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l_mac
05-17-2011, 11:48 PM
Stuttgart, Umag

BU Los Angeles

Could also do any of the week beg 27/June tournaments if no-one else can.

ibreak4coffee
05-17-2011, 11:53 PM
Atlanta and/or Los Angeles please

keqtqiadv
05-18-2011, 02:54 AM
Davis Cup, Båstad, Poznan CH :p

BU: Hamburg

orangehat
05-18-2011, 04:51 AM
Milan CH, Turin CH

abollo
05-18-2011, 05:08 AM
Halle, Guadalajara CH, Braunschweig CH, Tampere CH
BU: Winnetka CH

*Jean*
05-18-2011, 06:02 AM
Why don't we play Pozoblanco during the week of Newport?

Yves.
05-18-2011, 06:55 AM
Why isn't Amsterdam included on the list?

dinkulpus
05-18-2011, 08:17 AM
June:

Wimbledon Singles (maybe with Alex), Braunschweig CH
BU : Eastbourne

July:

Los Angeles
BU : Bogota

Labamba
05-18-2011, 10:01 AM
Why don't we play Pozoblanco during the week of Newport?

Cordoba = Pozoblanco

Why isn't Amsterdam included on the list?

Amsterdam was cancelled :awww:

Goldenoldie
05-18-2011, 10:36 AM
Can I jump the gun, please Ville?

June
Milan CH, Turin CH
backup Eastbourne

July
Orbetello CH, Astana CH
backup Gstaad


If necessary Kosice CH and/or Winnetka CH instead of MIlan/Turin

Eddy DoubleD
05-18-2011, 10:43 AM
Astana CH, Poznan CH

BU: Sopot CH

StoGas
05-18-2011, 12:34 PM
I'll try Aptos challenger

CoolyBri
05-18-2011, 04:39 PM
Eastbourne
Oberstaufen

BU: Anything in those weeks

Belludal
05-18-2011, 06:27 PM
Cordoba or Bogota (Ville chooise one of this tournament that i would like to be manager)

Boarder35m
05-18-2011, 06:31 PM
Queen´s, Wimbledon doubles, Scheveningen Ch, Hamburg
BU: Nottingham 2 Ch, Gstaad

Yves.
05-18-2011, 06:38 PM
Amsterdam was cancelled :awww:

Holy shit, I didn't even know that :eek:

I just read it is being held next year.

abollo
05-19-2011, 12:58 PM
Qualies in Alessandria TT should start by Saturday, but some players in the qualy draw are going to be in the FQ of RG. What should I do?

-Evita-
05-19-2011, 01:40 PM
Qualies in Alessandria TT should start by Saturday, but some players in the qualy draw are going to be in the FQ of RG. What should I do?

RG qualifying will finish on Friday.

abollo
05-19-2011, 02:13 PM
RG qualifying will finish on Friday.

OK. Thanks, I though it will finish on Saturday

Labamba
05-19-2011, 11:05 PM
great stuff guys :yeah: :yeah:

June


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

06/06/2011 Queen's G 64/32/32/16 Boarder35m
06/06/2011 Halle G 32/16/16/8 abollo
06/06/2011 Nottingham 2 CH G 32/16/16/8 ?
06/06/2011 Kosice CH CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie

13/06/2011 Eastbourne G 32/32/16/16 Goldenoldie
13/06/2011 's-Hertogenbosch G 32/32/16/16 CoolyBri
13/06/2011 Milan CH CL 32/32/16/16 orangehat

20/06/2011 Wimbledon S G 128/128 mmarto193
20/06/2011 Wimbledon D G 64/64 Boarder35m
20/06/2011 Guadalajara CH H 32/16/16/8 abollo

27/06/2011 Braunschweig CH CL 32/16/16/8 mmarto193
27/06/2011 Turin CH CL 32/16/16/8 orangehat
27/06/2011 Winnetka CH H 32/16/16/8 abollo


July


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

04/07/2011 Davis Cup II - 8 teams keqtqiadv
04/07/2011 Newport G 32/32/16/16 ?
04/07/2011 Cordoba CH H 32/16/16/8 Belludal
04/07/2011 Scheveningen CH CL 32/16/16/8 Boarder35m
04/07/2011 Oberstaufen CH CL 32/16/16/8 CoolyBri

11/07/2011 Stuttgart CL 32/16/16/8 l_mac
11/07/2011 Båstad CL 32/16/16/8 keqtqiadv
11/07/2011 Bogota CH CL 32/16/16/8 mmarto193
11/07/2011 Sopot CH CL 32/16/16/8 Eddy DoubleD
11/07/2011 Aptos CH H 32/16/16/8 StoGas

18/07/2011 Hamburg CL 64/32/32/16 Boarder35m
18/07/2011 Atlanta H 32/16/16/8 ibreak4coffee
18/07/2011 Poznan CH CL 32/16/16/8 keqtqiadv
18/07/2011 Orbetello CH CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie

25/07/2011 Los Angeles H 32/16/16/8 ibreak4coffee
25/07/2011 Gstaad CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie
25/07/2011 Umag CL 32/16/16/8 l_mac
25/07/2011 Astana CH H 32/16/16/8 Eddy DoubleD
25/07/2011 Tampere CH CL 32/16/16/8 abollo

Labamba
05-19-2011, 11:06 PM
this week


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

06/06/2011 Queen's G 64/32/32/16 Boarder35m
06/06/2011 Halle G 32/16/16/8 abollo
06/06/2011 Nottingham 2 CH G 32/16/16/8 ?
06/06/2011 Kosice CH CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie


Somebody for Nottingham? :wavey:

dinkulpus
05-19-2011, 11:11 PM
If noone want to take it till Saturday, I can take it :wavey:
But let's give a chance another manager to take it first :D

StoGas
05-20-2011, 02:51 PM
I can take Nottingham 2 :)

abollo
05-21-2011, 07:42 AM
I have a question. Now after making the qualification draw in Alessandria and removing players in the MD, three players said they're out because they are going to send picks for RG as lucky losers. And I have 15 Alternates. Am I allowed to advance 3 players from the qualification to the MD and so there will be room for 3 ALTs??

Goldenoldie
05-21-2011, 09:18 AM
I would say no, as qualifying has started. You will have places for 3 LLs in the Main Draw

jmjhb
05-22-2011, 01:08 PM
Will there be a TT tournament for the end-of-year Challenger Tour finals for the top 8 challenger players?

Taz Warrior
05-22-2011, 01:57 PM
Will there be a TT tournament for the end-of-year Challenger Tour finals for the top 8 challenger players?

Just read about this in the Challenger thread - if the real-life tournament goes ahead then I think we should do it in TT

abollo
05-22-2011, 04:21 PM
Hey guys
Do you think 4 matches are enough for a first round in singles? Or should I make it a two day round?

ibreak4coffee
05-22-2011, 04:24 PM
Hey guys
Do you think 4 matches are enough for a first round in singles? Or should I make it a two day round?

Its up to you. I personally don't think 4 matches is enough - one player withdraws for example and you're down to three matches - but it up to the manager - taking 2-3 extra matches tomorrow can be hard for the manager.

Whatever you decide though, its your choice as manager ;)

-Evita-
05-22-2011, 05:06 PM
I usually add 2-3 matches from Tuesday for Round 1 in these cases but sometimes it depends on the matches. If you see that all 4 matches have clear favourites you should add more matches; but if there are likely to be enough differences from the 4 matches then it may be enough.

Taz Warrior
05-22-2011, 05:10 PM
I usually add 2-3 matches from Tuesday for Round 1 in these cases but sometimes it depends on the matches. If you see that all 4 matches have clear favourites you should add more matches; but if there are likely to be enough differences from the 4 matches then it may be enough.

I would agree with this

scoobs
05-22-2011, 05:16 PM
You should also bear in mind whether as manager you will be around on the next day enough to be able to deal with the split round situation - to post the results of R1 and post the R2 diffs once the round has completed in the middle of the day.

abollo
05-24-2011, 01:00 PM
Today I found out I'll be doing an internship from June 5th till June 16th and I am supposed to be managing Halle on that first week.
I don't know how many hours I'll be there and if I'll have internet access or not.
So I guess managing Halle won't be ideal for me as people would like to have their diffs on time.
I can update the entry lists and do the draws and post the OOP daily, but posting diffs on time from Sunday till Thursday might be a problem.
I am sorry for that, but I just got it right now.
Any thoughts?

dinkulpus
05-25-2011, 08:20 AM
When the players should be out from Roland Garros to play qualification and main draw in week 22 challenger :wavey:

dinkulpus
05-25-2011, 08:51 PM
When the players should be out from Roland Garros to play qualification and main draw in week 22 challenger :wavey:

Anyone :cool:

l_mac
05-25-2011, 09:47 PM
Anyone :cool:
Well, if they are in RGTT R4 they won't be able to play qualies because it's a 2 day round ending on Saturday.
If they are in RGTT QF they won't be able to play maindraw because it's a 2 day round ending on Monday.

(I think)

Does that make sense?

Goldenoldie
05-25-2011, 10:50 PM
When the players should be out from Roland Garros to play qualification and main draw in week 22 challenger :wavey:

You answered your own question in the Rijeka thread - what you said there is correct as far as I can see

dinkulpus
05-26-2011, 09:55 AM
Thanks fo confirmation Linda and Goleden :worship:

Boarder35m
05-26-2011, 08:25 PM
According to Fürth homepage, they start on sunday and only the final round of qualification (no main draw match) will be played on monday (the same as last year).

Can I change the schedule to?

TT SCHEDULE

SINGLES:

Sunday ~ TT Q1
Monday ~ TT Qualy Final Round
Tuesday ~ TT R32 (8 matches)
Tuesday ~ TT R16 (8 matches)
Wednesday & Thursday ~ TT QF
Friday ~ TT SF
Saturday & Sunday ~ TT Final

DOUBLES:

Sunday ~ TT Q1 & (Q2)
Monday ~ TT Qualy Final Round
Tuesday ~ TT R16
Wednesday & Thursday ~ TT QF
Friday ~ TT SF
Saturday & Sunday ~ TT Final


At the moment no qualy is needed in doubles, but since all 16 1st round matches are scheduled for tuesday I would prefer to keep it a 1-day 1st round in doubles :)

Goldenoldie
05-27-2011, 07:27 AM
According to Fürth homepage, they start on sunday and only the final round of qualification (no main draw match) will be played on monday (the same as last year).

Can I change the schedule to?

TT SCHEDULE

SINGLES:

Sunday ~ TT Q1
Monday ~ TT Qualy Final Round
Tuesday ~ TT R32 (8 matches)
Tuesday ~ TT R16 (8 matches)
Wednesday & Thursday ~ TT QF
Friday ~ TT SF
Saturday & Sunday ~ TT Final

DOUBLES:

Sunday ~ TT Q1 & (Q2)
Monday ~ TT Qualy Final Round
Tuesday ~ TT R16
Wednesday & Thursday ~ TT QF
Friday ~ TT SF
Saturday & Sunday ~ TT Final


At the moment no qualy is needed in doubles, but since all 16 1st round matches are scheduled for tuesday I would prefer to keep it a 1-day 1st round in doubles :)

That's a lot more sensible than the schedule I had last year when I was a rookie manager. Certainly no objections.

abollo
05-28-2011, 10:51 AM
Today I found out I'll be doing an internship from June 5th till June 16th and I am supposed to be managing Halle on that first week.
I don't know how many hours I'll be there and if I'll have internet access or not.
So I guess managing Halle won't be ideal for me as people would like to have their diffs on time.
I can update the entry lists and do the draws and post the OOP daily, but posting diffs on time from Sunday till Thursday might be a problem.
I am sorry for that, but I just got it right now.
Any thoughts?

:wavey:

dinkulpus
05-28-2011, 02:30 PM
I thins it is time to open threads for tournaments, which are in Eastbourne week :cool:

scoobs
05-28-2011, 10:18 PM
Is there any reason why Gallina can't play as an ALT for qualifying for the Nottingham CH?

Taz Warrior
05-29-2011, 08:42 AM
Is there any reason why Gallina can't play as an ALT for qualifying for the Nottingham CH?

Yes he can play as an ALT

Boarder35m
05-29-2011, 09:02 AM
Yes he can play as an ALT

:scratch:

Does the same apply to stbanchile?
He was in the original entry list, I put him out of that list on friday because he was still active in RG.
He then asked if he could be ALT for singles

Taz Warrior
05-29-2011, 09:30 AM
:scratch:

Does the same apply to stbanchile?
He was in the original entry list, I put him out of that list on friday because he was still active in RG.
He then asked if he could be ALT for singles

Ah, I didn't realise they were both still in RG on Saturday which means technically according to the rules that they can't play qualifying - I just thought the question was because Gallina had committed after the 2nd deadline. They can both still play doubles though or be a MD alternate.

Boarder35m
05-29-2011, 09:44 AM
Ah, I didn't realise they were both still in RG on Saturday which means technically according to the rules that they can't play qualifying - I just thought the question was because Gallina had committed after the 2nd deadline. They can both still play doubles though or be a MD alternate.

This is really complicated. :p
Originally there were 16 doubles entries and stbanchile and CoolyBri confirmed as ALT after the 2nd deadline.
Because 1 player is still active in RG one doubles team will be taken out of the competition.
Can the ALT team replace this team so that there are still 16 teams, or can the ALT team only enter MD doubles if 1 team doesn´t send?

Taz Warrior
05-29-2011, 09:54 AM
This is really complicated. :p
Originally there were 16 doubles entries and stbanchile and CoolyBri confirmed as ALT after the 2nd deadline.
Because 1 player is still active in RG one doubles team will be taken out of the competition.
Can the ALT team replace this team so that there are still 16 teams, or can the ALT team only enter MD doubles if 1 team doesn´t send?

:scratch:
I think they can as long as the draw hasn't been made but I'm really not sure - can anyone else confirm this? Murilo?

dinkulpus
05-29-2011, 02:02 PM
Please someone to have a look in Rijeka CH, to see that I place the alternatives correct :rolleyes:

Goldenoldie
05-29-2011, 03:04 PM
May I have a second opinion please? In Prostejov the #1 in the qualifying list is Dexter, and he asked in the thread whether he would replace jcreback (still at the time in RG) in the Main Draw.

I said No, because jcreback could have lost in RG before the Main Draw was made, and if he won his place would be taken by a Lucky Loser. I said Dexter should play the Qualifiers.

jcreback won, so there is a MD place vacant. Does it go to a LL (as I think) or to Dexter. The MD has not yet been done, so no problem either way.

keqtqiadv
05-29-2011, 04:13 PM
:scratch:
I think they can as long as the draw hasn't been made but I'm really not sure - can anyone else confirm this? Murilo?
Yes, I don't think there's any problem in adding the alternates to the draw.
Please someone to have a look in Rijeka CH, to see that I place the alternatives correct :rolleyes:
Yes, the alt placement is correct now :p
May I have a second opinion please? In Prostejov the #1 in the qualifying list is Dexter, and he asked in the thread whether he would replace jcreback (still at the time in RG) in the Main Draw.

I said No, because jcreback could have lost in RG before the Main Draw was made, and if he won his place would be taken by a Lucky Loser. I said Dexter should play the Qualifiers.

jcreback won, so there is a MD place vacant. Does it go to a LL (as I think) or to Dexter. The MD has not yet been done, so no problem either way.
I think it goes to Dexter.
After making the qualifying draw, a vacancy occurs in the main draw. How is the vacancy filled?
If the qualifying competition has begun, the vacancy is filled by the eligible lucky loser. If the qualifying competition has not begun, the vacancy is filled by the next player on the alternate list.

Labamba
05-29-2011, 10:58 PM
back from RG :)

Labamba
05-29-2011, 11:01 PM
this week


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

13/06/2011 Eastbourne G 32/32/16/16 Goldenoldie
13/06/2011 's-Hertogenbosch G 32/32/16/16 CoolyBri
13/06/2011 Milan CH CL 32/32/16/16 orangehat

Belludal
05-30-2011, 06:24 PM
Only a question for the managers.

Picks A:

Murray 6-3 6-4 6-2
Federer 3-0
Djokovic 3-0
Soderling 3-0

Picks B:

Murray 7-6 6-1 6-0
Federer 3-0
Djokovic 3-1
Soderling 3-0

Example of results:

Murray 6-4 6-4 6-4
Federer 3-0
Djokovic 3-2
Soderling 3-0

Who Player wins? Player A on Points or Player B because picked that Djokovic would lose 1 set more than player A?

Colt th magnific
05-30-2011, 07:54 PM
Oops, too late for July's tournament :rolls:

keqtqiadv
05-30-2011, 08:34 PM
Only a question for the managers.

Picks A:

Murray 6-3 6-4 6-2
Federer 3-0
Djokovic 3-0
Soderling 3-0

Picks B:

Murray 7-6 6-1 6-0
Federer 3-0
Djokovic 3-1
Soderling 3-0

Example of results:

Murray 6-4 6-4 6-4
Federer 3-0
Djokovic 3-2
Soderling 3-0

Who Player wins? Player A on Points or Player B because picked that Djokovic would lose 1 set more than player A?
Player A wins on PTS.

scoobs
05-30-2011, 10:00 PM
People committing as ALT players - purely based on commitment order, or ranking, or what?

Taz Warrior
05-30-2011, 10:15 PM
People committing as ALT players - purely based on commitment order, or ranking, or what?

Order of commitment :)

scoobs
05-30-2011, 10:16 PM
Order of commitment :)
merci ;)

Labamba
06-03-2011, 10:58 PM
this week


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

20/06/2011 Wimbledon S G 128/128 mmarto193
20/06/2011 Wimbledon D G 64/64 Boarder35m
20/06/2011 Guadalajara CH H 32/16/16/8 abollo

orangehat
06-06-2011, 03:43 AM
Sry ville, won't be able to do Turin after all. :o

Sry about that.

Goldenoldie
06-06-2011, 10:56 AM
Sry ville, won't be able to do Turin after all. :o

Sry about that.

I'll take Turin

dinkulpus
06-06-2011, 10:59 AM
I'll take Turin

Jim, you will manage two tournaments in one week :worship:.
It's impossible to me for take it, because at that week Wimbledon qualies start, if you need some help just PM to me :wavey:

Goldenoldie
06-06-2011, 11:04 AM
Jim, you will manage two tournaments in one week :worship:.
It's impossible to me for take it, because at that week Wimbledon qualies start, if you need some help just PM to me :wavey:

Marto, I think you were looking at Milan, not Turin.

Turin takes place during the second week of Wimbledon! :D

dinkulpus
06-06-2011, 11:05 AM
Marto, I think you were looking at Milan, not Turin.

Turin takes place during the second week of Wimbledon! :D

Yes, they sounds very similar to me, sorry :o

Belludal
06-06-2011, 12:54 PM
When the year finish Goldenoldie will had be manager in 40 Tournaments probably :eek::cool:

Myth! :worship:

orangehat
06-06-2011, 01:17 PM
Thanks Jim :yeah:

Goldenoldie
06-06-2011, 04:40 PM
When the year finish Goldenoldie will had be manager in 40 Tournaments probably :eek::cool:

Myth! :worship:

Not 40, 20 maybe.
I might take August to November off!

StoGas
06-06-2011, 08:25 PM
Hey everybody, have a question. If I know that I'll be late for posting diffs, could I ask players to send picks earlier and post them earlier. Or post half of picks that I've got and for those who were late, show the diffs later?

-Evita-
06-06-2011, 09:57 PM
Hey everybody, have a question. If I know that I'll be late for posting diffs, could I ask players to send picks earlier and post them earlier. Or post half of picks that I've got and for those who were late, show the diffs later?

You are allowed to set the deadline earlier than the official OOP (like 1 hour earlier) but you shouldn't do it unless absolutely necessary. If you already set the deadline then you're not allowed to change it.

You can't post picks or differences before the deadline because people have a right to change their picks. What you can do is PM the differences you have to an assistant manager who would post them after the deadline.

Taz Warrior
06-06-2011, 10:04 PM
Also if you set an earlier deadline you should make sure that the OOP is up in plenty of time and make sure the early deadline is clear (in big, bold letters) and maybe put it in the thread title.

Taz Warrior
06-06-2011, 10:05 PM
Not 40, 20 maybe.
I might take August to November off!
No you can't, you're addicted to managing :lol:

Goldenoldie
06-07-2011, 01:36 AM
No you can't, you're addicted to managing :lol:

That might depend on my new girlfriend :p

dinkulpus
06-07-2011, 03:18 AM
Braunschweig is 120 points, right :wavey:

StoGas
06-07-2011, 09:35 PM
If all the ATP Round 2 matches are in one day (Wednsday). Should I make it one day Quater-Final?

-Evita-
06-07-2011, 09:39 PM
If all the ATP Round 2 matches are in one day (Wednsday). Should I make it one day Quater-Final?

Yes, it usually means a Saturday final.

Taz Warrior
06-07-2011, 09:42 PM
If all the ATP Round 2 matches are in one day (Wednsday). Should I make it one day Quater-Final?

yes

StoGas
06-09-2011, 07:53 PM
OUT from Aptos. Let someone from America manage it, to make diffs, results and oop in time :wavey:

orangehat
06-10-2011, 04:21 PM
Would someone mind posting the OoP in Milan? :wavey:

It's a 2-round qualifying for TT tomorrow so the OoP needs to be split in 2.

Thanks :D

Labamba
06-10-2011, 09:36 PM
this week


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

27/06/2011 Braunschweig CH CL 32/16/16/8 mmarto193
27/06/2011 Turin CH CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie
27/06/2011 Winnetka CH H 32/16/16/8 abollo

Labamba
06-10-2011, 09:37 PM
Braunschweig is 120 points, right :wavey:

yep

Goldenoldie
06-10-2011, 10:53 PM
I probably won't have time to open the Turin thread before Monday, but it will be done!

CoolyBri
06-11-2011, 10:30 PM
I just came to know that I will have to leave ~1 hour before tomorrow's deadline in 's-Hertogenbosch.
Is someone able to post the diffs? I would prepare the post and send it by PM :)

dinkulpus
06-11-2011, 10:42 PM
I will do it :wavey:

Colt th magnific
06-12-2011, 02:12 PM
OUT from Aptos. Let someone from America manage it, to make diffs, results and oop in time :wavey:

Aptos ? Why not :D

orangehat
06-12-2011, 03:53 PM
Can someone post the OoP in Milan Ch again today? :angel:

Matches count for 1-day R32 in singles and FInal qualifying round in doubles.

Thanks :wavey:

Boarder35m
06-13-2011, 12:46 PM
In TT Wimbledon several players did not send for doubles qualy 1st round and only 1 ALT team send picks.
There are 2 matches were only 1 player send from both teams.

Does the ALT team replace one of the teams from these matches or does it replace the team that faces the lowest ranked team regardless whether both send or not? :wavey:

abollo
06-13-2011, 12:50 PM
In TT Wimbledon several players did not send for doubles qualy 1st round and only 1 ALT team send picks.
There are 2 matches were only 1 player send from both teams.

Does the ALT replace one of the teams from these matches or does it replace the team that faces the lowest ranked team regardless whether both send or not? :wavey:

As far as I know they should be placed against the lowest ranked team

dinkulpus
06-13-2011, 01:41 PM
Why Rolland Garros is in "Current tournaments" forum?

dinkulpus
06-14-2011, 01:17 AM
Ville, maybe I will travel at the weekend, which Bogota quali should be play, so I can't do quali draw and first round on Saturday, anyone want to assist me for this. Another days will be OK :wavey:

abollo
06-14-2011, 10:19 PM
Am I allowed to play Winnetka ?? I know there are 2 other challengers that week, but my partner committed to Winnetka and I would really like to play with him

Labamba
06-17-2011, 10:06 PM
this week :D

July


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

04/07/2011 Davis Cup II - 8 teams keqtqiadv
04/07/2011 Newport G 32/32/16/16 l_mac
04/07/2011 Cordoba CH H 32/16/16/8 Belludal
04/07/2011 Scheveningen CH CL 32/16/16/8 Boarder35m
04/07/2011 Oberstaufen CH CL 32/16/16/8 CoolyBri

l_mac
06-18-2011, 01:31 AM
I'll take Newport. I can't do Umag anymore because I am going on holiday that week. Sorry :sad:

Labamba
06-18-2011, 05:24 PM
thanks Linda :yeah:

Belludal
06-18-2011, 05:29 PM
Cordoba Challeger is a Challenger of 120 Points or 90 Points?

abollo
06-18-2011, 05:48 PM
Hey
I have a question. Now in Guadalajara Challenger after doing the qualification draws and players sent picks and I posted diffs, there were alot of players still in Wimbledon MD and they won their matches today so I removed their names and so we have more than 8 spots for MD singles and more than 4 for MD doubles. So should I still do a final qualification round or isn't it necessarily?

Colt th magnific
06-18-2011, 06:35 PM
Aptos ? Why not :D

:p

abollo
06-18-2011, 07:49 PM
Hey
I have a question. Now in Guadalajara Challenger after doing the qualification draws and players sent picks and I posted diffs, there were alot of players still in Wimbledon MD and they won their matches today so I removed their names and so we have more than 8 spots for MD singles and more than 4 for MD doubles. So should I still do a final qualification round or isn't it necessarily?

To be more clear there are 20 MD players and 8 teams. I need to know if I have to make a final round or not?

Taz Warrior
06-18-2011, 08:01 PM
To be more clear there are 20 MD players and 8 teams. I need to know if I have to make a final round or not?

So, if I understand what you're saying it means that everyone in the FQR will get into the MD as either a qualifier or a LL. If that's right and you haven't done the MDs then I don't think there is any need for a FQR.

abollo
06-18-2011, 08:03 PM
So, if I understand what you're saying it means that everyone in the FQR will get into the MD as either a qualifier or a LL. If that's right and you haven't done the MDs then I don't think there is any need for a FQR.

Yes exactly. Thank you :worship:

Belludal
06-19-2011, 03:04 AM
Cordoba Challeger is a Challenger of 120 Points or 90 Points?

Looking for a answer! :wavey:

Direnan
06-19-2011, 04:13 AM
So, if I understand what you're saying it means that everyone in the FQR will get into the MD as either a qualifier or a LL. If that's right and you haven't done the MDs then I don't think there is any need for a FQR.
but gain the points of qualy?

Labamba
06-19-2011, 08:49 AM
Looking for a answer! :wavey:

120 pts

Labamba
06-19-2011, 08:50 AM
:p

noted :p

superhoops
06-20-2011, 01:52 PM
but gain the points of qualy?

You'd presume so, whether there was one qualy round or four rounds, the player still qualified and therefore should receive the respective points. I doubt the LLs would gain qualy points though.

Taz Warrior
06-21-2011, 11:14 AM
You'd presume so, whether there was one qualy round or four rounds, the player still qualified and therefore should receive the respective points. I doubt the LLs would gain qualy points though.

Yes, the players will receive the qualy points. In hindsight the FQR should have been played for the qualy points therefore all players in the FQR round will receive the qualy points.

dinkulpus
06-23-2011, 11:51 PM
Anyone helping me with Bogota :confused:

abollo
06-24-2011, 09:21 PM
If a team committed after the deadline, but before I do the draw, should I include them?

keqtqiadv
06-24-2011, 09:59 PM
No. But they can be qualifying alternates.
Players who commit after the final deadline and players who are only in the doubles list:

They can be alternates for the qualifying draw or MD if there was no qualifying.

dinkulpus
06-25-2011, 02:33 PM
As I wrote before I can't manage Bogota first quali draw if someone can help me with making quali draw and first round on Saturday I will take it, if no I can't manage it :sad:

abollo
06-25-2011, 09:19 PM
In Winnekta CH I thought it would be a Saturday start as most challenegers are, but it turn out to be a Sunday start and I have already done the draw yesterday removing players in Wimbledon R4 in the qualy draw. Should I now remove players in Wimbledon QF in the main draw and so some players in the current qualy draw will advance to the MD and they would be replaced by ALTs in the qualy. Or no changes are allowed and player who will be removed from the MD will be replaces by a LL ??

keqtqiadv
06-26-2011, 02:20 AM
In Winnekta CH I thought it would be a Saturday start as most challenegers are, but it turn out to be a Sunday start and I have already done the draw yesterday removing players in Wimbledon R4 in the qualy draw. Should I now remove players in Wimbledon QF in the main draw and so some players in the current qualy draw will advance to the MD and they would be replaced by ALTs in the qualy. Or no changes are allowed and player who will be removed from the MD will be replaces by a LL ??
First one :p
After making the qualifying draw, a vacancy occurs in the main draw. How is the vacancy filled?
If the qualifying competition has begun, the vacancy is filled by the eligible lucky loser. If the qualifying competition has not begun, the vacancy is filled by the next player on the alternate list.

abollo
06-26-2011, 06:44 PM
Hey again :p
could someone from the board check this ALT replacment: http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=11161854&postcount=97
If in two matches 3 players forget to send
A vs. B missing picks from both
C vs. D missing picks from D
Player C is the best ranked and we have only 2 ALTs
Which is the right one?
ALT1 vs. ALT 2 no missing picks
C vs. D missing picks from D

or

ALT1 vs. B missing picks from B
C vs. ALT2 no missing picks

I thought I should do it the first way, but am I allowed to put 2 ALTs in one match and another match doesn't get any?

keqtqiadv
06-27-2011, 01:47 AM
Hey again :p
could someone from the board check this ALT replacment: http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=11161854&postcount=97
If in two matches 3 players forget to send
A vs. B missing picks from both
C vs. D missing picks from D
Player C is the best ranked and we have only 2 ALTs
Which is the right one?
ALT1 vs. ALT 2 no missing picks
C vs. D missing picks from D

or

ALT1 vs. B missing picks from B
C vs. ALT2 no missing picks

I thought I should do it the first way, but am I allowed to put 2 ALTs in one match and another match doesn't get any?
First one :p The best ranked players should always get the WO wins.

dinkulpus
06-27-2011, 11:36 AM
Big problem in one CH, I thought that today we will have more matches and to start main draw today, but I have only 4 matches and MD will start tomorrow, in that case I take off players who was playing today matches in Wimbledon, but one player ask if he lose today on Wimbledon, can he play from tomorrow in main draw? So I can accept him because make main draw, final quali round will be play today, so this is impossible, that happened because today the play only quali matches :o

Boarder35m
06-27-2011, 03:56 PM
Does the set to winner rule only work in best of 3 matches are also in best of 2 matches, like when one player picks Malisse 3-2 the other Malisse 3-1 and Tomic wins 3-0?

I thought I remembered that someone said that it doesn´t work during on of the other slams this year, but I´m not sure anymore :awww:

Taz Warrior
06-27-2011, 04:08 PM
Does the set to winner rule only work in best of 3 matches are also in best of 2 matches, like when one player picks Malisse 3-2 the other Malisse 3-1 and Tomic wins 3-0?

I thought I remembered that someone said that it doesn´t work during on of the other slams this year, but I´m not sure anymore :awww:

Yes it does apply in 5 set matches – see example 7 of post 6 in the FAQ thread.

Therefore in this case Malisse 3-2 beats Malisse 3-1.

Boarder35m
06-27-2011, 04:11 PM
Yes it does apply in 5 set matches – see example 7 of post 6 in the FAQ thread.

Therefore in this case Malisse 3-2 beats Malisse 3-1.

Thank you. :worship:

I really don´t know why but for some reason I thought this rule would only work for best of 3 matches. :shrug:

dinkulpus
06-27-2011, 04:18 PM
Yes it does apply in 5 set matches – see example 7 of post 6 in the FAQ thread.

Therefore in this case Malisse 3-2 beats Malisse 3-1.

And about my case :scratch:

Goldenoldie
06-27-2011, 06:01 PM
And about my case :scratch:

This is difficult. You have published the main draw, so in my opinion you should not change it. In Turin I had today's matches counting for the First round of the Main Draw, even though they were Turin's FQR matches, so the problem did not arise.

Elirj70 should be able to play Braunchweig if he leaves Wimbledon today, but as I said, I don't think you should change the draw.

I believe the last time something similar occurred, the manager put the player as lucky loser #1, and I think this would be the fairest solution in your case. However I think you should wait for a more experienced Board member to also comment.

dinkulpus
06-27-2011, 06:07 PM
As I said my idea was to split today OOP, but there was 4 matches only :mad:

Machado
06-27-2011, 06:22 PM
This is difficult. You have published the main draw, so in my opinion you should not change it. In Turin I had today's matches counting for the First round of the Main Draw, even though they were Turin's FQR matches, so the problem did not arise.

Elirj70 should be able to play Braunchweig if he leaves Wimbledon today, but as I said, I don't think you should change the draw.

I believe the last time something similar occurred, the manager put the player as lucky loser #1, and I think this would be the fairest solution in your case. However I think you should wait for a more experienced Board member to also comment.

Are you sure that this is the fairest solution? Is it fair to me when I'm the LL#2?

Or the fairest solution would be following the TT Rules?

From the "Tennis Tipping FAQ/Guide":

How to procede during challengers on a Grand Slam's second week?

If the player reaches a GS R16, they are out of qualifying; if they reach GS week 2, that means they are out of the challenger. These tournaments usually have a Tuesday start, so it's possible to play two qualifying rounds on Sunday & Monday. Players who are out of quallies can still be MD alternates or play doubles in these challengers if they don't reach the GS 2nd week.

This is the rule! There's no need to put fairness here...

mmarto did what he had to do!

Taz Warrior
06-27-2011, 09:12 PM
^ Yes, I agree with Machado - the draw shouldn't be changed. If you reach a GS QF you can't play in the Challeneger in the second week.

superhoops
06-27-2011, 09:29 PM
Gav, do singles rankings get updated during the second week of a GS or do they wait until the GS is finished?

dinkulpus
06-27-2011, 09:35 PM
Gav, do singles rankings get updated during the second week of a GS or do they wait until the GS is finished?

No, during grand slam ranking do not update in the second week, same goes for Indian Wells and Miami :wavey:

keqtqiadv
06-27-2011, 09:59 PM
Are you sure that this is the fairest solution? Is it fair to me when I'm the LL#2?

Or the fairest solution would be following the TT Rules?

From the "Tennis Tipping FAQ/Guide":

How to procede during challengers on a Grand Slam's second week?

If the player reaches a GS R16, they are out of qualifying; if they reach GS week 2, that means they are out of the challenger. These tournaments usually have a Tuesday start, so it's possible to play two qualifying rounds on Sunday & Monday. Players who are out of quallies can still be MD alternates or play doubles in these challengers if they don't reach the GS 2nd week.

This is the rule! There's no need to put fairness here...

mmarto did what he had to do!
Correct, Elirj70 wouldn't be allowed to play the CH. But he won his QF match anyway :p

dinkulpus
06-29-2011, 01:02 AM
First I want to apologize for that but I can't manage Bogota, the reason is that this evening finally I received an answer from company and they invite me to sign a contract for work in July and August, so it will be impossible to take the tournament, so I can't manage anything till the end of August, I'm not sure I can play TT. One more time sorry about this but I don't want to miss this opportunity because of one game, I'm sure that someone will take Bogota :wavey:

Eddy DoubleD
06-30-2011, 08:52 AM
Sopot CH is a 120 points event, right?:wavey:

keqtqiadv
06-30-2011, 09:59 PM
Sopot CH is a 120 points event, right?:wavey:
yes :p

Adder A216
06-30-2011, 10:30 PM
Can someone tell me why jcreback has been banned? I Cant contact him anymore! Cheating?

abollo
06-30-2011, 10:32 PM
Can someone tell me why jcreback has been banned? I Cant contact him anymore! Cheating?


jcreback 06-25-2011 09-25-2011, ~05:00 AM Wishing Death

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=91035

Adder A216
07-01-2011, 05:41 AM
OK.... thank you, I didnt know about the thread with the banned users

l_mac
07-02-2011, 07:31 AM
I can't find the draw/OOP for Newport qualies.

Two players have sent me picks, but I don't see where they got the OOP from. Only 8 and a half hours till play begins :sobbing:

StoGas
07-02-2011, 07:50 AM
On the official ATP app there's oop and the draw. I'll forward the matches for 2nd of July if you still need it.

l_mac
07-02-2011, 07:52 AM
On the official ATP app there's oop and the draw. I'll forward the matches for 2nd of July if you still need it.

No, I found them. The atp had the wrong link on their stupid website.

Boarder35m
07-02-2011, 09:11 AM
I can't find the draw/OOP for Newport qualies.

Two players have sent me picks, but I don't see where they got the OOP from. Only 8 and a half hours till play begins :sobbing:

I have the same problems with Scheveningen challenger. :awww:
Luckily they can be found on their homepage though :p

If anybody know the correct ATP link to the draw/OOP for Scheveningen qualies please post it here. :shrug:

l_mac
07-02-2011, 01:18 PM
I missed a team from the Newport entry list.

One of the seeded teams has a bye in the qualie draw, should I replace the bye with the missed team?

rvugt
07-02-2011, 05:41 PM
I missed a team from the Newport entry list.

One of the seeded teams has a bye in the qualie draw, should I replace the bye with the missed team?

