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Murray's Best Chance? Can he get his first major at the US Open?

Ozone
08-17-2010, 02:59 PM
I think this is Murray's best chance to get his Major titles count going. Andy just beat Federer and he's obviously getting a little out of his prime and has a family to take care of. Nadal in New York has never been a winning combination, and Murray really has success against him on hard courts and he beat Rafa in Toronto as well. Murray is playing great tennis and is playing much more aggresive, which helped him to a Rogers Cup win last week. I see Andy Murray taking his first major title at the US Open, his chance is too big. If he keeps his Rogers Cup form going and he's being aggresive, nobody can beat him.

Thoughts on Murray at the 2010 US Open?

My prediction: Murray 2010 US Open Champion

Infinity
08-17-2010, 03:07 PM
Nadal is a good matchup for him on hard courts. He can beat Djokovic. I don't like Roger chances based on Toronto, but he is still a contender.
In previous matches against Federer, he usually stayed passive, just keeping the ball in. He finally realized that only Nadal can beat him this way. If he continues to play aggressively throughout the Open, then he has a good chance, unless he meets someone on fire, extremely on fire.

So yes, he has a very good chance, but he should not take Cincinnati too serious. Could burn out.

Serenidad
08-17-2010, 03:08 PM
Someone has to take out Federer for him hopefully. Those courts are advantageous to Roger especially over Bo5 format. Anyone else he should be able to handle.

Hopefully Brands can take out Federer and make the F against Murray. :bigclap:

viruzzz
08-17-2010, 03:09 PM
Murray? Slam champion in 2010?
No.

Ozone
08-17-2010, 03:11 PM
I should of put who he would lose to in the poll instead of what round.

Ozone
08-17-2010, 03:11 PM
Murray? Slam champion in 2010?
No.
Who is going to win it then?

Roamed
08-17-2010, 03:16 PM
Murray has historically done well in slams where he wasn't the one of the bigger pre-tournament faves (AO 2010, USO 2008) and crashed out when he was (AO 2009, USO 2009). Those two times he lost to Verdasco and Cilic I think and never even got near enough to Federer/Nadal to play them. Sure, winning in Toronto was impressive, but it didn't end up meaning anything for him last year. On the face of it this year could be different with Federer struggling, but Murray has come up short too many times for me personally to pick him as the guy I think will win.

kooties
08-17-2010, 03:17 PM
just hopes he tanks Cincy.

FFS, don't peak early!

Blackbriar
08-17-2010, 03:18 PM
5-seters are a complete different stories. I think he will lose in semis unfortunately.

Har-Tru
08-17-2010, 03:20 PM
Wouldn't surprise me.

Certinfy
08-17-2010, 03:23 PM
I really do think he will do it.

dombrfc
08-17-2010, 03:24 PM
I can see him winning it. I've never said or though that before. I'd make him favourite on this day.

Having said that, I fully expect Federer to play a great US Open too.

If on different halves of the draw, that would be my final prediction.

misty1
08-17-2010, 03:26 PM
he's not going to win it this year, he'll get close but i just dont see him winning

it sounds weird because he's won 8 already and murray has none but i think nadal wants it more than anyone and when he wants something like he wants this whats going to stop him?

syc23
08-17-2010, 03:26 PM
Only 3 players are standing in his way: Federer, Berdych and Soderling. If he can keep the aggressive playing style going and avoid the Monfils type brainfart bagel sets then he has a chance.

straitup
08-17-2010, 03:28 PM
I think it's his best chance, but we have yet to see how he'll do in a 3rd major final. He needs to cut the mid-match lapses out entirely as well, last year he had that loss to Cilic as well as losing the set to Capdeville

I like his chances

opeth84
08-17-2010, 03:28 PM
I don't know if it will be his best chance but he's in the top 4 players in the world so he certainly has a good shot at the title. I think the courts in Canada are not quite as quick as in New York but i don't think that will worry him too much. He needs to keep the aggressive play up though because it doesn't matter if it's Nadal or Federer he's not going to get through them playing passive tennis.

born_on_clay
08-17-2010, 03:30 PM
Murray has historically done well in slams where he wasn't the one of the bigger pre-tournament faves (AO 2010, USO 2008) and crashed out when he was (AO 2009, USO 2009). Those two times he lost to Verdasco and Cilic I think and never even got near enough to Federer/Nadal to play them. Sure, winning in Toronto was impressive, but it didn't end up meaning anything for him last year. On the face of it this year could be different with Federer struggling, but Murray has come up short too many times for me personally to pick him as the guy I think will win.

+1

he lacks balls to win a Slam

misty1
08-17-2010, 03:33 PM
the biggest challenge for murray is mental

ofcourse he wants the slam but i dont know that that matter because he wanted to win the other 2 times he made a slam final aswell and both times he lost in straights. Sure those losses were to federer both times but does it really matter? is he mentally strong enough to play in a grand slam final and win? or would he get excited again and lose..again

I guess we'll have to wait and see if he gets there

vn01
08-17-2010, 03:34 PM
I like his chances too, but against big hitters(Soderling and Berdych) he would not be the favourite, so it depends on the draw

Mario000
08-17-2010, 04:01 PM
I am afraid that he has big chances. sad,but true

CCBH
08-17-2010, 04:02 PM
He needs to stay away from the more aggressive players, since the courts are faster at the USO than Toronto/Miami (he was schooled last year at Cincinnati by Roger, at the USO by Cilic etc., while winning Montreal & Miami). Also, the pressure of favorite-status has never sat well on him, so lets see if he makes the final first.

Elena.
08-17-2010, 04:05 PM
he'll lose in the final

MacTheKnife
08-17-2010, 04:13 PM
Lose in the semis, but USO is his best chance. As we've seen before, beating federer in b03 means nothing when it comes to predicting majors.

ORGASMATRON
08-17-2010, 04:13 PM
I think this is Murray's best chance to get his Major titles count going. Andy just beat Federer and he's obviously getting a little out of his prime and has a family to take care of. Nadal in New York has never been a winning combination, and Murray really has success against him on hard courts and he beat Rafa in Toronto as well. Murray is playing great tennis and is playing much more aggresive, which helped him to a Rogers Cup win last week. I see Andy Murray taking his first major title at the US Open, his chance is too big. If he keeps his Rogers Cup form going and he's being aggresive, nobody can beat him.

Thoughts on Murray at the 2010 US Open?

My prediction: Murray 2010 US Open Champion

i dont think you give fed enough credit. he had a really bad summer and has made a new beginning. you cant expect him to be in top shape right away. besides, losing to murray in an MM event wont bother him too much.

having said that, i too believe this is probably murrays best chance, but he has to avoid pushing which he hasnt done in a slam final so far.

Hugh Jaas
08-17-2010, 04:15 PM
I like his chances too, but against big hitters(Soderling and Berdych) he would not be the favourite, so it depends on the draw

This is the perfect time for Murray <or Daniel brands> to take the title. Look at the absence of the big hitters who could be a threat to lord Murray



Tsonga- OUT
delpony-OUT
GONZO-OUT?

Non injured threats


Birdshit- mental midget when not in 'the zone'. Not good playing in the heat.
soldering (http://www.india-server.com/news/robin-soldering-gets-top-billing-in-atp-16864.html)iron- erratic form recently losing to fat dave and Almugro.
The fixer- slump
monodick- mono slump
Ivan lubed up bitch- shouldn't be in the top 50. Fluke masters title.
Robert dee- Dark horse (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Strange-News/Tennis-Worlds-Worst-Player-Robert-Dee-Loses-Legal-Action-Against-Daily-Telegraph/Article/201004415622313)

Priam
08-17-2010, 04:30 PM
He very well could. But let's see the draw first.

Persimmon
08-17-2010, 04:47 PM
I think Murray will lose in the finals to Federer :awww:

gusavo
08-17-2010, 05:12 PM
I like his chances too, but against big hitters(Soderling and Berdych) he would not be the favourite, so it depends on the draw

loll

Ben.
08-17-2010, 05:34 PM
He is the favourite unless someone shows some real form this week. He has proven he can beat Rafa on HC, and in Toronto proved that the loss at Wimbledon didn't change that.

The only time he has played Soderling since Soderling has been a factor was during his slump earlier this year, so I don't think we can look too much into that loss, though no doubt Soderling would be a big threat to him, along with Berdych. Djokovic hasn't shown much to suggest he can be a big threat.

So from the top guys that would leave Fed. He just beat him for the first time in a while and in a final so that's going to be a huge boost for Murray, don't think that will be a factor for Federer. That match was a fair bit closer than it should have been though. Obviously there are big, big question marks about Federer himself so it really is tough to say.

This is looking like the most open major in a while though, the draw is going to be very important.

Start da Game
08-17-2010, 05:34 PM
I think this is Murray's best chance to get his Major titles count going. Andy just beat Federer and he's obviously getting a little out of his prime and has a family to take care of. Nadal in New York has never been a winning combination, and Murray really has success against him on hard courts and he beat Rafa in Toronto as well. Murray is playing great tennis and is playing much more aggresive, which helped him to a Rogers Cup win last week. I see Andy Murray taking his first major title at the US Open, his chance is too big. If he keeps his Rogers Cup form going and he's being aggresive, nobody can beat him.

Thoughts on Murray at the 2010 US Open?

My prediction: Murray 2010 US Open Champion

he's playing good tennis for sure(something which wasn't witnessed from him in recent times) and i don't think he will choke this time against fed in a slam.......i am just not sure if he will be able to withstand the kind of will nadal will exhibit in new york.......

no one wants this us open more than nadal.......no one.......

Goldenoldie
08-17-2010, 06:32 PM
The bigger the hype, the less chance he has of winning. I wonder if the British press have learned their lesson yet?

Look at some of the rubbish he played between January and August. Three excellent matches in Toronto, and the rest is all forgotten.

If anyone makes him favourite on the back of one good tournament I'll scream.

PandoraPandora
08-17-2010, 07:30 PM
I think this is Murray's best chance to get his Major titles count going. Andy just beat Federer and he's obviously getting a little out of his prime and has a family to take care of. Nadal in New York has never been a winning combination, and Murray really has success against him on hard courts and he beat Rafa in Toronto as well. Murray is playing great tennis and is playing much more aggresive, which helped him to a Rogers Cup win last week. I see Andy Murray taking his first major title at the US Open, his chance is too big. If he keeps his Rogers Cup form going and he's being aggresive, nobody can beat him.

Thoughts on Murray at the 2010 US Open?

My prediction: Murray 2010 US Open Champion

What you have said is what I would say!

Ibracadabra
08-17-2010, 07:31 PM
This is his last chance for a slam imo. Del potro will be back fit for the aus open and his window will have closed by then.

philosophicalarf
08-17-2010, 07:34 PM
The aggression would help if he keeps it up, won't tire himself in early rounds.

I think Berdy is the one he wants to avoid. Soderling he can move around more easily.

Ozone
08-17-2010, 08:13 PM
he's playing good tennis for sure(something which wasn't witnessed from him in recent times) and i don't think he will choke this time against fed in a slam.......i am just not sure if he will be able to withstand the kind of will nadal will exhibit in new york.......

no one wants this us open more than nadal.......no one.......
Rafa in New York is always:o And his Rogers Cup showing did not show you're last statement to be true

scoobs
08-17-2010, 08:14 PM
I'm desperate for him to do it but these days, I'll believe it when I see it...

green25814
08-17-2010, 09:02 PM
This is his last chance for a slam imo. Del potro will be back fit for the aus open and his window will have closed by then.

:spit:

Sapeod
08-17-2010, 09:04 PM
Yes, he will.
Is the favourite for sure.

Sapeod
08-17-2010, 09:04 PM
This is his last chance for a slam imo. Del potro will be back fit for the aus open and his window will have closed by then.
I like Delpo, but 5-1.

Mechlan
08-17-2010, 09:19 PM
I just hope he can make it through the early rounds without crashing and burning. He has the ability to win. If he plays well and gets beat, that's fine. But he shouldn't underachieve. And if he loses, I hope he loses playing aggressively.

HKz
08-17-2010, 09:42 PM
IMO this is all just hype still because Murray did very well at the end of 2008 through 2009 in best of 3 set matches beating Federer/Nadal/Djokovic/Del Potro multiple times, but struggled in best of 5 at the most crucial stages.

Yes he is in a different scenario by beating Nadal and Federer at the same tournament unlike last year where Tsonga and Del Potro kind of folded against him at the Roger's Cup, so mentally he might be in better shape than last year. However it is still too early to tell especially with Murray since like I said, it is a different ball game at the slams. Cincinnati may tell us how he will be, but my pick is that Murray should make the final at the US Open.

he's playing good tennis for sure(something which wasn't witnessed from him in recent times) and i don't think he will choke this time against fed in a slam.......i am just not sure if he will be able to withstand the kind of will nadal will exhibit in new york.......

no one wants this us open more than nadal.......no one.......

Just leave.

Sapeod
08-17-2010, 10:06 PM
he's playing good tennis for sure(something which wasn't witnessed from him in recent times) and i don't think he will choke this time against fed in a slam.......i am just not sure if he will be able to withstand the kind of will nadal will exhibit in new york.......

no one wants this us open more than nadal.......no one.......
:retard:

Murray has taken care of Nadal easily the last two times they played in HC slams :wavey:
Won't be any different if they meet again.

Everko
08-17-2010, 10:13 PM
he's playing good tennis for sure(something which wasn't witnessed from him in recent times) and i don't think he will choke this time against fed in a slam.......i am just not sure if he will be able to withstand the kind of will nadal will exhibit in new york.......

no one wants this us open more than nadal.......no one.......

Yes 100%. Murray is playing well but he always has when in masters events. He has yet to play that well in majors, he has made a couple finals but those were more because of bad opponent play.

Nadal knows how to bring it in slams and in New York

MIMIC
08-17-2010, 10:40 PM
I think he'll lose in the semis or the final. I think he'll probably win the Australian Open next year, though.

viruzzz
08-17-2010, 11:53 PM
The real Andy is such a wonderful player.
But I really think he couldn't get the USO this year.
Not this year, mates... Recognize it.

allpro
08-17-2010, 11:58 PM
Yes, he will.
Is the favourite for sure.

poor andy.......25 to Life jinx in full effect :sad:

Clydey
08-18-2010, 12:01 AM
This is his last chance for a slam imo. Del potro will be back fit for the aus open and his window will have closed by then.

Since when is Del Potro a huge obstacle? Murray consistently beats him on hard. I'll still be far more worried about Federer.

Sapeod
08-18-2010, 12:08 AM
poor andy.......25 to Life jinx in full effect :sad:
jinxes don't exist :retard:
even if i said delpo wouldn't win last year, he still would've :retard: :retard:
there's no such thing as jinxing :retard:

Manequin75
08-18-2010, 12:24 AM
Toronto Draw:

Rafa+ Murray - top half
Fed + Djkovich - bottom half

Cincy Draw:

Rafa + Fed - top half
Djkovich + Murray - bottom half


US Open then should be:

Rafa + Djokovich - top half
Fed + Murray - bottom half

assuming the above plays out i think Andy might not be able to take 3 sets off Fed. Maybe one or two. Dont think three. If Fed loses to somebody else and Murray can avoid him I think Murray's chances dramatically increase. I just dont see Fed losing to Murray in a best of five set match.

Ozone
08-18-2010, 02:35 AM
Yes 100%. Murray is playing well but he always has when in masters events. He has yet to play that well in majors, he has made a couple finals but those were more because of bad opponent play.

Nadal knows how to bring it in slams and in New York
Those New York results sure support this :spit:

Mimi
08-18-2010, 04:22 AM
he can, if he does not have to face Roger in the final, he better faces Roger in semi, the mental scare of having losing to roger twice in the finals may affect his performances

Ibracadabra
08-18-2010, 06:47 AM
I like Delpo, but 5-1.

Means nothing, santoro also had a similar record over marat safin.

Priam
08-18-2010, 07:38 AM
It's all in his head when it comes to the slams. He'll need to get that monkey off his back sooner or later.

Drugs Ruin Lives
08-18-2010, 09:16 AM
Judy Murray has more chance of winning a slam than Andy Murray.

coonster14
08-18-2010, 09:24 AM
Murray always has a good chance at the US Open, he needs to get through the early rounds with as little wear and tear as possible to ensure he is physically and mentally fresh from the quarters onwards.

I would like to see Murray finally win his first major and get that monkey off his back.

But got to be honest, I have no idea who is going to win the US Open this year, it's too open and there is not just one overwhelming favourite.
I would pick the top 3 contenders at the moment to be Federer, Nadal and Murray, and then you have the second group that includes Djokovic, Berdych and Soderling.

sabina_RF_lee
08-18-2010, 09:58 AM
Murray is playin fantastic tennis now, but USO will be taken by Roger

Sapeod
08-18-2010, 03:04 PM
Means nothing, santoro also had a similar record over marat safin.
Means a lot, considering you think that Delpo will be an obstacle to Murray.
5 wins, 3 since Delpo started playing big, say otherwise.
Murray is one of the few people who can beat Delpo playing at his best.
Judy Murray has more chance of winning a slam than Andy Murray.
What an original comment :retard:

Start da Game
08-18-2010, 05:06 PM
Yes 100%. Murray is playing well but he always has when in masters events. He has yet to play that well in majors, he has made a couple finals but those were more because of bad opponent play.

Nadal knows how to bring it in slams and in New York

his delusional fans fail to realize that toronto is not big enough anymore for rafa to display his typical fighting qualities.......i am glad that rafa doesn't seem to care for these lesser events as much as he used to do say a year ago.......not that he doesn't care at all but i definitely don't see any desperation.......he was beaten by lopez in queen's and he exactly knew what was going on......besides all that, match play and practice were lacking in any case when we talk about toronto.......

murray is tough to beat on a hardcourt, agreed.......but nadal is even more tougher to beat in slams.......murray still doesn't know how to elevate his game like nadal does and that's the reason why nadal has 1 hardcourt slam and murray zero despite nadal's worst surface being hard.......

i don't buy this bullshit of murray being an unbeatable force for rafa in hardcourt slams.......he was just lucky enough to find nadal totally exhausted in 08 and injured this year in AO.......murray played well enough to beat any hopes nadal had but that's where it ends.......nothing more than that.......

come us open and see how nadal deals with murray there, after having played some matches and having the feel of the hardcourts.......

ORGASMATRON
08-18-2010, 05:19 PM
he can, if he does not have to face Roger in the final, he better faces Roger in semi, the mental scare of having losing to roger twice in the finals may affect his performances

this. murray isnt beating roger in the final. he has to hope roger holds on to his number 2 ranking in cincy.

HKz
08-18-2010, 05:20 PM
his delusional fans fail to realize that toronto is not big enough anymore for rafa to display his typical fighting qualities.......i am glad that rafa doesn't seem to care for these lesser events as much as he used to do say a year ago.......not that he doesn't care at all but i definitely don't see any desperation.......he was beaten by lopez in queen's and he exactly knew what was going on......besides all that, match play and practice were lacking in any case when we talk about toronto.......

Then does that make Federer the bigger fighter? I thought your girlfriend Nadal was supposed to be the player with the most heart on the ATP never ever giving up and now you're telling us otherwise? :worship:

ORGASMATRON
08-18-2010, 05:34 PM
every time a thread like this is started and murray fails to win a slam, his chances of ever winning a slam gets less. what happened last year btw? murray may fold under the pressure of being the favorite again like so many times before.

Start da Game
08-18-2010, 05:44 PM
Then does that make Federer the bigger fighter? I thought your girlfriend Nadal was supposed to be the player with the most heart on the ATP never ever giving up and now you're telling us otherwise? :worship:

fighter needs a bullring, fangirl.......not a domestic backyard like toronto.......slams is what counts for nadal.......why don't you recollect toronto 2008 once? murray was starting to have the best season of his career and rafa blasted him in straight sets in the semis because he really wanted to win everything back then.......

the mindset these days seems to be changing for the good.......it's not the question of fighting qualities........

at this point in career after having achieved 18 masters shields, the whole focus seems to be shifting towards slams and very rightly so.......

why did he fight like hell against djokovic in a 250 event like queens in 2008? simply because he just wanted that title.......

he knows that he doesn't need to show that kind of intensity anymorein events which are lesser than slams.......not that he cannot.......

HKz
08-18-2010, 05:50 PM
fighter needs a bullring, fangirl.......not a domestic backyard like toronto.......slams is what counts for nadal.......why don't you recollect toronto 2008 once? murray was starting to have the best season of his career and rafa blasted him in straight sets in the semis because he really wanted to win everything back then.......

the mindset these days seems to be changing for the good.......it's not the question of fighting qualities........

at this point in career after having achieved 18 masters shields, the whole focus seems to be shifting towards slams and very rightly so.......

why did he fight like hell against djokovic in a 250 event like queens in 2008? simply because he just wanted that title.......

he knows that he doesn't need to show that kind of intensity anymorein events which are lesser than slams.......not that he cannot.......

You........didn't...........answer..........my.... ........question...........clown...........

Everko
08-18-2010, 05:56 PM
HKz nobody would care if you left this forum. All you do is harass me,STG,CD and Nadal fans. When have you actually used any of your own thoughts rather than be the "ccol" guy who pokes fun at others. You still the big high school bully I guess

HKz
08-18-2010, 05:58 PM
HKz nobody would care if you left this forum. All you do is harass me,STG,CD and Nadal fans. When have you actually used any of your own thoughts rather than be the "ccol" guy who pokes fun at others. You still the big high school bully I guess

What? Oh, it is your reputation calling.

You aren't fans. There are plenty of true Nadal fans who don't go around talking bullshit like you, start da fail and among others. Clearly you guys obsess over a player rather than obsess over tennis.

I believe that Federer will fall in 2010. Down the rankings. I think the game iscatching up to him, he is now vulnerable to players like Benneteau and Verdasco. Meanwhile Del Potro is now a force, Djokovic is coming back strongly and we all Nadal will vamos back next year after he is properly rested. I hate it but Murray will also be a factor. Plus players like Davydenko are suddenly playing better than before. Plus they might be a breakout player next year that we don't know yet.

Federer himslef. His game has gone down a bit, just enough for the younger generation to catapult over him. Federer has enough game to stay competitive in masters. He will focus on the Slams. He will go deep in a few. But I am confiendt he will fail to win one next year.

All this equals Federer falling down to 5 or 6 in the rankings at the conslusion of 2010. and then the question is, will he be ready to play as the 5 or 6 player for 2011.

Discuss:)

The Australian Open is so far away from any other slam its almost like its own season. 18 months away from RG and 20 from the US Open. All the other 3 are bunched into a 14 week window. The fall of Federer is happening this year like I said it was. His OZ open win was a carry over from his 2009 self. The 2010 self is falling and will continue to fall in the rankings.

And who will forget this fail?

http://i45.tinypic.com/2jcbqt1.jpg

Sapeod
08-18-2010, 06:06 PM
HKz nobody would care if you left this forum. All you do is harass me,STG,CD and Nadal fans. When have you actually used any of your own thoughts rather than be the "ccol" guy who pokes fun at others. You still the big high school bully I guess
Nobody would care if you left the forum.
Everyone was happy when you got banned :lol:

Ozone
08-18-2010, 06:13 PM
Nobody would care if you left the forum.
Everyone was happy when you got banned :lol:
You telling other people this is downright ironic:o

cutesteve22
08-18-2010, 06:23 PM
semi

gusavo
08-19-2010, 11:52 PM
Means nothing, santoro also had a similar record over marat safin.
"he has no chance versus pot" "5-1"
"means nothing, he has no chance"
"the 5 stands for matches won against pot, 1 stands for matches lost"
"oh, im sorry, master"

allpro
09-06-2010, 12:13 AM
Yes, he will.

poor andy.......25 to Life jinx in full effect :sad:

jinxes don't exist :retard:
even if i said delpo wouldn't win last year, he still would've :retard: :retard:
there's no such thing as jinxing :retard:

now do you believe in jinxes?

gbmkc
09-06-2010, 12:38 AM
Murray lost. End of thread?

Rafa = Fed Killa
09-06-2010, 05:55 AM
Nobody would care if you left the forum.
Everyone was happy when you got banned :lol:

Murray fans - they know tennis :rolleyes:

sabina_RF_lee
09-06-2010, 10:55 AM
:rolls:

born_on_clay
09-06-2010, 11:15 AM
:haha:
dedicated to Word Life :haha:

Topspindoctor
09-06-2010, 12:28 PM
Muzza tanked in order to avoid Rafa in SF, we all know what happened last time they met in a grand slam :lol: