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Who is the worst talent of the top 100?

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Everko
08-17-2010, 09:15 PM
I am talking worst talented wise, not where they are ranked right now. Who is the least worthy of a top 100 ranking?

Arkulari
08-17-2010, 09:18 PM
Hajek or Kamke

Stan is actually pretty talented, just that he's not mentally strong

Certinfy
08-17-2010, 09:18 PM
Rafael Nadal.

Guy Haines
08-17-2010, 09:21 PM
Rafael Nadal.
Rivetingly original.

Sonja1989
08-17-2010, 09:22 PM
Russell. He is very old player, but he was never in top 50.

Everko
08-17-2010, 09:23 PM
Rafael Nadal.

I thought about putting Federer in the poll to stir the pot, but I didn't want to be that dumb.

Certinfy
08-17-2010, 09:24 PM
I thought about putting Federer in the poll to stir the pot, but I didn't want to be that dumb.
Why? Because Federer is more talented than Nadal?

Everko
08-17-2010, 09:25 PM
Why? Because Federer is more talented than Nadal?

jumped over the panama canal to that logic point No I did not say that

misty1
08-17-2010, 09:26 PM
none of those really are the worst

when he's inside it..and for the small time that he was somdev devvarman was easily the worst

as it is right now? michal przysiezny

ApproachShot
08-17-2010, 09:27 PM
Firstly, everyone in the top 100 must have had a considerable degree of talent to even make it that far. Though I agree that at the top of the game some are clearly more talented than others, the rankings are a product of not talent alone but to a large extent the hard work (traning and practice) and to a lesser extent luck (with injuries, good draws etc).

Secondly, it is beyond me how Wawrinka can be included in this poll. Watch some clips of his backhand and if you do not deem that to be talent then your standards must be astronomical.

madmax
08-17-2010, 09:31 PM
I've seen Hajek playing once and boy, was he horrible...but dude must be doing something right to be in TOP 100, just like all the other pals.

scarecrows
08-17-2010, 09:32 PM
Russell. He is very old player, but he was never in top 50.

maybe coz he has been more sidelined because of injuries than playing?

Montego
08-17-2010, 09:33 PM
Daniel Fabian Brands

Serenidad
08-17-2010, 09:34 PM
Daniel Fabian Brands

Oh please. :rolleyes: :wavey:

straitup
08-17-2010, 09:35 PM
Secondly, it is beyond me how Wawrinka can be included in this poll. Watch some clips of his backhand and if you do not deem that to be talent then your standards must be astronomical.

Was gonna point out the same thing...everyone's said that he's so talented and has really underachieved in his career (which I agree with)

And yes, everyone in the top 100 is talented in some way.

decrepitude
08-17-2010, 09:36 PM
Nobody gave them points (except for a very few cases of walkovers), they earned them: so they all deserve to be there.

dombrfc
08-17-2010, 09:37 PM
Wawrinka?! You HAVE to be kidding. He'd be pushing top 10 for most imo!

Sonja1989
08-17-2010, 09:38 PM
Oh please. :rolleyes: :wavey:

I'm on your side. :D

scarecrows
08-17-2010, 09:40 PM
Secondly, it is beyond me how Wawrinka can be included in this poll. Watch some clips of his backhand and if you do not deem that to be talent then your standards must be astronomical.

look who the thread starter is

Everko
08-17-2010, 09:44 PM
look who the thread starter is

mr funny man can I have your business card please.

Blackbriar
08-17-2010, 09:45 PM
at least Haase can serve well, Wawrinka has talent (former top 10) but not the guts, Russel is terrible, Phau too, Dabul is not great. I dont know Hajek and Kamke enough. Don't rule out more well_known players: Ferrer's technique is ugly & Stakhovsky, Kukushkin...

Guy Haines
08-17-2010, 09:46 PM
The ATP isn't a talent show.

A player with less obvious talent who works incredibly hard, like Pics, deserves to be in the top 20-30 as much as the legion of ATP players with great talent and a loser's commitment.

Sapeod
08-17-2010, 10:24 PM
at least Haase can serve well, Wawrinka has talent (former top 10) but not the guts, Russel is terrible, Phau too, Dabul is not great. I dont know Hajek and Kamke enough. Don't rule out more well_known players: Ferrer's technique is ugly & Stakhovsky, Kukushkin...
Ferrer????
Ferrer????

Ferrer should not be included in this :retard: :retard:
The guy is talented.
His talent = extreme fight, mental toughness and consistency

Smoke944
08-17-2010, 10:26 PM
Ferrer????
Ferrer????

Ferrer should not be included in this :retard: :retard:
Guy is talented.
His talent = extreme fight, mental toughness and consistency

Never agreed with you so much before. David Ferrer is very talented.

Cloudygirl
08-17-2010, 10:26 PM
Define talent and then I'll answer the question

emotion
08-17-2010, 10:27 PM
Probably Montanes. But you don't seem to get that it is a good thing to beat top players who are more talented than you, much more impressive than the other way around. That is the main reason I like Montanes, Hewitt, and Ferrer (mostly memories in the case of Ferrer :sad: )

Sapeod
08-17-2010, 10:28 PM
Phau, Robert and Russell are by far the worse.

Sapeod
08-17-2010, 10:29 PM
Probably Montanes. But you don't seem to get that it is a good thing to beat top players who are more talented than you, much more impressive than the other way around. That is the main reason I like Montanes, Hewitt, and Ferrer (mostly memories in the case of Ferrer :sad: )
Montanes???????????? :(
No way, dude :(
Montanes is talented.
His backhand is very impressive (top 5 in one-handers imo), his forehand is good, he's quite fast, has lots of stamina and also is the mentally toughest player on the entire tour.

If that's not talent, then I don't know what is :tape:

emotion
08-17-2010, 10:32 PM
The mental toughness is what I mean....
I think if you put say... Gasquet's brain in Montanes you get a player outside the top 200

straitup
08-17-2010, 10:32 PM
Russell is not the worst. He's incredibly fit and fast if he's not hampered by injuries, and he's kinda always been around since that almost win over Guga at RG. Not to mention he's 32

_Chaz
08-17-2010, 10:33 PM
Phau, Robert and Russell are by far the worse.

I would say Robert, too.

BodyServe
08-17-2010, 10:34 PM
One of those random grinder/dirtballer.

There is no talent required to do that.

Montego
08-17-2010, 10:35 PM
I would say Robert, too.

I was trying to choose someone, but couldn't find anyone just from memory, not looking at the rankings

Robert gets my vote too

How did he manage to get to the Top100 :confused::confused::confused::confused:

ORGASMATRON
08-17-2010, 10:36 PM
wtf is haase and stan doing up there? :silly:

Ozone
08-17-2010, 10:37 PM
Whoever said Kamke and Russel needs to be slapped. Pound for pound they are 2 of the most raw talented players on tour. Guccione's injuries have put him out of the top 100 or it would be hands down the Gooch.

So I'll go with Stephane Robert with Lukas Lacko and Marin Cilic close behind. Andy Roddick gets honorable mention.

sheva07
08-17-2010, 10:37 PM
wtf is haase and stan doing up there? :silly:

This.

Ozone
08-17-2010, 10:40 PM
These choices arent very good

Roddickominator
08-17-2010, 10:45 PM
Robredo and Simon

Sapeod
08-17-2010, 10:45 PM
The mental toughness is what I mean....
I think if you put say... Gasquet's brain in Montanes you get a player outside the top 200
Then how is Gascoke in the top 100? :confused:
His shots, that's why.
I'd say Montanes would be top 100, around 80.
His game isn't just about mental toughness.
His shots aren't that much worse than Gascoke's, he's quite powerful for his size and has some great shots, especially that wicked backhand.

Sapeod
08-17-2010, 10:46 PM
These choices arent very good
Look at the OP.

What did you expect? :lol:

FleetSeb
08-17-2010, 10:48 PM
I never understand why people rate natural talent higher than hard work. To me someone like Robredo or Ferrer or Montanes is far more impressive than a naturally talented person who doesn't put in the hard work. It is a good thing to be called a 'hard worker' because it shows you've put effort in, something than can be controlled by your own self rather than you 'natural talent' genes.

FleetSeb
08-17-2010, 10:49 PM
One of those random grinder/dirtballer.

There is no talent required to do that.

It requires more talent to be a tactical claycourter than a baseline basher.

Ozone
08-17-2010, 10:50 PM
Wawrinka, Russel, Kamke, Haase are top 50 talents. Just watch them and compare them to Robert (who wasnt even a choice) and other players. Kamke actually beat Robert like 62 60 63 at Roland Garros.

willoughby
08-17-2010, 11:10 PM
Isner and Brands

adee-gee
08-17-2010, 11:14 PM
Unreal that no-one has said Florian Mayer. Probably the worst player in the top 1000.

Sapeod
08-17-2010, 11:28 PM
Unreal that no-one has said Florian Mayer. Probably the worst player in the top 1000.
Either you're being a Grade A Rafatard idiot, or you're joking.

Sauletekis
08-18-2010, 12:07 AM
Either you're being a Grade A Rafatard idiot, or you're joking.

Disagree totally with that!






















































































I think it's both....

Henry Chinaski
08-18-2010, 12:29 AM
Anyone who said Hajek is a clown.

I don't think anyone who can return to the top 100 after suffering from a problem with his heart can do so without a fair degree of talent.

BodyServe
08-18-2010, 12:43 AM
It requires more talent to be a tactical claycourter than a baseline basher.

Wrong, anyone can push the ball in the court there is little to no tactic involved.
On the other hand those bashers needs good motion and good timing to pull off those shots, so they are talented if they are in top 100.

FlavorNuts
08-18-2010, 12:47 AM
Nadal, Roddick, Ljubicic.

ORGASMATRON
08-18-2010, 12:58 AM
brad gilbert

Sham Kay
08-18-2010, 01:22 AM
Robredo. No seriously, watching that guy play is painful indeed.

Filo V.
08-18-2010, 02:45 AM
For starters, Wawrinka does not deserve to be listed. He's a very talented player and has been in the top 10. Haase, Hajek, Dabul, Phau, Kamke are all talented players. To be in the top 100, you have to be talented so this question is a bit insulting to those guys who fought their asses off to get top the upper echelon of the game. Talent isn't necessarily about hitting the hardest ball or having the most variety, it's about the total package a player brings to the court. Also, it's about having the skill to execute your talents effectively.

With that said, if I absolutely had to respond, I'd have to say Robert. Robert is basically a slightly better version of Somdev. And Somdev, love him, is definitely one of the weakest top 100/110 players.

bluefork
08-18-2010, 02:57 AM
I agree with everyone who said it's ridiculous for Wawrinka to be included in this poll. His backhand alone is one of the best single-handers in the game right now. He's just a bit inconsistent week-in and week-out.

I tend to think that the players whose success is reliant on one particular stroke (usually the serve) are the least talented. So guys like Isner, Karlovic, and Anderson come to my mind.

Then again, after glancing at the current top 100, I might have to rethink my criteria and go with Volandri. :p

Ibracadabra
08-18-2010, 03:05 AM
Andrew murray.

bad gambler
08-18-2010, 03:06 AM
Unreal that no-one has said Florian Mayer. Probably the worst player in the top 1000.

Not a fan of those 2 handed drop shots? :lol:

Filo V.
08-18-2010, 03:24 AM
[QUOTE=bluefork;10260619 I might have to rethink my criteria and go with Volandri. :p[/QUOTE]
Oh hell no you didn't just say that about Pippo :ras:

Action Jackson
08-18-2010, 03:42 AM
Look at the OP.

What did you expect? :lol:

Says it all.

green25814
08-18-2010, 03:47 AM
How the fuck is Haase in this poll? That guy has unbelievable raw skills.

green25814
08-18-2010, 03:48 AM
Andrew murray.

Then where would that put Del Potro, who is clearly less talented than Murray?

straitup
08-18-2010, 04:08 AM
Wrong, anyone can push the ball in the court there is little to no tactic involved.
On the other hand those bashers needs good motion and good timing to pull off those shots, so they are talented if they are in top 100.

That goes both ways though...maybe anyone can push the ball in the court, but then it takes incredible speed, anticipation, and yes some strategy to get to a level in the top 100.

ibreak4coffee
08-18-2010, 04:12 AM
He's technically 101 in the world, but you cant have this conversation without mentioning Donald Young...

Filo V.
08-18-2010, 04:15 AM
He's technically 101 in the world, but you cant have this conversation without mentioning Donald Young...

He's talented. Actually, in terms of pure skill level, he's better than quite a few top 100 players. He has something many top 100 players do not have---variety.

Smoke944
08-18-2010, 04:25 AM
He's technically 101 in the world, but you cant have this conversation without mentioning Donald Young...


Surely you can't be serious.

Filo V.
08-18-2010, 04:27 AM
I'm surprised no-one has said Berlocq yet.

Mechlan
08-18-2010, 04:37 AM
I think to be considered not talented and still be in the top 100 is actually quite a compliment. That means you're using your head and playing smart tennis, and that's to be commended. Watching talent is fun, but being a talented underachiever would be awful. I'd rather win ugly.

Priam
08-18-2010, 04:45 AM
Shittler.

paseo
08-18-2010, 04:59 AM
Fed & Nalbandian :D

.-Federers_Mate-.
08-18-2010, 05:03 AM
if we were speaking number one, or top 10..then yes Nadal would most definately be at the top of everyones list (inc mine)

however we are not...so i would say Robert

Goldenoldie
08-18-2010, 08:01 AM
Sometimes the talent lies in knowing your limitations and choosing your schedule carefully.

There are players in the top 100 who pick up points week in and week out on the challenger tour, and players outside the top 100 who bust a gut trying (and failing) to qualify for the ATP events.

Which group shows the most "talent"? I say the ones who are earning a living.

borracho
08-18-2010, 08:11 AM
Riba & Robert

leng jai
08-18-2010, 10:47 AM
Montanes???????????? :(
No way, dude :(
Montanes is talented.
His backhand is very impressive (top 5 in one-handers imo), his forehand is good, he's quite fast, has lots of stamina and also is the mentally toughest player on the entire tour.

If that's not talent, then I don't know what is :tape:

Sounds like top 5 material going by that description.

Helevorn
08-18-2010, 11:02 AM
talking about the actual top-100, for sure Carlos Berlocq, Ricardo Mello, Tobias Kamke and Jan Hajek deserve to float under 150°

maybe even Bjorn Phau and Michael Russell are not that worthy, but they're acceptable as long as they stay under 90°

FleetSeb
08-18-2010, 11:07 AM
Unreal that no-one has said Florian Mayer. Probably the worst player in the top 1000.

Hahahahahaha

Florian Mayer has incredible hands, and is a great all round player. Some of the stuff he can do with a tennis ball is :worship:

FleetSeb
08-18-2010, 11:10 AM
Wrong, anyone can push the ball in the court there is little to no tactic involved.
On the other hand those bashers needs good motion and good timing to pull off those shots, so they are talented if they are in top 100.

Disagree, I find it pretty damn easy to go onto a tennis court and just attack everything with my forehand. It takes much more coaching and time to learn how to mix up spins, slices etc. For example when pulled out wide of the tramlines on the forehand side, it might be more dramatic to go for a winner down the line and that is what most 'brainless' players would do. To be able to get a topspin forehand that is deep and back in the centre of the court, or to hit an angled cross court forehand from that position is much more sensible, and much more challenging to actually learn to do.

Clarity of thought on a tennis court impresses me more than a hard hit shot.

Sophocles
08-18-2010, 11:23 AM
Classic Everko poll options.

Talent impresses me more than hard work.

Surcouf
08-18-2010, 11:58 AM
if we were speaking number one, or top 10..then yes Nadal would most definately be at the top of everyones list (inc mine)

however we are not...so i would say Robert

Everyone? If everyone is your definition of a group of troll and haters that you lead, then you have a point. But for all the knowledgable tennis follower, Nadal is the most talented player in the world.

born_on_clay
08-18-2010, 12:40 PM
unfortunately Łukasz Kubot

oranges
08-18-2010, 12:41 PM
Perhaps you should have put a few more talented people in the list to make the thread even more meanigless. Seriously, Warinka and Haase in the list, even for your standards or rather lack of it :spit: Did you have a lobotomy?

Everko
08-18-2010, 02:18 PM
Mello 2nd in the poll and no mentions of him in the thread at all:rolleyes:

Sapeod
08-18-2010, 02:34 PM
Andrew murray.
Considering Murray is more talented than Del Potro, Nadal, Cilic, Djokovic, Verdasco, Wawrinka and Gulbis to name a few, then how is the possible.
It isn't, you're just taking the piss.
Shittler.
:bs:
Rainer is great at the net, is good at the back, has incredible fitness for his age, has quite a lot of stamina.
He is talented.
Sounds like top 5 material going by that description.
Top 20 at best.
There are many more players than are faster, have better forehands and return better than him.
Plus he's crap at volleying, one of the worst in the top 100 tbh.
Backhand and mental toughness are the only things he beats a lot of players at.
Everyone? If everyone is your definition of a group of troll and haters that you lead, then you have a point. But for all the knowledgable tennis follower, Nadal is the most talented player in the world.
Schuettler is more talented than Nadal.

born_on_clay
08-18-2010, 03:02 PM
...Schuettler is more talented than Nadal.


massive fail :o:o:o:o:o:o

borracho
08-18-2010, 03:14 PM
Disagree, I find it pretty damn easy to go onto a tennis court and just attack everything with my forehand. It takes much more coaching and time to learn how to mix up spins, slices etc. For example when pulled out wide of the tramlines on the forehand side, it might be more dramatic to go for a winner down the line and that is what most 'brainless' players would do. To be able to get a topspin forehand that is deep and back in the centre of the court, or to hit an angled cross court forehand from that position is much more sensible, and much more challenging to actually learn to do.

Clarity of thought on a tennis court impresses me more than a hard hit shot.

Disagree, then explain why on recreational level 90% just pushes the ball back and is unable to hit even 1 single winner in a match? A lot of for example former football players have great footwork but really no feeling for the ball, they just rely on UEs of opponents, while attacking players need a good touch and tactics to score points.

Sapeod
08-18-2010, 03:31 PM
massive fail :o:o:o:o:o:o
Massive truth actually.

careergrandslam
08-18-2010, 03:33 PM
in the top 5 of federer,nadal,djoko,murray,delpo.
i would have to say rafa is the least talented in shotmaking and serving.
but rafa is the best mover and defender.
in terms of clean ballstriking, he is awful, always hits many mishits.
but rafa is a hard worker and thus makes up for that lack of shotmaking talent with hardwork in other areas.
i mean he has improved in alot of aspects.

but on a fast hardcourt like cincy and USO, he becomes a below average club player.
he looks so vulnerable on those courts, even against total clowns.
i think that lack of clean ballstriking ability really costs him on fast hardcourts.
its extremely frustrating when he keeps getting beat everytime very easily on these fast courts, and especially in semifinals.
how many semifinals has he lost on hardcourts over the years, MANY!

Sophocles
08-18-2010, 03:39 PM
but on a fast hardcourt like cincy and USO, he becomes a below average club player.
he looks so vulnerable on those courts, even against total clowns.
i think that lack of clean ballstriking ability really costs him on fast hardcourts.
its extremely frustrating when he keeps getting beat everytime very easily on these fast courts, and especially in semifinals.
how many semifinals has he lost on hardcourts over the years, MANY!

How many ATP semi-finals do below average club players generally make?

Priam
08-18-2010, 03:41 PM
The hate for Nadal is ridiculous. You'd think he lucked his way to #1.

Everko
08-18-2010, 03:43 PM
Massive truth actually.

someone needs to call the nurse to take your computer away

Sauletekis
08-18-2010, 03:52 PM
Mello 2nd in the poll and no mentions of him in the thread at all:rolleyes:

I voted Mello, but didn't feel like post anything, because this thread is getting ridiculous of off-topic.

But now that you mention, i saw a match of Mello agains Leonardo Tavares at Estoril. God that was awful. Barely he can move, bad serve, bad shots sellection. Really awful against a player outside 250 at that moment...

Ozone
08-18-2010, 03:52 PM
Mello is there just because of challengers basically. Nobody really cares or knows anything about him. Haase on the list........I dont even know what to say to that

Forehander
08-18-2010, 03:54 PM
Schuettler is more talented than Nadal.

:haha:

Sauletekis
08-18-2010, 03:56 PM
Mello is there just because of challengers basically. Nobody really cares or knows anything about him. Haase on the list........I dont even know what to say to that


Agree, but even for challengers, this mug is too bad. Didn't realised that the level on some challengers was SO low...:eek:

Ozone
08-18-2010, 04:24 PM
Agree, but even for challengers, this mug is too bad. Didn't realised that the level on some challengers was SO low...:eek:
Oh yeah he probably play all those mug chalys with his buddies in South America. Like 30K Brazilian stuff

Whoever said Schuettler needs to be slapped.

Everko
08-18-2010, 04:25 PM
Oh yeah he probably play all those mug chalys with his buddies in South America. Like 30K Brazilian stuff

yet you always brag about how great these mug American challenger players are

scarecrows
08-18-2010, 04:43 PM
Oh yeah he probably play all those mug chalys with his buddies in South America. Like 30K Brazilian stuff

.

yeha, they're almost as bad as Delray Beach

finn98
08-18-2010, 07:51 PM
Nadal is the greatest player ever to set foot on a clay court...Does that make any sense to clowns that are bringing him into this discussion..?

Tom Paulman
08-18-2010, 08:58 PM
Russell was a matchpoint away from a GS QF and he can sometimes play very well. Hajek is a good player on clay.

Right now I'd say Przysiezny. And Isner.

FormerRafaFan
08-18-2010, 09:02 PM
Russell. He is very old player, but he was never in top 50.

Good point. I voted for Russell as well.

Surcouf
08-18-2010, 11:05 PM
in the top 5 of federer,nadal,djoko,murray,delpo.
i would have to say rafa is the least talented in shotmaking and serving.
but rafa is the best mover and defender.
in terms of clean ballstriking, he is awful, always hits many mishits.
but rafa is a hard worker and thus makes up for that lack of shotmaking talent with hardwork in other areas.
i mean he has improved in alot of aspects.

but on a fast hardcourt like cincy and USO, he becomes a below average club player.
he looks so vulnerable on those courts, even against total clowns.
i think that lack of clean ballstriking ability really costs him on fast hardcourts.
its extremely frustrating when he keeps getting beat everytime very easily on these fast courts, and especially in semifinals.
how many semifinals has he lost on hardcourts over the years, MANY!

You are a joke of a Rafa fan. Go back supporting someone else.

Surcouf
08-18-2010, 11:06 PM
Schuettler is more talented than Nadal.

Your IQ is below 50.

fran70
08-18-2010, 11:24 PM
I'm surprised no-one has said Berlocq yet.

I was thinking about him :). I admire Charly for his big desire to make things better and improve day by day, his never give up attitude and effort that he gives in every match but he has no talents at all.

Sapeod
08-18-2010, 11:44 PM
:haha:
Also he's a much much much better player than Dimitrov will ever be :wavey:
Nadal is the greatest player ever to set foot on a clay court...Does that make any sense to clowns that are bringing him into this discussion..?
The fact you have Nadal as the GOAT in your sig, even though he's only got 8 slams, makes you look like a simpleton.
Your IQ is below 50.
Your IQ is probably below 10.
It boggles my mind that you figured out how to turn on your computer.

Filo V.
08-23-2010, 04:03 PM
The answer is Stephane Robert.

ltaravilse
08-24-2010, 10:07 AM
Nadal

sheva07
08-24-2010, 10:10 AM
Robert, Riba, Hajek and Przyschnitzel.

latso
08-24-2010, 10:49 AM
Brands

but normally Karlovic

Gęmeos
08-24-2010, 12:36 PM
Brands

HotFuss
08-24-2010, 01:09 PM
Troicki

W!MBLEDON
08-24-2010, 02:16 PM
pere riba easily

Dmitry Verdasco
08-24-2010, 02:33 PM
Brands
Roddick

Everko
09-29-2010, 07:58 PM
Brands is bad but more talented than some others.

Ozone
09-29-2010, 08:16 PM
I dont understand how Mussel leads voting. He is extremely athletic and he has had to play with the disadvantage of his height all of his career and he's still top 100

Filo V.
09-29-2010, 08:42 PM
Most people don't know a damn thing about Russell and just say he's not talented to go with the crowd.

Robert is and will continue to be the least talented top 100 player until he leaves the top 100.

tennishero
09-29-2010, 10:15 PM
one of them is Kubot

Smoke944
09-29-2010, 10:17 PM
one of them is Kubot

Disagree.

Serenidad
09-30-2010, 01:48 AM
Brands

but normally Karlovic

Brands

You sad little haters.

Topspindoctor
09-30-2010, 02:05 AM
Karlovic - 100% serve and disgrace to tennis

Filo V.
10-22-2010, 12:10 AM
Robert is finally out of the top 100 after this week, losing 0-6 4-6 to a qualifier ranked in the 500s and winning 4 points on serve down 0-6 0-3. Greul is also out of the top 100 from this list. The answer now I think is one of Marchenko, Ilhan, Somdev (even though I love him but it's a reality), and Berlocq.

Filo V.
10-22-2010, 12:13 AM
Although I'm still of the attitude that polls like these are disrespectful, as to make the top 100 of the tennis world you have to be good. You can't just be horrible and make the top 100. Every player in the top 100 has some modicum of talent, and to just write them off as horrible players is offensive.

KaiserT
10-22-2010, 12:20 AM
Haase and Wawrinka on the list...... what a tool.

KaiserT
10-22-2010, 12:22 AM
Ilhan. Devvarman. Riba. Marchenko. Berlocq.

Tommy Robredo the least talented top 5 player ever btw ;)

penzias
10-22-2010, 08:06 AM
pere riba easily
No way. He's not even the less talented spaniard in the top 100. Pablo Andujar can be a serious contender to the title though.

bokehlicious
10-22-2010, 08:53 AM
Wawrinka?! You HAVE to be kidding. He'd be pushing top 10 for most imo!

If there was more Swiss guys in the top 100 OP would have included them :) :zzz:

benny1234
10-22-2010, 09:43 AM
Unnecessary thread and unnecessary poll. I can see what the OP was getting at, but this really quickly deteriorates into purposeless armchair fan talk.. You gotta respect the guys that make the top 100. Worst talent? Come on...

finishingmove
10-22-2010, 10:17 AM
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Andre'sNo1Fan
10-22-2010, 10:23 AM
Who the fuck put Warwinka in this poll. He isn't remotely close to least talented probably more likely to be in top 10 most talented.

dijus
10-22-2010, 05:54 PM
guy ranked #100 atm ;)

Everko
11-08-2010, 03:26 PM
Russell is near the top. Pathetic loss to Stepanek

Blackbriar
11-08-2010, 03:33 PM
Istomin and Chiudinelli are atrocious. among the worst BH of professional tennis.

Wum
11-08-2010, 04:22 PM
You know Haase is in the worst talents and best talents thread at the same time? Sounds like a need for definition of talent if you ask me :)

Blackbriar
11-08-2010, 04:25 PM
Haase sucks big time, but he can serve well. greul, Russel and Kamke are just plain horrible.

Wum
11-08-2010, 04:32 PM
Haase sucks big time, but he can serve well. greul, Russel and Kamke are just plain horrible.

Yeah, he sucked his way to a 5-setter against Nadal (read:winner) at Wimbledon this year... Not saying he's the best talent, but this stuff is so subjective without a definition of talent (which there isn't).

Pirao666
11-08-2010, 04:54 PM
guy ranked #100 atm ;)

Agreed. What is talent anyway? I'm sure if I asked 5 random posters, I'd get 5 different answers.

philosophicalarf
11-08-2010, 05:08 PM
Talent: a player's level of ability, if they worked as hard as Ferrer on and off court, and had the mental strength of Nadal or Isner.

RIboy
11-08-2010, 05:18 PM
Cilic

bjurra
11-08-2010, 05:18 PM
Istomin and Chiudinelli are atrocious. among the worst BH of professional tennis.

Nothing wrong with Istomins bh!

Agree with M Ch though.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
11-08-2010, 06:52 PM
nadal murray djokovic

Pirao666
11-08-2010, 07:15 PM
Talent: a player's level of ability, if they worked as hard as Ferrer on and off court, and had the mental strength of Nadal or Isner.

I would consider mental strenght and work ethic part of talent, while you wouldn't. Our definitions of talent are different already, and probably someone else would have another definition too.

philosophicalarf
11-08-2010, 07:25 PM
Fairy nuff.

I suppose Gasquet is the classic example of "talent" unfulfilled. Then again, it's also a talent to not doublefault on the sole breakpoint you face, or convert 1/8bps, when you're playing for a spot in the Davis Cup final (gasquet is doing exactly this vs mahut atm).

Filo V.
11-08-2010, 08:42 PM
Marco C. isn't top 100 anymore. Greul isn't top 100, and Zeballos isn't top 100.

I still do not think Marchenko is very good. First serve, grinding ability and some counterpunching power, and that's about it for him. But he's finding ways to win, to give him credit.

Machado and Ilhan are to me the least talented players in the top 100, but once again, to be top 100 in the world of tennis, you have to have big talent. Also, talent doesn't mean much if you don't get anything out of it.

Everko
11-12-2010, 02:04 PM
Marco C. isn't top 100 anymore. Greul isn't top 100, and Zeballos isn't top 100.

I still do not think Marchenko is very good. First serve, grinding ability and some counterpunching power, and that's about it for him. But he's finding ways to win, to give him credit.

Machado and Ilhan are to me the least talented players in the top 100, but once again, to be top 100 in the world of tennis, you have to have big talent. Also, talent doesn't mean much if you don't get anything out of it.

Your stating obvious things. I know top 100 players are great compared to me or anyone I know but forget that and judge them on top 100 level.

Fedicilous
11-12-2010, 05:30 PM
Nadal, Ferrer, Montanes, Karlovic, Simon.

BK 201
11-12-2010, 06:23 PM
I would consider mental strenght and work ethic part of talent, while you wouldn't..

So in terms of talent, then Muster > Safin. Good to know..........

Pirao666
11-12-2010, 07:07 PM
So in terms of talent, then Muster > Safin. Good to know..........

Nope, Muster has 1 slam and Safin 2, Safin was more talented overall.

Sofonda Cox
11-12-2010, 07:09 PM
OTHER: Murray

Haasi
11-12-2010, 10:39 PM
where is GULBIS?? :confused::o

Filo V.
11-20-2010, 07:09 PM
Final week of the year coming up and players are trying to solidify their top 100, and more importantly, AO MD positions.

http://tennislive.free.fr/

Michal P. is provisionally out of the top 100, Gonzalez is out until the French at least, and Del Potro will be out of the top 100 come Monday. #103 Kunitsyn is essentially #100 in the rankings.

So, who do you all think is the least talented player in the top 100 going into the final week?

Filo V.
11-20-2010, 07:10 PM
I've seen quite a few here say Gulbis. How the fuck can anyone say Gulbis is anything but a major talent?

Scola
11-20-2010, 08:04 PM
Kamke has 15 votes :confused:

Did anyone from this site ever watch him? He's amazing. Great volleying skills, footwork and very fast in covering the court. Also good reliable serve for someone of his height...And I'm not only saying this because of the win against Berdych recently. Tomas was very bad that day, hitting like one winner in whole match. I was very surprised, when I saw Tobias for the first time in Wimbledon this year.
Kamke has lot of potential. Surely more than others mentioned in the poll (except maybe Wawrinka and Haase).

Filo V.
11-20-2010, 08:11 PM
I don't think anyone had ever heard of Kamke, so they just assumed he sucked. Kamke is probably going to be around the level of his compatriot Mayer next season. He's got major game.

Scola
11-20-2010, 08:34 PM
I don't think anyone had ever heard of Kamke, so they just assumed he sucked. Kamke is probably going to be around the level of his compatriot Mayer next season. He's got major game.

I hope so. Don't want to predict his ranking, but I think Tobias can do well on ATP next season. But he reminds me more of Thiemo De Bakker than Florian Mayer actually (in style of play) ;)

Filo V.
11-20-2010, 09:18 PM
I hope so. Don't want to predict his ranking, but I think Tobias can do well on ATP next season. But he reminds me more of Thiemo De Bakker than Florian Mayer actually (in style of play) ;)

Yes, he's not like Mayer in play, I didn't mean to send that message. I think he can have a season like the one Mayer had this year. De Bakker is a great comparison. I don't do the prediction thing either because anything can happen, but I do think he can be a good ATP player for an extended period, the tools are there.

VolandriFan
11-20-2010, 11:24 PM
Hate to say it, but Mello is the most average of the list.

Everko
01-20-2011, 07:26 PM
Mello is bad. I say him once and was shocked at his poorness.

Filo V.
03-09-2011, 09:16 PM
Well it's been two months and a lot of changes within the rankings. I wonder who everyone thinks is currently the worst talent in the top 100? Personally, I think Dustin is the worst top 100 player, even if he isn't the worst talent. There is a lot more talent within the top 100 than there was when this thread was made.

I'm just happy Pippo and Simone are top 100. Hope they both stay there for the rest of the year.

Sonja1989
03-09-2011, 09:29 PM
I stay in Russell. :) Because he is 32 and his best ranking the 60th in his career.

KaiserT
03-10-2011, 12:17 AM
Well it's been two months and a lot of changes within the rankings. I wonder who everyone thinks is currently the worst talent in the top 100? Personally, I think Dustin is the worst top 100 player, even if he isn't the worst talent. There is a lot more talent within the top 100 than there was when this thread was made.

I'm just happy Pippo and Simone are top 100. Hope they both stay there for the rest of the year.

It's a miracle Bolelli is still in the top 100, he's pretty much done.

Filo V.
03-10-2011, 02:23 AM
It's a miracle Bolelli is still in the top 100, he's pretty much done.

So sad, but so damn true :( I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I saw him play v Phau in Chennai, when I saw highlights of his match v Crugnola in AO Qualifying, and the Italian indoor events. He's an incredibly awful player now.

TMJordan
03-10-2011, 02:27 AM
I stay in Russell. :) Because he is 32 and his best ranking the 60th in his career.

GRANOLLERS

Ibracadabra
03-10-2011, 02:29 AM
Dustin brown is probabl worst top 100 ever.

Topspindoctor
03-10-2011, 04:58 AM
Where is the choice for "all are equal mugs"?

Sonja1989
03-10-2011, 10:24 AM
GRANOLLERS

Yes? I hope you said this only because of personal.

FormerRafaFan
03-10-2011, 12:01 PM
Russell is a good vote I think :)

madmax
03-10-2011, 12:04 PM
Russell is a good vote I think :)

Iron Mike? No way - he is a very steady baseliner with powerful and precise shots. I'd say Hajek fits the bill just fine here.

Sonja1989
03-10-2011, 12:09 PM
Funny poll...
Kamke is ATP Newcomer of the Year in 2010. ;)
Wawrinka was in top 10, he made surprise many times. He defeated many top 10 players.
Haase is huge talent, poor guy is young but he was injured always. :(

And some people voted for Wawrinka...

VolandriFan
03-10-2011, 12:10 PM
Dustin brown is probabl worst top 100 ever.

Pfft.

Brown > Mello.

Ibracadabra
03-10-2011, 02:20 PM
I voted mello but atleast he has a title.

AncicCilic
03-10-2011, 06:40 PM
Voted that all top 100 are worthy.
Tennis is a very popular sport and i don't think anyone can just come to top 100 without any talent therefore they are all tallented, of course some more then others.

I personally like to see a player that isn't maybe top talent but achieves alot in his career, much more then i like to see some "big talent" that never does much. Atleast first one had the mental strength to come where he is (and head is very important in sport).

Filo V.
04-19-2011, 03:21 AM
Matthias Bachinger is now in the top 100 for the first time. He's talented, though. I think he could be Kamke 2010.

Serra is provisionally ranked 100 and I think he's atrocious now. Probably the second worst top 100 player.

Soeda is still the worst, but he'll be out next week.

Filo V.
04-19-2011, 03:25 AM
Brown is now ranked in the 120s, which is probably what his real level is. And no, Mello is better than Dustin is. Julian Reister, another new top 100 entrant, is one of the worst also.

GlennMirnyi
04-19-2011, 03:28 AM
Still no "Nadull" option. A crying shame.

tennisfan856
04-19-2011, 03:34 AM
As much as I love Gabashvili's form when he is on, I feel like he's going to crash and burn out of the top 100 with those lost challenger and french open points (let's be realistic, he won't defend them).

But to answer the question, I am not even trying to be a hater but it's got to be sweeting now that brands is gone. I have never seen soeda play but i am guessing he is a top option for a lot of posters.

Filo V.
04-19-2011, 03:53 AM
Gaba has done enough where his ranking won't drop too far out of the top 100 if he loses in R1. Knowing him, I think he'll be up for it and win a match, depending on the draw. Gaba used to be poor on clay and now it's his best surface. Gaba is talented, but he's always been overrated because his rally ball isn't that great, sort of junky. His serve is also very off and on, as well as his defense. I thought Gaba could be a top 40 player before, but I can see he'll never be more than top 70 without major improvements.

Filo V.
04-19-2011, 03:56 AM
Sweeting isn't overwhelmingly talented, but he's better than people have given him credit for on this forum. Like the McEnroe boys said, I think he's top 70 consistently. He's a lot like Gaba, his rally ball is sort of junk, but he can be aggressive and return well and hit flat especially with the BH.

Trust, Soeda is worse than Sweeting. He just massages balls around with little topspin and doesn't miss and that's pretty much the extent of his ability. He doesn't really have much in the way of discernible skills.

TMJordan
04-19-2011, 05:17 AM
Gotta go with Volandri.

Filo V.
04-19-2011, 05:37 AM
http://www.thedaawards.com/_/rsrc/1299626041240/nominees/muammar-gaddafi/225px-Muammar_al-Gaddafi_at_the_AU_summit.jpg

VolandriFan
04-19-2011, 06:48 AM
Gotta go with Volandri.

Not even worst top 30. ;)

Filo V.
04-19-2011, 05:33 PM
Stepanek isn't one of the least talented, but he's no longer anything beyond mediocre. He's declined quickly, probably because of the sickness he had (and still has???). Doesn't seem like he's going to be much more than a back-end top 50 player at best anymore.

Nadull_tard
04-19-2011, 07:05 PM
Nadal, Berdych and Cilic.

oomph
04-19-2011, 08:41 PM
Firstly, everyone in the top 100 must have had a considerable degree of talent to even make it that far.

So?

Filo V.
05-09-2011, 03:00 AM
Well, looking at the current rankings, the answer may sadly be Zverev currently. Although whether his play is due to talent or just serious mental/confidence issues is questionable.

Marchenko is pretty much a worse version of Somdev. Kukushkin I think is the worst player in the top 100, though. Why is he even in the top 150? I honestly think he's total garbage. But I know others think differently.

Everko
06-01-2011, 07:56 PM
Filo, why do you think these talentless players make the top 100?

exeget
06-01-2011, 08:29 PM
Granollers ? Mello ?

Sonja1989
06-01-2011, 08:35 PM
Talent is a thing. But some 'untalented' players made much more for their career than some 'talented' player.

And what is talent? I think the fight and will power are also talent because lot of player missing it.

yesh222
06-01-2011, 08:59 PM
Michael Russell has very little talent but still manages to do incredibly well on heart and perseverence. Hajek has talent, that's how he is in the top 100, but has the worst form I have ever seen from a top 200 player.

EDIT: By very little talent I mean compared to other top 100 players. Obviously an incredible amount of talent is needed in the first place.

Filo V.
06-01-2011, 09:22 PM
Filo, why do you think these talentless players make the top 100?

Not all of them are talentless. You have to have some talent to be a top 100 player.

Now, if you were asking me why do lesser talented players do better than greater talented players, it's usually due to a combination of mental strength, hard work/effort, and because the lesser talented players get the most of their ability. They usually have solid games, nothing great but do everything good enough, and don't beat themselves. The high talent players are not as solid and beat themselves. That's the big difference.

bouncer7
06-02-2011, 01:43 AM
No doubt, Troicki

Filo V.
06-02-2011, 03:54 AM
Looking at the provisional top 100, probably still Zverev. I don't know if Mischa permanently sucks or if he's lacking confidence/physically not 100%, but he's simply atrocious and it's too bad to see as a fan.

Filo V.
06-02-2011, 03:56 AM
Mikey Russell is a better player than Mello is.

Pirata.
06-02-2011, 06:46 AM
Verdasco is playing disgraceful tennis at the moment. It physically hurts to watch his implosions. That Soderling match :help:

Filo V.
06-08-2011, 03:14 AM
Zverev is bad now, but I forgot all about Cacashkin. How in the world did he ever make top 100, I don't know. He has challenger player written all over him, not anything he does can be considered at a consistent ATP quality at all. Just biding time until we don't see Kuku in ATP draws, which should be by AO next year.

Filo V.
06-08-2011, 03:16 AM
Bogomolov and Machado now that he's back in the top 100 also are right there with the least talented top 100 players.

ZackBusner
06-08-2011, 08:27 AM
Zverev is physically and mentally weak, but there's no doubt that he has talent.

KaiserT
06-08-2011, 08:32 AM
Zverev is physically and mentally weak, but there's no doubt that he has talent.

His game now is absolutely disgusting, why he reverted to defensive pushing I don't know, whatever talent he had he's not using it.

Filo V.
06-08-2011, 02:24 PM
He had talent. Whether he still does or not is questionable. Right now, he's an awful player, and really, borderline top 200 quality.

LawrenceOfTennis
06-09-2011, 08:41 AM
Gulbis.

Filo V.
06-17-2011, 07:13 PM
Lu will still be top 100 even if he loses R1 at Wimbledon. He's currently provisional rank #88.

Looking at the provisional rankings, it's Gremelmayr. He's worse than Zverev IMO. Super garbage player, but he'll be removed from the top 100 in about three weeks.

theKSHE
06-17-2011, 07:22 PM
Frederico Gil. Big fan but I believe even himself recognized that he is not a very gifted player.

Everko
10-25-2011, 07:59 PM
new ideas?

Sofonda Cox
10-25-2011, 08:03 PM
Murray.

Saberq
10-25-2011, 08:34 PM
Murray.

that's a little harsh ....there a far worse mugs

Filo V.
10-25-2011, 08:38 PM
Diego Junqueira. Absolutely no question. I sort of like Chucky, but I don't know how in the world he's managed to make the top 100 like 3 times now.

Johnny_Bravo
10-25-2011, 09:10 PM
since when are these guys considered as talents

Johnny_Bravo
10-25-2011, 09:12 PM
Gulbis.

:lol:

still hurting from that delpo beatdown?

Johnny_Bravo
10-25-2011, 09:15 PM
as for the worst talent, i would prolly have to go with somdev

zero talent in running miles 7 meters behind the baseline

emotion
10-25-2011, 09:16 PM
Terrible poll
Haase? Kamke? Wawrinka

oomph
10-25-2011, 09:52 PM
ITT: Talentless mugs unable to grasp the concept of "worst" :lol:

Chase Visa
04-01-2012, 02:35 AM
*bump*

Has to be Go Soeda, or maybe Paolo Lorenzi.

Filo V.
04-01-2012, 04:21 AM
Lorenzi by a mega margin. At least Soeda shows some semblance of playing tennis once in a while. And since he's beaten Dodig twice this season, Dodig would have to be the second worst talent.

Shitenzi will be removed from the top 100 in a couple weeks if he fails to defend a challenger title in Colombia. If/once that happens, the top 100 will be pretty good overall. Only really Soeda, Dodig and a few others are obviously not top 100 quality other than Lorenzi.

Filo V.
04-01-2012, 04:24 AM
I also have to say Machado, although he's almost out already and will be way out in about 1.5 months, is not a top 100 player. If you cannot do ANYTHING at the ATP level and have had several chances to prove you can and failed each time, then it's clear that isn't your level.

MuzzahLovah
04-01-2012, 04:28 AM
http://images.theage.com.au/2012/01/08/2880273/ipad-art-wide-tomic-420x0.jpg

BroTree123
04-01-2012, 05:18 AM
^^
What an insult to post this unnecessary pic of the Bogan here.

Everko
04-11-2012, 03:26 PM
I also have to say Machado, although he's almost out already and will be way out in about 1.5 months, is not a top 100 player. If you cannot do ANYTHING at the ATP level and have had several chances to prove you can and failed each time, then it's clear that isn't your level.

I have not heard of that player.

Filo V.
04-11-2012, 11:58 PM
Rui Machado, ranked provisional #96. Currently on a 16 ATP match losing streak.

Hian-GOAT
04-12-2012, 07:30 AM
Rui Machado, ranked provisional #96. Currently on a 16 ATP match losing streak.

He had some good results last year: he got here because he deserved it.
I mean, talent itself isn't enough: players have to work hard to get some good results! I think all the players in Top 100 are talented enough to do it.

If there is talent in cheating, than Nadal wins this.

Ilovetheblues_86
04-12-2012, 07:41 AM
I like the guy but I think now is Ungur.

J99
04-12-2012, 08:16 AM
You can make strong cases for Jaziri, Roger-Vasselin, Lorenzi and Cipolla as being the worst players in the top 100, maybe especially Jaziri.

Filo V.
04-12-2012, 11:48 AM
Based on ability, Ungur, Jaziri and Roger-Vasselin don't deserve to be listed.

samanosuke
04-12-2012, 11:51 AM
I have not heard of that player.

really a big surprise

Everko
10-23-2012, 02:14 PM
Time for a new opinions. Sela is a bad player and he stays around top 100 always.

J99
10-23-2012, 02:26 PM
Russell, Sousa, Ram and Bedene come to mind.

Everko
10-23-2012, 02:29 PM
Russell, Sousa, Ram and Bedene come to mind.

Bedene is probably it. I looked at top 100 today and didnt know what Bedene was at all.

sexybeast
10-23-2012, 02:29 PM
Lorenzi is the answer to the question. Anyway, wtf is Wawa doing in that poll?

uxyzapenje
10-23-2012, 02:29 PM
Wawrinka and Haase? Mug OP. I would say Phau.

BroTree123
10-23-2012, 02:31 PM
My eyes hurt, even just reading those list of clowns.

Looner
10-23-2012, 02:40 PM
Volandri.

SVK
10-23-2012, 03:33 PM
Talent-wise it´s probably Lorenzi, although I didn´t watch all the players from TOP 100.

JurajCrane
10-23-2012, 03:38 PM
Bedene is probably it. I looked at top 100 today and didnt know what Bedene was at all.

Who is surpised -- hands up ! :rolleyes:

motorhead
10-23-2012, 03:39 PM
Volandri.

uh? no.

Filo V.
10-23-2012, 04:12 PM
Volandri.

No.

Filo V.
10-23-2012, 04:13 PM
Lorenzi is still the answer and will be until he's out of the top 100.

Filo V.
10-23-2012, 04:14 PM
Bedene is probably it. I looked at top 100 today and didnt know what Bedene was at all.

That means you need to learn about other players. Bedene is a good young player.

J99
10-23-2012, 04:17 PM
That means you need to learn about other players. Bedene is a good young player.

How so, he hasn't had a decent win months.

Filo V.
10-23-2012, 04:23 PM
How so, he hasn't had a decent win months.

He's been ill and also fatigued.

Marc23
10-23-2012, 05:56 PM
No doubt, Troicki

Agree :)

Nole Rules
10-23-2012, 06:34 PM
lol it can't be Troicki.

BackhandDTL
10-23-2012, 06:43 PM
Possibly Bedene... Watched some of his Challenger against Dimitrov, and he just didn't seem to threaten him at all. He seems unable to actively penetrate the court; forehand swing is especially vertical.


Also Ferrer. :shrug:

The Prince
10-23-2012, 06:44 PM
Bedene is very talented. There are at least 20 players who are less talented than him.

Orange Wombat
10-23-2012, 06:50 PM
Possibly Bedene... Watched some of his Challenger against Dimitrov, and he just didn't seem to threaten him at all. He seems unable to actively penetrate the court; forehand swing is especially vertical.


Also Ferrer. :shrug:

:spit:

Orange Wombat
10-23-2012, 06:51 PM
Zopp, Leo Mayer, Harrison, Levine

nastoff
10-23-2012, 06:52 PM
Tomic...don't see him on the list though for some reason

motorhead
10-23-2012, 06:54 PM
Tomic...don't see him on the list though for some reason

when this thread was started Tomic wasn't even born.

bjurra
10-23-2012, 06:56 PM
Tomic...don't see him on the list though for some reason

It's because is about worst talent, not worst attitude.

My vote goes to Ruben. He is only talented when it comes to fixing and even there, he is average.

nastoff
10-23-2012, 07:02 PM
when this thread was started Tomic wasn't even born.

no wonder Dabul is there..he was the Warlocq in the pre Warlock-as-goat era

J99
10-23-2012, 07:02 PM
It's because is about worst talent, not worst attitude.

My vote goes to Ruben. He is only talented when it comes to fixing and even there, he is average.

RRH a match fixer, I think not.

motorhead
10-23-2012, 07:02 PM
no wonder Dabul is there..he was the Warlocq in the pre Warlock-as-goat era

:lol:

nastoff
10-23-2012, 07:04 PM
It's because is about worst talent, not worst attitude.
.

By talent we mean height? Yeah he's a pretty tall dude. If it's not his height there are about a dozen young guys more talented and with more potential than him. Talent is nothing without a work ethic and the right attitude.

out_grinder
10-23-2012, 07:55 PM
Out of the people you mentioned in your poll, Wawrinka is the least talented.

The others have all got some good parts, some bad parts to their game.

Lestat
10-23-2012, 08:28 PM
tomug by far.

lidal
10-23-2012, 08:34 PM
Mugicki :o He is almost 27 and he still doesn't learn how to hit a decent forehand :help: Except defensive forehand slice ;) :haha:

Out of the people you mentioned in your poll, Wawrinka is the least talented.


:rolleyes: