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Wimbledon final: WWW between Nadal and Berdych?

Il Primo Uomo
07-02-2010, 05:25 PM
So?

Bilbo
07-02-2010, 05:27 PM
Nadal will bulldoze Berdych on Sunday

To piss all the Berdych lovers off I'm going to say

R. Nadal in 3

Fedicilous
07-02-2010, 05:27 PM
Thread of all time. lol

Berdych 6-1 6-0 6-2

Certinfy
07-02-2010, 05:27 PM
Berdych In 5.

jenanun
07-02-2010, 05:28 PM
Nadal in 3 or 4

Il Primo Uomo
07-02-2010, 05:28 PM
Dang, I need a poll :mad:

And Berdych to win, I can feel it deep inside my soul

The Freak
07-02-2010, 05:29 PM
Nadal in 3.

zeluvaa
07-02-2010, 05:29 PM
Head says nadal in 3
Heart says berdman in 4-5

but gotta go with the head here.

federernadalfan
07-02-2010, 05:29 PM
rafa in straights
8th grand slam
2nd Wimbledon crown on the way

henke007
07-02-2010, 05:29 PM
Rafa in str8s

Sunset of Age
07-02-2010, 05:30 PM
85% Rafa, 15% Tomas.

But didn't folks give JMDP 'no chance' either at the USO last year? ;)

Leo
07-02-2010, 05:30 PM
Nadal in 3. Maybe one set to Berdych in tiebreak but I doubt it.

Shirogane
07-02-2010, 05:30 PM
Berdych in 4 sets.

Leo
07-02-2010, 05:31 PM
85% Rafa, 15% Tomas.

But didn't folks give JMDP 'no chance' either at the USO last year? ;)

I personally thought Delpo would win that one and wasn't sure why Federer was supposed to be the overwhelming favorite. I personally think Berdych has little chance on Sunday.

Jomp1
07-02-2010, 05:31 PM
I really hope Tomas but Rafa has this in his bag.

Pfloyd
07-02-2010, 05:31 PM
Nadal in 3.

tyruk14
07-02-2010, 05:32 PM
If Nadal comes out on Sunday playing as well as he did today -- especially on the big points -- I can't see the Berdman having any answers to him.

Nadal in three.

Armless
07-02-2010, 05:32 PM
I would want Berdych to win, although Nadal's today game proved that he might do the same to Berdych,if he crumbles soon. Hopes for a great match, in 4 or 5.

vn01
07-02-2010, 05:34 PM
Rafa in 3

allpro
07-02-2010, 05:36 PM
nadal in straights.

HarryMan
07-02-2010, 05:40 PM
Berdych beat a pusher Federer who allowed him lots of time to set up his trademark forehand by slicing his backhand although those slices were pathetic. Djokovic's forehand was bad today.

Nadal is a totally different animal. He will expose Berdych's backhand on Sunday and not give him any easy balls on his forehand side. The winner is Nadal, you can bank on that.

Sillyrabbit
07-02-2010, 05:41 PM
A year ago, I'd have been a 100& sure it'd be Nadal as for some reason Berdych just unravelled when he was up against him, but Berdych 2.0 seems to have his head screwed on right, so we'll see.

tennishero
07-02-2010, 05:42 PM
berdych wins in 5 sets.

M4RC
07-02-2010, 05:46 PM
B-Shit has around -12% to win... one set. And I like him more than Djoker or Muzza, but right now there is no man on Earth capable of defeating Nadal on a tennis court.

"2nd green star to be in that thing I use for the racquets, no? I mean, no?"

Priam
07-02-2010, 05:48 PM
This has been Nadal's toughest draw ever on the way to a Final (w/o Fed even).

Nadal in 4.

kooties
07-02-2010, 05:48 PM
Head says Nadal, heart says Tomas

meh Nadal in the Wimbly final...

Sunset of Age
07-02-2010, 05:48 PM
B-Shit has around -12% to win... one set. And I like him more than Djoker or Muzza, but right now there is no man on Earth capable of defeating Nadal on a tennis court.

B-Shit. Classy. :rolleyes:

rubbERR
07-02-2010, 05:48 PM
what can wanderer like birdshit do? real deal nadalll vs top 20 fluke machine

Persimmon
07-02-2010, 05:49 PM
Berdych to win his first Slam in the Temple of Tennis.

The_Beast
07-02-2010, 05:49 PM
Nadal in 4

Voo de Mar
07-02-2010, 05:49 PM
I'm afraid Nadal in 3 easy sets :o

paseo
07-02-2010, 05:51 PM
Berdych has no chance whatsoever. Nadal in 3.

ys
07-02-2010, 05:53 PM
With Nadal being overwhelming favourite, we do have to remember, that the match is really on his opponent's racket, as Berdych does have far superior firepower. If he has a very good day, there is not much Rafa will be able to do.

Filo V.
07-02-2010, 05:55 PM
Nadal will win, and probably will win comfortably in straights.

rubbERR
07-02-2010, 05:55 PM
we do have to remember that their recent matches nadal has made berdych look like fool

Priam
07-02-2010, 05:57 PM
lol rubbERR you seem to be spewing out a lot of hate for Berdy lately. Give the guy a break, after years of mental midgetry he made it to his first slam final.

Filo V.
07-02-2010, 05:57 PM
With Nadal being overwhelming favourite, we do have to remember, that the match is really on his opponent's racket, as Berdych does have far superior firepower. If he has a very good day, there is not much Rafa will be able to do.

Yes, but as we've seen with Berdych the last several times they have played, Soderling, Tsonga, Blake etc., it takes more than firepower to beat Rafa. He can match the firepower with his new more aggressive play. It takes consistency, variety, defense, the total package. Tomas is better than all of the other heavy hitters in that he constructs points better and hits the ball cleaner, but he will need to be on his A+ game throughout.

born_on_clay
07-02-2010, 05:58 PM
Berdych In 5.

not in 3 :confused:
:lol:

Priam
07-02-2010, 05:58 PM
If that guy who just played Djoker shows up, he probably will lose.

Rafaspin
07-02-2010, 06:01 PM
Berdych will need to de-pigeon himself if he is to win. Nadal leads 7-3. Berdych hasn't taken a set off, let alone beat, Nadal since 2006.

Sunset of Age
07-02-2010, 06:04 PM
I personally thought Delpo would win that one and wasn't sure why Federer was supposed to be the overwhelming favorite. I personally think Berdych has little chance on Sunday.

Oh, I fully agree, hence my '15% Tomas chance'-post.
Still I am already very happy that he's managed to make his 1st ever GS final, and I bet that he is, too. :D

dmit424
07-02-2010, 06:05 PM
Nadal in 3, 4, or 5.

If not, then Berdych.

Elena.
07-02-2010, 06:06 PM
I hope Berdych wins this final .

A_Skywalker
07-02-2010, 06:09 PM
I have a feeling they will break the record for long match of Isner - Mahut :p

debby
07-02-2010, 06:11 PM
I hope Berdych will win this, if he wins this, it will be a deserved win.

#3, #2 and #1 in a row, not so bad. It would be amazing.

Heart says Berdych in 5 sets.
Head says Nadal in 3 sets.

andylovesaustin
07-02-2010, 06:11 PM
Well, I'm sure he is happy to make it to the final, but I hope Birdie plays to win the whole thing because that's sure as heck what Rafa is going to do!

My mind says...Rafa...in 3.

My heart wants Birdie... in however long it takes for him to win the thing!

But.. gotta go with Rafa as world's #1 and current multi French Open champion and former Wimby Champ.

If Birdie is destined to lose, I hope he'll take Rafa to 5.

siddy
07-02-2010, 06:12 PM
Rafa in 3, maybe one close set.

Polikarpov
07-02-2010, 06:13 PM
There's already a thread about this.

Certinfy
07-02-2010, 06:13 PM
If Berdych serves and hits his FH well and not let the nerves take the better of him I think he has a realistic chance. Good thing is Nadal isn't returning serve as well as he used to :)

NadalSharapova
07-02-2010, 06:15 PM
If Berdych serves and hits his FH well and not let the nerves take the better of him I think he has a realistic chance. Good thing is Nadal isn't returning serve as well as he used to :)

don't think your opinion matters after what u said about the nadal v murray match. clearly your view is clouded.

@Sweet Cleopatra
07-02-2010, 06:17 PM
Scared, Berdych is very strong and motivated and will play without any pressure, I hope Rafa but he has to concentrate and play the best of best each point.

Certinfy
07-02-2010, 06:17 PM
...and I'm the only one who predicts wrong results for matches? :rolleyes:

Bilbo
07-02-2010, 06:19 PM
berdych fans already shitting their pants

debby
07-02-2010, 06:19 PM
...and I'm the only one who predicts wrong results for matches? :rolleyes:

Change your sig :wavey:

M4RC
07-02-2010, 06:23 PM
Berdych to win his first Slam in the Temple of Tennis.

I really pray for you not being a betting man :o

philosophicalarf
07-02-2010, 06:31 PM
Worry for Nadal is his return - he wasn't getting much at all against the Petz, Haase or Murray first deliveries.

As always with playing Nadal, Berdy must start sharp, and critically win the first set - if you don't, it's basically mission impossible. If he's going to win, it'll be a blowout 3-0, maybe a 3-1 at a stretch. Dogfight = Nadal win.

rubbERR
07-02-2010, 06:33 PM
Worry for Nadal is his return - he wasn't getting much at all against the Petz, Haase or Murray first deliveries.

As always with playing Nadal, Berdy must start sharp, and critically win the first set - if you don't, it's basically mission impossible. If he's going to win, it'll be a blowout 3-0, maybe a 3-1 at a stretch. Dogfight = Nadal win.

all those guys have better serves than berdych who most of the time serves middle of the box 130mph and never lines

abraxas21
07-02-2010, 06:33 PM
Rafa.

Edith09
07-02-2010, 06:34 PM
I´m Czech so I let my heart chose, Berdych in 4 sets.

River
07-02-2010, 06:35 PM
If Andy Roddick can push Roger Federer to 5 sets in Wimbledon, then certainly Tomas Berdych can push Rafael Nadal enough to win the title. Berdych has beaten the best grass courter here already, so I can definitely see Tomas beating Nadal.

alter ego
07-02-2010, 06:35 PM
Birdshit has no chance.

BTW : Wimbledonn temple of tennis ? :spit:

joshabner5
07-02-2010, 06:38 PM
Berdych may be able to scratch out a set. Nadal in 3 or 4.

Il Primo Uomo
07-02-2010, 06:41 PM
If Andy Roddick can push Roger Federer to 5 sets in Wimbledon, then certainly Tomas Berdych can push Rafael Nadal enough to win the title. Berdych has beaten the best grass courter here already, so I can definitely see Tomas beating Nadal.

This comparison is pointless dude :lol:
Beside, this is my thread and I don't want joke of tennis players being written in here, so miss me with this Roddick BS.

Ivo#1Fan
07-02-2010, 06:42 PM
I haven't read all the posts so someone else may have already mentioned this...After losing to Berdych 3 times in a row, Nadal has now kicked Berdych's ass 6 straight times, all in straight sets, including a win at Wimbledon. It looks like Berdych is his bitch. I feel pretty safe in predicting Nadal again.

philosophicalarf
07-02-2010, 06:46 PM
all those guys have better serves than berdych who most of the time serves middle of the box 130mph and never lines

He used to, but check out hawkeye distribution in his matches - he's improved the serve placement a ton lately, and without taking any pace off, or dropping his first serve numbers. It's a real beast of a weapon now, whereas before it was just a scattergun (say like Troicki has). Aside from the mental improvements, it's probably the main reason he's gone from Mr Nowhere, to miami final, Roland Garros semis, Wimbledon final.

Of course, if he chokes like he did against Djoko the end of the 2nd set, he's got no chance at all. Ditto if he has more of those service games where he switches to 10% first serve.

TheBoiledEgg
07-02-2010, 06:49 PM
Tomas will rip Rafa a new one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bilbo
07-02-2010, 06:50 PM
Tomas will rip Rafa a new one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you wish

Dyraise
07-02-2010, 06:51 PM
Rafa in three. Really easy.

abraxas21
07-02-2010, 07:08 PM
This Wimby is going to the same way as RG. A ball basher takes out Federer in the QF and then goes on to lose to Nadal in the final.

NyGeL
07-02-2010, 07:14 PM
Nadal in 3.

MIMIC
07-02-2010, 07:15 PM
Berdych will come out firing (with nothing to lose) on a total confidence high. Nadal will gather himself and will crush Berdych's spirit with his determination and tremendous fighting abilities. I don't think it'll be a blow out but Berdych will quickly realize that he has no chance.

Nadal in 4

6-4, 6-2, 4-6, 6-3

allpro
07-02-2010, 07:17 PM
98% Rafa, 2% Tomas.

fixed ;)

The Magician
07-02-2010, 07:23 PM
Rafa will win another Wimbledon and he'll go back to being the GOAT on MTF until he loses in straights at the USO :rolleyes: It's pathetic that the exclusive baseline play coupled with the wearing down of the grass has actually made Wimbledon into a clay tournament :o

Tom_Bombadil
07-02-2010, 07:25 PM
Birdshit has no chance.

BTW : Wimbledonn temple of tennis ? :spit:

You're right: RG is the temple of tennis.... :rolleyes:

Sunset of Age
07-02-2010, 07:29 PM
fixed ;)

No need to fix it. The outcome will be the same whatsoever. ;)

oranges
07-02-2010, 07:29 PM
Tomas will do it for Bilbo

A_Skywalker
07-02-2010, 07:31 PM
Rafa will win another Wimbledon and he'll go back to being the GOAT on MTF until he loses in straights at the USO :rolleyes: It's pathetic that the exclusive baseline play coupled with the wearing down of the grass has actually made Wimbledon into a clay tournament :o

So Nadal wins only on clay, you are right, true magician.

The Magician
07-02-2010, 07:43 PM
So Nadal wins only on clay, you are right, true magician.

