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Cincy R2: Nadal def. Dent 6-2 7-5

Arkulari
08-18-2010, 06:46 PM
http://i33.tinypic.com/2upzewy.jpg

Rafa didn't need to play his best against Dent, just put his foot on the gas when it was needed ;)

ImmzB
08-18-2010, 06:47 PM
Vamos Rafa!! :yeah:

Surcouf
08-18-2010, 06:47 PM
Nadal was atrocious. One of his worst display of all time. He made some Federer like errors.

born_on_clay
08-18-2010, 06:47 PM
184th Masters 1000 win :bowdown:

Priam
08-18-2010, 06:47 PM
Subpar performance from Rafa. Dent 21 UEs in the first set, but led 4-2 in the second. Needs to step it up.

R3 vs Julien.

samanosuke
08-18-2010, 06:49 PM
Dent has awful serve placement . Somebody else with his serve speed would be unbreakable

FormerRafaFan
08-18-2010, 06:49 PM
WTF happened in the second set? Embarrassing from Rafa when he actually played quite well in the first set.

Oh well, not surprising if you're a fan. He ALWAYS plays badly in the early rounds, especially on HC. At least he won, which is the most important thing. He also avoided a third set, which is good.

He needs to improve though. This is not good enough if he wants to win the tournament, let alone USO.

Edit: not enough winners, too many EU's. And what about aces? Not ONE from Rafa? Sucks. He's supposed to be the best player in the world, and he can't even produce one ace when he plays a fat guy ranked around #100? Really?!?! :haha:

Ozone
08-18-2010, 06:49 PM
You mean "Nadal outmugs Dent 62 75"
Horrifying stuff. Nadal is looking like he will keep his New York success going at the USO at this rate

Ozone
08-18-2010, 06:49 PM
Oh and Dent dropped a 149 mph bomb

dombrfc
08-18-2010, 06:51 PM
Good in parts from Dent. The 149mph missile being the highlight of the match.
Rafa not impressive here, dont let anyone kid you otherwise.

Ben.
08-18-2010, 06:52 PM
Glad Dent was able to recover from the first and make the second set competitive. Also glad Rafa rescued the second set, didn't need to be playing three sets today. The nature of the first set, with Dent making so many errors, stopped Rafa from ever getting going today. But with each passing match that he doesn't show some kind of consistant form I worry a bit more for his USO chances.

straitup
08-18-2010, 06:52 PM
12 winners from Rafa... :o He didn't need to do much, but I really wasn't thinking Dent would actually be up a break in the second set. He's got work to do and his movement looks so awkward to me

careergrandslam
08-18-2010, 06:53 PM
watching nadal on hardcourts makes me ask myself why on earth am i a fan of this guy.
rafa is awful, horrible, abysmal, disgusting, shameful and clueless on hardcourts, especially the ultra fast cincy and USO courts.

rafa's record at cincy is won 10 matches and lost 6.
:haha:

can someone please tell him to stop playing after wimbledon, because he is an embarrassment on fast hardcourts.

i missed alot of work to watch this bullsh*t from rafa.

that francisco roig coach must be the worst coach ever, and nadal will never win a title if he wears a pink shirt.

Voo de Mar
08-18-2010, 06:54 PM
Nadal didn't bother too much at 2:4 in the second set. How many options there was? 6-2 7-5 or 6-2 7-6 or 6-2 3-6 6-3. Nadal must have been stoned to lose to Dent :o

careergrandslam
08-18-2010, 06:56 PM
and 0 aces from rafa is humiliating for a world number 1 against some fat club player.

ORGASMATRON
08-18-2010, 06:56 PM
amazing play from nadal. he will be hard to stop that for sure.

FormerRafaFan
08-18-2010, 06:57 PM
watching nadal on hardcourts makes me ask myself why on earth am i a fan of this guy.
rafa is awful, horrible, abysmal, disgusting, shameful and clueless on hardcourts, especially the ultra fast cincy and USO courts.

I hate to admit it, but +1.

This is coming from a fan of his. He HAS to improve his play on HC. This is simply not good enough. He doesn't stand a chance winning USO playing like this.. And yeah, his coach is a joke if he can't get Nadal to at least improve his game at least some whenever he plays on HC.

green25814
08-18-2010, 06:57 PM
This was a very disappointing performance from Dent.

He made a tactical blunder in the first set, trying to play baseline with Nadal, didn't come to the net at all. He played better in the second set, and should definitely have taken it, but then threw away the break.

Sham Kay
08-18-2010, 06:59 PM
Not very well played by Rafa. The point is though, as per usual he won. Pretty comfortably too, he'll definately improve as the tournament goes on.

Surcouf
08-18-2010, 07:01 PM
I hate to admit it, but +1.

This is coming from a fan of his. He HAS to improve his play on HC. This is simply not good enough. He doesn't stand a chance winning USO playing like this.. And yeah, his coach is a joke if he can't get Nadal to at least improve his game at least some whenever he plays on HC.

Are you serious? What's the relation between his level of play and the courts? Don't kid yourself, Nadal game is off, and it's unrelated to the surface. Nadal missed so many easy shots, that has nothing to do with hardcourts.

You are not a fan if you don't know that.

rafa_maniac
08-18-2010, 07:01 PM
Meh, Nadal was fine. First match against an opponent who blew hot and cold, he just put the foot down a bit when in trouble and at the finish line but didn't need to do much. His fans should just accept that his average level of play on fast HCs isn't that great and it's only when he's at his optimum level that he comes out a winner (Olympics).

Surcouf
08-18-2010, 07:02 PM
This was a very disappointing performance from Dent.

He made a tactical blunder in the first set, trying to play baseline with Nadal, didn't come to the net at all. He played better in the second set, and should definitely have taken it, but then threw away the break.

That's completely wrong. Dent was much more offensive in the first set but was missing everything. He was more patient in the second and waited more as Nadal was making some ridiculous errors.

green25814
08-18-2010, 07:03 PM
That's completely wrong. Dent was much more offensive in the first set but was missing everything. He was more patient in the second and waited more as Nadal was making some ridiculous errors.

You kidding? He barely came to the net once. He was missing everything of the ground in the first set.

Dent at his best would've taken this into a third, Nadal is lucky imo.

finn98
08-18-2010, 07:03 PM
watching nadal on hardcourts makes me ask myself why on earth am i a fan of this guy.
rafa is awful, horrible, abysmal, disgusting, shameful and clueless on hardcourts, especially the ultra fast cincy and USO courts.

rafa's record at cincy is won 10 matches and lost 6.
:haha:

can someone please tell him to stop playing after wimbledon, because he is an embarrassment on fast hardcourts.

i missed alot of work to watch this bullsh*t from rafa.

that francisco roig coach must be the worst coach ever, and nadal will never win a title if he wears a pink shirt.

As if Toni Nadal is any better..Nadal should understand Tennis is NOT a family business..and I hate it that he keeps everything with in the family. :o
He needs to hire a good coach(a non spaniard) to have competent success at HC slams..
He should've let Toni go back in 2007 when Toni decided to leave..:o

MIMIC
08-18-2010, 07:05 PM
Dent with 40 unforced errors :worship:

Surcouf
08-18-2010, 07:05 PM
You kidding? He barely came to the net once. He was missing everything of the ground in the first set.

Dent at his best would've taken this into a third, Nadal is lucky imo.

Nadal is lucky that his own game was so off today? You are quite ridiculous here. Dent made a lot of approach in the first but was missing every volley because he was too fat to flex his knee. That was awful to watch?

Johnny Groove
08-18-2010, 07:08 PM
Nadal needs to improve vs. Benneteau if he wants to beat Berdych/Baggy.

kindling
08-18-2010, 07:09 PM
If Dent could just keep the damn ball in!!!! He might have a chance.

green25814
08-18-2010, 07:10 PM
Nadal is lucky that his own game was so off today? You are quite ridiculous here. Dent made a lot of approach in the first but was missing every volley because he was too fat to flex his knee. That was awful to watch?

Dent had an off day. He was making those volleys easily yesterday, hence why Nadal was lucky. 'Fat' = bullshit, the guys come back from serious back injuries, its hardly surprising he's not in peak physical health.

90/100 Dent would've held serve to take the second set in that situation, hence why Rafa is lucky.

tribalfusion
08-18-2010, 07:11 PM
watching nadal on hardcourts makes me ask myself why on earth am i a fan of this guy

I can help with that: you aren't.

tribalfusion
08-18-2010, 07:13 PM
and 0 aces from rafa is humiliating for a world number 1 against some fat club player.

Who serves 150 mph...what club do you play at?

ORGASMATRON
08-18-2010, 07:17 PM
Nadal needs to improve vs. Benneteau if he wants to beat Berdych/Baggy.

id love to see berdych vs nadal on these courts.

CCBH
08-18-2010, 07:18 PM
I hate to admit it, but +1.

This is coming from a fan of his. He HAS to improve his play on HC. This is simply not good enough. He doesn't stand a chance winning USO playing like this.. And yeah, his coach is a joke if he can't get Nadal to at least improve his game at least some whenever he plays on HC.

I think you're overreacting. I watched his matches at Toronto, and he was just terrible with his timing. You never see him miss that many crosscourt backhands, and sometimes he was hitting forehands too early??!! He was NOT losing because he was being rushed/overpowered. I agree that he needs to be more focused on the fast courts, like he admitted recently.

IMO, when he is playing well, he gets the mixture of offense (i.e. great depth, width and positioning, even sufficient pace) and defense right on HCs. Face it, he will NEVER play like a ballbasher, his game is to play high-percentage rallies to open up the court and out-maneuver his opponent.

Eden
08-18-2010, 07:19 PM
Nadal needs to improve vs. Benneteau if he wants to beat Berdych/Baggy.

You are a fan of him long enough to know hat he will do this ;)

Seems that Rafa is meanwhile exactly at a point where Roger was in his career: He set the standards so high that people not only expect a victory every time, but also a great play.

He got the job done and won in 2 sets, what more do people ask for? He will get better with each round just like he always does in tournaments.

CCBH
08-18-2010, 07:20 PM
Who serves 150 mph...what club do you play at?

:lol: Exactly...

The Magician
08-18-2010, 07:24 PM
Nadull :haha: I can't wait for the USO :aparty::devil:

careergrandslam
08-18-2010, 07:27 PM
Who serves 150 mph...what club do you play at?

any mug can hit the ball as hard as u can.

jcempire
08-18-2010, 07:37 PM
That was easy

madmax
08-18-2010, 07:48 PM
that was some marvelous stuff from World Nr.1:bowdown: He'll trully be undeniable at the Flushing Meadows

FormerRafaFan
08-18-2010, 07:52 PM
that was some marvelous stuff from World Nr.1:bowdown: He'll trully be undeniable at the Flushing Meadows

LOL, with a whole lot of UE's, very few winners and not ONE ace? Do you really think that is good? I think it's mediocre, and that Nadal can do better, and should do better in USO to be able to win it.

Luinir
08-18-2010, 07:54 PM
nadal will win cincinnati, mark my words.

Voo de Mar
08-18-2010, 08:01 PM
LOL, with a whole lot of UE's, very few winners and not ONE ace? Do you really think that is good? I think it's mediocre, and that Nadal can do better, and should do better in USO to be able to win it.

Look at it from a different perspective. What's the point for Nadal to give his best against a fatty like Dent who is going to serve a couple double faults in the crucial moments anyway? Nadal won't be 18 or 19 anymore when he was concentrated on each point no matter who was he playing with. He is still able to do that but not against joke opponents like Dent.

Useless match.

Guy Haines
08-18-2010, 08:08 PM
Look at it from a different perspective. What's the point for Nadal to give his best against a fatty like Dent who is going to serve a couple double faults in the crucial moments anyway? Nadal won't be 18 or 19 anymore when he was concentrated on each point no matter who was he playing with. He is still able to do that but not against joke opponents like Dent.

Useless match.

Pretty much all of his matches before the USO are useless in terms of definitely gauging his chances. It'll be the first few rounds that'll show whether he's a contender. I'm leaning towards no, but not counting him out.

At the 09 Australian he was dialed in from the first round a way that he hasn't been at other hard court majors. Other players (on the women's side no less) were calling him as the winner near the start of the tournament because of it.

So far he hasn't shown signs of anything like that in North America.

cuteasiangirl
08-18-2010, 08:33 PM
I can help with that: you aren't.

This!

Horatio Caine
08-18-2010, 08:39 PM
Pleasantly surprised that Dent produced a respectable scoreline. I saw a quote from him saying that he would be going for his serve etc...considering his recent rashes of double faults I feared a little for him there. :tape: But obviously he had to take the game to Rafa so there wasn't much else he could prepare to do.

allpro
08-18-2010, 09:03 PM
nadal is nowhere near his hc form from doha in january. he should watch tape of his donkeydenko match - particularly the first set.

dent looks like a chunky monkey. he needs to shed about 20 lbs.

christallh24
08-18-2010, 09:07 PM
I didn't get to see the match, but I'm glad he got it done.

He set the standards so high that people not only expect a victory every time, but also a great play.

Not me. And especially on a surface unfavorable to him.
Nadull :haha: I can't wait for the USO :aparty::devil:

:rolleyes: We all have our small and petty moments. But you've more than most.

Manequin75
08-18-2010, 09:18 PM
rafa will begin peaking in the US open and by QF stage he will be playing RN tennis. No need for him to strain an abdominal muscle or something here. He will find his serve and range in his shots soon enough. That you can be sure. He is currently getting bad matches out of his system. The important thing being he finds ways to win the matches he is expected to win anyway.

He will play better this summer. And then we will see who is the last man standing. :wavey:

Adios

Manequin75
08-18-2010, 09:24 PM
watching nadal on hardcourts makes me ask myself why on earth am i a fan of this guy.
rafa is awful, horrible, abysmal, disgusting, shameful and clueless on hardcourts, especially the ultra fast cincy and USO courts.

rafa's record at cincy is won 10 matches and lost 6.
:haha:

can someone please tell him to stop playing after wimbledon, because he is an embarrassment on fast hardcourts.

i missed alot of work to watch this bullsh*t from rafa.

that francisco roig coach must be the worst coach ever, and nadal will never win a title if he wears a pink shirt.


give up on Rafa dude and move on. Jump on the Andy Murray bandwagon. And then you can bloat when he wins. A fan has no right to crib over his hero if he sees him genuinely trying to tinker his game and put in an effort to strike form on his worst surface. Rafa gives his fans 100% every single time. You my dear should move on.

Hop back on in september when Rafa will be seen firing on all cylinders in New York. :wavey:

Leave a struggling Rafa now to his real fans. We accept him and have gotten more from him than we deserve already.

paseo
08-18-2010, 09:44 PM
Leave a struggling Rafa now to his real fans.

Struggling? He just won his match in straight sets. He doesn't have to play his best all the time. He's holding 2 GS and 3 MS and world #1, it's not like he's losing 2nd/3rd rounds. He made SF last week and only lost to the eventual champion. Hardly struggling.

christallh24
08-18-2010, 10:05 PM
I've been a fan of Rafael and Novak since '05/'06. There are times when [b]every[b] gets fed up or frustrated. I know I've had my moments, too, when I've whined a wonder of why I'm a fan of this athlete/team? There are times when I wished I could be a Yankees or Roger Federer fan. After all, it's easier to be a fan of a winning athlete or team. My faves tennis player is Rafa and my fave baseball team are the Tampa Bay Rays. The are tied with the Evil Ones, but they or Rafa rarely win so easy or effortlessly that it just as stressful as seeing them lose. Sometimes it's just no fun being a fan of who you are.

The Magician
08-18-2010, 10:11 PM
Pretty embarrassing when Rafa shanks shots. Unlike Roger he has a pretty big racket head and gets a lot more margin on his shots than anyone in the game. It's not looking good for the rest of the year for him:devil:

Certinfy
08-18-2010, 10:14 PM
I like Berdy's chances if they play.

christallh24
08-18-2010, 10:18 PM
It's not looking good for the rest of the year for him:devil:

It's okay. Rafael has had a better one than player in your sig. :o:devil:

The Magician
08-18-2010, 10:33 PM
It's okay. Rafael has had a better one than player in your sig. :o:devil:

Roger is peaking for the USO, and I'm confident he will win. When that happens Roger will have a better year because 2 HC GS > 2 Clay GS and clay MM :wavey:

Andre'sNo1Fan
08-18-2010, 10:35 PM
Roger is peaking for the USO, and I'm confident he will win. When that happens Roger will have a better year because 2 HC GS > 2 Clay GS and clay MM :wavey:
Erm whys that? Because clay is not a tennis surface?? And I'm sure you'd be raving for forever and a day if Federer won Wimbeldon.

Get a grip.

christallh24
08-18-2010, 10:50 PM
When that happens Roger will have a better year because 2 HC GS > 2 Clay GS and clay MM :wavey:

:rolls: Bullshit.:wavey:

Erm whys that? Because clay is not a tennis surface?? And I'm sure you'd be raving for forever and a day if Federer won Wimbeldon.

Get a grip.

Would Madumb be raving had Roger not crashed out of RG and Wimbledon in the qf's? Well, of course.

The Magician
08-18-2010, 10:54 PM
Erm whys that? Because clay is not a tennis surface?? And I'm sure you'd be raving for forever and a day if Federer won Wimbeldon.

Get a grip.

Let's be honest, clay competition is nonexistant, and HC grand slams are when every player peaks. Winning the AO is especially impressive because every player is fresh and every year a new player has a hot streak of form. At the moment I will admit Nadal has had a better year than Fed, but it's a lot closer than you think and if Fed wins USO it won;t be close.

Andre'sNo1Fan
08-18-2010, 10:59 PM
Let's be honest, clay competition is nonexistant, and HC grand slams are when every player peaks. Winning the AO is especially impressive because every player is fresh and every year a new player has a hot streak of form. At the moment I will admit Nadal has had a better year than Fed, but it's a lot closer than you think and if Fed wins USO it won;t be close.
You haven't even commented on Wimbeldon. I guess you haven't got an answer to that one when you know its true. Federer has won 6 are you going to devalue those?

Players don't peak for any particular slam, they just peak for every slam. Its not Nadal's problem if most players don't have patience or fitness to play on clay either.

Surcouf
08-18-2010, 11:01 PM
Let's be honest, clay competition is nonexistant, and HC grand slams are when every player peaks. Winning the AO is especially impressive because every player is fresh and every year a new player has a hot streak of form. At the moment I will admit Nadal has had a better year than Fed, but it's a lot closer than you think and if Fed wins USO it won;t be close.

Roland Garros + Wimbledon > anything Federer can do from now

Plus Nadal has the number one rankings locked. So you just look like a pathetic fanboy who is in denial. I am watching for your tears when Nadal will be named player of the year. It's just so obvious. :D

M4RC
08-18-2010, 11:28 PM
At the moment I will admit Nadal has had a better year than Fed, but it's a lot closer than you think and if Fed wins USO it won;t be close.

:haha: You are the Ultra Clown.

Clay Slam (first ever to win 3M1000 + RG consecutively) + Wimbledon + year-end #1 > your pathetic trolling attempts.

You suck big time.

The Magician
08-18-2010, 11:29 PM
You haven't even commented on Wimbeldon. I guess you haven't got an answer to that one when you know its true. Federer has won 6 are you going to devalue those?

Players don't peak for any particular slam, they just peak for every slam. Its not Nadal's problem if most players don't have patience or fitness to play on clay either.

I did comment on it but it was subtle, I called RG/W double the 2 clay slams. Competition on "grass" is even worse than clay, and the only reason the double gets any respect is because in the past it was difficult. AO/USO double is much more difficult, and arguably TMC is as difficult as RG. Fed has plenty of time to save his year while Nadal is done.

Andre'sNo1Fan
08-18-2010, 11:31 PM
I did comment on it but it was subtle, I called RG/W double the 2 clay slams. Competition on "grass" is even worse than clay, and the only reason the double gets any respect is because in the past it was difficult. AO/USO double is much more difficult, and arguably TMC is as difficult as RG. Fed has plenty of time to save his year while Nadal is done.
LOL. I guess Stevie Wonder knows alot more about tennis than you ever will even by never even seeing a ball being hit.

End.

straitup
08-18-2010, 11:36 PM
I did comment on it but it was subtle, I called RG/W double the 2 clay slams. Competition on "grass" is even worse than clay, and the only reason the double gets any respect is because in the past it was difficult. AO/USO double is much more difficult, and arguably TMC is as difficult as RG. Fed has plenty of time to save his year while Nadal is done.

I understand you're trying to make Federer sound better, but in fact you're making his achievements sound worse by trashing on Roland Garros and Wimbledon

The Magician
08-18-2010, 11:50 PM
I understand you're trying to make Federer sound better, but in fact you're making his achievements sound worse by trashing on Roland Garros and Wimbledon

I guess. I consider Fed's 5 USO in a row much more impressive than his 5 Wimbledons, though I think beating Roddick and Philliphousis much harder than beating monoFed and Bird Shit :lol: Wimbledon is given much more importance than it deserves because of British press, and even in the 90s when the grass was fast winning Wimbledon was not as impressive as winning the USO.

Guy Haines
08-19-2010, 12:24 AM
The Mugician Trolls Again.

Sauletekis
08-19-2010, 12:45 AM
Is this Mugician real? Still can't believe that a human being with a brain, can say so BS like that and posted so everyone can see...

But well, i'm still surprised about the fact that some Dimitrard came here and say that the 3 futures win of Grigor is more important that 2 GS + 3 MS...

Guy Haines
08-19-2010, 12:48 AM
Is this Mugician real? Still can't believe that a human being with a brain, can say so BS like that and posted so everyone can see...

But well, i'm still surprised about the fact that some Dimitrimug came here and say that the 3 futures win of Grigor is more important that 2 GS + 3 MS...

Welcome to MTF :hatoff:

Sauletekis
08-19-2010, 12:54 AM
Welcome to MTF :hatoff:

I'm kind of new here, but in this 4 months i'm getting to know how this works, and what kind of people there are here... Always the same, don't know i even bother to reply to some sh*t that some "tennis experts" say here. Some people don't love tennis. Just like to hate some players and doesn't respect (or know) what is good tennis...

Arkulari
08-19-2010, 01:00 AM
what the hell? come on Magician, you might not like Rafa but this is embarrassing :o

Huntress555
08-19-2010, 01:58 AM
Rafa :yeah:

Mimi
08-19-2010, 07:47 AM
LOL, with a whole lot of UE's, very few winners and not ONE ace? Do you really think that is good? I think it's mediocre, and that Nadal can do better, and should do better in USO to be able to win it.

don't be fooled by Madmax, he is a pure hater of rafa

NYCtennisfan
08-19-2010, 07:55 AM
I hate to admit it, but +1.

This is coming from a fan of his. He HAS to improve his play on HC. This is simply not good enough. He doesn't stand a chance winning USO playing like this.. And yeah, his coach is a joke if he can't get Nadal to at least improve his game at least some whenever he plays on HC.

It was surprising that Dent broke Nadal, and perhaps Nadal didn't play all that well, but he knew that he didn't have to.

As for not standing a chance to win the USO, it's simply not true. Somebody will have to beat him over a best of 5 sets match, basically meaning that they will have to hit him off of the court. Nadal will not give anybody anything and will take the smallest momentum swing and carry it for a set and a half like he almost always does. He'll be there in the latter stages and it's going to take a great effort from another player to defeat him.

borracho
08-19-2010, 08:28 AM
Analyzing this match is useless. But if Dent can break Nadal's serve then I can too!

@Sweet Cleopatra
08-19-2010, 09:27 AM
As if Toni Nadal is any better..Nadal should understand Tennis is NOT a family business..and I hate it that he keeps everything with in the family. :o
He needs to hire a good coach(a non spaniard) to have competent success at HC slams..
He should've let Toni go back in 2007 when Toni decided to leave..:o

Toni is the best couch.

Matt01
08-19-2010, 11:46 AM
The Magician :haha:

Mimi
08-19-2010, 11:55 AM
The Magician :haha:

he should get marry with either Madmax or Fairweatherfan:inlove::couple:

Singularity
08-19-2010, 12:04 PM
I guess. I consider Fed's 5 USO in a row much more impressive than his 5 Wimbledons, though I think beating Roddick and Philliphousis much harder than beating monoFed and Bird Shit :lol:
So you're saying that it's easier to beat Federer on grass than it was to beat Roddick and Philliphousis. Federer didn't have mono when Nadal beat him in 08, and played a worse match in the 09 final.

finn98
08-19-2010, 12:06 PM
Toni is the best coach.

I disagree. Toni is a great Father figure and disciplinarian.
HE is responsible for all the great qualities Rafa now stands for. But Coaching wise..I feel there is a lot to be desired. Fans are duped into false sense of "improvement on HC" due to AO 09 win. But the present Nadal is just 10% different from 2005 Nadal. Every improvement including serve were bound to happen in time...its not like Toni's coaching had any effect..? :)

Persimmon
08-19-2010, 03:45 PM
Rafa on HC:inlove::hearts:

Sophocles
08-19-2010, 04:20 PM
Federer didn't have mono when Nadal beat him in 08, and played a worse match in the 09 final.

He didn't have mono & he did play better than he would in next year's final (not that that's saying much), BUT the mono meant he couldn't do his usual training routine between Australia & Dubai, which he basically uses to set himself up for the rest of the season.