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Federer:"I am injured. If I’m healthy, I can handle these guys,” (Berdych resp. #57)

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ys
06-30-2010, 05:42 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aN0zzXUaKEZs

scarecrows
06-30-2010, 05:47 PM
yea, pathetic bullshit from him once again

scoobs
06-30-2010, 05:48 PM
This is not classy.

Certinfy
06-30-2010, 05:49 PM
Yep, just like he handled Berdych in Miami.

Aloevera
06-30-2010, 05:49 PM
Given his reputation, I believe he's not lying. He can't deny that basically he's aging.

Sunset of Age
06-30-2010, 05:51 PM
Pretty sour, indeed. :(
Hey, Feds, when was the last time that we saw you "healthy", then? Back in January, at the AO? :rolleyes:

Dimitra
06-30-2010, 05:51 PM
He said it like he felt it and he was at least honest.

But as a Fedfan I don't like to hear this and find it classless.

solowyn
06-30-2010, 05:51 PM
Roger :ras: Disappointing quote.

Sunset of Age
06-30-2010, 05:51 PM
He said it like he felt it and he was at least honest.

But as a Fedfan I don't like to hear this and find it classless.

Exactly.

Orka_n
06-30-2010, 05:52 PM
:haha: Roger, you need to quiet down and give Birdie some credit.

Arkulari
06-30-2010, 05:52 PM
Given his reputation, I believe he's not lying. He can't deny that basically he's aging.

This, before he could handle those guys with ease (hence the pigeon, turkey status of guys who are beating him right now)

What I don't agree with is the lack of credit for the way Berdych played, he was brilliant in both defense and attack and got his head together

Sometimes Roger should just shut up, his racket isn't up to back his talking, so it's better to stay low and quiet :o

Langers
06-30-2010, 05:52 PM
Mono? Check.
Lung infection? Check.
Bad back? Check.

What next? :yeah:

allpro
06-30-2010, 05:52 PM
typical federer. arrogance without end :rolleyes:

Chair Umpire
06-30-2010, 05:54 PM
Rogie, using your own words: If you're not fit enough, just get out of there.

lazybear
06-30-2010, 05:54 PM
Well, yeah, that's not classy, even if he's right.

piksi
06-30-2010, 05:54 PM
:hysteric::hysteric::hysteric:

River
06-30-2010, 05:55 PM
For such a great player like Fed... hell, the greatest of all time... he sure is an idiot right now.

tennishero
06-30-2010, 05:56 PM
shut up and retire, ur time is over.

M4RC
06-30-2010, 05:56 PM
Nid.

Sapeod
06-30-2010, 05:57 PM
What a legend Federer is :haha: Atleast he's honest :yeah:

Kworb
06-30-2010, 05:58 PM
Nothing wrong with what he said. He said he played well, but Berdych played even better. :shrug: And then he explained why he's not 100%.

Aloevera
06-30-2010, 05:59 PM
This, before he could handle those guys with ease (hence the pigeon, turkey status of guys who are beating him right now)

What I don't agree with is the lack of credit for the way Berdych played, he was brilliant in both defense and attack and got his head together

Sometimes Roger should just shut up, his racket isn't up to back his talking, so it's better to stay low and quiet :o

True. But he might already know what people think about him after today's loss. :lol:

Refer to another thread here about Fed's last 3 slam losses. He's just answering a question basically... I don't regard it as being classless that easily.

CescAndyKimi
06-30-2010, 05:59 PM
Lol what a classless tit. Always hated this guy for his arrogance. Yeah or mnaybe you're just old and useless now.

The Magician
06-30-2010, 05:59 PM
This is absolutely right, but also comes across as classless and bitter. Basically the inevitable consequence of having press conferences right after the match when the players are still upset and don't have time to come up with the polite answers :o Fed you should be handling the press better after so many years :(

Dimitra
06-30-2010, 05:59 PM
Rogie, using your own words: If you're not fit enough, just get out of there.

This.

But at least he's honest.

philosophicalarf
06-30-2010, 06:00 PM
Federer has always been pretty honest when asked questions, but he should be aware this will be seen as disrespectful (which I doubt he intends).

Pfloyd
06-30-2010, 06:00 PM
Well now we can see that putting any player on a pedastal is bound to dissapoint.

Why? They are human.

This was bad from Fed.

Ariadne
06-30-2010, 06:01 PM
Idiots, try to understand the context of the question in relation to the answer:



Q. Some of these big, flat hitters seem to be having an effect on you. Do you need to alter your game to adjust to that?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, if I'm healthy I can handle those guys, you know. Obviously it's a pity that Del Potro is not around, because I think he would have a run at world No. 1 or a run at another Grand Slam. It's unfortunate for him.

But, you know, he's been playing well, and these guys do play very well. I played these guys 10 times. They're not going to reinvent themselves in a year, you know.

But I'm definitely struggling at the moment. That's a bit disappointing.

stebs
06-30-2010, 06:03 PM
Embarrasing and disrespectful comment to make. :o

MrChopin
06-30-2010, 06:04 PM
Idiots, try to understand the context of the question in relation to the answer:

Thanks for this. Lots of haters and fans unable to read for themselves.

scoobs
06-30-2010, 06:05 PM
Do you go gently into that good night or do you rage against the dying of the light?

I guess Roger has chosen his path.

born_on_clay
06-30-2010, 06:05 PM
and who now dares to claim Federer doesn't use excuses :confused:

oranges
06-30-2010, 06:05 PM
Suck it up Fed when you lose. It shouldn't be too hard for a guy with so many Edberg awards.

Langers
06-30-2010, 06:06 PM
Idiots, try to understand the context of the question in relation to the answer:
Oh yes, context makes it so much better!

Persimmon
06-30-2010, 06:06 PM
:o

alter ego
06-30-2010, 06:07 PM
Mono? Check.
Lung infection? Check.
Bad back? Check.

What next? :yeah:

Yeah what a crybaby this Federer. We all know that only Djokovic and Nadull can get legit injuries because they're unlucky. While Federer's body is made up of unbreakable Titanium.

Geo
06-30-2010, 06:11 PM
I do like that Federer is not just giving PC answers but c'mon everyone gets injured sometimes :lol: There have been other matches when Federer was healthy and almost lost, but the other guy choked (see his AO match with Berdych). Berdych just took care of business today :shrug:

oranges
06-30-2010, 06:12 PM
Idiots, try to understand the context of the question in relation to the answer:

Idiot right back at you. People are able to read and it's a classless remark anyway you look at it. And no, he no longer beats these guys as he pleases.

Dear Roger, getting older is neither a disease nor injury, neither is losing your mojo

Noleta
06-30-2010, 06:12 PM
Idiots, try to understand the context of the question in relation to the answer:

Thanks:)His words has been blown out of proportion.

Dimitra
06-30-2010, 06:15 PM
Idiots, try to understand the context of the question in relation to the answer:

ok much better imo.It changes a lot really.

But no need to insult people not everyone knows where to get his whole interview.:rolleyes:

RagingLamb
06-30-2010, 06:16 PM
Disappointing from Federer

Deivid23
06-30-2010, 06:16 PM
Classless Federer at his very best once again :worship:

alter ego
06-30-2010, 06:18 PM
http://www.icanhaszooloo.com/uploads/photo/fullsize/611_20100312_CR-myfXwOPzBj.gif

River
06-30-2010, 06:18 PM
I read the interview. It still implies he's injured and that if he wasn't, he'd be able to take out Berdych.

How can you think it's not classless? The room was discussing DEL POTRO for God's sake. He's not even THERE.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
06-30-2010, 06:18 PM
The ego king can't accept he is starting losing at GS these days,no respect to his opponent,what a sore loser. :rolleyes:

Ariadne
06-30-2010, 06:18 PM
Oh yes, context makes it so much better!

1--He gives credit to the (alluded to) big hitters, namely that they play "really well"
2--He has had numerous successes against these (so called) big-hitters, so much so that they were considered his bread and butter.
3--He has suddenly over the last couple of months started having problems against them.
4--Those alluded to big hitters haven't all of a sudden "re-invented" their game over the last year or so.
5--So why has he suddenly started having problems against them? Ergo the "If I am healthy" comment i.e. fitness and an aging body translating into below par performances.

Kworb
06-30-2010, 06:19 PM
ROGER FEDERER: Uhm, well, I mean, I don't think I played poorly. But, uhm, I think he went after it.

ROGER FEDERER: I think he's been able to play more consistent last year or so.

ROGER FEDERER: Like I said, I think he was a bit more consistent than in the past. I lost to him in Miami this year, where it was a really tight match as well.

ROGER FEDERER: You know, he played well when he had to. It was brutal for me. Every time he had a chance, he took it. On the breakpoints, he played great on those.

ROGER FEDERER: 30‑All he got it on the line over and over again. I just felt like I couldn't create enough chances to really get the breakthrough.

Big_Juicy
06-30-2010, 06:20 PM
Fed is classless

HDW
06-30-2010, 06:22 PM
I haven't got much respect left for him tbh

Arakasi
06-30-2010, 06:22 PM
Misleading quote. He didn't even say those exact words so I don't know why you have put quotation marks.

This is what he really said:

Q. Some of these big, flat hitters seem to be having an effect on you. Do you need to alter your game to adjust to that?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, if I'm healthy I can handle those guys, you know. Obviously it's a pity that Del Potro is not around, because I think he would have a run at world No. 1 or a run at another Grand Slam. It's unfortunate for him.

But, you know, he's been playing well, and these guys do play very well. I played these guys 10 times. They're not going to reinvent themselves in a year, you know.

But I'm definitely struggling at the moment. That's a bit disappointing.

RIboy
06-30-2010, 06:23 PM
ATP should give him another sportsmanship award, i would suggest Robin Soderling as a good award presenter

Filo V.
06-30-2010, 06:26 PM
Funny, people say he isn't arrogant. I mean, really. I like Fed, but come on with this.

FormerRafaFan
06-30-2010, 06:28 PM
Just another case of sore loser. Federer is really arrogant too. Why am I not surprised? Even Nadal, WHEN he was injured was never this cocky! He even acknowledged his opponents and praised them for playing well! He never blamed his injury. Fed will never do that, but well.. That's why I'm a fan of Nadal and not Federer. Fed's ego is just too big.

It's like "hey, I'm better than everyone, nobody can beat me unless I'm injured." Yeah, Fed. Keep telling yourself that.. Firstly, Nadal has beaten you before when you weren't injured. Secondly, maybe it's the fact that you're getting old(er), and are not as fit anymore? Fed should swallow the humble pill. Maybe it would do him some good.

Filo V.
06-30-2010, 06:29 PM
And no-one is saying he didn't give credit to Berdych. But the fact is, he downplayed the victory by saying he could beat these players, if he were healthy. Saying that is essentially saying they only win because he's hurt and they are taking advantage. The injury sounds possibly serious, and that's a pity. But he is definitely using it as an excuse.

Topspin Forehand
06-30-2010, 06:30 PM
I am injured (old). If I’m healthy (young), I can handle these guys. ;)

Dimitra
06-30-2010, 06:30 PM
1--He gives credit to the (alluded to) big hitters, namely that they play "really well"
2--He has had numerous successes against these (so called) big-hitters, so much so that they were considered his bread and butter.
3--He has suddenly over the last couple of months started having problems against them.
4--Those alluded to big hitters haven't all of a sudden "re-invented" their game over the last year or so.
5--So why has he suddenly started having problems against them? Ergo the "If I am healthy" comment i.e. fitness and an aging body translating into below par performances.

yes good post.
He also said that if he was badly injured he wouldn't step into the court.

here's his interview everyone :http://www.livestream.com/wimbledon/video?clipId=pla_b1abd7c8-24d7-433b-83b4-00c16b42707d&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb

Young 8
06-30-2010, 06:31 PM
T. Berdych - 30 June 2010
Wednesday, 30 June 2010


Q. Roger said he had some physical problems; that his back and leg were bothering him. What did you notice and what is your reaction to him saying that?

TOMAS BERDYCH: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if he just looking for some excuses after the match or something like that. I mean, it happened to all of us. You know, I think he's been every time when he played, he was I think hundred percent ready.

So maybe right now he's getting some more troubles with the health. But, you know, I think it just happen today. So I didn't know that. I just heard it first time like you said it right now. So, yeah, just to him hope that he's gonna get back soon and that's it what I can just wish him.

Q. He also said he was unlucky and that he definitely gave the match away. What are your thoughts about that?

TOMAS BERDYCH: I don't know in which point he was saying that he was unlucky, if any specific moment or something.

Q. He was saying generally or on big points.

TOMAS BERDYCH: Okay. I mean, yeah, maybe you can take it for both ways. You can say that he was unlucky or you can say that maybe the opponent was a little bit better and he just won the big points against him. In his position, then he lost the match.

You know, I think, yeah, he's a great player. I mean, but still, I mean, when I just read some newspapers in the morning, I was not surprised, but, you know, to heard something from him to the way that he's fine, nothing is bothering him. When we played the last match, I lost. But last time in Wimbledon, I won pretty easily. You know, stuff like that.

You know, I saw him quite first time from him the reactions like that. So whatever. I'm in different position. I'm just enjoying the win today, and this is just everything behind me.



:worship:

BEBE91
06-30-2010, 06:32 PM
What an arrogant clown!

Mr. Oracle
06-30-2010, 06:32 PM
True to form, Frauderer once again denies his opponent the joy of victory. No class at all. And some fedtards thinks he's the GOAT?

Regenbogen
06-30-2010, 06:32 PM
It's not particularly humble or classy, but when has Fed been either? It's easy to sound good when you're winning everything. I don't actually blame him for saying it - the guy just lost the match and is hardly likely to be in the best mood. Either way it's silly to be surprised and disappointed about it.

Serenidad
06-30-2010, 06:33 PM
Yes, Tomas ring the alarm on that Frauderror.

Roger :wavey:.

RIboy
06-30-2010, 06:33 PM
:worship: :worship: :clap2:

Arkulari
06-30-2010, 06:34 PM
Misleading quote. He didn't even say those exact words so I don't know why you have put quotation marks.

This is what he really said:

Q. Some of these big, flat hitters seem to be having an effect on you. Do you need to alter your game to adjust to that?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, if I'm healthy I can handle those guys, you know. Obviously it's a pity that Del Potro is not around, because I think he would have a run at world No. 1 or a run at another Grand Slam. It's unfortunate for him.

But, you know, he's been playing well, and these guys do play very well. I played these guys 10 times. They're not going to reinvent themselves in a year, you know.

But I'm definitely struggling at the moment. That's a bit disappointing.

so is this a case of yet another one of his quotes taking out of context? :retard:

I still think the whole "I can beat them" was uncalled for but I thought it was worse before reading the whole presser ;)

Tutu
06-30-2010, 06:34 PM
:rocker2:

Topspin Forehand
06-30-2010, 06:34 PM
T. Berdych - 30 June 2010
Wednesday, 30 June 2010


Q. Roger said he had some physical problems; that his back and leg were bothering him. What did you notice and what is your reaction to him saying that?

TOMAS BERDYCH: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if he just looking for some excuses after the match or something like that. I mean, it happened to all of us. You know, I think he's been every time when he played, he was I think hundred percent ready.

So maybe right now he's getting some more troubles with the health. But, you know, I think it just happen today. So I didn't know that. I just heard it first time like you said it right now. So, yeah, just to him hope that he's gonna get back soon and that's it what I can just wish him.

Q. He also said he was unlucky and that he definitely gave the match away. What are your thoughts about that?

TOMAS BERDYCH: I don't know in which point he was saying that he was unlucky, if any specific moment or something.

Q. He was saying generally or on big points.

TOMAS BERDYCH: Okay. I mean, yeah, maybe you can take it for both ways. You can say that he was unlucky or you can say that maybe the opponent was a little bit better and he just won the big points against him. In his position, then he lost the match.

You know, I think, yeah, he's a great player. I mean, but still, I mean, when I just read some newspapers in the morning, I was not surprised, but, you know, to heard something from him to the way that he's fine, nothing is bothering him. When we played the last match, I lost. But last time in Wimbledon, I won pretty easily. You know, stuff like that.

You know, I saw him quite first time from him the reactions like that. So whatever. I'm in different position. I'm just enjoying the win today, and this is just everything behind me.



:worship:
Bird man giving it to Federer thick. :eek:

Action Jackson
06-30-2010, 06:35 PM
Typical candid remarks from Berdych.

scarecrows
06-30-2010, 06:35 PM
True to form, Frauderer once again denies his opponent the joy of victory. No class at all. And some fedtards thinks he's the GOAT?

what do interviews have to do with his achievements?

Kworb
06-30-2010, 06:35 PM
:lol: The journalists are just as desperate for drama as the people here.

Q. Roger said he had some physical problems; that his back and leg were bothering him. What did you notice and what is your reaction to him saying that?

Q. He also said he was unlucky and that he definitely gave the match away. What are your thoughts about that?

Q. How do you feel about Roger after the things he said after the match?

:lol:

Foxy
06-30-2010, 06:35 PM
Rogie only loses when he is injured and/or sick.
He has leg, thigh, ankle injuries on both legs. Wrist, elbow arm injuries on both hands.
Besides that he has mono, antrax, SARS, swine flu, bird flu, Ebola at the same time. ;)

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 06:35 PM
ATP should give him another sportsmanship award, i would suggest Robin Soderling as a good award presenter

:lol:

I'm pretty critical of Roger usually, but I just don't his presser is all that bad.

He's pretty self-aware he's struggling. You all don't think he's struggling?

But that's not to say Tomas didn't have something to do with Roger struggling either. It's just that Roger usually rises to the challenge a lot better.

Could be... that after all this time, other players are coming into their own. Could be Roger is injured and not playing well.

It's probably a combination of things, but the point is Tomas won, so.. Roger gives him credit for winning and other players credit for having great potential.

Aloevera
06-30-2010, 06:35 PM
The journalist trying to stir the drama as usual. :lol: I guess Berdych didn't really trust the media, but....

Certinfy
06-30-2010, 06:36 PM
Quite amazing interview from Tomas, over the last few years he's shown how much respect he's had for Roger, but after hearing what Fed said in his press conference u can clearly tell he's kinda shocked and sad in a way I mean come on, Tomas has done nothing but credit Federer for his whole career. FFS even when he lost to him at the AO he gave the credit to Roger even though everyone knew he clearly choked the match away.

But I'm very glad about the way he handled it, very impressive Tomas :yeah:

Arkulari
06-30-2010, 06:36 PM
ooh Foxy is here :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

green25814
06-30-2010, 06:36 PM
Pretty poor comments from Fed imo.

M4RC
06-30-2010, 06:37 PM
This is absolutely right, but also comes across as classless and bitter. Basically the inevitable consequence of having press conferences right after the match when the players are still upset and don't have time to come up with the polite answers :o Fed you should be handling the press better after so many years :(

If Nadal does it then it's a excuse but if it's Federer the reason is that he didn't have time to recover after the loss. NID.

aqMk9vFhGXg

Serenidad
06-30-2010, 06:37 PM
Roger. You're a muppet. Learn how to handle your twins.

Kworb
06-30-2010, 06:37 PM
:lol: Journalists starting shit. Gotta love it.

crude oil
06-30-2010, 06:38 PM
stating the obvious.

if im healthy, i can beat them. key word is "can"...not saying that he will.

whether fed was healthy or not is irrelevant. Berdych deserved the win either way. He was the much better player and fed played like a mug. fed has played much worse even when 100% healthy.

Persimmon
06-30-2010, 06:38 PM
Ouch.

allpro
06-30-2010, 06:39 PM
:worship: t-berd :worship:

oranges
06-30-2010, 06:40 PM
yes good post.



No, it's not. He didn't give credit to anyone. In fact, he literally failed to both realize and acknowledge that many of these guys have reinvented themselves in a year. Del Potro who played him at AO and USO is just one example. Soderling is another. Berdych is making huge strides. The list goes on. Only in his mind will he forever be at his peak, while others will stagnate forever. If he can't get used to losing, he's going to be embarrassing himself like this a lot in the future.

moonxyz
06-30-2010, 06:40 PM
Its seriously time to retire when you start making these pathetic excuses for losing.

Its disrespectful and pretty crass to your opponent that beat you fairly.

Someone sounds really bitter

Action Jackson
06-30-2010, 06:41 PM
Seems like MTF trolls have got press accreditation at Wimbledon.

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 06:41 PM
:lol: Journalists starting shit. Gotta love it.

:rolls:

Yeah... now THIS is FUN! It's still not trash-talking at it's finest, but... it's good!

Arkulari
06-30-2010, 06:41 PM
AJ :lol:

people really never seen McEnroe and Connors going at it, this is bullshit from Roger, but those guys would make anyone around this tour look like an angel ;)

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-30-2010, 06:42 PM
I'm just enjoying the win today, and this is just everything behind me.




:worship:

You deserve that Tom.

denibas77
06-30-2010, 06:46 PM
1--He gives credit to the (alluded to) big hitters, namely that they play "really well"
2--He has had numerous successes against these (so called) big-hitters, so much so that they were considered his bread and butter.
3--He has suddenly over the last couple of months started having problems against them.
4--Those alluded to big hitters haven't all of a sudden "re-invented" their game over the last year or so.
5--So why has he suddenly started having problems against them? Ergo the "If I am healthy" comment i.e. fitness and an aging body translating into below par performances.

They didn't reinvented their game ,they developed ,they are better mentally ,they have more experience ,and most important they are not afraid of him:wavey:

FormerRafaFan
06-30-2010, 06:47 PM
I'm a new fan of Berdych. He tells it like it is. And yes, I agree with him. It's probably just another excuse from sore loser Fed.

thrust
06-30-2010, 06:48 PM
This is not classy.

SO TRUE! Especially since Berdych seems to be as nice a guy as there is on the tour and finally reached a semi at Wimbledon. Even if Roger was injured, he should have kept quiet about it, so as to give credit to Tomas.

M4RC
06-30-2010, 06:48 PM
Owned.

RIboy
06-30-2010, 06:49 PM
http://image.dnevnik.hr/media/images///520xX/Jun2010//60338431.jpg

NadalSharapova
06-30-2010, 06:50 PM
federer being classless after a defeat. whats new?

bokehlicious
06-30-2010, 06:51 PM
16 :sport: :sport: :smoke: :)

tennishero
06-30-2010, 06:54 PM
16 :sport: :sport: :smoke: :)

http://kumarenggrace.i.ph/photo/d/698-1/Roger+Federer+Crying+pic_4_.jpg

Jaz
06-30-2010, 06:54 PM
They didn't reinvented their game ,they developed ,they are better mentally ,they have more experience ,and most important they are not afraid of him:wavey:

Ridiculous, Roger has been comfortable in all his pre 2010 matches against the big hitters.

Post-AO 2010. He's losing in either straights, or 4 setters against them.

What's more likely:
-Roger playing worse

OR

- 5+ big-hitters suddenly getting better which they never did for 8 years? (lol).

Roger lost against Hewitt, Hewitt, as seen by his loss in Wimbly hasn't improved. Logic dictates that Roger's level is declining.

Dimitra
06-30-2010, 06:55 PM
No, it's not. He didn't give credit to anyone. In fact, he literally failed to both realize and acknowledge that many of these guys have reinvented themselves in a year. Del Potro who played him at AO and USO is just one example. Soderling is another. Berdych is making huge strides. The list goes on. Only in his mind will he forever be at his peak, while others will stagnate forever. If he can't get used to losing, he's going to be embarrassing himself like this a lot in the future.

he did say that Tomas played well :shrug: Maybe he focused much much more on his own personna but after all that's kinda expected from any professional athlete :shrug:
Sure Soderling and Berdych have evolved a lot,from last year already especially on the mental department,and all credit to them.

As I said before as a Fedfan I don't like his interview but if read as a whole and not just the quotes I can understand his viewpoint and appreciate his honesty.Afterall he believes this trully and doesn't just say PC crap.

moon language
06-30-2010, 06:55 PM
Not Federer's finest moment. I thought he was probably past saying these kind of things now that he has the slam record. I suppose the good thing is that he cares enough about losing to be pissyfed.

RubberDuckling
06-30-2010, 06:58 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/rogerfederer/7864187/Wimbledon-2010-Andy-Murray-has-easy-ride-to-victory-says-defeated-Roger-Federer.html

Wimbledon 2010: Andy Murray has 'easy ride' to victory says defeated Roger Federer

The Swiss six-times Wimbledon champion gave a bad tempered press conference after losing 3-1 to Tomas Berdych of the Czech Republic, sitting hunched over the desk and at times holding his head in his hands.

He repeatedly snapped at journalists and said he did not plan to watch the Wimbledon final – the first in which he has not appeared for eight years.

Asked whether he thought Andy Murray’s chances of victory were helped by his own exit and the patchy performance of Rafael Nadal, the world number one, he replied sneeringly: “Rafa played terribly lately; Soderling is not a threat either. He’s got an easy ride to this victory, that’s for sure. Djokovic can’t play tennis anymore it seems like.”

The 16-times grand slam champion added: “Respect the players. Obviously Andy is a fantastic player and he’s got all the chances to win here. We all know that.”

Murray, the British number one, must defeat Frenchman Jo-Wilfriend Tsonga, the 10th seed, to win a place in the semifinals.

Federer said his quarter-finals defeat was caused by niggling pains in his right leg and back which had been troubling him since the start of the championships.

“I’ve been feeling bad for the last two, three matches now, It’s just not good and healthy to play under these kind of conditions,” he said.

“The back’s been feeling stiff the last five days, six days really badly. It’s just not nice when it doesn’t go away and you can’t play freely.”

He described his defeat by Berdych as “brutal,” adding: “I played poorly. It was just a frustrating match.”

The irritable press conference was a break with convention for Federer, who is usually known for his courtesy and composure.

Asked by one reporter whether some of his opponent’s balls had overshot the baseline and then curled back in, he snapped: “No, he didn’t play like that. You saw a different match.”

The 28-year-old said he would now take a two week break from tennis and spend some time with his wife and twin daughters.

recessional
06-30-2010, 06:59 PM
this thread is such a train wreck, yet i can't look away.

FormerRafaFan
06-30-2010, 06:59 PM
Its seriously time to retire when you start making these pathetic excuses for losing.

Its disrespectful and pretty crass to your opponent that beat you fairly.

Someone sounds really bitter

Exactly. Very classless of Fed. He won't even acknowledge that he might have played bad or that his opponent might have played well. He keep making excuses every time he loses, this is nothing new, but it's sad to see him sink to this level. He comes across as an arrogant sore loser. It doesn't help that the things he says actually comes across as rude and disrespectful for his opponents. I'm glad Berdych called him out on it today.

arm
06-30-2010, 07:00 PM
Q. Can you talk a little bit about your relationship with Kvitova, because you practice in the same club in Prostejov.

TOMAS BERDYCH: Yeah, we know each other. Yeah, we are friends. Yeah, we practice in same club. Almost everything what you say.


This is by far the best part. :lol: Yeah, Tomas :devil: is she hot? :p

DrJules
06-30-2010, 07:01 PM
Lack of play and lack of getting into the right physical shape has its consequences.

If Federer wishes to win regularly again he needs to be fully committed to the sport.

denibas77
06-30-2010, 07:03 PM
Ridiculous, Roger has been comfortable in all his pre 2010 matches against the big hitters.

Post-AO 2010. He's losing in either straights, or 4 setters against them.

What's more likely:
-Roger playing worse

OR

- 5+ big-hitters suddenly getting better which they never did for 8 years? (lol).

Roger lost against Hewitt, Hewitt, as seen by his loss in Wimbly hasn't improved. Logic dictates that Roger's level is declining.Yes, he is one year older and they are too,bad for him ,good for them he is slower ,they are more experienced

Jaz
06-30-2010, 07:03 PM
Exactly. Very classless of Fed. He won't even acknowledge that he might have played bad or that his opponent might have played well. He keep making excuses every time he loses, this is nothing new, but it's sad to see him sink to this level. He comes across as an arrogant sore loser. It doesn't help that the things he says actually comes across as rude and disrespectful for his opponents. I'm glad Berdych called him out on it today.

Except.... Berdych didn't call him out on it.
Except.... He said Berdych played well
Except.... If he said he played "poorly" then you would say Roger isn't giving credit to Berych.

scoobs
06-30-2010, 07:04 PM
Typical of the journalists though.

That was clearly a sarcastic comment from Roger about his rivals and Murray's chances but the Telegraph chooses to right it up as though he meant it seriously and is doing his opponents down.

I'm all for calling him when he says something genuinely off, but that one is ridiculous, Telegraph just going for the sensational story.

peribsen
06-30-2010, 07:04 PM
Sad to see such a huge player in this condition. He's certainly very much past his prime, but I for one wouldn´t be surprised if he treated us to a 17th. Hope he does.

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 07:05 PM
SO TRUE! Especially since Berdych seems to be as nice a guy as there is on the tour and finally reached a semi at Wimbledon. Even if Roger was injured, he should have kept quiet about it, so as to give credit to Tomas.

Why should Roger be quiet about his injuries?

It is what it is.

Besides, sometimes players never recover from their injuries.

Drug issues notwithstanding, Andre retired due to a bad back. Guga retired due to a hip.

Lleyton Hewitt has bad hips, right?

Ponyboy might not be the player he once was due to chronic wrist issues. Rafa's knee problems might catch-up with him..

I mean.. injuries that's part of the total package. The bottom line is Roger was beaten for whatever reason. And that's not to say Tomas wouldn't have beaten 100% healthy Roger anyway.

I just think it's not a big deal, and then for the media to go Birdie with "Roger said this; Roger said that." :rolleyes:

I just don't see any reason why a player can't mention his injuries without it being a commentary on the other players success.

To me, Roger is saying he can compete better when healthy.... Duh.. He says he CAN beat them, not that he would beat them...

I just don't see where Roger is saying he would have beaten Tomas if he were healthy.

spencercarlos
06-30-2010, 07:05 PM
Great way to manipulate his quotes.. This is what exactly was qustioned and aswered by Roger..


Q. Some of these big, flat hitters seem to be having an effect on you. Do you need to alter your game to adjust to that?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, if I'm healthy I can handle those guys, you know. Obviously it's a pity that Del Potro is not around, because I think he would have a run at world No. 1 or a run at another Grand Slam. It's unfortunate for him

This is a response regarding that he had lost to hard hitting players latetly....

Great for the OP try to stir some sh.t where it does not really is.... :rolleyes:

:wavey:

Sunset of Age
06-30-2010, 07:06 PM
Funny to see a lot of muttering about Fed talking about his injuries coming from fans from other players who do that just the same, or even more.
Pot-meet-Kettle?

I'm a new fan of Berdych. He tells it like it is. And yes, I agree with him. It's probably just another excuse from sore loser Fed.

He was 'telling it like it is' at the QF Madrid 2006 to a certain other sore loser as well. Did you enjoy that, too? :D

Mateya
06-30-2010, 07:07 PM
Haha Rogi Federror, be a man and admit you're past your peak and slowly declining. And you will suck more by every passing year.
One more Basel for you and that's it. You are the GOAT anyway.
:wavey:

scoobs
06-30-2010, 07:07 PM
Great way to manipulate his quotes.. This is what exactly was qustioned and aswered by Roger..


Q. Some of these big, flat hitters seem to be having an effect on you. Do you need to alter your game to adjust to that?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, if I'm healthy I can handle those guys, you know. Obviously it's a pity that Del Potro is not around, because I think he would have a run at world No. 1 or a run at another Grand Slam. It's unfortunate for him

This is a response regarding that he had lost to hard hitting players latetly....

Great for the OP try to stir some sh.t where it does not really is.... :rolleyes:

:wavey:

What EXACTLY is being manipulated?

Q. Some of these big, flat hitters seem to be having an effect on you. Do you need to alter your game to adjust to that?

Well, if I'm healthy I can handle those guys, you know.

i.e. I am losing to these big flat hitters because I am not in peak health.

It's pretty clear what he means.

DrJules
06-30-2010, 07:08 PM
Typical of the journalists though.

That was clearly a sarcastic comment from Roger about his rivals and Murray's chances but the Telegraph chooses to right it up as though he meant it seriously and is doing his opponents down.

I'm all for calling him when he says something genuinely off, but that one is ridiculous, Telegraph just going for the sensational story.

The Murray comment was very funny, but does reflect the pressure on British players previously Henman and now Murray.

ZakMcCrack
06-30-2010, 07:09 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aN0zzXUaKEZs

Go reword the title of this thread because that's just not what he said - man, I hate wrong quoting :mad:

spencercarlos
06-30-2010, 07:09 PM
Why should Roger be quiet about his injuries?

It is what it is.

Besides, sometimes players never recover from their injuries.

Drug issues notwithstanding, Andre retired due to a bad back. Guga retired due to a hip.

Lleyton Hewitt has bad hips, right?

Ponyboy might not be the player he once was due to chronic wrist issues. Rafa's knee problems might catch-up with him..

I mean.. injuries that's part of the total package. The bottom line is Roger was beaten for whatever reason. And that's not to say Tomas wouldn't have beaten 100% healthy Roger anyway.

I just think it's not a big deal, and then for the media to go Birdie with "Roger said this; Roger said that." :rolleyes:

I just don't see any reason why a player can't mention his injuries without it being a commentary on the other players success.

To me, Roger is saying he can compete better when healthy.... Duh.. He says he CAN beat them, not that he would beat them...

I just don't see where Roger is saying he would have beaten Tomas if he were healthy.
Fereder was quiet about his injury during his first round match. But he was clearly slow on his feet, and hitting a ridiculously low amount of aces, and slower speed on his serve than usual.

He basically tried to hide it, but a bandage was catched on his second round match.. Hard to say he´s lying and fabricating.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/119823245.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1277925939&Signature=f8UFxRGlxxBgIrgudnmLA3cX0vU%3D
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/119823245.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1277925939&Signature=f8UFxRGlxxBgIrgudnmLA3cX0vU%3D

lazybear
06-30-2010, 07:10 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/rogerfederer/7864187/Wimbledon-2010-Andy-Murray-has-easy-ride-to-victory-says-defeated-Roger-Federer.html

http://www.borsosfi.hu/smiley/thumbsup.gif

Idiots. Yeah, i know they probably got the sarcasm, but still.

Jaz
06-30-2010, 07:10 PM
What EXACTLY is being manipulated?

Q. Some of these big, flat hitters seem to be having an effect on you. Do you need to alter your game to adjust to that?

Well, if I'm healthy I can handle those guys, you know.

i.e. I am losing to these big flat hitters because I am not in peak health.

It's pretty clear what he means.

Not in context where he talks about DelPo having a good run at world #1. Should he say he's going to lose to them then?

Action Jackson
06-30-2010, 07:10 PM
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/GeorgeWH/8476_view.jpg

dj_mercury
06-30-2010, 07:10 PM
Either Federer gave another interview to the OP or the OP doesn't know what quotations marks are used for.

As for excuses and all, I think it is pretty clear that after 3 matches, just to name the GS one, were he literally gets overpowered in every exchange and every time he drops a second serve, it seems pretty clear that there is something wrong in Federer ground strokes. Probably is not something you can clearly see from a tv perspective, but is something that an opponent can feel by hitting the ball slightly earlier or stronger. This is such a tight and competitive game that every small edge that you gain or lose can make a big difference.

Obviously the timing to raise this issue by Federer is questionable, but when you are asked about it and you just come out from a tough defeat even from the mental point of view, I dare to say it is human to try to find an explanation that involves yourself rather than the opponent.

denibas77
06-30-2010, 07:11 PM
lets now speak for ten pages what handle means:D

scoobs
06-30-2010, 07:12 PM
Not in context where he talks about DelPo having a good run at world #1. Should he say he's going to lose to them then?
I don't see what the context of Delpo having a run at #1 has to do with whether or not Federer can "handle" these guys if he's healthy.

solowyn
06-30-2010, 07:12 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/rogerfederer/7864187/Wimbledon-2010-Andy-Murray-has-easy-ride-to-victory-says-defeated-Roger-Federer.html
Horrible journalism :o

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 07:14 PM
What EXACTLY is being manipulated?

Q. Some of these big, flat hitters seem to be having an effect on you. Do you need to alter your game to adjust to that?

Well, if I'm healthy I can handle those guys, you know.

i.e. I am losing to these big flat hitters because I am not in peak health.

It's pretty clear what he means.

He says he can "handle" them... in other words "compete." He is defending HIS GAME.. the way he plays. The question was about "altering his game" to adjust to big, flat hitters.

In other words at this point Roger doesn't think it's "his game" that's let him down but more his body.

I just don't read it as a slight to Tomas. It's more the media was putting Roger on the defense of his tactics. :shrug:

Azurebi
06-30-2010, 07:14 PM
http://kumarenggrace.i.ph/photo/d/698-1/Roger+Federer+Crying+pic_4_.jpg

:haha: :dog: :sobbing: :haha:

crude oil
06-30-2010, 07:16 PM
What EXACTLY is being manipulated?

Q. Some of these big, flat hitters seem to be having an effect on you. Do you need to alter your game to adjust to that?

Well, if I'm healthy I can handle those guys, you know.

i.e. I am losing to these big flat hitters because I am not in peak health.

It's pretty clear what he means.

you just manipulated what he said... LOL.

you made a leap from " i can beat them if im healthy"

to "im losing because of my health".

you are trying to read too much into this one sentence, but perhaps that is your prerogative.

roger didnt make the leap...YOU DID.

scoobs
06-30-2010, 07:16 PM
He says he can "handle" them... in other words "compete." He is defending HIS GAME.. the way he plays. The question was about "altering his game" to adjust to big, flat hitters.

In other words at this point Roger doesn't think it's "his game" that's let him down but more his body.

I just don't read it as a slight to Tomas. It's more the media was putting Roger on the defense of his tactics. :shrug:
Maybe "handle" means something different to others but to me this reads as "if i'm healthy I can beat them" - handle being a synonym for beat. Others might interpret handle as meaning he can compete.

*shrug*

Whatever. I thought he "handled" Berdych today in terms of competing, he didn't roll over today, but he didn't "handle" Berdych in terms of winning.

scoobs
06-30-2010, 07:17 PM
you just manipulated what he said... LOL.

you made a leap from " i can beat them if im healthy"

to "im losing because of my health".

you are trying to read too much into this one sentence, but perhaps that is your prerogative.

roger didnt make the leap...YOU DID.
let's look at the flip side.

If I'm healthy I can handle these guys.

Ergo, logically, if I'm not healthy I cannot handle these guys. So the deteminant factor is whether I am healthy or not.

A_Skywalker
06-30-2010, 07:18 PM
Federer is pure class.

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 07:19 PM
Maybe "handle" means something different to others but to me this reads as "if i'm healthy I can beat them" - handle being a synonym for beat. Others might interpret handle as meaning he can compete.

*shrug*

Whatever. I thought he "handled" Berdych today in terms of competing, he didn't roll over today, but he didn't "handle" Berdych in terms of winning.

But look at the question.

The question was about altering HIS GAME. The question wasn't even specifically about Tomas.

Like I said, the media put Roger on the defensive about his game, so Roger answered defensively... like I can handle the power from these guys when I'm healthy.

That's what I'm seeing, and goodness knows I've been critical of Roger before.

spencercarlos
06-30-2010, 07:19 PM
What EXACTLY is being manipulated?

Q. Some of these big, flat hitters seem to be having an effect on you. Do you need to alter your game to adjust to that?

Well, if I'm healthy I can handle those guys, you know.

i.e. I am losing to these big flat hitters because I am not in peak health.

It's pretty clear what he means.
He was being asked if he had to "alter his game" in order to be competitive against hard hitting oponnents.

But completly understand Roger, he has a great record over hard hitting players, he has beaten them before, he just needs to take care of himself.

Anyway he gave nice comments to Berdych, he talked about him being more consistent than before, therefore.

Jaz
06-30-2010, 07:19 PM
I don't see what the context of Delpo having a run at #1 has to do with whether or not Federer can "handle" these guys if he's healthy.

Becauce DelPo is a big hitter, he refers to him in the same answer to the question. He also points out that DelPo would challenge to #1 (which Federer is also challenging, hence a challenge to him also).

ShotmaKer
06-30-2010, 07:19 PM
lawl. well after the Rafa hate in the Nadal-Petzchner match result thread, let's have a bit of Fed hating now.

crude oil
06-30-2010, 07:20 PM
let's look at the flip side.

If I'm healthy I can handle these guys.

Ergo, logically, if I'm not healthy I cannot handle these guys. So the deteminant factor is whether I am healthy or not.

you are assuming the converse is ALSO what he intends. it may or may not be.

you do not know.

you are trying to deduce the converse using logic, but converse isnt always true.

scoobs
06-30-2010, 07:20 PM
But look at the question.

The question was about altering HIS GAME. The question wasn't even specifically about Tomas.

Like I said, the media put Roger on the defensive about his game, so Roger answered defensively... like I can handle the power from these guys when I'm healthy.

That's what I'm seeing, and goodness knows I've been critical of Roger before.
yes, he's saying I don't need to alter my game because if I'm healthy then I can handle them. IE the reason I am losing is not because I need to change my game, the reason I am losing is because I am not 100%.

denibas77
06-30-2010, 07:21 PM
this line from guardian is good

But he is angry too – angry at himself for being mortal and angry at suggestions he is not as great as he has been for nearly a decade:worship:

JolánGagó
06-30-2010, 07:21 PM
Oh dear :spit:

sad end :o

scoobs
06-30-2010, 07:22 PM
you are assuming the converse is ALSO what he intends. it may or may not be.

you do not know.

you are trying to deduce the converse using logic, but converse isnt always true.
well we can all spending hours defining the meaning of a peach and deciding what somebody meant by something.

to me it seems pretty clear what he's saying but if others want to interpret it differently, then good for them.

some people seem capable of twisting things around so that what something seems to mean is said to mean the complete opposite, but then that's their choice.

spencercarlos
06-30-2010, 07:24 PM
:lol: The journalists are just as desperate for drama as the people here.

Q. Roger said he had some physical problems; that his back and leg were bothering him. What did you notice and what is your reaction to him saying that?

Q. He also said he was unlucky and that he definitely gave the match away. What are your thoughts about that?

Q. How do you feel about Roger after the things he said after the match?

:lol:
OMG those questions to Thomas :lol: too bad he got into their trick :rolleyes:

Priam
06-30-2010, 07:26 PM
Funny stuff from Rog.

Q. I wonder if you think this might be his year, given some of the really threatening players haven't been doing so well this year.

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, true, Rafa played terribly lately; Soderling is not a threat either. He's got an easy ride to this victory, that's for sure. Djokovic can't play tennis anymore it seems like.

Got to make your own work, please. Respect the players. Obviously Andy is a fantastic player and he's got all the chances to win here. We all know that.

crude oil
06-30-2010, 07:28 PM
well we can all spending hours defining the meaning of a peach and deciding what somebody meant by something.

to me it seems pretty clear what he's saying but if others want to interpret it differently, then good for them.

some people seem capable of twisting things around so that what something seems to mean is said to mean the complete opposite, but then that's their choice.

actually its quite simple. it is basic logic and understanding when to apply it. i laid it out very succintly.

if you want to make a logical leap, that is ur choice. i prefer to stick with the actual words because i have information elsewhere in the interview to suggest that he thinks berdych played a fine match and that he thinks he has improved his consistency. he gave berdman credit for the victory but then also has to analyze his own game for the reporters.

i prefer to look at the interview as a whole and not just one or two sentences.

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 07:28 PM
yes, he's saying I don't need to alter my game because if I'm healthy then I can handle them. IE the reason I am losing is not because I need to change my game, the reason I am losing is because I am not 100%.

AT this point, that's what he believes.