Or extremely slow hardcourt specifically made for him, like the constantly changing AO surface to make it easier and easier for Nadull. Nadull was born in the right era, when the ATP is run by a mafia who can be bribed, the ITF thinks Nadull-Federror mugathons are the ideal final, and the umpires/players are too big of pansies to call NAdull out on his gamesmanship. Welcome to reality :angel:

dusan1610
07-02-2010, 07:45 PM
Rafa easily in 3

dav abu
07-02-2010, 07:52 PM
Or extremely slow hardcourt specifically made for him, like the constantly changing AO surface to make it easier and easier for Nadull. Nadull was born in the right era, when the ATP is run by a mafia who can be bribed, the ITF thinks Nadull-Federror mugathons are the ideal final, and the umpires/players are too big of pansies to call NAdull out on his gamesmanship. Welcome to reality :angel:

you have to a WUM :eek:

ImmzB
07-02-2010, 07:56 PM
Nadal in 3

Geo
07-02-2010, 08:00 PM
probably Nadal in 4 sets :shrug: :zzz: :yawn: If Berdych plays as well as he has been he could win though. I'm just expecting him to get tight at some point :o at least he'll be more aggressive than Murray :tape:

NADALbULLS
07-02-2010, 08:03 PM
NADAL is going to be massively fired up vs Berdych, he can really smell the blood now, you know he's going to leave nothing to chance and murder Berdych in all kinds of ways!

I saw how nervous Berdych got in tie-breaker with Djokovic, they both looked scared sh*tless. I'm predicting straight sets win for Nadal, Berdych will be completely lost mentally in his first GS final.

Xristos
07-02-2010, 08:09 PM
Rafa Nadal in 3.

osmonde
07-02-2010, 08:25 PM
RG: Soderling beats Federer in Q, Berdych lost to Soderling in semi then Soderling lost to Nadal in final

WIM: Berdych beats Federer in Q, Soderling lost to Nadal in Q...so Nadal will beat Berdych in final.

NO?

Arkulari
07-02-2010, 08:28 PM
Rafa in 3 or 4 if Berdych gets lucky on a TB ;)

Sunset of Age
07-02-2010, 08:30 PM
NADAL is going to be massively fired up vs Berdych, he can really smell the blood now, you know he's going to leave nothing to chance and murder Berdych in all kinds of ways!

Why is it that some Nadal fans - or should I say 'trolls'? - always speak in terms of 'blood', 'murder', 'war' etc. when it comes to any match of his?

I find it pretty off-putting.
It's only tennis, a GAME, fergodsakes. I really don't need those dreadful, nasty warfare images imposed on a sports event, thankyouverymuch indeed. :o

Please stop it.

brent-o
07-02-2010, 08:37 PM
I suspect that Nadal will win, but still it's hard to ever count Berdych out with those effortlessly hard strokes.

Matt01
07-02-2010, 08:37 PM
LOL @ the "smelling blood"-thing...


Or extremely slow hardcourt specifically made for him, like the constantly changing AO surface to make it easier and easier for Nadull. Nadull was born in the right era, when the ATP is run by a mafia who can be bribed, the ITF thinks Nadull-Federror mugathons are the ideal final, and the umpires/players are too big of pansies to call NAdull out on his gamesmanship. Welcome to reality :angel:


LOL..."constantly changing AO surface", "ATP is run by a mafia"...you really know the reality :lol:

oz_boz
07-02-2010, 08:37 PM
It's not 2006 anymore.

Tomas can definitely take a set against Rafa on grass or even beat him, but not in Wimbledon. Hopefully Berdych can keep the score per set close, like Murray today, but Nadal will get the better of him in crunch time and probably not lose a set.

Fed Fan
07-02-2010, 08:38 PM
Nadal in three, maybe four sets. The Spaniard's form has improved and he has shown he call deal with big hitters on grass.

Commander Data
07-02-2010, 08:47 PM
Berdych would need to play the game of his life to have a chance, even better then against Federer. It is his first final, he will be a bit nervous. So, no way. Might take a set at best.

Nadal is absolut brutal, insane determination. He will win 99.9%!

I bet all my vcash on Nadal.

tealeaves
07-02-2010, 08:49 PM
Tennis needs to win - so Berdych would win

ossie
07-02-2010, 08:50 PM
Berdych to win his first Slam in the Temple of Tennis.
you just dont know when to stop do you :haha:

anyways mtf is seriously underestimating berdych here if rafa doesnt play his best tennis he can easily lose this match, im still gonna hope for the best and say rafa in 4 or 5 sets

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 08:52 PM
Berdych to win his first Slam in the Temple of Tennis.

howdy Rafa hater :wavey:

had fun watching sod lose to rafito ? :wavey:

had even more un watching Raftito take Murray out ? :wavey:

Now just chill and watch the trophy being bitten on sunday :wavey:

here take a few more while Im at it :wavey: :wavey:

and this with love from Rafa :wavey:

:wavey:

Ariel
07-02-2010, 08:54 PM
Berdych to win it in 3 or 4........This mentality worked for me for the semis so I'm going to do it for the finals as well. :)

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 08:58 PM
If Berdych serves and hits his FH well and not let the nerves take the better of him I think he has a realistic chance. Good thing is Nadal isn't returning serve as well as he used to :)

:wavey: French open 2010 all over again. Replace Soderling with Berdych. Thats all. Both took out Fed in the quarters and will lose to Rafa Nadal in straight sets in the finals. But be proud of your man Berdych. Next time you see him be sure to take some blueberries and starawberries or him which he could lay out on his wimbledon plate. :wavey:

for someone who is a Nando fan starnge you dislike Rafa so much. They are buddies to the T.

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 09:03 PM
Why is it that some Nadal fans - or should I say 'trolls'? - always speak in terms of 'blood', 'murder', 'war' etc. when it comes to any match of his?

I find it pretty off-putting.
It's only tennis, a GAME, fergodsakes. I really don't need those dreadful, nasty warfare images imposed on a sports event, thankyouverymuch indeed. :o

Please stop it.

shhhh you will wake up the clay warrior aka dwight

Forehander
07-02-2010, 09:05 PM
Berdych have no chance

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 09:09 PM
Berdych have no chance

come on everybody has a chance. Berdych will have to like have a first serve % of 80% plus consistently. Too many second serves and he will get broken atleast once each set.

.

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 09:13 PM
you just dont know when to stop do you :haha:

anyways mtf is seriously underestimating berdych here if rafa doesnt play his best tennis he can easily lose this match, im still gonna hope for the best and say rafa in 4 or 5 sets

dont think anyone is underestimating. 75% say rafa wins. bookies have that too. Berdych misses a lot of first serves. And if he doesnt serve well he is done. If he serves well he has a chance in the tiebreak. I dont see him winning too many rallies off the ground with Rafa. Murray was a maniac today returning all rafa shots and making him hit multiple winners for a point. Berdych cant do that. And every bow and then he will realize he is playing for the wimbledon title against the world number 1. That will be enough to make him freeze.

Sunset of Age
07-02-2010, 09:21 PM
The more who favour Rafa, the more I think I know I'll be putting on a few pennies on this match. :angel:

[EDIT]: ah no, odds aren't good enough for that. I will cherish my 35-1 bet on Berdych ending up as the overall winner, :lol:

M4RC
07-02-2010, 09:32 PM
howdy Rafa hater :wavey:

had fun watching sod lose to rafito ? :wavey:

had even more un watching Raftito take Murray out ? :wavey:

Now just chill and watch the trophy being bitten on sunday :wavey:

here take a few more while Im at it :wavey: :wavey:

and this with love from Rafa :wavey:

:wavey:

:rolls: :wavey:

FormerRafaFan
07-02-2010, 09:34 PM
I think Rafa is going to win Wimbledon again. But Berdych is good and I think he will take one sett off him. I'll say rafa in 4.

Orka_n
07-02-2010, 09:51 PM
Heart says Berdych. Head says Nadull.
But I would so love for Tomas to take this title. He CAN do it if he plays his best.

@Sweet Cleopatra
07-02-2010, 10:04 PM
howdy Rafa hater :wavey:

had fun watching sod lose to rafito ? :wavey:

had even more un watching Raftito take Murray out ? :wavey:

Now just chill and watch the trophy being bitten on sunday :wavey:

here take a few more while Im at it :wavey: :wavey:

and this with love from Rafa :wavey:

:wavey:

He is not a Rafa hater, he doesn't want to jinx him :cool:

Topspin Forehand
07-02-2010, 10:08 PM
Rafa in straight sets. He can definitely exploit Berdych's movement on a grass courts with his sliding serves and staying close to the baseline. Bossing Berdych around and tiring him out.

lazybear
07-02-2010, 10:09 PM
Berdych has the game to really trouble Nadal. Serve, huge forehand, double-handed backhand... But every other thing goes against him... It's his first final, Nadal had won, what 6 straight against him? And his opponent has probably the strongest mental game that sport ever seen. Nadal in 4.

tangerine_dream
07-02-2010, 10:14 PM
Dream Berdal final, no?

Topspin Forehand
07-02-2010, 10:17 PM
Dream Berdal final, no?
Nadych (nad itch) final. ;)

osmonde
07-02-2010, 11:16 PM
Heart says Berdych. Head says Nadull.
But I would so love for Tomas to take this title. He CAN do it if he plays his best.

*The problem for Berdych is that Nadal is playing at his best those days...
Murray played a very good match, but could not pass through

Nadal is on fire and will be more if Spain wins tomorrow at the WC.

Clay Death
07-02-2010, 11:25 PM
Berdych would need to play the game of his life to have a chance, even better then against Federer. It is his first final, he will be a bit nervous. So, no way. Might take a set at best.

Nadal is absolut brutal, insane determination. He will win 99.9%!

I bet all my vcash on Nadal.



affirmative. we called this early on commander as you will recall old sport. his intensity and his focus is beyond insane at this point.

he is on a quest. not even a runaway freight train is going to slow him down.

berdcyh brings an improved game to the battlefield but nobody can deal with clay warrior`s relentless will on natural surfaces when he is relatively healthy and fit.

aces and winners simply make no difference to him. he just keeps locking in the point that is in front of him. he takes it point by point. he grabs hold of a point that is in front of him and refuses to let go of it. and he tries to play the entire match like that.

take the first set against murray for instance: murray had something like 15-17 winners and 7 aces and still lost the set.

Clay Death
07-02-2010, 11:27 PM
*The problem for Berdych is that Nadal is playing at his best those days...
Murray played a very good match, but could not pass through

Nadal is on fire and will be more if Spain wins tomorrow at the WC.

the challenge is massive:

you not only have to try to beat the clay warrior but you have to try get in the way of his relentless will. not that easy to do.

the score today could have been a lot worse. he continues to return very poorly.

rocketassist
07-02-2010, 11:31 PM
Don't. Care.

HDW
07-03-2010, 12:09 AM
As much as I want birdman to win, it just isn't going to happen, Nadal is just playing so well.

Nadal in 3

Mjau!
07-03-2010, 12:23 AM
If Nadal wins it will just confirm that he cheated versus Petschner!

Clay Death
07-03-2010, 12:37 AM
If Nadal wins it will just confirm that he cheated versus Petschner!



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DuMa
07-03-2010, 12:44 AM
the real defending wimbledon champ will win again.

Mimi
07-03-2010, 01:02 AM
No matter rafa wins or not on Sunday, deep down the hearts of rafa's blind haters, even though they refuse to admit, they know that Rafa cannot get to the final 4 times by lucks and cheating only:rolleyes:, its time to show some respect to the true warrior king - Rafa, he does not possess the biggest serve or groundstrokes, he wins all his matches with his big heart and never say die attitude :bigclap::bigclap:

Sapeod
07-03-2010, 01:07 AM
Hope Berdy can win his first GS :yeah:

Come on Tomas, you can beat Nadal :yeah:

Topspin Forehand
07-03-2010, 02:01 AM
No matter rafa wins or not on Sunday, deep down the hearts of rafa's blind haters, even though they refuse to admit, they know that Rafa cannot get to the final 4 times by lucks and cheating only:rolleyes:, its time to show some respect to the true warrior king - Rafa, he does not possess the biggest serve or groundstrokes, he wins all his matches with his big heart and never say die attitude :bigclap::bigclap:
Uh I disagree here. His groundstrokes are pretty huge once he gets control of the point. Return of serve and serve are a little weak. That is why he struggles on fast surfaces.

Sunset of Age
07-03-2010, 02:05 AM
Shitty-Da-Hell, I just put 10K on Berdych. Must have been a misclick. Or a Jinx. Or whatsoever. :help: :o

Clay Death
07-03-2010, 02:18 AM
i am giving berdych no chance at all. none. zero.

its not that berdych is not great because he is. he has become a great player. its just that clay warrior is on a quest.

expect clay warrior to take whatever he rests his eyes on. you are not not only battling his game but you are also being forced to deal with his relentless will.

clay warrior in straight sets or 4 at best.

his consistent ground game that has the assault element built in--as you saw today-- forces you to play a more high risk game.

he cannot return well or great at the moment but so what. you only need to win the crucial/critical points. he will put some extra care into holding his serve in the final. expect sick and insane focus and mind numbing intensity for every single point.


murray had 15-17 winners and 7 aces in the first set alone and still lost the set. so large number of winners and aces mean nothing.

Topspin Forehand
07-03-2010, 03:00 AM
i am giving berdych no chance at all. none. zero.

its not that berdych is not great because he is. he has become a great player. its just that clay warrior is on a quest.

expect clay warrior to take whatever he rests his eyes on. you are not not only battling his game but you are also being forced to deal with his relentless will.

clay warrior in straight sets or 4 at best.

his consistent ground game that has the assault element built in--as you saw today-- forces you to play a more high risk game.

he cannot return well or great at the moment but so what. you only need to win the crucial/critical points. he will put some extra care into holding his serve in the final. expect sick and insane focus and mind numbing intensity for every single point.


murray had 15-17 winners and 7 aces in the first set alone and still lost the set. so large number of winners and aces mean nothing.
That and the whole court is basically dirt now. :lol: It's like playing on clay for Rafa.

Sophocles
07-03-2010, 03:12 AM
Berdych to bring Cheatael Flukedal back down to reality.

Er not really. Would be great for tennis if Berdych was able to produce an all-time great performance, because that's what it will take. Chances of that happening are slim.

rommel99
07-03-2010, 03:14 AM
using logic and reason : nadal. he probably will. but im going with berdych. go tomas!

Clay Death
07-03-2010, 03:21 AM
Berdych to bring Cheatael Flukedal back down to reality.

Er not really. Would be great for tennis if Berdych was able to produce an all-time great performance, because that's what it will take. Chances of that happening are slim.

negative old sport old friend.

what is best for tennis is what is actually transpiring right before your eyes.

and yes berdych has no chance at all. sooner or later he will meet head on with the relentless will of the warrior king in this match.

the reality is that there is just no dealing with the ultimate doomsday stroking machine when it is not a quest.

it is all about the quest old sport. and nobody is going to be allowed to get in the way of this quest. nobody.

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-03-2010, 03:29 AM
Logic states

SPARTA will rule as it should

RAFA will show Berdych what real tennis is

abraxas21
07-03-2010, 04:00 AM
Berdy not only has to have the game tuned up well enough to beat Nadal (something in itself very difficult) but also needs to overcome the pressure of being in his first GS final (in Wimbledon no less!). Usually it happens that the players who play their first GS final don't play as well as they had been playing. Nerves and expectations do affect people.

I see little chances for Birdy to win Wimbledon, tbh.

Action Jackson
07-03-2010, 04:02 AM
Berdych winning would be great for the game, but it's not happening.

He is more than likely to shit his pants and win about 7 games in total, will be glad to be proven wrong.

abraxas21
07-03-2010, 04:02 AM
Berdych to bring Cheatael Flukedal back down to reality.

Er not really. Would be great for tennis if Berdych was able to produce an all-time great performance, because that's what it will take. Chances of that happening are slim.

If this was, say, a QF match, I think he could pull off one of those performances (hell, he did it vs Fed!) but pulling a great performance in your first GS final is a very different thing...

Chances are slim indeed.

coonster14
07-03-2010, 04:12 AM
good luck to tomas :clap2:, all i hope for him is to play his best and see what happens.

nadal, VAMOS champ, lets get this 8th major and 2nd wimbledon in the bag!!!

i think nadal in 3 sets, something like 7-5,6-2,6-4.

DuMa
07-03-2010, 04:55 AM
Who do you think Fed wants to win?

lleytonfan!
07-03-2010, 04:58 AM
Rafa in 3 or 4. Go Rafa! He'll be too consistent for Berdych.

jackieglover
07-03-2010, 05:46 AM
tomas in four sets! if it goes to 5, rafa is going to take it :(

NADALbULLS
07-03-2010, 06:21 AM
I'm afraid Nadal in 3 easy sets :o

Don't be afraid its a good thing :D

freeandlonely
07-03-2010, 06:22 AM
Go Berrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

NADALbULLS
07-03-2010, 06:27 AM
I notice their head to head is 7-3 but Nadal has won their last 6 matches, and has won 14 straight sets lol

brent-o
07-03-2010, 06:38 AM
Beating Nadal in your first Grand Slam final would be one hell of an achievement. Given Berdych's track record of underachieving for so many years, I just can't believe that he's turned THAT big of a corner all of a sudden.

Commander Data
07-03-2010, 06:41 AM
Why is it that some Nadal fans - or should I say 'trolls'? - always speak in terms of 'blood', 'murder', 'war' etc. when it comes to any match of his?

I find it pretty off-putting.
It's only tennis, a GAME, fergodsakes. I really don't need those dreadful, nasty warfare images imposed on a sports event, thankyouverymuch indeed. :o

Please stop it.

It's a male thing. You can't understand it ;) :p

Commander Data
07-03-2010, 06:49 AM
relentless will.


expect sick and insane focus and mind numbing intensity for every single point.




I think thats the real secret of Nadal. That intensity is almost impossible to overcome. It would scare the shit out of myself too. You step on court you know whats coming your way. Its big and nasty.
You know exactly that even if you play the game of your life and after 4-5 hourse of brutal fighting it will get clutch, very clutch. Nadal will rise his intensity level once again, you just get tight for a second play save or hit UE and Nadal takes it.

Azurebi
07-03-2010, 06:54 AM
Just how Berdych can handle "it's Wimbledon final" pressure.
If he is no mental problem to be too passive like Murray, then we'll see really nice match!!

Azurebi
07-03-2010, 06:59 AM
At the end, it's mental.
You know, look at the stats at Nadal Murray match yesterday, Murray was even better but lost in 3.
Rafa's clutch mentality is just amazing. :bowdown:

If Berdych's left hand starts shaking to toss the ball to serve...

Quakes
07-03-2010, 07:02 AM
Berdych 7-5, 3-6, 6-7, 6-2, 6-4 Nadal

;)

Quakes
07-03-2010, 07:10 AM
Why is it that some Nadal fans - or should I say 'trolls'? - always speak in terms of 'blood', 'murder', 'war' etc. when it comes to any match of his?

I find it pretty off-putting.
It's only tennis, a GAME, fergodsakes. I really don't need those dreadful, nasty warfare images imposed on a sports event, thankyouverymuch indeed. :o

Please stop it.

I find it off-putting too, although it is kind of expected. George Orwell said: "As soon as prestige is involved, as soon as you feel that you and some larger unit will be disgraced if you loose, the most savage combative instincts are aroused... At the international level, sport is frankly mimic warfare."

It is always somewhat amusing to see fans as fired up as players, though.

careergrandslam
07-03-2010, 08:25 AM
if nadal cant win this one, then its time to retire.
nadal will never get a better chance.

ossie
07-03-2010, 08:32 AM
if nadal cant win this one, then its time to retire.
nadal will never get a better chance.not true, berdych is a different player now a very dangerous player who can take out nadal. rafa wouldve had an easier time against fed or the djoker imo

cardio
07-03-2010, 08:54 AM
Beating Nadal in your first Grand Slam final would be one hell of an achievement. Given Berdych's track record of underachieving for so many years, I just can't believe that he's turned THAT big of a corner all of a sudden.

Lendl won his first slam , when he was 24 y.o. also .And he had to beat McEnroe from two sets to love down to make it happen! Mac was in scary form in 1984, he only lost 3 matches in this season .
It is never too late. Lendl wasnt half as talented as Berdych and he had several slam finals under his belt though,when he at last won that RG trophy.
I agree that to beat Fed, Djoko and Nadal in a row in Wimby is almost mission impossible. I think it is gonna be tough and close match, bookies predict easy win for Rafa,but who knows ... Nadal was excellent in SF, final is another day and against another opponent, who actually has more firepower than Murka. Murray was under enormous pressure from public opinion and British media, he couldnt deliver.
Berdman is huge underdog, noone really expect him to win, perhaps this helps him a little.
By the way, this final brings also back memories from 2006, where their match in Madrid didnt end on friendly note...:devil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6udXOUAzvGc&feature=related

My prediction is Nadal 3-1.

Azurebi
07-03-2010, 09:02 AM
not true, berdych is a different player now a very dangerous player who can take out nadal. rafa wouldve had an easier time against fed or the djoker imo

I agree. Maybe some people here didn't see Berdych's match against Federer and Djokovic.
He is so different and a very dangerous player to Nadal tomorrow.

NadalSharapova
07-03-2010, 09:11 AM
if nadal cant win this one, then its time to retire.
nadal will never get a better chance.

federer would be an easier match than berdych for nadal

FSRteam
07-03-2010, 09:17 AM
Congrats on your 8th grand slam title rafa!

cardio
07-03-2010, 09:34 AM
Berdych 7-5, 3-6, 6-7, 6-2, 6-4 Nadal

;)

Berdych cant win in 5 . Nadal is 5 set monster and Berdman tend to lose his focus in long matches, also his fitness could be suspect if it goes to 5 ( AO vs Fed 2009 , RG SF vs Soda 2010 , vs Bolelli RG 2009, vs Llodra RG 2008, vs Safin Davis Cup 2008) If he wins, it must be in 3, maximum 4 sets. Encouraging fact for Berdych is that he is successful player against lefties.Hes has career 44-21 record against lefties on tour, this year 8-2 . Of course Nadal is not regular average lefty, but still it shows that he has no special problems with lefty serve or strokes.

toby1526
07-03-2010, 10:03 AM
I'll be watching it on Henman Hill, I think Nadal in three but hope its a 5 setter!

Bilbo
07-03-2010, 10:19 AM
Berdych will have a once in a lifetime short look at slam trophy but that's it. No touching. Just like Schuettler, Haas or Baggy.

Certinfy
07-03-2010, 10:54 AM
Bilbo's hate to Berdych is unbelievable, he won't shut up about the crap he brings up.

Halba
07-03-2010, 10:57 AM
I agree. Maybe some people here didn't see Berdych's match against Federer and Djokovic.
He is so different and a very dangerous player to Nadal tomorrow.

such easy power on the serve and forehand. but sadly in protracted baseline rallies what is he going to do?

Certinfy
07-03-2010, 11:04 AM
such easy power on the serve and forehand. but sadly in protracted baseline rallies what is he going to do?
If he has the right tactics tomorrow he shouldn't even get into any long rallies.

ossie
07-03-2010, 11:04 AM
such easy power on the serve and forehand. but sadly in protracted baseline rallies what is he going to do?
he doesnt have to do anything if he manages to keep those rallies short

careergrandslam
07-03-2010, 11:16 AM
nadal cannot take berdych lightly.
nadal will have to play even better than he did against murray to beat berdych.
birdman's serve is massive esp. the 2nd serve.
his forehand is huge and his backhand is as good as murrays.

nadal better have his A+ game in the final.

i dont care what anyone here says, nadal will be in for an almighty war in the final.
this will be a big match in nadal's career.
a career defining match for nadal.

this is a golden chance for rafa, and he cannot waste it.

Vida
07-03-2010, 11:28 AM
rafa in 4 or 5.
or Im overrating berdych incredibly.

l_mac
07-03-2010, 11:39 AM
Bilbo's hate to Berdych is unbelievable, he won't shut up about the crap he brings up.

How can it be unbelievable to a hater like you :confused:

NADALbULLS
07-03-2010, 11:53 AM
Berdych plays a very high-risk game, and that's not easy to deliver with if you are nervous. I thought he played a very messy tie-breaker vs Djokovic and that's what makes me think he isn't fully tough mentally. Djokovic handed him the tie-break with a double-fault.

Certinfy
07-03-2010, 11:56 AM
Berdych plays a very high-risk game, and that's not easy to deliver with if you are nervous. I thought he played a very messy tie-breaker vs Djokovic and that's what makes me think he isn't fully tough mentally. Djokovic handed him the tie-break with a double-fault.
He played a stunning TB up to 6-2 and then the nerves really kicked in, but yes if he's nervous tomorrow at any stage in the match, Nadal will take advantage.

NadalSharapova
07-03-2010, 12:00 PM
Bilbo's hate to Berdych is unbelievable, he won't shut up about the crap he brings up.

he certainly says less crap than you do.

octatennis
07-03-2010, 01:02 PM
Berdych in 3.

NADALbULLS
07-03-2010, 01:04 PM
It is good that Nadal played Haase and Petz in the 1st week, it gave him recent experienced against guys hitting the ball big both with serve and groundstroke. He'll have confidence that he can find a way to beat Berdych even if Berdych is on fire. Those guys were getting 80% of 1st serves into play and at high speeds. For Berdych to win he has to serve at least around that level and also he has to be clutch in tie-breakers, because I don't expect him to break Nadal's serve much if at all.

Clay Death
07-03-2010, 01:11 PM
I think thats the real secret of Nadal. That intensity is almost impossible to overcome. It would scare the shit out of myself too. You step on court you know whats coming your way. Its big and nasty.
You know exactly that even if you play the game of your life and after 4-5 hourse of brutal fighting it will get clutch, very clutch. Nadal will rise his intensity level once again, you just get tight for a second play save or hit UE and Nadal takes it.


affirmative commander. spot on as usual old sport.

additionally they all know that they have little or no chance. nobody really believes in their heart of hearts that they can deal with his relentless will and his unremitting intensity and focus.

i saw one of the murray interviews before the match for instance. he specifically used the word "chance". he said if he did various things right he would have a "chance".

it was the same with borg. i was reading somewhere that nobody in the locker room believed that had any chance against borg on clay and grass if borg was healthy and fit.

cobalt60
07-03-2010, 01:13 PM
Nadal in 3 or 4. He is just too good.

arch_enemy
07-03-2010, 05:12 PM
Rafa in 4

green25814
07-03-2010, 05:13 PM
Probably Rafa.

Manequin75
07-03-2010, 07:41 PM
It is good that Nadal played Haase and Petz in the 1st week, it gave him recent experienced against guys hitting the ball big both with serve and groundstroke. He'll have confidence that he can find a way to beat Berdych even if Berdych is on fire. Those guys were getting 80% of 1st serves into play and at high speeds. For Berdych to win he has to serve at least around that level and also he has to be clutch in tie-breakers, because I don't expect him to break Nadal's serve much if at all.

Yeah but if he gets 2 sets to 1 down against Berdych tomorrow then it will be tough. Berdych will not fold like Haase and Phillip. Berdych surely has a chance in my view. If he is only able to take care of his service games he could win the match by winning 3 of 4 tiebreaks. Big servers always have an edge in the tiebreaks. I also thought Soderling had a chance against Fed in last years french open but that match was a disaster for sod. This one could either be a disaster for berdych and totally non-competitive or it could very well be a scary one for rafa.

most experts and fans are overwhelmingly thinking its a no-brainer for rafa. Maybe berydych has nothing to lose and he will be swinging freely who knows. Serve is such a big weapon on grass and always favors the person with more power.

Lets see. I still think rafa wins this easily just because I am thinking berdych will be missing enough first serves to get broken a few times. But assuming the serve is on fire i think chances even out only because berdych is not a fluke ya know who will fold from a winning position.

osmonde
07-03-2010, 07:55 PM
Spain could fire up Nadal if they win at WC :)

I presume that Berdych, having lost to Nadal in January on hard court, and to Soderling in RG, proves that he is vulnerable. Djoko almost let go yesterday on double-fault at set point...and Berdych had many hiccups on his part.
Nadal played fantastic against Murray who himself had a great game.
I see Nadal prevailing.

Manequin75
07-03-2010, 08:09 PM
Spain could fire up Nadal if they win at WC :)

I see Nadal prevailing.

spain will fireup Nadal if they win or lose :)

Rafa will use both results mentally as motivation. Its like ok spain lost let me make up for it by winning wimbledon :)

General Suburbia
07-03-2010, 10:17 PM
Nadal has good chances. The weather's good, and courts have turned to dirt. He's playing very well.

Gladiator
07-03-2010, 10:34 PM
If this final in Hard court Tomas may have a chance, but in grass , no way
Rafa in 4

Corey Feldman
07-03-2010, 10:49 PM
the one who cant play tennis, ol illegal strings

Nadal title will have a * next to it anyway because he didnt beat Federer.. who was injured.

safin-rules-no.1
07-03-2010, 10:51 PM
Nadal will win. When will he pose in gay magazines? soon?

l_mac
07-03-2010, 10:52 PM
edit: no. Mikey's had a bad week :hug:

FormerRafaFan
07-03-2010, 10:57 PM
I don't think it will be as easy for Rafa as many are saying. Berdych is playing really well this Wimbledon and Rafa has to be on top of his game if he wants to win. I don't know which Rafa is going to show up either, if it's average Rafa I'd say Berdych in 5, if it's the Rafa we saw against Murray I'd say Rafa in 3 or 4.

Manequin75
07-03-2010, 11:34 PM
you want a tennis gibberish why berdych might struggle - if you have seen him play fed and djko it is his inside out forehand that has won him lots of points. He has some angles to those. These go to the backhand of the right handed Fed and Djko and they struggled. They either had an error or mostly returned it cross court for berdych to either go down the line for a winner or another forehand cross court with an even greater angle to draw the error. Now this inside out forehand goes to Rafa's forehand since he is a lefty. ANd rafa makes those shots in his sleep. Now rafa with his forehand can also go down the line with lot of topspin and of course crosscourt with equal amount of ease. Rafa pace and spin will put Berdych under pressure and draw errors or make his next shot drop shot and Rafa will then go offensive and the point is pretty much over then.

To beat Rafa, berdych will have to go cross court with his forehand to Rafa's backhand more often - that would be some change from his bread and butter from the Fed and Djko match.

Rafa will take him out of his comfort zone and errors will creep in.

Well thats how I see it. I am curious to see Berdych's strategies in this match.

Matt01
07-04-2010, 12:42 AM
Nadal title will have a * next to it anyway because he didnt beat Federer.. who was injured.


How many ***s has Federer for his Slam wins already? :rolleyes:

RafaTheBest
07-04-2010, 01:00 AM
Who will the chair umpire be?

Bowie
07-04-2010, 01:23 AM
Who will the chair umpire be?
I know you were joking, but anyway, it's surely going to be either Lahayani or Keothavong.

coonster14
07-04-2010, 01:56 AM
spain won in WC and they are now in the SF's, hence rafa should be pretty pumped up and intense for the win.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
07-04-2010, 02:21 AM
berdych owns this mug 6-2 7-6 6-4

and ends the mug pusher one skill- topspin forehand loser's reign at the top of mens tennis

and when fed isn't injured he will win wimby next year

all round good day then

Mimi
07-04-2010, 03:23 AM
berdych owns this mug 6-2 7-6 6-4

and ends the mug pusher one skill- topspin forehand loser's reign at the top of mens tennis

and when fed isn't injured he will win wimby next year

all round good day then

i didn't know fed was injured during the final of wimby 08?

RafaTheBest
07-04-2010, 05:32 AM
spain won in WC and they are now in the SF's, hence rafa should be pretty pumped up and intense for the win.

I almost think it would have been better had Spain lost as Nadal would have come out pissed and unleashed his fury on Berdych.

NADALbULLS
07-04-2010, 06:39 AM
Yeah but if he gets 2 sets to 1 down against Berdych tomorrow then it will be tough. Berdych will not fold like Haase and Phillip. Berdych surely has a chance in my view. If he is only able to take care of his service games he could win the match by winning 3 of 4 tiebreaks. Big servers always have an edge in the tiebreaks. I also thought Soderling had a chance against Fed in last years french open but that match was a disaster for sod. This one could either be a disaster for berdych and totally non-competitive or it could very well be a scary one for rafa.

most experts and fans are overwhelmingly thinking its a no-brainer for rafa. Maybe berydych has nothing to lose and he will be swinging freely who knows. Serve is such a big weapon on grass and always favors the person with more power.

Lets see. I still think rafa wins this easily just because I am thinking berdych will be missing enough first serves to get broken a few times. But assuming the serve is on fire i think chances even out only because berdych is not a fluke ya know who will fold from a winning position.

Still, Djokovic and Federer's level of tennis was crap compared to Nadal's current level. So you can't compare Berdych's previous matches to Nadal, and Nadal is playing better than he was in the 1st week. But yeah I agree I doubt Nadal will be down 1 set to 2 anyway, because he's clutch in Finals especially while Berdych is a GS Finals rookie.

Start da Game
07-04-2010, 06:42 AM
it won't be a thrashing.......nadal will do this in 4 sets.......berdych will take one set.......

NADALbULLS
07-04-2010, 06:48 AM
Nadal going for his 15th 16th and 17th consecutive sets won over Berdych :p

moon language
07-04-2010, 07:05 AM
If Berdych comes out nervous then Nadal in 3 or 4. If Berdych is not nervous at the start then this match could get really interesting and go 5 sets.

Bargearse
07-04-2010, 07:06 AM
I'll probably watch the first set & go to bed. I have no desire to watch Berdych get the shit kicked out of him by my least fav player. :ras: Hopefully Berdych will put in a respectable effort, but I think he'll done and dusted in straight sets.

Bargearse
07-04-2010, 07:09 AM
the one who cant play tennis, ol illegal strings

Nadal title will have a * next to it anyway because he didnt beat Federer.. who was injured.

Just like Federer's French Open 09 title has an * next to it because he didn't have to play Nadal who was injured.

Bargearse
07-04-2010, 07:11 AM
i didn't know fed was injured during the final of wimby 08?

Didn't you know that Federer doesn't lose unless he is injured? :shrug: He said it himself, 'When I'm healthy, I can beat all of these guys.' err... I mean 'handle' these guys.

NADALbULLS
07-04-2010, 07:22 AM
Didn't you know that Federer doesn't lose unless he is injured? :shrug: He said it himself, 'When I'm healthy, I can beat all of these guys.' err... I mean 'handle' these guys.

It be hard for his fans to defend that quote, it reeks of exactly what they accuse Nadal of lol

Bargearse
07-04-2010, 07:30 AM
It be hard for his fans to defend that quote, it reeks of exactly what they accuse Nadal of lol

I agree. :topic:I'm a Fed fan and it's disappointing to hear him make excuses like that. Obviously his ego was bruised after getting schooled by one of 'those guys' and he was too bitter to give Berdych his due credit. Not classy. :baby:

Zagor
07-04-2010, 07:42 AM
If the occasion doesn't get to Berdych I think he'll swing away and take a set so Nadal in 4 with Berdman taking the 1st set IMO.

Either way,even if I don't expect him to win I'm very glad Berdych finally reached his first slam final(hopefully more will come in the future).

pica_pica
07-04-2010, 07:57 AM
Rafa 90%. But I won't count Tomas out, having beaten Roger and Novak in a row. Maybe he'll shock the world by beating the top 3 to lift the trophy? :p

NADALbULLS
07-04-2010, 08:21 AM
The key is that Berdych's biggest weapon is the inside-out forehand and it goes to Nadal's forehand rather than going to Nadal's backhand. That's how Berdych hurt Federer and Djokovic it went to their backhand. Nadal's forehand will destroy Berdych's big weapon. Serve is the other big weapon, but that's nothing new to Nadal.

Certinfy
07-04-2010, 08:24 AM
The key is that Berdych's biggest weapon is the inside-out forehand and it goes to Nadal's forehand rather than going to Nadal's backhand. That's how Berdych hurt Federer and Djokovic it went to their backhand. Nadal's forehand will destroy Berdych's big weapon. Serve is the other big weapon, but that's nothing new to Nadal.
Doubt it will hurt Berdych a lot, with the pace he puts on it Nadal will have a relatively hard time trying to control and hit his FH the way he wants, but yes it will hurt Berdych every now and then. Good thing here though is that Berdych's BHDTL goes into Nadal's BH would could be key if Berdych hits it well.

NADALbULLS
07-04-2010, 08:52 AM
Doubt it will hurt Berdych a lot, with the pace he puts on it Nadal will have a relatively hard time trying to control and hit his FH the way he wants, but yes it will hurt Berdych every now and then. Good thing here though is that Berdych's BHDTL goes into Nadal's BH would could be key if Berdych hits it well.

Nadal is a lot faster than Djokovic and Federer, his court coverage will counter the backhand down the line, and Nadal's running backhand passing shot is ranked Number One on tour, no problema.

Certinfy
07-04-2010, 08:56 AM
Nadal is a lot faster than Djokovic and Federer, his court coverage will counter the backhand down the line, and Nadal's running backhand passing shot is ranked Number One on tour, no problema.
I doubt Berdych will come to the net to finish off those points off, so as good as Nadal's court coverage is, Berdych just has to try get an advantage by playing into it. But like you said if Berdych would come to net after his BHDTL approaches, Nadal would pass him a lot.

kooties
07-04-2010, 09:20 AM
Berdych just needs to control the center of the court and avoid getting pushed side to side. If I were him, I'd just go apeshit on blasting forehands to the center of the court, and putting away the incoming floater.

That and he needs his serve, badly. 70% would probably be the minimum he needs for this match.

NADALbULLS
07-04-2010, 09:30 AM
I wonder if Nadal holds a grudge regarding Berdych's behavior. It was a long time ago but in one of their early meetings Berdych beat Nadal, after winning matchpoint Berdych put his finger to his lips vertically for the symbol "shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" and looked at the crowd, and the crowd booed a lot and then Nadal told him off for doing it. And Berdych raised his arms like 'what's the big deal??'

NADALbULLS
07-04-2010, 09:56 AM
Is the Queen attending Nadal's Final?

superslam77
07-04-2010, 10:06 AM
Rafatards should start gloating so we don't have to hear you later.

superslam77
07-04-2010, 10:08 AM
I wonder if Nadal holds a grudge regarding Berdych's behavior. It was a long time ago but in one of their early meetings Berdych beat Nadal, after winning matchpoint Berdych put his finger to his lips vertically for the symbol "shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" and looked at the crowd, and the crowd booed a lot and then Nadal told him off for doing it. And Berdych raised his arms like 'what's the big deal??'

Fanatic Rafatard crowd started booing Berdych, plus time wasting tactics and ass dig.

Danni John
07-04-2010, 10:13 AM
No doubt Rafa will win

Legend Rafa V5:worship:

allpro
07-04-2010, 10:14 AM
i like t-berd so i hope the scoreline isn't too embarassing.

6-4, 6-3, 6-3 nadal.

Halba
07-04-2010, 10:15 AM
based upon each player's performances /trends in the prior 3 rounds, nadal is getting better since mathieu, and berdych plateaued against djokovic(who played poorly), and berdych struggled to stay in the 2nd set(which he won due to djoko errors in the tie break).

nadal's fh was just too much for murray and will be for berdych.

berdych's serve %'s have only been in the mid 50s. He has gotten through his games due to clutch 1st delivery. this serve % is not enough to beat nadal.

also the court will be slower come the final, it is at its slowest ebb(apart from the service)

saniapower
07-04-2010, 12:48 PM
Rafa has this in his bag.

Johnny_Bravo
07-04-2010, 12:53 PM
Tomas Berdych in 5

Dimitra
07-04-2010, 12:56 PM
Tomas in 4 :o

Bilbo
07-04-2010, 12:59 PM
I wonder if Nadal holds a grudge regarding Berdych's behavior. It was a long time ago but in one of their early meetings Berdych beat Nadal, after winning matchpoint Berdych put his finger to his lips vertically for the symbol "shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" and looked at the crowd, and the crowd booed a lot and then Nadal told him off for doing it. And Berdych raised his arms like 'what's the big deal??'

Berdych has always been a brat on court. That's why many players don't like him. This will pump up Rafa even more.

Mjau!
07-04-2010, 01:02 PM
I wonder if Nadal holds a grudge regarding Berdych's behavior. It was a long time ago but in one of their early meetings Berdych beat Nadal, after winning matchpoint Berdych put his finger to his lips vertically for the symbol "shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" and looked at the crowd, and the crowd booed a lot and then Nadal told him off for doing it. And Berdych raised his arms like 'what's the big deal??'

The parisian crowd is stupid, no? :tears:

Sapeod
07-04-2010, 01:06 PM
I wonder if Nadal holds a grudge regarding Berdych's behavior. It was a long time ago but in one of their early meetings Berdych beat Nadal, after winning matchpoint Berdych put his finger to his lips vertically for the symbol "shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" and looked at the crowd, and the crowd booed a lot and then Nadal told him off for doing it. And Berdych raised his arms like 'what's the big deal??'
He was playing Nadal and the crowd were Spanish, what did you expect? :rolleyes: Berdych silenced the crowd by beating Nadal (because almost all of them were on Nadal's sides) and I hope he does that again :D

oranges
07-04-2010, 02:22 PM
Berdych has always been a brat on court.

No, he hasn't in any respect. You're just still sour that he thupmed Nadal and shushed the Madrid crowd, which BTW was one of the best and most legendary non-tennis moves on court in the past decade.

yomike
07-04-2010, 02:37 PM
Berdych is done beating Nadal. I think he needs to bring something new if he wants to beat him again. I don't think he is even won a set against him in their last five or so matches.