Toronto R2 The Swiss Maestro def J. I. Chela 7-6 (7) 6-3 [Archive] - MensTennisForums.com

Toronto R2 The Swiss Maestro def J. I. Chela 7-6 (7) 6-3

viruzzz
08-11-2010, 02:01 AM
There was moments of good tennis by Roger.
I hope he could rock Toronto...

Kworb
08-11-2010, 02:02 AM
Roger is just a shadow of his former self. Sad that the greatest tennis is forever in the past.

samanosuke
08-11-2010, 02:02 AM
Not bad from Roger . Chela played well

Certinfy
08-11-2010, 02:03 AM
He's done :wavey: He'll lose to the first decent HC player he plays. :)

dombrfc
08-11-2010, 02:04 AM
Not exactly great

bluefork
08-11-2010, 02:04 AM
Too many unforced errors, but it was good to see him be a little more aggressive on returns.

viruzzz
08-11-2010, 02:04 AM
Envy kills.
Haters please go home.

n8
08-11-2010, 02:05 AM
I think Federer got 8/8 first serves in in that tiebreaker (and most were very good too) and Chela still made it a very close breaker.

moon language
08-11-2010, 02:05 AM
Federer looks like a player ranked around 20 at the moment, with the odd flash of the old brilliance mixed in as a reminder of who he is.

He also looks like a Neapolitan popsicle in that outfit.

http://www.babygadget.net/pics/yhst-46866361034338_1937_1506031.jpg

Yappa
08-11-2010, 02:06 AM
I think Federer had more winners than UE, didn't he? Wasn't as bad as I had expected. Chela fought well.

thunder2006
08-11-2010, 02:06 AM
I watched the entire match and think Federer played well in patches but also lots of errors. You could see him trying some different tactics, like coming in off a return, slicing and approaching. A little early to tell how he will do for the rest of the summer based on this one match but I could easily see him doing well or simply losing before the finals.

habibko
08-11-2010, 02:06 AM
I like this aggressive Federer, thing is, I doubt he'll be playing like this when he is up against it with a tough opponent playing great ala Soderling or Berdych, he goes for his shots only when he is too confident these days, and reverts back to passive play when he is under pressure, so I'll wait to see how he plays a better opponent.

straitup
08-11-2010, 02:06 AM
Federer was great at times, ugly at other times. That 5-3 game in the first set was one of the worst performances I've seen from a player :help: . Took Roger 7 set points to close out the first set, and of course a tiebreaker after being up 5-2. Second set was a bit more predictable.

Good fight from Chela. That pink shirt is an interesting look...

ORGASMATRON
08-11-2010, 02:10 AM
bad first set, better in the second. still looks very vulnerable but he has to take every win to try and build confidence. its obviously still very low.

samanosuke
08-11-2010, 02:11 AM
I like this aggressive Federer, thing is, I doubt he'll be playing like this when he is up against it with a tough opponent playing great ala Soderling or Berdych, he goes for his shots only when he is too confident these days, and reverts back to passive play when he is under pressure, so I'll wait to see how he plays a better opponent.

can't agree more with you

Arkulari
08-11-2010, 02:12 AM
Chela was hanging tough in the first set and made Roger sweat, in the second set Roger came out being much more agressive, going to the net, attacking every serve

This is the first match he plays since Wimbledon, so I think he's still pretty much rusty but he could build a good result here if he sharpens parts of his game, I think he'll be playing much better in Cincy if he does

That 98 mph FH he hit in the second set was almost vintage stuff :)

lazybear
08-11-2010, 02:15 AM
Roger was horrible, and brilliant in the whole match, really Jekyll&Hyde all the way. His movement looked really good after what we saw in Wimbledon, his serving was also solid, and his return game was agressive as well, i've seen him playing, and moving a little worse in 2008, 2009, so i think it's really just a question of his mental lapses... If he can avoid those, he'll still have a good chance to win here, Cinci, and USO. If he can't he'll make a couple quarters, maybe semi, but probably won't win neither of them. He can get away with errors, if he can maintain his focus, but he can't get away with a game like that, when he was serving for the first set... Loved the mindset though, i hope Annacone can help him getting back to his best, or close to it.

fran70
08-11-2010, 02:17 AM
Roger did nothing extraordinary but was enough to win. Chela played well and inspite of the defeat it was a good match for him.

sabina_RF_lee
08-11-2010, 02:18 AM
Congrats Roger. Happy that he won,but in the first set I had bad feeling :scared: He made some weird errors, but in the end he played well. I dont want to predict all tournament or uso Roger results based on this match. He played well despite that he was too nervous, cause so pressure on him. Anyway Cangratulations and Good luck our great champion!

P.S. why to disscuss his outfit??? all of you must be girls who like to disscuss someone`s clothes? :eek:
Im a girl too, so I have to say his outfit was good as always, he looks good in any outfit

paseo
08-11-2010, 02:28 AM
You people here, always whining. I love it :D

But seriously, Fed's trying to be aggressive, especially on the return. Isn't that what his fans always whine about? Of course he's not gonna do it perfectly straight away, he just played since Wimbledon. Give him time, he'll do better, at least I hope so. Anyway, I for one, like this aggressive Fed. Finally, he pulverizes those puny 2nd serves.

Arkulari
08-11-2010, 02:30 AM
I agree with paseo, I was tired of watching him doing all that passive stuff, I'd rather see him going more for his shots

ORGASMATRON
08-11-2010, 02:45 AM
You people here, always whining. I love it :D

But seriously, Fed's trying to be aggressive, especially on the return. Isn't that what his fans always whine about? Of course he's not gonna do it perfectly straight away, he just played since Wimbledon. Give him time, he'll do better, at least I hope so. Anyway, I for one, like this aggressive Fed. Finally, he pulverizes those puny 2nd serves.

this doesnt mean much until he faces better opposition, especially the ballbashers. hes always had the guts to do this against lesser players.

Arkulari
08-11-2010, 02:49 AM
this doesnt mean much until he faces better opposition, especially the ballbashers. hes always had the guts to do this against lesser players.

yeah like he did against Montañes in Estoril this year or Cañas in IW/Miami three years ago :rolleyes:

Roger's been passive all year long, at least since the AO and it's good to see him going for his shots

Geo
08-11-2010, 02:52 AM
not convincing at all if he had this much trouble with Chela :retard: :tape: we'll have to see how he does as the level of competition goes up.

Filo V.
08-11-2010, 03:10 AM
Well, he was aggressive, and did play better as the match went on, so those are good signs. He showed his variety throughout the match with the drop shots and net approaches. The first set until the tiebreak was pretty dodgy, and the way he meekly gave up his break serving for the set was not good at all. All in all, I liked his gameplan, but the execution of it was not totally there. But this is his first match in a while, and there were some promising signs, so we'll see how things continue from here.

philosophicalarf
08-11-2010, 03:11 AM
The Swiss Maestro should only be used in reference to the great Chewbacanelli.

hilluis
08-11-2010, 03:13 AM
You people here, always whining. I love it :D

But seriously, Fed's trying to be aggressive, especially on the return. Isn't that what his fans always whine about? Of course he's not gonna do it perfectly straight away, he just played since Wimbledon. Give him time, he'll do better, at least I hope so. Anyway, I for one, like this aggressive Fed. Finally, he pulverizes those puny 2nd serves.



Agree. I like the aggressive Rog too... well may it continue. I thought he played well given it was his first match in over a month. He also looked more purposeful and "up for it'.

HKz
08-11-2010, 03:42 AM
Federer was great at times, ugly at other times. That 5-3 game in the first set was one of the worst performances I've seen from a player :help: . Took Roger 7 set points to close out the first set, and of course a tiebreaker after being up 5-2. Second set was a bit more predictable.

Good fight from Chela. That pink shirt is an interesting look...

Five

straitup
08-11-2010, 03:45 AM
Five

Well he had 6-3 in the tiebreaker, then 7-6 and 8-7 when he finally converted. So that's 5, but then he had two when Chela was serving at 4-5

christallh24
08-11-2010, 03:49 AM
He's done :wavey: He'll lose to the first decent HC player he plays.

You're not serious...right?

Not exactly great

He doesn't need to be. Especially not he first match since Wimbledon.

He made some weird errors

:confused: What weird errors?

He played well despite that he was too nervous, cause so pressure on him.

:lol: Roger?! Nervous?! Since when has Roger Federer been nervous? Especially facing a pidgeon in Chela. And what pressure are you talking about exactly?

P.S. why to disscuss his outfit??? all of you must be girls who like to disscuss someone`s clothes? :eek:
Im a girl too, so I have to say his outfit was good as always, he looks good in any outfit

If you were a Rafa fan, some Fed fan would be quick to jump all over you with :rolleyes:'s, 'tard this, 'tard that and accused of not being a tennis fan, because nobody could actually prefer Rafa's tennis. I'll not say that. But as a female, I will comment on the tennis fashion. I would love to forget majority of Rafa's outfits from late last season up until RG this year. Hideous stuff. I don't like pink on men, but Rogers' wasn't too offensive a shade.

habibko
08-11-2010, 03:52 AM
Roger Federer became the all-time match wins leader in ATP World Tour Masters 1000 action after defeating Argentine Juan Ignacio Chela 7-6(7), 6-3 on Tuesday night at the Rogers Cup in Toronto.

The World No. 3, who notched his first ATP World Tour Masters 1000 win in 2000 at Miami, improved to a 210-65 lifetime record at the ATP’s premier level of tournaments. American Andre Agassi, the previous record holder, compiled a 209-73 mark from 1990-2006.

ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Match Wins Leaders
1. Roger Federer 210-65
2. Andre Agassi 209-73
3. Pete Sampras 190-70
4. Rafael Nadal 180-35
5. Andy Roddick 141-57

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2010/08/32/Toronto-Tuesday-Federer-Record.aspx

deserves a mention.

Manequin75
08-11-2010, 03:54 AM
good enough match from fed. He really never needed to play at a higher gear. He plays better when he faces the elite players. The calmness in him has increased even further. Even in pressure situations in the first set he was cool like a cucumber. Good practice Fed !!! Fed should stroll into the finals. (he will whack berdych in the QF for sure)

Manequin75
08-11-2010, 04:01 AM
ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Match Wins Leaders
1. Roger Federer 210-65
2. Andre Agassi 209-73
3. Pete Sampras 190-70
4. Rafael Nadal 180-35
5. Andy Roddick 141-57


Rafa leads in the number of master titles. He has lost almost 50% fewer masters matches than Sampras, fed and Agassi individually. His conversion rate (master titles won/master tournamets played) must be pretty high on a relative basis.

Now Fed just needs to play decent tennis to get to the finals. SHouldnt be too difficult with his draw.

Ozone
08-11-2010, 04:24 AM
Love when Roger wins in non-majors:worship: Getting tuned up before the Open. Should lose soon, doesnt matter. I hope he destroys everyone though.

The Magician
08-11-2010, 04:54 AM
Good job trying to tweak your game Roger. All that matters is the win, and who would want Roger to peak this early in the US Open series anyway?

paseo
08-11-2010, 05:04 AM
this doesnt mean much until he faces better opposition, especially the ballbashers. hes always had the guts to do this against lesser players.

That's why he's trying it out in the earlier rounds against lower ranked opponents, so he can get away with it. He knows that he's gonna make mistakes. He would've won maybe 6-3 6-3 if he played his normal game plan, but he got so much more from this match playing like he did. Now, he can discuss it with his coach and fine tune this new game plan and maybe try it again next round. So when he needed it against the big boys, that little experience in the previous rounds will come in handy.

Or are you suggesting Fed should try this game plan the first time against Berdych in the QF?

christallh24
08-11-2010, 05:36 AM
deserves a mention.

Oh, how wonderful for him! Of course it deserves a mention. Goodness knows Roger Federer is lacking in that whole all-time records department.:sad:

habibko
08-11-2010, 05:59 AM
Oh, how wonderful for him! Of course it deserves a mention. Goodness knows Roger Federer is lacking in that whole all-time records department.:sad:

the more the merrier :cool:

Xristos
08-11-2010, 06:02 AM
A win is a win.

@Sweet Cleopatra
08-11-2010, 07:06 AM
Honestly Federer didn't play good. Waiting for the next match to build my whole conclusion.

Lopez
08-11-2010, 07:33 AM
What I've heard here is that Federer was more aggressive than usual. That's awesome.

In the last few years he has become more passive with his shots in my opinion. For example if you look at his match versus Hewitt at the US Open final he hit the covers off the ball many times. Now his shots are more loopy. I think it might have something to do with his bid to win the French Open and thus his "normal" game also got a bit more passive.

It doesn't matter if he loses here, most important is that he gets his aggressive mindset back (especially if he's becoming slower as time goes by). I really hope Annacone can help him see that.

Nolby
08-11-2010, 08:27 AM
It looks like Rogie's mind is not 100% on his matches right now. :p

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HattonWBA
08-11-2010, 08:29 AM
Have not watched the match yet will do so later on sky sports highlight programme, on paper looks like a solid routine federer first round scoreline so i expect him to go through the gears

alter ego
08-11-2010, 08:31 AM
Decent stuff from Roger. Only brainfart happened when he was up 5-2 in the first set and then lost 10 points in a row to Chela.:help:

But as some of you already said, he played much more aggresive tennis. He hit much more flat BH insted of his usual slices and when ever given a chance he would try to go for a winner, thus the big number of UEs.

Oh yeah, and the biggest change for me is that he's returns are better. HE's more willing to go around his BH for an inside-out FH and even his slice BH returns go more deep than they have been in the last months. I don't remember seeing those famous sloppy returns in the middle of the net.

sabina_RF_lee
08-11-2010, 09:34 AM
:lol: Roger?! Nervous?! Since when has Roger Federer been nervous? Especially facing a pidgeon in Chela. And what pressure are you talking about exactly?
he has a great talant to hide his emotions, but it doesnt mean that he wasnt nervous, I know his game very well. And I saw his nervous actions in this match. Pressure from his fans and himself. In his website he wrote that he knows how is it importand to us fans, and its also important to him. Also he said that he really worries about that he is #3, he wants to show good results, so believe me there was and is enough pressure on him :sad:

sabina_RF_lee
08-11-2010, 09:35 AM
deserves a mention.

of course deserves! thats cool, another record from Great Roger:worship:

habibko
08-11-2010, 10:00 AM
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Machiavelli
08-11-2010, 10:08 AM
Good fight from Chelito, but I don't see too many positive things Federer can take from this match as you guys, million miles away from the Fed everybody wants to see IMO

dabeast
08-11-2010, 10:30 AM
^^ that Federer doesn't exist anymore, what do you expect, for him to go Benjamin Button on us? just have to realise that at 29, Fed did good enough to win today. I'm just happy Rog is getting super aggressive on returns FINALLY.

sabina_RF_lee
08-11-2010, 10:54 AM
that Federer doesn't exist anymore


:sad:

RIboy
08-11-2010, 10:57 AM
federer sucks :D :D :D :D

MacTheKnife
08-11-2010, 11:05 AM
Chela played WAY over his head. Fed goes and gets annacone and comes out looking like james blake.. :lol: Let's see if he finds some balance to that act.

Helevorn
08-11-2010, 11:56 AM
He's done :wavey: He'll lose to the first decent HC player he plays. :)
no doubts. I don't think he'll reach the semifinals, he played some good tennis but these were only little moments of his past style. now he's really done

ORGASMATRON
08-11-2010, 02:50 PM
That's why he's trying it out in the earlier rounds against lower ranked opponents, so he can get away with it. He knows that he's gonna make mistakes. He would've won maybe 6-3 6-3 if he played his normal game plan, but he got so much more from this match playing like he did. Now, he can discuss it with his coach and fine tune this new game plan and maybe try it again next round. So when he needed it against the big boys, that little experience in the previous rounds will come in handy.

Or are you suggesting Fed should try this game plan the first time against Berdych in the QF?

no, i am suggesting hes done this very same thing time and time again and then at the very first sign of real pressure he disposes of it immediately and falls back into his comfort zone. this is called choking. its good to be positive though. like you i hope he is going to make some real changes with annacone.

r2473
08-11-2010, 04:32 PM
Looking forward to seeing the "2% changes" Annacone brings to Federer's game. I think we saw a small glimpse of it in this match. Hopefully it can all come together in time for the US Open.

I'll be a very interested spectator for Roger's matches this week. Love to hear what "Killer", "Little Mac", and "BG" have to say.

tealeaves
08-11-2010, 05:26 PM
At least he can win a match :inlove:

samanosuke
08-14-2010, 02:58 AM
He's done :wavey: He'll lose to the first decent HC player he plays. :)

:wavey: