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Fast day forces Israel-Finland Davis Cup tie extension

nitsansh
09-20-2004, 07:51 PM
TEL AVIV, Sept 20 (Reuters) - Israel's Davis Cup tie with Finland this week will be held over four days due to the Yom Kippur fast day on Saturday, local tennis officials said on Monday.

The Euro/African zone group one relegation tie in Tel Aviv will start a day earlier than usual on Thursday with the two opening singles matches, Israel Tennis Association chairman Ian Froman told a news conference.

Froman said that the schedule had been set well in advance and the Finnish team had given their approval.

Yom Kippur, also known as the Day of Atonement, the holiest day in the Jewish calendar, is traditionally a time when the Jewish State comes to a standstill for 24 hours. This year it is between sundown on Friday and sundown on Saturday.

The schedule means that the second day's doubles rubber will be held early on Friday, beginning at 10 a.m., and the two reverse singles will be played on Sunday.

Socket
09-20-2004, 08:22 PM
Great that the Finnish team was willing to accommodate the Israeli team. I can remember, back some 10 years or so, when the same situation arose, and a member of the opposing team said that the Israeli team should be forced to forfeit if they couldn't/wouldn't play on a religious holiday. Cooler heads eventually prevailed, but the comment caused some friction during the tie, as you can imagine.

nitsansh
09-23-2004, 02:17 AM
Great that the Finnish team was willing to accommodate the Israeli team. I can remember, back some 10 years or so, when the same situation arose, and a member of the opposing team said that the Israeli team should be forced to forfeit if they couldn't/wouldn't play on a religious holiday. Cooler heads eventually prevailed, but the comment caused some friction during the tie, as you can imagine.

If I recall correctly... the last time Israel played on the week of Yom Kipur was against Switzerland in a qualifying round for the world group... I think it was 1993, so you probably refer to that tie... it was held then from Wednesday to Friday, and I think the reverse singles started as early as 8AM... Mansdorf and Bloom represented Israel against Rosset and Hlasek... Switzerland led 2:1 after the doubles, Mansdorf beat Rosset in 5 sets to make it 2:2, and Bloom won the decider against Hlasek in straight sets... those were the days... the year after that was the last time we played in WG, and it was also the last year of Mansdorf's carreer...

Tommorrow, the first match at 2PM will feature Harel Levi and Tuomas Ketola, followed by Noam Okun vs Jarko Nieminen.

BTW... as of yesterday, the umpire has not arrived to Israel because a general strike has cancelled his flight... the strike is over, but I'm not sure if he'll come after all... if not, the tie will be officiated by Israeli umpires...

Other sports were also hit by the strike... a match in UEFA cup was cancelled and the tie is reduced to a single match at the opponent's home (Herenveen in Netherland) instead of home-and-away matches. The women basketball match between Israel and Germany will be held at the unusual time of 11AM tommorrow.

Socket
09-23-2004, 03:03 AM
Yes, I checked on the DC site, and it was the 1993 tie that I was remembering. And it was Hlasek would made the comment that the team captain later apologized for.

I saw Mansdorf play several times during his career, and he was great fun to watch.

Kristen
09-23-2004, 06:17 AM
R1 - H.LEVY (ISR) vs T.KETOLA (FIN)
R2 - N.OKUN (ISR) vs J.NIEMINEN (FIN)
R3 - J.ERLICH / A.RAM (ISR) vs L.KETOLA / J.PAUKKU (FIN)
R4 - H.LEVY (ISR) vs J.NIEMINEN (FIN)
R5 - N.OKUN (ISR) vs T.KETOLA (FIN)

Kristen
09-23-2004, 07:04 AM
With a spot in the Davis Cup s Europe/Africa Zone 1 on the line, Harel Levy will take on Finland's Tuomas Ketola Thursday at 2 p.m. at the tennis center in Ramat Hasharon, in the first match of the best-of-five tie.

Israel's players Noam Okun (who is ranked No. 142 in the world), Harel Levy (147), Andy Ram (341), and Yoni Erlich (690) were in an upbeat mood yesterday at the draw for the matches, joking with Israel Tennis Association chairman Dr. Ian Froman that they may use him in one the final two matches on Sunday. Though he clearly wouldn't play, the 67-year-old Froman, who played five doubles matches for Israel in the late 1960s, would be thrilled if it turned out that even one of Sunday's matches proved to be only for protocol.

The likelihood, however, is that the fifth match between Okun and Ketola (217) could end up being the decider.

At the draw, overseen by British referee Jeremy Shales, it was decided that Levy will open Thursday against Ketola followed by a match between Okun and Finnish No. 1 Jarkko Nieminen (69). The doubles match, scheduled to begin at 10 a.m. Friday, calls for Israel's star duo, Ram and Erlich, ranked 13th in the world in the ATP's yearly team race, to face Juho Paukko (536), and Lassi Ketola (653).

But Shales pointed out that Finland captain Henrik Johansen can decide to change his doubles pairings up to one hour before the match. The final day will see Levy open against Nieminen followed by Okun and Ketola.

The unusual scheduling beginning on Thursday instead of Friday, the early morning (10 a.m.) start to the doubles, and the day off on Saturday was arranged to accommodate the start of Yom Kippur at sunset on Friday evening.

The meeting between Levy and Ketola will be their fourth. Ironically, the two times they played in Israel at the 1997 Eilat Challenger and two years later at the Jerusalem Challenger Ketola came out on top. In their most recent meeting, however, in the qualifying round at last year's Wimbledon, Levy won 6-1, 6-4. The match between Nieminen and Okun will be their first.

Levy is Israel's third most-winningest Davis Cup singles player with a 15-5 record, trailing only Shlomo Glickstein (31-13) and Amos Mansdorf (18-17). Okun has won six and lost eight singles matches in Davis Cup play.

Davis Cup matches, like Grand Slams, are played in the best-of-five sets format, which means that the hot conditions and the players' stamina could be more of a factor than usual. For Israel, a good spectator turnout could play a part in lifting the player's spirits during the long matches.

As part of the ITA's effort to bring fans to the crucial series, there will be no admission fee for any of the matches. Additionally, the ITA will raffle off a pair of tickets for admission to two days at next year's Wimbledon tournament between Thursday's two matches.

Yoav
09-23-2004, 07:46 AM
Kadima Israel :) :bounce:

JMG
09-23-2004, 12:58 PM
come on Finland!!! Ketola - Levy 6-4

Kristen
09-23-2004, 01:09 PM
:eek: Thanks for the update JMG! Where are you seeing scores? Is it on the Davis Cup site or something? :wavey:

JMG
09-23-2004, 01:21 PM
http://www.yle.fi/cgi-bin/tekstitv/ttv.cgi/205/txt

it's the text of a finnish tv station. better than nothing. :D

and that's the sports page in general
http://www.yle.fi/cgi-bin/tekstitv/ttv.cgi/201/txt

Kristen
09-23-2004, 01:39 PM
:eek: Thanks!!
Kom igen Tuomas! Just this set... and just one more... lol then Jarkko can probably take care of things.

JMG
09-23-2004, 01:46 PM
he got it :devil: 6-4 6-4 0-0

Kristen
09-23-2004, 01:57 PM
Tuomas is really impressing me right now :)
I feel a little bad for Israel though. If it was any nation other than Finland (or Austria;)) I'd probably be wanting them to win :rolleyes: kom igen Ketola!

JMG
09-23-2004, 02:11 PM
Yes, now it's bad for Israel that Finland lost in Luxembourg. I hope for Israel that they will come back in 2006 if they loose. ;)
Tuomas 6-4 6-4 4-1

Kristen
09-23-2004, 02:11 PM
4-1 :tape: close the match Tuomas :D :D :woohoo:

Kristen
09-23-2004, 02:17 PM
come on Tuomas... I need to get to bed ;)

Kristen
09-23-2004, 02:25 PM
excellent! 6-4, 6-4 , 6-3 is nice :yeah: Now hopefully jarkko will do the same :D
Goodnight JMG! (and any other voyeuristic people, not participating in conversation :tape: )

JMG
09-23-2004, 02:30 PM
thank you! Too bad to live in Australia sometimes. But the doubles match is at a better time for you I guess.

oren987
09-23-2004, 04:56 PM
anyone need live scores from me?

first set:
Noam Okun vs Jarko Nieminen 6-4 :D

oren987
09-23-2004, 05:00 PM
Noam Okun vs Jarko Nieminen 6-4 0-2

oren987
09-23-2004, 05:03 PM
Noam Okun vs Jarko Nieminen 6-4 4-4

oren987
09-23-2004, 05:11 PM
Noam Okun vs Jarko Nieminen 6-4 5-5

oren987
09-23-2004, 05:11 PM
Noam Okun vs Jarko Nieminen 6-4 7-5 :D :D

Now start the 3rd set

JMG
09-23-2004, 05:26 PM
Jarkko leads 4-6 5-7 4-3 after beeing 2-3 down, so hopefully it's a break now?!? come on Jarkko, fight!!!

Is it on TV in Israel?

JMG
09-23-2004, 05:34 PM
damn!!!! Easy win for Okun!


Jarkko had a medical timeout in the 2nd set because of dizziness. :mad:

Yoav
09-23-2004, 10:21 PM
i saw both matches.
short reports:
Levy-Ketola:
Harel was awful and Ketola kept making easy winners thanks to a great FH. Thomas movement on court was awful and everytime that Harel played a drop shot he won it easily, but steal, Harel didn't attack enough, served very badly (weak services in low %) and Thomas was by far the better player. The match itself was a bit disappointing, not a great display of tennis. Harel was very annoyed with himself and even got a warning for his behaviour :o
Okun-Nieminen:
Noam played like a top 50 player, in a high quality match, with some great rallies. Noam kept playing on Jarkko's BH (shame that Harel didn't do it to Ketola, who has an awful BH), was aggresiva and served well. Both players served well and there wasn't too many breaks of serves thourghout the match. Most of the points being won after a long/meduim base-line winners, usually by the player who was more aggresive.
there is no doubt that Okun is much better than Ketola and Nieminen much better than Levy, so i think that tie will be decided in the doubles match.

nitsansh
09-24-2004, 12:34 AM
I think it will be Andy Ram against Nieminen on Sunday. The Israeli captain thought of putting him in the singles as Harel's poor form lately was obvious... but with the doubles match early in the morning and the possibility that Andy could be drawn to play the 2nd singles, he decided against it. On Sunday after 48 hours rest there should be no problem of tiredness for Andy, and Harel's form is really bad...

Kristen
09-24-2004, 01:52 AM
:sad: Noam Okun...you are so annoying! lol, first he beat bjorn rehnquist in the Aus Open quallies, and now this :rolleyes: A good player capable of a comeback when he's down. Jarkko...get it together, drink plenty of fluids!

I dont think Finland have a chance in hell of winning the doubles. LOL I know, its pessimistic, but Erlich/Ram are quite good :banghead:

Yoav
09-24-2004, 08:34 AM
Doubles match has just started.
Erlich/Ram vs. Ketola/Ketola.
go Israel :D :bounce:

Yoav
09-24-2004, 09:27 AM
Israel 6:1 1:1 :D

JMG
09-24-2004, 09:29 AM
1-6 1-4 :rolleyes:

i hope tuomas can defeat that idiot on sunday :mad:

Yoav
09-24-2004, 09:34 AM
Israel 6:1 6:1 :D :D

Yoav
09-24-2004, 09:36 AM
1-6 1-4 :rolleyes:

i hope tuomas can defeat that idiot on sunday :mad:
the only idiot in this tie is the Finnish coach (maybe Thomas too...).

oren987
09-24-2004, 09:36 AM
Go Andy and Yoni :worship:

Kristen
09-25-2004, 01:02 AM
Cant wait to see more comments from the doubles team. I hope the Finns didn't dare to have an injury time out :eek: ;)

nitsansh
09-25-2004, 01:18 AM
Erlich & Ram rout Ketolas 6-1 6-1 6-1 and give Israel a 2-1 lead.

No way we can lose this tie now!!!

I checked the record... in its 56 years history in DC Israel lost only once when leading after 3 rubbers... it was this week 20 years ago in USSR...

nitsansh
09-26-2004, 12:03 AM
As I expected, Andy Ram will replace Harel Levy in the reverse singles.

JMG
09-26-2004, 01:38 PM
J.Nieminen - A.Ram 6-1 6-1 *1-2

Neely
09-26-2004, 02:00 PM
so currently it's 2-1 for Israel overall in the tie?

Nieminen is about to win for Finland, so it will come down to the last rubber I guess

JMG
09-26-2004, 02:10 PM
Jarkko - Ram 6-1 6-1 4-6 0-0*

probably Jarkko has more problems with his flu than with Ram, I hope he can win, but Ketola vs Okun should be too difficult for Tuomas. :sad:

JMG
09-26-2004, 02:39 PM
let's go Tuomas! :angel:

Levy - T.Ketola 4-6 4-6 3-6
Okun - Nieminen 6-4 7-5 6-4
Ehrlich/Ram - T.Ketola/L.Ketola 6-1 6-1 6-1
Ram - Nieminen 1-6 1-6 6-4 2-6
Okun - T.Ketola

oren987
09-26-2004, 03:53 PM
First set:

Okun vs. Ketola 2-2

oren987
09-26-2004, 03:55 PM
Okun vs. Ketola 6-2 :)

oren987
09-26-2004, 04:06 PM
Okun vs. Ketola 6-2 1-1

oren987
09-26-2004, 04:26 PM
Okun vs. Ketola 6-2 6-2 :) :) one more set

Yoav
09-26-2004, 05:45 PM
Okun won :)
Israel won :D :worship: :woohoo:

Kristen
09-27-2004, 02:03 AM
I'm just really happy that Jarkko won a match :)
At least they put in a good effort :woohoo:
Congrats to Israel!!