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Wimbledon SF: Nadal bulldozes Murray 6-4, 7-6(6), 6-4

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Start da Game
07-02-2010, 06:19 PM
what a thumping!

Start da Game
07-02-2010, 06:20 PM
murray was just overpowered........

Leo
07-02-2010, 06:20 PM
Murray useless.

scoobs
07-02-2010, 06:20 PM
Congrats Rafa.

Better player won, simply.

Priam
07-02-2010, 06:20 PM
Murray's 1st serve% in the 3rd?!!?!!??!

yuri27
07-02-2010, 06:20 PM
Good to see this pusher losing.:)

ReturnWinner
07-02-2010, 06:20 PM
Murray so soft...

Frooty_Bazooty
07-02-2010, 06:20 PM
Murray didnt play badly, Nadal was just ridiculously good. There is noone who could have beaten him today

centralviva
07-02-2010, 06:20 PM
yes yes yes!!!!! so glad to see the pusher given a master class take the title now Rafa:bounce:

rocketassist
07-02-2010, 06:21 PM
Murray's forehand = absolutely fucking embarrassing.

Nadal played well. I was right about the match up.

Mechlan
07-02-2010, 06:21 PM
Murray not enough firepower, Nadal was fairly comfortable in the end.

Priam
07-02-2010, 06:21 PM
By no means was it bulldozing btw. Good match!!

Clydey
07-02-2010, 06:21 PM
Bulldozes? Give me a break. The big points decided this match. Rafa played brilliantly on them, while Murray didn't.

Leo
07-02-2010, 06:21 PM
Correct the title: it was 6-4 first set.

The Freak
07-02-2010, 06:21 PM
Predictable. Nadal is the more aggressive player on this surface.

NYCtennisfan
07-02-2010, 06:22 PM
Congrats Rafa.

Better player won, simply.

Indeed. I agreed with Clydey that if Murray served well that he would have a really good chance, but Murray DID serve really well in the first two sets and still didn't win either set although he had his chances in the second.

Well played.

wolves_fan
07-02-2010, 06:22 PM
hahaha nice to see the scot flop once more

ReturnWinner
07-02-2010, 06:22 PM
Nadull served well and hit incredibly with his fh, so powerful and was clutch, all the opposite for Murray, soft in key moments.

Start da Game
07-02-2010, 06:22 PM
Murray's forehand = absolutely fucking embarrassing.

Nadal played well. I was right about the match up.

that's about it in a nutshell........nadal wasn't even playing his best tennis........

tae04
07-02-2010, 06:22 PM
Murray is so useless. Will never win a Slam it seems.

Bilbo
07-02-2010, 06:22 PM
4th final in a row for nadal

what a player

RubberDuckling
07-02-2010, 06:22 PM
The "pusher" hit 6 more winners than Nadal today.

Smoke944
07-02-2010, 06:22 PM
Mary Carillo: "I just don't think cute can beat Nadal"

Couldn't agree with her more. Nadal playing well is a force of nature regardless of the surface. He can be had but you have to play so well, he's just so tough and he doesn't give you anything easy.

madmax
07-02-2010, 06:23 PM
Mugray chokes...yet again. Too much pressure for this scott it seems

UsD.AnDreS
07-02-2010, 06:23 PM
Omg... Imo the scoreline is no fucking near of what a humiliation it was... Rafa dominated almost every rally...Murray was all about serve and some good shots ..the points Murray won looked like a fluke considering Rafa's domination... oh my gosh..

Leo
07-02-2010, 06:23 PM
Bulldozes? Give me a break. The big points decided this match. Rafa played brilliantly on them, while Murray didn't.

Murray won 0 important points. The only break point he converted was at the very beginning of the 3rd set, a fairly useless time. It was pretty much a bulldozing. You could tell by the way Nadal returned Murray's second serve at 6-5 in the 2nd set tiebreak and then moved forward to the net: no fear, no pressure. At ease all day long.

Polikarpov
07-02-2010, 06:23 PM
Bulldozes? Murray was leading the total points won at one time.

Congrats Nadal. Clutch!

Filo V.
07-02-2010, 06:23 PM
The "pusher" hit 6 more winners than Nadal today.
A lot of that could be service winners.

Montego
07-02-2010, 06:23 PM
Nadal was ridicolously awesome :eek:

yuri27
07-02-2010, 06:23 PM
Murray can't win a GS with such a poor FH.
It's probably even worse than Gasquet's FH

Bilbo
07-02-2010, 06:23 PM
Nadal will bulldoze Berdych on Sunday

ReturnWinner
07-02-2010, 06:23 PM
Murray served well but no in the key moments, had set point on serve and missed the fs and lost all the games where faced bp.

green25814
07-02-2010, 06:24 PM
Unlucky Muzz. Could potentially have won the 2nd and 3rd sets, but Rafa was just impossible on the big points, credit to him, he was superb.

NADALbULLS
07-02-2010, 06:24 PM
Never has a player played so well and lost in straight sets, well done Murray you have nothing to be ashamed of.

PiggyGotRoasted
07-02-2010, 06:24 PM
Anti Tennis

Serenidad
07-02-2010, 06:24 PM
Lucky cheating in that TB. Murray just got covered in grease and bacon drippings today. He couldn't recover. This is so sad that this continues.

It is okay because Pig can't fly so the Bird will be safe from all the grease and mud.

Wolfy
07-02-2010, 06:24 PM
Never in doubt
This under pressure cross court clown never really done anything at big points
Rafa was the one always in control.

Murray will never win a Slam

Voo de Mar
07-02-2010, 06:24 PM
Obviously Nadal is better than Murray everywhere but I'm disappointed the Scot couldn't even win a set although Haase and Petzschner had won 2 sets against Nadal :o

octatennis
07-02-2010, 06:24 PM
dedicated to corey feldman.

yuri27
07-02-2010, 06:24 PM
Omg... Imo the scoreline is no fucking near of what a humiliation it was... Rafa dominated almost every rally...Murray was all about serve and some good shots ..the points Murray won looked like a fluke considering Rafa's domination... oh my gosh..


Yeah i agree.
Nadal defeated Andy Karlovic today

danton
07-02-2010, 06:25 PM
One dimensional from Murray. None of the usual mix of shots, barely going for the line not putting Nadal under pressure, poor shot choice at key times.

You can say that also about the two slam finals he's been in. Mentally he seems stuck on auto pilot.

moon language
07-02-2010, 06:25 PM
I feel bad for Murray. Glad to see Nadal back in another Wimbledon final though.

NADALbULLS
07-02-2010, 06:25 PM
Nadal very much the Michael Jordan of tennis, the clutchness and the athleticism the hallmark of both athletes.

Silvester
07-02-2010, 06:25 PM
coming from a Fed fan, I didn't think Nadal could pull it off, especially not in straight sets. Gotta give credit where it's due even though I don't like it.

Clydey
07-02-2010, 06:25 PM
Up a break in the 3rd set, served for the second set. Some of the people on here need to watch the match again.

Fedexex
07-02-2010, 06:25 PM
Idiot:rolleyes:
Missed such a great chance:(

MagicMilan
07-02-2010, 06:25 PM
Rafa, it is an honor to be your fan (unlike my other fav) :worship:
You monster! That was amazing :D
Andy wasn't bad, credit to him too :)

tyruk14
07-02-2010, 06:25 PM
Hate to say it, but Nadal looked like the world number one today. I thought it was a fluke when he won those three straight masters series without facing one of his slayers (such as Davydenko, Del Potro, etc) but I was wrong. Looks like he's about to pick up where he left off in late '08 early '09.

Andy Murray had a good run, and he should take positive things from that; and he's still a better hardcourt player than Nadal, until the world number one proves otherwise.

djb84xi
07-02-2010, 06:26 PM
Congrats to Rafa on reaching his 4th Wimbledon final in 5 years. I never thought a Spaniard would be so dominant at Wimbledon the way he's been the last few years. My respect goes to Muzz because he gave a hell of an effort, but Rafa was too strong for him today.

jasmin
07-02-2010, 06:26 PM
Totally predictable. Murray doesn't seem to be able to beat certain players in slams.

I'm Fed fan and I knew Nadal would be Murray...no problem.

Filo V.
07-02-2010, 06:26 PM
Anyway, I am surprised, I thought Murray would get it there and take it, but not only did Rafa absolutely not allow him too, but Andy just was not forceful enough. He doesn't do enough offensively with the ball to beat top players when they are on their A game, it's that simple. Murray served well and got a lot of service winners but Rafa controlled the majority of the rallies. Very well played.

Can't see Rafa losing this now.

Orka_n
07-02-2010, 06:26 PM
"Bulldozes" :haha: As usual, Nadull's opponent self-destructs. Murray is a joke who can't even win a set with this crowd support.

@Sweet Cleopatra
07-02-2010, 06:26 PM
Anti Tennis

How is that?

rafa_maniac
07-02-2010, 06:26 PM
Both played really well, Rafa is just a legend when it really counts, this is why I love the guy. 4 Wimbledons played, 4 finals reached, as good as his credentials on clay are I think it's about time to start appreciating his quite remarkable performances on grass aswell.

raven gypsy
07-02-2010, 06:26 PM
What an exciting match.

Well done Murray - terrific aces and shotmaking. Everybody appreciates the pressure he was under (sorry Brits).

Rafa - :worship: winning the key points.
Two terrific players did tennis very well today!

Rafa, "Andy Murray will win a grand slam soon. He's a nice guy". He shows great respect for his fellow players and I think that there is good respect/friendship between these two.

born_on_clay
07-02-2010, 06:27 PM
Dedicated especially to Glory :haha:
who still lives with his dreams :haha:

Björki
07-02-2010, 06:27 PM
well done Rafa :yeah:

federernadalfan
07-02-2010, 06:28 PM
Rafa just tooo solid too good
:hatoff: to both players
rafa catch your second wimbledon trophy and 8th grand slam !!!!

gorgo1986
07-02-2010, 06:28 PM
Nadal was clutch in the key points today, he became aggressive in those precise moments and won in three. Nadal has beaten two of the top five(since Soderling will be ranked fifth now) to get to the final. He is a living legend just like Federer. Good luck in the final Rafa. VAMOS!!!

Murray fans should be happy, he has had a horrid past couple of months and is finally playing some good tennis.

Ivanatis
07-02-2010, 06:28 PM
It was over when Rafa kept Murray from converting setpoint at 6-4 6-6(5-6*). Great win, I hope he will grab the title.

Azurebi
07-02-2010, 06:28 PM
This is just how Murray can't win a slam although he can beat anyone.

The real clutch mentality, Rafa :hatoff:

born_on_clay
07-02-2010, 06:28 PM
Sparta !!!!

Quadruple Tree
07-02-2010, 06:29 PM
Honestly never in doubt. Murray was never going to beat Nadal without a forehand. Pretty predictable result. It was Murray's serve that helped him keep this one close.

Noleta
07-02-2010, 06:29 PM
It is okay because Pig can't fly so the Bird will be safe from all the grease and mud.

:spit:

Rafa:worship:He managed to hold his nerves on the bigger points:yeah:

Murray:hug:Played well but wasn't good enough i guess:hug:

born_on_clay
07-02-2010, 06:29 PM
Honestly I feel a bit sorry for Murray...

NYCtennisfan
07-02-2010, 06:29 PM
Up a break in the 3rd set, served for the second set. Some of the people on here need to watch the match again.

The match was close because of Murray's incredible serving the first two sets. The rallies were all going Nadal's way and you knew that Murray would falter on serve sooner or later and he did.

Murray dominated Nadal at the USO and AO, but Nadal did dominate him here two times now.

osalsyst
07-02-2010, 06:29 PM
What a boring day of tennis. Second set tbs decided both matches. Bad feeling the final is gonna be the same. Oh well. Congrats Nadal but I'm rooting for Berdy.

HarryMan
07-02-2010, 06:30 PM
Like I said Nadal is virtually unplayable on grass and beating him here is next to impossible. Prime Federer stopped him twice before Nadal had hit his prime.

Tough luck Andy, you just got outplayed on the big points by a monster.

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 06:30 PM
A lot of that could be service winners.

murray had like maybe 10 more caes than rafa...

murray played really well I think. His best match this tournament. Rafa doesnt belong on this planet. Im glad atleast one half of fedal in the final.

n8
07-02-2010, 06:30 PM
Bulldozes? Give me a break. The big points decided this match. Rafa played brilliantly on them, while Murray didn't.

Yep. Nadal only won 7 more points; 98-91. One the best straight sets matches I've ever seen.

UsD.AnDreS
07-02-2010, 06:31 PM
What are you talking about, its the other way around, if anything. Do you remember Murray having set point on his serve in the TB? Nadal won 7 more points than Murray in the match, hardly a humiliation.

I watche the TB and at 3-4 thought that the only way Murray can win it - make 2 big serves, then get lucky at 1 of 2 points at Rafa's serve and the get lucky at 6-5 on his serve. And when he didn't get lucky at 6-5(after a gifted DF by Nadal) I definitely though it was over

Polikarpov
07-02-2010, 06:31 PM
Nadal is just close to impossible to defeat when the court has already worn up and hardened. The best chance to beat Nadal in Wimbledon is during the first week where the courts are still lush.

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 06:31 PM
Honestly I feel a bit sorry for Murray...

me too actually. Australian open 2011 i give to him ;)

TennisOnWood
07-02-2010, 06:32 PM
It is an honour to be yor fan Rafa :worship:

3rd youngest player with 10 Grand Slam finals but true tennis history will be written this Sunday

Just mind blowing 99-1 score in Grand Slam matches after taking first set

AndyUK
07-02-2010, 06:32 PM
Good match and a very good performance from Rafa. He deserved the win. Murray had his chances to win the second and third sets but the best players come alive on the big points and that is what Nadal did. Looking forward to watching the final.

jenanun
07-02-2010, 06:32 PM
Nadal is just close to impossible to defeat when the court has already worn up and hardened. The best chance to beat Nadal is Wimbledon is during the first week where the courts are still lush.

actually half of the court has already turned into clay....

Rafaspin
07-02-2010, 06:32 PM
People saying Nadal was brilliant? He was clutch, but still below his best. Room for improvement against Tomas.

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 06:32 PM
Honestly I feel a bit sorry for Murray...

me too actually. Australian open 2011 i give to him ;)

Cant give him Us open this year. Need Fed to strike back into form there.

Clydey
07-02-2010, 06:33 PM
The match was close because of Murray's incredible serving the first two sets. The rallies were all going Nadal's way and you knew that Murray would falter on serve sooner or later and he did.

Murray dominated Nadal at the USO and AO, but Nadal did dominate him here two times now.

I don't agree at all, particularly in the 2nd set. This was about the big points.

Roddickominator
07-02-2010, 06:33 PM
Murray just had too much pression on him to beat an on fire Nadal here. I thought he'd come out like he did at the Aussie Open and keep Rafa in a defensive position and off-balance...but that's just a lot tougher to do on grass.

NadalSharapova
07-02-2010, 06:33 PM
easy easy easy, i fell like i'm stealing money from the bookie here

rocketassist
07-02-2010, 06:33 PM
The match was close because of Murray's incredible serving the first two sets. The rallies were all going Nadal's way and you knew that Murray would falter on serve sooner or later and he did.

Murray dominated Nadal at the USO and AO, but Nadal did dominate him here two times now.

Yep, and it's because hardcourts allow Murray to flatten it out against him whereas on grass Nadal is so much better and doesn't give as many chances to tee off.

rhinooooo
07-02-2010, 06:33 PM
Well deserved for Rafa. Murray played too passive as usual, and hard to think that you can really win it all when your forehand and 2nd serve are still such liabilities.

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 06:34 PM
actually half of the court has already turned into clay....

thats not clay. Nadal cant move and slide like the way he does on clay. And the bounce is different. It is like a hard court more than clay. Thats what Murray also said in his presser day before.

NADALbULLS
07-02-2010, 06:34 PM
5-time French Open Champion and Multiple Wimbledon Champion with plenty more on the way :yeah:

moonlightdance
07-02-2010, 06:34 PM
rafa's poise on the big points never ceases to amaze me. nice match for a 3-setter. good luck sunday, rafa.

Il Primo Uomo
07-02-2010, 06:35 PM
Lucky cheating in that TB. Murray just got covered in grease and bacon drippings today. He couldn't recover. This is so sad that this continues.

It is okay because Pig can't fly so the Bird will be safe from all the grease and mud.

You're such a hater, you "out-hate" me and that sure is a great feet! SMH.

Nadal was OFFICIAL. Well done to him!

philosophicalarf
07-02-2010, 06:35 PM
Serving contest largely, with two key moments:

1) Murray 4-4 in the first, broken lamely.

2) That netcord the won Nadal the second set tiebreak. Evil in a slam semi.


Murray can bemoan the latter, but should wonder where his focus was for the former.

zerocool_
07-02-2010, 06:35 PM
Good for tennis, pusher lost.

dmit424
07-02-2010, 06:35 PM
Most here are saying Nadal just outplayed and dominated Murray. I didn't watch the match and only see the stats:

http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/scores/stats/day19/1602ms.html

Winning % on 1st serve: Nadal, 78% ... Murray, 78%
Winning % on 2nd serve: Nadal, 59% ... Murray, 57%
1st serve %: Nadal, 70% ... Murray, 60%
Break points won: Nadal, 3/4 ... Murray, 1/3

Interpreting these stats, it seems to me that the only reasons Nadal won is that he got his first serve in more often than did Murray and also played 2 more of his key points better.

Again, I did not watch the match, and I believe those that say that Nadal dominated... But I'm just pointing out that a few subtle differences can have a big impact. Nadal simply got his first in more often and played two key points better, and at this level, that is all that was needed to make this match a completely one-sided affair.

Filo V.
07-02-2010, 06:35 PM
murray had like maybe 10 more caes than rafa...

murray played really well I think. His best match this tournament. Rafa doesnt belong on this planet. Im glad atleast one half of fedal in the final.

Murray served really well. He's played better overall, but he had moments where he was at his A level. Rafa wasn't even at an A+ throughout the match, but when he needed to step it up, he stepped it up, and Murray couldn't contain him. Mental strength and really physical strength in terms of weight of shot is what determined this match. Rafa is just simply a better player.

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 06:35 PM
so three more sets for rafa to win now on sunday.

spec7er
07-02-2010, 06:40 PM
The big difference was most of the big points were won by Nadal. When Murray had an opening, he either missed the 1st serve, netted an attempt at a forehand drive or Nadal hits monster forehands to get the upperhand. In other words, Nadal was too clutch for Murray. It's kind of sad that Andy didn't even win one set, he had that SP on the 2nd and was up a break in the 3rd.

scoobs
07-02-2010, 06:40 PM
Oh and please spare me from idiots criticising Murray when they don't even like him but hate Rafa more and only supported Murray in the hopes he'd stop Rafa :o

andylovesaustin
07-02-2010, 06:40 PM
Congrats to Nadal, El Matador!

I had a feeling he'd take it three, but I was hoping Andy would take it to 5.

I hoping the match would be more competitive... Lower ranked players were more competitive!

Well.. on paper Rafa had the TOUGHEST draw even though you'd never know it v Murray. Got to hand it to him for.. winning the French and now he's in the Wimby final with a tough road to boot. To me, it's really not all as easy as Rafa (and Roger) make it look time and time again. :hatoff:

Congrats to Andy Murray making it to the Wimby semis. I just wish he and Nole in particular would just play up to their potential.

Interesting final ahead, for sure...

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 06:40 PM
well guys I dont think rafito dominated Murray. He was better on big points. Later on you got the sense that each time murray missed his first serve he would lose the point. Murray too dependent on his serve.

If Rafa improves his serve further and adds some pace to it like 10 mph or so, i think this guy could do a lot of damage.

andylovesaustin
07-02-2010, 06:41 PM
Most here are saying Nadal just outplayed and dominated Murray. I didn't watch the match and only see the stats:

http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/scores/stats/day19/1602ms.html

Winning % on 1st serve: Nadal, 78% ... Murray, 78%
Winning % on 2nd serve: Nadal, 59% ... Murray, 57%
1st serve %: Nadal, 70% ... Murray, 60%
Break points won: Nadal, 3/4 ... Murray, 1/3

Interpreting these stats, it seems to me that the only reasons Nadal won is that he got his first serve in more often than did Murray and also played 2 more of his key points better.

Again, I did not watch the match, and I believe those that say that Nadal dominated... But I'm just pointing out that a few subtle differences can have a big impact. Nadal simply got his first in more often and played two key points better, and at this level, that is all that was needed to make this match a completely one-sided affair.

How about unforced errors?

I looked it up.

Andy had 19 to Rafa's 13. Plus, Andy's first serve% wasn't really that good for grass. It was only 60%. Rafa had a higher percentage.

No.. Rafa didn't dominate Andy, but Andy could have played better, and that may have made a little bit of difference.

I mean, to have a chance of beating Rafa at his best, Andy would have had to play his very best.

Still not bad from Andy.

HDW
07-02-2010, 06:41 PM
Birdman doesn't stand much of a chance :(

I miss delpo.

Horatio Caine
07-02-2010, 06:41 PM
I'm not a particular fan of Muzza, but I do feel gutted for him. Federer out of the picture, but obviously it sucked that he had to play Nadal instead.

For me, the match was brilliant. That is the best version of Nadal I have ever seen (although admittedly these days I don't get to watch much tennis outside of the Slams), and if he can stay fit and healthy he might just win that elusive US Open in a couple of months time. Maybe also win the Australian Open again next year, but I guess it is easy to look too far ahead. He lost his focus for a little bit in the match (late 2nd set to mid-third set) but otherwise he was utterly brutal.

I felt that Murray played very well, which is a good sign for the near future...hopefully he won't get too down on himself and will play himself into proper contention for the US Open again. Unless Federer finds top gear again (increasingly more difficult imo), the US Open should be the most open it has been in years. Obviously he will still be vulnerable to the likes of Soderling, Berdych etc, but maybe he will find a way.

But as for today, it was Nadal's greater weight of shot that made all the difference. Sadly, Muzza's defensive tennis (whilst not particularly passive on this occasion) just isn't strong enough to stand up to such power and accuracy...and he lacked the power (also the accuracy) on the offence (of the likes of Soderling) to hit through Nadal on enough occasions. Murray's serving in the first two sets was excellent, but it was rather telling that the last four games of the match went by quickly...his 1st serve dried up, and Nadal dominated from there.

habibko
07-02-2010, 06:41 PM
Murray was one 1st serve away from takng the 2nd set when he had a set point at *6-5 in the TB, when he missed that it was NID, could have turned the match around.

TennisOnWood
07-02-2010, 06:41 PM
Birdman doesn't stand much of a chance :(

I miss delpo.

Yes.. Delpo is outstanding grass court player

NADALbULLS
07-02-2010, 06:42 PM
It was key that Nadal hit those unforced errors in the very first service game of the 3rd set. It allowed him to release the nervous energy that had built up from facing adversity in such important moments over the 1st and 2nd sets. By releasing that pression from his mind he gave himself a whole set to break back, and he achieved that break. Much better than if his pression was released at the end of the 4th set in a tie-breaker or what not.

FormerRafaFan
07-02-2010, 06:43 PM
Where are all the haters now? Especially the Swedes, they all seem to hate Rafa, but they love the cheater Soderling..

And what are the haters gonna say to the fact that he has beaten both Murray and Soderling? I rememeber a time when they complained to the lack of playing top 10 players..

I have a feeling that this thread is gonna be short, cuz they all love to hate when Nadal loses, but has nothing to say when he wins. Pathetic, really.

dmit424
07-02-2010, 06:43 PM
well guys I dont think rafito dominated Murray. He was better on big points. Later on you got the sense that each time murray missed his first serve he would lose the point. Murray too dependent on his serve.

If Rafa improves his serve further and adds some pace to it like 10 mph or so, i think this guy could do a lot of damage.

What is this, 2005?

tangerine_dream
07-02-2010, 06:43 PM
I was expecting a tougher match today. Glad Rafa got it done in straight sets. It's always nice to see Rafa's brutal one-dimensional game defeat Murray's superior guile. :hatoff:

Oh Mikey, so sorry, no Wimbledon title for you and GB this year (again). The agonizing drought continues. Too bad, so sad, coulda had. :hug:

Good luck to Rafa in the final. :bounce:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
07-02-2010, 06:43 PM
Andy loses the crucial points,nothing shame to lose to Nadal,but as much as I like him he won't win Wimby.The pressure is too huge.

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 06:44 PM
Murray served really well. He's played better overall, but he had moments where he was at his A level. Rafa wasn't even at an A+ throughout the match, but when he needed to step it up, he stepped it up, and Murray couldn't contain him. Mental strength and really physical strength in terms of weight of shot is what determined this match. Rafa is just simply a better player.

exactly. Very well put. But I think Rafa not putting in his A+ was due to the variety in Murray's game. Mixing it all up - coming in, dropshots etc etc.

born_on_clay
07-02-2010, 06:46 PM
Where are all the haters now? Especially the Swedes, they all seem to hate Rafa, but they love the cheater Soderling..

And what are the haters gonna say to the fact that he has beaten both Murray and Soderling? I rememeber a time when they complained to the lack of playing top 10 players..

I have a feeling that this thread is gonna be short, cuz they all love to hate when Nadal loses, but has nothing to say when he wins. Pathetic, really.

just lol at all the haters
Rafa once more proved he's a grat player and a truly champion

peteroger
07-02-2010, 06:46 PM
Murray is simply useless

chris whiteside
07-02-2010, 06:47 PM
You can only laugh at some of the comments - bulldozing and thumping? you couldn't have watched the match.

Nadal deserved his win but why on earth did Murray keep hitting his forehand crosscourt? - Nadal got to wait for it and left the court open for the down the line shot.

Bilbo
07-02-2010, 06:48 PM
Nadal showing the organizers that it was wrong making him the 2nd seed

Surcouf
07-02-2010, 06:48 PM
Congrats Rafa, you played a great match. Continue like that, champion!

Langers
07-02-2010, 06:49 PM
Murray very good, very good.

Nadal just amazing.

FEDERERBEAUTY
07-02-2010, 06:49 PM
Fabulous:)
Normally I like Nadal, today I love him.
Murray isn't ever winning a slam.

chris whiteside
07-02-2010, 06:49 PM
Nadal showing the organizers that it was wrong making him the 2nd seed

There's a set formula for the seeding.

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 06:50 PM
I actually am beginning to warm up to Murray after this match. He was determined, solid tennis, great effort. He could have beaten anybody else today.

AUstralian 2011 is yours champ. Go get it.

rocketassist
07-02-2010, 06:50 PM
Fabulous:)
Normally I like Nadal, today I love him.
Murray isn't ever winning a slam.

The word 'gloryhunter' springs to mind. The English :o

syc23
07-02-2010, 06:51 PM
Nadal's game was brutal and won the big points. The TB net cord was very fortunate, the 2nd set was on Murray's racquet as all he had to do was serve it out. Slight improvement in the 3rd breaking Rafa in the 3rd set but should have held serve to take it into the 4th set.

Certainly no shame to lose to the world no.1.

Filo V.
07-02-2010, 06:53 PM
exactly. Very well put. But I think Rafa not putting in his A+ was due to the variety in Murray's game. Mixing it all up - coming in, dropshots etc etc.

Yes, Murray's game definitely is the type that lowers the opponents' level. Although I don't think Murray used as much variety as he generally does. Honestly, I don't see Murray beating Nadal outside of N. American hard courts again. He just doesn't have the weight of shot on grass or clay to make an impact. He played well, he just doesn't have what it takes.

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 06:53 PM
Still disappointed no fedal final on sunday :( Rafa lessened the pain but still hurting. Cant imagine Roger not playing on the second sunday :(

UsD.AnDreS
07-02-2010, 06:54 PM
Most here are saying Nadal just outplayed and dominated Murray. I didn't watch the match and only see the stats:

http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/scores/stats/day19/1602ms.html

Winning % on 1st serve: Nadal, 78% ... Murray, 78%
Winning % on 2nd serve: Nadal, 59% ... Murray, 57%
1st serve %: Nadal, 70% ... Murray, 60%
Break points won: Nadal, 3/4 ... Murray, 1/3

Interpreting these stats, it seems to me that the only reasons Nadal won is that he got his first serve in more often than did Murray and also played 2 more of his key points better.

Again, I did not watch the match, and I believe those that say that Nadal dominated... But I'm just pointing out that a few subtle differences can have a big impact. Nadal simply got his first in more often and played two key points better, and at this level, that is all that was needed to make this match a completely one-sided affair.


While I watched match and didn't pay attention to stats :)
But I just explained the way that match impressed me. I really wanted Murray to handle the pressure and to show his best. But I didn't see him hanging on with Nadal in that match. Didn't see him as a real contender.. While Murray won rallies mainly because of single solid shots,Rafa was winning rallies comfortably dominating and he usually didn't have to make a winner to end the rally. But,as I mentioned above,it is just my opinion,the way that match made me feel.

