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Federer will rise

Commander Data
07-01-2010, 09:33 PM
I believe that Federer will rise in 2011. Up the rankings. I think the game is notcatching up to him, he is can still beat Players like Berdych and Söderling. Meanwhile Djokovic is struggling, Murray had a weak season and we all know Nadal will tough time this fall. I hate it but Del Potro will also be a non-factor. Plus players like Davydenke are suddenly playing worse than before. Plus they might be a breakdown next year that we don't know yet.

Federer himself. His game has gone down a bit, just enough for the younger generation to sneak some wins. Federer has enough game to stay competitive in Slams. He will focus on the Slams. He will go deep. I am confident he will win one next year.

All this equals Federer rising up to down to 2 or 1 in the rankings at the conslusion of 2011. and then the question is, will he be ready to take Olypic gold in 2012.

Discuss :)

Manequin75
07-01-2010, 09:35 PM
inevitable. nothing to discuss here

ORGASMATRON
07-01-2010, 09:38 PM
i agree with this, but i want him to win more than just one more slam. i want him to keep winning slams into his 30's. but to do that he must adapt. he must not be stubborn and he must get a proper coach who can really help him with strategy against the ballbashers. that will do it in my opinion. but will he stop being stubborn?

ShotmaKer
07-01-2010, 09:38 PM
threads like this will certainly fire up his haters, now that's fact :lol: on topic, if he's got the brains to make adjustments to his game and stop being stubborn, he surely can stay competitive for a bit and especially at majors.

star
07-01-2010, 09:40 PM
I believe that Federer will rise in 2011.

Well, thank goodness you qualified that first sentence. ;)

A great relief.

I think Fed will float around the top of the game until he retires. I don't see him being like Jimmy Connors fighting his way through the draw at majors -- even though I think Federer would like to have that record too. He will always be a major threat in any tournament he chooses to enter.

Jills
07-01-2010, 09:44 PM
He'll rise from #35 in rankings to #33 when he wins a Challenger vs Wayne Odesnik.

ShotmaKer
07-01-2010, 09:49 PM
He'll rise from #35 in rankings to #33 when he wins a Challenger vs Wayne Odesnik.

and there comes the first. never in doubt.

octatennis
07-01-2010, 10:00 PM
move this thread to fed forum.


will or going to?


will express doubt and not certanity.

r2473
07-01-2010, 10:01 PM
He will focus on the Slams. He will go deep. I am confident he will win one next year.

He won one this year.

I guess you should have titled this thread

"Federer will do at least as well next year as he does this year. And even though nearly everyone else would kill for such a year, for Federer, it means he should retire"


But I guess that would have been kind of long

Orka_n
07-01-2010, 10:05 PM
He won one this year.

I guess you should have titled this thread

"Federer will do at least as well next year as he does this year. And even though nearly everyone else would kill for such a year, for Federer, it means he should retire"

But I guess that would have been kind of longIf you haven't realized it, this whole thread (both the title and the first post) is a play on Everko's "Federer will fall" - a thread made of fail and more fail.

l_mac
07-01-2010, 10:08 PM
I believe that Federer will rise in 2011. Up the rankings. I think the game is notcatching up to him, he is can still beat Players like Berdych and Söderling. Meanwhile Djokovic is struggling, Murray had a weak season and we all know Nadal will tough time this fall. I hate it but Del Potro will also be a non-factor. Plus players like Davydenke are suddenly playing worse than before. Plus they might be a breakdown next year that we don't know yet.

Federer himself. His game has gone down a bit, just enough for the younger generation to sneak some wins. Federer has enough game to stay competitive in Slams. He will focus on the Slams. He will go deep. I am confident he will win one next year.

All this equals Federer rising up to down to 2 or 1 in the rankings at the conslusion of 2011. and then the question is, will he be ready to take Olypic gold in 2012.

Discuss :)

Were you so desperate to post this that you sent from a phone?


edit: were you making fun of Everko's English? :lol: :lol: I don't read his posts/threads.

I don't know if Federer will win a Slam next year - I'd say it's more likely he will than will not. He's not winning Wimbledon 2010 though, and that is where my focus is. Maybe you should have posted this in the Fed forum :shrug: Can't be much to talk about there at the moment.

r2473
07-01-2010, 10:09 PM
If you haven't realized it, this whole thread (both the title and the first post) is a play on Everko's "Federer will fall" - a thread made of fail and more fail.


Ya, I get it. It isn't funny.

I was just pointing out that, if Fed wins one slam next year as the OP suggests, he won't have risen, but rather simply stayed steady.

ShotmaKer
07-01-2010, 10:10 PM
i remember when Sampras lost to Hewitt in the 2001 USO final, after losing to Safin one year earlier at the same stage, people started to seriously write him off. then he went to lose in the 1st round of Wimbledon to the mighty Bastl in 2002, and needless to say that the critics got louder. then he had a poor hardcourt season leading up to the USO but managed to win his last major nonetheless, without being the favorite no more. Rusedzki even said Sampras'd lose his next match after their 5 sets thriller in their R3 match and was that Sampras half a step slower. not saying that Federer will do the same though.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/tennis/2002/us_open/news/2002/09/03/sampras_statement_reut/

some funny comments in there.

star
07-01-2010, 10:13 PM
i remember when Sampras lost to Hewitt in the 2001 USO final, after losing to Safin one year earlier at the same stage, people started to seriously write him off. then he went to lose in the 1st round of Wimbledon to the mighty Bastl in 2002, and needless to say that the critics got louder. then he had a poor hardcourt season leading up to the USO but managed to win his last major nonetheless, without being the favorite no more. Rusedzki even said Sampras'd lose his next match after their 5 sets thriller in their R3 match and was that Sampras half a step slower. not saying that Federer will do the same though.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/tennis/2002/us_open/news/2002/09/03/sampras_statement_reut/

some funny comments in there.

Sampras and Agassi taught me never to write off a champion -- particularly not one with superior god given talent.

ORGASMATRON
07-01-2010, 10:21 PM
from federers presser:

Q. Will this make you hungrier to make you come back and show you can lift this title again?

ROGER FEDERER: Sure. God, I can't wait for Paris and Wimbledon to come around next year again, that's for sure.

Q. Do you feel you can get back to a position of domination in tennis?

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I do think that. That's why I'm here.

http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/interviews/2010-06-30/201006301277912137533.html

there is no doubt the GOAT will be back.

Johnny_Bravo
07-01-2010, 10:21 PM
the only thing that could rise about fed is his ranking number,which could inflate from 3 to 4,as murray is practically not defending that much during the up and coming us tour ;)

and we all know fed's defending a uso final with falla in R1 :cool:

Topspin Forehand
07-01-2010, 10:22 PM
Federer will fall. He is done. Might as well retire now as he will enjoy himself. For him to keep going, he will be humbled.

lazybear
07-01-2010, 10:47 PM
I think Roger has a lot of stored energy in him. I mean, the guy practically won half his slams with a beer tummy. He's only 29, that was an old age for sports 10, or 20 years ago, not today. Add his playing style, and i think it really only depends on him, whether he'll be able to turn this around, again... I don't think he got that old since january... He'll be back. He won't be as dominant as once was, but he'll win more slams, and those will be the most cherished ones for him, and for his fans. :)

Topspin Forehand
07-01-2010, 11:08 PM
I think Roger has a lot of stored energy in him. I mean, the guy practically won half his slams with a beer tummy. He's only 29, that was an old age for sports 10, or 20 years ago, not today. Add his playing style, and i think it really only depends on him, whether he'll be able to turn this around, again... I don't think he got that old since january... He'll be back. He won't be as dominant as once was, but he'll win more slams, and those will be the most cherished ones for him, and for his fans. :)
As proven, Federer always loses matches that require mental fortitude. He needs to be considerably better than his opponent to win. He is no longer that way.

betowiec
07-02-2010, 01:26 AM
yeah 2011 will be his best year ever, cannot wait to put 2010 behind
hopefully roger will start fresh and ready to go

oranges
07-02-2010, 09:41 AM
It was not fun of Everko's English, but of his OP in what is now already a legendary thread. I think it might be verbatim that OP, with just a change of directions fall-rise and the like :lol:

On a serious note, I highly doubt Federer will make continuous rise in the future, but he might have one or more flashes reminiscent of his best days

Commander Data
07-02-2010, 09:44 AM
Maybe you should have posted this in the Fed forum.

Only If the "Fed will fall" thread is moved there too.

I will report back in this thread at the appropriate time.


PS: You know me, I would never dare to mock other users.

Commander Data
07-02-2010, 10:00 AM
I'm serious: Fed will strike back!

Mimi
07-02-2010, 10:10 AM
I'm serious: Fed will strike back!

:hug::smooch: of course he will, my dear, I am not being sarcastic. He is not really bad actually, won a slam and has 16 slams.

Bargearse
07-02-2010, 10:25 AM
i agree with this, but i want him to win more than just one more slam. i want him to keep winning slams into his 30's. but to do that he must adapt. he must not be stubborn and he must get a proper coach who can really help him with strategy against the ballbashers. that will do it in my opinion. but will he stop being stubborn?

I've been thinking he should get himself a coach for ages, but I guess he doesn't want to listen to a coach anymore than he wants to accept that he cannot go toe to toe with the ballbashers. He obviously has so much more game than he has been displaying for the past year, but as you mentioned, he's too stubborn to adapt and use all of the tools he has at his disposal. If he persists with standing on the baseline & running around his backhand, I believe his ranking will continue to drop.

Sapeod
07-02-2010, 11:36 AM
Federer will definately rise again. He just needs to get some more practice and just needs to think he can win another GS. 2011 will be a great year for Roger.

Silvester
07-02-2010, 12:02 PM
Federer will definately rise again. He just needs to get some more practice and just needs to think he can win another GS. 2011 will be a great year for Roger.

I hope your right. I'd like to see him win at least one more wimby and 1-2 USO or Aussie, so 2-3 slams.

peribsen
07-02-2010, 12:32 PM
It's difficult to be sure of anything, but I believe Fed will get his 17th, very possibly a few more.
It would be great for tennis if Fed can keep it up a few more years. Guy is 28, far from 'old'. He's beyond his prime, but I don't see any reason why a player with his huge talent and good health shouldn´t be able to get big wins in his early 30s. It's been done by others, so why not Fed. And it would also mean Rafa could snatch a few more finals from the GOAT, beating lesser rivals is far less satisfactory.

Dimitra
07-02-2010, 12:36 PM
Can Federer face his soulwitch man??

dabeast
07-02-2010, 01:26 PM
It's difficult to be sure of anything, but I believe Fed will get his 17th, very possibly a few more.
It would be great for tennis if Fed can keep it up a few more years. Guy is 28, far from 'old'. He's beyond his prime, but I don't see any reason why a player with his huge talent and good health shouldn´t be able to get big wins in his early 30s. It's been done by others, so why not Fed. And it would also mean Rafa could snatch a few more finals from the GOAT, beating lesser rivals is far less satisfactory.

this guy is seriously the classiest Nadal fan i've seen so far. and that's saying something here on GM. Agree with u mate. :yeah:

viruzzz
07-02-2010, 01:32 PM
I hope so... Roger is the GOAT.
Still in a bad moment, he can kick so many asses.

jasmin
07-02-2010, 01:48 PM
Fed will have to do an Agassi and reinvent the wheel and I think he's more than capable of doing so.

Originally Posted by ORGASMATRON
i agree with this, but i want him to win more than just one more slam. i want him to keep winning slams into his 30's. but to do that he must adapt. he must not be stubborn and he must get a proper coach who can really help him with strategy against the ballbashers. that will do it in my opinion. but will he stop being stubborn?

I've been thinking he should get himself a coach for ages, but I guess he doesn't want to listen to a coach anymore than he wants to accept that he cannot go toe to toe with the ballbashers. He obviously has so much more game than he has been displaying for the past year, but as you mentioned, he's too stubborn to adapt and use all of the tools he has at his disposal. If he persists with standing on the baseline & running around his backhand, I believe his ranking will continue to drop.

I totally agree with these post. He's going to have to let go and realize what he needs to do.

kooties
07-02-2010, 02:02 PM
It's come full circle.

Fed revive your S&V!

M4RC
07-02-2010, 02:26 PM
from federers presser:





http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/interviews/2010-06-30/201006301277912137533.html

there is no doubt the GOAT will be back.

Humble as always this one :rolleyes:

megadeth
07-02-2010, 04:00 PM
wishful thinking... as long as he's stubborn, he will not rise, we will see his eventual demise (rhyme not intended)

i, for one, am ready to see the next generation and how they will fare against the ridiculous bar that fed has set

Polikarpov
07-02-2010, 06:21 PM
He will. Mirka is already laying out the plans and strategies for next year.

dmit424
07-02-2010, 06:23 PM
I believe that Federer will rise in 2011. Up the rankings. I think the game is notcatching up to him, he is can still beat Players like Berdych and Söderling. Meanwhile Djokovic is struggling, Murray had a weak season and we all know Nadal will tough time this fall. I hate it but Del Potro will also be a non-factor. Plus players like Davydenke are suddenly playing worse than before. Plus they might be a breakdown next year that we don't know yet.

Federer himself. His game has gone down a bit, just enough for the younger generation to sneak some wins. Federer has enough game to stay competitive in Slams. He will focus on the Slams. He will go deep. I am confident he will win one next year.

All this equals Federer rising up to down to 2 or 1 in the rankings at the conslusion of 2011. and then the question is, will he be ready to take Olypic gold in 2012.

Discuss :)

Glad you clarified that. I thought you meant in some kind of prophetical, supernatural way. :D

River
07-02-2010, 06:27 PM
Ehh...

Maybe.

FEDERERBEAUTY
07-02-2010, 06:29 PM
Yes, I have no doubt he will. 2 more slams without question. Anything else will be a bonus.

dmit424
07-02-2010, 06:33 PM
Yes, I have no doubt he will. 2 more slams without question. Anything else will be a bonus.

You mean a bonus to you, as a fan? Because I think to a competitor, in any walk way of life, there's never a time when they are satisfied and everything thereafter becomes simply a "bonus." Federer will never kick back and say, "Eh, I've won two more... Everything else now is a bonus!"

He's not Marat Safin, lol.

Everko
07-02-2010, 07:27 PM
this is too funny.

Polikarpov
07-02-2010, 07:33 PM
this is too funny.

Not as funny as your thread though.:sad:

Sunset of Age
07-02-2010, 08:19 PM
Haha. Fed, with his absymal results so far this year (apart from the AO, of course), will truly have to f*ck *p big time next year even more again, will he not be able to gain a couple of points at least.

Should that indeed happen, he's indeed done-and-dusted, but I guess he'll still have a bit of pride left in him and will try and make the best of it while he still can.

FEDERERBEAUTY
07-02-2010, 08:22 PM
[QUOTE=dmit424;10120650]You mean a bonus to you, as a fan? Because I think to a competitor, in any walk way of life, there's never a time when they are satisfied and everything thereafter becomes simply a "bonus." Federer will never kick back and say, "Eh, I've won two more... Everything else now is a bonus!"

QUOTE]

Yes, I do mean for me as a fan. Federer would never be satisfied and that's as it should be.

andylovesaustin
07-02-2010, 08:37 PM
from federers presser:





http://www.wimbledon.org/en_GB/news/interviews/2010-06-30/201006301277912137533.html

there is no doubt the GOAT will be back.

See.. that's why he's here or there.. to win tennis tournaments...

I just don't think this presser was all that bad...

Why people are getting all pissy, I don't know. :confused:

Swiss Mountain
07-10-2010, 08:09 PM
I have no idea about what will happen to Fed, but I am in disbeleive that some people can talk trash about Federer. crazy crazy world

FormerRafaFan
07-10-2010, 08:31 PM
There's no way Nadal can equal 2010 next year, so it's only a matter of time before Federer becomes #1 again imo. Perhaps he'll be on top again around this time next year. I do think Nadal will end this year as #1 though.

Swiss Mountain
07-10-2010, 10:31 PM
There's no way Nadal can equal 2010 next year, so it's only a matter of time before Federer becomes #1 again imo. Perhaps he'll be on top again around this time next year. I do think Nadal will end this year as #1 though.

I think so, unless, Del Potro come back to form; if so, Nadal cannot beat him, Del Potro strokes are too much for Rafa as you can always see.
Weird, but if not Federer, I would be happy for the cheater Nadal to be number one at the end, because of the long years he was at number two because Fed was so good nad can only be number two, for 4 years I think.

Fed can be proud, he was first when the biggest challenges and concurrence was up, now it's easier because the concurrence is so weak and the players are all the same, no single backhand, all backcourt, passing this and passing that... anyway, damn english, I hate this language!

hello serve & volley, are you dead?
-S&V : ...

Topspin Forehand
07-10-2010, 10:35 PM
I think so, unless, Del Potro come back to form; if so, Nadal cannot beat him, Del Potro strokes are too much for Rafa as you can always see.
Weird, but if not Federer, I would be happy for the cheater Nadal to be number one at the end, because of the long years he was at number two because Fed was so good nad can only be number two, for 4 years I think.

Fed can be proud, he was first when the biggest challenges and concurrence was up, now it's easier because the concurrence is so weak and the players are all the same, no single backhand, all backcourt, passing this and passing that... anyway, damn english, I hate this language!

hello serve & volley, are you dead?
-S&V : ...
Nadal can handle Del Potro. I assume it will take a year for Del Potro to get back to God mode. Anything less and Nadal will beat him.

Swiss Mountain
07-10-2010, 11:24 PM
ut Del Potro on top can crush nadal like last year.
Unless, lol, dare I say it? : Nadal got another excuse for always loose against him?

Sapeod
07-10-2010, 11:26 PM
ut Del Potro on top can crush nadal like last year.
Unless, lol, dare I say it? : Nadal got another excuse for always loose against him?
Yeah, he probably does. Wasn't he tired at Miami and US Open last year? :awww:

leng jai
07-10-2010, 11:28 PM
Nadal can handle Del Potro. I assume it will take a year for Del Potro to get back to God mode. Anything less and Nadal will beat him.

How can you get back to something you never had?

Sapeod
07-10-2010, 11:38 PM
this is too funny.
You really think that? :scratch:
BTW that joke thread that copied this one is not funny
Not as funny or absurd as your's :yeah:

Baghdatis72
07-11-2010, 12:09 AM
Federer will win a few more Grand Slams but he won't get to number 1 for many more weeks before he retires. His invinsibility is gone for good and the losses to the new players are too many to ignore. With some motivation he can raise his level for a while but it will become more scarce as time progresses.

Let's not forget that he's almost 29 years old and his best years are over.

Ibracadabra
07-11-2010, 12:42 AM
Del potro will stop this rise by completing the calendar slam in 2011.

DorianGray7
07-11-2010, 05:39 AM
Seriously?

Federer is almost a joke now. Losing out in the quarters at both Grand Slams esp. on his specialist surface: grass.

I can't imagine Federer winning any ATP 1000 tournaments let alone Grand Slams. Maybe if he didn't pretend he doesn't care about any tournaments other than grand slams and only try at GS to epically fail from a lack of practice and testing.

If Federer is losing out to people like Hewitt, Soldering, Beryech, he doesn't belong in the top 10. I think Roger's pitiful complete collapse this year proves that Nadal is the true GOAT and Roger was a pretender all along.

Rafa Nadal towers over everyone else so much right now, I think he can win the next FOUR GS in a row. He won at Wimbledon, he has a VERY GOOD shot at the USO, he won the Austrialian, and RO is already his to begin with.

Roger should go for ATP tournaments without Rafa and better yet retire before he makes even further embarrassment of himself. I mean I used to believe in this guy, what a waste. Now he's old and useless.

dabeast
07-11-2010, 07:22 AM
Seriously?

Federer is almost a joke now. Losing out in the quarters at both Grand Slams esp. on his specialist surface: grass.

I can't imagine Federer winning any ATP 1000 tournaments let alone Grand Slams. Maybe if he didn't pretend he doesn't care about any tournaments other than grand slams and only try at GS to epically fail from a lack of practice and testing.

If Federer is losing out to people like Hewitt, Soldering, Beryech, he doesn't belong in the top 10. I think Roger's pitiful complete collapse this year proves that Nadal is the true GOAT and Roger was a pretender all along.

Rafa Nadal towers over everyone else so much right now, I think he can win the next FOUR GS in a row. He won at Wimbledon, he has a VERY GOOD shot at the USO, he won the Austrialian, and RO is already his to begin with.

Roger should go for ATP tournaments without Rafa and better yet retire before he makes even further embarrassment of himself. I mean I used to believe in this guy, what a waste. Now he's old and useless.

you and cyrusking need to hook up :o

you spewed the same crap beginning of last year, and then Fed went on to win 3 more GS. make up your mind dude. that Oscar Wilde is just pissing in his grave now ..

ufiors
07-13-2010, 10:45 AM
I'll rise Roger!

ufiors
07-13-2010, 11:05 AM
I'll rise Roger!

And you!

JeffCandoi
07-13-2010, 11:20 AM
you have to know something

haters and realistics are different people.. but have the same idea now :lol:

Forehander
07-14-2010, 08:28 AM
abracadabra!

Everko
09-15-2010, 04:32 PM
Not going to happen. Only wishful dreams it might

JolánGagó
09-15-2010, 04:34 PM
Never, he's finished now.

Hellraiser
09-15-2010, 08:17 PM
Fedex won't rise when he is saying that "his era finished" to journalist.

He is falling slowly but straight from AO 2009 it was time when he was unbeatable in NY and Basel when he fall there it was clear for me he will go deeper and deeper in loses or difficult matches f.e. (with Clement, Serra, Hanescu) maybe when he win in Basel this year it will be a little good prognostic before season 2011 but it could be not enough.