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The lovable loser , Novak Đoković

munZe konZa
07-02-2010, 02:34 PM
this guy wants to be a comedian , he doesn't care about tennis anymore, just look at his performance in the 3rd set where he looks like a beaten dog. He always plays against himself,always the same no matter whom he plays and he never comes back . He gets way too excited and I think he is suffering from that lack of relaxation on the court which makes him more tired. All the talent in the world but just no focus which results in losing . The fat guy with him is not good for him either and makes him weak like a kid as well.

TennisAddicted
07-02-2010, 02:36 PM
http://to55er.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/it-clown.jpg

Novak new job!

kooties
07-02-2010, 02:37 PM
he's like a Lendl that doesn't get to GS finals.

M4RC
07-02-2010, 02:38 PM
He can rip the collar of his shirt while screaming in anger. Cool, no?

Action Jackson
07-02-2010, 02:40 PM
There are a lot of people who don't like Djokovic.

ReturnWinner
07-02-2010, 02:41 PM
http://to55er.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/it-clown.jpg

Novak new job!

Why do you keep posting your pic?

Priam
07-02-2010, 02:42 PM
He will win USO, don't worry.

Humerus
07-02-2010, 02:42 PM
He isn't in any way lovable.

ReturnWinner
07-02-2010, 02:42 PM
at least He is behaving well now.

siddy
07-02-2010, 02:42 PM
Unfortunate. He looked like a very promising #1 prospect at one stage in his career. Of course, he's still young and has many more chances, but he'll have to do a lot of work to win the big matches.

munZe konZa
07-02-2010, 02:43 PM
He can rip the collar of his shirt while screaming in anger. Cool, no?

someone need to tell him to do that only if he wins a tournament, right???
My biggest issue is the fat guy in the stands , he is always approving him but he needs someone that can calm him down and move him up

Frooty_Bazooty
07-02-2010, 02:43 PM
I though he put up a great fight, especially in the second set.

and also he was very gracious in defeat, giving Tomas some good words at the net after the match instead of just sulking off

Commander Data
07-02-2010, 02:44 PM
I do not think the Nole bashing is justified. His form was poor coming into Wimbledon. for this I think he played rather good today, certainly better then earlier matches I saw of him.
Berdych is currently playing very strong. Nole fighted well in the 2nd. losing that set after coming back a break down and 3 SP down broke him mentally. Berdych was the better player Nole just didn't believe anymore in the 3rd.

Not his best performance but I think he tried his best and his form is improving lately.

andylovesaustin
07-02-2010, 02:47 PM
at least He is behaving well now.

Yeah...he is, I guess.

But.. you know sulking is just the opposite of being bratty. Sometimes I think Nole sulks...in his play.

I can't decide if I prefer bad-boy Nole or not! :lol:

Well...right now, he has no choice but to be a gracious loser.

I do like Nole's off-court personality. He can be too funny.

I do agree Birdy just outplayed JoJo. I just wish JoJo would have competed a bit better--particularly in the third.

swebright
07-02-2010, 02:48 PM
He can't improve anymore. He has peaked.

Noleta
07-02-2010, 02:48 PM
The fat guy can't do nothing for Nole fucked up head,it is the player that has to do it on the court,and Nole simply can not handle the pressure anymore,sad but true,after today's shitty performance:)

Aaric
07-02-2010, 02:49 PM
he's like a Lendl that doesn't get to GS finals.

Fail

shadows
07-02-2010, 02:49 PM
Can't believe he's the #2 again. Hilarous stuff.

tennis2tennis
07-02-2010, 02:49 PM
he chooses to be bipolar...

Noleta
07-02-2010, 02:50 PM
He can't improve anymore. He has peaked.

Very possible.

I do not think the Nole bashing is justified. His form was poor coming into Wimbledon. for this I think he played rather good today, certainly better then earlier matches I saw of him.
Berdych is currently playing very strong. Nole fighted well in the 2nd. losing that set after coming back a break down and 3 SP down broke him mentally. Berdych was the better player Nole just didn't believe anymore in the 3rd.

Not his best performance but I think he tried his best and his form is improving lately.

I agree about his form being poor before Wimby,i didn't expect him tp reach the QF tbh.But to say that he played rather good today is a joke,no offence:hug:

munZe konZa
07-02-2010, 02:50 PM
I do not think the Nole bashing is justified. His form was poor coming into Wimbledon. for this I think he played rather good today, certainly better then earlier matches I saw of him.
Berdych is currently playing very strong. Nole fighted well in the 2nd. losing that set after coming back a break down and 3 SP down broke him mentally. Berdych was the better player Nole just didn't believe anymore in the 3rd.

Not his best performance but I think he tried his best and his form is improving lately.'

Nole gave up a match today just like he gave up in Roland Garros and Australia. He is too emotional and not focused which makes him up and down and tired which results in losses. There is hardly any match this year that he didn't give up on. Top talented players don't do that. The worst thing is that he doesn't care or understand what is going on and hopes that he will just become lucky. He is too talented to rely on luck and luck hasn't been up for him which is expected.

Dimitra
07-02-2010, 02:50 PM
oh shut up already.:rolleyes:
Djoker did well to even reach the semis with his recent form and his draw.
Well done Nole!:yeah:

andylovesaustin
07-02-2010, 02:51 PM
he chooses to be bipolar...