FEDERERBEAUTY
07-02-2010, 06:54 PM
The word 'gloryhunter' springs to mind. The English :o

Nope, no gloryhunting here. I just loathe Murray and would support a stuffed tomatoe against him. And I'm not English.

Priam
07-02-2010, 06:54 PM
Federer and Nadal have secretly conspired to prevent Andy from ever winning a GS.

Seriously though I like Andy's chances at USO.

Billups85
07-02-2010, 06:54 PM
bulldozing is quite excessive. IMO, Nadal was the better player today but the match was close, decided by key points.

Jagermeister
07-02-2010, 06:55 PM
Murray's game translates to hard courts better than grass, IMO. I don't think this loss was due to any nerves or bad playing.

Vamos Rafa. But I'm nervous about Berdych!

philosophicalarf
07-02-2010, 06:55 PM
Nadal deserved his win but why on earth did Murray keep hitting his forehand crosscourt?

To be blunt: cos his forehand wasn't working today. He went up the line a fair few times early, but missed far too many of them. That's the problem with playing poorly for 5 months - not easy to switch it on in the big match.

The other problem is one that's always going to be with him on grass: he doesn't have the right timing to adapt to off bounces, nor take it early ....... which is critical to executing the game plan he uses to beat Nadal on hard. He also doesn't move as well on grass, offensively or defensively, the same issue he has on clay.

Not sure how he can ever really make that transition, like a number of other hard courters. The speed of the court means he's not as completely handicapped as he is on clay, but he'll likely never be as good on grass as on Decoturf, or even Plexi/Miami/IW.

kindling
07-02-2010, 06:55 PM
Bummer for Murray. Nadal played well. Just not really interested in him anymore. I don't know if Nadal's haters are really hateful, just bored with him. Just like the way it was when Fed was so dominant, it got boring and tiresome. That and Nadal's constant celebrations over every point are a little too much. Hope Berdych can make history on Sunday.

NADALbULLS
07-02-2010, 06:56 PM
Nadal showing the organizers that it was wrong making him the 2nd seed

Truer words have never been spoken :p

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 06:56 PM
Yes, Murray's game definitely is the type that lowers the opponents' level. Although I don't think Murray used as much variety as he generally does. Honestly, I don't see Murray beating Nadal outside of N. American hard courts again. He just doesn't have the weight of shot on grass or clay to make an impact. He played well, he just doesn't have what it takes.

i agree he cant beat Rafa on clay. But i think he has a chance on grass for sure. Todays match was close man. If Murray wins the tie-break which was so close (he had a set point) this match would have been different. Its just demoralizing to go down two sets to love to Rafael Nadal. Too exhausting to play rafa and I think Andy's spirits were broken losing the second set and then with that his serve lett him too in the third set for rafa to go for the kill.

rocketassist
07-02-2010, 06:57 PM
To be blunt: cos his forehand wasn't working today. He went up the line a fair few times early, but missed far too many of them. That's the problem with playing poorly for 5 months - not easy to switch it on in the big match.


The other problem is one that's always going to be with him on grass: he doesn't have the right timing to adapt to off bounces, nor take it early ....... which is critical to executing the same game plan he uses to beat Nadal on hard. Not sure how he can ever really make that transition, like a number of other hard courters.

+1

M4RC
07-02-2010, 06:57 PM
This legend is merciless with his hatas and rivals. Murray is his pigeon afterall.

You are the British hope, SW19 Centre Court, your crowd + Beckham and his little brat; you defeated the beast in the last 2 slams you encountered and then... packed in 3, MUZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/judy-murray-415x582.jpg

:haha:

dmit424
07-02-2010, 06:58 PM
While I watched match and didn't pay attention to stats :)
But I just explained the way that match impressed me. I really wanted Murray to handle the pressure and to show his best. But I didn't see him hanging on with Nadal in that match. Didn't see him as a real contender.. While Murray won rallies mainly because of single solid shots,Rafa was winning rallies comfortably dominating and he usually didn't have to make a winner to end the rally. But,as I mentioned above,it is just my opinion,the way that match made me feel.

I believe you. I wasn't trying to take anything away from Nadal. I mean, every time there was a key point, he won them, set after set after set. Combine that with getting his first set more in, and thus winning more points in general, yes, it was a dominating performance.

I guess another way to put it is that while the stats seem to show it was close, at this highest level of tennis, that slight advantage-- of being able to win the big points more often, three sets in a row-- is what separates the great ones from the elite ones. Nadal= great, Murray= elite.

Noleta
07-02-2010, 06:59 PM
I miss delpo.

What could he possibly do on grass?:scratch:

solowyn
07-02-2010, 06:59 PM
Hug it out, everyone. Well done Rafa.

http://www.wimbledon.org/images/pics/large/b_11_nadal_41_prosport_s_wake.jpg

A_Skywalker
07-02-2010, 06:59 PM
Great win for Nadal, not Berdych, really tough matchup :scared:

philosophicalarf
07-02-2010, 07:00 PM
What could he possibly do on grass?:scratch:

Slip, slide, do a good impression of Bambi on ice, then lose to the first flat hitter he meets.

heya
07-02-2010, 07:00 PM
Murray's crashing down the rankings.
Before the match, he pompously skipped on court
like he could serve & volley.
His backhand barely keeps him in a rally. :spit::

dmit424
07-02-2010, 07:01 PM
I have no idea what will happen tomorrow. But he will win in 4 sets.

Chair Umpire
07-02-2010, 07:03 PM
This legend is merciless with his hatas and rivals. Murray is his pigeon afterall.

You are the British hope, SW19 Centre Court, your crowd + Beckham and his little brat; you defeated the beast in the last 2 slams you encountered and then... packed in 3, MUZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/judy-murray-415x582.jpg

:haha:

There was no need for this. Murray and the Wimbledon crowd were class all through the match.

danieln1
07-02-2010, 07:04 PM
At 4-2 for Murray I went to the shower, and then when I came back, they were shaking hands, I was "WTF??????"

I was sure Murray would win that third set at least... Berdych will save this tournament on sunday

allpro
07-02-2010, 07:04 PM
Hug it out, everyone. Well done Rafa.

http://www.wimbledon.org/images/pics/large/b_11_nadal_41_prosport_s_wake.jpg

yes....classy in victory, classy in defeat.

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/132/rafamurray.jpg

:worship: a gentle gladiator and a humble champion for the ages :worship:

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 07:06 PM
For Murray fans - i think your guy has found his form right in time for the hardcourt season. DIdnt care too much about Murray earlier but Im going to follow him a little more closely now. I love the variety in his game. But he doesnt play like this with other people. He keeps the variety for rafa exclusively it seems.

born_on_clay
07-02-2010, 07:06 PM
I have no idea what will happen tomorrow. But he will win in 4 sets.

tomorrow they will both rest I suppose ;)

Sillyrabbit
07-02-2010, 07:06 PM
I have no idea what will happen tomorrow. But he will win in 4 sets.

Serena is a MAN now? Kidding, but the final is Sunday actually.

kooties
07-02-2010, 07:08 PM
would've been a travesty for Murray to win Wimbledon though.

Pick yourself up for the USO, THAT is your slam!

angry1
07-02-2010, 07:08 PM
The scoreline is acceptable,but the gap in mental ability was disappointing.

This was still a good way to lead into the USO.

Langers
07-02-2010, 07:08 PM
Nadal's game was brutal and won the big points. The TB net cord was very fortunate, the 2nd set was on Murray's racquet as all he had to do was serve it out. Slight improvement in the 3rd breaking Rafa in the 3rd set but should have held serve to take it into the 4th set.

Certainly no shame to lose to the world no.1.
Was a winner anyway...

dmit424
07-02-2010, 07:08 PM
Oops! So, obviously, I really have no idea what will happen tomorrow! :)

Start da Game
07-02-2010, 07:10 PM
murray was bulldozed, meaning he was just overpowered by the heaviness in the groundies and ruthlessness of nadal.......it's easy to say murray could have done this, murray would have doe that.......

at no point in the match did murray string together solid ground strokes and started to take it to nadal.......his forehand is one of the most useless groundstrokes of modern day tennis.......

whenever nadal had the ascendancy in the rally, he won almost every point.......murray's serve is what kept him going for the 3 sets.......nadal won all the clutch points, match was far from being close........

murray deserved to lose........i think his fans are overreacting somewhat like if murray deserves to win wimbledon more than nadal........henman was twice better than him on grass and just ran into the greatest grasscourter ever, sampras in couple of semifinals........

i am not buying this "let's console andy, he deserves a slam" bullshit or "i feel for andy" bullshit.......it's disrespecting nadal and his grasscourt prowess, as if this passive pusher had a clear route to the title once that fragile swiss lost in the quarters.......

you can beat fed, you can beat djokovic, but you cannot beat will, unrelenting will.......that's nadal for you.......

rocketassist
07-02-2010, 07:10 PM
murray was bulldozed, meaning he was just overpowered by the heaviness in the groundies and ruthlessness of nadal.......it's easy to say murray could have done this, murray would have doe that.......

at no point in the match did murray string together solid ground strokes and started to take it to nadal.......his forehand is one of the most useless groundstrokes of modern day tennis.......

whenever nadal had the ascendancy in the rally, he won almost every point.......murray's serve is what kept him going for the 3 sets.......nadal won all the clutch points, match was far from being close........

murray deserved to lose........i think his fans are overreacting somewhat like if murray deserves to win wimbledon more than nadal........henman was twice better than him on grass and just ran into the greatest grasscourter ever, sampras in couple of semifinals........

i am not buying this "let's console andy, he deserves a slam" bullshit or "i feel for andy" bullshit.......it's disrespecting nadal and his grasscourt prowess, as if this passive pusher had a clear route to the title once that fragile swiss lost in the quarters.......

you can beat fed, you can beat djokovic, but you cannot beat will, unrelenting will.......that's nadal for you.......

Gracious in victory.

siddy
07-02-2010, 07:11 PM
Congratulations Rafa! Should be an interesting final though it would take a herculean effort from Berdych to win.

kafemotor
07-02-2010, 07:12 PM
Most here are saying Nadal just outplayed and dominated Murray. I didn't watch the match and only see the stats:

http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/scores/stats/day19/1602ms.html

Winning % on 1st serve: Nadal, 78% ... Murray, 78%
Winning % on 2nd serve: Nadal, 59% ... Murray, 57%
1st serve %: Nadal, 70% ... Murray, 60%
Break points won: Nadal, 3/4 ... Murray, 1/3

Interpreting these stats, it seems to me that the only reasons Nadal won is that he got his first serve in more often than did Murray and also played 2 more of his key points better.

Again, I did not watch the match, and I believe those that say that Nadal dominated... But I'm just pointing out that a few subtle differences can have a big impact. Nadal simply got his first in more often and played two key points better, and at this level, that is all that was needed to make this match a completely one-sided affair.

You have to break down the stats into sets, then you know the difference. Murray was serving big in two sets, but way down in the last. But, just check it out.

Duncan
07-02-2010, 07:12 PM
Rafa was simply awesome today. Murray didn't do much wrong for me, impressive run to another GS semi and now he can rest up before he turns his attention to his favourite surface.

Nadal should win the final now.

solowyn
07-02-2010, 07:13 PM
Gracious in victory.
:lol:

scarecrows
07-02-2010, 07:14 PM
wow, cant believe people think Murray played a great match here
apart from the serve which worked fine (although Nadal is becoming a worse returner somehow). It was the worst tactic anyone could choose to play against Nadal. I've seen Starace play against Nadal and he was trying a more attacking approach to the game. Murray played much better 3-4 years ago at AO when he lost in 5. Few years latter and he still hasnt realized that if you dont attack Nadal at every opportunity you are toast

Nadal was great on big points but that had to be expected. But I dont think he was anywhere near his best, IMO he was much better in the last 3 sets against Soderling. Only in the first set he was untouchable, then he started making a lot of UEs

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 07:15 PM
murray was bulldozed, meaning he was just overpowered by the heaviness in the groundies and ruthlessness of nadal.......it's easy to say murray could have done this, murray would have doe that.......

at no point in the match did murray string together solid ground strokes and started to take it to nadal.......his forehand is one of the most useless groundstrokes of modern day tennis.......

whenever nadal had the ascendancy in the rally, he won almost every point.......murray's serve is what kept him going for the 3 sets.......nadal won all the clutch points, match was far from being close........

murray deserved to lose........i think his fans are overreacting somewhat like if murray deserves to win wimbledon more than nadal........henman was twice better than him on grass and just ran into the greatest grasscourter ever, sampras in couple of semifinals........

i am not buying this "let's console andy, he deserves a slam" bullshit or "i feel for andy" bullshit.......it's disrespecting nadal and his grasscourt prowess, as if this passive pusher had a clear route to the title once that fragile swiss lost in the quarters.......

you can beat fed, you can beat djokovic, but you cannot beat will, unrelenting will.......that's nadal for you.......

Come on dude. You are being too harsh here. Enjoy Rafito's win. Murray was tough. Much tougher than I expected. He was holding his own in a rally with Rafa in the first two sets. Nadal himself told BBC after the match " I told Andy sorry ; he is a very nice person and deserves to win a slam soon. I am sure he will win one. Today there was too much pressure on him etc etc".

And watch the hug rafa gave him at the end of the match. Rafa usually does not initiate hugs unless its a long closely fought 5 setter.

If your hero is like that why are you talking like this? :shrug:

dmit424
07-02-2010, 07:15 PM
murray was bulldozed, meaning he was just overpowered by the heaviness in the groundies and ruthlessness of nadal.......it's easy to say murray could have done this, murray would have doe that.......

at no point in the match did murray string together solid ground strokes and started to take it to nadal.......his forehand is one of the most useless groundstrokes of modern day tennis.......

whenever nadal had the ascendancy in the rally, he won almost every point.......murray's serve is what kept him going for the 3 sets.......nadal won all the clutch points, match was far from being close........

murray deserved to lose........i think his fans are overreacting somewhat like if murray deserves to win wimbledon more than nadal........henman was twice better than him on grass and just ran into the greatest grasscourter ever, sampras in couple of semifinals........

i am not buying this "let's console andy, he deserves a slam" bullshit or "i feel for andy" bullshit.......it's disrespecting nadal and his grasscourt prowess, as if this passive pusher had a clear route to the title once that fragile swiss lost in the quarters.......

you can beat fed, you can beat djokovic, but you cannot beat will, unrelenting will.......that's nadal for you.......

Dude, people can feel sorry for Murray if they want. Is that morally wrong or something? And Nadal is a great player with a great will, but he has been beaten before and will be beaten again. Tennis is about having a combination of all kinds of factors, and Nadal has a lot of them, but he's not a miracle of God.

rocketassist
07-02-2010, 07:16 PM
wow, cant believe people think Murray played a great match here
apart from the serve which worked fine (although Nadal is becoming a worse returner somehow). It was the worst tactic anyone could choose to play against Nadal. I've seen Starace play against Nadal and he was trying a more attacking approach to the game. Murray played much better 3-4 years ago at AO when he lost in 5. Few years latter and he still hasnt realized that if you dont attack Nadal at every opportunity you are toast

Nadal was great on big points but that had to be expected. But I dont think he was anywhere near his best, IMO he was much better in the last 3 sets against Soderling. Only in the first set he was untouchable, then he started making a lot of UEs

TBH, I felt he was attacking, but he wasn't good enough to execute it properly, especially that forehand putaway :( On grass he doesn't time his big strikes as well as on hard.

FEDERERBEAUTY
07-02-2010, 07:16 PM
Nobody wins a slam through 'deserving' it. You have to win it.
It's not as if Murray's been around years and come within a whisker of winning numerous times. He's only made 2 finals and was comprehensively shat upon each time. End of story.

RagingLamb
07-02-2010, 07:17 PM
Murray played well, it was a hiccup that cost him the first set, and he had set points on his serve in the second.

Nadal was just incredible today. There's not much anyone can do against that.

scarecrows
07-02-2010, 07:18 PM
TBH, I felt he was attacking, but he wasn't good enough to execute it properly, especially that forehand putaway :( On grass he doesn't time his big strikes as well as on hard.

he needed to use that since the beginning
then when he became clueless he tried to attack more on FH DTL but the feeling wasnt there and was spraying errors everywhere

dmit424
07-02-2010, 07:18 PM
Postgame:

Question to Nadal: You seemed to express a little bit of sorrow for Murray, what with all the pressure he faces here and all. Can you elaborate a little bit on this?

Nadal: Well, he always face pressure here, I think, and I think pressure is always difficult, no? But I think I won, and if we talk about his pressure, it take away from my win, no? I don't really but with all this pressure, I think I play better and he deserve to lose, no?

(This is not real)

Merton
07-02-2010, 07:19 PM
Enjoyable match for a neutral to watch, Rafa better on the critical points in the first 2 sets. Murray served very well, yet he lost both sets. Congrats to Rafa for a 4th Wimbledon final.

tennisace28
07-02-2010, 07:23 PM
It was key that Nadal hit those unforced errors in the very first service game of the 3rd set. It allowed him to release the nervous energy that had built up from facing adversity in such important moments over the 1st and 2nd sets. By releasing that pression from his mind he gave himself a whole set to break back, and he achieved that break. Much better than if his pression was released at the end of the 4th set in a tie-breaker or what not.

I COULDNT AGREE MORE WITH THIS!! that was exactly what i was thinking when rafa got broken early in the third....

@Sweet Cleopatra
07-02-2010, 07:23 PM
henman was twice better than him on grass and just ran into the greatest grasscourter ever, sampras in couple of semifinals........



Henman deserved to win Wimbledon, I saw matches of him in tennis channel and it is so sad he didn't :sad:

Ouragan
07-02-2010, 07:24 PM
No doubt the Scot will win this gig one day, though.

Priam
07-02-2010, 07:25 PM
Good-spirited competition. One of the best 3-setters I've ever seen.

From the presser:

Q. What did Rafael say to you after the match?

ANDY MURRAY: He said, Bad luck. I just said, Good luck for the rest of the tournament. You know, that was it.

But, you know, I've said it for a few years. I love watching him play. He's my favorite player to watch. That's why I enjoy playing him so much. So I hope he wins.

Sunset of Age
07-02-2010, 07:25 PM
Enjoyable, entertaining match to watch! :yeah:
Rafa was just immaculate today. Excellent at clutch play, well, apart from a DF here and there and some other bloopers (which #'s were in no way comparable to some other player's #'s of bloopers I've seen in this tournament) - just GREAT. Congrats to your 4rth Wimbledon final in a row, Rafa! :worship: :hatoff:

Muzza did put up a good fight imho. Lost it on the big points, and very much blew his chances in that 2nd set TB. After that, it was one way traffic, even if he did manage to get an unexpected early break in the 3rd set, I had no doubts Rafa would break back and take it. Have to give it to Murray though, regarding the pressure on him and all that, he never 'folded like a cheap tent' or anything the like, but kept on giving it his best shot - which just wasn't enough today.
:hug: Murray, better luck next year. I'm sure your time will come!

Bilbo
07-02-2010, 07:27 PM
http://www.takefiveaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Bulldozer-Side.jpg

brent-o
07-02-2010, 07:27 PM
Stunning performance by Rafa today. I'm so glad he's back to his best. You know, it's amazing to think that in 2008, we were all lauding his incredible RG-Wimbly achievement which hasn't been done since Borg. Who would have thought Roger would equal it the next year, and Rafa would have a chance to nearly do it again? Incredible.

M4RC
07-02-2010, 07:33 PM
Lucky cheating in that TB. Murray just got covered in grease and bacon drippings today. He couldn't recover. This is so sad that this continues.

It is okay because Pig can't fly so the Bird will be safe from all the grease and mud.

:baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby: :baby:

Hola Serenidad :bigwave: :haha:

Start da Game
07-02-2010, 07:34 PM
@the murray pity society

you don't deserve to win if you don't have the mind of a champion.......simple as that.......rodclown had wimbledon on his racket with 4 straight set points last year to go up 2-0 sets.......why did he lose? he was not mentally strong enough to control that adrenaline and deliver the knock out punch.......

i feel pity for leander paes for having 10 times better volleying skills than this murray but was still unable to make it beyond second round at wimbledon in the 90s.......who will care me if i say that?

just because the whole british press made a story of how murray was going to be the next wimbledon winner, that we should all feel for him while he keeps choking away slam after slam? his best shot at slams were the USO open final 08 which was snatched away by the most biased organizers and the AO final 10 where he played suicidal tennis with a non-working brain.......

in this tournament he did not even make the final for us to feel so bad about it......even if he beat rafa today, berdych would have fancied his chances against him much more than he does against rafa now........so in a way it's good that he lost in the semis than in a final and agonize his fans even more.......

3 keys to success for murray.......

1) develop that belief first.......
2) develop a good forehand ffs......
3) get back to his old way of doing things tactfully, than being just a rabbit behind the baseline.......

Andi-M
07-02-2010, 07:35 PM
Nadal was awesome today when it mattered.

Murray poor guy has had one too many heartbreaking losses but tennis is a continum you just gotta keep going. You can visibly see with slam that passes Murrays faith in himself diminshes a little but more. But one day Im sure his time will come. However its not all fate and destiny related however Murray did have things in his control at certain points today but just failed to deliver his FH was 3rd rate today and his 1st serve didnt show up on a couple of really important occassions. I suppose he could learn from it but he made the same mistakes before several times actually but in particular like the AO final. i.e getting early break in the 3rd than giftwrapping the break right back when Nadal put some pressure on him.

Clydey
07-02-2010, 07:36 PM
@the murray pity society

you don't deserve to win if you don't have the mind of a champion.......simple as that.......rodclown had wimbledon on his racket with 4 straight set points last year to go up 2-0 sets.......why did he lose? he was not mentally strong enough to control that adrenaline and deliver the knock out punch.......

i feel pity for leander paes for having 10 times better volleying skills than this murray but was still unable to make it beyond second round at wimbledon in the 90s.......who will care me if i say that?

just because the whole british press made a story of how murray was going to be the next wimbledon winner, that we should all feel for him while he keeps choking away slam after slam? his best shot at slams were the USO open final 08 which was snatched away by the most biased organizers and the AO final 10 where he played suicidal tennis with a non-working brain.......

in this tournament he did not even make the final for us to feel so bad about it......even if he beat rafa today, berdych would have fancied his chances against him much more than he does against rafa now........so in a way it's good that he lost in the semis than in a final and agonize his fans even more.......

3 keys to success for murray.......

1) develop that belief first.......
2) develop a good forehand ffs......
3) get back to his old way of doing things tactfully, than being just a rabbit behind the baseline.......

Campaigning for ACC?

allpro
07-02-2010, 07:40 PM
Good-spirited competition. One of the best 3-setters I've ever seen.

From the presser:

Q. What did Rafael say to you after the match?

ANDY MURRAY: He said, Bad luck. I just said, Good luck for the rest of the tournament. You know, that was it.

But, you know, I've said it for a few years. I love watching him play. He's my favorite player to watch. That's why I enjoy playing him so much. So I hope he wins.

classy http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss7/highdudester/congrats.gif

M4RC
07-02-2010, 07:41 PM
Like I said Nadal is virtually unplayable on grass and beating him here is next to impossible. Prime Federer stopped him twice before Nadal had hit his prime.

Tough luck Andy, you just got outplayed on the big points by a monster.

Sir, you are one of the greatest users on this boards. What a great poster and tennis fan.

:worship:

Byrd
07-02-2010, 07:44 PM
Start The Game, retarded as usual with his Nadull love. Like Clydey said, it was decided on a number of points. Murray had his chance in the 2nd, and should of wrapped up the 3rd, forehand was horrible.

@Sweet Cleopatra
07-02-2010, 07:49 PM
Rafa http://smiles.mmuz.com/data/15/a6rbc_33.gif

http://smiles.mmuz.com/data/15/a6rb_137.gif http://smiles.mmuz.com/data/15/a6rb_137.gif http://smiles.mmuz.com/data/15/a6rb_137.gif http://smiles.mmuz.com/data/15/a6rb_137.gif

gorgo1986
07-02-2010, 07:51 PM
Good to see some people giving credit to Rafa and Andy for their match.

delpiero7
07-02-2010, 07:55 PM
Well played Rafa on reaching another Wimbledon final. Fairly good performance I thought, with a few exceptions here and there. Most noticeably Murray not having to do anything to get the break at the start of the 3rd set (well, apart from that one service return winner).

Hoping for a good final on Sunday!

The "pusher" hit 6 more winners than Nadal today.

True. But I'm sure at one point Murray had hit 13 aces to Nadal's 1. Then I think Nadal hit a few more when Murray folded like a cheap tent after being broken back in the 3rd.

People saying Nadal was brilliant? He was clutch, but still below his best. Room for improvement against Tomas.

I agree with this. There was a bad patch through half of the 2nd set where he was hitting the ball long almost every other point. Can't afford to be doing this in the final against a red-hot Berdych.

Where are all the haters now? Especially the Swedes, they all seem to hate Rafa, but they love the cheater Soderling..

And what are the haters gonna say to the fact that he has beaten both Murray and Soderling? I rememeber a time when they complained to the lack of playing top 10 players..

I have a feeling that this thread is gonna be short, cuz they all love to hate when Nadal loses, but has nothing to say when he wins. Pathetic, really.

There is no response. They'll come out of the woodwork on Sunday if Nadal loses in the final, but even so he had pretty much crushed what they have been thriving off over the past few months, such as no victories over top 10 players off clay and not being able to beat Soderling or Murray on a surface other than clay.

I actually am beginning to warm up to Murray after this match. He was determined, solid tennis, great effort. He could have beaten anybody else today.

AUstralian 2011 is yours champ. Go get it.

Nice jinx ;)

AO '11 is Murray's in the same way that AO '09, Wimbledon '09 and AO '10 were, he'll fail against the cream of the crop.

M4RC
07-02-2010, 07:56 PM
I need to see Murray's SP in the 2nd RIGHT NOW. Nadal's play there was just unreal, one of the clutchest points ever played.

Great match. Congrats to both for the fight.

Tom_Bombadil
07-02-2010, 07:57 PM
I don't think it was a great tennis match from Rafa, but it surely was impressive at the important points.

BTW, I want to say I'm sorry for Andy cause he's a player I really like and I'm supporting him in any tournament if Rafa is out till he wins his deserved major.

EDIT: british public the most educated and best tennis public in the world, period.

spanish_army
07-02-2010, 08:00 PM
Great Rafa, plaease get the title one more time.

Congrats to Andy & his bench, a great player who will win a GS soon. Above all, 2 big gentlemen.

dmit424
07-02-2010, 08:02 PM
@the murray pity society

you don't deserve to win if you don't have the mind of a champion.......simple as that.......rodclown had wimbledon on his racket with 4 straight set points last year to go up 2-0 sets.......why did he lose? he was not mentally strong enough to control that adrenaline and deliver the knock out punch.......

i feel pity for leander paes for having 10 times better volleying skills than this murray but was still unable to make it beyond second round at wimbledon in the 90s.......who will care me if i say that?

just because the whole british press made a story of how murray was going to be the next wimbledon winner, that we should all feel for him while he keeps choking away slam after slam? his best shot at slams were the USO open final 08 which was snatched away by the most biased organizers and the AO final 10 where he played suicidal tennis with a non-working brain.......

in this tournament he did not even make the final for us to feel so bad about it......even if he beat rafa today, berdych would have fancied his chances against him much more than he does against rafa now........so in a way it's good that he lost in the semis than in a final and agonize his fans even more.......

3 keys to success for murray.......

1) develop that belief first.......
2) develop a good forehand ffs......
3) get back to his old way of doing things tactfully, than being just a rabbit behind the baseline.......

I was in the Murray pity society. But after reading your posts, you have truly convinced me. So now...

I am now in the Start da Game pity society!

allpro
07-02-2010, 08:04 PM
I don't think it was a great tennis match from Rafa, but it surely was impressive at the important points.

BTW, I want to say I'm sorry for Andy cause he's a player I really like and I'm supporting him in any tournament if Rafa is out till he wins his deserved major.

EDIT: british public the most educated and best tennis public in the world, period.

couldn't agree more. they're the anti-french.

wimbledon >>>> rg. always and forever.

The Magician
07-02-2010, 08:06 PM
Awful from Murray. He runs around his backhand all the time even though his forehand is a huge joke. Nadal can win every important point by making Murray come in on the fh side, knowing it will go cross-court. 2nd serve is just as bad as ever, and no positive energy or fighting spirit from Mugray. Nadull once again gifted a final after playing multiple chokers this tournament, and everyone knows Bird Brain will be the biggest choker of all :o

Commander Data
07-02-2010, 08:06 PM
Not good enough Murray.

Nadal is almost as hard to beat in Wimbledon a sprime Federer I think. -> He will win the final.

delpiero7
07-02-2010, 08:09 PM
Awful from Murray. He runs around his backhand all the time even though his forehand is a huge joke. Nadal can win every important point by making Murray come in on the fh side, knowing it will go cross-court. 2nd serve is just as bad as ever, and no positive energy or fighting spirit from Mugray. Nadull once again gifted a final after playing multiple chokers this tournament, and everyone knows Bird Brain will be the biggest choker of all :o

Can't see any bitterness in this post at all. :angel:

The Magician
07-02-2010, 08:17 PM
Can't see any bitterness in this post at all. :angel:

Go back into your hole until Del Potro comes back :wavey: Bet he doesn't play well and all of you hanger ons start falling off the bandwagon though :angel:

Tutu
07-02-2010, 08:20 PM
Rafa was in 3rd gear out there. :shrug: He just turned it up whenever it got tight/he went down in a set. Played the big points so well.

Murray just isn't good enough. The forehand is just laughable and for all the talk about his outstanding ROS, his strength in that area is getting a lot of balls back in court rather than being aggressive/proactive on the return. Unlike all the ballbashers and players just coming back from injury he faced earlier on in this tournament, Rafael has no problem with playing a couple more extra balls in a rally.

And his shot selection was pathetic. Again, just because he has variety in his strokes people want to act like he's a master tactician, but it couldn't be further away from the truth.

I'm not even going to gloat, but I said it before. :shrug: I'm glad more people are seeing the light now.

Tutu
07-02-2010, 08:24 PM
And though it shouldn't really, this will give Rafa a huge confidence boost. Hopefully he will find his top form soon.

l_mac
07-02-2010, 08:25 PM
Where are all the haters now? Especially the Swedes, they all seem to hate Rafa, but they love the cheater Soderling..

And what are the haters gonna say to the fact that he has beaten both Murray and Soderling? I rememeber a time when they complained to the lack of playing top 10 players..

I have a feeling that this thread is gonna be short, cuz they all love to hate when Nadal loses, but has nothing to say when he wins. Pathetic, really.
:lol:

They'll be back if he loses the final. In some style.

They have to rest up for the next hardcourt season. Clay/grass are traditionally slim pickings for the haters. Last year was like a bonus for them.

Manequin75
07-02-2010, 08:27 PM
From Rafa's presser -

Q. How well aware are you that Andy's such a big fan of yours? He kept talking about you're his favorite player to watch.

RAFAEL NADAL: Well, just can say thanks. He don't need to admire a lot of things of me because he's too good to admire me.

gorgo1986
07-02-2010, 08:30 PM
:lol:

They'll be back if he loses the final. In some style.

They have to rest up for the next hardcourt season. Clay/grass are traditionally slim pickings for the haters. Last year was like a bonus for them.


:bowdown::haha::haha: Too True

heya
07-02-2010, 08:30 PM
you don't deserve to win if you don't have the mind of a champion.......simple as that.......rodclown had wimbledon on his racket with 4 straight set points last year to go up 2-0 sets.......why did he lose? he was not mentally strong enough to control that adrenaline and deliver the knock out punch.......
Roddick would've been on TV shows like he was a super celebrity if he had the Wimbledon title.
He got what he wanted; a slow, painful, pitiful death of his so-called career.
A month before, he wished for Federer to win French Open & many more Slams...
because he thought he knew how Federer felt (Roddick was supposedly respected as a Grand Slam winner too, he claimed....). I've never read such a stupid bullshit twitter.

Jills
07-02-2010, 08:33 PM
Totally predictable. Murray doesn't seem to be able to beat certain players in slams.

Murray has beaten Rafa twice in slams.

allpro
07-02-2010, 08:34 PM
(Roddick was supposedly respected as a Grand Slam winner too, he claimed....). I've never read such a stupid bullshit twitter.

all his tweets are clownish.

Everko
07-02-2010, 08:38 PM
What a cmapion this Nadal is. Everyone in the stands outside of his people wantes the Brit man to win. But Nadal told them that they would have to wait for a british champ. Mental iron

Aenea
07-02-2010, 08:42 PM
:woohoo: :woohoo:

I am so happy for Rafa. After those dreadfull rnd2 and rnd3 matches I almost lost hope he'll do well at SW19 but he proved me wrong :D and I am really very happy for that.
Good luck in the finals, Rafa! Reclaim Wimbledon!

Andy :hug: do not despair. Your time will come... sooner or later.

Jills
07-02-2010, 08:50 PM
Bummer for Murray. Nadal played well. Just not really interested in him anymore. I don't know if Nadal's haters are really hateful, just bored with him. Just like the way it was when Fed was so dominant, it got boring and tiresome. That and Nadal's constant celebrations over every point are a little too much. Hope Berdych can make history on Sunday.

Agree with everything. Domination is starting to bore me to death. I don't dislike Rafa as a person, just want someone else to win. 3 Masters and a Slam in the last few months is enough. Go Tomas!

The Magician
07-02-2010, 08:52 PM
Nadull celebrating like he already won Wimbledon after he was gifted the match by Murray's poor errors :haha: And people say Fed is arrogant, this guy thinks he already won :rolleyes:

l_mac
07-02-2010, 08:52 PM
Bummer for Murray. Nadal played well. Just not really interested in him anymore. I don't know if Nadal's haters are really hateful, just bored with him. Just like the way it was when Fed was so dominant, it got boring and tiresome.

:lol:

When did you join?

NADALbULLS
07-02-2010, 08:55 PM
Nadull celebrating like he already won Wimbledon after he was gifted the match by Murray's poor errors :haha: And people say Fed is arrogant, this guy thinks he already won :rolleyes:

At least he doesn't spit at people. btw he's right to think he's won, Berdych doesn't have the ability to win that is for sure.

Geo
07-02-2010, 08:57 PM
Murray is never going to win a slam :spit: :haha: he just gets dominated in either the semi or final :shrug:

NADALbULLS
07-02-2010, 08:59 PM
Murray will always have a good shot at the USO and AO depending on who he has to play in the semis/final.

delpiero7
07-02-2010, 08:59 PM
Go back into your hole until Del Potro comes back :wavey: Bet he doesn't play well and all of you hanger ons start falling off the bandwagon though :angel:

LOL you're one to talk about bandwagoning. You spend more time on here posting bilge about Nadal than posting anything constructive about any of the players that you like.

NADALbULLS
07-02-2010, 09:00 PM
NADAL is going to be massively fired up vs Berdych, he can really smell the blood now, you know he's going to leave nothing to chance and murder Berdych in all kinds of ways.

allpro
07-02-2010, 09:01 PM
Nadull celebrating like he already won Wimbledon after he was gifted the match by Murray's poor errors :haha: And people say Fed is arrogant, this guy thinks he already won :rolleyes:

http://www.uzoj.com/emoticons-smilies/3d%20animated%20and%20big%20emoticons%20and%20smil ies/Large%20JvP%20pack/emot175.gif

manadrainer
07-02-2010, 09:02 PM
It's tough to take... but Rafa will destroy Berdych in 3 easy sets. 4 if Berdych is lucky. Roger where are you? :sad:

Jills
07-02-2010, 09:04 PM
I'm not a fan of either player, really, but this was no bulldoze. Delusional people around here.

Until late in the second set, Murray was leading in almost every statistic, from first serve %, to first and second serve pts won, receiving points won, more aces and winners, less UFEs. Only thing Rafa was better in was bp conversion. He broke Murray once in the first 2 sets and Murray had a bp chance as well, but he didn't convert it.

One or two points made the difference in this match, that's all.

Obviously Rafa is the huge fave to win on Sunday, but he better return Tomas' serve better than he did Murray's if he wants to win easily.

NADALbULLS
07-02-2010, 09:05 PM
It was a mental bulldozing, Nadal made a fool of Murray on the bigpoints, but physically it was very close no doubt.

Mateya
07-02-2010, 09:20 PM
Watched most of it.

Amazing Rafzilla :spit: Cracking backhands and his standard forehands with great placement. Agressive as hell when he got the slightest chance. Served above his average as well.
However, Muzza was far from his best - in grand slam (semi)final again.

Calling Nadal a moonballer would be just retarded at the moment. :worship:

A big :hug: for Muzza. You will win a GS one day, you deserve it.

Veronique
07-02-2010, 09:21 PM
Well done Rafa! Now I'll go have fun reading the Berdych/Nadal poll thread.

ossie
07-02-2010, 09:55 PM
this match was way closer than the scoreline suggests murray outplayed rafa here and there but rafa won the important points. props to them both for an incredible match

oz_boz
07-02-2010, 09:56 PM
Bulldozes is stretching it more than a bit :lol: but Murray still has a lot to prove. Here, like in the finals vs Fed and ast years SF vs Roddick, he just doesn't seem to believe in himself enough.

Great match by Rafa though, clutch on big points is what matters in a tight matchup and he gave nothing away. I think the final will actually be easier for him. As long as someone younger does not step up on grass, Rafa will definitely pick up a couple more Wim titles - guys who can match him on hc like DelPo, Djokovic, Söderling and Murray do not handle this surface well enough (Murray ok but he just doesnt have it in him yet it seems).

sammy01
07-02-2010, 10:05 PM
nadal stepped it up on the big moments murray either tried to and made mistakes or let nadal take the upper hand. thats why rafa has 7 slams and murray has 0. it was very tight and competitive for the most part of all 3 sets.

Hingisova
07-02-2010, 10:21 PM
Very close excellent competitive match the difference Murray made a couple of stupid shots and Nadal made the clever ones when it counted...can't believe Murray couldn't hold his game lead in the 3rd set ahead 4-2 and cruising...but thats when champions get the needed points to overcome a losing set..its a mind game as well as physical. Take a bow for this one Rafa!:worship:

Hingisova:wavey:

rtgy
07-02-2010, 10:52 PM
Andy:hug:

CescAndyKimi
07-02-2010, 10:55 PM
Murray got cursed by Federers shanking forehand curse.

Halba
07-02-2010, 11:26 PM
Murray got cursed by Federers shanking forehand curse.

murray FH exposed in important points

nadal served very well - improvement in game here

grass suits rafa, we all know this

murray was very good serve 1st two sets, serve % dropped in the 3rd.

FairWeatherFan
07-02-2010, 11:30 PM
The Accidental Champion reaches yet another undeserved Wimbledon final. Yet another dagger in tennis' heart.

Sapeod
07-02-2010, 11:36 PM
Murray was actually quite bad, especially on the forehand side. Must say Nadal was looking very good (much better than his other matches). Hope Berdych can beat him though, don't want Nadal winning another Wimbledon :o He should have a better chance than Murray, seeing as he is very powerful of both sides.

Murray far from his best, rest up and get ready for the US hardcourt season champ! :yeah:

See you in the final Nadal.

Topspin Forehand
07-02-2010, 11:40 PM
The Accidental Champion reaches yet another undeserved Wimbledon final. Yet another dagger in tennis' heart.
Get out of here hater.

Tom_Bombadil
07-02-2010, 11:41 PM
The Accidental Champion reaches yet another undeserved Wimbledon final. Yet another dagger in tennis' heart.

blah blah blah But you can't blame his draw this time. :D

Corey Feldman
07-02-2010, 11:43 PM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=212443&d=1277675359


http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/92/fullj.c8f6cd40fff6c00762d63710e0ca7b06/c8f6cd40fff6c00762d63710e0ca7b06-getty-98881610mh043_the_champions.jpg

Clay Death
07-02-2010, 11:44 PM
actually those who were at the match and i mean guys like johnny mac and some of the others said that murray played about as good as he could have.

it is just that every single set is so damned physical against the clay warrior.

and then there is the mental strain of having to deal with somebody who simply doesnt believe in letting go of a point that is in front of him.

and he plays the whole match like that. he can keep the intense focus and the intensity and never lets up. that wore andy out a little in the 3rd set and he started to miss.

15 aces is quite impressive from andy.

Sunset of Age
07-02-2010, 11:47 PM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=212443&d=1277675359

:spit: Perv Thread, please. :angel:

Bargearse
07-03-2010, 12:00 AM
I watched the first 2 sets & could see that :retard: was going to win easily. The rally would start of WTA/Girlish & :retard: would simply get sick of it and blast a forehand cannon that Murray couldn't deal with. Murray looks like a lightweight out there most of the time next to the likes of :retard:.

philosophicalarf
07-03-2010, 12:06 AM
Murray far from his best, rest up and get ready for the US hardcourt season champ! :yeah:


Far from his hard court best sure, but he's never produced anything much more on grass.

Having said that, I am curious to see what would have happened if Nadal hadn't got a minibreak off the netcord at 66 in the tiebreak........... Murray had it covered for the easy volley into open court, flicked right over his racket.

amonb
07-03-2010, 12:26 AM
Murray is so useless. Will never win a Slam it seems.Murray Usless???? Nadal is the best player of his generation!!!!!

rocketassist
07-03-2010, 12:29 AM
:bigcry:

l_mac
07-03-2010, 12:32 AM
:bigcry:

:hug:

His time will come.

A loss to Berdych in the final would have destroyed him mentally, at least there is no chance that happens.

Orysbestos
07-03-2010, 12:46 AM
Just retire Murray.

Rafa :hearts: Win it all.

Persimmon
07-03-2010, 12:54 AM
:spit: Perv Thread, please. :angel:

How lucky is that physio? Getting near his .....:angel:


Murray is so useless. Will never win a Slam it seems.


Murray is the male Kim Clijsters. He will lose like 4 slam finals before he finally wins one slam and then he wins another.

leng jai
07-03-2010, 01:00 AM
Everyone with a clue knew Murray wasn't winning this.

Mimi
07-03-2010, 02:49 AM
Where are all the haters now? Especially the Swedes, they all seem to hate Rafa, but they love the cheater Soderling..

And what are the haters gonna say to the fact that he has beaten both Murray and Soderling? I rememeber a time when they complained to the lack of playing top 10 players..

I have a feeling that this thread is gonna be short, cuz they all love to hate when Nadal loses, but has nothing to say when he wins. Pathetic, really.

great post, yeah, beating both Murray and Soderling in one tourney, just by lucks and cheating? i don't think so, you cannot get to the finals 4 times just by cheating and lucks. Their blind hate towards Rafa gonna get them heart attack :bigclap:

peribsen
07-03-2010, 02:59 AM
I am curious to see what would have happened if Nadal hadn't got a minibreak off the netcord at 66 in the tiebreak...........

True, but you could also be curious to know what would have happened if Nadal hadn't double faulted at 5-5 (a very uncharacteristic UE at such a crucial moment) and given Murray a set point in the first place. You see, luck cuts on both sides. Curious you should only see one edge of the blade. Maybe you simply aren't looking for the other side?

Mimi
07-03-2010, 02:59 AM
Sir, you are one of the greatest users on this boards. What a great poster and tennis fan.

:worship:

I second that, Harry Man is always fair, polite and gracious:worship:

Mimi
07-03-2010, 03:10 AM
LOL you're one to talk about bandwagoning. You spend more time on here posting bilge about Nadal than posting anything constructive about any of the players that you like.

true words have never been spoken :worship:

Mimi
07-03-2010, 03:12 AM
The Accidental Champion reaches yet another undeserved Wimbledon final. Yet another dagger in tennis' heart. you never learn right? Grow up, how old are you? Getting to finals 4 times is no luck and undeserved, Rafa has stabbled your heart with his knife:lol:

fenomeno2111
07-03-2010, 03:13 AM
Nadal played well throughout the match and so did Murray minus all the important moments...Big difference there! Now go on Rafa and capture the 8th and Murray should get ready for the USO and get a GS!

coonster14
07-03-2010, 03:19 AM
andy murray, he has nothing to be ashamed of, i thought he played great for the first 2 sets, he was serving so well, had a very good 1st serve %, the key to murray having any chance against nadal in any match is that his 1st serve needs to be dialling in.

overall looking at the whole match, nadal was just playing better than murray on so many big points. the 2nd set TB was pretty intense, nadal DF at 5-5 (which was shocking to say the least), and then getting the kiss of luck with that CC BH passing shot which hit the net cord at 6-6.

down 2 sets to 0, it was too much for murray to handle nadal in the 3rd set, despite nadal playing a very poor service game 1st game of 3rd set to give murray the early service break, but you just sensed that nadal would break back later on in the set, the guy is so mentally solid. if it was 1 set all, definitely things would have taken a different turn.

the major undoing to andy murray in the 3rd set was not only all the mental and physical energy he used in the first 2 sets, but most importantly, it was the abysmal 1st serve %, it dropped right off to 42% after 73% in 1st set and 66% in 2nd set, that is why nadal was able to break him twice in that set.

i tip my hat off to andy murray for his mighty effort in the first 2 sets :hatoff:, nice gesture by rafa at the end of the match to andy and also in the press conference afterwards, i think murray is too good a player not to win a major in his career, i really hope he does win one.

@Sweet Cleopatra
07-03-2010, 03:33 AM
andy murray, he has nothing to be ashamed of, i thought he played great for the first 2 sets, he was serving so well, had a very good 1st serve %, the key to murray having any chance against nadal in any match is that his 1st serve needs to be dialling in.

overall looking at the whole match, nadal was just playing better than murray on so many big points. the 2nd set TB was pretty intense, nadal DF at 5-5 (which was shocking to say the least), and then getting the kiss of luck with that CC BH passing shot which hit the net cord at 6-6.

down 2 sets to 0, it was too much for murray to handle nadal in the 3rd set, despite nadal playing a very poor service game 1st game of 3rd set to give murray the early service break, but you just sensed that nadal would break back later on in the set, the guy is so mentally solid. if it was 1 set all, definitely things would have taken a different turn.

the major undoing to andy murray in the 3rd set was not only all the mental and physical energy he used in the first 2 sets, but most importantly, it was the abysmal 1st serve %, it dropped right off to 42% after 73% in 1st set and 66% in 2nd set, that is why nadal was able to break him twice in that set.

i tip my hat off to andy murray for his mighty effort in the first 2 sets :hatoff:, nice gesture by rafa at the end of the match to andy and also in the press conference afterwards, i think murray is too good a player not to win a major in his career, i really hope he does win one.

I agree, Murray is a future slam winner.

superslam77
07-03-2010, 03:36 AM
I agree, Murray is a future slam winner.

When Nadal retires and Federer can't come back.

Topspin Forehand
07-03-2010, 03:59 AM
The big difference between Murray on hardcourt and grass is the return of serve. Mainly the movement is more difficult for Murray here. Though he did better than I thought in that department. Still not a hardcourt for Murray.

FairWeatherFan
07-03-2010, 04:04 AM
you never learn right? Grow up, how old are you? Getting to finals 4 times is no luck and undeserved, Rafa has stabbled your heart with his knife

Get a clue about tennis clown :cuckoo: Just accept that your wonderboy wouldn't be getting past the fourth round if they hadn't made the grass slower than a snail :lol:

@Sweet Cleopatra
07-03-2010, 04:09 AM
Get a clue about tennis clown :cuckoo: Just accept that your wonderboy wouldn't be getting past the fourth round if they hadn't made the grass slower than a snail :lol:

How can they make grass slower? I am really asking.

whattheheck
07-03-2010, 04:11 AM
Rafa played very well.

TennisAddicted
07-03-2010, 04:12 AM
glue in the grass

ChinoRios4Ever
07-03-2010, 04:15 AM
What a hell of tennis player this Nadal, will somebody give some credit in this forum? :worship: