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Cincinnati R2 - [4] Murray def. Chardy 63 67[3] 62.

Serenidad
08-18-2010, 09:22 PM
:D Brands like performance.

misty1
08-18-2010, 09:23 PM
there was a truly horrific patch in the 2nd set involving 6 straight breaks of serve

i think murray held a totla of like 2 times in that second set

born_on_clay
08-18-2010, 09:23 PM
Murray :o

misty1
08-18-2010, 09:25 PM
i dont think murray wins tommorrow against gulbis if he plays like this again

...ofcourse it also depends on how much ernests has left in the tank after his match against melzer today

FMD89
08-18-2010, 09:25 PM
61 unforced errors from chardy and still won a set. :eek: especially 2nd set was like watching a WTA match !

scoobs
08-18-2010, 09:26 PM
Shitty match from Andy from the middle of the second set onwards.

Needs to step it back up again tomorrow.

Blackbriar
08-18-2010, 09:26 PM
Chardy played really well, saving one match point in second set. Murray looks tired, I dont think he can make it to the final. his draw is very open, though.

Voo de Mar
08-18-2010, 09:26 PM
I think it's quite understandable Murray lost second set in a muggish style. His last four sets played in Canada were so tense, ok 6-3 6-4 over Nadal but such a scoreline against Nadal (especially that Nadal had break points in the second part of each set) is like 7-6 7-6 over Blake ;) Anyway good for Gulbis that Murray had to spend on court 40 minutes longer :yeah:

viruzzz
08-18-2010, 09:29 PM
Andy :D
Cool match.

Sophocles
08-18-2010, 09:31 PM
Murray will tank against the Gulbster. And so he should. Doesn't want to be burnt out for the Open.

syc23
08-18-2010, 09:32 PM
Think Murray would be better off tanking the next match to keep himself fresh for USO. Let the others burnout.

Ozone
08-18-2010, 09:32 PM
Brands gets wins unlike the player in your avatar. :wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey:
And his career high ranking proves that..:wavey::wavey::wavey:

Clydey
08-18-2010, 09:33 PM
Typical MTF. You're only as good as your last match.

christallh24
08-18-2010, 09:42 PM
Andy lost a set 6-0 to Monfils! Monfils! He still went on to beat both Rafa and Roger. (Something that seem to be getting easlier to do recently) Anyway, Andy will be fine. He going to be right in the thick of it for the remainder of the season.

green25814
08-18-2010, 09:45 PM
Terrible serving from Murray in the second set, though Chardy did step it up.

I kinda hope he tanks one of his next matches.

The Magician
08-18-2010, 09:51 PM
Typical MTF. You're only as good as your last match.

Actually it's the opposite. Murraytards hyping him up as having learned to play aggressively and being the favorite for the USO, when this match showed he still hasn't learned anything and will never be the aggressive player he needs to be to win a slam.

Murray was lucky to escape, he was so set on losing that 2nd he kept giving the break back and getting it handed to him over and over again. Shouldn't be so lucky against Gulbis, nor should he be. A player should not make deep into masters/GS playing that kind of tennis.

Serenidad
08-18-2010, 09:54 PM
Actually it's the opposite. Murraytards hyping him up as having learned to play aggressively and being the favorite for the USO, when this match showed he still hasn't learned anything and will never be the aggressive player he needs to be to win a slam.

Murray was lucky to escape, he was so set on losing that 2nd he kept giving the break back and getting it handed to him over and over again. Shouldn't be so lucky against Gulbis, nor should he be. A player should not make deep into masters/GS playing that kind of tennis.

oh it's a good thing Santoro never achieved that much then. It would have been a travesty and an insult to tennis.

decrepitude
08-18-2010, 09:55 PM
Murraytards hyping him up
I think there is only one Murraytard hyping him up these days, it's just that he posts so much if feels like hundreds. . . Most of us keep very quiet at the moment!

The Magician
08-18-2010, 09:57 PM
oh it's a good thing Santoro never achieved that much then. It would have been a travesty and an insult to tennis.
Actually Santoro played in the most grand slams (70) over 4 decades (both records) so go back to spazzing out about Brands and supporting this clown Muggay :wavey:
I think there is only one Murraytard hyping him up these days, it's just that he posts so much if feels like hundreds. . . Most of us keep very quiet at the moment!
fair enough :lol:

CooCooCachoo
08-18-2010, 09:58 PM
:sobbing: Jérémy. This was his chance to take out a Top 4 player, I think.

Serenidad
08-18-2010, 09:58 PM
Actually Santoro played in the most grand slams (70) over 4 decades (both records) so go back to spazzing out about Brands and supporting this clown Muggay :wavey:

Yes but he never played aggressively, so he never deserved to make deep GS and M1000 runs according to you.

Brands. :inlove: Murray :hearts:

Clydey
08-18-2010, 09:59 PM
Actually it's the opposite. Murraytards hyping him up as having learned to play aggressively and being the favorite for the USO, when this match showed he still hasn't learned anything and will never be the aggressive player he needs to be to win a slam.

Murray was lucky to escape, he was so set on losing that 2nd he kept giving the break back and getting it handed to him over and over again. Shouldn't be so lucky against Gulbis, nor should he be. A player should not make deep into masters/GS playing that kind of tennis.

He was playing Chardy. Aggression wasn't the order of the day. Keeping the ball deep was more important, and he failed to do that in set 2.

The Magician
08-18-2010, 10:00 PM
:sobbing: Jérémy. This was his chance to take out a Top 4 player, I think.

Your avatar is a pretty good summary of Chardy's career :lol::o

The Magician
08-18-2010, 10:04 PM
He was playing Chardy. Aggression wasn't the order of the day. Keeping the ball deep was more important, and he failed to do that in set 2.

Not only couldn't he get the ball deep, he couldn't serve, couldn't return, and couldn't keep the ball in the court for long. Giving up a game is a bad habit some players have, but giving up an entire set is more than a habit, it's a fatal flaw. It's remarkable Murray has done as well as he has, given that every tournament he has at least one hilariously muggy match :o

The Magician
08-18-2010, 10:07 PM
Yes but he never played aggressively, so he never deserved to make deep GS and M1000 runs according to you.

Brands. :inlove: Murray :hearts:

Actually Santoro had some of the best volleys of all time, and played as aggressively as his game would allow. Also he was enjoyable for everyone to watch and was loved by the other players. Murray is 6'3, extremely strong and talented, and handed a silver spoon because he's British, and yet all he does is meekly push the ball, grumble and whine on court, and serve/volley once a blue moon :o What really bothers me about Murray is not that he sucks (he does) but that he has the capability to not suck and shows it against Nadal only.

Sham Kay
08-18-2010, 10:10 PM
Eh. Even Fed and Nadal have muggy matches. Everyone in the top 10 does, the point is they win more often than not. Not their problem that their opponents cant take advantage.

Also only one or two Murray fans have been saying he's favourite for USO. One of the favourites, yes, but favourite? Hell no.

Andi-M
08-18-2010, 10:12 PM
I don't think Muray played this bad on purpose I don't think he has practiced very much on these courts and was having trouble with his timing. His FH was not cutting it today , but im pretty sure its just tiredness and lack of practice on these courts.

I dont think he should tank Vs Gulbis I think he should try to win every match he plays, as he obviously will. Points are still important, needs to hang onto no 4 despite Soda having a really tough draw this week he is still capable of winning the tournament.

syc23
08-18-2010, 10:15 PM
Actually Santoro had some of the best volleys of all time, and played as aggressively as his game would allow. Also he was enjoyable for everyone to watch and was loved by the other players. Murray is 6'3, extremely strong and talented, and handed a silver spoon because he's British, and yet all he does is meekly push the ball, grumble and whine on court, and serve/volley once a blue moon :o What really bothers me about Murray is not that he sucks (he does) but that he has the capability to not suck and shows it against Nadal only.

Certainly works for him and $12million earned so far that can't be too bad.

What have you done in your 'career' so far then you muppet??:rolleyes:

angry1
08-18-2010, 10:16 PM
I don't think Muray played this bad on purpose I don't think he has practiced very much on these courts and was having trouble with his timing. His FH was not cutting it today , but im pretty sure its just tiredness and lack of practice on these courts.

I dont think he should tank Vs Gulbis I think he should try to win every match he plays, as he obviously will. Points are still important, needs to hang onto no 4 despite Soda having a really tough draw this week he is still capable of winning the tournament.

What if Hewitt beats Soderling?

I rarely think players should tank and don't think he will,but once nr4 is secured he's got more to lose than gain by going deep IMO.Another display like today's and he shouldn't need to tank.

CooCooCachoo
08-18-2010, 10:25 PM
Your avatar is a pretty good summary of Chardy's career :lol::o

The question is whether it is worthwhile to summarise the career of a player who is still very much maturing :p

christallh24
08-18-2010, 10:26 PM
Certainly works for him and $12million earned so far that can't be too bad.

What have you done in your 'career' so far then you muppet??:rolleyes:

:lol: :yeah:

The Magician
08-18-2010, 10:27 PM
Murray isn't going to tank :haha: He may get completely destroyed by Gulbis but it won't be in his hands, Gulbis is too powerful. Murray isn't at a stage of his career where he should be tanking MS events anyway, since he has a total of 0 slams :o This is almost as bad as the retroactive injury excuses Nadaltards use to justify every loss.

Serenidad
08-18-2010, 10:28 PM
Murray isn't going to tank :haha: He may get completely destroyed by Gulbis but it won't be in his hands, Gulbis is too powerful. Murray isn't at a stage of his career where he should be tanking MS events anyway, since he has a total of 0 slams :o This is almost as bad as the retroactive injury excuses Nadaltards use to justify every loss.

Somehow should check that H2H and watch their previous matches.

Andi-M
08-18-2010, 10:33 PM
What if Hewitt beats Soderling?

I rarely think players should tank and don't think he will,but once nr4 is secured he's got more to lose than gain by going deep IMO.Another display like today's and he shouldn't need to tank.

If Hewitt beats Sod Andy is fine. Difference is around 500 points I think.

Sapeod
08-18-2010, 10:41 PM
Murray :o
:retard:
He lost a set 6-0 to Monfils, and went on to pulverize your idol and beat Federer to take the Toronto title.
So, I don't think losing a set 7-6 to Chardy is going to harm him in any way :wavey:
So Brands pushes?
Murray wasn't pushing, you fool :wavey:
And his career high ranking proves that..:wavey::wavey::wavey:
Denis Istomin def. James Blake 6-3 6-0 :wavey: :retard:
Blake should retire :wavey:
Brands is the worse top 100 player of all time.
That award goes to Somdev Devvarman.

straitup
08-18-2010, 10:43 PM
Well this was looking rather routine, I left, and he lost the second set? Not super impressive, still needs to stop having those lapses

angry1
08-18-2010, 10:56 PM
If Hewitt beats Sod Andy is fine. Difference is around 500 points I think.

Sorry I wasn't clear,I meant would that safety change your view as to whether he should tank or not.

decrepitude
08-18-2010, 11:01 PM
I don't think tanking is in Murray's dictionary, he would want to win at a game of noughts and crosses.

angry1
08-18-2010, 11:08 PM
I don't think tanking is in Murray's dictionary, he would want to win at a game of noughts and crosses.

I agree he won't,I was just indulging in idle speculation as to whether he should.

Sorry if I've again answered when not being addressed.

Filo V.
08-18-2010, 11:11 PM
Andy played too defensively in the first two sets, and allowed Chardy to dictate too much. Chardy was missing most of the time, but he started getting hot towards the end of the second set and won it. Andy stepped it up after Chardy took an injury timeout in the third. It was a pretty much identical type of performance as against Monfils last week, but he can't afford to have these types of lapses if he wants to win the US Open.

decrepitude
08-18-2010, 11:12 PM
Angry1 - Oh, I agree. I think he *should* (if any player ever should, which is a different argument) if he wants to have a good shot at the USO. But I don't think he will.

~*BGT*~
08-18-2010, 11:29 PM
JimChar :sad:

roberthenman
08-18-2010, 11:34 PM
Come ON Andy take the title :rocker:

FlameOn
08-19-2010, 01:24 AM
Chardy. :sad::hug: Well done for taking a set off the Monteal champ. :hug:

Huntress555
08-19-2010, 01:42 AM
Andy :)

Blackbriar
08-19-2010, 10:10 AM
Murray, Nadal, Djokovic. What separate these 3 Great Champions from the rest is their willpower. They never, ever give up. They keep fighting, fighting, even if all the odds are against them, even injured, with 2 sets down, they won't give you the match. That's the key to be a champion IMO.

gusavo
08-19-2010, 10:21 PM
Also only one or two Murray fans have been saying he's favourite for USO. One of the favourites, yes, but favourite? Hell no.
oh, proof?