:rolls:

Noleta
07-02-2010, 02:51 PM
Can't believe he's the #2 again. Hilarous stuff.

I'm a fan of his,but i have to agree with you:o

Dimitra
07-02-2010, 02:51 PM
Can't believe he's the #2 again. Hilarous stuff.

Sadly Fed has been even worse post-AO :shrug: :o

Noleta
07-02-2010, 02:52 PM
'

Nole gave up a match today just like he gave up in Roland Garros and Australia. He is too emotional and not focused which makes him up and down and tired which results in losses. There is hardly any match this year that he didn't give up on. Top talented players don't do that. The worst thing is that he doesn't care or understand what is going on and hopes that he will just become lucky. He is too talented to rely on luck and luck hasn't been up for him which is expected.

They say you make your own luck:p

Noleta
07-02-2010, 02:53 PM
Sadly Fed has been even worse post-AO :shrug: :o

Mug era,right?:p

munZe konZa
07-02-2010, 02:53 PM
The fat guy can't do nothing for Nole fucked up head,it is the player that has to do it on the court,and Nole simply can not handle the pressure anymore,sad but true,after today's shitty performance:)

The fat guy has made him soft and unfocused , the past doesn't matter. It's time to move on but I am afraid Nole isn't even thinking about it and he is wasting time. Nole can definitelly play but if he gives up in matches as he has been doing the whole year and coming unfocused, he will lose as he has been for a year or two.

andylovesaustin
07-02-2010, 02:54 PM
'

Nole gave up a match today just like he gave up in Roland Garros and Australia. He is too emotional and not focused which makes him up and down and tired which results in losses. There is hardly any match this year that he didn't give up on. Top talented players don't do that. The worst thing is that he doesn't care or understand what is going on and hopes that he will just become lucky. He is too talented to rely on luck and luck hasn't been up for him which is expected.

I don't know if he "gave-up." I just think he came unhinged in the third. Hey.. it could have been worse! He could have been bageled!

I think Tomas was playing well. Maybe Nole would rather lose playing badly than play well and be beaten, if that makes any sense?

Commander Data
07-02-2010, 02:55 PM
'

Nole gave up a match today just like he gave up in Roland Garros and Australia. He is too emotional and not focused which makes him up and down and tired which results in losses. There is hardly any match this year that he didn't give up on. Top talented players don't do that. The worst thing is that he doesn't care or understand what is going on and hopes that he will just become lucky. He is too talented to rely on luck and luck hasn't been up for him which is expected.

He is an emotionale person, he can not change his nature. He needs a to find a better way to deal with it, I agree. Overall I think SF was not a bad result here, Sure he could have fighted more in the 3rd. He is like Federer not the fighter like Nadal. But not everybody can be like Nadal.

Lets see how he performs in the HC season, his strongest surface.

munZe konZa
07-02-2010, 03:00 PM
He is an emotionale person, he can not change his nature. He needs a to find a better way to deal with it, I agree. Overall I think SF was not a bad result here, Sure he could have fighted more in the 3rd. He is like Federer not the fighter like Nadal. But not everybody can be like Nadal.

Lets see how he performs in the HC season, his strongest surface.

it's a bad result because he gave up just like he gave up in Roland Garros and Australia, this is clear and this is a pattern. He has become soft and unfocused which is why he is losing all the time. His loses in the last 2 years are pathetic and are getting worse. Today he gave double faults and gave up a match

BigJohn
07-02-2010, 03:02 PM
Define "lovable"...

Noleta
07-02-2010, 03:03 PM
The fat guy has made him soft and unfocused , the past doesn't matter. It's time to move on but I am afraid Nole isn't even thinking about it and he is wasting time. Nole can definitelly play but if he gives up in matches as he has been doing the whole year and coming unfocused, he will lose as he has been for a year or two.

Okay,so let's say he sould fire the fat guy,who do you have in mind as a replacement?

I don't know if he "gave-up." I just think he came unhinged in the third. Hey.. it could have been worse! He could have been bageled!

I think Tomas was playing well. Maybe Nole would rather lose playing badly than play well and be beaten, if that makes any sense?

Nah.

He is an emotionale person, he can not change his nature. He needs a to find a better way to deal with it, I agree. Overall I think SF was not a bad result here, Sure he could have fighted more in the 3rd. He is like Federer not the fighter like Nadal. But not everybody can be like Nadal.

Lets see how he performs in the HC season, his strongest surface.

He's got lot's of points to defend that's for sure.

MagicMilan
07-02-2010, 03:03 PM
He's a lover, not a fighter :retard:

Noleta
07-02-2010, 03:04 PM
it's a bad result because he gave up just like he gave up in Roland Garros and Australia, this is clear and this is a pattern. He has become soft and unfocused which is why he is losing all the time. His loses in the last 2 years are pathetic and are getting worse. Today he gave double faults and gave up a match

You making it sould like he gave up on purpose:rolleyes:He is not though enough upstairs.

marco518
07-02-2010, 03:05 PM
He can't improve anymore. He has peaked.

He can peak by winning the 3rd and 4th set and then lose the 5th 70-72.

munZe konZa
07-02-2010, 03:05 PM
Define "lovable"...
obviously he still has fans who love him and who certainly don't care for winning

andylovesaustin
07-02-2010, 03:07 PM
Okay,so let's say he sould fire the fat guy,who do you have in mind as a replacement?



Nah.



He's got lot's of points to defend that's for sure.

I didn't think so!:retard:

This thread is cracking me up!:help:

munZe konZa
07-02-2010, 03:08 PM
You making it sould like he gave up on purpose:rolleyes:He is not though enough upstairs.

it matters what he does, not what he says or thinks at the moment and his actions speak that he has quit on his career. You are getting really pedantic here

Noleta
07-02-2010, 03:09 PM
I didn't think so!:retard:

This thread is cracking me up!:help:

:rolleyes:Maybe you can go back and read what you posted,cause it doesn't make sense i'm affraid:hug:

Good for you:lol:

Action Jackson
07-02-2010, 03:16 PM
For Munze, Nole should retire.

andylovesaustin
07-02-2010, 03:25 PM
:rolleyes:Maybe you can go back and read what you posted,cause it doesn't make sense i'm affraid:hug:

Good for you:lol:

Yeah, I said, "I didn't think so"! So I was agreeing with you!

Don't get all defensive!

Commander Data
07-02-2010, 03:25 PM
For Munze, Nole should retire.

He is just frustrated. For some, everybody not in the finals of the current Slam should retire. I'm sick of this retire-shit.

Commander Data
07-02-2010, 03:26 PM
it's a bad result because he gave up just like he gave up in Roland Garros and Australia, this is clear and this is a pattern. He has become soft and unfocused which is why he is losing all the time. His loses in the last 2 years are pathetic and are getting worse. Today he gave double faults and gave up a match

He is still young.....he can change things around.

Noleta
07-02-2010, 03:36 PM
Yeah, I said, "I didn't think so"! So I was agreeing with you!

Don't get all defensive!

Apologies:hug:I'm a bit cranky,that's all:o

:hug:

He is just frustrated. For some, everybody not in the finals of the current Slam should retire. I'm sick of this retire-shit.

:lol:It's getting boring now:)

munZe konZa
07-02-2010, 03:40 PM
He is still young.....he can change things around.
he is not young anymore, I mean he is worse than 3 years ago. No one fears him anymore because he is soft and unfocused.

henke007
07-02-2010, 03:41 PM
If Nole don't reach the final at US OPEN he will not have been in a GS final for 3 years come AO-11?!!

Maybe even worthy of its own thread!!

andylovesaustin
07-02-2010, 03:43 PM
Apologies:hug:I'm a bit cranky,that's all:o

:hug:



:lol:It's getting boring now:)

Ah.. you didn't need to apologize. I just wanted to tell you I was agreeing with you!

I agree about the retiring "ish," too. Nole is #2 in the world, so he's had some success apparently. And making it to the semis isn't too shabby. This is the first time he's made it right?

So.. yeah Nole has to work on some things, but I would imagine he can still make a living playing top level tennis. I'm not sure if he'll win another grand slam, but at least he competes on all surfaces. :shrug:

What did he do at the French? I can't remember. Yeah, and he's won the AO, so he might have a shot at the USO, too.

MacTheKnife
07-02-2010, 03:49 PM
I like this term better than "lucky loser"..

Noleta
07-02-2010, 03:51 PM
Ah.. you didn't need to apologize. I just wanted to tell you I was agreeing with you!

I agree about the retiring "ish," too. Nole is #2 in the world, so he's had some success apparently. And making it to the semis isn't too shabby. This is the first time he's made it right?

So.. yeah Nole has to work on some things, but I would imagine he can still make a living playing top level tennis. I'm not sure if he'll win another grand slam, but at least he competes on all surfaces. :shrug:

What did he do at the French? I can't remember. Yeah, and he's won the AO, so he might have a shot at the USO, too.

:hug:

This was his second sf at Wimby:)He is no 2,but he doesn't seserve to be there,based on his form this year:o

The only thing he has to work on,is his fragile brain imo:shrug:

He lost to Melzer,being 2 sets and a break up,at the QF:o

andylovesaustin
07-02-2010, 03:54 PM
:hug:

This was his second sf at Wimby:)He is no 2,but he doesn't seserve to be there,based on his form this year:o

The only thing he has to work on,is his fragile brain imo:shrug:

He lost to Melzer,being 2 sets and a break up,at the QF:o

Oh yeah... I must have blocked-out that loss! :rolls:

Nole...:hug:

jasmin
07-02-2010, 04:01 PM
He just doesn't seem as mentally strong to me as he needs to be. Sometimes he can make a comeback but when he's challenged too much he bails. He starts looking frustrated and tired. I'm not sure if he's use to things just not going his way and fighting through it.

Dimitra
07-02-2010, 04:02 PM
:rolls: what a clown the OP,bad-repping everyone who doesn't agree with him

theblejach
07-02-2010, 04:08 PM
I am disappointed and I can not see him anymore... :(

jasmin
07-02-2010, 04:11 PM
What do you mean you can't see him anymore. Was there some kind of break up.

tnosugar
07-02-2010, 04:21 PM
Too many words wasted here.

Nothing has changed. Since his AO title he has made no progress whatsoever.
He has ruined his serve, he can't volley, he lost his tie-break clutch (his w/l ratio used to be amazing)
He plays percentage tennis and waits for errors, and that will get you to semi-finals at best.
The only thing he managed to develop is a solid back-hand slice that bails him out when he tires during a point.

New coach. New physio. Do not let dad to the matches at all (it obviously affects him). Should stop barking during points, suck in all the negative energy when losing one, churn it up and transform it into a winner in the next (that's what Nadal does, that's what Fed used to do, and Sampras)

But perhaps he doesn't want to commit 100% to tennis. That's fine too.

Serenidad
07-02-2010, 04:31 PM
he's like a Lendl that doesn't get to GS finals.

:spit: :haha:

petar_pan
07-02-2010, 05:34 PM
he is on 2:6 in semis. pathetic
he beated ferrer and mononucleosis's federer

Priam
07-02-2010, 05:50 PM
Wasn't he supposed to be the future #1 after AO 08??

Now it's all about allergies/coach/serve. What is happening to him???

MagicMilan
07-02-2010, 05:52 PM
he is on 2:6 in semis. pathetic
he beated ferrer and mononucleosis's federer
And Tomas beat onelegged-injuredback Roger...
Agree on the first thing, it is pathetic :o

Polikarpov
07-02-2010, 05:57 PM
Considering his form coming into this championships, he couldn't have asked for a better result. And it's not like he was beaten by someone like Fognini or Monfils. He lost to the guy who ended Federina's stranglehold of Wimbledon.:shrug:

Beat
07-02-2010, 06:01 PM
he doesn't care about tennis anymore

you don't reach SF at wimbledon by "not caring".

moon language
07-02-2010, 06:03 PM
Ever since the crowd got on him at the US Open he's never been the same.

TennisOnWood
07-02-2010, 06:14 PM
He looked more to his box then to court :confused:

Great to see him out of tournament

munZe konZa
07-02-2010, 07:14 PM
Considering his form coming into this championships, he couldn't have asked for a better result. And it's not like he was beaten by someone like Fognini or Monfils. He lost to the guy who ended Federina's stranglehold of Wimbledon.:shrug:

stop with that parroting line,guess what ? He gave up another grand slam match , in fact all 3 grand slam matches this year and many before that. are you another woman who doesn't know what she is talking about? Why are there so many women here anyway who don't care about results or tennis? Don't you have things to do in life that you care about?

munZe konZa
07-02-2010, 07:18 PM
you don't reach SF at wimbledon by "not caring".

that's almost genius, maybe he cares too much and cares too much about other things but a man is limited . Maybe he should temper himself and not get too high or too low. That 3rd set was pathetically low and there are too many of those last couple of years.

The Magician
07-02-2010, 07:36 PM
Only people who love Djokomug are his opponents who he gifts the match and then trades shirts to show how glad he is to lose :o When you're as talented and accomplished as Djokomug and you keep losing it's clear you don't care about tennis, munZe konZa is finally right in his negativity :eek:

Bargearse
07-02-2010, 10:54 PM
I never used to like Jerkovic as I used to call him. I like him better these days - he played ok yesterday, just couldn't play the big points as well as Berdych. I'm sure he was more gracious in defeat than Federer.

A_Skywalker
07-02-2010, 11:19 PM
Only people who love Djokomug are his opponents who he gifts the match and then trades shirts to show how glad he is to lose :o When you're as talented and accomplished as Djokomug and you keep losing it's clear you don't care about tennis, munZe konZa is finally right in his negativity :eek:

what a troll you are.

Some people would give a hand to have just one semifinal at GS. And Djokovic has even won a GS.
I dont like him really, but noone should give up, even if hes losing R1. And Djokovic isnt doing this.

BigJohn
07-02-2010, 11:19 PM
Ever since the crowd got on him at the US Open he's never been the same.

Whatsoever a man soweth, that he shall also reap.

Persimmon
07-03-2010, 12:06 AM
http://to55er.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/it-clown.jpg

Novak new job!

shIT


I blame Todd Martin:o


He will win USO, don't worry.

Nah. Either Murray or Berdych will. Perhaps even Soderling...

paseo
07-03-2010, 04:14 AM
I don't think he's lovable. And I don't think he's a loser at all.

FairWeatherFan
07-03-2010, 04:28 AM
There's nothing lovable about this clown.

Mimi
07-03-2010, 04:46 AM
he always is gracious even on the most heartbreaking defeats:worship:

TennisLurker
07-03-2010, 04:54 AM
Not lovable

~Maya~
07-03-2010, 04:59 AM
But, Is he a bigger loser than you?

Commander Data
07-03-2010, 06:25 AM
he is not young anymore, I mean he is worse than 3 years ago. No one fears him anymore because he is soft and unfocused.

Okay. Nole is a weak pussy, mentally soft sissy. Distracted like ashattered mirror. unable to chose the right coach, an embarassement for the Serbs. he can't do nothing, he will never again do anything significant.

So what do you keep whinning here? man up and move on. Don't cry me a fucking river.

I_Dasco
07-03-2010, 10:22 AM
He is just too young and sometimes cant control his self? So what's problem here No one is perfect...

TennisOnWood
07-03-2010, 10:23 AM
He is just too young and sometimes cant control his self? So what's problem here No one is perfect...

Really?

Vida
07-03-2010, 11:10 AM
I do not think the Nole bashing is justified. His form was poor coming into Wimbledon. for this I think he played rather good today, certainly better then earlier matches I saw of him.
Berdych is currently playing very strong. Nole fighted well in the 2nd. losing that set after coming back a break down and 3 SP down broke him mentally. Berdych was the better player Nole just didn't believe anymore in the 3rd.

Not his best performance but I think he tried his best and his form is improving lately.

dont know if bashing is justified, but nole really could have played better out there. like, things didnt click from the go, and he was behind 'goings-on' the whole time. something like that.

my impression is he didnt prepare mentally well for the match. he deliberately downplayed his chances before it even started. why would he do that?

I dont know, I look at its like in any other competition - you want to win, not to take part. you want to set things in such a way, so that you play as better and the other guy (or team) plays as worst.

obviously novak wanted to win, badly, but he mistakenly believed that being in the role of an underdog (which he wasnt really) he might stand a better chance.

malisha
07-03-2010, 12:11 PM
he just needs a good long slump...joke draws and #2 in the world wont help...he still thinks hes playing ok

you cant get up before you fall down

Filo V.
07-03-2010, 05:23 PM
A guy whose not playing near his capabilities being able to make the QF and SF of grand slams and be ranked #2 in the world isn't a loser.

Start da Game
07-03-2010, 05:31 PM
his two biggest shots are suffering big time........the serve and the forehand........no need to look any further than that and scrutinize deeply........

he has to rediscover his stroke mechanism on those two shots and improve his stamina and focus side by side........i also think switching to head racket will go down as the biggest mistake of his life........

xargon
07-03-2010, 05:59 PM
Dont forget Berd beat Fed at Wim and Murray at RG. Berd's just good.

Jimnik
07-03-2010, 07:13 PM
Strange timing for a thread like this.

Djoker just had his best tournament of the year. If anything he's looking more promising now than before grass season.

Sunset of Age
07-03-2010, 08:28 PM
Strange timing for a thread like this.

Djoker just had his best tournament of the year. If anything he's looking more promising now than before grass season.

This. Djoko has had a dire season so far, and yet here he comes, making it to the Wimbledon semifinal, only to lose to a player who's obviously on fire right now. No big shame at all, as said player also knocked out the 6-times champ.

Djoko will be alright, he'll have to work on certain aspects of his game, but which player doesn't, right now? Problem is classical overreaction from fans and haters alike. Not every young star will end up 'winning everything in sight', which so many still seem to believe. He'll bounce back strongly during the US HC season, no doubts about that.

debby
07-03-2010, 08:30 PM
he just needs a good long slump...joke draws and #2 in the world wont help...he still thinks hes playing ok

you cant get up before you fall down

:unsure: I don't think so. Actually, I believe it is much harder to overcome a long-slump (Nalbandian,Baghdatis, Ancic... on WTA side, Ivanovic, Vaidisova, and some others...) .

munZe konZa
07-03-2010, 10:51 PM
Strange timing for a thread like this.

Djoker just had his best tournament of the year. If anything he's looking more promising now than before grass season.

He gave up 3 grand slam matches this year and many other matches , do you understand that ???
By the end of each of those , he was looking like a beaten dog and that's not something any good player does let alone if he has any aspirations. Someone said he is not preparing right and this is very true, he is not prepared and can't relax, he is either pushing too hard or tanking

batavlada
07-03-2010, 11:03 PM
There is a one major reason for fall of Djokovic:

- projection of past failings in real time moment. This triggering anxiety and other elements of health issues in majority.

Djokovic have two opponents every time he play. Himself at first place and then comes a tennis player on other side of the net. If he can prevail over himself projected "what if" he can play more focused. Few years ago he didnt had those problems, obviously, because he "collected" them through matches. He had nothing to loose. Not ranking, not points. Losing to Safin at W 2008 was just example what fear of failing can produce. His family have major part in creating this issue.

Tearing shirt after a victory few days ago was just example of winning not a match but beating "other Djokovic" in himself. Djokovic completely forgot who is he and how he can play if he is really on court. Frankly, I do not want to see him winning but I want see him playing like man.

He should wrote down on his left hand who is he and why he is on court that day, and read it everytime he escaping from reality to parallel world of sorrow, pain, fear and illness. ; )

collo1978
07-04-2010, 10:06 AM
well even though he will be no 2 ranked do you ever think he will another grandslam? he defentely doesn't have that aura he used to have. He was very lucky to beat hewitt.

Do you think this article stands - Novak Djokovic will never win another Grand Slam
(http://www.thebigtip.com.au/tennis/novak-djokovic-will-never-win-another-grand-slam)
When he was rising through the ranks, Djokovic played with a freedom on the big points, and that, combined with his booming ground strokes was the reason he got as high as he did. However, now thatís replaced with a tentative approach, volatile demeanour, and most curiously, a complete lack of stamina. In his first couple of years on the tour Djokovic would have no problems playing five set matches. Now, any time thereís a weather forecast thatís over the mid twenties, Djokovic almost throws in the towel when playing any decent level of opponent.

http://www.thebigtip.com.au/sites/default/files/novak-djokovic-semi-final-match.jpg

allpro
07-04-2010, 10:12 AM
^ if he doesn't get his breathing issues resolved, he'll never win another major.

collo1978
07-04-2010, 10:14 AM
^ if he doesn't get his breathing issues resolved, he'll never win another major.

Yep the breathing is a problem, you think hewitts comments were fair enough

TennisOnWood
07-04-2010, 11:16 AM
Yeah.. hope he will stay 1 Slam wonder

FormerRafaFan
07-04-2010, 12:28 PM
I like Nole, I hope he can win a couple of slams in his career, but yeah, I have my doubts.. His breathing is a huge problem. You need to be 100 % fit to even stand a chance. I feel bad for Nole, because he's not really a bad player, but he has been a bit unlucky.

munZe konZa
03-04-2012, 06:45 PM
Just love all the Federer fans approving of him losing and now that he is playing like he can they are talking nonsense trying to disredit him.

Kat_YYZ
03-04-2012, 07:13 PM
Just love all the Federer fans approving of him losing and now that he is playing like he can they are talking nonsense trying to disredit him.

:confused:
you started this thread. now you bump it in order to attack Fed fans? All this thread shows is how little faith you had in Novak (and how little you know about him). And you think it shows something negative about Federer fans??

Vida
03-04-2012, 07:16 PM
shesh, figuring out that gluten thing was a stroke of luck. thank god it was something 'removable'.

BigJohn
03-04-2012, 07:20 PM
:confused:
you started this thread. now you bump it in order to attack Fed fans? All this thread shows is how little faith you had in Novak (and how little you know about him). And you think it shows something negative about Federer fans??

That's why munZe is on my buddy list.

Vida
03-04-2012, 07:29 PM
should be said of course, the luck part is relative, as it so often is. he was lucky to have figured it out (I think that quacks wife saw him breathing through his ears on TV, and said to her husband to send them an email or smth), OR was he unlucky to have had this condition to begin with? OR, you could say, federer and, especially, nadal are unlucky for him to have figured it out (obviously), OR were they actually lucky for him to have been hampered for so many years?

edit: tough shit.

BigJohn
03-04-2012, 07:30 PM
Or he was lucky last year.

EliSter
03-04-2012, 07:43 PM
Maybe i should join atp tour and pray to get lucky and win 3 gs and 5 masters and have 41-0 record at start of season?:confused: ^ :stupid:

GOAT in progress
03-04-2012, 07:51 PM
Maybe i should join atp tour and pray to get lucky and win 3 gs and 5 masters and have 41-0 record at start of season?:confused: ^ :stupid:

By far greatest achievement in the history of tennis, 100% luck :):)

abraxas21
03-04-2012, 07:55 PM
By far greatest achievement in the history of tennis, 100% luck :):)

:spit:

BigJohn
03-04-2012, 08:04 PM
Maybe i should join atp tour and pray to get lucky and win 3 gs and 5 masters and have 41-0 record at start of season?:confused: ^ :stupid:

So luck has nothing to do with a 41 winning streak? Nothing at all?

By far greatest achievement in the history of tennis, 100% luck :):)

It's further than you think, and not in the same direction you're looking.

EliSter
03-04-2012, 08:15 PM
So luck has nothing to do with a 41 winning streak? Nothing at all?



It's further than you think, and not in the same direction you're looking.

It did had in few matches...he was close to lose and he had few lucky wins but cmon 41-0 and all the titles cant be won by pure luck :rolleyes:

munZe konZa
03-04-2012, 08:23 PM
:confused:
you started this thread. now you bump it in order to attack Fed fans? All this thread shows is how little faith you had in Novak (and how little you know about him). And you think it shows something negative about Federer fans??

no smarty, I knew he had it in him, that's why I criticised him. Critising bad work is the opposite of criticising good work. Just read this thread and look at people saying that he deserved losing or making semifinals is all good for him and nowadays they are critising him for winning, now that's hypocritical but I don't think you care about that so I am finnished with you here.

Kat_YYZ
03-04-2012, 08:24 PM
from page 6 of this thread, from 2010:

well even though he will be no 2 ranked do you ever think he will another grandslam? he defentely doesn't have that aura he used to have. He was very lucky to beat hewitt.

Do you think this article stands - Novak Djokovic will never win another Grand Slam
(http://www.thebigtip.com.au/tennis/novak-djokovic-will-never-win-another-grand-slam)


Haha, you can go to that guy's page now and leave comments about how wrong he was. :p

BigJohn
03-04-2012, 08:30 PM
It did had in few matches...he was close to lose and he had few lucky wins but cmon 41-0 and all the titles cant be won by pure luck :rolleyes:

Quote me when I said pure luck. :rolleyes:

BigJohn
03-04-2012, 08:32 PM
no smarty, I knew he had it in him, that's why I criticised him. Critising bad work is the opposite of criticising good work. Just read this thread and look at people saying that he deserved losing or making semifinals is all good for him and nowadays they are critising him for winning, now that's hypocritical but I don't think you care about that so I am finnished with you here.

Brilliant 1000th post. You were right all along.

Vida
03-04-2012, 08:44 PM
take gluten allergy out of the picture and you have fed not breaking sampras record (its a bummer), nadal on a rinky dinky single digit slam count, and nole on a sure fire path to goatness.

fact.

EliSter
03-04-2012, 08:44 PM
Quote me when I said pure luck. :rolleyes:

U just dont want to admit joker dominated last year and factor of that was his skill 99% and rest was luck, shamefull that the other players doesnt strike that kind of little luck and win all what he won last year :rolleyes: Every great result and achievement in this sport carried with it self little bit of luck its never 100% skill...You are to bitter to adimit....but whatever, who cares.

reery
03-04-2012, 08:47 PM
shesh, figuring out that gluten thing was a stroke of luck. thank god it was something 'removable'.

Just imagine how many slams Nole would have now if he discovered he was allergic to gluten 4 years ago.:eek: He could be hitting double digits at the slams right now.

2008, 2009 and 2010, wasted years.

Vida
03-04-2012, 08:50 PM
Just imagine how many slams Nole would have now if he discovered he was allergic to gluten 4 years ago.:eek: He could be hitting double digits at the slams right now.

2008, 2009 and 2010, wasted years.

thats right.

fedal was lucky.

BigJohn
03-04-2012, 08:51 PM
take gluten allergy out of the picture and you have fed not breaking sampras record (its a bummer), nadal on a rinky dinky single digit slam count, and nole on a sure fire path to goatness.

fact.

OMKG, Vida... What the hell happened to you?

U just dont want to admit joker dominated last year and factor of that was his skill 99% and rest was luck, shamefull that the other players doesnt strike that kind of little luck and win all what he won last year :rolleyes: Every great result and achievement in this sport carried with it self little bit of luck its never 100% skill...You are to bitter to adimit....but whatever, who cares.

First of all, he had a good few months, but his year was not completely good. Let's keep that in mind.

Second, you put words in my mouth, then produce this rant when I point out that you misquoted me? You need to dissociate yourself from Nole. I'm afraid you might be too involved. It's not healthy.

BigJohn
03-04-2012, 08:53 PM
Just imagine how many slams Nole would have now if he discovered he was allergic to gluten 4 years ago.:eek: He could be hitting double digits at the slams right now.

2008, 2009 and 2010, wasted years.

If they knew about gluten soon enough, he could have started his amazing domination at age 5 and be close to 80 slam titles.

Vida
03-04-2012, 08:58 PM
thats an exagaration bigjohn, please be rational.

reery
03-04-2012, 09:04 PM
thats an exagaration bigjohn, please be rational.

Those 3 wasted years could be the difference between a GOAT candidate and the overwhelming, indisputable GOAT.

munZe konZa
03-04-2012, 09:07 PM
should be said of course, the luck part is relative, as it so often is. he was lucky to have figured it out (I think that quacks wife saw him breathing through his ears on TV, and said to her husband to send them an email or smth), OR was he unlucky to have had this condition to begin with? OR, you could say, federer and, especially, nadal are unlucky for him to have figured it out (obviously), OR were they actually lucky for him to have been hampered for so many years?

edit: tough shit.

Lots of posters in this thread are unlucky that Nole finally started playing like he always could.

munZe konZa
03-04-2012, 09:11 PM
Just imagine how many slams Nole would have now if he discovered he was allergic to gluten 4 years ago.:eek: He could be hitting double digits at the slams right now.

2008, 2009 and 2010, wasted years.

Yes but sometimes early struggles and falls predict a future invincibility and now he has all the time and momentum to chase Fedal and history. If he was winning everything then, maybe he would be bored now and falling down.

EliSter
03-04-2012, 09:13 PM
OMKG, Vida... What the hell happened to you?



First of all, he had a good few months, but his year was not completely good. Let's keep that in mind.

Second, you put words in my mouth, then produce this rant when I point out that you misquoted me? You need to dissociate yourself from Nole. I'm afraid you might be too involved. It's not healthy.

Erm atleast im not mentioning Nole in every single post as u :rolleyes: tell me about being opssesed...

BigJohn
03-04-2012, 09:15 PM
thats an exagaration bigjohn, please be rational.

You don't know.

If both Dijana and Srjdn would have been gluten free themselves, Novak could have started this incredible run of form from conception. If they egged him the minute he was delivered, they could have made him superhuman.

There is little doubt he would have been born with 20/20 vision and walk about pretty much like a little horse just a few hours after birth.

Gluten free diet from infancy would have meant a faster physical development, by age 5, he'd be pretty much at what all normal 16 year old are, in height and muscular mass, but with lightning fast agility, perfect balance and spider sens.

Now we know just how good was 18 yo Novak, and he was crippled by gluten. Look at the old videos: he looks all unhealthy and poisoned, but even in such a degenerative state, he was competitive.

So a 5 year old SuperGlutenFreeNole (in fact the equivalent age of 16 yo regular Nole) would be already much better than 18 yo, suffering from mild anaphylactic shock 24/7.

That's just common sense.

BigJohn
03-04-2012, 09:17 PM
Erm atleast im not mentioning Nole in every single post as u :rolleyes: tell me about being opssesed...

I can guarantee you I'm less involved. ;)

Time Violation
03-04-2012, 09:23 PM
You don't know.

If both Dijana and Srjdn would have been gluten free themselves, Novak could have started this incredible run of form from conception. If they egged him the minute he was delivered, they could have made him superhuman.

There is little doubt he would have been born with 20/20 vision and walk about pretty much like a little horse just a few hours after birth.

Gluten free diet from infancy would have meant a faster physical development, by age 5, he'd be pretty much at what all normal 16 year old are, in height and muscular mass, but with lightning fast agility, perfect balance and spider sens.

Now we know just how good was 18 yo Novak, and he was crippled by gluten. Look at the old videos: he looks all unhealthy and poisoned, but even in such a degenerative state, he was competitive.

So a 5 year old SuperGlutenFreeNole (in fact the equivalent age of 16 yo regular Nole) would be already much better than 18 yo, suffering from mild anaphylactic shock 24/7.

That's just common sense.

Earth to BJ, Earth to BJ, come in BJ... :p

Vida
03-04-2012, 09:25 PM
bigjohn lost his marbles. turning into a bigclown.

MIMIC
03-04-2012, 09:34 PM
First of all, he had a good few months, but his year was not completely good. Let's keep that in mind.


So bitter :hug:

Vida
03-04-2012, 09:37 PM
So bitter :hug:

funniest thing was bigjohn seeking attention from novak fans by talking about novak the attention seeking whore.

BigJohn
03-04-2012, 09:43 PM
Alright, band of Nolelovers, compare my post to this factual post...


take gluten allergy out of the picture and you have fed not breaking sampras record (its a bummer), nadal on a rinky dinky single digit slam count, and nole on a sure fire path to goatness.

fact.

Now think about it.

Time Violation
03-04-2012, 10:17 PM
Think about what? There's no collective being called "Nolefans". I really have no idea what you are trying to prove here :)

Clay Death
03-04-2012, 10:21 PM
i can see the mindless blind hate flowing freely here. its amusing shit to to say the least.

BigJohn
03-04-2012, 11:36 PM
Think about what? There's no collective being called "Nolefans". I really have no idea what you are trying to prove here :)

Not talking about fans...

BigJohn
03-04-2012, 11:37 PM
i can see the mindless blind hate flowing freely here. its amusing shit to to say the least.

I can smell the repetitive bullshit flowing freely. CD has arrived.

Mountaindewslave
03-04-2012, 11:52 PM
You don't know.

If both Dijana and Srjdn would have been gluten free themselves, Novak could have started this incredible run of form from conception. If they egged him the minute he was delivered, they could have made him superhuman.

There is little doubt he would have been born with 20/20 vision and walk about pretty much like a little horse just a few hours after birth.

Gluten free diet from infancy would have meant a faster physical development, by age 5, he'd be pretty much at what all normal 16 year old are, in height and muscular mass, but with lightning fast agility, perfect balance and spider sens.

Now we know just how good was 18 yo Novak, and he was crippled by gluten. Look at the old videos: he looks all unhealthy and poisoned, but even in such a degenerative state, he was competitive.

So a 5 year old SuperGlutenFreeNole (in fact the equivalent age of 16 yo regular Nole) would be already much better than 18 yo, suffering from mild anaphylactic shock 24/7.

That's just common sense.

:haha: :haha: best poster on this site :worship: :worship:

Mjau!
03-05-2012, 12:00 AM
7/10 people have gluten sensitivity to some degree! Gluten sensitivity can cause allergies, breathing problems, fatigue, cramps, joint pain and concentration difficulties! All of which are symptoms Nole used to suffer from!

leng jai
03-05-2012, 12:01 AM
You don't know.

If both Dijana and Srjdn would have been gluten free themselves, Novak could have started this incredible run of form from conception. If they egged him the minute he was delivered, they could have made him superhuman.

There is little doubt he would have been born with 20/20 vision and walk about pretty much like a little horse just a few hours after birth.

Gluten free diet from infancy would have meant a faster physical development, by age 5, he'd be pretty much at what all normal 16 year old are, in height and muscular mass, but with lightning fast agility, perfect balance and spider sens.

Now we know just how good was 18 yo Novak, and he was crippled by gluten. Look at the old videos: he looks all unhealthy and poisoned, but even in such a degenerative state, he was competitive.

So a 5 year old SuperGlutenFreeNole (in fact the equivalent age of 16 yo regular Nole) would be already much better than 18 yo, suffering from mild anaphylactic shock 24/7.

That's just common sense.

Despite the distinct lack of ajde in this post, it is pretty sound.

Ajde.

Time Violation
03-05-2012, 12:05 AM
Not talking about fans...

Meh... so much for the sensful posting

tripwires
03-05-2012, 01:00 AM
You don't know.

If both Dijana and Srjdn would have been gluten free themselves, Novak could have started this incredible run of form from conception. If they egged him the minute he was delivered, they could have made him superhuman.

There is little doubt he would have been born with 20/20 vision and walk about pretty much like a little horse just a few hours after birth.

Gluten free diet from infancy would have meant a faster physical development, by age 5, he'd be pretty much at what all normal 16 year old are, in height and muscular mass, but with lightning fast agility, perfect balance and spider sens.

Now we know just how good was 18 yo Novak, and he was crippled by gluten. Look at the old videos: he looks all unhealthy and poisoned, but even in such a degenerative state, he was competitive.

So a 5 year old SuperGlutenFreeNole (in fact the equivalent age of 16 yo regular Nole) would be already much better than 18 yo, suffering from mild anaphylactic shock 24/7.

That's just common sense.

:haha: :bowdown:

Mr. Oracle
03-05-2012, 05:34 PM
Can this thread be compressed so dense so as to create a black hole from which the op cannot escape?