It was as if the media implied Roger was overpowered, and in the past Roger HAS had success v these players.

He said Tomas played well; it's just that Roger feels like he could have competed better if he weren't injured.

I mean... look at Soda now. Rafa has beaten him pretty well in majors these last two time.

I mean, I think Soda would have probably beaten Rafa at the French last year anyway, but I can't say Rafa WASN'T affected at all due to his knee injuries and personal problems he was having. Rafa went down in 4 sets, right? And he looked the shell of the player he once was FOR MONTHS. Now look at him. He sure looks pretty good against Soda now.

So...it could just very well be Roger is injured but that takes nothing away form Tomas' win. Bottom line, Tomas played a great match and deserved the victory. But that still doesn't mean Roger wasn't injured.

JolánGagó
06-30-2010, 07:29 PM
T. Berdych - 30 June 2010
Wednesday, 30 June 2010


Q. Roger said he had some physical problems; that his back and leg were bothering him. What did you notice and what is your reaction to him saying that?

TOMAS BERDYCH: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if he just looking for some excuses after the match or something like that. I mean, it happened to all of us. You know, I think he's been every time when he played, he was I think hundred percent ready.

So maybe right now he's getting some more troubles with the health. But, you know, I think it just happen today. So I didn't know that. I just heard it first time like you said it right now. So, yeah, just to him hope that he's gonna get back soon and that's it what I can just wish him.

Q. He also said he was unlucky and that he definitely gave the match away. What are your thoughts about that?

TOMAS BERDYCH: I don't know in which point he was saying that he was unlucky, if any specific moment or something.

Q. He was saying generally or on big points.

TOMAS BERDYCH: Okay. I mean, yeah, maybe you can take it for both ways. You can say that he was unlucky or you can say that maybe the opponent was a little bit better and he just won the big points against him. In his position, then he lost the match.

You know, I think, yeah, he's a great player. I mean, but still, I mean, when I just read some newspapers in the morning, I was not surprised, but, you know, to heard something from him to the way that he's fine, nothing is bothering him. When we played the last match, I lost. But last time in Wimbledon, I won pretty easily. You know, stuff like that.

You know, I saw him quite first time from him the reactions like that. So whatever. I'm in different position. I'm just enjoying the win today, and this is just everything behind me.


Clear, straightforward and classy, despite the English.

Jaz
06-30-2010, 07:33 PM
Funny stuff from Rog.

Q. I wonder if you think this might be his year, given some of the really threatening players haven't been doing so well this year.

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I mean, true, Rafa played terribly lately; Soderling is not a threat either. He's got an easy ride to this victory, that's for sure. Djokovic can't play tennis anymore it seems like.

Got to make your own work, please. Respect the players. Obviously Andy is a fantastic player and he's got all the chances to win here. We all know that.

:worship:

azinna
06-30-2010, 07:35 PM
It's not particularly humble or classy, but when has Fed been either? It's easy to sound good when you're winning everything. I don't actually blame him for saying it - the guy just lost the match and is hardly likely to be in the best mood. Either way it's silly to be surprised and disappointed about it.

Agree completely. He finds it much easier to be diplomatic when winning, or losing a match that doesn't have the significance of Wimbledon. Certainly, he's been known to slip in pressers before and give us a glimpse of how he views himself among opponents. Today provided another gem. Only surprise is perhaps how unveiled things were today.

ShotmaKer
06-30-2010, 07:36 PM
whatever he says his haters will always find a way to have a go at him, so at this point, doesn't matter much.

Priam
06-30-2010, 07:36 PM
Love the sarcasm.

Edith09
06-30-2010, 07:39 PM
Whatever, Berdych won, Fed lost, I´m happy for Tomas.

Fedfanforever
06-30-2010, 07:39 PM
Exactly. Very classless of Fed. He won't even acknowledge that he might have played bad or that his opponent might have played well. He keep making excuses every time he loses, this is nothing new, but it's sad to see him sink to this level. He comes across as an arrogant sore loser. It doesn't help that the things he says actually comes across as rude and disrespectful for his opponents. I'm glad Berdych called him out on it today.
So Nadal blames his loss to Soderling on his bad knees and bad play, and everyone says "oh poor Rafa, he was injured". So that wasn't an excuse?
Now Roger says that he was injured and didn't play well, but gave credit to him (said he painted the lines, played well when it mattered, and became consistent) and he's an "arrogant sore loser"?

Everko
06-30-2010, 07:40 PM
I used to not like Berdych but his responses to Federer's horseshit make me respect him now

Sharin
06-30-2010, 07:45 PM
I can't say Roger's presser was the best I'd hoped for,but some people here are exaggerating as well.
he did have a thigh injury which he talked about after his previous match,and remember the thigh strapping,so it's not like the injury came out of the blue.
btw,quoting one sentence is not fair to the guy.Roger credited the other hard-hitters like Sod and Delpo in his presser as well.
overall,I think he could and should have been more complimentary about Berdych,but some comments are waaaay too harsh on him.

Fedfanforever
06-30-2010, 07:46 PM
I can't say Roger's presser was the best I'd hoped for,but some people here are exaggerating as well.
he did have a thigh injury which he talked about after his previous match,and remember the thigh strapping,so it's not like the injury came out of the blue.
btw,quoting one sentence is not fair to the guy.Roger credited the other hard-hitters like Sod and Delpo in his presser as well.
overall,I think he could and should have been more complimentary about Berdych,but some comments are waaaay too harsh on him.
:worship::worship::worship:

Arakasi
06-30-2010, 07:47 PM
Maybe "handle" means something different to others but to me this reads as "if i'm healthy I can beat them" - handle being a synonym for beat.

Well you've said it yourself.

He was asked whether he needs to alter his game to beat them. He responded that if he's healthy he "can handle them", i.e. he can beat them if he's healthy.

I don't interpret that to mean he will beat them if he's healthy. Just that he can. :shrug:

Roamed
06-30-2010, 07:49 PM
Not Fed's shiniest moment.. his comments have been taken out of context to some extent but saying, "If I'm healthy, I can handle these guys," is rude. He gave a better interview to the BBC a little while afterwards.

RE the last question and his answer, love it :lol: Even though it was just destined to be reported as serious from the moment he said it, every moment someone makes fun of a British journo is a good one for me :yeah:

ZakMcCrack
06-30-2010, 07:55 PM
I used to not like Berdych but his responses to Federer's horseshit make me respect him now

Well, the point is that Berdych didn't exactly get to hear what Fed said but instead some randomly chosen, out of context and order lines from sensationalist journalists. But I can understand Berdych since he lacks experience in dealing with twisted media...;)

Arakasi
06-30-2010, 08:04 PM
Some of the things Roger said in his press conference probably were ill-advised but at the end of the day people are going to make as much drama as they can.

Just a few minutes later he gave this interview to the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/8776313.stm

I doubt that will get anywhere near as much interest seeing as there aren't any soundbites people can create controversy over. I guess that's just the way it is.

I'm actually quite impressed by how much patience most of the pros show; mine would have worn thin a long time ago. I would probably take a Safin/Roddick type approach to press conferences i.e. stop caring.

samanosuke
06-30-2010, 08:10 PM
It's disgusting to see Rafa tards posting in this thread

Ariadne
06-30-2010, 08:11 PM
Being a fan of Roger has really opened my eyes as to how exactly journalists utilize sound bytes to generate sensationalism and controversy where there is none.

homogenius
06-30-2010, 08:12 PM
Classy as always :tape:

He just got outplayed and can't deal with it.

Ouragan
06-30-2010, 08:14 PM
He's aging. Let him get over it. It's not an injury in my book. What a mug this GOAT.

Taniaaa
06-30-2010, 08:15 PM
What a loser this Federer is:o

Fedfanforever
06-30-2010, 08:16 PM
Classy as always :tape:

He just got outplayed and can't deal with it.
At least he didn't pull an injury time out to disrupt his opponent, unlike someone else. He lost like a man, and I consider that classy.

habibko
06-30-2010, 08:17 PM
I can't say Roger's presser was the best I'd hoped for,but some people here are exaggerating as well.
he did have a thigh injury which he talked about after his previous match,and remember the thigh strapping,so it's not like the injury came out of the blue.
btw,quoting one sentence is not fair to the guy.Roger credited the other hard-hitters like Sod and Delpo in his presser as well.
overall,I think he could and should have been more complimentary about Berdych,but some comments are waaaay too harsh on him.

well said, Roger could have given Berdych more credit but great champions are great champions because they hate to lose and can't take losing very well, he always calls it like he sees it and doesn't fake humility, some like him for it and some hate him for it, haters don't need solid grounds to hate on him anyway.

FNT
06-30-2010, 08:18 PM
Roger should STFU. Some sour grapes are allowed, but this is really Serena-esque.

neme6
06-30-2010, 08:18 PM
he may sound bad saying it, but everyone knows it's true, if Fed is perfectly healthy no one can stop him on this surface lol!

thrust
06-30-2010, 08:19 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/rogerfederer/7864187/Wimbledon-2010-Andy-Murray-has-easy-ride-to-victory-says-defeated-Roger-Federer.html

Is this for real, or a joke? Murray will not beat Rafa in the semi finals, this Wimbledon. Roger cannot be serious! Take a month off Roger, you need the rest.

Ariadne
06-30-2010, 08:21 PM
Is this for real, or a joke? Murray will not beat Rafa in the semi finals, this Wimbledon. Roger cannot be serious! Take a month off Roger, you need the rest.

Being a fan of Roger has really opened my eyes as to how exactly journalists utilize sound bytes to generate sensationalism and controversy where there is none.

---

malisha
06-30-2010, 08:22 PM
Federer http://www.zboriste.com/Smileys/classic/sfd.gif

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 08:22 PM
Not Fed's shiniest moment.. his comments have been taken out of context to some extent but saying, "If I'm healthy, I can handle these guys," is rude. He gave a better interview to the BBC a little while afterwards.

RE the last question and his answer, love it :lol: Even though it was just destined to be reported as serious from the moment he said it, every moment someone makes fun of a British journo is a good one for me :yeah:

Well you know, implying Roger is weak is rude, too. I'm putting words in the media's mouth, so to speak, but that's what they were implying.. that Roger's game wasn't big enough anymore.

So... you know... I just think his response was more defending himself than dissing Tomas or any of the other, big, hard-hitting players.

Kworb
06-30-2010, 08:23 PM
Is this for real, or a joke? Murray will not beat Rafa in the semi finals, this Wimbledon. Roger cannot be serious! Take a month off Roger, you need the rest.

Roger was joking. The journalist told him all the great players are playing badly so it's Murray's chance to win the title. Roger mocked him saying that yeah, Nadal, Djokovic etc. are all playing like shit, which obviously isn't true at all.

DrJules
06-30-2010, 08:24 PM
Is this for real, or a joke? Murray will not beat Rafa in the semi finals, this Wimbledon. Roger cannot be serious! Take a month off Roger, you need the rest.

This is so media generated about Murray having an easy ride and not what is meant. The response was sarcastic:

“Respect the players. Obviously Andy is a fantastic player and he’s got all the chances to win here. We all know that.”

MacTheKnife
06-30-2010, 08:26 PM
CLASSic. Actually berd handled him on almost all the critical points..

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 08:27 PM
Is this for real, or a joke? Murray will not beat Rafa in the semi finals, this Wimbledon. Roger cannot be serious! Take a month off Roger, you need the rest.

Well they misquoted him. :lol: Roger was joking around and now it's come back to bite him in the butt.

I'm more offended they think Roger's loss was the biggest upset of the tournament.

I think Andy Roddick's loss was the biggest upset on the men's side. :shrug:

laurie-1
06-30-2010, 08:27 PM
Well you know, implying Roger is weak is rude, too. I'm putting words in the media's mouth, so to speak, but that's what they were implying.. that Roger's game wasn't big enough anymore.

So... you know... I just think his response was more defending himself than dissing Tomas or any of the other, big, hard-hitting players.

Well, if that is the case, you know how the Media just love to stir it up. Maybe Federer should have been more aware than to fall for the trap.

laurie-1
06-30-2010, 08:28 PM
Well they misquoted him. :lol: Roger was joking around and now it's come back to bite him in the butt.

I'm more offended they think Roger's loss was the biggest upset of the tournament.

I think Andy Roddick's loss was the biggest upset on the men's side. :shrug:

Definitely! Andy could have had a 2001 Goran moment.

Persimmon
06-30-2010, 08:29 PM
Federer http://www.zboriste.com/Smileys/classic/sfd.gif

:lol:

Commander Data
06-30-2010, 08:30 PM
Hillarious MTF :lol: great entertainement!!!

Regrading Feds, he is obviously pissed and a bit sour about that loss. Must be painful to lose, when you know you have the game to cruise thru.

Federer just played badly set 3 and 4.

The GOAT is allowed to bitch around. he has earned it.

Sharin
06-30-2010, 08:30 PM
Is this for real, or a joke? Murray will not beat Rafa in the semi finals, this Wimbledon. Roger cannot be serious! Take a month off Roger, you need the rest.

read the whole PC. I can't believe the telegraph,this was clearly a joke.:rolleyes:
and the author obviously knows it,or else s/he wouldn't have omitted the important part where roger said Andy has to do his own work.it was a bad-tempered dig at the journo but not at the players.geez.

oranges
06-30-2010, 08:31 PM
Federer http://www.zboriste.com/Smileys/classic/sfd.gif

:lol: :worship: A picture is worth a thousand words indeed

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 08:31 PM
Well, if that is the case, you know how the Media just love to stir it up. Maybe Federer should have been more aware than to fall for the trap.

You know, I just don't think Roger is good at sarcasm!

It's such a fine line to be able to carry it off. And English isn't his first language, so.. I just think he thought he was doing a good job throwing it back in that reporter's face, and it's coming back to haunt him. Now the British press is just gonna run with it.

I respect his effort! :lol:

But no good deed goes unpunished...

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 08:33 PM
Definitely! Andy could have had a 2001 Goran moment.

Twas not meant to be!

:rolls:

heya
06-30-2010, 08:34 PM
Innocent angel Fed was so naive that he didn't know what he said could annoy anyone. Or maybe NOT.
Just like Federer calling Nadal & Del Potro one-dimensional, then they beat him, soon after choking in other matches. He cried like his dog died at the Australian Open in front of opponent's face.
Those were taken out of context too
Federer claimed he didn't cry because Nadal won Australian. :rolls::spit:

ChinoRios4Ever
06-30-2010, 08:38 PM
Love it when the divas lose, they show their real character and this isn't the exception, bravo Rogelio on being honest. :yeah:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
06-30-2010, 08:40 PM
Gonna love honest speaking from Tomas! :hearts:
Tomas also beat :boxing: Federer in the interview!

nsidhan
06-30-2010, 08:44 PM
You guys calling Fed a sore loser? FO'08, Wimb'08 and AO'09 were his worst losses. And he didn't come out with any complaints back then. Nor did he not give any credit to his opponent (Nadal).

Fed is just being honest and saying things the way he saw it. He is just responding to the reporters questions. Not as if he called a public press conference to announce to the world that he was injured and that Berdych didn't deserve this victory. If the reporters ask him what happened, he will tell them what happened. He has enough hands on tennis expertize to tell whether some shots from Berdych were good/bad/lucky.

This is sports people. You don't have to be nice. He is not in Sunday school.

Ariadne
06-30-2010, 08:44 PM
Gonna love honest speaking from Tomas! :hearts:
Tomas also beat :boxing: Federer in the interview!

Yes, Tomas has great "shadow-boxing" skills since he beat a fabricated, ghost nemesis conjured up by the journo-jackals.

Sharin
06-30-2010, 08:45 PM
You know, I just don't think Roger is good at sarcasm!

It's such a fine line to be able to carry it off. And English isn't his first language, so.. I just think he thought he was doing a good job throwing it back in that reporter's face, and it's coming back to haunt him. Now the British press is just gonna run with it.

I respect his effort! :lol:

But no good deed goes unpunished...

it doesn't have much to do with his english.
english is not my 1st language either and the moment I read that comment I could tell he was making an 'angry joke'.the media most definitely knows this,but why would they care? they want their story.

people here say it's nothing new that Fed's being "classless" in defeat. but I'd say one thing that is not new is exaggerating/twisting whatever Roger says/does.I'm a fan of Roger,I don't think he's perfect and I do think he could have done a much better job in the presser,but did he really deserve all these harsh comments? there are many more losses in Roger's career where he's given full credit to his opponents,do people forget those? isn't he (or any other player for the matter)entitled to be po'd once in a while? Roger's press conference back in AO 09 wasn't great either,he didn't give Rafa credit the way he should have,but once he got over himself he showered Rafa with praise for his preformance there at least in 3,4 interviews.do the people who trash him at times like this also mention those interviews?
btw,I wonder if there was so much backlash on this forum when Rafa cited knee injury as the reason for his loss to RS?

Commander Data
06-30-2010, 08:46 PM
This might all be very good for Fed. I hope people question him even more. that might relight his fire. He is still young enough for a second wind.

Persimmon
06-30-2010, 08:50 PM
This might all be very good for Fed. I hope people question him even more. that might relight his fire. He is still young enough for a second wind.

Yeah. He might win the USO after all.

Commander Data
06-30-2010, 08:52 PM
Yeah. He might win the USO after all.

Positive. Very possible. His form was in steady decline. This rough defeats might help him find the mental bite to give it all again. Feddie bear needs some pain to get nasty again. he was being to clam in defeats lately anyway.

JolánGagó
06-30-2010, 08:53 PM
You guys calling Fed a sore loser? FO'08, Wimb'08 and AO'09 were his worst losses. And he didn't come out with any complaints back then. Nor did he not give any credit to his opponent (Nadal).

Fed is just being honest and saying things the way he saw it. He is just responding to the reporters questions. Not as if he called a public press conference to announce to the world that he was injured and that Berdych didn't deserve this victory. If the reporters ask him what happened, he will tell them what happened. He has enough hands on tennis expertize to tell whether some shots from Berdych were good/bad/lucky.

This is sports people. You don't have to be nice. He is not in Sunday school.

No.

e476
06-30-2010, 08:53 PM
Gonna love honest speaking from Tomas! :hearts:
Tomas also beat :boxing: Federer in the interview!
This. :worship: Tomas, you're my hero. :bowdown:

heya
06-30-2010, 08:55 PM
After Roddick broke Federer's serve at 5-4 in Cincinnati,
he was too injured to
keep the ball in play.
Federer said he enjoyed playing Roddick
and "not because I beat him".
You've got to be incredibly delusional
to think Roddick wasn't
insulted by that comment.

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 08:56 PM
it doesn't have much to do with his english.
english is not my 1st language either and the moment I read that comment I could tell he was making an 'angry joke'.the media most definitely knows this,but why would they care? they want their story.

people here say it's nothing new that Fed's being "classless" in defeat. but I'd say one thing that is not new is exaggerating/twisting whatever Roger says/does.I'm a fan of Roger,I don't think he's perfect and I do think he could have done a much better job in the presser,but did he really deserve all these harsh comments? there are many more losses in Roger's career where he's given full credit to his opponents,do people forget those? isn't he (or any other player for the matter)entitled to be po'd once in a while? Roger's press conference back in AO 09 wasn't great either,he didn't give Rafa credit the way he should have,but once he got over himself he showered Rafa with praise for his preformance there at least in 3,4 interviews.do the people who trash him at times like this also mention those interviews?
btw,I wonder if there was so much backlash on this forum when Rafa cited knee injury as the reason for his loss to RS?

Well... you know, people like to kick others when they're down. I mean... it's weird the media spends all this time building up a champion, then can't wait for him/her to fall, so they can have something else to sell.

I just don't think this presser was that bad. I don't think Roger is used to being sarcastic and in the moment didn't realize his words were gonna be twisted. After all, he's relatively "new" to not being in grand slam finals. So... for the media to be asking him... who the favorite is... blah, blah, blah.. well... you know he's not used to coming up with answers. Until just moments before the presser, he thought HE was the favorite, you know?

So...I just think people are going nuts with this.. and now Tomas thinks Roger was dissing him, so he dissed Roger back! :rolls:

Guy Haines
06-30-2010, 08:58 PM
Now fans of other players can begin to experience the refined sophisticated sporting joy of Federer's post-loss classy insight at majors.

To be honest, I see Berdych as the player closest to Rafa in beating Federer when it has counted. He's the closest player to Rafa in their generation in that regard.

True, Nole did it once, at the Australian, so he could be an equal. But he eventually became an underling. Murray has only beaten Federer in seasonal tourneys.

Berdych beat Federer at the Olympics (Federer hasn't won a singles Gold there) and now he he's given him his most resounding loss at Wimbledon. Today's result is Tomas finally living up to the promise he showed at the Olympics. In a way those matches come close to framing Federer's truest glory years.

Guy Haines
06-30-2010, 09:01 PM
T. Berdych - 30 June 2010
Wednesday, 30 June 2010


Q. Roger said he had some physical problems; that his back and leg were bothering him. What did you notice and what is your reaction to him saying that?

TOMAS BERDYCH: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if he just looking for some excuses after the match or something like that. I mean, it happened to all of us. You know, I think he's been every time when he played, he was I think hundred percent ready.

So maybe right now he's getting some more troubles with the health. But, you know, I think it just happen today. So I didn't know that. I just heard it first time like you said it right now. So, yeah, just to him hope that he's gonna get back soon and that's it what I can just wish him.

Q. He also said he was unlucky and that he definitely gave the match away. What are your thoughts about that?

TOMAS BERDYCH: I don't know in which point he was saying that he was unlucky, if any specific moment or something.

Q. He was saying generally or on big points.

TOMAS BERDYCH: Okay. I mean, yeah, maybe you can take it for both ways. You can say that he was unlucky or you can say that maybe the opponent was a little bit better and he just won the big points against him. In his position, then he lost the match.

You know, I think, yeah, he's a great player. I mean, but still, I mean, when I just read some newspapers in the morning, I was not surprised, but, you know, to heard something from him to the way that he's fine, nothing is bothering him. When we played the last match, I lost. But last time in Wimbledon, I won pretty easily. You know, stuff like that.

You know, I saw him quite first time from him the reactions like that. So whatever. I'm in different position. I'm just enjoying the win today, and this is just everything behind me.



:worship:

Yes.

thrust
06-30-2010, 09:01 PM
Roger was joking. The journalist told him all the great players are playing badly so it's Murray's chance to win the title. Roger mocked him saying that yeah, Nadal, Djokovic etc. are all playing like shit, which obviously isn't true at all.

Glad to hear that, otherwise, Roger really would have lost it-LOL!!

Topspin Forehand
06-30-2010, 09:04 PM
he may sound bad saying it, but everyone knows it's true, if Fed is perfectly healthy no one can stop him on this surface lol!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-7baRCPEJI&feature=related

ShotmaKer
06-30-2010, 09:05 PM
fedhaters making up for all the rafahaters comments the other day. then people gets surprised at the hatred towards their fav players every now and again.

star
06-30-2010, 09:07 PM
You guys calling Fed a sore loser? FO'08, Wimb'08 and AO'09 were his worst losses. And he didn't come out with any complaints back then. Nor did he not give any credit to his opponent (Nadal).

Fed is just being honest and saying things the way he saw it. He is just responding to the reporters questions. Not as if he called a public press conference to announce to the world that he was injured and that Berdych didn't deserve this victory. If the reporters ask him what happened, he will tell them what happened. He has enough hands on tennis expertize to tell whether some shots from Berdych were good/bad/lucky.

This is sports people. You don't have to be nice. He is not in Sunday school.

First, Are you seriously saying that Federer was a gracious loser AO '09????? He bawled like a baby during the trophy presentation for god's sake. This is not being a gracious loser. Thank goodness Nadal was a gracious winner and smoothed everything over so effortlessly.

Second, did you see the video of the interview? Federer was angry and pissed and barely civil at times. He may have been honest, but he wasn't "just being honest and answering the reporters questions." There was bite to it all the way through.

I, personally, don't think that Federer was particularly bad in the interview. He was obviously angry and upset and not happy to be answering what he considered stupid questions, but let's not dress it up in halos and truth telling either.

I think it was a very difficult time for Federer because not only did he lose the match, he lost a lot of ranking points as well. He's probably thinking of the year end number one as well as the Wimbledon title. Also, I think he was under intense pressure at this tournament because if he lost, and he knew losing was a good possibility after Halle, it was going to be difficult to regain the number one spot. And then after losing in the quarters, he had to be thinking about the pressure that was still to come.

No wonder all he could think about was vacation and not thinking about tennis.

But, will I laugh and point at the loss? :banana: You bet.

Topspin Forehand
06-30-2010, 09:08 PM
fedhaters making up for all the rafahaters comments the other day. then people gets surprised at the hatred towards their fav players every now and again.
If Fed wasn't such a sore loser, he wouldn't have as many haters. His fans are bitter of Nadal as well because he beats their hero.

Guy Haines
06-30-2010, 09:09 PM
Quite amazing interview from Tomas, over the last few years he's shown how much respect he's had for Roger, but after hearing what Fed said in his press conference u can clearly tell he's kinda shocked and sad in a way I mean come on, Tomas has done nothing but credit Federer for his whole career. FFS even when he lost to him at the AO he gave the credit to Roger even though everyone knew he clearly choked the match away.

But I'm very glad about the way he handled it, very impressive Tomas :yeah:

The changing nature of his competitive relationships with Federer and Nadal might be something to keep tabs on.

Ariadne
06-30-2010, 09:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-7baRCPEJI&feature=related


"perfectly healthy" -- Aus Open 2009 defeat yes, this match on this surface -- not so much.

careergrandslam
06-30-2010, 09:09 PM
leave roger alone clowns. if u watched the whole video of his conference he didnt sound as arrogant as reading it on a paper.
as typical the mug british media overhyping and trying to create fights between players.
remember how they were all over rafa because he didnt meet the old fossil queen....

federer is being honest, when he is firing there is no man on this planet that can hang with him on grass and hard.
not even rafa in his pomp can take down a firing federer on grass and hard.

i have no problem with what roger said.
i have no problem with rafa taking medical timeouts aswell.

these are irrelevant issues.

star
06-30-2010, 09:11 PM
fedhaters making up for all the rafahaters comments the other day. then people gets surprised at the hatred towards their fav players every now and again.

And the years and years of fedfans making it miserable for all who supported another player. :dance:

I could have far more sympathy for a declining champion were it not for the many Federer fans -- not just this year or last year, but ever since about 2002 who have gloated and worshiped and stomped on anyone who had the tiniest bit of criticism for FedGod.

Guy Haines
06-30-2010, 09:11 PM
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g239/GeorgeWH/8476_view.jpg

:lol: Indeed.

Topspin Forehand
06-30-2010, 09:12 PM
"perfectly healthy" -- Aus Open 2009 defeat yes, this match on this surface -- not so much.
Roger was perfectly healthy. Maybe not enough training going into Wimbledon but he wasn't hurting. If anything, it was Nadal's knee that was hurting as he hurt himself in the 3rd set.

Guy Haines
06-30-2010, 09:12 PM
http://image.dnevnik.hr/media/images///520xX/Jun2010//60338431.jpg

No words or emoticons can do this image justice.

Commander Data
06-30-2010, 09:13 PM
If Fed wasn't such a sore loser, he wouldn't have as many haters. His fans are bitter of Nadal as well because he beats their hero.

oh C'mon!! that is BS! Fed has so many haters because he has 16 Slams. disliked Sampras back then when he was winning so much and I was rooting for other players. It just can annoy you to death when a guy wins with so ease and so much. people are just jealous. Fed can never say a wrong word he would still have lots of haters here on MTF.

ShotmaKer
06-30-2010, 09:13 PM
If Fed wasn't such a sore loser, he wouldn't have as many haters. His fans are bitter of Nadal as well because he beats their hero.

whatever dude. remains a fact, Nadal got a lot of hateful uncalled for comments after his match against Petzchner, and this is just how the Fed haters make up for these comments.

star
06-30-2010, 09:13 PM
No words or emoticons can do this image justice.

But to be fair that was after a reporter asked him something he thought was so stupid he could barely bare to answer it. :lol:

ORGASMATRON
06-30-2010, 09:14 PM
Positive. Very possible. His form was in steady decline. This rough defeats might help him find the mental bite to give it all again. Feddie bear needs some pain to get nasty again. he was being to clam in defeats lately anyway.

i hope your right. i have given the GOAT till the end of the year before i drawy any serious conclusions. i dont think he is currently on the right path, but if he wins the USO he will have redeemed himself. if not, then some very serious questions needs to be asked.

as for the quote, im not crazy about it. it still borders on denial and and smacks of stubbornness. but lets hope what he is saying is true somehow.

federer has always said it the way it is and tennis is obviously not a people pleasing contest. deal with it tards.

Commander Data
06-30-2010, 09:15 PM
fedhaters making up for all the rafahaters comments the other day. then people gets surprised at the hatred towards their fav players every now and again.

Yeah it is just a circle (i don't even care much anymore) Next time Rafa loses or has a problem the Rafahaters will raise again and so on. It is more a tard-war then anything else..:o

Topspin Forehand
06-30-2010, 09:15 PM
whatever dude. remains a fact, Nadal got a lot of hateful uncalled for comments after his match against Petzchner, and this is just how the Fed haters make up for these comments.
This is how tennis forums go. You lose, you get hated on some. Sometimes a lot if you are bitter after a loss in the interviews.

Dimitra
06-30-2010, 09:16 PM
If Fed wasn't so successful, he wouldn't have as many haters.Most of his haters are bitter of him as well because he has more slams than Nadal and is considered to be GOAT.

fixed it for you.:wavey:

ShotmaKer
06-30-2010, 09:16 PM
And the years and years of fedfans making it miserable for all who supported another player. :dance:

I could have far more sympathy for a declining champion were it not for the many Federer fans -- not just this year or last year, but ever since about 2002 who have gloated and worshiped and stomped on anyone who had the tiniest bit of criticism for FedGod.

and that's understandable. well, that is from your vantage point. Fed fans may have another way to look at it. bottom line is there are jerks and morons in each and every fan base.

Commander Data
06-30-2010, 09:17 PM
i hope your right. i have given the GOAT till the end of the year before i drawy any serious conclusions. i dont think he is currently on the right path, but if he wins the USO he will have redeemed himself. if not, then some very serious questions needs to be asked.

as for the quote, im not crazy about it. it still borders on denial and and smacks of stubbornness. but lets hope what he is saying is true somehow.

federer has always said it the way it is and tennis is obviously not a people pleasing contest. deal with it tards.

I'm 100% certain the Federer will strike back. He is just too good, intelligent and too young not to.

Fedfanforever
06-30-2010, 09:19 PM
whatever dude. remains a fact, Nadal got a lot of hateful uncalled for comments after his match against Petzchner, and this is just how the Fed haters make up for these comments.
The comments were true, definately not uncalled for.

FedFan
06-30-2010, 09:20 PM
At least Federer ist not cheating and hindering his opponent to play his best tennis during a match, unlike Nadull.

star
06-30-2010, 09:21 PM
and that's understandable. well, that is from your vantage point. Fed fans may have another way to look at it. bottom line is there are jerks and morons in each and every fan base.

You joined this board in 2007.

You weren't here during the Fed Glory Years. I'm sure Fed fans do look at it another way. Probably they were only being honest and telling it like it was.

But for a long time here there was no Nadal around who could challenge Federer. I'll agree that in the last few years, Nadal fans have given as good as they've gotten, but it wasn't always like that. As for me, I know that everyone who rises also falls.

ORGASMATRON
06-30-2010, 09:24 PM
I'm 100% certain the Federer will strike back. He is just too good, intelligent and too young not to.

yeah thats why im not gonna criticize him too heavily at least until the end of the year. there is no doubt to me he still has the game and that this aging thing is overrated. he just need to get his together somehow.

FedFan
06-30-2010, 09:24 PM
Boris Becker also mentioned, there was something wrong with Roger while commenting the match.

Sharin
06-30-2010, 09:24 PM
Roger was perfectly healthy. Maybe not enough training going into Wimbledon but he wasn't hurting. If anything, it was Nadal's knee that was hurting as he hurt himself in the 3rd set.

did you watch Roger's 2nd round match?
didn't you see that his thigh was strapped?
didn't you read his previous PC where he was asked about it and he mentioned the injury?
...or you are just assuming Fed's lying because he's not your fav?

ShotmaKer
06-30-2010, 09:25 PM
This is how tennis forums go. You lose, you get hated on some. Sometimes a lot if you are bitter after a loss in the interviews.

true that. about the bitterness, some people love to make it look bigger than it actually is. but that's a hater thing. some people are just rejoicing over the fact that he lost and enjoying the occasion to call him a sore loser. again, many Nadal fans were frustrated, and rightfully so, with all the badmouthing towards Rafa a few days ago. so today was too good for some of them to just let go.

The comments were true, definately not uncalled for.

a lot of them were uncalled for.

Wolfy
06-30-2010, 09:27 PM
http://i47.tinypic.com/f5afwz.jpg

heya
06-30-2010, 09:28 PM
Berdych already noticed Federer's not-so-high self-esteem.
All he had to do was look at his body language & scowl.
There's no need for media manipulation.
Federer used sarcasm in TV shows in Europe & Tennis Channel, so
I'm sure he knows his familiar English insults.

cobalt60
06-30-2010, 09:29 PM
Doesn't matter what he says; he still lost so he can rationalize anyway he wants.

cobalt60
06-30-2010, 09:30 PM
Berdych already noticed Federer's not-so-high self-esteem.
All he had to do was look at his body language & scowl.
There's no need for media manipulation.
Federer used sarcasm in TV shows in Europe & Tennis Channel, so
I'm sure he knows his familiar English insults.

Would you consider a Haiku poem please?

Fedfanforever
06-30-2010, 09:30 PM
a lot of them were uncalled for.
It's about time people realize that Nadal's knee injuries only flare up when he's losing. :rolleyes:
Anyways, Roger didn't give the best interview, but everything he said is true.

ShotmaKer
06-30-2010, 09:30 PM
You joined this board in 2007.

You weren't here during the Fed Glory Years. I'm sure Fed fans do look at it another way. Probably they were only being honest and telling it like it was.

But for a long time here there was no Nadal around who could challenge Federer. I'll agree that in the last few years, Nadal fans have given as good as they've gotten, but it wasn't always like that. As for me, I know that everyone who rises also falls.

I do believe you. I used to post on another board before I joined this one. The site was closed though, otherwise I wouldn't have joined MTF. But it had its own share of Nadal fans/haters/tards as well as Federer fans/haters/tards as well. I couldn't agree more about the last sentences.

Andi-M
06-30-2010, 09:40 PM
Toys out of pram after a Fed loss? We've never seen that before have we?

Big respect to Berych handled Fed very well on and off court.

star
06-30-2010, 09:43 PM
At least Federer ist not cheating and hindering his opponent to play his best tennis during a match, unlike Nadull.



You just cling to that. :hug: :hug:

star
06-30-2010, 09:44 PM
I do believe you. I used to post on another board before I joined this one. The site was closed though, otherwise I wouldn't have joined MTF. But it had its own share of Nadal fans/haters/tards as well as Federer fans/haters/tards as well. I couldn't agree more about the last sentences.

Really? Before 2005. Don't think that's possible.

ShotmaKer
06-30-2010, 09:48 PM
Really? Before 2005. Don't think that's possible.

I joined that other board in 2004 and stayed until 2007, obviously. Yes there were, I recall myself having a few arguments with some Nadal tards before the site got closed.

star
06-30-2010, 09:49 PM
I joined that other board in 2004 and stayed until 2007, obviously. Yes there were, I recall myself having a few arguments with some Nadal tards before the site got closed.

My point is about 2005 and before.

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 09:50 PM
It's about time people realize that Nadal's knee injuries only flare up when he's losing. :rolleyes:
Anyways, Roger didn't give the best interview, but everything he said is true.

Why do you give Roger the benefit of the doubt not Rafa?

For how long now has Rafa looked like the shadow of his former self?

Whether it be his knees, his family problems or the fact his confidence took a hit, I wasn't really sure Rafa was going to come back. He looked "scared" there for a while.

Besides, a player is only as good as his last win. It's really all about the moment.

I learned this lesson with Guga. It was really sad to watch him being "dropshot-ed" to death by another top player whose name escapes me at the moment after Guga had his first hip surgery.
It was really difficult--almost embarrassing to see Guga struggle. But the truth was Guga wasn't the same player at all. He may have had the same talent, but he wasn't the same player able to execute "his game."

So... injuries do matter; at the same time, a loss is a loss. Sure, Guga's bad hip affected his game, but that's not the other players' "fault," if you will. What were they supposed to do about it--give him a running start in the score or something?

I just don't understand why everybody is all "ish" about the injury thing. Whatever the reason be for losing, it's still a loss.

I just think Roger and Rafa both have played enough tennis in their lives to where yeah, it's not that far of a stretch to say they might have some chronic injuries.. or some acute injuries.

And tournament promoters are going to do everything they can to keep them from retiring from matches when everybody has paid money to see them play. So for sure, a promoter might bend the rules if a player of their caliber and any other player for that matter might need to attend to an injury.

Mike_Hunt
06-30-2010, 09:50 PM
Wow, Federer is pressed just like his fans. :lol: He was never classy anyway. It's easy to be nice when you're winning, but your true colours show when you start losing. :cool: Please retire now. It's time.

ShotmaKer
06-30-2010, 09:52 PM
My point is about 2005 and before.

Sorry, I did misread your post. That was not before 2005, obviously.

Schu
06-30-2010, 09:53 PM
Idiots, try to understand the context of the question in relation to the answer:

Even in context the remark is still arrogant and classless, (and probably not true). And has been pointed out in Roger's own words if you walk on the court, you are fit enough to play.

It's always hard to deal with "getting old" but many players deal with it better than Roger appears to be dealing with it.

FairWeatherFan
06-30-2010, 10:00 PM
Give me Federer's honesty over Mugboar's exaggerated, embarrassing modesty any day,

Quakes
06-30-2010, 10:00 PM
The opinion of the modern/futuristic medical society is that AGING is the most prevalent form of illness.

So yeah, he is getting a bit sick. :p

star
06-30-2010, 10:05 PM
It's about time people realize that Nadal's knee injuries only flare up when he's losing. :rolleyes:
Anyways, Roger didn't give the best interview, but everything he said is true.

How do you know that everything he said was true? No one knows that.

Players do lose because they are injured or something is off. That's a fact of life. This certainly is not the first time Federer has said that he lost because of illness or injury, and I'm sure it won't be the last. I can't think of a Federer loss where he hasn't claimed injury or illness. Maybe he doesn't say it right away, but it comes out later.

I also think this is true of Rafa -- of course, he has some personal upsets too that contributed to his losses. And he also sometimes doesn't say something right away but says it later.

So, all of this is pot, kettle, black, in my opinion.

Soderling to his credit was pretty good humored in his press conference. That sort of reads to me as if he didn't think he would win anyway, but when he was given the chance to blame his loss on injury -- he said it was just his little toe and unimportant. I think of Isner playing for hours on end with two blistered little toes, and I'm sure Mahut was suffering with physical issues too.

ShotmaKer
06-30-2010, 10:11 PM
How do you know that everything he said was true? No one knows that.

Players do lose because they are injured or something is off. That's a fact of life. This certainly is not the first time Federer has said that he lost because of illness or injury, and I'm sure it won't be the last. I can't think of a Federer loss where he hasn't claimed injury or illness. Maybe he doesn't say it right away, but it comes out later.

I also think this is true of Rafa -- of course, he has some personal upsets too that contributed to his losses. And he also sometimes doesn't say something right away but says it later.

So, all of this is pot, kettle, black, in my opinion.

Soderling to his credit was pretty good humored in his press conference. That sort of reads to me as if he didn't think he would win anyway, but when he was given the chance to blame his loss on injury -- he said it was just his little toe and unimportant. I think of Isner playing for hours on end with two blistered little toes, and I'm sure Mahut was suffering with physical issues too.

now you can't be serious. what did he say after AO SF 2005 ? or Monte Carlo QF 2005 ? dude gave props to Gasquet and named him as one of the best talent for the future of tennis, and considered his match against Marat as one of the best he's played. he did not come up with any injury excuse as a matter of fact.

heya
06-30-2010, 10:13 PM
Roddick sent Isner a massage therapist.
Fedcrow should get Roddick's restaurant food & massage guy too.
Maybe DaddyFed will get over his exaggerated, embarrassing modesty. Mugboar's watching & learning. ;)

Har-Tru
06-30-2010, 10:15 PM
Unnecessary.

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 10:15 PM
Roddick sent Isner a massage therapist.
Fedcrow should get Roddick's restaurant food & massage guy too.
Maybe DaddyFed will get over his exaggerated, embarrassing modesty. Mugboar's watching & learning. :wink:

Mmmmmm interesting! Where do you find-out all this stuff?

Heya, who's your favorite player?

DrJules
06-30-2010, 10:15 PM
How do you know that everything he said was true? No one knows that.

Players do lose because they are injured or something is off. That's a fact of life. This certainly is not the first time Federer has said that he lost because of illness or injury, and I'm sure it won't be the last. I can't think of a Federer loss where he hasn't claimed injury or illness. Maybe he doesn't say it right away, but it comes out later.

I also think this is true of Rafa -- of course, he has some personal upsets too that contributed to his losses. And he also sometimes doesn't say something right away but says it later.

So, all of this is pot, kettle, black, in my opinion.

Soderling to his credit was pretty good humored in his press conference. That sort of reads to me as if he didn't think he would win anyway, but when he was given the chance to blame his loss on injury -- he said it was just his little toe and unimportant. I think of Isner playing for hours on end with two blistered little toes, and I'm sure Mahut was suffering with physical issues too.

Over injury I feel Nadal was more sensible on court when he called an injury time out and treatment against Petzchner while Federer did not. If he had a back problem Federer should have called the trainer for two reasons firstly to deal with his condition and secondly it possibly could have stopped the flow of Berdych. Nadal possibly saved himself with that decision.

star
06-30-2010, 10:26 PM
now you can't be serious. what did he say after AO SF 2005 ? or Monte Carlo QF 2005 ? dude gave props to Gasquet and named him as one of the best talent for the future of tennis, and considered his match against Marat as one of the best he's played. he did not come up with any injury excuse as a matter of fact.

I said I couldn't think of a loss where he hadn't claimed injury or illness. So I'll give you those two. Any others?

Nidhogg
06-30-2010, 10:29 PM
This is contradictory when you take his comments about whoever not being fit should get out of here, but who cares. He has always dealt with losses in this way, and he has done quite well doing so. It works to a high extent for him.

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 10:30 PM
The opinion of the modern/futuristic medical society is that AGING is the most prevalent form of illness.

So yeah, he is getting a bit sick. :p

I hate to tell you but we're ALL getting a bit sick...some sicker than others.;)

heya
06-30-2010, 10:34 PM
I just cheer more for any player with entertaining matches.
now: -berdych is bringin' steel nerves, - nadal

SaFed2005
06-30-2010, 10:35 PM
ROGER FEDERER: Uhm, well, I mean, I don't think I played poorly. But, uhm, I think he went after it.

ROGER FEDERER: I think he's been able to play more consistent last year or so.

ROGER FEDERER: Like I said, I think he was a bit more consistent than in the past. I lost to him in Miami this year, where it was a really tight match as well.

ROGER FEDERER: You know, he played well when he had to. It was brutal for me. Every time he had a chance, he took it. On the breakpoints, he played great on those.

ROGER FEDERER: 30‑All he got it on the line over and over again. I just felt like I couldn't create enough chances to really get the breakthrough.

says it like it was... berdych was the better player today.