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World Group 2010 play-offs: Italy at Sweden (September 17-19, 2010)

smucav
08-10-2010, 12:10 AM
http://www.daviscup.com/ties/tie.asp?tie=100014749
World Group Play-offs
Sparbanken Lidkoping Arena, Lidkopoing
Stadium Capacity: 2,500
17 September-19 September 2010
Day 1: 1500 hrs (1300 hrs GMT)
Day 2: 1400 hrs (1200 hrs GMT)
Day 3: 1300 hrs (1100 hrs GMT)
Surface: Hard (Plexipave)-Indoors
Ball Type: Head ATP Hard Court

Ticket information:
Friday and Sunday: 1st Category 240 kronor, 2nd Category 200 kronor, Youth 100 kronor
Saturday: 1st Category 200 kronor, 2nd Category 180 kronor, Youth 100 kronor
3 Day ticket: 600 kronor

Italy leads Sweden 11-8

Last meeting:
1998 World Group Final
Sweden defeated Italy 4-1 in Italy

smucav
09-07-2010, 05:09 PM
The ITF has announced the team nominations for the 2010 Davis Cup by BNP Paribas World Group Semifinals, World Group Play-offs and eight zonal ties to be played on 17-19 September.

SWEDEN v ITALY
Venue: Sparbanken Lidkoping Arena, Lidkoping, Sweden (hard–indoors)

Sweden
Robin Soderling
Andreas Vinciguerra
Simon Aspelin
Robert Lindstedt
Captain: Thomas Enqvist

Italy
Potito Staraci
Fabio Fognini
Simone Bolelli
Daniele Bracciali
Captain: Corrado Barazzutti

Helevorn
09-10-2010, 03:47 PM
sweden 5-0

Jomp1
09-14-2010, 12:39 AM
I dunno, Vinci always seems to play good but lose. Fognini to win one for Italy, 4-1 Sweden.

Champion number 1
09-14-2010, 11:44 AM
I am unsure if Fog will play. Normally Starace and Bolelli will play the singles this season and the doubles together too. Hopefully Poto can beat Vinci on day 1 (possible as Poto beat Haase in Holland) and that would tie up the game at least and make the doubles very important. I would settle for that.

Jomp1
09-14-2010, 08:23 PM
I am unsure if Fog will play. Normally Starace and Bolelli will play the singles this season and the doubles together too. Hopefully Poto can beat Vinci on day 1 (possible as Poto beat Haase in Holland) and that would tie up the game at least and make the doubles very important. I would settle for that.

Shouldn't Fognini winning over Starace in challenger final last week and taking Verdasco to five sets in USO help his case enough for a rubber? Or is it something else behind it?

Labamba
09-16-2010, 01:54 PM
Friday
Andreas Vinciguerra (SWE) v Potito Starace (ITA)
Robin Soderling (SWE) v Fabio Fognini (ITA)

Saturday
Simon Aspelin/Robert Lindstedt (SWE) v Simon Bolelli/Daniele Bracialli (ITA)

Sunday
Robin Soderling (SWE) v Potito Starace (ITA)
Andreas Vinciguerra (SWE) v Fabio Fognini (ITA)

Jomp1
09-16-2010, 05:37 PM
Glad we went with the doubles specialists!

Filo V.
09-16-2010, 07:37 PM
Sweden will likely win 3-2 or 4-1. If Simone/Daniele can pull of the upset, then I think Italy will win the tie. It's going to come down to the doubles IMO.

_Chaz
09-16-2010, 07:41 PM
If Vinci beats Starace in the 1st singles match, the tie is over and they don´t have to play the other 4 matches I see. And it isn´t impossible, Starace sucks on HC, he won just 4 matche this year, 2 out of them against clay courter Gil, then a "retired" win over Ginemo and a win over Haase in DC. And it´s also at Sweden so it will be very difficult for Italy. They have to win doubles and Fognini + Starace have to beat Vinci otherwise it´s over.

Filo V.
09-16-2010, 08:13 PM
I see no reason why the two Italian players will not beat Vinciguerra. Vinci is basically off and on with playing and hasn't been a top performer for years. Although none of the Italians are great on hard court, they are all (the 3 potential singles options) better than Vinci at this point and should win. So to me it comes down to the doubles, where Italy is the major underdog. It will be an upset but Italy can do it, hopefully they make it happen.

Horatio Caine
09-16-2010, 09:20 PM
I see no reason why the two Italian players will not beat Vinciguerra. Vinci is basically off and on with playing and hasn't been a top performer for years. Although none of the Italians are great on hard court, they are all (the 3 potential singles options) better than Vinci at this point and should win. So to me it comes down to the doubles, where Italy is the major underdog. It will be an upset but Italy can do it, hopefully they make it happen.

I agree with your reasoning on Vinciguerra, and while an upset isn't out of the question, I do think it is improbable.

Yes, the court is poison for the Italians, but you have to ask how much does it really favour Vinciguerra? He has barely played this year...doesn't have the match fitness and confidence an average touring pro has, and surely his physical fitness is a little suspect for a distance match?

Soderling surely won't lose either singles matches, so the Swedes would only need one more point. They have two decent doubles specialists for Saturday...certainly on paper they easily outclass the Italian pairing. The only concern is that Bolelli and Bracciali could be tough to break if they serve well, and if the tie is nicely poised at 1-1 after Friday, a few moments of Swedish panic (Aspelin...) / Italian inspiration could swing the tie a little in Italy's favour.

Dead Net Cord
09-16-2010, 10:06 PM
What was Vinciguerra doing since his performance in Bastad? I'm asking because he was not injured and has not played in any tournament.

Jomp1
09-16-2010, 10:43 PM
What was Vinciguerra doing since his performance in Bastad? I'm asking because he was not injured and has not played in any tournament.

From the Swedish TA's webpage:

-I've played 5-6 singles and as many doubles in the German- and Austrian league where the level of the opponents is good. The best Austrian players are playing there and a lot of good Germans, says Andreas Vinciguerra.

Dead Net Cord
09-16-2010, 10:50 PM
thanks for the information, really interesting

Labamba
09-17-2010, 10:29 PM
R1 - P.STARACE (ITA) def. A.VINCIGUERRA (SWE) 6-2 6-2 6-2

R2 - R.SODERLING (SWE) def. F.FOGNINI (ITA) 6-1 6-3 6-2

Sweden 1-1 Italy

doubles will be crucial

Filo V.
09-17-2010, 10:57 PM
It's all going to come down to tomorrow. Can the Italians get the job done and pull of the upset? Or will the Swedes protect their home court. I think Poto and Robin may end up playing, because obviously the coaches understand the importance of this point. Please may Italy win! Forza Italia!

Horatio Caine
09-18-2010, 08:43 AM
I'm not sure why Italy would change it's doubles team tbh. Bracciali seems to be focusing almost exclusively on the doubles tour now, and Bolelli has been competitive in this discipline (with Seppi). Fognini would be a bad choice, but I don't know if Starace could improve their chances in this rubber by playing. If I were the captain I wouldn't make any alterations.

I would also leave the nominated Swedish pairing as well.

Labamba
09-18-2010, 01:08 PM
Starace comes in for Bracciali...

Aspelin/Lindstedt vs Bolelli/Starace

Labamba
09-18-2010, 01:20 PM
Aspelin/Lindstedt vs Bolelli/Starace 3-0*

Fro_Lech
09-18-2010, 02:00 PM
Aspelin/Lindsted-Starace/Bolelli 3-0*, *5-3, 5-7

Asp/Lind - 5 DF , chookers...

Filo V.
09-18-2010, 02:00 PM
OMG, the Italians came back and won the first set!!! Si!!!!!! FORZA ITALIA!

Björki
09-18-2010, 02:08 PM
Aspelin/Lindstedt can't play together. :sad:

Filo V.
09-18-2010, 02:39 PM
Poto has been the best player on court today. He always comes through in Davis Cup :inlove:

Filo V.
09-18-2010, 02:41 PM
Italy has had chances the last three serve games of Sweden. They cannot allow this opportunity to slip. Get 'er done!!!!

Filo V.
09-18-2010, 03:33 PM
2-0 in sets, 4-3 lead in the 3rd, how can anything go wrong from here!!!!!

We are so close, let's make it happen!!

csm
09-18-2010, 03:34 PM
I can't believe the Swedes blew a couple of set points in the 2nd set, then were embarrassed in the tiebreaker. Not looking good for Sweden.

Filo V.
09-18-2010, 03:40 PM
Barely anyone in the crowd, and the ones making the most noise are Italians.

Björki
09-18-2010, 04:06 PM
Third set to the Swedes. 7-6
still not the faves to win the match.

Labamba
09-18-2010, 04:07 PM
Aspelin/Lindstedt vs Bolelli/Starace 5-7 6-7(0) 7-6(4) 1-0*

has the match (and the tie) turned around?

csm
09-18-2010, 04:16 PM
If they take the 4th set, it might just be enough momentum to win the 5th and the tie tomorrow.

Labamba
09-18-2010, 04:19 PM
Aspelin/Lindstedt vs Bolelli/Starace 5-7 6-7(0) 7-6(4) 4-1*

Filo V.
09-18-2010, 04:37 PM
The Italian pair better not ruin everything. This would be disaster if they lose from such a commanding position.

Labamba
09-18-2010, 04:47 PM
Aspelin/Lindstedt vs Bolelli/Starace 5-7 6-7(0) 7-6(4) 6-3 *1-2

csm
09-18-2010, 05:08 PM
3-3 in the 5th set!

Filo V.
09-18-2010, 05:27 PM
I think the Swedes are going to win this.

Simone is playing really poorly. Neither team are good returners. And for a doubles specialist team, the Swedes are decent but not great volleyers.

Filo V.
09-18-2010, 05:32 PM
Lindstedt really has raised the level of his game up a lot.

Sweden broke and is serving for the match at 6-5 in the third.

Filo V.
09-18-2010, 05:33 PM
Italy should have taken the third set. They had chance after chance. After that set went away, the better doubles team in Sweden has progressively shown itself.

_Chaz
09-18-2010, 05:40 PM
Congrats to Sweden, good luck in the World Group next year!
If Lindstedt / Aspelin can raise their level the Swedes can be very dangerous against many seeded teams, for example Spain (if the tie is played in Sweden, don´t know atm).

I heard the draw ceremony for World Group 2011 is on Wednesday, am I right?

Labamba
09-18-2010, 05:43 PM
Aspelin/Lindstedt def. Bolelli/Starace 5-7 6-7(0) 7-6(4) 6-3 7-5

4h 26min :clap2:

Sweden 2-1

Filo V.
09-18-2010, 05:44 PM
Disgusting result. Tie is over. Italy was a few points away from making the world group for the first time in years and blew it embarrassingly. Next.

csm
09-18-2010, 05:49 PM
And for a doubles specialist team, the Swedes are decent but not great volleyers.

You aren't kidding. I couldn't believe the high number of missed volleys, some of which didn't seem that difficult.

It was a dramatic match because of the comeback and tight final set, but it wasn't particularly well played. I'm a Sweden fan, so was glad they pulled it out, but feel bad for Italy who had a lot of chances and did a good job in the first 2 1/2 sets. Tough loss for them.

Filo V.
09-18-2010, 06:53 PM
Agree, csm. The match was dramatic, but it wasn't particularly entertaining, and the quality was not too good from either side. A lot of bad volleying, bad returning. The only real difference was the fact Italy had singles players and Sweden had doubles players. Not great doubles players, but doubles players nonetheless. Potito was the best player on the court for the first 3 sets but Lindstedt played better as the match went on. Sweden just put too much pressure on the Italians' weak serves. The result was predictable after the third set loss.

Oh well, Sweden are the bigger threat to do damage in the world group, so while I'm disappointed, I didn't expect a victory so, it is what it is.

Labamba
09-19-2010, 12:14 PM
Bolelli in for Starace...

Söderling vs Bolelli 1-0*

Labamba
09-19-2010, 12:28 PM
Söderling vs Bolelli 4-1*

Filo V.
09-19-2010, 01:23 PM
6-3 6-3 1-*0 Soderling.

Simone just isn't that good on this surface. Robin is serving really well, Simone is a terrible returner, and Robin's hitting pretty big off the ground, but nothing amazing. Robin is just so much better than Simone on this surface that it's not even really an interesting match to watch. The result is known.

Labamba
09-19-2010, 10:21 PM
R4 - R.SODERLING (SWE) def. S.BOLELLI (ITA) 6-3 6-3 6-3
R5 - F.FOGNINI (ITA) def. A.VINCIGUERRA (SWE) 6-1 6-3

Sweden 3-2 :) the Swedes really need a second singles player in the World Group, Vinci doesn't cut it (anymore) and their doubles experts (Aspelin in particular) aren't amazing imo...