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Toronto SF: Federer def. Djokovic 6-1, 3-6, 7-5

MIMIC
08-15-2010, 02:33 AM
THE CIRCUS IS IN TOWN!

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Recap of the match: :spit:

3rd set was entertaining, though. Inspired rallies and both men were redlining their game.

olli2011
08-15-2010, 02:34 AM
Federer is only a lucky guy!

daddy
08-15-2010, 02:34 AM
what a great Match!!! King's not dead just yet!

Diprosalic
08-15-2010, 02:34 AM
did all the games have fireworks? :lol:

samanosuke
08-15-2010, 02:34 AM
Ugly Ugly Ugly Ugly Ugly Ugly

azinna
08-15-2010, 02:34 AM
Players not taking their chances....letting Fedex get that aura back.

Hola Mr. SK
08-15-2010, 02:35 AM
Good to see Fed starting to win some tight matches again

oematoema
08-15-2010, 02:35 AM
GOAT of suspense, never a dull moment with Daddy Federer.

bluefork
08-15-2010, 02:36 AM
That was...pretty bad. Djokovic went from absolutely horrible to fairly solid. Then back to horrible. Then back to good. And capped it off with horrible.

For his part, Federer is really liking the drama this week. I guess it's good that he's making it through these tough matches. But why can't he focus and play two full sets of good tennis?

samanosuke
08-15-2010, 02:36 AM
Fed was hardly trying to choke it but Djokovic was too strong

ossie
08-15-2010, 02:36 AM
:haha:

ORGASMATRON
08-15-2010, 02:37 AM
just another day at the office for federer. vida :bigwave:

Brick Top
08-15-2010, 02:37 AM
Lots of Fed worshiping Indians in the crowd

aussie_fan
08-15-2010, 02:37 AM
Horrific quality match, sure entertaing rallies and drama at times but both would be annoyed with the amount of unforced errors. Just glad Novak wasn't gifted a Masters 1000 final.

scarecrows
08-15-2010, 02:37 AM
immense match

djokovic back in form, he had all the chances to win this but Fed hung in there

philosophicalarf
08-15-2010, 02:37 AM
1st set: Fed brilliant, totally one sided.
2nd set: Fed goes break up, and then Masters-Fed turns up (aka Federror).
3rd set: mugfest. Djokovic chokes hard last game to give away the match.

swebright
08-15-2010, 02:38 AM
The organizers apparently thought it was a final match.

neme6
08-15-2010, 02:39 AM
lol, Djokovic told Federer in the end at the net that Fed should have won the match way earlier! Roger just said it in the interview

samanosuke
08-15-2010, 02:39 AM
Official the worst match up

garytennis
08-15-2010, 02:39 AM
What a great win for Roger ! I need to sleep now... lol

habibko
08-15-2010, 02:39 AM
Roger wins another tight match :worship:

good luck tomorrow, hope he won't be too tired :unsure:

Persimmon
08-15-2010, 02:40 AM
Nid.

swebright
08-15-2010, 02:40 AM
Lots of Fed worshiping Indians in the crowd

So....

Certinfy
08-15-2010, 02:40 AM
Horrible match. I expect Murray to take out the trash tomorrow.

straitup
08-15-2010, 02:40 AM
First set and a half was horrendous, maybe one of the worst performances I've seen from a top player. Then suddenly Djokovic reeled off 6 of the next 7 games :lol: with much better play and Federror made an appearance. Third set was exciting stuff, Djokovic had his chances but in the end couldn't hold on.

coonster14
08-15-2010, 02:41 AM
only watched the last 2 games unfortunately. but the 2nd last game, nole had chances, and then smashes his racquet, i knew that was the end for him.

interesting final between murray and roger, good chance for roger to even up that head to head against murray.

Nole :o, had a chance to get yourself off Roger's pigeons list, but no good, 5-10 now.

swebright
08-15-2010, 02:41 AM
I think some indian restaurant is one of the sponsors; they just show win a trip to India on my TV. So, they must have got some free tickets.

SerenaFederer
08-15-2010, 02:43 AM
:)

ORGASMATRON
08-15-2010, 02:43 AM
wheres vida? :bigwave:

~Maya~
08-15-2010, 02:43 AM
Typical match for these two

Clydey
08-15-2010, 02:45 AM
I wonder if fireworks would have gone off if Nole had won.

dusan1610
08-15-2010, 02:46 AM
Novak nooooo backhand unforced error on Break point on second service of Federer on 5-5.

TheBoiledEgg
08-15-2010, 02:46 AM
good to see Roger edge another close one

painting yellow lines over Novak Hedgehog :lol:
well done Roger :devil:

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/12/article-1281644692890-0AC6AB55000005DC-980129_636x469.jpg

BigJohn
08-15-2010, 02:46 AM
Quite relieved

swebright
08-15-2010, 02:47 AM
I wonder if fireworks would have gone off if Nole had won.

Probably not. It's rather strange. They may not have anything left for tomorrow.:devil:

green25814
08-15-2010, 02:47 AM
Entertaining match, Nole went from the sublime to nightmarish.

Arakasi
08-15-2010, 02:47 AM
A comedy of errors with great points here and there. The quality of tennis was horrific but the drama was endless. Djokovic's start was abysmal and Federer was giving a masterclass in throwing leads away.

For some reason matches between these two always seem to be pretty poor quality. I remember the game when Novak was serving out the first set in their match at Basel last year, both of them were incapable of stringing two good points together. It was absolutely ridiculous. Suffice to say, this match carried on from exactly where they left off.

Please win in straights tomorrow Roger. I don't think I can handle the drama of another third set.

Mechlan
08-15-2010, 02:48 AM
Entertaining stuff in the end, which was... really unexpected. Novak had some really good play in there somewhere after a horrible start. Federer's level great again in the first set and mediocre afterwards. Got the final I was hoping for, hope it's a good one.

Dini
08-15-2010, 02:49 AM
Rogers cup did something weird like that last year congratulating Fed and Mirka on babies or something IIRC. These celebrations or whatever are a bit much as it's harsh on the loser. I doubt Nole was feeling like fireworks after he threw that shocker of a game to lose it in the end.

ORGASMATRON
08-15-2010, 02:49 AM
smart this GOAT. he gives his rivals a taste and then breaks them mentally before the USO.

allpro
08-15-2010, 02:50 AM
a roller coaster match that fed needed to close out in straights to have any kind of a chance against mugray tomorrow.

ZaZoo)
08-15-2010, 02:50 AM
Tight match, with Djoko serving strong serves like Fed he would do much heavier damage.

Nole fan
08-15-2010, 02:50 AM
I hope Murray crushes Fed tomorrow... my God, does this guy have more lives than a cat? :rolleyes:
I don't know what was that in the first set, Novak was completely absent, it looked like he was about to get an embarrassing beating. All of a sudden he steps up his game and Federror comes again. In the third set Novak deserved to win, Roger only took it because of his free points with the serve. Apart from that he lost every single point from the baseline, he was constantly outplayed by Novak! This will be emotionally devastating for Novak. Really bad start and then some guts and perfect groundstrokes took him where he should have been from the start. Sadly he got tight in the important moments. This match was a thriller, every game was 40-40! I agree they are a bad match-up though, I wonder why.

Persimmon
08-15-2010, 02:51 AM
smart this GOAT. he gives his rivals a taste and then breaks them mentally before the USO.

Tomorrow it's Murray's turn.:awww:

jasmin
08-15-2010, 02:51 AM
I wish Fed would play at full capacity the whole match so he could win in 2 because he's the better player but nooooo. He always start to relax. These days players these days are to good to do that. This match should have been over.

superslam77
08-15-2010, 02:52 AM
Novak deserved to win? more like Fed choking...should have gone 5-2 in the 3rd but :lol:

paseo
08-15-2010, 02:52 AM
Fed vs Djokovic matches are always full of UEs.

Nole fan
08-15-2010, 02:54 AM
Fed vs Djokovic matches are always full of UEs.

Someone has a valid explanation for that? i'd like to know...

ORGASMATRON
08-15-2010, 02:54 AM
Tomorrow it's Murray's turn.:awww:

:haha: i think he plans on giving murrays some match points.

Forehander
08-15-2010, 02:54 AM
Lol they're probably really nervous playing against each other nowadays due to past dramas :p

neenah
08-15-2010, 02:55 AM
It wasn't easy, but it was deserved in the end.

ORGASMATRON
08-15-2010, 02:55 AM
Novak deserved to win? more like Fed choking...should have gone 5-2 in the 3rd but :lol:

hey superslam :cool: good to be a fedfan, no? :D

Arakasi
08-15-2010, 02:56 AM
In the third set Novak deserved to win, Roger only took it because of his free points with the serve.

Believe it or not, the serve is a part of tennis. :o

Arakasi
08-15-2010, 02:57 AM
Fed vs Djokovic matches are always full of UEs.

Yep.

Rita
08-15-2010, 02:57 AM
Horrible match. I expect Murray to take out the trash tomorrow.
I'm afraid Murray can't take himself out.

ZaZoo)
08-15-2010, 02:58 AM
[QUOTE=Nole fan;10249216]In the third set Novak deserved to win, Roger only took it because of his free points with the serve. QUOTE]

Believe it or not, the serve is a part of tennis. :o

Believe it or not, that was the only thing out of many things Fed kept in match, it's kinda sad Nole has so good ground game and his serve has worsen big time, it used to be like Feds.

green25814
08-15-2010, 02:59 AM
Believe it or not, the serve is a part of tennis. :o

:haha:

superslam77
08-15-2010, 02:59 AM
hey superslam :cool: good to be a fedfan, no? :D

finally good days again

Fed wins tomorrow and i go crazy. I only like to visit your site to give the good news
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MacTheKnife
08-15-2010, 03:00 AM
Good match from fed but still very inconsistent. Djok hung in there till jesusfed departed, then had plenty of chances to take this but that serve is still like a roller coaster.
Should be an interesting match tomorrow with both fed AND murray trying to play more aggressive tennis.

recessional
08-15-2010, 03:02 AM
Rogers cup did something weird like that last year congratulating Fed and Mirka on babies or something IIRC. These celebrations or whatever are a bit much as it's harsh on the loser. I doubt Nole was feeling like fireworks after he threw that shocker of a game to lose it in the end.

i thought that was something the fans did. hmm. anyway, didn't they also light fireworks after one of rafa's matches?

I'm afraid Murray can't take himself out.

:lol: :o

hilluis
08-15-2010, 03:04 AM
About the long rallies which Novak was winning more often than not in the last set. Why is this? Do you think it is because Djoko plays the angles well and Federer is stubborn and continues to rally in the same way? It seemed to me that he jammed Novak up more when he hit straight to him and didnt allow him to hit all those cross-court angles.

ORGASMATRON
08-15-2010, 03:06 AM
finally good days again

Fed wins tomorrow and i go crazy. I only like to visit your site to give the good news
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The Magician
08-15-2010, 03:10 AM
Federror almost gifted it away, but Roger fought against himself to pull out the win. Some amazing rallies mixed with wild errors, pretty much what we've come to expect from Nole-Fed match.

Dupuis2006
08-15-2010, 03:12 AM
My Tivo stopped recording at 6-1, 3-6, 6-5, 30-30 :spit:
So happy he pulled it out! :D

stewart
08-15-2010, 03:13 AM
Djokovic started out terrible, but stepped up his game from the second set. Some of his groundstrokes were really amazing, and he was able to return more of Federer's serves. Both players made some unforced errors, but overall the match was very good and both of them are winners. Djokovic really needs to make some improvement in his serve. It hurts to watch him work so hard in his service games. He is going to play better and better in this hardcourt season.

KoOlMaNsEaN
08-15-2010, 03:13 AM
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This tournament has been amazing for Roger.
So nice to celebrate and be excited about Roger wins instead of moping about Roger losses.

ONE WIN LEFT, BEAT MURRAY TOMORROW!!!

habibko
08-15-2010, 03:15 AM
DUSiG1l6rk0

paseo
08-15-2010, 03:20 AM
Is there a video on Fed's post-match interview?

tennisfan856
08-15-2010, 03:20 AM
All I have to say is if you ever were curious about betting on tennis or interested in making money off of it, this is the match to show you how life is on the atp tour on a daily basis. Sure, the momentum swinged extremely in this match, but the emotional investment just takes a toll on you.

P.S. Novak, stop being a drama queen and go back to the one that I hated in 2007. This Pillsbury doughboy is depressing.

Leo
08-15-2010, 03:30 AM
Really fun match. This is what we've been lacking for almost all of 2010, and I'm glad we got it tonight: an exciting match between two top players with a lot (the #2 ranking, spot in the final) on the line. I was definitely entertained.

Djokovic literally was playing the worst match of his life up until 1-6, 0*-2, 0-30. I think through those 9.5 games he had an unbelievable 21 unforced errors on the backhand side! He ended the match with about 31, so he definitely improved from that side as the match went on. But it's rare to see his backhand in such poor form - usually that's the steady shot. What is most encouraging about this match for Novak is that it was the best hitting he's exhibited against Roger Federer since his AO 2008 win. Finally he didn't just play wimpy tennis, as he has in their last two USO SF meetings. It looked like his strategy from the start was to go after Fed, but the problem was that he was cluelessly bashing the ball, and Federer was too sharp. Near the brink of complete collapse, he finally remembered how to construct a point and wait for the right shot to punish. He was also reading Fed's serve extremely well in the last two sets and consistently hitting returns deep down the middle of the court. That was one of the factors that took Roger out of his rhythm. But it was those two anxious service games in the 3rd that let Nole down; IMO he should have won and would have if he was calmer and more confident. But he hasn't had any big wins for a long time so it's unsurprising that the doubt sneaked in. He looked optimistic as he left the court and at least he salvaged himself from a huge embarrassment in front of a full Rexall Centre.

Final recap: Federer needs to practice his return, Djok needs to practice his serve, and both need to improve their break point conversions.

Leo
08-15-2010, 03:34 AM
That was...pretty bad. Djokovic went from absolutely horrible to fairly solid. Then back to horrible. Then back to good. And capped it off with horrible.

Djokovic showed the full range tonight from F to A+, and a lot in between.

For his part, Federer is really liking the drama this week. I guess it's good that he's making it through these tough matches. But why can't he focus and play two full sets of good tennis?

He's always struggled with focus. Plus now he's old. So......

Toaderling
08-15-2010, 03:34 AM
:inlove: Repeat of the US Open 2007 after this please.

swebright
08-15-2010, 03:45 AM
Roger regained #2 ranking?? That's good.

This last game is pretty good but Novak gave up more points than Roger getting winners.

Forehander
08-15-2010, 03:49 AM
lol @ the fireworks.

FlameOn
08-15-2010, 04:11 AM
Nice choke Nole. How many crucial points late in the third set did you squander with errors while Fed was doing nothing but keep the ball in play? :o

Still, nice recovery after the first set. :yeah:

iriraz
08-15-2010, 05:16 AM
Federer could have won 6-1 6-3 after having a lead in the second set but for his confidence it does really well winning these tough tight matches which he was loosing at the start of the year

guga2120
08-15-2010, 05:36 AM
Again, another opponent chokes against Roger. Hopefully Andy, does not do that, like he did in London in last year against Roger.

sabina_RF_lee
08-15-2010, 05:39 AM
Everyone was doubt that he can even rich the quaarters, now he is in the final. He is still Federer great champion who beats those guys even in his worst form. Congratulation!!!!! Even if he doesnt win the tittle he proved that he is Federer.

habibko
08-15-2010, 05:48 AM
oF6hO8TD0Mc

habibko
08-15-2010, 05:54 AM
Again, another opponent chokes against Roger. Hopefully Andy, does not do that, like he did in London in last year against Roger.

I thought this was the great era where Fed will never have it as easy as he did in the past, and where slams won post-2008 are like 10 folds more significant than slams pre-2008 :confused:

glad Fed is STILL beating up this "tough" era of youngsters even as an old man and proving his legendary status and quality, enjoying it while it lasts :D

Arkulari
08-15-2010, 06:05 AM
Again, another opponent chokes against Roger. Hopefully Andy, does not do that, like he did in London in last year against Roger.

Roger was the one doing the choking in most of the match ;)

sabina_RF_lee
08-15-2010, 06:15 AM
thanks for the interview!

paseo
08-15-2010, 06:52 AM
oF6hO8TD0Mc

Thanks habibko.

Not too banged up? Is Fed already preparing an excuse? :D

DuMa
08-15-2010, 08:12 AM
No one beats Roger in his own cup.

Rita
08-15-2010, 08:22 AM
Roger led 6-1 2-0 and then 4-2 ad in the third and for some reason Djokovic is the one who choked :spit:

Acer
08-15-2010, 08:32 AM
Roger led 6-1 2-0 and then 4-2 ad in the third and for some reason Djokovic is the one who choked :spit:

I know right?

Arkulari
08-15-2010, 08:37 AM
guys, you know the laws of MTF: if Roger loses is because he's a washed out old man who has nothing on the young powerful guns, if he wins that's because the opponent choked

God forbid they ever give credit to him :o

Eden
08-15-2010, 09:00 AM
oF6hO8TD0Mc

Notice how Roger mentions the AO as Andy's first GS final. Apparently he seems to have forgotten that he played Andy in the 2008 USO final :lol:

Arkulari
08-15-2010, 09:01 AM
it's the age, Roger is getting senile :p

belco
08-15-2010, 09:01 AM
uploaded on tennishaven ;)

Björki
08-15-2010, 09:39 AM
:sad:

Drugs Ruin Lives
08-15-2010, 09:57 AM
Federer is old.

Andi-M
08-15-2010, 10:47 AM
Very entertaining match even though the quality was up and down. I have to say I've not seen Djokovic play so well as he was during the 2nd set for about 2 years he really was hiiting the ball well.

Fed was good when it mattered, but based on the way the both played today Murray would be the favorite imo. But how is Andy mentally against Fed thats the big question?

FlameOn
08-15-2010, 11:04 AM
guys, you know the laws of MTF: if Roger loses is because he's a washed out old man who has nothing on the young powerful guns, if he wins that's because the opponent choked

God forbid they ever give credit to him :o
You have to admit Nole choked late in the third though. 15-40, and Adv. and then multiple game points next game. And Roger really didn't do anything at that stage except keep the ball in play.

Ad Wim
08-15-2010, 11:16 AM
Very entertaining match even though the quality was up and down. I have to say I've not seen Djokovic play so well as he was during the 2nd set for about 2 years he really was hiiting the ball well.

Fed was good when it mattered, but based on the way the both played today Murray would be the favorite imo. But how is Andy mentally against Fed thats the big question?

Well, he's still ahead in H2H and dying to get revenge I think. And a tournament would also be nice for him for a change.

Vida
08-15-2010, 12:00 PM
:ras: djokovic in his 'nole' suit pre-choked heavily. fed was ripe, but saved by his aura. shame really.

congrats fed :yeah:

ORGASMATRON
08-15-2010, 12:20 PM
:ras: djokovic in his 'nole' suit pre-choked heavily. fed was ripe, but saved by his aura. shame really.

congrats fed :yeah:

:bigwave:

born_on_clay
08-15-2010, 12:40 PM
sad ;(

nole_no1
08-15-2010, 12:53 PM
It looked like Djokovic will be fucking destroyed but i am glad he didn't give up and his game was better and better....untill the end when he sadly choked (he had 3 bp's at 5-5 :sad:)
Come on Roger in the final

Ceri
08-15-2010, 01:56 PM
Roger looking really good! Yes, Djoko probably not on top form but he was getting outplayed by Fed for much of the match. Nice job Roger - onwards and upwards! :wavey:

Nole fan
08-15-2010, 03:05 PM
Roger looking really good! Yes, Djoko probably not on top form but he was getting outplayed by Fed for much of the match. Nice job Roger - onwards and upwards! :wavey:

Obviously you didn't see the match at all. Djokovic was only outplayed in the first set and first two games of the second. From then on he constantly outplayed Federer. As someone said earlier, Novak choked in the third set when Federer was only putting the ball on play. Novak was the one hitting super clean shots as federer mentions. Should Roger have won much earlier? yes, but he didn't, because nowadays he gets tight and nervous and erratic and he's not the same self-assured man he was before. And then Novak had enough and came back impressively hitting some of the best shots I've seen for a while. Federer lost most of the rallies, that's an indication that he was being outplayed.

habibko
08-15-2010, 03:11 PM
Obviously you didn't see the match at all. Djokovic was only outplayed in the first set and first two games of the second. From then on he constantly outplayed Federer. As someone said earlier, Novak choked in the third set when Federer was only putting the ball on play. Novak was the one hitting super clean shots as federer mentions. Should Roger have won much earlier? yes, but he didn't, because nowadays he gets tight and nervous and erratic and he's not the same self-assured man he was before. And then Novak had enough and came back impressively hitting some of the best shots I've seen for a while. Federer lost most of the rallies, that's an indication that he was being outplayed.

Q: do you know what this is called in English?



A: this is called choking.


this goes both ways, if you want to say Djokovic should have won this in 3, you can also say Federer should have won it in 2, and both have choked, but in the end Federer choked less when it really mattered, each player outplayed the other for parts of the match, it doesn't matter how long you outplay your opponents, a match is mostly decided on few important moments and who holds his nerves when it matters, and Federer done just that.

Certinfy
08-15-2010, 03:13 PM
Unbelievable how tight Berdych and Djokovic got in the latter stages of the match, doubt Murray will do the same though. :)

BigJohn
08-15-2010, 03:16 PM
Of course it has been said before, but man, not bad at all for a king that died in Australia 2 years ago...

Nole fan
08-15-2010, 03:18 PM
Q: do you know what this is called in English?



A: this is called choking.


this goes both ways, if you want to say Djokovic should have won this in 3, you can also say Federer should have won it in 2, and both have choked, but in the end Federer choked less when it really mattered, each player outplayed the other for parts of the match, it doesn't matter how long you outplay your opponents, a match is mostly decided on few important moments and who holds his nerves when it matters, and Federer done just that.

Hey, I agree. The match could have gone either way, that's all I'm saying.

scarecrows
08-15-2010, 03:20 PM
Obviously you didn't see the match at all. Djokovic was only outplayed in the first set and first two games of the second

wrong, 3 games of the 2nd set

Fed had chances to go 3-0 and double break up. Djokovic won the game and cheered like he was n. 1500 and finally won a game against the world no.1. At 3-0 Djokovic would have likely given up. Thankfully for him Fed's fist serve was not so solid the next game and the rest is history.
And this is why we say that Fed was the one that choked more

Guga_fan
08-15-2010, 03:50 PM
The 2nd and 3rd set had some great tennis. Despite their matchup not being so great, I really like to see these two playing each other.

cutesteve22
08-15-2010, 04:10 PM
pls win the final

Vida
08-15-2010, 05:05 PM
with djokovic, I dont think its choking, like choking choking. that happens more to berdych or gasquet, or zvonareva. djoko kind of trips in before they even step on the court. he had a thousand ufe's in 1st set, he couldnt hit a backand properly. he half-layed an egg and than fought it out in mid 2nd set when he started hitting the damn ball right. he had forehand winners in one game in 2nd set more than entire match before that point. and in the end, it was a toss up, couldve gone either way.

ORGASMATRON
08-15-2010, 05:13 PM
with djokovic, I dont think its choking, like choking choking. that happens more to berdych or gasquet, or zvonareva. djoko kind of trips in before they even step on the court. he had a thousand ufe's in 1st set, he couldnt hit a backand properly. he half-layed an egg and than fought it out in mid 2nd set when he started hitting the damn ball right. he had forehand winners in one game in 2nd set more than entire match before that point. and in the end, it was a toss up, couldve gone either way.

the match vs berdych was a toss up. this was not. federer is just better than djokvic, and even though hes still getting back to his best, djokovic was never going to stop him :bigwave:

cocrcici
08-15-2010, 05:17 PM
the match vs berdych was a toss up. this was not. federer is just better than djokvic, and even though hes still getting back to his best, djokovic was never going to stop him :bigwave:

NO:bigwave:

Guga_fan
08-15-2010, 05:30 PM
the match vs berdych was a toss up. this was not. federer is just better than djokvic, and even though hes still getting back to his best, djokovic was never going to stop him :bigwave:

It was a toss up at 5-5 in the 3rd, and Federer kept his nerve better.

ORGASMATRON
08-15-2010, 05:32 PM
:bigwave:

fran70
08-15-2010, 05:36 PM
Roger ups and downs during the match were the ones that turn the final result. It`s amazing to see him going up easily and losing everything he built on a twinkle of an eye. He had his chances to close the match on the 2nd set and give Djoko a humilliating defeat but although Roger played some brilliant tennis at times he showed some mental weaknesses at key times of the match.

This is weird because those mental weaknesses that he used to show in the past only(or mainly) with Nadal were extended on the past two years on matches against players like Murray, Davydenko, Djokovic, Hewitt, Berdych and Roddick just to mention some of them.

I know that time goes by for every player and probably he is at the edge of his career but you can see that former big champions were overpowered mainly on his game but with Roger is happening something different that it is that he is being overpowered on the mental side. Probably I`m wrong but that`s my perception.

habibko
08-15-2010, 05:38 PM
Federer is only gonna get worse, slower, weaker, less fit and less consistent from now on, the days where he used to routine Djokovic like he did in AO 2007, USO 2008, Cincy 2009 and USO 2009 and other top players aren't coming back.

great to see him winning them still though.

Iván
08-15-2010, 05:41 PM
Djokovic played brilliant tennis and still lost

fed wanted it too much.

i love the deep come ons from roger.

Nole fan
08-15-2010, 05:55 PM
Federer is only gonna get worse, slower, weaker, less fit and less consistent from now on, the days where he used to routine Djokovic like he did in AO 2007, USO 2008, Cincy 2009 and USO 2009 and other top players aren't coming back.

great to see him winning them still though.

I don't think he's ever been routined. :shrug:
But one thing is true: Federer's glory days ain't coming back.

fran70
08-15-2010, 06:29 PM
Djokovic played brilliant tennis and still lost

fed wanted it too much.

i love the deep come ons from roger.

I don`t think that Djokovic played so brlliant as you are mentioning. He made so many unforced mistakes, he played mainly to one shot winner, misleaded the tactic in the first and second sets attacking over Roger`s forehand (which changed for good in the third set where he pushed all the game over his backhand) but looked too nervous the whole match long. It was not Djoko`s day according to what I saw of him on his previous matches.

Guy Haines
08-15-2010, 07:06 PM
Federer is old.
:spit::worship:

Guy Haines
08-15-2010, 07:11 PM
Federer is playing much sharper, and on hard courts he can still change defense into offense better and more quickly than anyone else on tour.

These close wins are going to do wonders for his confidence/ego, which is a major part of his game. But he needs to start winning matches against scrubs more easily to be back to his old hard court form.

Novak isn't a scrub, but man does he ever play like a loser these days. I'm tempted to say he'll always be a bridesmaid in Tacchini.

He played some great points, and has a mechanical effectiveness that can bother or even beat Federer, but his mentality for some time now is ridiculous.

Guy Haines
08-15-2010, 07:18 PM
with djokovic, I dont think its choking, like choking choking. that happens more to berdych or gasquet, or zvonareva. djoko kind of trips in before they even step on the court. he had a thousand ufe's in 1st set, he couldnt hit a backand properly. he half-layed an egg and than fought it out in mid 2nd set when he started hitting the damn ball right. he had forehand winners in one game in 2nd set more than entire match before that point. and in the end, it was a toss up, couldve gone either way.

As you say, the problems with his mentality are flat-out visible.

He came out on court like he knew his job was to lose (which it was). In the first set he was worse than a player ranked out of the top 50.

Once he did begin to find his game, he still netted a tremendous lot of backhands and forehands, even amid flurries of good play akin to 07-08. Netted shots are a sure sign of nerves or overthinking.

That said, Federer draws those kind of errors from the rhythm-based Djokovic by altering pace and giving him different varieties of shot. We've seen it time and again on hard courts, espcially at the US Open, where Djokovic's game breaks down in crucial moments exactly the same way -- nervous weak-looking shots sent long or into the net.

He needs someone to keep him in line better than Vajda. Vajda sometimes looks at him with a 'Who knows?' face, which is lousy coaching.

Changes in equipment and sportswear did Djokovic no favors, his identity is just sort of scrambled, or committed to being second-or third-best.

MIMIC
08-15-2010, 07:59 PM
I'm still amazed that Djoker managed to win the 2nd set. This was one of the craziest matches that I have ever seen. This match was literally on crack.

Serenidad
08-15-2010, 08:27 PM
Djokovic letting cotton candy waltz on through. This is a new low. He should not be struggling with complete mugs. Where is Brands to restore order.

Nole fan
08-15-2010, 08:34 PM
As you say, the problems with his mentality are flat-out visible.

He came out on court like he knew his job was to lose (which it was). In the first set he was worse than a player ranked out of the top 50.

Once he did begin to find his game, he still netted a tremendous lot of backhands and forehands, even amid flurries of good play akin to 07-08. Netted shots are a sure sign of nerves or overthinking.

That said, Federer draws those kind of errors from the rhythm-based Djokovic by altering pace and giving him different varieties of shot. We've seen it time and again on hard courts, espcially at the US Open, where Djokovic's game breaks down in crucial moments exactly the same way -- nervous weak-looking shots sent long or into the net.

He needs someone to keep him in line better than Vajda. Vajda sometimes looks at him with a 'Who knows?' face, which is lousy coaching.

Changes in equipment and sportswear did Djokovic no favors, his identity is just sort of scrambled, or committed to being second-or third-best.

I agree Djokovic needs some exterior help from other than Vajda, but after Todd Martin's disaster he may be hesitant to hire another coach. The good thing for Djokovic is that he has room to improve. He's already a formidable player but he can get better and when he does he will be the champion he was set to be. I'm confident about that, but he needs a better environment. Djokovic always battles himself, he's his biggest enemy.
Said that I also think Federer needs extra help... he used to be collected and self-assured. Today he looks very vulnerable.

Ozone
08-15-2010, 08:34 PM
Roger getting to MS finals this early be4 a slam and taking care of his fam is :worship:

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
08-15-2010, 09:22 PM
rogi's a better player on every surface

jokes makes it intersting ONLY on hard courts

Rog isn't the player he once was but there's still 1-2 gold filled seasons left in him, thats for sure

Vida
08-15-2010, 09:25 PM
As you say, the problems with his mentality are flat-out visible.

He came out on court like he knew his job was to lose (which it was). In the first set he was worse than a player ranked out of the top 50.

Once he did begin to find his game, he still netted a tremendous lot of backhands and forehands, even amid flurries of good play akin to 07-08. Netted shots are a sure sign of nerves or overthinking.

That said, Federer draws those kind of errors from the rhythm-based Djokovic by altering pace and giving him different varieties of shot. We've seen it time and again on hard courts, espcially at the US Open, where Djokovic's game breaks down in crucial moments exactly the same way -- nervous weak-looking shots sent long or into the net.

He needs someone to keep him in line better than Vajda. Vajda sometimes looks at him with a 'Who knows?' face, which is lousy coaching.

Changes in equipment and sportswear did Djokovic no favors, his identity is just sort of scrambled, or committed to being second-or third-best.

exactly, djoko was nervous. he started bottling from the go, fed was 10-1 at one point.

I reckon its a bit of a shame, cause to me it looks he has the edge to impose himself on the ground and overpower ever slower federer, whos reliability ratio these days is more in favor of serve than it is the case with djokovic anyway.

now compared to wimbledon semi, maybe it is an improvement :shrug: :hope: :pray:...

and definitely another coach would be better solution for novak, another environment, source of knowledge. maybe a good fit would be some top flight coach professional, not a hack like todd martin. djoker surely looked like an intelligent bloke who could learn if properly addressed.

Ad Wim
08-15-2010, 09:26 PM
Wow, just saw Djoko was 1-6 0-2 0-30, pretty good comeback...