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Main Draw Housing

Moder
08-23-2010, 02:21 PM
Does anyone know if main draw players get compensation or free housing at atp events and grand slams?


For example, they pay for the hotel but get the cost back at the end of the week.

ad-out
08-23-2010, 02:35 PM
Pretty sure they have to pay for their own accomodations. ;)

Chip_s_m
08-23-2010, 02:42 PM
At the US Open they get an allowance for food and hotel for each day that they're in the tournament (plus some for practice days). I think the hotel allowance may only apply if they stay at the official player hotel, though. I'm not sure how it's paid out. I would assume they just tack it on to a player's prize money. My guess is that most other ATP tournaments are similar.

Moder
08-23-2010, 02:57 PM
Thanks.

ltaravilse
08-23-2010, 03:07 PM
I heard of players that play doubles so if they lose in first round in singles but reach semis or final in doubles they get paid for the accomodation for the whole week. Of course I'm not talking about Federer or Nadal who don't have any problem with paying an hotel but Challenger players use to do that.

ad-out
08-23-2010, 03:43 PM
But what about hotel for coaches, etc.. That would have to paid for by the player right?

JustJames
08-23-2010, 04:36 PM
As far as Im aware at ATP level accomodation is provided by the tournament, and is therefore completely free of charge for the players (who I assume can share a room with their coaches if applicable)

The situation is far from consistant as you move down the tennis ladder - only tournaments that have the suffix '+H' (which stands for Hospitatlity) provide free accomodation for players. And as a poster has already mentioned they do so only whilst the player still remains in either the singles or doubles draws, hence why singles players take doubles seriously even if their ranking is of little interest to them. It is also worth noting that the '+H' is reflected in the points available at the tournament - so staying in the tournament is often more difficult as the fileds are generally stronger.

In addition, there are some challenger & futures tournaments (mainly in the US) that encourage the local community to take in players for the duration of the tournament. This does not affect the ranking points available and is organised at the expense of the tournament/local community.

pesto
08-23-2010, 05:20 PM
Found the Competitors' Guide to Wimbledon 2009 (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CDYQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.akel.co.uk%2Fwork%2Fwimbledon %2F2009%2520competitors%2527%2520guide.pdf&ei=aqxyTMK9M8G74AaUj4XTCQ&usg=AFQjCNGouC_zTMXlWv7FxvfjNP1Cr1uvOg&sig2=RTik_jkR5oI9QORZv-I9-A).

At that time, main draw competitors got a per diem allowance of £170 for each day they were in the tournament, plus three days, and Q-draw competitors got a per diem allowance of £85 for each day they were in the tournament, plus two days.

tennisroberts
08-23-2010, 05:25 PM
Players get an allowance ($200?) they can use as they see fit. I'm sure many double bunk it to save on cash or stay with someone they know. I believe it starts a few days before the main draw and ends the day after you lose in your last main draw event.

Ivo#1Fan
08-23-2010, 05:39 PM
Thanks to all the people who gave real responses. This is a question I've often wondered about as well.

Moder
08-23-2010, 10:24 PM
Thanks everyone. I never thought about playing doubles for that reason. Makes sense.

I know what you mean about inconsistent at the lower levels.
A local futures tournament near me tries to host players when possible but some have to bunk up at a local hotel.
Tough to make ends meat if you don't make it at least a round or two to get at least a little prize money.

Fee
08-24-2010, 12:21 AM
The ATP Rulebook spells out exactly what tournaments are required to provide to players in the way of housing, as does the ITF Rulebook for the events they govern. The Slams pay per diem and give players a list of recommended hotels, but players can do whatever the heck they want with their money, which is why some of them rent apartments during Wimbledon.

Miami and IW also pay per diem instead of booking hotel rooms because they are combined events and its too much of a pain in the ass for the tournament to deal with the arrangements. Again, the players are given a list of recommended 'official' hotels, but some choose to stay at other locations.

Of course, players who negotiate appearance fees and sign contracts to appear in tournaments (250/500 level optionals) can always negotiate a few perks, like 5 hotel rooms instead of 2, or the penthouse suite or whatever.

Most of the questions that get asked here about some of the technical stuff can usually be answered by a quick look through the ATP or ITF Rulebooks. They are both online at their websites.

Moder
08-24-2010, 03:09 PM
Good call on the rulebook!

There are tons on details on pages 18 - 20 for those who are interested in how the specifics work.

Link for the ATP book. You can get a pdf towards the top of the page:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Corporate/Rulebook.aspx

scoobs
08-24-2010, 03:10 PM
Very true, we all know tournaments like Dubai throw in luxury suites and so on for its top seeds.

Goldenoldie
08-24-2010, 03:39 PM
Not entirely relevant perhaps, but I seem to recall Andy Murray somewhere this Spring asking for additional accommodation and then pissing off the T/D by withdrawing.

Fee
08-25-2010, 01:49 AM
Not entirely relevant perhaps, but I seem to recall Andy Murray somewhere this Spring asking for additional accommodation and then pissing off the T/D by withdrawing.

The French tournament during the indoor season? The one where the TD went public with his rant and made everyone look bad.

guichard
08-25-2010, 02:01 AM
Not entirely relevant perhaps, but I seem to recall Andy Murray somewhere this Spring asking for additional accommodation and then pissing off the T/D by withdrawing.

Yes, the tournament was Marseille.