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Who's the worst S&V pretender?

Sri
08-22-2010, 04:59 AM
Just watching the highlights of Fish vs. Roddick.

Andy Roddick:

Doesn't know when to come in
Has horrible approach shots
Can't volley (especially of the backhand side)
Doesn't even instinctively cover the default cross-court passing shot


Is he the worst current player who attempts to play from the net? :smash:

emotion
08-22-2010, 05:01 AM
Soderling
???

Sri
08-22-2010, 05:03 AM
Soderling
???
Does he try to come to the net? If not, I don't think he should count.

Title should be: Who is the worst S&V pretender. :-)

Arkulari
08-22-2010, 05:05 AM
Monfils, Soderling, Verdasco, Boredo, Massu...

there aren't as many people good at the net as there used to be, nowadays it's all baseline game

Sri
08-22-2010, 05:07 AM
Umm.. rephrased the topic to "Who is the worst S&V pretender?"

Sorry for the confusion :P

Roddickominator
08-22-2010, 05:36 AM
The vast majority of players on tour are pretty bad at net. They aren't S&V pretenders...because they don't even try to S&V. Roddick comes to net sometimes, but rarely after his serve....he prefers to follow some of the worst approach shots ever seen....and then his actual volleys leave plenty to be desired as well.

If more players went to net more, they'd look as bad too i'd imagine...but most seem to have learned that this is a very bad play in today's game. Especially if they're not going to learn how to do it right.

Arkulari
08-22-2010, 06:51 AM
there are lots of players nowadays who cannot volley , so the list is pretty long :lol:

FlameOn
08-22-2010, 08:11 AM
Monfils, Soderling, Verdasco, Boredo, Massu...

there aren't as many people good at the net as there used to be, nowadays it's all baseline game

When do these players ever S&V?

JMG
08-22-2010, 08:25 AM
Robredo isn't bad.

Jomp1
08-22-2010, 10:48 AM
Problem with most players is not that they have that bad of a volley, but rather that they don't know when to come to the net. Come to the net at the wrong approach and you're likely to look silly at the net against ATP players.

MacTheKnife
08-22-2010, 11:45 AM
there are lots of players nowadays who cannot volley , so the list is pretty long :lol:

This. OMG, trying to think of a really good volley is tough. As for a bad one, take your pick.

laurie-1
08-22-2010, 12:11 PM
I'd go along with everyone's comments here, especially Roddick - what has been said here is very accurate.

Har-Tru
08-22-2010, 12:41 PM
It has to be Roddick. They guy tries, but every single S&V from him is facepalm-inducing...

leng jai
08-22-2010, 12:50 PM
Fedclown 2008 RG Final.

MacTheKnife
08-22-2010, 12:50 PM
It has to be Roddick. They guy tries, but every single S&V from him is facepalm-inducing...

Specially if it's on the BH side.. :lol:

leng jai
08-22-2010, 12:52 PM
Specially if it's on the BH side.. :lol:

Not to mention the power knife slice approach shots.

Myrre
08-22-2010, 01:11 PM
Surely the best time to come in is after the serve right? If you're gonna S&V.... ;)

timafi
08-22-2010, 01:18 PM
Monfils;Soderling and Verdasco have all better return of serve than Roddick so they don't need to serve and volley all that much even if it would be great if they got better at it:shrug:

You know when Roddick is panicking and losing when he "serves and volleyes":tape::o:o:o:o:o

Filo V.
08-22-2010, 02:15 PM
Roddick doesn't serve and volley, so I don't know why his name would be brought up. He doesn't do it. He actually comes to the net less in general than he did a few years ago.

Of guys who S&V regularly or at least some times, I think Brands is pretty mediocre. Dustin is inconsistent, he can miss easy ones and make flashy plays. Zverev can be inconsistent. Dent to me sometimes is too slow to cover the net effectively.

MacTheKnife
08-22-2010, 02:31 PM
Roddick doesn't serve and volley, so I don't know why his name would be brought up. He doesn't do it. He actually comes to the net less in general than he did a few years ago.

Of guys who S&V regularly or at least some times, I think Brands is pretty mediocre. Dustin is inconsistent, he can miss easy ones and make flashy plays. Zverev can be inconsistent. Dent to me sometimes is too slow to cover the net effectively.

He served and volleyed about 3 or 4 times against fish. Nowadays, that's all it takes to be called a S&V'er.. :lol:

MacTheKnife
08-22-2010, 02:33 PM
Also Flyboy, I see you live in Richmond. I lived there for two years, 06 & 07. Played at ACAC.. do you play there by any chance ??

emotion
08-22-2010, 02:48 PM
the doctor...

Har-Tru
08-22-2010, 03:10 PM
Roddick does S&V at times rather regularly for modern standards, like against Nadal in Miami (or was it IW?)

Serenidad
08-22-2010, 03:15 PM
Roddick doesn't serve and volley, so I don't know why his name would be brought up. He doesn't do it. He actually comes to the net less in general than he did a few years ago.

Of guys who S&V regularly or at least some times, I think Brands is pretty mediocre. Dustin is inconsistent, he can miss easy ones and make flashy plays. Zverev can be inconsistent. Dent to me sometimes is too slow to cover the net effectively.

Brands is a very competent serve/volley player.

Filo V.
08-22-2010, 06:51 PM
Also Flyboy, I see you live in Richmond. I lived there for two years, 06 & 07. Played at ACAC.. do you play there by any chance ??

No, I don't play there but I do have a friend who does :) Did you enjoy your stay in Richmond? A lot of people like to play tennis here, it's a good city for tennis lovers, a lot of available courts.

Filo V.
08-22-2010, 06:52 PM
Brands is a very competent serve/volley player.

You are biased so it's hard to talk to you on any level of reality, but Daniel isn't a great volleyer.

Filo V.
08-22-2010, 06:53 PM
He served and volleyed about 3 or 4 times against fish. Nowadays, that's all it takes to be called a S&V'er.. :lol:Hahaha, yeah, that is true, and that makes me sad, especially with players like Roddick who are incapable of doing it effectively :sad:

Filo V.
08-22-2010, 06:57 PM
Roddick does S&V at times rather regularly for modern standards, like against Nadal in Miami (or was it IW?)
You are right, it was Miami ;) He does S&V at times, but generally that's when his back is against the wall, not a regular standard of play, but I guess that it is enough in modern times as you say. He doesn't do it effectively enough for it really to be considered serve and volley. More like serve and put away the easy shot, or serve and hope the ball isn't returned.

Haelfix
08-22-2010, 07:03 PM
Definitely Roddick. Whenever he's losing a match, he starts to S/V and its painful to watch.

He has terrible net coverage, has no anticipation, and his approach shots could be amongst the worst on tour.

You rarely see him even get a racquet on the ball.

Fedex
08-22-2010, 08:05 PM
So few players even try to come to the net these days. That's why I'm loving Federer's new attacking approach. Fed came to the net a lot more earlier in his career (and he did his fair share of serve and volleying too), but he pretty much abandoned that strategy after winning his first major. He'll need it a lot more.

On to the point of the thread, Roddick is pretty bad (though he has improved), Soderling is also horrible at the net but he picks his spots better than someone like Roddick. While very few players venture to the net these days, even fewer "serve and volley" with regularity.

Helevorn
08-22-2010, 08:22 PM
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poor roddick :lol: