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Cincy QF: Fish d. Murray 6-7(7), 6-1, 7-6(5)

The Freak
08-20-2010, 07:13 PM
Mardy! Great stuff out there. :worship:

Jagermeister
08-20-2010, 07:13 PM
Murray was in one of his spells where he didn't really look like he wanted to be there and acted like a brat at times. But he still fought through it. Mardy had to win this one.

Great job by Mardy.

TurtleTennis
08-20-2010, 07:13 PM
Entertaining,Drama-filled match!

dombrfc
08-20-2010, 07:13 PM
Oh Andrew why didnt you challenge on that point

Roddickominator
08-20-2010, 07:13 PM
More like JesusFish defeats Murray. What a beast this new Fish is.

Allegretto
08-20-2010, 07:13 PM
Murray looked completely out of gas by the end. Probably best for his US Open chances that he lost this one.

SheepleBuster
08-20-2010, 07:13 PM
:nerner:

MalwareDie
08-20-2010, 07:13 PM
Murray needs to learn how to challenge points properly.

Johnny Groove
08-20-2010, 07:13 PM
Great fight there from Mardy. Clutch in the tiebreak, coming back from 2-4 down.

5-5, Fish with a stellar backhand return to take over the point.

Murray didn't lose this, Fish took it from him.

asmazif
08-20-2010, 07:14 PM
Fish should have won the first set as well, so would have been a frustrating loss for him... some nice tennis here :)

jonas
08-20-2010, 07:14 PM
Mardy hasn't only lost loads of weight, he's also gained some clutch mentality along the way. Great stuff.

Freeze17171
08-20-2010, 07:14 PM
1st set was tentative, 2nd set was a tank, but the 3rd set was great stuff from both players.

habibko
08-20-2010, 07:14 PM
aggressive attacking tennis beats pushing one more time, tennis is the winner :worship:

Fish this year = Murray killa :banana:

rexman
08-20-2010, 07:14 PM
Great fight there from Mardy. Clutch in the tiebreak, coming back from 2-4 down.

5-5, Fish with a stellar backhand return to take over the point.

Murray didn't lose this, Fish took it from him.

He came from 2-4 down, but he should have been down 2-5. Horrendous miss there from the linesperson.

Big_Juicy
08-20-2010, 07:14 PM
Things opening up quite nicely for Djokovic

Sri
08-20-2010, 07:14 PM
Murray was totally exhausted from set #2.

Acer
08-20-2010, 07:14 PM
Schooled!

scoobs
08-20-2010, 07:14 PM
Can rest now for the Open, Andy, you need to.

Fish played well today, deserved the win, was clutch when he needed to be and got a little bit of luck there right at the end.

timafi
08-20-2010, 07:14 PM
hopefully both of them loses in the First week of the USO:angel:

aloniv
08-20-2010, 07:15 PM
Well done Mardy Fish ;-)

Time Violation
08-20-2010, 07:15 PM
Murray got robbed by that wrong call in the TB. I doubt he would have lost the match had he won that point.

danton
08-20-2010, 07:15 PM
I'm pleased Murray lost that.

Cincy has more than it's share of poor quality matches due to the humidity and heat. It's the same every year.

Certinfy
08-20-2010, 07:15 PM
Fish is on fucking fire!

Ad Wim
08-20-2010, 07:15 PM
Murray had it right in his pocket, but choked. Fish played well throughout the match, but not in the TB. Murray should have taken advantage of that. But he wasn't 100% sharp. He'll be there at the US Open.

Sri
08-20-2010, 07:15 PM
aggressive attacking tennis beats pushing one more time, tennis is the winner :worship:

Fish this year = Murray killa :banana:
+1

Great volleying by Fish!

Johnny Groove
08-20-2010, 07:15 PM
He came from 2-4 down, but he should have been down 2-5. Horrendous miss there from the linesperson.

Line calls even themselves out.

Remember the DF vs. Nadal last week?

oematoema
08-20-2010, 07:15 PM
What a lump of frustration this Murray is, and Fish is cool as fish.

djb84xi
08-20-2010, 07:15 PM
Unbelievable. Great win for Fish. He's definitely earned my respect after this one.

TurtleTennis
08-20-2010, 07:15 PM
An Insane Drop Volley winner from Mardy down 2-4!

Certinfy
08-20-2010, 07:15 PM
Things opening up quite nicely for DjokovicRoddick will beat him.

tennishero
08-20-2010, 07:16 PM
vamos fish :banana:

MIMIC
08-20-2010, 07:16 PM
Thank you, Jesus! :worship:

Fish showed some tremendous mental strength. Murray looked like he was about to pass out anyway.....and, like yesterday, relied on his opponent to fall apart first.

Didn't happen today :cool:

Jagermeister
08-20-2010, 07:16 PM
Mardy's serve has gotten much better...lots of clutch serves.

Murray didn't look so fresh. It's kinda tough to watch him play when he's just shoulder-slumping. Reminds me of Lindsay Davenport LOL

henke007
08-20-2010, 07:16 PM
Tennis f'kin won finally!!!:D

Fish owns Murray 3-0 in 2010:wavey:

Geo
08-20-2010, 07:16 PM
:haha: :rolls: Fish owns Murray 3-0 this year :worship: this is 1 of the few times I ever cheer for Mardy :lol: well done to beat Murray in another clutch match :yeah:


:bigwave: Murray. and he won't win the USO either

moon language
08-20-2010, 07:16 PM
Mardy's volleys were great. He doesn't panic at the net like nearly every other player out there today. Great win for him.

Probably best for Murray that he's out now so he can be fresh for the Open.

Javier Bardem
08-20-2010, 07:16 PM
the ball was out *4-2 for murray!! it coulda of went 5-2... tough loss

Clydey
08-20-2010, 07:17 PM
Gotta laugh at Fish's celebration. Murray loooked completely shot and had no right to take the final set to a tiebreaker.

In a way, I'm glad he lost. Another round here would have seriously hurt his chances in New York.

green25814
08-20-2010, 07:17 PM
Great performance from Fish, happy for him.

Murray was obviously exhausted, so I'm pleased he has a chance to rest up before the open.

Ben.
08-20-2010, 07:17 PM
Match had an edge from the very first game after some words were exchanged. Well done to Muzza for playing hard all the way in the condition he was in, though I think the bad mood he was in didn't help. Think it is good he is out, he has looked knackered in the last two matches, now has planty of time to recover for USO, he got number four seed all tied up so job done.

Impressed by Fish's form recently, some of the volleys he was making in the last set were very impressive. After coming in here as a WC he has now got a seeding for USO right? Well done to him. Could yet make the final.

Ozone
08-20-2010, 07:17 PM
:worship:
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:worship:

Glad to see the better player and tennis player win it today!:woohoo: 3-0 this year:worship: Great stuff Mardy

tennishero
08-20-2010, 07:17 PM
Roddick will beat him.

brands!! not you aswell, noooooooooooooooo...

tealeaves
08-20-2010, 07:17 PM
3-0 versus Murray this year :eek: MY OH MY

djb84xi
08-20-2010, 07:17 PM
More like JesusFish defeats Murray. What a beast this new Fish is.

Right now, he's looking like a serious contender for the US Open. Best tennis he's played in his entire career. Hope he can keep it going.

tennishero
08-20-2010, 07:18 PM
Gotta laugh at Fish's celebration. Murray loooked completely shot and had no right to take the final set to a tiebreaker.

In a way, I'm glad he lost. Another round here would have seriously hurt his chances in New York.

not like he would win it anyway. :rolleyes:

Ozone
08-20-2010, 07:18 PM
Gotta laugh at Fish's celebration. Murray loooked completely shot and had no right to take the final set to a tiebreaker.

In a way, I'm glad he lost. Another round here would have seriously hurt his chances in New York.
Fish has worked incredibly hard this year and after that gutsy performance he deserves to have a great celebration, of which I saw nothing abnormal about it.

Gladiator
08-20-2010, 07:19 PM
nice

~*BGT*~
08-20-2010, 07:19 PM
My sig says it all. :banana:

Roddickominator
08-20-2010, 07:19 PM
Mardy was like 31-38 at net....excellent stuff.

jcempire
08-20-2010, 07:20 PM
Murray was luck in 1st set tie-break but not the same result in 3rd set.

What a win by Fish! and not too bad for Murray because he needs to take a break before USO. Go both Murray and Fish

habibko
08-20-2010, 07:20 PM
Murray got robbed by that wrong call in the TB. I doubt he would have lost the match had he won that point.

only justice for the horrible call in the first set TB, 7-7, at least this time Murray had control of his own destiny and could have challenge, Fish couldn't do anything about a point he was in control of and had to replay.

timafi
08-20-2010, 07:21 PM
American linesperson gifts Fish with 1 free point

DartMarcus
08-20-2010, 07:21 PM
Mardy is probably the best player in the world at the net. His serve has always been his biggest weapon. Backhand is solid as well. Forehand is the only shot Mardy needs to improve in pretty badly. :)

Sapeod
08-20-2010, 07:22 PM
Schooled!
:retard:
Last time I checked, losing in 3, two being very close tiebreaks isn't being schooled :retard:

Certinfy
08-20-2010, 07:22 PM
This match could of easily reach 3 and a half hours if the 2nd set wasn't so one sided.

Jimnik
08-20-2010, 07:22 PM
He's disappointed now but Muzza will be glad at the Open when he's not burned out.

Biggest win for Fishy so far. Goes to show the importance of confidence.

green25814
08-20-2010, 07:22 PM
only justice for the horrible call in the first set TB, 7-7, at least this time Murray had control of his own destiny and could have challenge, Fish couldn't do anything about a point he was in control with and had to replay.

The Fish is lucky Murray had heat exhaustion tbh, though I won't deny he played well and was clutch.

Certinfy
08-20-2010, 07:23 PM
Quite amazing how Fish is a WC as well...

rubbERR
08-20-2010, 07:23 PM
total domination, never in doubt

djb84xi
08-20-2010, 07:23 PM
Murray definitely didn't win the Cincy fans over after this one. Thought it was really rude and childish to rush off the court the way he did. It's nobody's fault but his that he didn't challenge that call in the TB. And, it's nobody fault but his that he lost this match. Fish beat him fair and square and he was the better player today.

Sapeod
08-20-2010, 07:24 PM
VERY VERY VERY DISAPPOINTING.
I actually can't believe any player, let alone Murray can lose to this guy 3 times in a row.
If Fish doesn't win this tournament now (meaning Murray lost to the champion), I might actually harm myself from fuming so much.

philosophicalarf
08-20-2010, 07:25 PM
Murray cooked, doesn't know when to sensibly tank. Glad he lost, needs the rest, and he would have got hammered by Djoko. Good professionalism to stay out there though, half the tour would have lost the tiebreak, dropped an early break and retired.

Fish tried his hardest to blow it, he looked nervous as hell. Net game was nice, some lovely touc there, but he made a ludicrous number of basic errors off no pace nothing shots on the baseline. His first serve returns were very poor, and his second ones even worse.

habibko
08-20-2010, 07:25 PM
The Fish is lucky Murray had heat exhaustion tbh, though I won't deny he played well and was clutch.

he was tired against Gulbis as well, but Gulbis couldn't take advantage, Fish deserves alot of credit as he was tired himself as well.

Murray was running fine by the end of the 3rd set that's for sure.

jcempire
08-20-2010, 07:27 PM
American linesperson gifts Fish with 1 free point

but don't forget that he should win 1st set which he may not need 3rd set

ZaZoo)
08-20-2010, 07:28 PM
Fish doing what Federror couldn't, taking the trash out.

Jomp1
08-20-2010, 07:31 PM
Amazing tennis. Best of luck in the semis Mardy, I think he has a good chance on the tournament.

Johnny_Bravo
08-20-2010, 07:32 PM
Now go and cry to your mommy how organizers didn't give you a night session.The point is that mugrray lost to Fish 3rd time in a row this year,and that isn't a top 5 player's characteristic.

I remember how djoka was sometimes winning his matches.The guy had some real reasons to withdrew,but still managed to win it as he's top notch player.Murray on the other side doesn't know if he'll hold onto his knee,wrist or maybe smth else.

If we should seek why this guy never won a slam,then here it is, and if he never wins it,we know what was the problem

Dougie
08-20-2010, 07:36 PM
I´m sure Murray´s not too dissapointed, at least he gets a proper rest before the US Open. Still, nice win for Fish.

philosophicalarf
08-20-2010, 07:36 PM
I remember how djoka was sometimes winning his matches.The guy had some real reasons to withdrew,but still managed to win it as he's top notch player.


Main tour retirals:


Murray: Once, when he was winning 5-1. He was out for 3 months afterwards with a wrist injury.

Djoko: Nine retirals, some for life threatening conditions like sore throats.

jrm
08-20-2010, 07:37 PM
Mardy :yeah:

watch (or better to say hear) his explanation on why he lost

ImmzB
08-20-2010, 07:37 PM
Yes Fish! :yeah:

straitup
08-20-2010, 07:37 PM
Beautifully done Mardy :worship: 3 wins over Murray in 1 year, not many people can say that

Sapeod
08-20-2010, 07:38 PM
Looking on the bright side of things, Murray's haters get a lot out of this (they're probably touching themselves right now) and also Andy has 10 days to rest up until the US Open.

Arkulari
08-20-2010, 07:44 PM
this is positive for both of them: one gets rest for the USO, the other gets a great result and a good shot to go to the final :)

Serenidad
08-20-2010, 07:46 PM
Murray. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I guess you don't like Fish and Chips.

jcempire
08-20-2010, 07:49 PM
this is positive for both of them: one gets rest for the USO, the other gets a great result and a good shot to go to the final :)

Yes, fully agree

DrJules
08-20-2010, 07:50 PM
VERY VERY VERY DISAPPOINTING.
I actually can't believe any player, let alone Murray can lose to this guy 3 times in a row.
If Fish doesn't win this tournament now (meaning Murray lost to the champion), I might actually harm myself from fuming so much.

No chance of Fish winning this event as he not a good enough player to win a master series.

It is very difficult to do the Canadian and Cincinnati double and there is a good reason few have done it and in this case Murray has not. He was physically gone playing Gulbis and I avoided putting any vCash on Murray to win. A fully fit and rested Murray will nearly always beat Fish because Murray is a top player reflected by being constantly in the top 5 while Fish is almost always outside the top 20 because he is an inferior player.

Murray was tired from being so successful last week. Fish did not have that problem as he has only reached 2 MS finals both which he lost in about 8 years on tour.

Fish took advantage of a tired and exhausted Murray. That was what I saw and I prefer to go by my observations.

Clydey
08-20-2010, 07:52 PM
I love how fickle MTF is. Murray was a surefire winner of the US Open 5 days ago. Now he'll be lucky to make it to the 4th round.

Most of you are seemingly oblivious to how often you change your minds. As I said before, it's like a goldfish convention in this joint. It seems like most people can't remember anything beyond the immediate past.

chazz
08-20-2010, 07:53 PM
nalby and fish will both be seeded to face top 8 oppostion in the US in round 3 most likely, could be very interesting

tangerine_dream
08-20-2010, 07:53 PM
Haggis makes wonderful Fish bait. :lick:

DrJules
08-20-2010, 07:53 PM
Beautifully done Mardy :worship: 3 wins over Murray in 1 year, not many people can say that

But Fish has no master series titles and Djokovic will extinguish Fish's hopes and the biased Cincinnati crowd after finishing off Roddick and the biased Cincinnati crowd today.

habibko
08-20-2010, 07:54 PM
No chance of Fish winning this event as he not a good enough player to win a master series.

It is very difficult to do the Canadian and Cincinnati double and there is a good reason few have done it and in this case Murray has not. He was physically gone playing Gulbis and I avoided putting any vCash on Murray to win. A fully fit and rested Murray will nearly always beat Fish because Murray is a top player reflected by being constantly in the top 5 while Fish is almost always outside the top 20 because he is an inferior player.

Murray was tired from being so successful last week. Fish did not have that problem as he has only reached 2 MS finals both which he lost in about 8 years on tour.

Fish took advantage of a tired and exhausted Murray. That was what I saw and I prefer to go by my observations.

Fish has already beaten Murray 2 times this year going into this match, you can't really say Murray is tired every time he plays Fish now can you?

Clydey
08-20-2010, 07:56 PM
Fish has already beaten Murray 2 times this year going into this match, you can't really say Murray is tired every time he plays Fish now can you?

Murray was playing some of the worst tennis of his career at that point.

Sapeod
08-20-2010, 07:56 PM
I love how fickle MTF is. Murray was a surefire winner of the US Open 5 days ago. Now he'll be lucky to make it to the 4th round.

Most of you are seemingly oblivious to how often you change your minds. As I said before, it's like a goldfish convention in this joint. It seems like most people can't remember anything beyond the immediate past.
+1

Sapeod
08-20-2010, 07:58 PM
Fish has already beaten Murray 2 times this year going into this match, you can't really say Murray is tired every time he plays Fish now can you?
Murray was exhausted in this match, and still only lost by a few points in 3 very tough sets.
A normal, not exhausted Murray would've blown Fish off the court.
He wasn't tired in the other two matches this year, he was just incredibly awful.

philosophicalarf
08-20-2010, 08:01 PM
Fish was a lot more impressive in the Queens match imo. The court and this heat are begging for him to dominate with his groundstrokes, and he's just pushing like Roddick most of the time. Admittedly a lot further up the court, but still, he was very tame. Same against Verdasco, almost as if he didn't have confidence in the accuracy off the forehand.

Matt01
08-20-2010, 08:01 PM
Muzza :hug:
Good luck at USO :D


I love how fickle MTF is. Murray was a surefire winner of the US Open 5 days ago. Now he'll be lucky to make it to the 4th round.

Most of you are seemingly oblivious to how often you change your minds. As I said before, it's like a goldfish convention in this joint. It seems like most people can't remember anything beyond the immediate past.


Lots of MTFers have a short memory, that's for sure. :lol:

MacTheKnife
08-20-2010, 08:01 PM
Good stuff from fish. Glad to see all that hard work pay off. Murray tried to be more aggressive at times, but each time fish took back control with good baseline play and excellent volleys. Murray could learn something from his last couple of matches with fish. Should be murray using those tactics too.

DrJules
08-20-2010, 08:03 PM
Fish has already beaten Murray 2 times this year going into this match, you can't really say Murray is tired every time he plays Fish now can you?

No.

But Fish does not do something unusual like Nadal which enables a lesser player to dominate a superior player in head to head.

There is nothing about the Fish game that should make him a very bad match up.

Gulbis came very close yesterday which was very unexpected.

As I said very few have done the Canadian-Cincinnati double. The last being Roddick 2003.

Horatio Caine
08-20-2010, 08:03 PM
In some respects it is good that Muzza will be forced into extra rest. It has been a brutal schedule for him over the last 10 days, playing in the height of the heat.

Great win for Fish again...almost starting to get into Muzza's head now. :tape:

Decent week also for Muzza...got the job done in keeping his top 4 position.

ApproachShot
08-20-2010, 08:05 PM
Excellent victory for Mardy - and some great tennis played along the way. I indicated before the match thar Murray should win this despite playing a fair few matches in a short span of days but Fish totally deserved the win.

Ozone
08-20-2010, 08:05 PM
But Fish has no master series titles and Djokovic will extinguish Fish's hopes and the biased Cincinnati crowd after finishing off Roddick and the biased Cincinnati crowd today.
:wavey:

Roddickominator
08-20-2010, 08:06 PM
No.

But Fish does not do something unusual like Nadal which enables a lesser player to dominate a superior player in head to head.

