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Nadal will Fall

Silvester
07-01-2010, 03:36 PM
Before he hits the Age of 28 Nadal will fall out of the top 5.

scarecrows
07-01-2010, 03:41 PM
fair thread

Sauletekis
07-01-2010, 03:45 PM
It's more like a FAIL thread...

Silvester
07-01-2010, 03:46 PM
might even be earlier. He's pulling out of Davis cup because of knee soreness again. How much longer are they going to hold up? Even with his reduced schedule they are getting sore and there's still the upcoming hardcourt season. It will tell in what kind of shape he is in I think by the end of the USO. He almost lost at wimby early on just like Federer, people will start to figure out ways of beating him sooner rather than later.

enigma
07-01-2010, 03:48 PM
:angel:

Silvester
07-01-2010, 03:49 PM
It's more like a FAIL thread...

was worth a try I guess.

henke007
07-01-2010, 03:51 PM
The HC season will sure be tough on Rafa's knees and he is only 24

Ivo#1Fan
07-01-2010, 03:51 PM
Nadal will be year end #1 even if he doesn't play the hard court season. Every year he could just play the clay and grass seasons and then take 6 months off to rest/practice and he'd still easily maintain top 5 ranking.

scarecrows
07-01-2010, 03:56 PM
Nadal will be year end #1 even if he doesn't play the hard court season. Every year he could just play the clay and grass seasons and then take 6 months off to rest/practice and he'd still easily maintain top 5 ranking.

but can he keep winning all clay tournaments he plays?

@Sweet Cleopatra
07-01-2010, 03:56 PM
You are Pathetic, he is no1 won RG, reached Wimbledon semi final and you are talking about "fall".

And you want us to wait 4 years till we know you are right or wrong?

Any way I dont like the same thread about Federer from Everko and I understand why it makes Federer fans think all Nadal fans are haters. But I am not, I respect Federer so much.

Silvester
07-01-2010, 04:02 PM
Nadal will be year end #1 even if he doesn't play the hard court season. Every year he could just play the clay and grass seasons and then take 6 months off to rest/practice and he'd still easily maintain top 5 ranking.

He won't keep winning everything on Clay, His time will come just like everyone elses. It'll be interesting to see how Del Potro does once he's back from his injury, if he can come back at the end of this season that gives him some time to get back into the groove before AO and then Clay season.

Silvester
07-01-2010, 04:05 PM
You are Pathetic, he is no1 won RG, reached Wimbledon semi final and you are talking about "fall".



[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Any way I dont like the same thread about Federer [COLOR="Orange"]from Everko and I understand why it makes Federer fans think all Nadal fans are haters. But I am not, I respect Federer so much.


Federer won AO and made quarter finals of other 2 GS so he's not that far behind Nadal however everyone thinks this is just HOrrible of Federer. If Nadal wins 1 GS and makes it past Quarters then it's fantastic.

Federer simply raised the bar too high and everyone is Still in shock when he doesn't win. When will people realize that making the Quarters or Semi's really isn't all that bad for a player of his age.

peribsen
07-01-2010, 04:07 PM
Eventually, of course, like everyone else.
But we'll enjoy the ride till the time comes, jeje.

TennisOnWood
07-01-2010, 04:09 PM
Federer won AO and made quarter finals of other 2 GS so he's not that far behind Nadal however everyone thinks this is just HOrrible of Federer. If Nadal wins 1 GS and makes it past Quarters then it's fantastic.

Federer simply raised the bar too high and everyone is Still in shock when he doesn't win. When will people realize that making the Quarters or Semi's really isn't all that bad for a player of his age.

Well.. of course

Rafa won 4 titles in some 2 months and Fed needed whole 2009. for that

Rafa is 2500 points clear of him and he can still win Wimbledon and makes it even bigger

And you can check how many points they won in 2010... nothing close between this two this season

10is-
07-01-2010, 04:09 PM
Eventually, of course, like everyone else.
But we'll enjoy the ride when the time comes, jeje.

i fix for u...jejeje

Johnny Groove
07-01-2010, 04:09 PM
What a bold prediction.

Silvester
07-01-2010, 04:12 PM
Well.. of course

Rafa won 4 titles in some 2 months and Fed needed whole 2009. for that

Rafa is 2500 points clear of him and he can still win Wimbledon and makes it even bigger

And you can check how many points they won in 2010... nothing close between this two this season

good point, and Nadal is pretty much guaranteed year end #1 This year.

I just find it ridiculous in general..that when Federer "Only" wins 1 GS and makes it relativly deep in the others that this is just horrid. How happy do you think a Murray fan, or a Djokovic fan, Roddick fan etc would be if those guys won a major.

Fed COULD still win USO - he may not, he may. so he could potentiall still win 50% of the GS's in 2010. Would that be so bad?
I guess for Federer fans because we are so used to him being #1 it is odd, and it gives all the Federer haters some ammo but in reality, it's ridiculous to give someone that is #2 or #3 in the WORLD a hard time because A LOT of players would love to be there.

@Sweet Cleopatra
07-01-2010, 04:14 PM
Federer won AO and made quarter finals of other 2 GS so he's not that far behind Nadal however everyone thinks this is just HOrrible of Federer. If Nadal wins 1 GS and makes it past Quarters then it's fantastic.

Federer simply raised the bar too high and everyone is Still in shock when he doesn't win. When will people realize that making the Quarters or Semi's really isn't all that bad for a player of his age.

I didn't say any thing bad about Federer :confused:

But I don't think it is the age in term of being in fatigue and etc, I think it is just so late for him to accommodate and train for certain types of players and he shouldn't imo, he has done every thing in tennis, has 2 cute babies, a happy life and millions. Why would he torture himself?

Rafaspin
07-01-2010, 04:17 PM
Nadal will win two slams per year until he is 29. When you add that to the 8 he'll have by sunday sunset - that's 16. :yeah:

TennisOnWood
07-01-2010, 04:22 PM
good point, and Nadal is pretty much guaranteed year end #1 This year.

I just find it ridiculous in general..that when Federer "Only" wins 1 GS and makes it relativly deep in the others that this is just horrid. How happy do you think a Murray fan, or a Djokovic fan, Roddick fan etc would be if those guys won a major.

Fed COULD still win USO - he may not, he may. so he could potentiall still win 50% of the GS's in 2010. Would that be so bad?
I guess for Federer fans because we are so used to him being #1 it is odd, and it gives all the Federer haters some ammo but in reality, it's ridiculous to give someone that is #2 or #3 in the WORLD a hard time because A LOT of players would love to be there.

Yes.. well deserved Year end Number 1!!

I wasn't saying anything against Fed and that he had bad season.. full respect to him and he is the only player on the Tour I compare with Rafa cause I don't give a shit about Murray,A Rod,Soderling,or bloody djokovic and davidenko.. Fed and Rafa are true big deal for the last 6 seasons and all I'm saying is that,outside that Melbourne,Fed did very poor job. Completely disaster in Indian and Miami with match points wasted,skipping Monaco,poor Rome and then he finally started to play in Madrid when he needed to defend a lot of points. His plan failed and then we saw what happen in Paris,Halle and yesterday in London. It is just himself to blame for stopping on 285 weeks at top

But I agree with you.. wherever he and Rafa are on the ATP list (Delpo once again made position with not a single match in 5 months) they are just players to watch IMO

Silvester
07-01-2010, 04:22 PM
Cleo - no you didn't. but look at all the other threads around here that do. It's simly ridiculous. I wasn't here at the time, but how was it a year ago when Nadal was sitting at #4. It just seems like everyone WANTS Federer to fail and makes a huge deal out of it when he doesn't win even though it's simply going to be a natural occurance.

RafaSpin - Bold prediction. Is he capable? probably, however he would need to stay Healthy and schedule Very wisely. All depends on the other young players.

scarecrows
07-01-2010, 04:23 PM
Nadal will win two slams per year until he is 29. When you add that to the 8 he'll have by sunday sunset - that's 16. :yeah:

i wouldnt count on it

moonlightdance
07-01-2010, 04:23 PM
i think your statement is true of most top players, not just nadal. props to fed for staying at the absolute top for so long with the good health and all, but it isn't as though the top 5 positions are almost always 28+ guys.

@Sweet Cleopatra
07-01-2010, 04:27 PM
Cleo - no you didn't. but look at all the other threads around here that do. It's simly ridiculous. I wasn't here at the time, but how was it a year ago when Nadal was sitting at #4. It just seems like everyone WANTS Federer to fail and makes a huge deal out of it when he doesn't win even though it's simply going to be a natural occurance.

RafaSpin - Bold prediction. Is he capable? probably, however he would need to stay Healthy and schedule Very wisely. All depends on the other young players.

They trashed Nadal last year and said he is done and will never win a slam again. The forum is full of harsh people. You will get used to it. And don't worry about Federer, he is a multi millionaire with countless championships. :hug:

Sapeod
07-01-2010, 04:29 PM
Nadal will win two slams per year until he is 29. When you add that to the 8 he'll have by sunday sunset - that's 16. :yeah:
No, he won't win 16 slams.

And he will fall before he reaches 29 years old. Count on it.

Silvester
07-01-2010, 04:31 PM
well then those people were stupid. Nadal was injured, not dead. It was obvious that he was going to heal and come back.

ORGASMATRON
07-01-2010, 04:31 PM
You are Pathetic, he is no1 won RG, reached Wimbledon semi final and you are talking about "fall".

And you want us to wait 4 years till we know you are right or wrong?

Any way I dont like the same thread about Federer from Everko and I understand why it makes Federer fans think all Nadal fans are haters. But I am not, I respect Federer so much.

nadal will fall. it is a fact. in the words of old sport clay death: 'time wounds all heels', but in this case i would change that to 'time wounds all knees' ;)

born_on_clay
07-01-2010, 05:10 PM
Before he hits the Age of 28 Nadal will fall out of the top 5.

what a moron from you :o
do we need to have a "XXX will fall" threads of every player ???
Maybe I'll start doing it...

born_on_clay
07-01-2010, 05:11 PM
Nadal will win two slams per year until he is 29. When you add that to the 8 he'll have by sunday sunset - that's 16. :yeah:

affirmative
he's a monster
I love all the haters going mad, cause that means Rafa's on top :worship:

ossie
07-01-2010, 05:12 PM
this thread will fall harder

Priam
07-01-2010, 05:27 PM
Thanks for pointing out the obvious. See you in 4 years.

You don't need a thread for this.

born_on_clay
07-01-2010, 05:30 PM
Federer will fall, Nadal will fall, Murray,Nole,Soderling should retire, Davydenko and del Potro won't come back after injuries
and Oscar Hernandez will become world no.1
MTF logic :o

green25814
07-01-2010, 05:53 PM
These kind of threads are mindblowingly stupid.

ORGASMATRON
07-01-2010, 06:01 PM
this thread will fall harder

Thanks for pointing out the obvious. See you in 4 years.

You don't need a thread for this.

These kind of threads are mindblowingly stupid.

i dont like these retarded threads any more than you do. if i had my way everko's original fail thread would have been crushed by the mods at first site, but it was allowed to continue. therefore it would be double standards if this thread is quashed. it must be allowed to run its course.

Federer will fall, Nadal will fall, Murray,Nole,Soderling should retire, Davydenko and del Potro won't come back after injuries
and Oscar Hernandez will become world no.1
MTF logic :o

well said old sport. its a colossal failure to say the least.

delpiero7
07-01-2010, 06:02 PM
What a pointless thread. EVERY sportsperson 'falls' eventually, as sure as night follows day.

But at this time last year many Nadal haters were rubbing their hands together in the anticipation that Nadal was almost finished right then.

Yet 12 months later, he has won more matches and titles than anyone this year, and has regained the number 1 spot having fallen to 3 a few weeks earlier. (So there is still hope for Federer fans!)

I'm sure if he wins a couple more majors in the next few years, he won't be too disappointed when his knees finally crumble, going down as one of the best players in the history of the game - regardless of whatever you think of his style of play.

green25814
07-01-2010, 06:04 PM
i dont like these retarded threads any more than you do. if i had my way everko's original fail thread would have been crushed by the mods at first site, but it was allowed to continue. therefore it would be double standards if this thread is quashed. it must be allowed to run its course.


Agreed, but why would you want to bring yourself down to the level of Everko? :o

ORGASMATRON
07-01-2010, 06:10 PM
Agreed, but why would you want to bring yourself down to the level of Everko? :o

if you are talking about the OP i couldnt agree more with your old sport. even though i hate everko's thread i would never stoop so low as to start a thread to counter it. i would never sink myself to the level where sewer rats dwell.

brent-o
07-01-2010, 06:10 PM
Nadal will win two slams per year until he is 29. When you add that to the 8 he'll have by sunday sunset - that's 16. :yeah:

Unlikely, but still could you imagine how much that would piss off Federer fans? They'd never accept it.

EDIT: Sorry, I should specify not all Federer fans, but the ones who hate Nadal.

M4RC
07-01-2010, 07:19 PM
Your point is based on wild speculation, so I feel free to speculate as well.

1) If Nadal had to retire at 28 he would had remained 11 years as an elite tennis player. He could feel very well satisfied, with or without knee issues.

2) At the age of 22 Nadal had already accomplished everything that can be accomplished in men's professional tennis: several slams on 3 different surfaces, a bunch of M1000, several Davis Cups, Olympics Gold in singles and world #1.

3) Apart from that, he will always be remembered as Federer's nemesis, the one that prevented him to increase his legacy, the one that won 2/3 matches against him, the one that defeated him in 3/4 slam finals (including surfaces like hard and grass where Federer is considerered one of the greatest ever to play on them). He will always be remembered as the dominator between the two in his rivalry against probably the best player to ever play the game.

4) He is not the pigeon of any other player, and he has not a differential of -2 in his H2H against any other player. He is probably one of the toughest players to beat ever and probably the best ever at the mental department. His defense and movement while fit and healthy is also unparalleled. He also has the best records while playing 5-setters.

5) That facts alone are impressive, but he also possesses the best records, stats and streaks ever achieved on clay. He is an extremely great player overall but has also mastered to near perfection his game on clay (he is considered the best ever on the surface by many).

Now let's speculate:

6) If Nadal wins another Wimbledon (quite likely to happen this year), 1 USO and two more RG he'd have 11 Slams, including 7 RG (the absolute clay GOAT forever), 2 Wimbledons, 1 AO and 1 USO. That means he would complete the Career Golden Slam including at least a couple of slams on every surface. Has any other player of the Open Era ever achieved it? Not even Federer.

7) If Nadal wins two more M1000 he would have 20. None of the current pro players are going to win more than 10-12 (at their very best) overall.

I don't need him to be considered the GOAT (and he won't) and I'm perfectly fine with his current career (it's TOP-10 right now), but if he manages to win 1 Wimbly (this year he has a very good chance), 1 USO (I have the feeling he'll have a shot this year or in 2011), 2 RG (HEAVY, and I mean HEAVY favourite) and 2 M1000 (quite likely to happen in 2010) then he'd have one of the best overall careers including the Golden Slam (not to forget he achieved the Olympic Gold on a fast hardcourt) with 2+ of slams on every surface (one-dimensional dirt moonballer, anyone?), 20 M1000, at least 3 Davis Cups, clayGOAT status for ages and the edge of the rivalry between him and Federer.

PS. Federer is great and 16>7. I'm just pointing that Nadal has nothing left to prove in tennis and he could well retire today and be remembered as a legend in the game (the same goes for Federer, obviously).

A_Skywalker
07-01-2010, 07:27 PM
Nadal will fall when he has 70 tournaments won, not more GS than Federer though.

DuMa
07-01-2010, 07:32 PM
i will bump this thread in 5 years. no less

born_on_clay
07-01-2010, 09:00 PM
Your point is based on wild speculation, so I feel free to speculate as well.

1) If Nadal had to retire at 28 he would had remained 11 years as an elite tennis player. He could feel very well satisfied, with or without knee issues.

2) At the age of 22 Nadal had already accomplished everything that can be accomplished in men's professional tennis: several slams on 3 different surfaces, a bunch of M1000, several Davis Cups, Olympics Gold in singles and world #1.

3) Apart from that, he will always be remembered as Federer's nemesis, the one that prevented him to increase his legacy, the one that won 2/3 matches against him, the one that defeated him in 3/4 slam finals (including surfaces like hard and grass where Federer is considerered one of the greatest ever to play on them). He will always be remembered as the dominator between the two in his rivalry against probably the best player to ever play the game.

4) He is not the pigeon of any other player, and he has not a differential of -2 in his H2H against any other player. He is probably one of the toughest players to beat ever and probably the best ever at the mental department. His defense and movement while fit and healthy is also unparalleled. He also has the best records while playing 5-setters.

5) That facts alone are impressive, but he also possesses the best records, stats and streaks ever achieved on clay. He is an extremely great player overall but has also mastered to near perfection his game on clay (he is considered the best ever on the surface by many).

Now let's speculate:

6) If Nadal wins another Wimbledon (quite likely to happen this year), 1 USO and two more RG he'd have 11 Slams, including 7 RG (the absolute clay GOAT forever), 2 Wimbledons, 1 AO and 1 USO. That means he would complete the Career Golden Slam including at least a couple of slams on every surface. Has any other player of the Open Era ever achieved it? Not even Federer.

7) If Nadal wins two more M1000 he would have 20. None of the current pro players are going to win more than 10-12 (at their very best) overall.

I don't need him to be considered the GOAT (and he won't) and I'm perfectly fine with his current career (it's TOP-10 right now), but if he manages to win 1 Wimbly (this year he has a very good chance), 1 USO (I have the feeling he'll have a shot this year or in 2011), 2 RG (HEAVY, and I mean HEAVY favourite) and 2 M1000 (quite likely to happen in 2010) then he'd have one of the best overall careers including the Golden Slam (not to forget he achieved the Olympic Gold on a fast hardcourt) with 2+ of slams on every surface (one-dimensional dirt moonballer, anyone?), 20 M1000, at least 3 Davis Cups, clayGOAT status for ages and the edge of the rivalry between him and Federer.

PS. Federer is great and 16>7. I'm just pointing that Nadal has nothing left to prove in tennis and he could well retire today and be remembered as a legend in the game (the same goes for Federer, obviously).

great analysis :worship:

btw. every player is finally gonna fall (read: retire) = this thread is stupid !

Manequin75
07-01-2010, 09:37 PM
nadal will fall surely.....to the ground on his back like he always does when he wins a slam this sunday.

octatennis
07-01-2010, 10:13 PM
everko's thread was funny, this is a cheap copy.

and yes, rafa will fall.

Topspin Forehand
07-01-2010, 10:24 PM
Agreed. Nadal needs to quit hard court altogther. Otherwise his knee will be done.

ORGASMATRON
07-01-2010, 10:27 PM
if nadal keeps playing on hard he will fall at 26, if not then 28. he must give up hopes of completing the career slam. he isnt winning the USO anyway. he should be satisfied with becoming the clay GOAT.

NadalSharapova
07-01-2010, 10:31 PM
by 28 he'll have at least 16 grand slams

ORGASMATRON
07-01-2010, 10:33 PM
by 28 he'll have at least 16 grand slams

negative.

next.

Topspin Forehand
07-01-2010, 10:35 PM
if nadal keeps playing on hard he will fall at 26, if not then 28. he must give up hopes of completing the career slam. he isnt winning the USO anyway. he should be satisfied with becoming the clay GOAT.
Agreed. He doesn't see that unfortunately. He thinks tendinitis is a fluke. :(

osmonde
07-01-2010, 11:17 PM
Nadal has already 40 titles under his belt, he may surpass Federer on that level.

Another record that will be hard to beat for a while:

3 Masters in a row, no one has never did that before in modern era.

Wolfy
07-01-2010, 11:22 PM
He falled last year
so not anytime soon.

Bazooka
07-01-2010, 11:59 PM
Nadal is not more fragile or injure-prone than the rest. We just pay more attention to him. Murray had wrist problems and has had a horrible run, Djokovic his allergic problems and a horrible past year too, Federer says himself he has back trouble and is nearly 30, Denko and Delpo out for months for injury, Tsonga injured half his career... and this guy is able to play more matches than anyone else this year, winning all the latest important tournaments, and he is suposed to be ready for retirement?

And about retiring from hardcourt, and not winning the USO ever, keep wishing :P One month rest after Wimby is enough, then maybe tanking/skipping Cinci. He will eventually win one of the next 3-4 USO. What he should really skip is all the stupid sanghai/beijing stuff.

brent-o
07-02-2010, 12:52 AM
if nadal keeps playing on hard he will fall at 26, if not then 28. he must give up hopes of completing the career slam. he isnt winning the USO anyway. he should be satisfied with becoming the clay GOAT.

He's made it to the semis twice. No chance at all there? Seriously?

Silvester
07-02-2010, 01:25 AM
He's made it to the semis twice. No chance at all there? Seriously?

This year might be his best chance or maybe next. After that I think it gets slimmer and slimmer. There is however a good chance that Federer will be in his half of the draw this year which makes for an interesting semi-final if they both make it.

Mimi
07-02-2010, 06:57 AM
of course he will, every player will. He already exceeded my estimation by winning 7 slams and 40 titles, I am very satisfied:cool:

Another RogFan
07-02-2010, 07:47 AM
by 28 he'll have at least 16 grand slams

Drugs can kill you!

Danni John
07-02-2010, 08:20 AM
Rafa is just a legend he is unbeatable

how dare you say so?

A_Skywalker
07-02-2010, 08:20 AM
Drugs can kill you!

AnotherRogFan, I guess you dont have imagination to choose that nick.

Gêmeos
07-02-2010, 08:22 AM
Rafa is just a legend he is unbeatable

how dare you say so?

纳天神V5

Danni John
07-02-2010, 08:25 AM
纳天神V5

纳天神天神神力 神功盖世;)

Gêmeos
07-02-2010, 08:27 AM
纳天神天神神力 神功盖世;)

crazy...

Mimi
07-02-2010, 09:07 AM
纳天神天神神力 神功盖世;)

oh god, you are Chinese? :D:wavey:

yeah, Rafa 武功蓋世 :cool:

Danni John
07-02-2010, 09:24 AM
oh god, you are Chinese? :D:wavey:

yeah, Rafa 武功蓋世 :cool:

No, I am a Swedish who has learned Chinese by myself

Rafa is so talented and so strong that no one can beat him Except himself;)

Mimi
07-02-2010, 09:32 AM
No, I am a Swedish who has learned Chinese by myself

Rafa is so talented and so strong that no one can beat him Except himself;)

oh god, you learnt Chinese yourself, what a genius, I thought Chinese is a difficult language for Western people as the words involve so many strokes :bowdown::bowdown:

是的,但 Murray 也打得很好,我很害怕他會輸因為他一輸,恨他的網友就會全面攻擊他:mad::explode :

coonster14
07-02-2010, 09:35 AM
age catches up to every player, so of course he will fall in the rankings.

but he will always be remembered for all his incredible achievements, one of the greatest players on clay, he has won slams on all three surfaces, beating Federer in grand slam finals on so many occasions, won Davis Cup twice (and counting...), not to mention Olympic Gold in singles (beat Djokovic in the SF who is a nightmare of a match-up for him on a fast HC). if he wins the US Open, he achieves the Career Golden Slam (only Agassi has achieved this so far).

i could care less if he is ranked outside the top 50, top 100 in 5 years time, he will always be my favourite player, and will be remembered by many as Federer's arch rival.

Danni John
07-02-2010, 09:40 AM
oh god, you learnt Chinese yourself, what a genius, I thought Chinese is a difficult language for Western people as the words involve so many strokes :bowdown::bowdown:

是的,但 Murray 也打得很好,我很害怕他會輸因為他一輸,恨他的網友就會全面攻擊他:mad::explode :

Murray just tries his best

he has already defended all his points so he can just enjoy his game

However rafa is the more favored

Chinese is a unique Language as well as it is such a beautiful one:):)

Mimi
07-02-2010, 09:44 AM
Murray just tries his best

he has already defended all his points so he can just enjoy his game

However rafa is the more favored

Chinese is a unique Language as well as it is such a beautiful one:):)
thank you, thats true, though I am not very patriotic, but I do think Chinese is a very unique language as just one word can contain the deepest meanings:wavey:.

Gêmeos
07-02-2010, 09:45 AM
Murray just tries his best

he has already defended all his points so he can just enjoy his game

However rafa is the more favored

Chinese is a unique Language as well as it is such a beautiful one:):)

In fact Murray is under the great pressure of the British crowd

Mimi
07-02-2010, 09:46 AM
In fact Murray is under the great pressure of the British crowd

I hope the queen is going to watch this match so that murray will get nervous and allow rafa more chance to win :devil::devil:

Danni John
07-02-2010, 09:48 AM
thank you, thats true, though I am not very patriotic, but I do think Chinese is a very unique language as just one word can contain the deepest meanings:wavey:.

:(that is the most difficult part of Chinese

however I will try my best

and good luck to both Legend Rafa and Cute Andy:)

Mimi
07-02-2010, 10:03 AM
:(that is the most difficult part of Chinese

however I will try my best

and good luck to both Legend Rafa and Cute Andy:)
you are already very good, i don't know a Swedish word
:o

NADALbULLS
07-02-2010, 10:03 AM
I hope the queen is going to watch this match so that murray will get nervous and allow rafa more chance to win :devil::devil:

The Queen will be a bigger Nadal fan than Shakira when tis over :o

Mimi
07-02-2010, 10:07 AM
The Queen will be a bigger Nadal fan than Shakira when tis over :o

of course, Rafa is way more successful than Shakira :nerner:

lazybear
07-02-2010, 10:21 AM
Your point is based on wild speculation, so I feel free to speculate as well.

1) If Nadal had to retire at 28 he would had remained 11 years as an elite tennis player. He could feel very well satisfied, with or without knee issues.

2) At the age of 22 Nadal had already accomplished everything that can be accomplished in men's professional tennis: several slams on 3 different surfaces, a bunch of M1000, several Davis Cups, Olympics Gold in singles and world #1.

3) Apart from that, he will always be remembered as Federer's nemesis, the one that prevented him to increase his legacy, the one that won 2/3 matches against him, the one that defeated him in 3/4 slam finals (including surfaces like hard and grass where Federer is considerered one of the greatest ever to play on them). He will always be remembered as the dominator between the two in his rivalry against probably the best player to ever play the game.

4) He is not the pigeon of any other player, and he has not a differential of -2 in his H2H against any other player. He is probably one of the toughest players to beat ever and probably the best ever at the mental department. His defense and movement while fit and healthy is also unparalleled. He also has the best records while playing 5-setters.

5) That facts alone are impressive, but he also possesses the best records, stats and streaks ever achieved on clay. He is an extremely great player overall but has also mastered to near perfection his game on clay (he is considered the best ever on the surface by many).

Now let's speculate:

6) If Nadal wins another Wimbledon (quite likely to happen this year), 1 USO and two more RG he'd have 11 Slams, including 7 RG (the absolute clay GOAT forever), 2 Wimbledons, 1 AO and 1 USO. That means he would complete the Career Golden Slam including at least a couple of slams on every surface. Has any other player of the Open Era ever achieved it? Not even Federer.

7) If Nadal wins two more M1000 he would have 20. None of the current pro players are going to win more than 10-12 (at their very best) overall.

I don't need him to be considered the GOAT (and he won't) and I'm perfectly fine with his current career (it's TOP-10 right now), but if he manages to win 1 Wimbly (this year he has a very good chance), 1 USO (I have the feeling he'll have a shot this year or in 2011), 2 RG (HEAVY, and I mean HEAVY favourite) and 2 M1000 (quite likely to happen in 2010) then he'd have one of the best overall careers including the Golden Slam (not to forget he achieved the Olympic Gold on a fast hardcourt) with 2+ of slams on every surface (one-dimensional dirt moonballer, anyone?), 20 M1000, at least 3 Davis Cups, clayGOAT status for ages and the edge of the rivalry between him and Federer.

PS. Federer is great and 16>7. I'm just pointing that Nadal has nothing left to prove in tennis and he could well retire today and be remembered as a legend in the game (the same goes for Federer, obviously).

Wow, that's a surprisingly good, and even somewhat unbiased post from you. Well done.

NADALbULLS
07-02-2010, 12:13 PM
of course, Rafa is way more successful than Shakira :nerner:

I see :worship: what you :worship: did there :worship:

RafaTheBest
07-02-2010, 02:03 PM
might even be earlier. He's pulling out of Davis cup because of knee soreness again. How much longer are they going to hold up? Even with his reduced schedule they are getting sore and there's still the upcoming hardcourt season. It will tell in what kind of shape he is in I think by the end of the USO. He almost lost at wimby early on just like Federer, people will start to figure out ways of beating him sooner rather than later.

Wow, this proves what a moron you are. He isn't pulling out of DC due to soreness. He's pulling out to lighten his schedule before the USO because he desperately wants to complete that career GS and that's all he cares about after Wimby this year. Fucking idiots this board has.

@Sweet Cleopatra
07-02-2010, 02:15 PM
No, I am a Swedish who has learned Chinese by myself

Rafa is so talented and so strong that no one can beat him Except himself;)

omg I want to learn Chinese too, how to do it.

abraxas21
10-15-2011, 05:04 AM
:cheerleader:

paseo
10-15-2011, 05:09 AM
These "will fall" threads are good investments. Cause you're bound to be right eventually.

MuzzahLovah
10-15-2011, 05:37 AM
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Paylu2007
10-15-2011, 06:17 AM
Nadal will be year end #1 even if he doesn't play the hard court season. Every year he could just play the clay and grass seasons and then take 6 months off to rest/practice and he'd still easily maintain top 5 ranking.

This seems hopeless now,dunno why... :rolleyes: :wavey:

GSMnadal
10-15-2011, 06:57 AM
This seems hopeless now,dunno why... :rolleyes: :wavey:

The second part is still true :shrug: