rogers Cup. If you're American you can apply for more tournaments. If your country has no tournaments then that sucks for you. That's sort of how it works in the real ATP is it not?

I think you haven't understood the idea... That would not happen in TT as there would be a WC board... The manager of the tournament wouldn't have impact on the decision....

Direnan
10-06-2011, 06:03 PM
I can WC for Stockholm, please!

=+)

dinkulpus
10-06-2011, 07:51 PM
I will need assistant for Sao Jose Do Rio Preto, because I plan to play there :p

kingroger
10-06-2011, 08:16 PM
Who wins here??? Thats a doubles match between Kamke-Bachinger 64 64

Bachinger 7-6 4-6 6-3 Bachinger 6-3 3-6 6-3 Bachinger 7-6 6-4 Bachinger 6-4 4-6 6-3

Goffin-Mertens 64 64

Goffin 2-1 Goffin 2-1 Goffin 2-0 Goffin 2-0

I think Team B wins as they picked Goffin to win 2-0 but I'm not sure.....

kingroger
10-06-2011, 08:20 PM
Would be great if you can help

dinkulpus
10-06-2011, 08:24 PM
Team A, because both players give set to Bachinger and they win with shootout :p

Labamba
10-06-2011, 09:58 PM
this week :D


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

24/10/2011 Vienna IH 32/32/16/16 Boarder35m
24/10/2011 St. Petersburg IH 32/32/16/16 scoobs
24/10/2011 Sao Jose Do Rio Preto CL 32/32/16/16 Marto

Direnan
10-06-2011, 11:53 PM
this week :D


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

24/10/2011 Vienna IH 32/32/16/16 Boarder35m
24/10/2011 St. Petersburg IH 32/32/16/16 scoobs
24/10/2011 Sao Jose Do Rio Preto CL 32/32/16/16 Marto

Labamba in week, players below 150 does not play?

Goldenoldie
10-07-2011, 12:22 AM
Labamba in week, players below 150 does not play?

60 in each tournament is 180!

CoolyBri
10-07-2011, 12:32 PM
Who wins here??? Thats a doubles match between Kamke-Bachinger 64 64

Bachinger 7-6 4-6 6-3 Bachinger 6-3 3-6 6-3 Bachinger 7-6 6-4 Bachinger 6-4 4-6 6-3

Goffin-Mertens 64 64

Goffin 2-1 Goffin 2-1 Goffin 2-0 Goffin 2-0

I think Team B wins as they picked Goffin to win 2-0 but I'm not sure.....

It's probably too late now, but obviously Team B wins.
This match is decided on SRs (0 correct SRs for A, 2 for B), shoot-out is not used.

kingroger
10-07-2011, 12:37 PM
It's probably too late now, but obviously Team B wins.
This match is decided on SRs (0 correct SRs for A, 2 for B), shoot-out is not used.

WTF?!?! I was pretty sure that Team B won - I had the same opinion like you :mad:

Marto told me Team A wins - what should I do now????
HELP!!!!!

kingroger
10-07-2011, 12:50 PM
It's very urgent...

Taz Warrior
10-07-2011, 01:02 PM
It's probably too late now, but obviously Team B wins.
This match is decided on SRs (0 correct SRs for A, 2 for B), shoot-out is not used.

WTF?!?! I was pretty sure that Team B won - I had the same opinion like you :mad:

Marto told me Team A wins - what should I do now????
HELP!!!!!

The total number of SRs was equal (there were other differences) therefore it does go to SR shootout and Team A wins as Marto said.

CoolyBri
10-07-2011, 01:07 PM
I guess I should've checked the thread to know that there were other differences :)
Sorry.

kingroger
10-07-2011, 01:09 PM
The total number of SRs was equal (there were other differences) therefore it does go to SR shootout and Team A wins as Marto said.

Thank God! I was getting a bit nervous :D

No problem CoolyBri - everybody makes mistakes - So do I sometimes :)

justafanYYC
10-08-2011, 04:16 PM
I have one alternate and possibly many open spots in qualifying from missing picks.
Is there a rule on how to place the alternate or is it random draw?

Taz Warrior
10-08-2011, 04:19 PM
I have one alternate and possibly many open spots in qualifying from missing picks.
Is there a rule on how to place the alternate or is it random draw?

Out of the people who didn't send picks the player who was scheduled to face the lowest ranked player is replaced

kingroger
10-08-2011, 04:20 PM
I think the lowest ranked player whose opponent didn't send would get the Alt - in Real life, top seeds also get byes - but I'm not sure about it...

justafanYYC
10-08-2011, 05:01 PM
Thanks for the help! I was worried for nothing. Alot of late picks and only one missing picks.

dinkulpus
10-09-2011, 11:27 AM
What happens in this case:

Matches are:

Nadal - Federer
Murray - Djokovic
Cilic - Roddick


Team A

Nadal 2:0/ Nadal 2:1
Djokovic 2:1/Djokovic 2:0
Cilic 2:1/Roddick 2:0



Team B

Nadal 2:1/Nadal 2:0
Djokovic 2:1/Djokovic 2:0
Cilic 2:0/Roddick 2:0


Results are :

Nadal 2:1
Djokovic 2:0
Roddick 2:1



Is team A win, because they give to Roddick or match go to PTS?

scoobs
10-09-2011, 12:14 PM
What happens in this case:

Matches are:

Nadal - Federer
Murray - Djokovic
Cilic - Roddick


Team A

Nadal 2:0/ Nadal 2:1
Djokovic 2:1/Djokovic 2:0
Cilic 2:1/Roddick 2:0



Team B

Nadal 2:1/Nadal 2:0
Djokovic 2:1/Djokovic 2:0
Cilic 2:0/Roddick 2:0


Results are :

Nadal 2:1
Djokovic 2:0
Roddick 2:1



Is team A win, because they give to Roddick or match go to PTS?

Consider it from the point of view of diffs

Nadal 2:0 / Nadal 2:1 vs Nadal 2:1 / Nadal 2:0 - no diffs
Djokovic 2:1 / Djokovic 2:0 vs Djokovic 2:1 / Djokovic 2:0 - no diffs

Cilic 2:1 / Roddick 2:0 vs Cilic 2:0 / Roddick 2:0 - diff = Cilic 2:1 vs Cilic 2:0 Since Roddick won 2:1 then A gets in on set to winner, for Cilic 2:1 IMO

dinkulpus
10-12-2011, 09:08 PM
Need assistant for Brazil CH, someone who just to manage qualification on Saturday he/she should post Saturday and Sunday OOP and saturday diffs

Thunderfish8
10-13-2011, 12:06 AM
I've managed PAW and FITD and I kinda want to see what it's like to manage TT. It would be great if somebody was willing to show me the ropes by letting me assist them in their tournament.

Thanks :wavey:

Taz Warrior
10-13-2011, 06:00 AM
Need assistant for Brazil CH, someone who just to manage qualification on Saturday he/she should post Saturday and Sunday OOP and saturday diffs

I've managed PAW and FITD and I kinda want to see what it's like to manage TT. It would be great if somebody was willing to show me the ropes by letting me assist them in their tournament.

Thanks :wavey:

:wavey:

dinkulpus
10-13-2011, 09:00 AM
I've managed PAW and FITD and I kinda want to see what it's like to manage TT. It would be great if somebody was willing to show me the ropes by letting me assist them in their tournament.

Thanks :wavey:

kingroger also said he will help me, you can divide work or I don't know :p

Thunderfish8
10-13-2011, 10:50 AM
kingroger also said he will help me, you can divide work or I don't know :p

I'm playing in the Brazil CH so I don't think I'm allowed to help manage. I'll try the following week or something.
Thanks though :wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey:

dinkulpus
10-13-2011, 04:30 PM
I'm playing in the Brazil CH so I don't think I'm allowed to help manage. I'll try the following week or something.
Thanks though :wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey:

I also play :p
You can PM to kingroger and to make decision :wavey:

Goldenoldie
10-13-2011, 11:06 PM
Would anybody like to take Basel from me?

I'll do it if nobody volunteers, but to be honest I've had enough.

Taz Warrior
10-14-2011, 10:40 AM
Ville, I'd like to volunteer to manage the "Battle of the Sexes" during Basel/Valencia week

scoobs
10-14-2011, 01:21 PM
I need someone who can accept the picks of Blarghman and Holmzy and then send them on to me after play starts in Shanghai 1000.

Any volunteers?

Taz Warrior
10-14-2011, 01:30 PM
I need someone who can accept the picks of Blarghman and Holmzy and then send them on to me after play starts in Shanghai 1000.

Any volunteers?

I can do it

scoobs
10-14-2011, 02:10 PM
Thanks :yeah:

I need them sent to me at 9.30am British time please :)

Direnan
10-14-2011, 02:21 PM
I extended deadline in Quito.
Until 32 players in Main Draw or Sunday 12am CEST

Thunderfish8
10-14-2011, 04:23 PM
I also play :p
You can PM to kingroger and to make decision :wavey:

allright, then i'll help

Direnan
10-14-2011, 04:55 PM
URGENT!
Guys, Rogeda and FernandoToashiba signed up in Seoul.
After, they asked OUT in Seoul and signed up in Cali.

BUT, in Seoul, they entered the Qualy draw in Seoul...

and now?

scoobs
10-14-2011, 05:20 PM
I don't know. They withdrew after the final deadline for Seoul, which was 12:00 CEST today.

Direnan
10-14-2011, 06:20 PM
I don't know. They withdrew after the final deadline for Seoul, which was 12:00 CEST today.
My question more important is:

They play in Seoul or no play in none of the two tournaments?

Taz Warrior
10-14-2011, 06:45 PM
They play in Seoul as the final deadline had passed and the qualy draw had already been made

Labamba
10-15-2011, 09:23 AM
Ville, I'd like to volunteer to manage the "Battle of the Sexes" during Basel/Valencia week

thank you :worship:

dinkulpus
10-17-2011, 10:09 AM
Gav, I think it is time to open thread for battle of sexes, because I know how difficult is to find a girl for this tournament :p

Boarder35m
10-17-2011, 10:19 AM
This was the OOP for monday for TT Stockholm

Philipp Petzschner (GER) vs. Lukasz Kubot (POL) SR 1 PTS
Tommy Haas (GER) vs. Somdev Devvarman (IND) SR 2 PTS
Tobias Kamke (GER) vs. Andrey Golubev (KAZ) SR 3 PTS
Alejandro Falla (COL) vs. Jurgen Zopp (EST) SR 4 PTS
Sebastian Rieschick (GER) vs. Ivo Minar (CZE) SR 5 PTS
Marius Copil (ROU) vs. Cedrik-Marcel Stebe (GER) SR 6 PTS


1 player sent these picks:

Petzschner 6-3 3-6 6-4
Haas 6-3 6-4
Devvarman 6-3 6-4
Kamke 6-3 6-4
Falla 6-3 6-4
Minar 6-3 6-4
Stebe 6-3 6-4


I deleted the Devvarman pick, because Haas was picked first.
Would you have done the same or do I have to to delete both picks because they are invalid? :scratch:

Taz Warrior
10-17-2011, 10:23 AM
Gav, I think it is time to open thread for battle of sexes, because I know how difficult is to find a girl for this tournament :p

I'm going to do it today ;)

Taz Warrior
10-17-2011, 10:27 AM
This was the OOP for monday for TT Stockholm

Philipp Petzschner (GER) vs. Lukasz Kubot (POL) SR 1 PTS
Tommy Haas (GER) vs. Somdev Devvarman (IND) SR 2 PTS
Tobias Kamke (GER) vs. Andrey Golubev (KAZ) SR 3 PTS
Alejandro Falla (COL) vs. Jurgen Zopp (EST) SR 4 PTS
Sebastian Rieschick (GER) vs. Ivo Minar (CZE) SR 5 PTS
Marius Copil (ROU) vs. Cedrik-Marcel Stebe (GER) SR 6 PTS


1 player sent these picks:

Petzschner 6-3 3-6 6-4
Haas 6-3 6-4
Devvarman 6-3 6-4
Kamke 6-3 6-4
Falla 6-3 6-4
Minar 6-3 6-4
Stebe 6-3 6-4


I deleted the Devvarman pick, because Haas was picked first.
Would you have done the same or do I have to to delete both picks because they are invalid? :scratch:
:scratch: That's a difficult call, I think both options are perfectly valid so I'm happy with you using the Haas pick.

dinkulpus
10-18-2011, 08:23 AM
Ville, when we will have chance to choose November tournaments :p.
Also me or Fede (FERNET) will do GENIUS1787 cup (Europe vs. Rest of the World) :worship:.
The only question in which week to do it?

Direnan
10-18-2011, 06:44 PM
Ville, when we will have chance to choose November tournaments :p.
Also me or Fede (FERNET) will do GENIUS1787 cup (Europe vs. Rest of the World) :worship:.
The only question in which week to do it?
Big idea =)

Labamba
10-20-2011, 10:39 AM
Ville, when we will have chance to choose November tournaments :p.

I'll put them up tomorrow :)

sfar
10-21-2011, 11:10 AM
Just wanted to invite every manager to use the new version of the Entry List & Draw Maker, it was hard work and I would be pleased that this hard work would be useful for all managers.

Please read the Entry List & Draw Maker thread (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=190820) and check out what to do to use the latest version of the tool.

And don't forget to send me feedback on whatever you like & dislike or any error you find.

Thanks!!!

scoobs
10-22-2011, 07:19 AM
Question for a board member:

I'm running 2 day qualifying in St P.

A doubles team had a bye in R1 but they also haven't sent any picks for R1 or R2 so the result of the R1 match is "vacant" - whoever plays that team in R2 gets an effective by to R3.

Do I leave it as is or can I invoke the "no picks" rule and put the best losing team through to R2 in their place?