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What if Nalbandian draws Fed or Nadal in R1 of the USO?

Ackms421
08-08-2010, 07:47 PM
Certainly his bandwagon is in full swing, but we all know that *sometimes* he is as good as many people think. He is certainly capable of beating anyone on any surface when he is playing well, as he is now. Unseeded and looming, he could draw anyone in the first round of hte USO. I think it would be incredible if it was Fed or Nadal.

*certainly I'd prefer Federer ;)

Johnny Groove
08-08-2010, 07:49 PM
Only if he is unseeded.

He might sneak into the 25-32 seed range with good results in Canada and Cincy.

Sapeod
08-08-2010, 07:50 PM
If he draws Nadal, then Nadal is in trouble, because he is not as comfortable on hardcourts.
If he draws Federer, then Federer is in touble, because he's not playing like he used to.
If he draws Djokovic, I'm not sure who will win. Djokovic isn't playing as well as he used to either.
If he draws Murray, Soderling or Berdych he loses.


Then again, that's only if he's unseeded, which I doubt he will be.

Ackms421
08-08-2010, 07:52 PM
Yeah but he was out of the top 100 before Washington. What would he need to do to get to #32? Is it more likely than not?

Also, I'd give him better chances against Berdych or Soderling than against Murray or Djokovic.

Certinfy
08-08-2010, 07:53 PM
I'll cry with joy.

ORGASMATRON
08-08-2010, 07:53 PM
would be very interesting of it happens. id love to see him draw nadal of course. he is capable of beating nadal in any round though.

ImmzB
08-08-2010, 07:53 PM
I'll cry with joy.

:lol:

ORGASMATRON
08-08-2010, 08:00 PM
the way nalbandian is though is that he will lose first round of the USO to some clown. or if not then he probably wouldnt make any significant run. the guy is just too inconsistent.

Beforehand
08-08-2010, 08:07 PM
They'll play.

Ivanatis
08-08-2010, 08:08 PM
They'll play.

This.

nobama
08-08-2010, 08:09 PM
what if Nalbandian doesn't win in Washington today. Will his bandwagon fall apart? :sad:

RogerExpress
08-08-2010, 08:09 PM
If Nalbandian wins today I think he'll need 5 or 6 wins between Toronto and Cincy to be seeded in US Open

alter ego
08-08-2010, 08:18 PM
Then he will lose.

Mateya
08-08-2010, 08:22 PM
It would be f**king awesome :drool: Especialy if he won.
The MTF would explode.

Probably he will draw some random mug and lose in third round at best. :rolleyes:

Fed=ATPTourkilla
08-08-2010, 08:32 PM
If the Nalbandwagon steamrolls its way into the SF at Toronto vs Nadal, with the sorts of crushing wins we've seen in Washington, Rafa is going to be sh*tting himself.

Javier Bardem
08-08-2010, 08:32 PM
i really hope he draws roddick

Drugs Ruin Lives
08-08-2010, 08:37 PM
Can't see him beating Nadal yet. Maybe next year.

Anyone can beat Federer.

DrJules
08-08-2010, 08:38 PM
The superior fitness of Federer or Nadal over 5 sets may prove decisive.

Puschkin
08-08-2010, 08:40 PM
hopefully a great match!:D

Mateya
08-08-2010, 08:51 PM
The superior fitness of Federer or Nadal over 5 sets may prove decisive.

Not if Nalby schools them with a 6-3 6-4 6-2 quicky. :worship:

Ibracadabra
08-08-2010, 09:34 PM
He will be seeded in my opinion. Regardless he would beat anyone atm on a hardcourt excpet del potro maybe.

TennisOnWood
08-08-2010, 09:39 PM
He should be in Top 32 for New York.. tomorrow he will be just 340 points behind 32th player with no points to defend

Roamed
08-08-2010, 09:42 PM
I think he'll be seeded. Might not get in the top 32 but if he gets 35ish withdrawals would get him there.

Filo V.
08-08-2010, 09:48 PM
People are overhyping him a little bit, if we take into account his tennis level at Washington. It was good, very good taking into account it's his first tour event in a long while, but let's not pretend he was setting the house on fire, in the final today, and especially v. Simon. The flashes were there, but it takes more than that to beat Fedal. Playing Roger and Rafa is a much different animal than any other match against any other player, and it's outdoors. So while he can win if he plays either early (and early is when he would want to play them, catch them rusty), I certainly wouldn't favor him.

Ackms421
08-08-2010, 10:03 PM
People are overhyping him a little bit, if we take into account his tennis level at Washington. It was good, very good taking into account it's his first tour event in a long while, but let's not pretend he was setting the house on fire, in the final today, and especially v. Simon. The flashes were there, but it takes more than that to beat Fedal. Playing Roger and Rafa is a much different animal than any other match against any other player, and it's outdoors. So while he can win if he plays either early (and early is when he would want to play them, catch them rusty), I certainly wouldn't favor him.

I wouldn't necessarily favor him, but I think it would be a 50/50 shot. In his four week prime at the end of 2007 he beat both of them twice (and won both tournaments). He is and has always been a bad match-up for both of them, and Nadal isn't normally sharpest at the beginning of tournaments. So, while Nadal is certainly playing better than Federer right now, it would be a frightening match-up for both of them I think.

Guga_fan
08-08-2010, 10:47 PM
People are overhyping him a little bit, if we take into account his tennis level at Washington. It was good, very good taking into account it's his first tour event in a long while, but let's not pretend he was setting the house on fire, in the final today, and especially v. Simon. The flashes were there, but it takes more than that to beat Fedal. Playing Roger and Rafa is a much different animal than any other match against any other player, and it's outdoors. So while he can win if he plays either early (and early is when he would want to play them, catch them rusty), I certainly wouldn't favor him.

With this form he is totally capable of beating Nadal, and would be a heavy favorite in my opinion. But against Federer it's tought to predict, even because Federer's level of play in the match would be a mystery.

Ackms421
08-08-2010, 10:56 PM
With this form he is totally capable of beating Nadal, and would be a heavy favorite in my opinion. But against Federer it's tought to predict, even because Federer's level of play in the match would be a mystery.

No, he wouldn't be a "heavy favorite" against Nadal. He lost the last two, both on hard courts. Sure, he may not have been at his best, but neither was Nadal. They both are playing great now. That being the case, I think the slight edge still goes to Nadal. But it would be a frightening match-up nonetheless.

cocrcici
08-08-2010, 11:01 PM
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tennishero
08-08-2010, 11:31 PM
If he draws Nadal, then Nadal is in trouble, because he is not as comfortable on hardcourts.
If he draws Federer, then Federer is in touble, because he's not playing like he used to.
If he draws Djokovic, I'm not sure who will win. Djokovic isn't playing as well as he used to either.
If he draws Murray, Soderling or Berdych he loses.


Then again, that's only if he's unseeded, which I doubt he will be.

:lol: really hope he draws murray to shut you up.

also, go fuck yourself with your bad rep.

Certinfy
08-08-2010, 11:40 PM
If a seed does draw Nalbandian R1 at the USO, you really have to feel for them. :o

Mechlan
08-09-2010, 12:29 AM
Nalbandian will probably lose.

Forehander
08-09-2010, 12:32 AM
lol that'd be so entertaining. If he can win he'll probably go on one of those crazy steam rolls to win the tournament

Jomp1
08-09-2010, 12:46 AM
Jesus christ what hyperbole. He beat Simon(injury-riddled), Cilic(has been crap for a while) and Baghdatis. All knows that he beats those players on a good day, even more when they are not in form. I'd wait to see his match with Ferrer which will be a good test for him.

Ibracadabra
08-09-2010, 01:00 AM
He will probably lose to ferrer after this hard week for him. He's trying to peak for davis cup regardless

The Magician
08-09-2010, 01:08 AM
Never seen a bandwagon this bad. At least in late 2007 he was playing great tennis, in Washington everyone was playing poorly including Nalby. Glad he won but no chance against Fedal in or outside a slam :o

Guga_fan
08-09-2010, 02:11 AM
No, he wouldn't be a "heavy favorite" against Nadal. He lost the last two, both on hard courts. Sure, he may not have been at his best, but neither was Nadal. They both are playing great now. That being the case, I think the slight edge still goes to Nadal. But it would be a frightening match-up nonetheless.

They were really close matches, in the 1st Nadal was in a form that many consider to have been his best on HC, and Nalbandian already had problems with the injury that made him stay away from the tour for almost a year, and he still had many match-points. And in the second one he was coming back from the said injury. You can't compare that level of play of Nalbandian with the one he showed this week (even thought this is not his best).

It's a match-up issue, and besides that, it was clear the last two times they played that Rafa gets nervous playing against Nalby.

Serenidad
08-09-2010, 04:17 AM
Nadal and Federer should be much more worried about Brands.

cutesteve22
08-09-2010, 07:29 AM
he would crushed Roger, but couldn't win over Nadal

latso
08-09-2010, 08:53 PM
Fed would fix the draw if he has to. No way they meet in first round

Rafa would beat Nalbi imo

So would do Murray and probably Djokovic too

But it depends in what shape he comes there at the first place. He might lose to Falla in first round in 4 sets, being the 29th seed f.e.

christallh24
08-09-2010, 09:05 PM
Rafa is going to be sh*tting himself.

Hardly. But if Nalby is in such great form, he wouldn't be only the concern of Rafa.

With this form he is totally capable of beating Nadal, and would be a heavy favorite in my opinion.

Hmmm, yes, David is a much better HC player...that hasn't won against Rafa since '07. Not to say he won't win any future meeting between them, but a "heavy favorite"? I think your opinion would probably be in the slight minority.

They were really close matches, in the 1st Nadal was in a form that many consider to have been his best on HC, and Nalbandian already had problems with the injury that made him stay away from the tour for almost a year, and he still had many match-points. And in the second one he was coming back from the said injury. You can't compare that level of play of Nalbandian with the one he showed this week (even thought this is not his best).

'07 was Rafa's best form on hc's? Really? And funny how every player and/or fans but Rafa, can mention injuries to highlight the complexion of a match/es.

If Rafa was nervous, it didn't stop him winning the last two meetings.

Nadal and Federer should be much more worried about Brands.

Oh, brother. :rolleyes: Why don't you create a Brands thread and respond to yourself to your hearts content.

jcempire
08-09-2010, 09:24 PM
Tough to say

but I like surprise and he is the guy who can make it happen

sabina_RF_lee
08-09-2010, 09:25 PM
If he is so good that can beat Nadal and even Federer why he hasn`t won a slam?

Certinfy
08-09-2010, 09:27 PM
If he is so good that can beat Nadal and even Federer why he hasn`t won a slam?If that's the case, why hasn't Soderling won a slam? Why hasn't Berdych won a slam? Why hasn't Murray won a slam? Why hasn't Davydenko won a slam? And why hasn't Tsonga won a slam?

sabina_RF_lee
08-09-2010, 09:34 PM
I mean if he can beat both

Certinfy
08-09-2010, 09:35 PM
All of those players can beat both as well... :shrug:

sabina_RF_lee
08-09-2010, 09:42 PM
not all in GS only Soder did and not in the same year

ApproachShot
08-09-2010, 09:43 PM
Nalbandian may be a dangerous floater in the draw but by no means expect a repeat of the Paris Masters 2007. Fedal are just supreme in slams at the moment and coming back from injury I am not convinced that Nalbandian could maintain the tempo until the very end in a best of 5 match against the two players who are almost singularly most effective at taking time away from their opponents in rallies.

Johnny_Bravo
08-09-2010, 09:47 PM
if he draws fed,he might have a chance

considering simon was real close beating him,so if murray or nadal get on his way,he should start packing.

Fed=ATPTourkilla
08-09-2010, 09:52 PM
Fedal are overrated. Nadal sucks on hard courts and Federer simply sucks.

Mats68
08-10-2010, 12:18 AM
He'll lose in three

latso
08-10-2010, 09:41 AM
Nalbandian may be a dangerous floater in the draw but by no means expect a repeat of the Paris Masters 2007. Fedal are just supreme in slams at the moment and coming back from injury I am not convinced that Nalbandian could maintain the tempo until the very end in a best of 5 match against the two players who are almost singularly most effective at taking time away from their opponents in rallies.
Federer disapointed in both the last couple of slams, so i wouldn't call him supreme atm.

But USO is his place and hardly he could be an underdog to anyone there.

Start da Game
08-10-2010, 05:23 PM
he can beat fed.......once again it has come down to nadal to have him in his draw, beat him and protect all federer, djokovic and murray from getting exposed to nalbandit.......

oranges
08-10-2010, 06:24 PM
No way that happens. Gasquet is predestined to draw such players in R1 and Gulbis in R2. Book it.

Jimnik
08-10-2010, 06:27 PM
Hope it happens.

Eden
08-10-2010, 06:39 PM
.......once again it has come down to nadal to have him in his draw, beat him and protect all federer, djokovic and murray from getting exposed to nalbandit.......

AO 2003
USO 2003
AO 2004
USO 2005
RG 2006

-> GS tournaments where Federer and Nalbandian meet so far

???

-> GS tournaments where Nadal and Nalbandian meet so far


And now you tell us again please why it's always up to Rafa to have Nalbandian in his draw :scratch:

tennis2tennis
08-10-2010, 07:07 PM
AO 2003
USO 2003
AO 2004
USO 2005
RG 2006

-> GS tournaments where Federer and Nalbandian meet so far

???

-> GS tournaments where Nadal and Nalbandian meet so far


And now you tell us again please why it's always up to Rafa to have Nalbandian in his draw :scratch:

great reply :worship::worship::worship::worship: some nadal fans don't let facts get in the way of a good whinge...


If he draws Nadal, then Nadal is in trouble, because he is not as comfortable on hardcourts.
If he draws Federer, then Federer is in touble, because he's not playing like he used to.
If he draws Djokovic, I'm not sure who will win. Djokovic isn't playing as well as he used to either.
If he draws Murray, Soderling or Berdych he loses.


Then again, that's only if he's unseeded, which I doubt he will be.

don't get it what did murray do that was better than federer in the hardcourts this season?

ApproachShot
08-10-2010, 09:00 PM
Federer disapointed in both the last couple of slams, so i wouldn't call him supreme atm.

But USO is his place and hardly he could be an underdog to anyone there.

You know, I thought twice about typing the phrase as I was writing my above response. But then I thought which other player on tour other than would trade their last 4 grand slam results with Federer's F, W, QF, QF and I concluded that other than Nadal, nobody would. And given that his record at the US Open in terms of the percentage of matches won is better than at any other slam, I agree with your point that he is unlikely to be an underdog to anyone (other than perhaps Nadal, although the deco turf is probably his weakest surface). That said, Federer is clearly past his best and over time the trajectory of his performances will be downward.

I guess what it interesting is that Nalbandian beat Federer both in the finals of the US Open juniors tournament in 1998 and again at the QF of the US Open in 2003 just after Federer won his first Wimbledon. Clearly Nalbandian at his best can cause problems for Federer but I for one am slightly wary of jumping on the Nalbandwagon of 2010.

Manequin75
08-10-2010, 10:21 PM
nalbandian has been returning serves amazing lately. He kills the second serve basically. He is a threat for sure for ALL the top players. Im sure nobody wants to plays him in the earlier rounds. The guy isnt even that tall and appears kinda out of shape and is still incredible. Unbelievable this guy.

r2473
08-10-2010, 10:24 PM
What if Nalbandian draws Fed or Nadal in R1 of the USO?

If he draws them, it could look something like this:

http://idata.over-blog.com/0/14/22/58/2008/Wimbledon-2008-copie-1.jpg

OldSilentHill
08-11-2010, 04:24 PM
If he draws them, it could look something like this:

http://idata.over-blog.com/0/14/22/58/2008/Wimbledon-2008-copie-1.jpg
:lol::lol::lol:



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