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Federer's goal to win 20 grand slam finals.. Can he do it ?

MacTheKnife
08-12-2010, 09:07 PM
LONDON -- Roger Federer wants to win at least 20 Grand Slam titles before he retires.

The 29-year-old Swiss player earned his 16th title with a victory at the Australian Open this year. But he failed to get beyond the quarterfinals at the French Open and Wimbledon. He's dropped to No. 3 in the rankings, his lowest position since November 2003.

However, Federer told the BBC that winning 20 majors is a realistic goal.

"I believe that having won three Grand Slams per season three times, and two per year a couple of times, it's something doable for me," he said. "I only play 16-20 tournaments per year, so I'm not overplaying, and that keeps the fire burning."



http://www.cbssports.com/tennis/story/13748863/federer-sets-his-sights-on-20-grand-slams/rss

Can he do it ??

BigJohn
08-12-2010, 09:13 PM
Whoa... He actually said it. Alright then, it will happen.

dodo
08-12-2010, 09:18 PM
I guess he needs something to shoot for and keep him going. It's not happening in this kind of form though.

Certainly has it in him, if anyone.

Pirata.
08-12-2010, 09:26 PM
He can, if he can be like Serena and just peak during Slams at the right times. If he regains his form, certainly has the ability to win at least Wimbledon and the USO once more before he eventually retires.

Roamed
08-12-2010, 09:42 PM
As a fan, the fact that he says he has this 'goal' scares and enthrals me at the same time. Will need to improve but he's sounding so motivated in every presser to keep plugging away, so who knows..

Certinfy
08-12-2010, 09:42 PM
Hopefully not.

Nalrodd
08-12-2010, 09:43 PM
Never was a big fan of Roger, but I wish he would achieve this.

And he can.

Serenidad
08-12-2010, 09:44 PM
With Brands around? Not likely.

ApproachShot
08-12-2010, 09:48 PM
Federer has achieved so much in his career that he can set his 'goals' on a whim. On the one hand he tells reporters that one of his goals is to qualify for the World Tour Finals in London. When quizzed about the Olympics he states that it is his goal to win there. Now we have this. Federer's accomplishments are in unchartered territory and so whenever he alludes to his goals I tend to interpret this as a statement of his desire rather than an assertion that it is his do-or-die target.

Then again he and his fitness trainer Pierre Paganini have apparently chalked out a '5 year plan' from 2010-2014 so you never know. What is good to see is that he still has the will to win and the motivation to work hard for it even though it is looking increasingly unlikely that he will reach 20 majors.

HKz
08-12-2010, 09:54 PM
It isn't entirely unrealistic to get 4 more majors. I mean regardless of a good draw and some luck, Federer is still Federer and should still be at the very least a slight favorite wherever he goes.

lazybear
08-12-2010, 09:58 PM
If he can win the US Open in a couple of weeks, then yes, he can do it, if not, i think the best case scenario is 18, or 19 for him. It's really a great oppurtunity right now, Murray, Djokovic, Davy, Roddick, all far from their very best, Del Potro won't play, so if he could find his form, he could take a huge step in that direction.

Arkulari
08-12-2010, 10:01 PM
if he plays 4 or 5 more years it's doable, specially if he wins the USO this year
now, it isn't a 100% thing but if anyone can do it, it's Roger ;)

DrJules
08-12-2010, 10:22 PM
Certainly feasible.

Will always be a contender at Wimbledon and the AO can always give chances owing to others not prepared early in the year. FO not likely to win again and US Open difficult as Saturday/Sunday semi-final/final more difficult as the body gets older.

Fitness of Federer and Nadal will also be a factor.

Expect Federer and Nadal to win 6 of the next 13 grand slams.

Best estimate is 2 more, but any number between 0 and 4 realistic.

Fed Fan
08-12-2010, 10:39 PM
The way Federer's game is at the moment, it would only be a slight surprise that he does not win another major. However, Federer seems to have the motivation to win more tournaments. By keeping himself fit and healthy and by tweaking a few aspects of his game (which he finally seems to be doing), he's probably going to win a few more grandslams. Besides, top sportsmen and women are always dangerous floaters long past their best. They have a wealth of experience at the top level and some days they are just feeling it and roll back the years (for a match or tournament anyway).

tyruk14
08-12-2010, 10:41 PM
I've said for a while that I think he'll equal Martina with 18. I don't think he'll get any more than that.

ORGASMATRON
08-12-2010, 10:55 PM
i dont know if he can, but he is smart. he is letting everyone know that he is not finished. if he ends up winning 18 slams then thatll be great as well. if he wins 20 it is more like a bonus than an actual goal.

Persimmon
08-12-2010, 11:13 PM
No.

17 or 18 slams at the most.

Manequin75
08-12-2010, 11:21 PM
No.

17 or 18 slams at the most.

are you serious? Fed is an all-surface stud. He has a shot at all the slams. He has a solid chance of winning the USO and defending AO. That takes him to 18. And then wimbledon and USO in 2011 could be a possibility. Hell even the French if Rafa is injured or gets upset earlier. I mean Fed can win the next four and get to 20 easy. He is that good. Dont know why 23 is the number i have for him in my head (Jordan and Lebron's number) :)

Go Fed...

Persimmon
08-12-2010, 11:22 PM
are you serious? Fed is an all-surface stud. He has a shot at all the slams. He has a solid chance of winning the USO and defending AO. That takes him to 18. And then wimbledon and USO in 2011 could be a possibility. Hell even the French if Rafa is injured or gets upset earlier. I mean Fed can win the next four and get to 20 easy. He is that good. Dont know why 23 is the number i ahve for him in my head (Jordan and Lebron's number) :)

Go Fed...

He's turning 30 next year as well.:wavey:

The last 3 slams he lost at were to other players than Rafa: Del Po(USO), Sod(FO) and Berdych(Wimbledon!). It's not just a Rafa issue at the slams anymore.:wavey: It's those pesky tall ballbashers now...

guy in sf
08-12-2010, 11:26 PM
I don't think 20 is doable for Federer because he has already peaked and it's going to get harder and harder. At the most he will win just one more major. He can get a few more IF he has fantastic draws in majors and top seeds who are capable to beating him fall early in upsets but other than that I don't see him getting to 20.

latso
08-12-2010, 11:30 PM
I'm a fan of the guy but this is NOT realistic

Even if he wins the USO this year

i hope he gets up to 18 but even this looks like a miracle atm

coonster14
08-13-2010, 12:58 AM
Not a fan, but I still think Federer can win 2 more slams, so 18 when he finally hangs up the racquet.

Manequin75
08-13-2010, 02:07 AM
Not a fan, but I still think Federer can win 2 more slams, so 18 when he finally hangs up the racquet.

this forum has written off fed thoroughly. Just like rafa was written off late last year and Fed sometime in 2008. Each time the forum was proven wrong in dramatic fashion with the written off guy winning back to back slams :)

Lesson to MTF posters. Here - repeat after me "I shall not write Fed or Rafa off ever again. Presently, Tennis begins with them and ends with them. Only they have the mental strength and other intangibles to mount comeback after comeback and continue their dominance. And I shall shun posters who try to mock at this pledge - AMEN"

straitup
08-13-2010, 02:09 AM
He certainly could...it will take more work and be a lot tougher than it seemed before, but it's not out of the realms of possibility for him

Mechlan
08-13-2010, 02:13 AM
Would be really surprised if he got more than 1 or 2 more. I've thought he would retire with 16 for the last few years, and that's still really likely.

Manequin75
08-13-2010, 02:18 AM
Would be really surprised if he got more than 1 or 2 more. I've thought he would retire with 16 for the last few years, and that's still really likely.

who's beating him at the US open? When has Roger lost to somebody twice in a slam since his dominant 2003-2004 era began besides Rafa? Nobody. Djko, Delpo, Berdych and Sod have used up their "Please God let me beat Fed for once in a Grand Slam" card up. And Rafa is not exactly a natural on the US open hardcourts....And fed has been in the last 6 US open finals. Can't imagine who can beat him really....

ANd no more "Pls god let me beat Fed for once in a grand slam" cards are currently in circulation this year :)

MIMIC
08-13-2010, 02:35 AM
who's beating him at the US open? When has Roger lost to somebody twice in a slam since his dominant 2003-2004 era began besides Rafa? Nobody. Djko, Delpo, Berdych and Sod have used up their "Please God let me beat Fed for once in a Grand Slam" card up. And Rafa is not exactly a natural on the US open hardcourts....And fed has been in the last 6 US open finals. Can't imagine who can beat him really....

ANd no more "Pls god let me beat Fed for once in a grand slam" cards are currently in circulation this year :)

You can't imagine anyone beating Federer at the U.S. Open? LOL. Did you imagine Berdych beating Federer at Wimbledon? Or del Potro beating Federer last year?

Did you imagine Federer going without a title for almost 8 months?

Roddickominator
08-13-2010, 02:39 AM
When players get married and have children, it's usually the beginning of the end. Federer can do it, only if he re-commits himself to the game and works harder than he ever has before.

Priam
08-13-2010, 02:40 AM
I think he'll end up with around 18/19. Delpo/sod/berdych will be around for the next 3 yrs, as will murray and djoko which might prevent 20. And that guy nadal will proabably still be there.

anutam
08-13-2010, 02:53 AM
sure he can :worship:

Mechlan
08-13-2010, 03:34 AM
who's beating him at the US open? When has Roger lost to somebody twice in a slam since his dominant 2003-2004 era began besides Rafa? Nobody. Djko, Delpo, Berdych and Sod have used up their "Please God let me beat Fed for once in a Grand Slam" card up. And Rafa is not exactly a natural on the US open hardcourts....And fed has been in the last 6 US open finals. Can't imagine who can beat him really....

ANd no more "Pls god let me beat Fed for once in a grand slam" cards are currently in circulation this year :)

Yeah, all those players just happened to get "lucky" and beat Federer once. Face it, Roger's getting older. If he plays well, he can still win, but there are many players out there who can beat him when they're playing well and he's playing average.

cutesteve22
08-13-2010, 07:23 AM
hope he could make it

sabina_RF_lee
08-13-2010, 09:09 AM
Why not??? 20slams for GOAT

Foxy
08-13-2010, 09:13 AM
He can win 30+ slams. Get real...

latso
08-13-2010, 09:47 AM
Yeah, all those players just happened to get "lucky" and beat Federer once. Face it, Roger's getting older. If he plays well, he can still win, but there are many players out there who can beat him when they're playing well and he's playing average.
It's a fact. Fed and the youngsters are going in different directions.
Him slightly sliding down and them improving.
Inevitably there will be (or already is) one point where the levels will match.

So, all the ballbashers in top 10 + some in form dark horses could take him down anywhere.

Rafa can beat him anywhere outside the USO and there you have Pony (next year), Nole, Muzza, Soder, Berdych (next year), Nalbandian (already) and perhaps a few others from next year on, like Baghdatis, Simon, Tsonga, Monfils, Gasquet...Dimitrov (ok, in 2 years for him :D )

The Anacon effect will last till his first loss at a GS, hopefuly in Australia

17 is a good number to retire with and i think Rafa can't reach that...and no one else would be even close in the next 20 years imo

Shirogane
08-13-2010, 09:57 AM
Best of luck, Rog – will be tough, but who knows.

PiggyGotRoasted
08-13-2010, 10:02 AM
He is my favourite for the USO, that is if he is hungry and he wants it enough..

Bilbo
08-13-2010, 10:04 AM
Don't think he will win another slam

r3d_d3v1l_
08-13-2010, 10:08 AM
Just remembered the post Australian Open 2010 final interview of Federer when he said that he didn´t want to have any goals anymore because he had achieved everything he wanted...

So it´s a sudden change of his strategy and i think that his motivation must be a lot higher than it was during the clay and grass season. The man is motivated so beware, he´s gonna do it.

ossie
08-13-2010, 10:08 AM
it would be nice if he could end up with 20 slams but i dont see him winning another 4 slams with rafa and delpotro around. however i dont think its impossible, in the end its federer hes a favorite for every slam he enters

tennis2tennis
08-13-2010, 10:44 AM
Love Rogers go get it attitude

tennis2tennis
08-13-2010, 10:53 AM
it would be nice if he could end up with 20 slams but i dont see him winning another 4 slams with rafa and delpotro around. however i dont think its impossible, in the end its federer hes a favorite for every slam he enters

seriously what has JMP done for people to put him the same breath as nadal when it comes to obsticles?

ossie
08-13-2010, 11:24 AM
seriously what has JMP done for people to put him the same breath as nadal when it comes to obsticles?apart from usopen2009 where he beat both fed and rafa (something no1 else has ever done) he hasnt done much but i think hes the only one whos got enough game to trouble rafa and fed from now on

MacTheKnife
08-13-2010, 11:29 AM
Still want to see how D-pot has recovered from the wrist injury/surgery. Not going so well for denko. Wrists are a tough heal, specially for a guy that plays like JMP..

Xristos
08-13-2010, 11:32 AM
He will get 20 then retire.

Dmitry Verdasco
08-13-2010, 11:47 AM
Guuuuurl you gonna fail so bad :rolls:

paseo
08-13-2010, 11:56 AM
seriously what has JMP done for people to put him the same breath as nadal when it comes to obsticles?

Del Potro is overrated.

As for Fed, doesn't matter if he gets it or not, what matter is that he still has motivation.

Vida
08-13-2010, 11:57 AM
what a liar, he shouldve said what he really thinks - he wants a thousand slams until he retires.

MariaV
08-13-2010, 12:06 PM
Of course he can. :shrug:

@Sweet Cleopatra
08-13-2010, 12:10 PM
Don't think so unless Nadal get injured which I certainly hope not.

keii
08-13-2010, 12:12 PM
I believe the only thing stands between roger and more grand slams is rafa. If Nadal's tendinitis struck again, or something else, then I believe roger can reach his goal.
If Roger is fully concentrated on his game, I don't think anyone can stand a chance against him, except nadal. But if rafa is there, roger doesn't have a chance :)

Persimmon
08-13-2010, 12:16 PM
who's beating him at the US open?

A tall ballbasher? He could win the USO as well. Or he could lose to another player like Delpo/Soderling/Berdych.

latso
08-13-2010, 12:51 PM
I believe the only thing stands between roger and more grand slams is rafa. If Nadal's tendinitis struck again, or something else, then I believe roger can reach his goal.
If Roger is fully concentrated on his game, I don't think anyone can stand a chance against him, except nadal. But if rafa is there, roger doesn't have a chance :)
In the last few GSs he's escaped from 2 sets HC against different players like Haas, Berdych and even Falla.

At one point those guys will start closing those won matches. Berdych started first and others will follow.

So it's far from a Rafa only situation. imo

keii
08-13-2010, 12:58 PM
yes, you're right; but that's why I said "if he's fully concentrated"
I don't think any other player is at the same level with roger and rafa, both mentally and physically.. Even though roger's career is coming to an end due to his age, I think he can maintain his form to win couple of more GS, if rafa allows..

bokehlicious
08-13-2010, 01:04 PM
Gotta love the Rafatards saying he won't manage it unless Rafa gets injured... Was Rafiangel injured in all 16 slams Fed won? :confused:

MariaV
08-13-2010, 01:13 PM
Gotta love the Rafatards saying he won't manage it unless Rafa gets injured... Was Rafiangel injured in all 16 slams Fed won? :confused:

I can only speak for myself but I'm not a Rafatard I guess. :awww: :shrug: :p

Of course he can. :shrug:

bokehlicious
08-13-2010, 01:16 PM
I can only speak for myself but I'm not a Rafatard I guess. :awww: :shrug: :p

See below :hug: :kiss:

Don't think so unless Nadal get injured which I certainly hope not.

I believe the only thing stands between roger and more grand slams is rafa. If Nadal's tendinitis struck again, or something else, then I believe roger can reach his goal.
If Roger is fully concentrated on his game, I don't think anyone can stand a chance against him, except nadal. But if rafa is there, roger doesn't have a chance :)

Everko
08-13-2010, 01:27 PM
Gotta love the Rafatards saying he won't manage it unless Rafa gets injured... Was Rafiangel injured in all 16 slams Fed won? :confused:

he was too young for the first ones. You expect a 16 year old to be winning slams then?

FedFan
08-13-2010, 01:29 PM
Nadal won his first slam in 2005. Since then Roger has won 12 slams, 4 more than the Spaniard.

Was Rafito alway injured when he lost? ;)

Roger will have chances to get more slams with or without Nadal.

keii
08-13-2010, 01:29 PM
Gotta love the Rafatards saying he won't manage it unless Rafa gets injured... Was Rafiangel injured in all 16 slams Fed won? :confused:

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying rafa is a better player than roger; in fact I think Roger is definitely one of the greatest ever. I'm saying one of the greatest because I didn't have chance to see becker, mc enroe, borg, etc. I've been watching tennis matches since sampras and agassi time. Since then, I believe the most talented tennis player is definitely federer. But when it comes to federer-nadal matches, nadal always seems to find a way to beat federer, if he's not injured. And I believe that if federer is in his mood, no one can stand a chance against him. but as I said, Nadal usually finds a way to beat him, especially he beats him mentally, which is I think his biggest strength..

Until the beginning of 2008, nadal was not that strong, he was 1-2 level below than roger; that's why "rafiangel" was not there while roger was winning 12 GS; but as you can admit he has improved his tennis incredibly. After 2008, federer was able to win only 1 grand slam with rafa not being injured. (usopen08; but again didn't play with rafa)

bokehlicious
08-13-2010, 01:36 PM
But when it comes to federer-nadal matches, nadal always seems to find a way to beat federer, if he's not injured.

So everytime Fed did beat Nadal Rafiangel was being injured?! Okaaaaayyyy :zzz: :zzz: I guess Nadal wouldn't have lost a single point on pro level if it wasn't for those damn unlucky injuries...

:retard:

lazybear
08-13-2010, 01:38 PM
he was too young for the first ones. You expect a 16 year old to be winning slams then?

If i remember correctly he was only 16 for a year or so.

keii
08-13-2010, 01:48 PM
So everytime Fed did beat Nadal Rafiangel was being injured?! Okaaaaayyyy :zzz: :zzz: I guess Nadal wouldn't have lost a single point on pro level if it wasn't for those damn unlucky injuries...

:retard:

After 2008, they played 7 matches and there is only 1 match that roger did beat nadal, which is madrid 2009.(the time nadal's tendinitis has started) Also, I wrote somewhere at my previous post that nadal "usually" finds a way to beat him; so of course federer may beat nadal in the future; but in Turkey there is an expression; "Exceptions don't break the rule".

Shirogane
08-13-2010, 02:51 PM
Until the beginning of 2008, nadal was not that strong, he was 1-2 level below than roger; that's why "rafiangel" was not there while roger was winning 12 GS; but as you can admit he has improved his tennis incredibly. After 2008, federer was able to win only 1 grand slam with rafa not being injured. (usopen08; but again didn't play with rafa)

But as you can admit Roger was already past his prime in 2008, so...

Filo V.
08-13-2010, 02:54 PM
He "only" has to win 4 more. So, he can do it. He still is the second best player in the world, and still is by far better than anyone other than Rafa when at his best moments. Del Potro would be there, but with his injury, we don't know how long it will be for him to fully recover. It depends on Fed's body, how much his retooling of his tactics help him and his motivation. But he certainly will always be one of the top threats to win all of the majors outside of the French.

Singularity
08-13-2010, 03:42 PM
After 2008, they played 7 matches and there is only 1 match that roger did beat nadal, which is madrid 2009.(the time nadal's tendinitis has started) Also, I wrote somewhere at my previous post that nadal "usually" finds a way to beat him; so of course federer may beat nadal in the future; but in Turkey there is an expression; "Exceptions don't break the rule".
After 2007 you mean. In any case, 5 of those matches were on clay, 1 was on hard, and 1 was on grass. On hard court their H2H is even (3-3) and on grass Roger has a slight advantage (2-1). Given that, I think Roger has a good chance to beat Rafa at any slam that isn't Roland Garros.

FormerRafaFan
08-13-2010, 04:16 PM
If he plays like he has the last few months: NO. If he improves his game and gets a coach, and starts to actually care about practising again: YES.

missvarsha
08-13-2010, 05:26 PM
Can ? yes.
Will ? hella no.

Pirata.
08-13-2010, 05:34 PM
After 2008, they played 7 matches and there is only 1 match that roger did beat nadal, which is madrid 2009.(the time nadal's tendinitis has started) Also, I wrote somewhere at my previous post that nadal "usually" finds a way to beat him; so of course federer may beat nadal in the future; but in Turkey there is an expression; "Exceptions don't break the rule".

Funny how Nadal can play a five hour, five set match on his worst surface and still beat Roger in a five set final with less than 24 hours rest, but can't recover from a 3-set match on his beloved clay to thrash Federer in a best of three final :o

finn98
08-13-2010, 08:35 PM
Funny how Nadal can play a five hour, five set match on his worst surface and still beat Roger in a five set final with less than 24 hours rest, but can't recover from a 3-set match on his beloved clay to thrash Federer in a best of three final :o

Its an exception u :retard: not a rule :wavey:

abraxas21
04-03-2011, 08:50 PM
4 more GS seems like a long shot to me.

LawrenceOfTennis
04-03-2011, 09:22 PM
would be great, but to be honest even the 17-18 looks unbeliviable

Zagor
04-03-2011, 09:44 PM
You never know with Fed but yeah 20 slams seems pretty unreachable at the moment.

Saxoner
04-03-2011, 11:05 PM
I see Fed winning two more slams. Wimbledon/US Open

Certinfy
04-03-2011, 11:07 PM
No.

nelson's eye
04-03-2011, 11:09 PM
I see Fed winning two more slams. Wimbledon/US Open

In a Swiss lunchtime!

Saxoner
04-03-2011, 11:11 PM
In a Swiss lunchtime!

Haha! I think it's possible, but it won't happen one after the other. Fed is so inconsistent these days.

I think the above is achievable if he plans to play for 2-3 more years.

guy in sf
04-03-2011, 11:24 PM
I've said for a while that I think he'll equal Martina with 18. I don't think he'll get any more than that.

Maybe he should also try to match Martina's 167 singles title record or maybe break it!

shiaben
04-03-2011, 11:49 PM
I'd like to see him reach it and finally retire. But I seriously doubt it.

His best bet is the following:

Have runs that include one out of the two players, Nadal and Djokovic, BUT not face both in a single run at a slam (This would make it a tad easier).

OR

If both of them are nearly impossible to defeat, he'll have to pray and cross fingers that one of them will become injured, the other become upset, or if both of them somehow become upset if they are both healthy in those respective tournaments.

While I don't see Djokovic ever breaking Federer's record, I definitely can see Nadal breaking his record given his young age (already 9 slams). He'll definitely want to reach the 20 mark to make it a rocky road for Nadal to climb this mountain of slams.

finishingmove
04-03-2011, 11:54 PM
couldn't even lose 20 at this point.

Rafa = Fed Killa
04-04-2011, 04:27 AM
If Nadal and Djokovic are feeling kind to the old weak man they might give him another masters title out of pity.

The GS are for RAFA & NOLE. No ballet dancers allowed any longer.

SPARTA

Swim4life227
04-04-2011, 07:29 AM
I think Fed was fortunate to win 2 out of the last 3. Nadal obtaining that injury during the 09 clay season pretty much took him out of contention until the following clay season. In that time Fed was finally able to win the FO (tie and then break Sampras' record). Same thing happened on the women's side recently, Serena has been out for 2 slams now and Kim has been able to double her slam count with relative ease. Otherwise she'd be still likely stuck at 2 slams. I can't blame Fed though for taking advantage of his #1 rival being out of form and taking back over #1. Come on though, if none of that happened he would have never got back #1 which he lost in 2008.

He could win a slam if Nadal/Djokovic are out of form one slam and he can go through the draw without having to face them. I have confidence he can routine a best of 5 tournament with ease as long as he doesn't have to face Nadal/Djoker. It'd be dumb to think it's impossible for him to win a slam but the days of him being the clear #1 and dominating players is a thing of the far far past.

Johnny Groove
04-04-2011, 07:40 AM
I'd be shocked if Federer retired with 16.

Old boy's gotta have at least 1 more Wimbledon or US Open left in him, no?

Raferminator
04-04-2011, 08:14 AM
If Nadal and Djokovic are feeling kind to the old weak man they might give him another masters title out of pity.

The GS are for RAFA & NOLE. No ballet dancers allowed any longer.

SPARTA

This.

Sonja1989
04-04-2011, 08:26 AM
At most he win Wimby in this year. But 20 GS is impossible.

cutesteve22
04-04-2011, 08:31 AM
sadly no... but I hope he could win at least 1 more Wimbledon