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U.S. Open men's seed report: Jon Wertheim

DrJules
08-27-2010, 07:49 PM
So Wertheim is picking a Federer win over Nadal in the US Open final with Nadal beating Murray in semi-final:

SI.com's Jon Wertheim breaks down the men's and women's seeds at the U.S. Open. Read on for the top first-round matchups, dark horses to watch and his predicted winners. Find Wertheim's women's seed report here.
Top 16 seeds

1. Rafael Nadal: He's won the past two Slams and is firmly entrenched as numero uno. But until he can prove his bona fides in New York -- where he's never won, of course, so much as reached the final -- it's hard to tab him as the favorite. Especially coming off two desultory performances in Toronto and Cincy. Physically, Nadal should be okay, a change from years past. And the draw gods have smiled on him. It's the fast court that remains a cause for concern.

2. Roger Federer: As the critics were busy considering what to wear to the Federer funeral, suddenly, the Mighty One is back, winning Cincinnati, making a personnel move and getting happier with the state of his game. Yes, he's only won two titles in 2010 and lost to lots of lesser lights. But when a five-time champ shows up in form -- especially with his 2009 vanquisher not in the draw -- how is he not the favorite?

3. Novak Djokovic: Fast becoming tennis's mystery man. A disturbing trend: He tends to play well in week one, only to have the wires short in week two. He has the game to win a second major, no one denies that. But can the heart and head (and respiratory system) cooperate?

4. Andy Murray: "Andy will win a Slam one day" is getting stale. If not now, when? Comes into his favorite major with some momentum, having beaten both Federer and Nadal this summer. And he appears comfortable with his mom as a de facto coach. Now about those seven wins...

5. Robin Soderling: Holy mediocrity, Batman. Robin ought to be a terrific hard-court player, what with those, flat pace-laced strokes. But his results this year have been most ordinary.

6. Nikolay Davydenko: Another Mystery Man. The eccentric Russian looked terrific in late 2009 and early '10, especially on the fast hard courts. But thanks largely to injury, he's hasn't been heard from much since. Always a dangerous player but lingering injury and limited match play might hinder his progress.

7. Tomas Berdych: Has yet to piggyback on his tremendous Wimbledon showing. But those flat, hard strokes ought to go over well. Plus he appears to have overcome his penchant for shaky effort. Burtal first-round draw against Michael Llodra, but after that, look out.

8. Fernando Verdasco: Loads of talent and hardcourt weaponry but the results haven't kept pace with the expectations this year. Can upgrade a fine-but-not-great season with a strong showing.

9. Andy Roddick: On the plus side, the Americans have a player back in the Top 10. It's been a funny year for Roddick, some superlative tennis (Miami) mixed with some bad losses. Plus a case of mono. Always a threat in New York -- and his draw could have been much worse -- but he surely wishes he had more momentum coming in.

10. David Ferrer: An admirable grinder who's wrung everything from his game and will win battles of attrition. But lacks the serve and arsenal to threaten for the title.

11. Marin Cilic: After a fine performance in 2009 -- in which he appeared destined for the top five -- the palindromic one has regressed this year. Last chance to salvage a disappointing season.

12. Mikhail Youzhny: Always dangerous, his power game is at odds with his physique.

13. Jurgen Melzer: Austrian lefty had done himself proud at the past two majors but appears to have a hit a wall.

14. Nicolas Almagro: Have to admire anyone with the body of a middle reliever who competes at this level. Fun, expressive player but not a threat to win a hard-court major.

15. Ivan Ljubicic: Hard-serving Croat had the week on his life on the hard courts of Indian Wells but has been quiet ever since.

16. Marcos Baghdatis: Needs the diet of Fish (his likely third-round foe). Terrifically talented player is always worth watching, but lacks to stamina/fitness to win seven best-of-five matches.
Seeds 17-32

17. Gael Monfils: A personal favorite on athleticism alone. But the results seldom keep pace with the talent.

18. John Isner: In a vacuum, he'd be a strong pick. But on a bum ankle, his game is severely compromised.

19. Mardy Fish: In throes of his finest year. Can garnish with a strong showing in New York. What's the over/under on the number of times we get the backstory on his diet?

20. Sam Querrey: The fourth American in the Top 20, Querrey is emerging as a mercurial dangerous/maddening player: winning titles, but still looking for a Slam breakthrough. May well get another crack at Murray -- for the third time in eight or so weeks -- in third round.

24. Ernests Gulbis: Not unlike Querrey, a dangerous player seeking more consistent results. Given him credit on a fine bounceback year, though.

27. Fernando Gonzalez: Gonzo's best days are behind him, but always a dangerous player on the right day.

31. David Nalbandian: The player no one wants to face. Former semifinalist is suddenly playing A-level tennis. Unlikely to hold up for seven rounds, but a major yellow highlighter on this name. If he makes it to the quarters (against Nadal?), it wouldn't be surprising at all.

32. Lleyton Hewitt: Former U.S. Open champ no longer a threat to win the title, but always a threat to win a particular match on guts alone.
Dark-horse nation

Michael Llodra: Hard-serving lefty.

Thiemo de Bakker: Young player with a bright future.

Alex Dolgopolov: Perhaps the best male player you've never heard of -- and he's only 21. Check him out.
First-round matches to watch

Gulbis vs. Jeremy Chardy: Two players of tomorrow.

Querrey vs. Bradley Klahn: Seeded American takes on 2010 NCAA champ.

Berdych vs. Michael Llodra: Tough first round opponent -- a hard-serving lefty -- for Wimbledon finalist.

Djokovic vs. Viktor Troicki: Battle for Serbia.

Lleyton Hewitt vs. Paul-Henri Mathieu: Two solid veterans.
Blue-plate upset special

None. All 16 seeds will advance. (If Isner is immobile, he could go down.)
Doubles winners

The Bryans, Bob and Mike: Time to back up the record and the summer publicity with another Slam.
Semifinals

Nadal vs. Murray

Roddick vs. Federer
Final

Federer vs. Nadal (the last time they played in the final of a major was the 2009 Australian Open)
Champion

Federer

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/jon_wertheim/08/26/usopen.men/index.html

Pirata.
08-27-2010, 08:47 PM
Nadal vs. Murray

Roddick vs. Federer

:spit:

Murray and Federer maybe. Doubt that Roddick and Nadal will make the semis, but I guess it'll be two easy wins for Andy and Roger if they do :lol:

Li Ching Yuen
08-27-2010, 08:49 PM
What is with people overhyping Roddick so much?...Can't you see that he can barely play tennis?

Pea
08-27-2010, 09:44 PM
rodduck will go out in 2nd round.

Blackbriar
08-27-2010, 09:52 PM
this guy is paid to deliver this BS?

tribalfusion
08-27-2010, 11:36 PM
What is with people overhyping Roddick so much?...Can't you see that he can barely play tennis?

Yea those Soderling and Djokovic guys he just beat are juniors or something.

MalwareDie
08-28-2010, 12:23 AM
Now all we need is Simon Reed's joke of a prediction.

Roamed
08-28-2010, 12:34 AM
Now all we need is Simon Reed's joke of a prediction.

He hasn't posted a prediction exactly but (surprise, surprise) heavily hyped up Murray's chances in a recent post. Poor Andy :sobbing:

KarlyM
08-28-2010, 07:25 AM
Now all we need is Simon Reed's joke of a prediction. + the Bud Collins curse! :lol:

Li Ching Yuen
08-28-2010, 07:58 AM
Yea those Soderling and Djokovic guys he just beat are juniors or something.

Djokovic? haha

Djokovic hasn't played tennis in about 7-8 months. He's just around, for some weird reason.

And yeah, Soderling can't return serve, what's new?

I'm talking about real tennis, fanboy.

tribalfusion
08-28-2010, 08:58 AM
Djokovic? haha

Djokovic hasn't played tennis in about 7-8 months. He's just around, for some weird reason.

And yeah, Soderling can't return serve, what's new?

I'm talking about real tennis, fanboy.

2 of the top 5 players in the world are "incapable of returning serve" and just "around for some weird reason" respectively.

You are talking about fantasy tennis, fangirl.

Humerus
08-28-2010, 09:36 AM
Jon Wertheim is a mess:rolls:. That said, Djokovic's quarter is a hilarious joke: Davydenko, Djoker, Roddick and Baghdatis:lol:? A MESS!

FairWeatherFan
08-28-2010, 10:09 AM
Rubbish article.

Persimmon
08-28-2010, 02:56 PM
Murray and Federer final I think.

River
08-28-2010, 05:27 PM
So a guy picks a logical choice in Roddick/Federer/Murray/Nadal and it's BS?

Who else in this list has had good results lately?

Nole's on respitory life support with a seriously f*cked up Draw.

Del Potro, the guy who's supposed to be favored, is not here.

Soderling has been bad lately.

Davy is still in recovery and Berdych is still struggling to reclaim his Wimbledon form.

Basically, everyone is either injured or just dead tired from the season. Roddick has been recovering, Murray is in good form, Nadal is scheduling a little better and Federer now has a decent support team with good results.

It's stupid, almost utterly stupid how people can't even see an objective article for what it is anymore. He actually said the right things, and even then people get angry, lol.

OnyxRose
08-28-2010, 07:55 PM
Shhh...logic has no place in this forum.

Mechlan
08-28-2010, 08:00 PM
So a guy picks a logical choice in Roddick/Federer/Murray/Nadal and it's BS?

Who else in this list has had good results lately?

Nole's on respitory life support with a seriously f*cked up Draw.

Del Potro, the guy who's supposed to be favored, is not here.

Soderling has been bad lately.

Davy is still in recovery and Berdych is still struggling to reclaim his Wimbledon form.

Basically, everyone is either injured or just dead tired from the season. Roddick has been recovering, Murray is in good form, Nadal is scheduling a little better and Federer now has a decent support team with good results.

It's stupid, almost utterly stupid how people can't even see an objective article for what it is anymore. He actually said the right things, and even then people get angry, lol.

:hatoff:

Agreed. I can understand making fun of his picks when he predicts Monfils every slam, but come on, he picked probably the three biggest favorites to reach the semis here. Roddick is the exception, but I wouldn't exactly be surprised to see him on Super Saturday either. To the people that think these picks are a joke, give us your (better) predictions.

Blackbriar
08-28-2010, 08:20 PM
given his latest results Rafa won't reach the final.
but frankly predicting a rafa-fed GS final is anything but taking a risk. and the top 4 in semis, and the top 8 in quarters, wow!! in France we have an expression that says "pushing the open doors", this is an obvious exemple.his report is BULLSH*T

heya
08-28-2010, 08:37 PM
Djokovic? haha

Djokovic hasn't played tennis in about 7-8 months. He's just around, for some weird reason.

And yeah, Soderling can't return serve, what's new?

I'm talking about real tennis, fanboy.
Roddick can't trust himself and even as a spoiled child, he's just existing in stupidity.
He knows nothing about life or sports. He should be locked up like Mark Chapman (Lennon's murderer). How terrible he has fallen!

Calidreth
08-28-2010, 08:41 PM
Federer winning this sounds about right.

tribalfusion
08-28-2010, 09:55 PM
Roddick can't trust himself and even as a spoiled child, he's just existing in stupidity.
He knows nothing about life or sports. He should be locked up like Mark Chapman (Lennon's murderer). How terrible he has fallen!

Speaking of stupidity...

Malul
08-29-2010, 11:07 AM
5. Robin Soderling: Holy mediocrity, Batman. Robin ought to be a terrific hard-court player, what with those, flat pace-laced strokes. But his results this year have been most ordinary.


:smash: :lol:

FactsPlease
08-29-2010, 12:32 PM
What is with people overhyping Roddick so much?...Can't you see that he can barely play tennis?

Jon Wertheim is a total nationalist and jingoist - he's obsessed with American players, American tennis, American everything.

It's understandable that he writes more about American players, given that he writes for an American audience, but tennis is an international sport and when you let your blind jingoism infect who you root for and your analysis, it turns your analysis to crap.

That's why he declared Serena Williams the Greatest Player of All Time - even though she has way fewer Slams and tournament wins than at least 5 other players. It's why he always picks Roddick to win everything.

He's a clown and a joke who every non-American -- and even many Americans -- laugh at for his obsessive American bias.

MacTheKnife
08-29-2010, 12:38 PM
:hatoff:

Agreed. I can understand making fun of his picks when he predicts Monfils every slam, but come on, he picked probably the three biggest favorites to reach the semis here. Roddick is the exception, but I wouldn't exactly be surprised to see him on Super Saturday either. To the people that think these picks are a joke, give us your (better) predictions.

This. No matter who anyone picked there would be similar posts.

tribalfusion
08-29-2010, 05:47 PM
Jon Wertheim is a total nationalist and jingoist - he's obsessed with American players, American tennis, American everything.

It's understandable that he writes more about American players, given that he writes for an American audience, but tennis is an international sport and when you let your blind jingoism infect who you root for and your analysis, it turns your analysis to crap.

That's why he declared Serena Williams the Greatest Player of All Time - even though she has way fewer Slams and tournament wins than at least 5 other players. It's why he always picks Roddick to win everything.

He's a clown and a joke who every non-American -- and even many Americans -- laugh at for his obsessive American bias.


You don't need be a clown (such as yourself) to think Roddick (who just beat 2 top 5 players coming off of mono) is one of the top hard court players in the world.

FactsPlease
08-29-2010, 11:07 PM
You don't need be a clown (such as yourself) to think Roddick (who just beat 2 top 5 players coming off of mono) is one of the top hard court players in the world.

What a shock that an American angrily jumps in to defend an American sportswriter glorifying an American player.

Nobody could have predicted that.

Roddick hasn't been in an U.S. Open SF since 2006.

Last year he went out in the 3rd round.

And those last three years have been better than this year. That's why - as you might have noticed - he just fell out of the Top 10 and is now at 9.

The fact that he's "coming off of mono" makes the SF pick even worse, not better.

Picking this aging, broken, declining douchebag of a player (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=167176) to make the SF is nothing more than jingoistic :bs::bs:

American sportswriters pick American tennis players to win because it's how they - and you - are.

It's just basic hyper-nationalism. Nobody in the world, outside your country, is surprised by this.

Nice pic of you from your profile:

http://www.tatteredcoat.com/images/flag_man.jpg

Mechlan
08-29-2010, 11:17 PM
What a shock that an American angrily jumps in to defend an American sportswriter glorifying an American player.

Nobody could have predicted that.

Roddick hasn't been in an U.S. Open SF since 2006.

Last year he went out in the 3rd round.

And those last three years have been better than this year. That's why - as you might have noticed - he just fell out of the Top 10 and is now at 9.

The fact that he's "coming off of mono" makes the SF pick even worse, not better.

Picking this aging, broken, declining douchebag of a player (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=167176) to make the SF is nothing more than jingoistic :bs::bs:

American sportswriters pick American tennis players to win because it's how they - and you - are.

It's just basic hyper-nationalism. Nobody in the world, outside your country, is surprised by this.

Nice pic of you from your profile:

http://www.tatteredcoat.com/images/flag_man.jpg

You have some serious issues. Don't really want to wade into your bullshit, so let's just stick to tennis. Who's your pick for the semis from that quarter?

FactsPlease
08-29-2010, 11:42 PM
You have some serious issues. Don't really want to wade into your bullshit, so let's just stick to tennis. Who's your pick for the semis from that quarter?

Davydenko - with Baghdatis a dark horse pick.

tribalfusion
08-30-2010, 12:06 AM
What a shock that an American angrily jumps in to defend an American sportswriter glorifying an American player.

Nobody could have predicted that.

Roddick hasn't been in an U.S. Open SF since 2006.

Last year he went out in the 3rd round.

And those last three years have been better than this year. That's why - as you might have noticed - he just fell out of the Top 10 and is now at 9.

The fact that he's "coming off of mono" makes the SF pick even worse, not better.

Picking this aging, broken, declining douchebag of a player (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=167176) to make the SF is nothing more than jingoistic :bs::bs:

American sportswriters pick American tennis players to win because it's how they - and you - are.

It's just basic hyper-nationalism. Nobody in the world, outside your country, is surprised by this.

Nice pic of you from your profile:

http://www.tatteredcoat.com/images/flag_man.jpg




Roddick is one of the best hard court players in the world and has been for a long time. He just beat 2 of the top 5 coming off mono and before that won a masters 1000 on hard this very season. His last non-mono season on grass he was a Wimbledon finalist and close to winning. Moreover, neither the writer nor I picked him to win but rather as someone who can do some damage. Hardly an extravagant claim.

Wrap your pea-brain around this: I do not need to be American or a fan of Roddick or Werthheim to see a perennial top ten player as a tough out.

In fact, you know nothing of me nor my beliefs nor even if I am American. Your bizarre comments directed at my presumed nationalism speak of your own personal ideological difficulties which you exercise on a tennis forum of all places.

As for "angrily" jumping in, please get some therapy. The only angry "douchebag" here is you.

misty1
08-30-2010, 12:30 AM
davy never got to play roddick when he was on fire late last year and early this year..would have liked to see that match

but now..i dont know how the davy/roddick match will go.

tribalfusion
08-30-2010, 12:44 AM
davy never got to play roddick when he was on fire late last year and early this year..would have liked to see that match

but now..i dont know how the davy/roddick match will go.

I would be curious to see it myself if it materializes. Roddick has had a surprisingly easy time with Davydenko through the years with a 5-1 record and only 3 sets lost.

misty1
08-30-2010, 12:48 AM
davy did beat roddick the last time they met..he's 1-4(i really dont count wins by walk over)

i think, if davy was still the player he was at the end of last year he'd handle roddick in 4 sets but now...i dont know, neither one has been that impressive lately.

tribalfusion
08-30-2010, 12:55 AM
i think, if davy was still the player he was at the end of last year he'd handle roddick in 4 sets but now...i dont know, neither one has been that impressive lately.

Roddick has certainly had a better year than Davy with a masters win and his year to date is 39/10 vs 22/11.

Whether you count the walkover or not Roddick has still had very good results against Davy.

misty1
08-30-2010, 01:07 AM
oh i know he has i dont deny that

i kind of hope davy pulls off the win if they meet, davy needs to gather points wherever he can

FactsPlease
09-02-2010, 04:06 AM
Roddick hasn't been in an U.S. Open SF since 2006.

Last year he went out in the 3rd round.

And those last three years have been better than this year. That's why - as you might have noticed - he just fell out of the Top 10 and is now at 9.

The fact that he's "coming off of mono" makes the SF pick even worse, not better.

Picking this aging, broken, declining douchebag of a player (http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=167176) to make the SF is nothing more than jingoistic :bs::bs:

American sportswriters pick American tennis players to win because it's how they - and you - are.

It's just basic hyper-nationalism.

Now - what was I saying about Jon Wertheim's pick for Roddick to make the SF, and all those Roddick fans who defended it? :lol::lol::lol:

:haha::haha::haha:

:wavey::wavey::wavey:

Pea
09-02-2010, 04:13 AM
rodduck will go out in 2nd round.

Thank you! Thank you!

christallh24
09-02-2010, 04:16 AM
^^^Good call.

tribalfusion
09-02-2010, 04:30 AM
Now - what was I saying about Jon Wertheim's pick for Roddick to make the SF, and all those Roddick fans who defended it? :lol::lol::lol:

:haha::haha::haha:

:wavey::wavey::wavey:

I am in point of fact not a Roddick "fan" but I don't think you understood the point in the first place.

Oriental_Rain
09-02-2010, 04:36 AM
rodduck will go out in 2nd round.
psychic you:p

Mechlan
09-03-2010, 03:52 AM
I am in point of fact not a Roddick "fan" but I don't think you understood the point in the first place.

Not only does he not get the point, he can't pick em any better either.

Davydenko - with Baghdatis a dark horse pick.

Don't mouth off about what you think are someone's reasons for a pick if you don't know shit yourself, k?

LleytonMonfils
09-03-2010, 04:29 AM
Thank you! Thank you!

Dude you got to update the signature, seriously. 2004!?!?!?!?

~*BGT*~
09-03-2010, 04:55 AM
Roddick can't trust himself and even as a spoiled child, he's just existing in stupidity.
He knows nothing about life or sports. He should be locked up like Mark Chapman (Lennon's murderer). How terrible he has fallen!

I love you heya. :rolls:

You have some serious issues. Don't really want to wade into your bullshit, so let's just stick to tennis. Who's your pick for the semis from that quarter?

Davydenko - with Baghdatis a dark horse pick.

Good job dude. Both are out by round 2. :hatoff:

tribalfusion
09-03-2010, 04:59 AM
Not only does he not get the point, he can't pick em any better either.

Originally Posted by FactsPlease
Davydenko - with Baghdatis a dark horse pick.

Don't mouth off about what you think are someone's reasons for a pick if you don't know shit yourself, k?



Absolutely brilliant...thanks for bringing that to my attention again :)