There is nothing about the Fish game that should make him a very bad match up.

Gulbis came very close yesterday which was very unexpected.

As I said very few have done the Canadian-Cincinnati double. The last being Roddick 2003.

I think Andy has more trouble with Fish's serve(both 1st and 2nd) than with other players....and the backhand-to-backhand rallies aren't a clear advantage to Murray either. That kinda nullifies 2 of Murray's biggest strengths.

FedforFrench
08-20-2010, 08:07 PM
[B]A fully fit and rested Murray will nearly always beat Fish because Murray is a top player reflected by being constantly in the top 5 while Fish is almost always outside the top 20 because he is an inferior player.



What a stupid comment to make..Fish leads their H2H 4-3, and has beaten him thrice this year. Murray was neither tired nor fully unfit in the other two meetings this year. Its true that Murray was playing terrible tennis, but that is not an excuse to justify your mindless statement, and I am a Murray fan FYI..

habibko
08-20-2010, 08:09 PM
Murray was playing some of the worst tennis of his career at that point.

nice excuse, we can also say that for example Federer only loses when he is playing his worst tennis, otherwise he nearly always wins :yeah:

I'm just saying that Murray could also be beaten by Fish when he isn't tired and exhausted, contrary to what DrJules thinks, not many players can beat Murray even when he is playing badly.

MacTheKnife
08-20-2010, 08:11 PM
Fish is the polar opposite of murray. When things get tight murray gets passive and that's when fish gets aggressive. That's not a good formula for murray and is why he is 0 for his last 3 with fish.

christallh24
08-20-2010, 08:14 PM
:retard:
Last time I checked, losing in 3, two being very close tiebreaks isn't being schooled :retard:

Yet you'd post the same thing about a player you don't like.

Looking on the bright side of things, Murray's haters get a lot out of this (they're probably touching themselves right now) and also Andy has 10 days to rest up until the US Open.

You are one of the most hypocritical MTF'ers.

Anyway, congrats Mardy. I doubt he'd win against Andy in a major and especially if they meet at the USO. So if he's going to lose to him, I think Andy would rather it be in a smaller event.

KarlyM
08-20-2010, 08:16 PM
Nice win for no socks. :)

Voo de Mar
08-20-2010, 08:17 PM
Love it :worship: (unfortunately didn't see the third set :mad:)

DrJules
08-20-2010, 08:18 PM
[B]What a stupid comment to make..Fish leads their H2H 4-3, and has beaten him thrice this year. Murray was neither tired nor fully unfit in the other two meetings this year. Its true that Murray was playing terrible tennis, but that is not an excuse to justify your mindless statement, and I am a Murray fan FYI..

I am saying this may be a rare case where an adverse head to head not does mean anything more fundamental.

If he had played either Federer or Nadal on a hard court the way he played in those 3 matches against Fish he would not have won a set against either player.

Nadal would have murdered Murray today.

Mechlan
08-20-2010, 08:21 PM
Fish is the polar opposite of murray. When things get tight murray gets passive and that's when fish gets aggressive. That's not a good formula for murray and is why he is 0 for his last 3 with fish.

Murray shouldn't really have to play close matches against Fish. He's a much better player than him, and has beaten him several times before this year. If it comes down to who plays the bigger points better, Murray's either playing worse than usual or Fish is playing better.

That said, congrats to Fish, he was the better player today and deserved the win.

Jagermeister
08-20-2010, 08:21 PM
I am saying this may be a rare case where an adverse head to head not does mean anything more fundamental.

So H2H doesn't mean anything if it makes your guy look bad? Alrighty then!

I see the Murraytards have a rolodex of excuses ready to go. ;)

Voo de Mar
08-20-2010, 08:23 PM
Can someone tell me whether Murray was two points away from victory in the tie-break?

Serenidad
08-20-2010, 08:24 PM
Can someone tell me whether Murray was two points away from victory in the tie-break?

Yes he was. It was 5-5 at one point Murray serving.

Voo has any player ever lost 3 consecutive Bo3 format matches in a 3rd tiebreak to another player?

Also you need to cast your vote in the WWW New Haven thread!

Voo de Mar
08-20-2010, 08:27 PM
Yes he was. It was 5-5 at one point Murray serving.

Voo has any player ever lost 3 consecutive Bo3 format matches in a 3rd tiebreak to another player?

Also you need to cast your vote in the WWW New Haven thread!

Thx Sernee :hug:

Yes, Krajicek lost 3 consecutive matches 6-7 in the third to Ivanisevic in years 1995-1997 :( And fourth match in that streak 13-15 in the fifth :mad:

Sapeod
08-20-2010, 08:28 PM
Yet you'd post the same thing about a player you don't like.
No, I have, and never will.

A scoreline like this, a match with a tiebreak or a 3 setter is never a schooling. Never.

Serenidad
08-20-2010, 08:29 PM
Thx Sernee :hug:

Yes, Krajicek lost 3 consecutive matches 6-7 in the third to Ivanisevic in years 1995-1997 :( And fourth match in that streak 13-15 in the fifth :mad:

oh Richard poor baby. :smooch:

FormerRafaFan
08-20-2010, 08:31 PM
Wow.. This came out of the blue. I have no idea what to say, thought Murray would win for sure. All credit to Fish though, he managed to beat an in-form Murray, which is no easy job.

Sapeod
08-20-2010, 08:31 PM
So H2H doesn't mean anything if it makes your guy look bad? Alrighty then!

I see the Murraytards have a rolodex of excuses ready to go. ;)
I think that he means is:

Fish 4-3 Murray
Murray = 2 GS finals, 15 titles, world no.4
Fish = A few 250 titles, world no.36

Nadal 14-7 Federer
Federer = 16 GS, 60 titles, 1 week of Sampras' weeks at no.1 record.
Nadal = 8 GS, 41 titles, Over 60 weeks at no.1?

Sapeod
08-20-2010, 08:32 PM
Wow.. This came out of the blue. I have no idea what to say, thought Murray would win for sure. All credit to Fish though, he managed to beat an in-form Murray, which is no easy job.
I see you're being sarcastic.

Sapeod
08-20-2010, 08:33 PM
[B]

What a stupid comment to make..Fish leads their H2H 4-3, and has beaten him thrice this year. Murray was neither tired nor fully unfit in the other two meetings this year. Its true that Murray was playing terrible tennis, but that is not an excuse to justify your mindless statement, and I am a Murray fan FYI..
A fully fit Murray will always beat Fish.
What's so hard to grasp about that?

ORGASMATRON
08-20-2010, 08:35 PM
wow i thought murray had come back to form, yet he loses to this mug for a 3rd time in a row. no chance for murray now at the USO.

green25814
08-20-2010, 08:38 PM
Really, cant we all just get along?

ORGASMATRON
08-20-2010, 08:40 PM
this was like fed vs berdych last week. if fed lost to berdych 3 times in a row i was ready to write him off. not just for the USO but for good. murray is done now. at least for the USO.

Jagermeister
08-20-2010, 08:40 PM
I think that he means is:

Fish 4-3 Murray
Murray = 2 GS finals, 15 titles, world no.4
Fish = A few 250 titles, world no.36

Nadal 14-7 Federer
Federer = 16 GS, 60 titles, 1 week of Sampras' weeks at no.1 record.
Nadal = 8 GS, 41 titles, Over 60 weeks at no.1?

Actually that's not what he meant...what he meant was that Murray could never possibly lose to Fish if both were playing well. How fit and in-form was Fish during the 3 times he lost to Murray, btw? BTW I'm not arguing that Murray looked fatigued today but the excuse-making and whining is pathetic.

Thanks for the meaningless rundown on stats and record (and including Federer/Nadal breakdown was very illuminating and a nice touch. LOL)

habibko
08-20-2010, 08:41 PM
A fully fit Murray will always beat Fish.
What's so hard to grasp about that?

Murray was fully fit at Miami and Queen's this year.

scoobs
08-20-2010, 08:44 PM
Let's just settle this once and for all.

Andy Murray if he is a) not injured b) not tired from too many matches c) fully confident and not in a career slump d) in a happy mood and e) not being irritated by his shorts, his sweatband, his knee, his cap, his racquet, the balls, the heat, the conditions, the sun, the wind, the crowd, the lights, the umpire, the court surface, the rain....will ALWAYS beat Mardy Fish.

Okay?

Good.

MacTheKnife
08-20-2010, 08:47 PM
A fully fit Murray will always beat Fish.
What's so hard to grasp about that?

Murray was fully fit at Miami and Queen's this year.


:lol: I thought I read that first post wrong.. I see it's typical mtf logic..

ossie
08-20-2010, 08:51 PM
the muzza killer strikes again :haha:

Arakasi
08-20-2010, 08:56 PM
I think Andy has more trouble with Fish's serve(both 1st and 2nd) than with other players

Yes, I've noticed that as well.

I remember in Miami, Fish was hitting aces past Murray on so many occasions on the big points. I was really impressed and it seems his effectiveness on serve wasn't a fluke.

I don't think I've seen Murray have that much trouble with anyone else's serve on tour. Maybe Clydey can tell me otherwise?

DrJules
08-20-2010, 09:02 PM
this was like fed vs berdych last week. if fed lost to berdych 3 times in a row i was ready to write him off. not just for the USO but for good. murray is done now. at least for the USO.

Federer was very near to his own 3 in a row defeat.

Junkyard Racket
08-20-2010, 09:03 PM
A fully fit Murray will always beat Fish.
What's so hard to grasp about that?

Murray was fully fit at Miami and Queen's this year.

:rolls:

FormerRafaFan
08-20-2010, 09:07 PM
I'm glad the Americans are doing well playing on home court. It's been an abysmal year for American tennis, and now wihthout one player inside the Top 10. Hopefully this will lead to better performances also in the future.

Manequin75
08-20-2010, 09:07 PM
andy was exhausted playing all matches in burning heat. I think its good that he lost today. He can get some rest and launch his US open campaign. The guy played pretty good for someone who looked exhausted.

ORGASMATRON
08-20-2010, 09:12 PM
Federer was very near to his own 3 in a row defeat.

exactly.

green25814
08-20-2010, 09:15 PM
exactly.

You are clueless. This loss actually makes Andy winning the US MORE likely.

Yandr001
08-20-2010, 09:17 PM
Things opening up quite nicely for Djokovic

:lol:

tektonac
08-20-2010, 09:19 PM
i think only Fed can stop Murray from winning USO, unless he gets knocked out in the 1st or 2nd round by some inspired player.

MattJon
08-20-2010, 09:20 PM
The celebration from Fish was hilarious. You'd think he'd just won the calendar slam or something, not just barely beating a guy who probably should've retired after the first set.

Get some rest Andy, the US Open is yours to lose.

ORGASMATRON
08-20-2010, 09:21 PM
You are clueless. This loss actually makes Andy winning the US MORE likely.

of course.

green25814
08-20-2010, 09:22 PM
of course.

Believe what you like, but if you check the predictions thread you'll see most of us Murray fans were hoping for a loss. :shrug:

Elena.
08-20-2010, 09:22 PM
Better like this.Some rest for Muzza.He is my fav now to win the Uso this year .

chowdahead25
08-20-2010, 09:25 PM
So great for tennis:worship:

Sillyrabbit
08-20-2010, 09:25 PM
Two masters 1000 before a slam with a one week rest in between is hardly THAT demanding, and it's not like it's never been done. But yeah, a loss was probably better for him than going in deep if he'll continue to play 3 setters.

Roddickominator
08-20-2010, 09:26 PM
Murray will have to hope that he can avoid all the big serving Americans like Querrey, Fish, and Roddick at the USO if he hopes to have any chance to win.

syc23
08-20-2010, 09:35 PM
The celebration from Fish was hilarious. You'd think he'd just won the calendar slam or something, not just barely beating a guy who probably should've retired after the first set.

Get some rest Andy, the US Open is yours to lose.

That's why Fish will fail at the USO (and every slam for that matter), he prides on winning the tourneys outside of majors and gets all big headed only to be slammed back into the ground competing in any of the big 4 majors.

Strategic tank from Nole too - both will be rested and dangerous come USO. Think the same happened to Toad and Berdy - just need Rafa and Fed to do the same.

careergrandslam
08-20-2010, 09:55 PM
He came from 2-4 down, but he should have been down 2-5. Horrendous miss there from the linesperson.

no surprise, cheating linespeople.

Guy Haines
08-20-2010, 09:56 PM
Sometimes you have to fight hard for the loss?

sheva07
08-20-2010, 09:59 PM
Great win for Mardy and good for tennis. Murray was acting like a jerk once again.

Michael Bluth
08-20-2010, 10:00 PM
The guy just beat a top 5 player in a tight third set tiebreak to reach only the third masters semifinal of his career.

He earned the right to celebrate.

MacTheKnife
08-20-2010, 10:05 PM
I liked the celebration. For a second there I thought he was going to throw kisses like agassi used to do. Don't want to see that again. At least the hug thing was a little better. But you're right. The guy has earned the right to stand on his head if he want to..

careergrandslam
08-20-2010, 10:12 PM
The guy just beat a top 5 player in a tight third set tiebreak to reach only the third masters semifinal of his career.

He earned the right to celebrate.

no.

he robbed murray of a cheer from the crowd.

fish and roddick are idiots.

always try to bully the opponent to win, especially that brat roddick.
fish was acting like a clown yelling at murray.

Sonja1989
08-20-2010, 10:13 PM
Congrats Mardy! Good job.

Interesting. Murray def. Gulbis third set 7-6 yesterday, and he lost today 6-7.

born_on_clay
08-20-2010, 10:19 PM
great win for tennis
always good to see mugray losing

born_on_clay
08-20-2010, 10:20 PM
Murray won't win US Open 2010, book it

MalwareDie
08-20-2010, 10:23 PM
Nadal won't win US Open 2010, book it.

born_on_clay
08-20-2010, 10:24 PM
:retard:
Last time I checked, losing in 3, two being very close tiebreaks isn't being schooled :retard:

so, you've checked it wrong :haha:

ORGASMATRON
08-20-2010, 10:24 PM
djokovic wont win US Open 2010. book it.

born_on_clay
08-20-2010, 10:26 PM
Nadal won't win US Open 2010, book it.

what the fuck has Nadal to do with Fish def. Murray thread :confused::o

ossie
08-20-2010, 10:27 PM
murray wont win usopen 2010 book it

born_on_clay
08-20-2010, 10:28 PM
murray wont win usopen 2010 book it

+1

MalwareDie
08-20-2010, 10:28 PM
what the fuck has Nadal to do with Fish def. Murray thread :confused::o

He was in your sig so it was relevant.

Nalbandian won't win US Open 2010, book it.

ORGASMATRON
08-20-2010, 10:31 PM
fed will win USO 2010. book it.

born_on_clay
08-20-2010, 10:32 PM
He was in your sig so it was relevant.

Nalbandian won't win US Open 2010, book it.

:haha:

philosophicalarf
08-20-2010, 10:40 PM
Two masters 1000 before a slam with a one week rest in between is hardly THAT demanding, and it's not like it's never been done.

There's a reason Fed never did it - he came close in 2007 though. Most years he went out early or absent in one.

Dini
08-20-2010, 10:51 PM
IGreat win for Fish again...almost starting to get into Muzza's head now. :tape:


almost? :p

Does anyone have the gif or video of the celebration?

Bilbo
08-20-2010, 10:55 PM
Does anyone have the gif or video of the celebration?

Dini :hug:

dgs9vznLtak

yuri27
08-20-2010, 10:57 PM
To see Pushrray losing is better than having sex with Jessica Alba.

Sham Kay
08-20-2010, 11:00 PM
Well played Fish!

Andy - Rest up champ.

Drugs Ruin Lives
08-20-2010, 11:02 PM
Murriacki fails again :wavey:

Voo de Mar
08-20-2010, 11:07 PM
Fish played beautiful stop-volley at 2:4 but should've been 5:2 for Murray :) BTW, it's Murray's third defeat in career being two points away from victory.

Dini
08-20-2010, 11:14 PM
Danke Bilbo. :D

The handshake... :spit: Fish is playing some really, really good tennis this year. Goodness only knows how he lost the Queen's final. :scratch:

Bilbo
08-20-2010, 11:16 PM
Danke Bilbo. :D

Your German :eek::yeah:

paseo
08-20-2010, 11:23 PM
Things opening up quite nicely for Djokovic

Ahem, you mean Roddick? :D

To see Pushrray losing is better than having sex with Jessica Alba.

NO WAY!!



And, Fish won't win the USO10. Book it.

Roamed
08-20-2010, 11:24 PM
Loved the essay Mardy wrote on the camera at the end! Very happy for him it obviously meant a lot to win. Cold handshake from Muzza :o

Jagermeister
08-20-2010, 11:30 PM
Poor Mardy...he's not even allowed to celebrate according to some capricious twats.

Murray won't win the US Open if he gets into long matches. Best three out of five for 7 matches is tougher when you play Murray's style of tennis.

syc23
08-20-2010, 11:31 PM
To see Pushrray losing is better than having sex with Jessica Alba.

You must be gay admitting this then ;)

Matt01
08-20-2010, 11:35 PM
Get some rest Andy, the US Open is yours to lose.


Yeah right :spit:

delpiero7
08-20-2010, 11:47 PM
Murray got robbed by that wrong call in the TB. I doubt he would have lost the match had he won that point.

Had Murray run out of challenges? If so, then that's bad luck, and he was robbed. If he still had challenges remaining, then why the heck did he carry on playing when the ball was CLEARLY out.

Murray was exhausted in this match, and still only lost by a few points in 3 very tough sets.
A normal, not exhausted Murray would've blown Fish off the court.
He wasn't tired in the other two matches this year, he was just incredibly awful.

My question is why did Murray return to his passive baseline grinding this week when last week he blew away one of the hottest players on tour, the world no. 1 and the GOAT playing excellent attacking tennis and not dropping a set?

If he was tired, then it's criminal that he reverted back to grinding from the baseline, setting himself up for long, punishing points. Especially in the Cincinnati heat. Good riddance that he lost. He showed just last week what he is capable of producing, yet he went back to the grinding. If the attacking tennis was good enough to beat Fed, Nadal and Nalby, would it not be the same against the likes of Gulbis and Fish? I don't understand why he does it. But then again, I'm probably not in the smartest 10% of people on this board, so maybe someone who is could enlighten me.

As for Fish, he volleyed like a god today. I wonder if someone knows if anyone other than Nadal, Djokovic and now Fish has scored 3 consecutive victories over Murray. Rematch at the US Open please :)

swebright
08-20-2010, 11:51 PM
Mardy can play those low volleys very well. Good win. Andy was spent; not fo
it enough + can't handle the heat.

Andi-M
08-21-2010, 12:14 AM
Fish thinks he's some sort of tennis God beating an exhausted Murray...Right...Ok! Fish played very well, but thats all. He is not playing GS champion tennis like he seems to think.

fran70
08-21-2010, 12:17 AM
Great victory for my favourite present US player :worship:. Unfortunately I was unable to watch the whole match but it seems to be that it was a closed match but in the tie break Mardy took his chances and I guess that Murray was quite tired. I would love to hear a neutral opinion ;)

Acer
08-21-2010, 12:29 AM
Fish thinks he's some sort of tennis God beating an exhausted Murray...Right...Ok! Fish played very well, but thats all. He is not playing GS champion tennis like he seems to think.

Neither is Murray :)

straitup
08-21-2010, 12:31 AM
Murray-tards not giving the winner credit :rolleyes: NID

ChinoRios4Ever
08-21-2010, 03:26 AM
Pescado! :worship: