indoor carpet slam/ aus. open time

09-15-2002, 05:49 AM
Does anyone else think that there should be an indoor carpet slam? I know that the masters final was on carpet for years, but it just isn't the same as a slam. It just seems right that the four slams represent each of the four surfaces of tennis. Of course, rebound ace is more of a mutant surface than a hardcourt, but since there seems to be fairly distinctive hardcourt, grass, carpet and clay "seasons", I think they should all be represented in the slams, especially now that the masters final rotates.

Also, does anyone know why the Aus. Open was moved? I think it makes a lot more sense to have it moved to the end of the year like it used to be. Even moving it back to a month or two later would be better, though the climate may be too harsh then. I think the French should be moved a couple months earlier, then have a real grass season finally, Wimbledon could be more in the beginning of June and the U.S. Open could be moved up a little bit and then have the Aus. Open at the end. Of course, this would be a little bit of a headache for the other tournaments. But most of the tournaments don't have to be cancelled, just be held at a different time (though I think some should be cancelled even with the way things are).

09-15-2002, 06:11 AM
The Australian Open was moved to January because when it was in December, a lot of players didn't bother comming (it was over their Christmas break)...and January also means that it's during school/university holidays, so more of us can watch it :)

09-15-2002, 10:59 AM
It is not very good if the french open are earlier on the year, because of the weather conditions. In the spring we have a lot of windy, cloudy and rainy weather here in Europe

J. Corwin
09-16-2002, 06:21 AM
Yea I agree, I just don't get why there is a slam for every surface but two for hard and none for carpet?

09-16-2002, 09:06 AM
Slams are part of history and started of in the 19th Century/early20th

Indoor events only came about in the 1970's

King Aaron
09-16-2002, 09:20 AM
okay but can they maybe change the OZ Open to indoors? They already have a roof

09-16-2002, 09:32 AM
And if they play the French two months earlier, then we would have two indoor Grand Slams ;).
I live 100 kms away from Paris and in April the weather is usually very cold and windy... (and rainy :mad: )

09-16-2002, 03:53 PM
pf @ indoors

Wimbledon should be changed to clay :angel:

09-16-2002, 03:54 PM
i agree then Hewitt will never win again :D
nor will /Pete/Dickhead/Andre :D

09-16-2002, 03:59 PM
Lleyton will win the French next year, no worries my hard boiled friend ;)

09-16-2002, 04:11 PM
in your dreams :p

there are lots of Peelers on clay :D

09-16-2002, 04:27 PM
No way, GoLleyt.

Guga, Ferrero, and all of the peelers would have to keel over and die before Hewitt wins RG in '03.

09-16-2002, 10:13 PM
Ferrero I will allow to beat him in the finals ;)

no one else will I tolerate such disrespect from.

Magnus's #1 Fan
09-17-2002, 12:45 AM
Indoors? Too expenise for building!!

m!ssundaztooD, we have only two roof courts... it can fix in two weeks for all matches? No :rolleyes:

Ace Tracker
09-17-2002, 02:57 AM
December/January are usually the hottest months in the Southern hemisphere...I am sure the weather is milder in Melbourne after March...and if not, we can always move the Oz to Tahiti or Palau...:) ;)

09-17-2002, 08:13 AM
Tahiti and its tropical rainstorms :rolleyes:

King Aaron
09-17-2002, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Magnus's #1 Fan
Indoors? Too expenise for building!!

m!ssundaztooD, we have only two roof courts... it can fix in two weeks for all matches? No :rolleyes:

I know! I'm just thinking that Australia might be the best grand slam to have it indoors. not weather wise but it's the one that can be changed.

09-17-2002, 08:48 AM
Indoors maybe, but the surface won't change

09-17-2002, 08:53 AM
surface won't but the whole atmosphere will be diff
Balls and the court will play ALOT faster

no wind/sun as well and everything changes.

King Aaron
09-17-2002, 08:57 AM
so is it actually a workable idea?

09-17-2002, 09:39 AM
i dont think many people would agree to change the AO to being indoors...yeah its hot with it being outside, but imagine if it was indoors it would be BOILING unless theres like air con the whole time which woudl be extremely expensive and its part of the whole aus open atmosphere with u know it being really hot and summery and crap

as for moving the AO to march...that would be hard considering we dont have holidays then and with it being in january its during our 'summer holiday' and not during footy season so its a good time but yeah i know the heat can often be a problem!

sorry dont mean to be attacking or nething :S

09-17-2002, 10:41 AM
Yeah, the roof is metal. Having it closed won't stop it from being hot in there...and I think air con. is out of the question due to the way that it effects muscles...and why is the heat a problem? I love Melbourne summers. Just drink a lot of water and it's fine

09-17-2002, 10:46 AM
but can anyone actually picture the oz open being indoors????

09-17-2002, 10:47 AM
why is heat a problem??? didntcha see hingis vs capriati..was that this year?!...newayz imagine playing indoors with like no air when its 40 degrees...everyone will faint

09-17-2002, 12:22 PM
Yeah, I saw it. They should be happy that we don't make them play in Darwin

09-17-2002, 12:24 PM
it will be cooler inside if they close the roof
thats why they close the roof when it gets too hot

09-17-2002, 12:34 PM
...actually they close the roof when it rains, or occasionally when rain is forecast. There have been discussions about closing the roof due to heat, but I don't think it has ever happened.

09-17-2002, 09:21 PM
Can't have the Aussie Open indoors. Just wouldn't seem right & anyway only 2 courts are covered & there's no way they could play a slam on just 2 courts.
In fact I was there this year & after leaving the court open in all that heat for the ladies final for the men's it was partly closed & the air con was on!
As someone else said, you can't have it later either as being the hols it means far less problems with getting officials, ball boys & all other people who work there just for those couple of weeks.
As for Wimbledon changing it's surface - God forbid! And if they ever did in the far distant future it would certainly not be to clay.
The last 2 Masters of the year are on indoor courts & so is the MS Final no matter where it's played.

09-18-2002, 01:20 AM
Partially closed means that the seating area is covered, but the sun is still blazing down on the only the audience benefit...and if the roof was only partially closed, the air conditioning you felt was probably comming from the super boxes. Were you sitting near the back?

09-18-2002, 10:44 AM
lol @ not playing in darwin...true...
i dunno i don't really think there is a real debate about it at the moment about the tourney changing to being indoors but i still couldn't imagine it being indoors...its like the olympics being indoors it just wrecks it!

09-18-2002, 11:18 AM
I don't have a problem with indoor tournaments, but it would cost a lot to upgrade every court

Chloe le Bopper
09-18-2002, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by GoLleyt
Lleyton will win the French next year, no worries my hard boiled friend ;)

I *spit* at you :p

09-19-2002, 03:33 AM
I still want a slam in Darwin :p

Ace Tracker
09-19-2002, 05:15 AM
and I want another one in Palau :p , tropical rainstorms notwithstanding...:rolleyes:

King Aaron
09-19-2002, 10:57 AM
lol @ Palau!

09-19-2002, 11:44 AM
I just cant imagince a Grand Slam indoors

09-20-2002, 09:32 PM
Yes we were sitting towards the back (1st row ofthe top section), but we were in the same seats for the ladies & certainly didn't feel any a/c then! Luckily as we were guests I could make for the lounge, drinks, ice cremas & the a/c at change of ends!