Huh? This is not possible right? First round is played today and the first seeded team expected to have a bye for today. You can't change that anymore. Can't you place them as an Alt?

l_mac
07-03-2011, 01:10 AM
Huh? This is not possible right? First round is played today and the first seeded team expected to have a bye for today. You can't change that anymore. Can't you place them as an Alt?

One of them sent late anyway.

l_mac
07-03-2011, 05:41 PM
I'm not managing Tzar in any more tournaments.

If that's an issue, then I'm just going to stop managing tournaments completely. He should have been reprimanded before now for his behaviour toward TT managers, and as far as I'm aware he hasn't been. I'm done with him now. Enough.

ibreak4coffee
07-03-2011, 09:31 PM
I'm not able to manage Los Angeles anymore because of work travel. Can anyone manage this tournament? :wavey:

Tzar
07-03-2011, 10:33 PM
I'm not managing Tzar in any more tournaments.

If that's an issue, then I'm just going to stop managing tournaments completely. He should have been reprimanded before now for his behaviour toward TT managers, and as far as I'm aware he hasn't been. I'm done with him now. Enough.

Stop screwing up and I'll have nothing to complain about. :shrug:

It's quite simple.

I know it wasn't your fault that the ATP fucked up, but as a manager is your responsibility to adjust the schedule so it works out without inconveniences.

Yes, you asked the board, got no response, which is understandable since everything happened so quick and with little notice, but you should've taken precautions and moved everything til sunday.. Yes, a little more messy, more work , but it would've been better for everyone.

You didn't. what was the result? Over 10 players didn't send because of it. I'm sorry I'm not willing to stick my tongue in my ass and nod blissfully as I see managers fuck up again and again. Yes, I like to speak up, because I believe shit should be done the right way. I posted SEVERAL hours, at 1-2AM ET to warn you about what was going on - as I assumed you were probably sleeping European time, but giving you an Idea to fix it yet decided to go ahead, publish the OOP, which led to many players/teams not sending picks and losing. :shrug:

Maybe the way I say things is a little harsh, but I'm not the type of person to just sit and agree when I know things are not okay.

THANK YOUUUUU :)

dinkulpus
07-03-2011, 10:43 PM
I'm not managing Tzar in any more tournaments.

If that's an issue, then I'm just going to stop managing tournaments completely. He should have been reprimanded before now for his behaviour toward TT managers, and as far as I'm aware he hasn't been. I'm done with him now. Enough.

Me too, as I said I have a black list, I know I'm not the best manager, but always try to give my best and don't forger managers don't receive salary or any other bonuses, they only do it to keep alive games, don't forget that they have life outside forum, family, work and daily routines like anyone else, so please be patient to them.
I think the board should warn Tzar and if he continue his behaviour to ban him from Tennis Tipping :wavey:
I'm supporting Linda and I will also do not like Tzar to play tournaments which I manage, maybe with little exceptions like Grand slam and etc.

Allez-Alejo
07-03-2011, 10:49 PM
I used all the time until I finished school and got a real job. Maybe managers should get stipends...depending on how well the tournament runs. ;-). Hey...wimbly ran pretty smoothy.

rvugt
07-03-2011, 11:48 PM
Okay, checking the code of conduct, which is the guideline that is already there, tells me this:

Tzar has a point:
2.9 The manager will publish the OOPs as soon as possible, and will attempt to give a window of at least 12 hours for the players to send picks.
As it wasn't 12 hours, he could have changed something. But on the other hand, he did post it as soon as possible, which if according to the code. So maybe, if we want we should mention what a manager would have to do when the OOP is published later.

About Tzar:

3.4 Players may request OOPs, differences or results before the deadlines mentioned in this code, but must do so politely.

3.7 Players must not personally abuse the manager, their opponents or any fellow player.
To me, his behavior in the thread wasn't polite at all. But well, see for yourself in the following post!

You're such a joke l_mac, how could you go through with that OOP, with a 7 hour window, when most people in the US, and america were sleeping. Bullshit. Over 10 players didn't send, you're such a joke, like really?

I would say, what should happen! First time. This is what the code should be used for! Having a general guideline in this!


3.11 For an infraction of the code the player will be reported to the TT board and suspended from the current tournament. Provided 3 board members approve, he will be expelled from the current tournament and his opponent given a walkover. The player may continue to send picks while his suspension is considered.

3.13 For a second serious offence, the player will be banned for a period of four weeks from the end of the current tournament. A third offence will receive a ban of 13 weeks, and a fourth a lifetime ban. A lifetime ban would require the assent of 4 board members rather than 3. Punishments may be reduced at the Board's discretion if there are extenuating circumstances.

dinkulpus
07-03-2011, 11:55 PM
The point 2.9 is impossible for Saturday qualies, usually OOP is ready 8-10 hours before the match begins :p

rvugt
07-03-2011, 11:58 PM
The point 2.9 is impossible for Saturday qualies, usually OOP is ready 8-10 hours before the match begins :p

I know! ;) But please, before starting to shout all kind of things, look at where people have a point according to the Code! And he had a point there, so that should be changed! But he did insult people, so he should get his first warning!

I know you probably got my point, but I did wanted to put it down once again, to be certain everybody reads it the right way!

ibreak4coffee
07-04-2011, 12:00 AM
Stop screwing up and I'll have nothing to complain about. :shrug:

It's quite simple.

I know it wasn't your fault that the ATP fucked up, but as a manager is your responsibility to adjust the schedule so it works out without inconveniences.

Yes, you asked the board, got no response, which is understandable since everything happened so quick and with little notice, but you should've taken precautions and moved everything til sunday.. Yes, a little more messy, more work , but it would've been better for everyone.

You didn't. what was the result? Over 10 players didn't send because of it. I'm sorry I'm not willing to stick my tongue in my ass and nod blissfully as I see managers fuck up again and again. Yes, I like to speak up, because I believe shit should be done the right way. I posted SEVERAL hours, at 1-2AM ET to warn you about what was going on - as I assumed you were probably sleeping European time, but giving you an Idea to fix it yet decided to go ahead, publish the OOP, which led to many players/teams not sending picks and losing. :shrug:

Maybe the way I say things is a little harsh, but I'm not the type of person to just sit and agree when I know things are not okay.

THANK YOUUUUU :)

There is a way of voicing complaints in a civilized way that doesn't belittle those who make this game run - you've never figured out how to do this. Your comments today crossed the line.

If you know how things *should* be done and are not the type of person to sit back and see things go wrong, then go ahead and manage a tournament and show us all how its done. There's a disconnect between your attitude and rush to call different managers "screw-up's" and your complete lack of involvement in any aspect of managing/organizing this game :shrug:

l_mac
07-04-2011, 12:25 AM
There is a way of voicing complaints in a civilized way that doesn't belittle those who make this game run - you've never figured out how to do this. Your comments today crossed the line.

If you know how things *should* be done and are not the type of person to sit back and see things go wrong, then go ahead and manage a tournament and show us all how its done. There's a disconnect between your attitude and rush to call different managers "screw-up's" and your complete lack of involvement in any aspect of managing/organizing this game :shrug:
I don't think he's allowed to manage tournaments, due to past concerns.

I have no problem with people being upset about not having enough time to send picks. Two other players aired grievances on the thread and I'm not refusing to manage any tournaments they play in. It was far from ideal circumstances. Players had already started sending for Newport when I finally found the draw. There were still nearly 8 hours to send, which is not a lot but not completely unheard of. I had 3 rounds of qualifying to get through, and I did what I thought was for the best. Many players on US time managed to send. I had about 12/13 sets of missing picks for qualies, from about 46-48 players. Last year Newport had 9 sets of missing picks, but from 36-38 players.

The issue is with Tzar and how he behaves, and has always behaved, with regard to TT.

CoolyBri
07-04-2011, 08:26 PM
In Oberstaufen I did not receive picks from kingroger.
He said he sent them and his doubles partner posted a sceenshot proving that. I actually have no idea where they might've been gone - they are not in my inbox.

kingroger would've lost in singles anyway (and so did the LL who replaced him).
But he is still in doubles (obviously today was the first day of a 2-day-round R1). Can I accept the picks?

Boarder35m
07-04-2011, 08:38 PM
In Oberstaufen I did not receive picks from kingroger.
He said he sent them and his doubles partner posted a sceenshot proving that. I actually have no idea where they might've been gone - they are not in my inbox.

kingroger would've lost in singles anyway (and so did the LL who replaced him).
But he is still in doubles (obviously today was the first day of a 2-day-round R1). Can I accept the picks?

Yes, you can.
This has happened to me before, managing as well as playing :wavey:

kingroger
07-04-2011, 08:39 PM
Finally the issue has come to an end.... Thanks Alex and CoolyBri :)

Ilovetheblues_86
07-05-2011, 04:59 AM
I am just here to inform I will play now for Greece, in advance for next year. =]

Taz Warrior
07-05-2011, 02:44 PM
Following on from recent events, the TT Board has decided that Tzar’s behaviour towards TT managers this year has been unacceptable and in breach of both the TT Code of Conduct and the spirit of TT. As a result of this and per 3.13 of the TT Code of Conduct, the TT Board have decided to suspend Tzar from TT tournaments for a period of 4 weeks, effective immediately. Tzar will be able to resume playing TT for tournaments commencing 8th August 2011.

Further to this, we would also like to emphasise that TT managers are not immune from criticisms but those criticisms must be fully justified and be done in both an acceptable and polite manner.

ibreak4coffee
07-05-2011, 03:50 PM
Anyone to manage Los Angeles? I'll be in a time zone 12 hours away that week now and with work commitments can't guarantee any regularity in when diffs will be published.

Thread has to be opened Friday so I'd love to resolve this if possible sooner rather than later

superhoops
07-05-2011, 04:46 PM
Is the Orbetello CH thread going up this week or next?

Goldenoldie
07-05-2011, 10:55 PM
Is the Orbetello CH thread going up this week or next?

Sorry, I should have opened Orbetello before now> Thanks for the reminder

ibreak4coffee
07-07-2011, 04:55 PM
Nobody for Los Angeles????? :bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

ibreak4coffee
07-08-2011, 04:11 PM
No one for Los Angeles it seems :sad:

At a minimum then, can someone volunteer to be the assistant manager? I can do the entry lists, draws etc... but I would need someone to post diffs and OOP's for the qualifying and also post the OOP during the week. I would be able to post diffs during the regular tournament.

Labamba
07-10-2011, 08:46 AM
this week


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

25/07/2011 Los Angeles H 32/16/16/8 ibreak4coffee
25/07/2011 Gstaad CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie
25/07/2011 Umag CL 32/16/16/8 Boarder35m
25/07/2011 Astana CH H 32/16/16/8 Eddy DoubleD
25/07/2011 Tampere CH CL 32/16/16/8 abollo

Boarder35m
07-10-2011, 01:56 PM
Anybody for Umag? :wavey:

I can manage Umag, but only if noone else is available :p

Direnan
07-10-2011, 04:45 PM
Realy, lack of respect of Colt th magnific.

If signed up in doubles, with Vini, or other, is rule (in FAQ), he must accept, right?
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=185384&page=5

One word: Upset.

rvugt
07-10-2011, 11:20 PM
Realy, lack of respect of Colt th magnific.

If signed up in doubles, with Vini, or other, is rule (in FAQ), he must accept, right?
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=185384&page=5

One word: Upset.

I understand your reaction, but please calm down. This is just a misunderstanding, and not lack of respect as you call it. So, this happens more often, managers make mistakes, he didn't know the rules. But what can he do about it now, maybe you can be first LL, if you would have made the MD with your rankings. If not, I guess there is not much to do about it anymore!

Direnan
07-11-2011, 01:50 PM
I understand your reaction, but please calm down. This is just a misunderstanding, and not lack of respect as you call it. So, this happens more often, managers make mistakes, he didn't know the rules. But what can he do about it now, maybe you can be first LL, if you would have made the MD with your rankings. If not, I guess there is not much to do about it anymore!
The lack of respect was with respect to "play" it ... but he, in a gesture of nobility, apologized via PM.

Direnan
07-11-2011, 03:49 PM
I can send message for players who not yet sent their guesses?

Boarder35m
07-11-2011, 03:50 PM
I can send message for players who not yet sent their guesses?

No, that would be unfair, because not all players are from the same timezone. :p

Direnan
07-11-2011, 03:57 PM
No, that would be unfair, because not all players are from the same timezone. :p
Thanks =)

Direnan
07-11-2011, 05:10 PM
_A_ is #21 in singles ranking, can he play Challenger in this week?

abollo
07-11-2011, 05:16 PM
_A_ is #21 in singles ranking, can he play Challenger in this week?

Doubles only

EDIT: Sorry I am wrong. He's allowed to play, but has to be a LE

Challengers

Top 30 players in the singles entry rankings can't play them, except during the Davis Cup and Grand Slam second weeks and when there are no ATP tournaments played. They are allowed to play challengers in these weeks as late entries (LE), but they are not able to be seeded.

Direnan
07-11-2011, 05:30 PM
Doubles only

EDIT: Sorry I am wrong. He's allowed to play, but has to be a LE

Challengers

Top 30 players in the singles entry rankings can't play them, except during the Davis Cup and Grand Slam second weeks and when there are no ATP tournaments played. They are allowed to play challengers in these weeks as late entries (LE), but they are not able to be seeded.
But there tournaments ATP in this week, and no is second week of Grand Slam or week Davis...

abollo
07-11-2011, 05:37 PM
But there tournaments ATP in this week, and no is second week of Grand Slam or week Davis...

Alright maybe someone more experienced could help you. I probably understood it wrong.

Direnan
07-11-2011, 05:40 PM
Alright maybe someone more experienced could help you. I probably understood it wrong.
ok! thanks anyway

Goldenoldie
07-11-2011, 06:02 PM
But there tournaments ATP in this week, and no is second week of Grand Slam or week Davis...

Alright maybe someone more experienced could help you. I probably understood it wrong.

_A_ cannot play singles in a challenger except when there is no ATP tournament available.

Direnan
07-11-2011, 06:13 PM
_A_ cannot play singles in a challenger except when there is no ATP tournament available.
Thanks master.

Was what was really thinking.

Direnan
07-11-2011, 06:33 PM
_A_ cannot play singles in a challenger except when there is no ATP tournament available.
Other question, what rule for the alternates replace players missing?

Juakos, 96 in ranking, replace Yutco:
"1. Check if there are matches where both players didn't send picks. If so, the manager should place a LL there, so there is no win by Ranking."

For entry second alternate:
"2. After that, place all Lucky Losers in a way that the best ranked players (entry list rankings) go through to the next round, getting a W/O"

Ranking:
17. Rod3138 (BRA)................. 326
19. YEBRA (ESP)................... NR
23. Thales de Mileto (BRA)........ NR
ALT. Juakos17(CHI)................ 96

My question: The ranking of Juakos, goes? If yes, player replace is opponent of Thales de Mileto? Or replace opponent Juakos?

Labamba
07-11-2011, 10:52 PM
I can manage Umag, but only if noone else is available :p

thanks :cool:

Taz Warrior
07-11-2011, 11:04 PM
Other question, what rule for the alternates replace players missing?

Juakos, 96 in ranking, replace Yutco:
"1. Check if there are matches where both players didn't send picks. If so, the manager should place a LL there, so there is no win by Ranking."

For entry second alternate:
"2. After that, place all Lucky Losers in a way that the best ranked players (entry list rankings) go through to the next round, getting a W/O"

Ranking:
17. Rod3138 (BRA)................. 326
19. YEBRA (ESP)................... NR
23. Thales de Mileto (BRA)........ NR
ALT. Juakos17(CHI)................ 96

My question: The ranking of Juakos, goes? If yes, player replace is opponent of Thales de Mileto? Or replace opponent Juakos?
The opponent of Thales de Mileto is replaced

l_mac
07-11-2011, 11:31 PM
I can manage Umag, but only if noone else is available :p

I can do Hamburg for you the week before if you want, if you want to replace a "rest" week. Or I can do the prep work for Umag, entry lists/draws/qualifying weekend.

The Umag week (25 July) I am away.

Boarder35m
07-11-2011, 11:56 PM
I can do Hamburg for you the week before if you want, if you want to replace a "rest" week. Or I can do the prep work for Umag, entry lists/draws/qualifying weekend.

The Umag week (25 July) I am away.

Thank you for your offer :worship:

I don´t think I need a "rest", maybe I won´t ask for tournamnets in august though ;)

dinkulpus
07-12-2011, 05:37 AM
Thank you for your offer :worship:

I don´t think I need a "rest", maybe I won´t ask for tournamnets in august though ;)

Me too :(

Eddy DoubleD
07-12-2011, 09:53 AM
I have someone who sent picks for the first day of a two days First Round in singles. There were just 2 matches and they didn't play them. Now, for the second day, he didn't send picks. Should I replace him with the first lucky loser?:wavey:

Goldenoldie
07-12-2011, 06:42 PM
I have someone who sent picks for the first day of a two days First Round in singles. There were just 2 matches and they didn't play them. Now, for the second day, he didn't send picks. Should I replace him with the first lucky loser?:wavey:

Sorry I have only just seen this, but as you have already done the updates you clearly guessed the answer was "No". Sending picks on the first day of a 2-day round means the player keeps his place, and the rain delay makes no difference.

Direnan
07-12-2011, 07:52 PM
Tiebreakers:
vmbf (ARM)[5] vs. Ricardo Soler (BRA)
3) PTS:
Arguello 6-4 3-6 7-5 vs. ARGUELLO 64 36 64
Order Correct Sets:
3 sets – 7 points vs. 3 sets – 7 points
Correct scoreline:
0 ponits vs. 0 ponits
4) Tournament Countback
0 vs. 0
5) CB1 (countback from previous round), CB2 (countback from two rounds back), CB3, etc.
0 vs. 0
6) Steps 1-3 from the previous round(s)
0 vs. 0
7) Game Difference and Number of Games System
Vmbf: 6-4 3-6 7-5 = +1 game difference and 31 games played
Ricardo Soler: 6-4 3-6 6-4 = +1 game difference and 29 games played
result - Arguello 7-5 4-6 6-1 = +5 game difference and 29 games played.

Vmbf -> 4 game difference + 2 games played = 06
Ricardo Soler -> 4 game difference + 0 games played = 04

Ricardo Soler def. Vmbf

Is my first management. Am I correct?

Eddy DoubleD
07-12-2011, 08:11 PM
Sorry I have only just seen this, but as you have already done the updates you clearly guessed the answer was "No". Sending picks on the first day of a 2-day round means the player keeps his place, and the rain delay makes no difference.

That's what I thought too. But I wanted to be sure. Thank you:worship:

Boarder35m
07-12-2011, 08:32 PM
Tiebreakers:
vmbf (ARM)[5] vs. Ricardo Soler (BRA)
3) PTS:
Arguello 6-4 3-6 7-5 vs. ARGUELLO 64 36 64
Order Correct Sets:
3 sets – 7 points vs. 3 sets – 7 points
Correct scoreline:
0 ponits vs. 0 ponits
4) Tournament Countback
0 vs. 0
5) CB1 (countback from previous round), CB2 (countback from two rounds back), CB3, etc.
0 vs. 0
6) Steps 1-3 from the previous round(s)
0 vs. 0
7) Game Difference and Number of Games System
Vmbf: 6-4 3-6 7-5 = +1 game difference and 31 games played
Ricardo Soler: 6-4 3-6 6-4 = +1 game difference and 29 games played
result - Arguello 7-5 4-6 6-1 = +5 game difference and 29 games played.

Vmbf -> 4 game difference + 2 games played = 06
Ricardo Soler -> 4 game difference + 0 games played = 04

Ricardo Soler def. Vmbf

Is my first management. Am I correct?

I am very sorry but you are wrong. :hug:
vmbf won for giving the correct soreline 7-5.
In PTS the order of sets is only important when it comes to the winner. When it comes to the scoreline 6-3 6-4 is the same as 6-4 6-3. :wavey:

keqtqiadv
07-12-2011, 08:38 PM
Tiebreakers:
vmbf (ARM)[5] vs. Ricardo Soler (BRA)
3) PTS:
Arguello 6-4 3-6 7-5 vs. ARGUELLO 64 36 64
Order Correct Sets:
3 sets – 7 points vs. 3 sets – 7 points
Correct scoreline:
0 ponits vs. 0 ponits
4) Tournament Countback
0 vs. 0
5) CB1 (countback from previous round), CB2 (countback from two rounds back), CB3, etc.
0 vs. 0
6) Steps 1-3 from the previous round(s)
0 vs. 0
7) Game Difference and Number of Games System
Vmbf: 6-4 3-6 7-5 = +1 game difference and 31 games played
Ricardo Soler: 6-4 3-6 6-4 = +1 game difference and 29 games played
result - Arguello 7-5 4-6 6-1 = +5 game difference and 29 games played.

Vmbf -> 4 game difference + 2 games played = 06
Ricardo Soler -> 4 game difference + 0 games played = 04

Ricardo Soler def. VmbfIs my first management. Am I correct?
This is not correct. vmbf won on PTS1 (10:7) - he predicted Arguello to win a set 75.

It's a first round, so if PTS1 doesn't decide the winner, you must check PTS2. If PTS2 doesn't decide, then PTSs 3, 4, 5, 6... If there's still no winner, then you go to game difference.

edit: too late :p

Direnan
07-12-2011, 08:48 PM
I am very sorry but you are wrong. :hug:
vmbf won for giving the correct soreline 7-5.
In PTS the order of sets is only important when it comes to the winner. When it comes to the scoreline 6-3 6-4 is the same as 6-4 6-3. :wavey:

This is not correct. vmbf won on PTS1 (10:7) - he predicted Arguello to win a set 75.

It's a first round, so if PTS1 doesn't decide the winner, you must check PTS2. If PTS2 doesn't decide, then PTSs 3, 4, 5, 6... If there's still no winner, then you go to game difference.

edit: too late :p

There are no differences in the other SR's.

Thank.

Labamba
07-12-2011, 09:37 PM
The road to US Open is here! :wavey:

The usual things:

- max 3 tourneys per manager
- 2 days to apply
- give atleast one back-up choice
- new managers should start with challengers

Take your pick! :cool:

August


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

01/08/2011 Washington H 64/32/32/16 ?
01/08/2011 Kitzbühel CL 32/16/16/8 ?
01/08/2011 Segovia CH H 32/16/16/8 ?
01/08/2011 Vancouver CH H 32/16/16/8 ?

08/08/2011 Montreal H 64/32/32/16 ?
08/08/2011 San Marino CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?
08/08/2011 Binghamton CH H 32/16/16/8 ?
08/08/2011 Brasilia CH H 32/16/16/8 ?

15/08/2011 Cincinnati H 64/32/32/16 ?
15/08/2011 Cordenons CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?
15/08/2011 San Sebastian CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?
15/08/2011 Salvador CH H 32/16/16/8 ?

22/08/2011 Winston-Salem H 64/32/32/16 ?
22/08/2011 Manerbio CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?
22/08/2011 Astana 2 CH H 32/16/16/8 ?
22/08/2011 Gramado CH H 32/16/16/8 ?

29/08/2011 US Open S H 128/128 ?
29/08/2011 US Open D H 64/64 ?
29/08/2011 Como CH CL 32/16/16/8 ?

Direnan
07-12-2011, 09:43 PM
I keep Brasilia, Gramado or Salvador?

Gramado would be the best ^^

Goldenoldie
07-12-2011, 10:23 PM
Segovia CH, Manerbio CH, Como CH
Backup Astana 2 CH

StoGas
07-13-2011, 09:13 AM
In for San Marino Challenger

ibreak4coffee
07-13-2011, 04:13 PM
I'll manage Cincinnati as long as I can also play it :wavey:

Eddy DoubleD
07-13-2011, 07:22 PM
San Sebastian CH, Astana 2 CH
BU: Como CH

dinkulpus
07-13-2011, 07:44 PM
Someone with me for US Open ?

kingroger
07-14-2011, 10:06 AM
Hey there, I am actually trying to understand how to use Evita's spreadsheet.... I've worked my way through making the OOP and the draw, but I have no idea how and where to put in diffs...
I know, it's a stupid question for pros like you but I'd like to learn how to do it :)

many thanks, kingroger

edit: I've just found the guide.... trying to do it myself first :)

Eddy DoubleD
07-14-2011, 10:33 AM
Should I accept late pciks in doubles? Or there are no late picks??

@kingroger: Differences are below the draw, in "singles" sheet.

Boarder35m
07-14-2011, 01:05 PM
Should I accept late pciks in doubles? Or there are no late picks??

@kingroger: Differences are below the draw, in "singles" sheet.

There are no late picks at all in TT :awww:

kingroger
07-14-2011, 01:46 PM
I'd like to give it a try.... Can I manage Segovia as Backup together with Goldenoldie?
thanks :wavey:

Goldenoldie
07-14-2011, 05:11 PM
I'd like to give it a try.... Can I manage Segovia as Backup together with Goldenoldie?
thanks :wavey:

Ville, I have sent kingroger a PM suggesting that he should be manager and I will help him as assistant, rather than the other way around. That way I can take Kitzbuhel instead that week. Hope that's acceptable.

kingroger
07-14-2011, 05:19 PM
Sorry guys I misunderstood the meaning of Backup and Assistant :)

So I'd like to take Segovia with Goldenoldie as Assistant and good help.

Belludal
07-15-2011, 08:39 PM
I would like to know if was possible that the TT Board make a choice of Hamburg be with Draw of 32 Players Singles if the TT Board wants or this isn't impossible because of the FAQ?

dinkulpus
07-15-2011, 08:42 PM
Hamburg will be 64 player draw :wavey:

Belludal
07-15-2011, 08:48 PM
Hamburg will be 64 player draw :wavey:

Yes.

I only want to know if the TT Board could make Hamburg with 32 player draw or the FAQ made this impossible.

keqtqiadv
07-15-2011, 09:51 PM
Yes.

I only want to know if the TT Board could make Hamburg with 32 player draw or the FAQ made this impossible.
No :p ATP 48-player draw = TT 64-player draw.

Labamba
07-18-2011, 08:15 AM
more managers needed for August :awww:

Colt th magnific
07-18-2011, 08:45 AM
Cordenons CH for me if possible, thanks.

dinkulpus
07-18-2011, 12:15 PM
I can take US Open with someone :wavey:

Direnan
07-18-2011, 01:55 PM
I can manage in 2 tournaments in Brazil.

Can be:
08/08/2011 Brasilia CH
and
22/08/2011 Gramado CH

Boarder35m
07-18-2011, 02:21 PM
I can take US Open with someone :wavey:

With me again? :wavey:

And I can also take Montreal :)

dinkulpus
07-18-2011, 02:44 PM
With me again? :wavey:

And I can also take Montreal :)

Of course :worship:
This time you have opportunity to choose, singles or doubles :wavey:
Ville, I will take also Winston-Salem (maybe I won't be here for first deadline, but everything will be ok).
I'm just fell in love with TT managing :D

abollo
07-18-2011, 02:49 PM
Could we know what's already taken?

dinkulpus
07-18-2011, 02:51 PM
Could we know what's already taken?


Washinghton and Vancouver CH for sure are free :wavey:

Labamba
07-18-2011, 09:27 PM
Of course :worship:
This time you have opportunity to choose, singles or doubles :wavey:
Ville, I will take also Winston-Salem (maybe I won't be here for first deadline, but everything will be ok).
I'm just fell in love with TT managing :D

thanks :yeah:

I'll update the calendar now...

Labamba
07-18-2011, 09:33 PM
August


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

01/08/2011 Washington H 64/32/32/16 l_mac
01/08/2011 Kitzbühel CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie
01/08/2011 Segovia CH H 32/16/16/8 kingroger
01/08/2011 Vancouver CH H 32/16/16/8 hallso

08/08/2011 Montreal H 64/32/32/16 Boarder35m
08/08/2011 San Marino CH CL 32/16/16/8 StoGas
08/08/2011 Binghamton CH H 32/16/16/8 abollo
08/08/2011 Brasilia CH H 32/16/16/8 Direnan

15/08/2011 Cincinnati H 64/32/32/16 ibreak4coffee
15/08/2011 Cordenons CH CL 32/16/16/8 Colt th magnific
15/08/2011 San Sebastian CH CL 32/16/16/8 Eddy DoubleD
15/08/2011 Salvador CH H 32/16/16/8 abollo

22/08/2011 Winston-Salem H 64/32/32/16 mmarto193
22/08/2011 Manerbio CH CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie
22/08/2011 Astana 2 CH H 32/16/16/8 Eddy DoubleD
22/08/2011 Gramado CH H 32/16/16/8 Direnan

29/08/2011 US Open S H 128/128 mmarto193
29/08/2011 US Open D H 64/64 Boarder35m
29/08/2011 Como CH CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie

Labamba
07-18-2011, 09:35 PM
this week


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

01/08/2011 Washington H 64/32/32/16 l_mac
01/08/2011 Kitzbühel CL 32/16/16/8 Goldenoldie
01/08/2011 Segovia CH H 32/16/16/8 kingroger
01/08/2011 Vancouver CH H 32/16/16/8 hallso

Labamba
07-20-2011, 12:20 AM
^Anyone? :awww:

l_mac
07-20-2011, 12:46 AM
I'll take Washington.

I'll need some help for the Saturday qualifying, but other than that I should be okay.

Labamba
07-20-2011, 04:24 PM
I'll take Washington.

I'll need some help for the Saturday qualifying, but other than that I should be okay.

:yeah: :yeah:

l_mac
07-20-2011, 07:16 PM
:yeah: :yeah:

Should it be opened now?

ibreak4coffee
07-20-2011, 07:26 PM
Should it be opened now?

The first deadline for that week is this Sunday so I would say yes!

kingroger
07-20-2011, 07:27 PM
Should it be opened now?

Yes, all week 31 threads have been open for a couple of days now :)

kingroger
07-20-2011, 07:33 PM
Labamba, if you want I can open a thread for Vancouver and set it up so that players can commit for the tournament... Then we could look for a manager who then takes everything over. If nobody is available then, Vancouver TT can be cancelled (although I believe someone will be found)

hallso
07-20-2011, 07:42 PM
Labamba, if you want I can open a thread for Vancouver and set it up so that players can commit for the tournament... Then we could look for a manager who then takes everything over. If nobody is available then, Vancouver TT can be cancelled (although I believe someone will be found)

will you be able to manage it for the final 3 days (TT semis & final)?
I could open the thread and manage tournament until thursday

kingroger
07-20-2011, 07:58 PM
will you be able to manage it for the final 3 days (TT semis & final)?
I could open the thread and manage tournament until thursday

I have to think about it... I'm already managing Segovia as my maiden tournament and also 9 hours of time difference is huge... And to be honest, I don't want to get up during the night to post results and OOP :angel:
I could post diffs but that's it... So there has to be another one...

hallso
07-20-2011, 08:19 PM
I would post OOP for Friday
so it leaves just diffs for SF & F and oop for final (which is not so important because everybody knows who is playing who) and the last one - results of last 2 rounds (just 6 matches including singles and doubles!) and for sure you can wait with them to the late CET morning :)
not so much! :p

kingroger
07-20-2011, 08:25 PM
alright! then go ahead and open the thread... I'll do my best... Just that I know: You will not be available the whole weekend..?!

hallso
07-20-2011, 08:38 PM
deal :)
if nothing changes I will be out from Friday (around 5pm CET) till late Sunday, so it looks like whole weekend ;)

Taz Warrior
07-20-2011, 08:40 PM
^thanks guys :)

hallso
07-20-2011, 08:44 PM
in this situation, can I extend deadline for another 24h?

kingroger
07-20-2011, 09:23 PM
deal :)
if nothing changes I will be out from Friday (around 5pm CET) till late Sunday, so it looks like whole weekend ;)

So u could actually do Sunday TT then as Vancouver final probably starts late - such as 9pm CET...
But I see it would be too stressful for u, so I'll do it as good as I can

edit: hallso, discuss the deadline later, open the thread as quick as possible... I can do it aswell if you cant do it now...

Labamba
07-20-2011, 11:27 PM
thanks guys :)

l_mac
07-21-2011, 12:13 AM
I accept picks and post diffs for the last 3 days of Vancouver, if it makes it easier.

kingroger
07-21-2011, 09:25 AM
hallso and I have actually already made that deal considering the last 3 days of management... If you want you can post results and OOP while I do the diffs because I will not bother to get up during night to post OOP and stuff :)

Taz Warrior
07-21-2011, 09:47 AM
in this situation, can I extend deadline for another 24h?

I think the first deadline should stay the same as it needs to be in line with all the other tournaments that week

abollo
07-21-2011, 11:19 AM
I could manage Binghamton and Salvador

Labamba
07-21-2011, 08:29 PM
I could manage Binghamton and Salvador

thanks :cool:

Thales de Mileto
07-21-2011, 08:30 PM
I could manage Binghamton and Salvador

cool!!!!!!!!!!

my hause Salvador-Bahia:cool:

hallso
07-22-2011, 07:10 AM
it seems Brasilia, Salvador and Gramado (weeks 32-34) are cancelled link (http://www.atpworldtour.com/~/media/E26CED3D26304BFCAA0957C255ABB4AF.ashx) :scratch:

dinkulpus
07-22-2011, 09:26 AM
What about to add Samarkand and Karshi :angel:

Labamba
07-22-2011, 10:21 AM
it seems Brasilia, Salvador and Gramado (weeks 32-34) are cancelled link (http://www.atpworldtour.com/~/media/E26CED3D26304BFCAA0957C255ABB4AF.ashx) :scratch:

thanks for the news

What about to add Samarkand and Karshi :angel:

yes of course

abollo
07-22-2011, 12:30 PM
I think that will be hard, but I'll do my best

abollo
07-22-2011, 09:30 PM
Qualy won't be neededd in Tampere. Only 30 players committed to singles. And 1 player committed after the deadline. Should this player be allowed to play or should she be an ALT if a player doesn't send?

Boarder35m
07-22-2011, 09:39 PM
Qualy won't be neededd in Tampere. Only 30 players committed to singles. And 1 player committed after the deadline. Should this player be allowed to play or should she be an ALT if a player doesn't send?

If you didn´t post anything in the thread already, you can extend the deadline until there are 32 players in singles. :wavey:

dinkulpus
07-23-2011, 10:36 AM
I think it is time to open topics for tournament which start on 8.8.2011 :wavey:

Labamba
07-23-2011, 05:03 PM
this week :cool:


Date Tournament Surface Draw(S/QS/D/QD) Manager

08/08/2011 Montreal H 64/32/32/16 Boarder35m
08/08/2011 San Marino CH CL 32/16/16/8 StoGas
08/08/2011 Binghamton CH H 32/16/16/8 abollo
08/08/2011 Samarkand CH H 32/16/16/8 Direnan

l_mac
07-24-2011, 12:42 PM
Disaster!

I won't have any net access until late Saturday night. I thought I'd be able to use my phone to update the Washington thread, but it had an accident last night and is totally ruined.

Is there anyone who can update the entry lists and do the Qualifying draws and Saturday qualies for me?

I'm really sorry about this, I thought the only day I would need help was Saturday qualies because I'm travelling back that day.

Maybe I'll PM Evita and see if she can do it.

superhoops
07-24-2011, 03:24 PM
How does it work for the US Open qualies? Can you not commit to a challenger the week of qualies and play qualies or are they seen as being on different weeks so you are entitled to play both?
And then can you commit to a challenger the first week of the US open should you not be successful in qualies?

kingroger
07-24-2011, 03:30 PM
How does it work for the US Open qualies? Can you not commit to a challenger the week of qualies and play qualies or are they seen as being on different weeks so you are entitled to play both?
And then can you commit to a challenger the first week of the US open should you not be successful in qualies?

You can play Winston-Salem and US Open qualy for example...
If you fail to qualify you can play a CH in the first week of the USO. Therefore you have to commit before the first deadline. If you make the USO qualies the manager of the CH will take you out of his tournament.

abollo
07-24-2011, 03:48 PM
How does it work for the US Open qualies? Can you not commit to a challenger the week of qualies and play qualies or are they seen as being on different weeks so you are entitled to play both?
And then can you commit to a challenger the first week of the US open should you not be successful in qualies?

As usual during Grand Slams. You could play a challenger during the qualifying and could also commit to the challenger during the first week in case you don't make it to the main draw in singles and doubles. You could also commit to the challenger in the second week of USO in case you don't make it to the second week of the Slam in singles and doubles.

From the FAQ thread

Is a player allowed to play qualifying in one tournament and the main draw of another at the same time?

Yes, if the tournaments are played in different weeks. For example, if a player makes Houston's final (week of April 6) and didn't enter Monte Carlo (week of April 13) directly, he is allowed to play qualifying there.

Exception: Challengers during all four Grand Slams' first weeks. Players who lose in any Grand Slams' qualifying are allowed to play these challengers.

dinkulpus
07-24-2011, 04:31 PM
Disaster!

I won't have any net access until late Saturday night. I thought I'd be able to use my phone to update the Washington thread, but it had an accident last night and is totally ruined.

Is there anyone who can update the entry lists and do the Qualifying draws and Saturday qualies for me?

I'm really sorry about this, I thought the only day I would need help was Saturday qualies because I'm travelling back that day.

Maybe I'll PM Evita and see if she can do it.

I'll update entry list today, but can help for qualies, because I'm leaving on Friday 99% sure :confused: