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Remaining Serve Volleyers

Xavier7
08-16-2010, 02:53 AM
I can think of:

Stepanek
Fish
Llodra
Petzchner
Taylor Dent
Rajeev Ram
Kendrick
Mahut
Ivan Navarro
Mario Ancic
Richard Bloomfield
Chris Eaton

Who else is there?

Sapeod
08-16-2010, 02:55 AM
Not a pure serve and volleyer, but Lopez does it a lot on grass :shrug:

ImmzB
08-16-2010, 02:58 AM
Bopanna, Qureshi

Serenidad
08-16-2010, 07:54 AM
Brands is capable of this as well. He can pull off any tactic. See 2009 RG R1.

latso
08-16-2010, 10:39 AM
I would even take Petzschner and Ancic off the list

There aren't many left, are there?

Not even one of them in top 30 (if we don't count Lalo who isn't the cleanest s&v player and if we assume Radek's fair position in the 50s..)

tsonga used to do this more often b4 and he was much more attractive back then, compared to now when he figured out he can play BH and stay more on the baseline.

Llodra is my fav s&v player and even though very prone to tanking, i still have some respect for the guy.

_Chaz
08-16-2010, 10:42 AM
Micha Zverev plays S&V too but isn´t in the top 100 anymore.

latso
08-16-2010, 10:52 AM
Micha Zverev plays S&V too but isn´t in the top 100 anymore.
ah, true, forgot about this one.

Makes me remember Gilles Muller who does it as well.

Ad Wim
08-16-2010, 10:54 AM
Kubot.

laurie-1
08-16-2010, 10:58 AM
The pity of the serve and volley tactic is that has now become the domain of the journeyman.

In previous decades many attackers were all court players or baseliners who converted their game. Many of those players could play from the baseline and from the net, moved well and could return serve well to create opportunities.

The last 7 years however have seen a glut of serve volleyers who couldn't return serve well and couldn't stay in a rally for more than a few shots at best, hence the over chipping and charging tactic. Its disappointing and I don't really enjoy watching the current breed of serve and volleyers.

To give some examples. Chris Eaton really struggles to stay in any rally. I mentioned some tiome ago how surprised I was when I saw Dent play against Roddick at Queens. His backhand and return of serve were so technically poor. And that was in 2003 before all of the injury issues.

Who knows what will happen in future. If for instance, Indoor events decide for some reason to pull up the hard courts and go back to carpet courts (after all we keep hearing how punishing hard courts are on the body, and then they put them indoors as well :rolleyes:) Then maybe more players might use the tactic.

In 2005 Jim Courier was interviewed on BBC radio during Wimbledon, he said that the removal of carpet courts in his opinion was the main reason for the decline of attacking players. If the better players use the tactic more, then the level will rise naturally.

Snowwy
08-16-2010, 11:01 AM
Dancevic

DartMarcus
08-16-2010, 11:31 AM
Fish and Llodra are the only 2 who can beat top ten guys playing S&V. Petzchner is the one to watch as well. Maybe Stepanek as well if he gets his form back.
All others are not consistent enough to be top 50 players. :(

orangehat
08-16-2010, 11:43 AM
Petzschner isn't really S&V anymore... pity.

Orka_n
08-16-2010, 11:59 AM
Karlovic.

MurrayFan1
08-16-2010, 12:03 PM
So basically any one dimensional boring player who might get a sniff at the top 50 on a good week.

PS I understand Fish/Llodra/Stepanek are also quite good!

Echoes
08-16-2010, 02:15 PM
[...]

Interesting post.

Mahut also said that indoor tournaments were slower on the whole but didn't complaint about it. "The audience like it better" he said. I'm part of the audience and I really preferred the carpet. :lol:

What I find funny is that Federer found as an excuse for his boycott of Bercy that carpet wasn't good for his balance (if I'm not mistaken) while hard court is certainly not any better.

But didn't Courier talk about the racket and string technology evolution? I think the explanation may also be found there.

emotion
08-16-2010, 02:26 PM
Llodra, Petz, Fish, Kubot, Lopez are only people who can really pull it off. Stepanek too if he can come back.

Sapeod
08-16-2010, 02:54 PM
Lopez and Llodra are the highest ranked players who volley a lot?
That's surprising.
Serve and volley really has gone way way down from a few years ago, hasn't it?

wlodar
08-16-2010, 03:12 PM
Klaasen
Van der Merwe
Sadecky
Emmrich
Begemann
Amritraj
Brown
Kontinen
Rojer
David Martin
Kendrick
Santiago Gonzalez
Arlidge
Skupski
Feeney
Groth
Stolt
Marx

Har-Tru
08-16-2010, 03:13 PM
Petzschner isn't really S&V anymore... pity.

He S&Vd a lot on grass this year.

dombrfc
08-16-2010, 03:24 PM
Dent Dent Dent :)

laurie-1
08-16-2010, 09:33 PM
Interesting post.

Mahut also said that indoor tournaments were slower on the whole but didn't complaint about it. "The audience like it better" he said. I'm part of the audience and I really preferred the carpet. :lol:

What I find funny is that Federer found as an excuse for his boycott of Bercy that carpet wasn't good for his balance (if I'm not mistaken) while hard court is certainly not any better.

But didn't Courier talk about the racket and string technology evolution? I think the explanation may also be found there.

One of a combination of factors, racquets and string technology - but I think the lack of carpet courts certainly play a big role.

And of course, coaches not teaching youngsters to do it. Apparently Marat Safin's mother is famous for not teaching girls how to volley because she reckons it's not needed in the womens game.

That will explain why Dinara Safina was by far the most technically deficient number 1 player I have ever seen and could never stay in that position, even taking injuries into consideration.

straitup
08-16-2010, 09:39 PM
There's really not many pure serve volleyers left...and a few of those guys like Ancic, etc have kinda strayed from that serve/volley game

Zverev just didn't make sense to me at all...every time I saw him, he just stayed at the baseline and didn't hit the ball well at all

Henry Chinaski
08-16-2010, 11:35 PM
Zverev only plays sv on grass. Even indoors he's a mug baseline pusher.

Ancic is boring grinder 90% of the time too.

Filo V.
08-17-2010, 02:47 AM
Most of the players who are generally listed as S&V players aren't true S&V players. There are not many pure 100% S&V players left at all, and that is based on racquet technology, slowed speed of surface, and the fact that style of play is demanding on the body and hard to perfect.

leng jai
08-17-2010, 07:31 AM
Haas has become one of the better S&Vers on tour even though he only started doing it seriously last year. A sad reflection on the state of today's game.

*bunny*
08-17-2010, 08:38 AM
Takao Suzuki :angel:

MacTheKnife
08-17-2010, 12:38 PM
I guess if a guy has come in behind a serve once in his career he is now considered a S&V'er.. :lol:

New Balls Please
08-17-2010, 12:54 PM
Takao Suzuki :angel:

How could I have forgotten Takao Suzuki?! Even though I've only seen one match of his: His match against Federer at the Australian Open many years ago was extremely entertaining!

scarecrows
08-17-2010, 03:02 PM
even Dent played very little S/V yday against a clown returner like Lopez

yonexforever
08-17-2010, 06:35 PM
Tsonga started off as a S & V, but only does is sparingly now, prob due to all his injuries.