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Best Final 1980-2010 AO, RG, WM or USO?

Matchu
08-30-2010, 12:42 PM
Which of AO, RG, WM or USO had the best final in the last 30 years?

Several come to mind - RG 09, AO 09, WM 08, WM 07, USO 02, WM 01, USO 90.

I think RG 09 Final would take it for me, just because it could single handedly be the biggest moment in professional tennis for the last 30 years.

Certinfy
08-30-2010, 12:43 PM
US Open 2009 Final.

Infinity
08-30-2010, 01:12 PM
What was good quality wise of RG 09 final?

ossie
08-30-2010, 01:12 PM
usopen 2009 final and wimbly 2008 final were easily the best matches ive ever seen

ZaZoo)
08-30-2010, 01:15 PM
I think RG 09 Final would take it for me, just because it could single handedly be the biggest moment in professional tennis for the last 30 years.

Yes but final itself was terrible and one sided too. I say AO 09

coonster14
08-30-2010, 01:39 PM
Wimbledon 2007 I thought was pretty good tennis for the first 3 sets, the last 2 sets were so-so (Federer completely lost it with Hawkeye and the umpire in the 4th set, and then in the 5th set, Nadal gave it all he had, but Federer found a way to break through, so kudos to him).

US Open 2009 I found quite enjoyable, and so happy that Del Potro won his first major too. :)

Dohers.
08-30-2010, 01:41 PM
Wimbledon 08 for me. AO 09 was great as well but the final set couldn't live up to the rest of the match

Action Jackson
08-30-2010, 01:42 PM
US Open 88

Fumus
08-30-2010, 02:02 PM
Uso 2003

bokehlicious
08-30-2010, 02:09 PM
Uso 2003

:lol: :awww: :hug:

BodyServe
08-30-2010, 02:12 PM
I think RG 09 Final would take it for me, just because it could single handedly be the biggest moment in professional tennis for the last 30 years.

Horrible quality...but you can't expect Soderling to play well in a final, same hapenned this year.

straitup
08-30-2010, 02:15 PM
USO 1988 or 2009. With Wimbledon 2008 maybe mixed in since that had everything

careergrandslam
08-30-2010, 02:39 PM
wimbledon 2008!

nothing even comes remotely close to that match.
it had amazing quality, drama, tension, comeback, icredible passing shots on massive points, rain delays, both going for historic records, finished in the dark, great celebration from the winner climbing into the royal box, etc.

wimbledon 2008 was the greatest match in tennis history bar none.

wimbledon 1980 had an amazing tiebreak but the rest of the match was just normal, nothing extraordinary.
wimbledon 2008 match was awesome quality throughout the whole match with an incredible and dramatic 4th set tiebreak and the 5th set was the highest quality of the whole match.
it just kept getting better and better.

it doesn't matter whether u support federer or nadal, pretty much every tennis reporter and expert and former players say its the greatest match ever played.

incase people have forgotten, just read some of the reactions.
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=127242

MalwareDie
08-30-2010, 03:08 PM
None of the slams in recent times.

Johnny Groove
08-30-2010, 03:13 PM
US Open 88

Lendl-Wilander was crazy.

Also, USO/Wimbledon 1980 for the quality, USO/Wimbledon 1981 for the changing of the guard.

95 USO wasn't bad, 09 USO, 84 RG, 89 RG, 91 RG, 93 RG, 99 RG, 2004 RG, 06 RG was top stuff, 82 Wimbledon, some of the Becker-Edberg Wimbledon finals, obviously Ivanisevic-Rafter from 2001, 04 Wimbledon, 07, 08, and 09 Wimbledon, 87 AO, 88 AO, 95 AO was pretty good, 02 AO was good, 09 AO was legendary.

Persimmon
08-30-2010, 04:59 PM
AO 09 and Wimbledon 08. By far.

Pirata.
08-30-2010, 05:02 PM
Wimbledon 09 was also crazy good.

ApproachShot
08-30-2010, 05:43 PM
Wimbledon '08 and '09 for me. In both of these 5-set matches, the sense that history was being made just multiplied the tension. I would even go as far to say that Wimbledon 2008 was the best final, ever.

Arkulari
08-30-2010, 05:49 PM
Wimbledon '01: broke my heart in a thousand pieces (Rafter fan) but it was the prize Ivanisevic should have gotten
AO '09: Rafa cements his legacy on HC
USO '00: Beginning of the end for the Sampras Era
RG '04: talented headcase got his slam before the Fedal domination era on clay

Arakasi
08-30-2010, 05:53 PM
AO: '09
RG: '06,'07,'08
W: '08
USO: '09

Greatest GS finals ever. :rolleyes:

jcempire
08-30-2010, 07:00 PM
No interest............

everybody has their own favorite one

Quakes
08-30-2010, 07:02 PM
Practical advice: split the thread into 2.

1st: Best Final 1980-2000 ...
2nd: Best Final 2000-2010 ...

Because it seems most posters only watched tennis in the 2nd era. Me included.

dombrfc
08-30-2010, 07:08 PM
w07 for the quality of the tennis, not 08.

allpro
08-30-2010, 07:14 PM
RG '84 & '99 were quite memorable.

Matchu
08-30-2010, 07:32 PM
Practical advice: split the thread into 2.

1st: Best Final 1980-2000 ...
2nd: Best Final 2000-2010 ...

Because it seems most posters only watched tennis in the 2nd era. Me included.

I will admit I also started watching tennis around 2000 but perhaps posters in this thread feel the quality of finals during the second era were stronger than any pre 2000 rather than them not actually watching the first 20 years, just sayin'.

Sophocles
08-31-2010, 01:49 PM
We should really do Open Era.

Australian Open:
1975 - Newcombe def. Connors;
1988 - Wilander def. Cash;
1995 - Agassi def. Sampras;
2009 - Nadal def. Federer.

French Open:
1974 - Borg def. Orantes;
1984 - Lendl def. McEnroe;
1989 - Chang def. Edberg;
1991 - Courier def. Agassi;
2004 - Gaudio def. Coria.

Wimbledon:
1969 - Laver def. Newcombe;
1972 - Smith def. Nastase;
1975 - Ashe def. Connors;
1977 - Borg def. Connors;
1980 - Borg def. McEnroe;
2001 - Ivanisevic def. Rafter;
2007 - Federer def. Nadal.

U.S. Open:
1976 - Connors def. Borg;
1980 - McEnroe def. Borg;
1988 - Wilander def. Lendl;
2005 - Federer def. Agassi;
2009 - Del Potro def. Federer.

It's worth saying, however, that the best matches in slams are often at the QF or SF stage.

careergrandslam
08-31-2010, 01:55 PM
yea nearly every tennis expert, reporter, former players all say wimbledon 2008 is the greatest tennis match ever played and the people in this forum picks some random match.

we MTF know more than all those former players like mcenroe, sampras, laver, borg, agassi, connors, becker, etc that said it was the greatest match ever played.

Action Jackson
08-31-2010, 01:57 PM
yea nearly every tennis expert, reporter, former players all say wimbledon 2008 is the greatest tennis match ever played and the people in this forum picks some random match.

we MTF know more than all those former players like mcenroe, sampras, laver, borg, agassi, connors, becker, etc that said it was the greatest match ever played.

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Sophocles
08-31-2010, 01:58 PM
yea nearly every tennis expert, reporter, former players all say wimbledon 2008 is the greatest tennis match ever played and the people in this forum picks some random match.

we MTF know more than all those former players like mcenroe, sampras, laver, borg, agassi, connors, becker, etc that said it was the greatest match ever played.

That was hype. Next time there's an epic 5-setter marking the changing of the guard from one great player to another, those same pundits will be proclaiming THAT as the greatest match of all time, particularly if the match is at Wimbledon & the pundits are being interviewed by the B.B.C.

Action Jackson
08-31-2010, 02:03 PM
That was hype. Next time there's an epic 5-setter marking the changing of the guard from one great player to another, those same pundits will be proclaiming THAT as the greatest match of all time, particularly if the match is at Wimbledon & the pundits are being interviewed by the B.B.C.

Pretty much, it was shit quality for the first 3 sets.

cutesteve22
08-31-2010, 02:16 PM
Wimbledon 07 for me
succinct 5 sets, teem with emotions and great shots

BlueSwan
08-31-2010, 02:54 PM
No Fedal match belongs on the list. Not W2008, not AU2009. Sure those matches had intensity, but people tend to forget that the tennis is rarely good when Federer and Nadal meet. One sided ralleys and just a horrible match-up for Federer who rarely plays his best tennis against Nadal. I suppose Nadal DOES play his best tennis against Federer, but it takes two to make a truly great match. W2008 Federer was subpar all the way though (he was even worse at W2009, where he basically won despite playing poorly). AO2009 Federer played well for parts of the match, but faded completely at the end.

careergrandslam
08-31-2010, 02:58 PM
That was hype. Next time there's an epic 5-setter marking the changing of the guard from one great player to another, those same pundits will be proclaiming THAT as the greatest match of all time, particularly if the match is at Wimbledon & the pundits are being interviewed by the B.B.C.

people are still calling it the GOAT match even after 2 years.

careergrandslam
08-31-2010, 02:59 PM
No Fedal match belongs on the list. Not W2008, not AU2009. Sure those matches had intensity, but people tend to forget that the tennis is rarely good when Federer and Nadal meet. One sided ralleys and just a horrible match-up for Federer who rarely plays his best tennis against Nadal. I suppose Nadal DOES play his best tennis against Federer, but it takes two to make a truly great match. W2008 Federer was subpar all the way though (he was even worse at W2009, where he basically won despite playing poorly). AO2009 Federer played well for parts of the match, but faded completely at the end.

:haha:

Auscon
08-31-2010, 03:07 PM
Have never been on the edge of my seat more than I was for 01 Wimby Final. Definitely not the highest quality of the bunch, but loved it all the same.

Can I just take a SF and go AO 05 Safin v Fed? :)

Sophocles
08-31-2010, 03:16 PM
No Fedal match belongs on the list. Not W2008, not AU2009. Sure those matches had intensity, but people tend to forget that the tennis is rarely good when Federer and Nadal meet. One sided ralleys and just a horrible match-up for Federer who rarely plays his best tennis against Nadal. I suppose Nadal DOES play his best tennis against Federer, but it takes two to make a truly great match. W2008 Federer was subpar all the way though (he was even worse at W2009, where he basically won despite playing poorly). AO2009 Federer played well for parts of the match, but faded completely at the end.

I agree up to a point, but you're exaggerating. Federer does after all have as many wins against Nadal as anybody else, as well as a leading head-to-head off clay, so while Nadal may prevent him from playing his game, he can't have played *that* badly every single time. He was poor at Wimbledon 2008 except for parts of the last 2 sets, & very poor in the 5th set at A.O. 2009, but he was very good for most of Wimbledon 2007, as was Nadal.

ossie
08-31-2010, 03:17 PM
That was hype. Next time there's an epic 5-setter marking the changing of the guard from one great player to another, those same pundits will be proclaiming THAT as the greatest match of all time, particularly if the match is at Wimbledon & the pundits are being interviewed by the B.B.C.
not true, wimbledon 2009 had a more epic scoreline yet no1 thinks it can compare to 2008

Sophocles
08-31-2010, 03:21 PM
not true, wimbledon 2009 had a more epic scoreline yet no1 thinks it can compare to 2008

Read the whole sentence. ;-)

roberthenman
08-31-2010, 03:25 PM
Rg 04

Persimmon
08-31-2010, 03:45 PM
not true, wimbledon 2009 had a more epic scoreline yet no1 thinks it can compare to 2008

Because the outcome of the Wimbledon 2009 final was NID:o

Start da Game
08-31-2010, 05:37 PM
1. wimbledon 1999 final (never before, never after)
2. wimbledon 2001 final
3. french open 2008 final
4. australian open 2009 final
5. wimbledon 1990 final

Action Jackson
08-31-2010, 05:45 PM
I will admit I also started watching tennis around 2000 but perhaps posters in this thread feel the quality of finals during the second era were stronger than any pre 2000 rather than them not actually watching the first 20 years, just sayin'.

No, most people on here only started watching from 2005.

HKz
08-31-2010, 06:06 PM
1. wimbledon 1999 final (never before, never after)
2. wimbledon 2001 final
3. french open 2008 final
4. australian open 2009 final
5. wimbledon 1990 final

Lmfao, clearly you just want to be a Nadaltard and piss off Federertards

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
09-01-2010, 04:51 AM
not a final but 1991 SF edberg losing

can't believe he lost

wouldn't have lost if tie breaks didnt exist

probably woulda outlasted the isnar mahut match

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
09-01-2010, 04:52 AM
If semis also count then the schooling that tsonga and del potro did to nadal were most enjoyable

guga2120
09-01-2010, 04:58 AM
I think RG 09 Final would take it for me, just because it could single handedly be the biggest moment in professional tennis for the last 30 years.

It wasn't that match, the quality was not good at all, and you watch it knowing the only reason those two are there is b/c the best player is hurt.

Matchu
09-01-2010, 01:55 PM
It wasn't that match, the quality was not good at all, and you watch it knowing the only reason those two are there is b/c the best player is hurt.

I spose but Soderling backed it up the year after and made the final again (taking out the fedExpress this time). It was by no means a good quality match I was just saying that it was history because most people thought Federer would finally win the Grand Slam so they tuned in.

If Nadal were to win the US open this year I would say he wouldn't be considered the best of all time, I think he will still have to win at least 5 more slams. My point is that the historical significance the final had made it a final that I wanted to watch.

Sophocles
09-01-2010, 03:18 PM
If Nadal were to win the US open this year I would say he wouldn't be considered the best of all time, I think he will still have to win at least 5 more slams. My point is that the historical significance the final had made it a final that I wanted to watch.

It's not just the historical significance. It was a brilliant & underrated display by Federer, in arguably the highest-pressure match of his career. He served, returned & moved beautifully & kept Soderling, who up to that point had been irresistible, on the back foot with aggressive strokes from both wings, expertly judged drop shots, & efficient net play. And played one of the all-time great tie-breakers.

It wasn't close enough to be a great match, but it was a great performance by Federer. He took the initiative from Soderling & didn't ALLOW him to make it close.

Matchu
09-02-2010, 07:42 AM
It's not just the historical significance. It was a brilliant & underrated display by Federer, in arguably the highest-pressure match of his career. He served, returned & moved beautifully & kept Soderling, who up to that point had been irresistible, on the back foot with aggressive strokes from both wings, expertly judged drop shots, & efficient net play. And played one of the all-time great tie-breakers.

It wasn't close enough to be a great match, but it was a great performance by Federer. He took the initiative from Soderling & didn't ALLOW him to make it close.

So you would say that because Federer pretty much shut every door on him that it was an even more impressive feat? but because the match wasn't close it couldn't be considered the BEST final?

navy75
09-02-2010, 07:54 AM
Many on MTF tend to simply be contrarian by nature. When you combine the fact that the younger generation tend to feel the need to all be different and special with the fact that many internet junkies are inherently narcissistic, you are naturally going to have more people that pick Johansson winning the '02 Aussie Open than the Wimbledon from '08 (despite the fact that virtually every player who played in a final from 1980-2010 would themselves choose the Wimbledon '08 final).

Sophocles
09-02-2010, 04:08 PM
So you would say that because Federer pretty much shut every door on him that it was an even more impressive feat? but because the match wasn't close it couldn't be considered the BEST final?

Precisely. To have a great final you need 2 players playing well. (This is the problem with the 2008 Wimbledon final.)

Start da Game
09-02-2010, 04:25 PM
us open 2009 final has to be in the top 10.......a young and inexperienced underdog fighting back from the brink of being 2 sets to love down and winning in 5 over a totally pressure free 15 slam winner.......clutchness taken to another level.......i wish to see a great 5 set final between him and the king of clay sometime in the future at the FO.......

careergrandslam
09-02-2010, 04:34 PM
Many on MTF tend to simply be contrarian by nature. When you combine the fact that the younger generation tend to feel the need to all be different and special with the fact that many internet junkies are inherently narcissistic, you are naturally going to have more people that pick Johansson winning the '02 Aussie Open than the Wimbledon from '08 (despite the fact that virtually every player who played in a final from 1980-2010 would themselves choose the Wimbledon '08 final).

so true.

wimbledon 2008 final is the best match ever.
there is no question about it.

every article that talks about best matches or federer vs nadal, always gives a passing reference to wimbleon 2008 final as the best match in tennis history.

nearly every tennis expert, former player, tennis reporter, tennis historians have said wimbledon 2008 final is the best ever.

Sophocles
09-02-2010, 04:38 PM
All the "experts" used to believe the Sun went round the Earth.

careergrandslam
09-02-2010, 04:42 PM
All the "experts" used to believe the Sun went round the Earth.

we are in 2010.



wimbledon 2008 final = best match ever.

end of story!

Start da Game
09-02-2010, 04:48 PM
we are in 2010.



wimbledon 2008 final = best match ever.

end of story!

he doesn't want to agree with you on that because he still cannot digest the end result of it.......had the result been otherwise, he and his pals would have sigged that match forever.......

unlike him, i am objective and i will just call it how it is.......wimbledon 2008 final is one of the most overrated finals.......

it was a match which nadal should have closed out in straight sets, choked like 200 times, made it thrilling for us and just willed his way through in the end.......in that way it maybe an epic but i never liked the fact that he choked so many times.......

so no, it isn't one of the best finals.......had it been a straight sets match it would have been i my list as one of the most dominating finals ever, like the other two i have.......

Sophocles
09-02-2010, 04:50 PM
we are in 2010.



wimbledon 2008 final = best match ever.

end of story!

Your argument fails.

careergrandslam
09-02-2010, 05:10 PM
Your argument fails.

dude, i dont care who won that match.
who won that match should not come into it when discussing a great tennis match.

that match was out of this world, in the documentary that was made about that match by the BBC, tim henman who was commentating said he was supporting federer until in the 5th set he didnt really care who won because it didnt matter anymore, he said the match was so dramatic with incredible quality he was just lucky to be there to witness such a historic match which will be talked about forever.

it was a match from the heavens.

careergrandslam
09-02-2010, 05:21 PM
he doesn't want to agree with you on that because he still cannot digest the end result of it.......had the result been otherwise, he and his pals would have sigged that match forever.......

unlike him, i am objective and i will just call it how it is.......wimbledon 2008 final is one of the most overrated finals.......

it was a match which nadal should have closed out in straight sets, choked like 200 times, made it thrilling for us and just willed his way through in the end.......in that way it maybe an epic but i never liked the fact that he choked so many times.......

so no, it isn't one of the best finals.......had it been a straight sets match it would have been i my list as one of the most dominating finals ever, like the other two i have.......

thats what made it so great, an aspect of it.
nadal choking in the 3rd set at 4-4 *0-40 on federer's serve and then in that 4th set tiebreak being up 5-2.
but it was also federer coming back, saving match points then rafa coming back from choking and winning it.
it added to the story, the epic. not just the tennis, but how the script went.

then the rain delays, the defending champion hanging on by the skin of his teeth not willing to give up his throne easily, federer fought with everything he had, the changing of the guard.
nadal overcoming that disappointed, mental strength to hang on, physical strength to keep up that quality for over 4 hours of play, the 5th set was dramatic, then the fading light, the wimbledon crowd going nuts, the unique celebration, the great sportsmanship of both at the end.
the match was so close in each set aswell, there was no blowout sets like wimbledon 2007 final.

it just had so many different things.
the match was so crazy.

i'll never ever forget it.

Sophocles
09-02-2010, 05:27 PM
thats what made it so great, an aspect of it.
nadal choking in the 3rd set at 4-4 *0-40 on federer's serve and then in that 4th set tiebreak being up 5-2.
but it was also federer coming back, saving match points then rafa coming back from choking and winning it.
it added to the story, the epic. not just the tennis, but how the script went.

then the rain delays, the defending champion hanging on by the skin of his teeth not willing to give up his throne easily, federer fought with everything he had, the changing of the guard.
nadal overcoming that disappointed, mental strength to hang on, physical strength to keep up that quality for over 4 hours of play, the 5th set was dramatic, then the fading light, the wimbledon crowd going nuts, the unique celebration, the great sportsmanship of both at the end.
the match was so close in each set aswell, there was no blowout sets like wimbledon 2007 final.

it just had so many different things.
the match was so crazy.

i'll never ever forget it.

It was dramatic & memorable, but you can't get away from the fact that the first 3 sets were shit.

Andresito
09-02-2010, 09:13 PM
Wimbledon 2008 was excellent, but I often think that without 2006 and 2007, the taste would be different.

Same happens with RG 2009.

There's no perfect match, but having read a lot of threads and users here, I think the most overrated thing is the "tennis quality" concept.

By far.

Then, for the memories of fast courts, and serve & volley style of play, I'm keeping 2001 Wimbledon, even if I wanted Patrick to win.