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Once more, Nadal has Murray in his half in a hardcourt major

aloniv
08-27-2010, 02:04 AM
He's had him in his half of the draw in hardcourt majors since 2008 AO, which at least partially explains why he hasn't made more hardcourt major finals since then as two of his losses have been to Murray. I'd fancy Murray's chances against Federer in every round except the final, where unfortunately he doesn't play his best due to pressure. I'd also fancy Nadal's chances against Djokovic on hardcourts considering Djokovic's recent lack of form.

Malva
08-27-2010, 02:05 AM
Poor Murray. Nadal is getting ready to fucking slay.

emotion
08-27-2010, 02:06 AM
Idk, Murray kinda choked at Wimby. He should've been at 4-6 7-6 6-3...

Johnny Groove
08-27-2010, 02:07 AM
I wouldn't want it any other way.

green25814
08-27-2010, 02:43 AM
I don't think either mind, both seem to like each other, and neither exactly dominates the other. All you can say is Murray has the edge on hard, while Rafa has the edge on grass and obviously dominates on clay. Both are probably happy with that semi.

TeamID
08-27-2010, 03:06 AM
I thought it was Djokovic who was always in Nadal's half? The more things change...

xargon
08-27-2010, 04:53 AM
I thought it was Djokovic who was always in Nadal's half? The more things change...

Yeah, during clay season.:)

careergrandslam
08-27-2010, 05:03 AM
no excuses.
if rafa wants to win the title he has to beat the best.
if he isnt good enough to beat the likes of murray, then his legacy will be tarnished.

Mimi
08-27-2010, 05:13 AM
:rolleyes::wavey: bye bye rafa, try next year:eek:

careergrandslam
08-27-2010, 05:23 AM
:rolleyes::wavey: bye bye rafa, try next year:eek:

its ok mimi :hug:

Tom Paulman
08-27-2010, 05:29 AM
You guys act like it's a certainity that Nadal will make semis.

Gêmeos
08-27-2010, 05:30 AM
don't retire this time,please.

Mimi
08-27-2010, 05:35 AM
its ok mimi :hug:

:smooch::smooch:

Mimi
08-27-2010, 05:36 AM
don't retire this time,please.

he won't unless he is seriously injured. He has no reason to afraid of Murray even if Murray has more chance to win in hardcourt. Rafa's records speak for himself, there is long way before Murray can catch him

n8
08-27-2010, 06:21 AM
This is getting annoying. This also means that Djokovic and Federer are almost always in the same half. Federer d. Djokovic in the semis of the last two US Opens. I was really hoping for a Federer-Murray and/or Djokovic-Nadal match up before the final.

straitup
08-27-2010, 06:26 AM
This is getting annoying. This also means that Djokovic and Federer are almost always in the same half. Federer d. Djokovic in the semis of the last two US Opens. I was really hoping for a Federer-Murray and/or Djokovic-Nadal match up before the final.

This. It's been Fed-Djokovic and Murray-Nadal many times, and Fed-Djokovic is almost never a good match, while Murray-Nadal is always decent quality but seems to always be straight sets. I happen to think Fed-Murray would be quite a good match in a SF, I think it would be their best chance to play a 5 setter. Same with Djokovic-Nadal

Langers
08-27-2010, 06:48 AM
Another pointless thread.

Mechlan
08-27-2010, 07:25 AM
You can only play who's in front of you, both in good times and bad.

tennis2tennis
08-27-2010, 07:32 AM
You can only play who's in front of you, both in good times and bad.

+1:cool:

Infinity
08-27-2010, 09:57 AM
So, you want him to win the title without beating the best out there?

Castafiore
08-27-2010, 10:12 AM
^ :confused: How do you go from "once more, Nadal has Murray in his half in a hardcourt major" to "so, you don't want him to win by beating the best"? :scratch:

The player he would have in his half would be a top player anyway so he would have one of the best in his half either way. It's not as if people are expecting the ATP n° 256 to be in his half instead of Murray.

madmax
08-27-2010, 10:40 AM
it's not like Mugray is some unbeatable force on fast Decoturf anyway, like Roger has proved before and will most likely do the same this year. Nadull is simply not good enough to overcome scott pusher on hard - so who's fault is that then?

A_Skywalker
08-27-2010, 11:04 AM
At least the top half should be first and they will have more deserved rest.

NJ88
08-27-2010, 11:31 AM
Good for Murray, not so great for Nadal. He seems to be a good matchup for Andy on hardcourt. I hope to see a replay of the resutl in Tornonto if they both get to that stage.

Serenidad
08-27-2010, 11:46 AM
Brands is also in this half so this is a very rough draw to both players. Hard to know who will make the final between Murray and Brands.

Diprosalic
08-27-2010, 03:37 PM
poor nadal has a player in his half that never won a grand slam. ever.
that must be really though.

Persimmon
08-27-2010, 03:40 PM
Rafa is always unlucky with draws.


This. It's been Fed-Djokovic and Murray-Nadal many times, and Fed-Djokovic is almost never a good match, while Murray-Nadal is always decent quality but seems to always be straight sets. I happen to think Fed-Murray would be quite a good match in a SF, I think it would be their best chance to play a 5 setter. Same with Djokovic-Nadal

It would be more interesting SF. I believe Murray has better chances of beating Fed in the SF of a slam than in the final. And Nole in the SF could beat Rafa. So Fed-Murray/Nadal-Nole SF would add new dimension to the game since we could have a Nole-Murray slam final. But with the traditional Fed-Nole and Rafa-Murray SF the final is very predictable. Fed defeats Murray:o

TheBoiledEgg
08-27-2010, 04:38 PM
its a good thing he hasnt got Davydenko.

Kolya would spank his sorry ass even in shit form.

finn98
08-27-2010, 04:46 PM
This is getting annoying. This also means that Djokovic and Federer are almost always in the same half. Federer d. Djokovic in the semis of the last two US Opens. I was really hoping for a Federer-Murray and/or Djokovic-Nadal match up before the final.

You mean suspicious...? I am seriously hoping an ATP or ITF official to come up with a tell all book about 'draw conspiracy' sometime in the future. USO already has quite a reputation to show favouritism towards certain players( agassi in 90's) *cough* federer's draw *cough*

SaFed2005
08-27-2010, 04:58 PM
So, you want him to win the title without beating the best out there?

1. Muray is not "the best out there" on hard courts until he wins a couple of slams on the surface.

2. Djokovic is not exactly an easy matchup for Nadal on fast hard court. Djokovic whether playing good or bad can hold his own against Nadal on hard courts, especially fast ones.

Too bad Fed is not #3... Nadal's best bet to reach the final would actually be if he had Federer in the semis. His game matches up well to Fed on any surface and he has the mental edge.

guga2120
08-27-2010, 05:49 PM
It sucks for both of them. Its the last person Rafa would want to play, and it would be better for Andy to play Roger in sf. If Andy plays the way he is capable of like in Toronto, he beats Federer, if he lets the pressure get to him, and gets too defensive he will lose again.

Roger, got a cakewalk though, so thats all good.;)

Blackbriar
08-27-2010, 06:06 PM
if, if, if......

ossie
08-27-2010, 06:19 PM
i wouldnt be surprised if rafa beat murray this time, whoever wins it doesnt really matter because fed would beat both of them in the final

Matt01
08-27-2010, 06:31 PM
i wouldnt be surprised if rafa beat murray this time, whoever wins it doesnt really matter because fed would beat both of them in the final


Yeah, because we all know that Fed is such a bad match-up for Nadal. :awww:

Topspin Forehand
08-27-2010, 10:04 PM
It's fucking pathetic isn't it. 3 and 4 should alternate rather than go random.

sdfedfans
08-27-2010, 11:06 PM
I just looked it up and Federer and Djokovic have been in the same half of the draw at GSs since Wimbledon 2008!:eek:

straitup
08-27-2010, 11:45 PM
It's fucking pathetic isn't it. 3 and 4 should alternate rather than go random.

Because #3 and #4 in the rankings can't change spots...

peribsen
08-28-2010, 01:44 AM
Shame Rafa can't face Federer in round 1... and rd2... and rd3.. all the way to the final.

Its the last person Rafa would want to play

Do you really believe that?

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
08-28-2010, 03:48 AM
can't believe the bitchin goin down

i thought spartan warrior was going to bring "shock and awe" to the us hardcourts

murray isn't unbeatable

i would say djokovic is a tougher matchup for rafa on a fast hard court

either way, you would have had nadal fans complain

Priam
08-28-2010, 04:21 AM
People said the same thing going into Wimby this year (potentially Soda, Murray, Federer). Just play the game.

moon language
08-28-2010, 04:34 AM
It's not like Nadal has never beaten Murray on a hardcourt. It's about time he did it again.

Clay Death
08-28-2010, 04:39 AM
It's not like Nadal has never beaten Murray on a hardcourt. It's about time he did it again.

unless he fucks up his knees getting there, its happening this year.

this year clay warrior king will be getting into the final. i can just feel it.

christallh24
08-28-2010, 05:34 AM
no excuses.

More an observation than excuse. It's curious, but I don't believe in conspiracies. Even if the draws were fixed, I feel the talented enough will come through it. Or a fluke win by a player on a hot streak.

You guys act like it's a certainity that Nadal will make semis.

Will you go on record and say unequivocally that he won't?

it's not like Murray is some unbeatable force on fast Decoturf anyway, like Roger has proved before and will most likely do the same this year. Nadal is simply not good enough to overcome scott pusher on hard - so who's fault is that then?

Ugh. See, I agree with the point, but you just had become an hater:rolleyes:. Anyway, I fixed that for you.:ras::angel:

i thought spartan warrior was going to bring "shock and awe" to the us hardcourts

That was CD and the like. Do not lump all fans of a fanbase together. Some of us can recognize and admit our faves faults and weakiness. But don't go getting on a high horse, either. You, too, would complain...if you were of fan of a player with something to complain about.

Toaderling
08-28-2010, 05:42 AM
Nadal will not make the semifinal of the US Open.

aloniv
08-28-2010, 05:53 AM
I just looked it up and Federer and Djokovic have been in the same half of the draw at GSs since Wimbledon 2008!:eek:

Actually Djokovic was set to meet Nadal at this year's French Open before losing to Melzer.

gusavo
08-28-2010, 06:05 AM
Will you go on record and say unequivocally that he won't?

lol what

christallh24
08-28-2010, 06:23 AM
I still get pissed at Nole for that...that...debacle. He was two sets and a break up. I really hope he works out the demons in his head.

Persimmon
08-28-2010, 03:59 PM
Nadal will not make the semifinal of the US Open.

Yeah, he is losing to Nalby or Gulbis in the QF.