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Wimbledon QF: Nadal Overcomes Soderling 3-6 6-3 7-6(4) 6-1

.-Federers_Mate-.
06-30-2010, 05:05 PM
Soderlings level dropped completely after the first set. Really passive and a unforced error machine..nadal did what he had to do

MrChopin
06-30-2010, 05:06 PM
What was the score of the final game?

***

Yay, pig jumps around! Soderking injured, Ferrer did his job, Toni will give him his dog biscuit.

Action Jackson
06-30-2010, 05:06 PM
Not done.

Rafaspin
06-30-2010, 05:06 PM
:worship:

azinna
06-30-2010, 05:07 PM
Solid. Me gusta mucho el nivel de Rafa.

.-Federers_Mate-.
06-30-2010, 05:07 PM
What was the score of the final game?

40-30

MalwareDie
06-30-2010, 05:07 PM
Soderling sucked out there.

Billups85
06-30-2010, 05:07 PM
Vamos Rafito!!

federernadalfan
06-30-2010, 05:08 PM
hmm
rafa looks like he has his eyes set on that wimbledon trophy
good match

Rafaspin
06-30-2010, 05:08 PM
You posted a minute before match point was settled.

The Freak
06-30-2010, 05:08 PM
That forehand is looking pretty deadly. Good aggressive tennis from Rafa.

TennisOnWood
06-30-2010, 05:08 PM
Do your best haters.. DO YOUR BLOODY BEST

Rafa :worship::worship:

nashty
06-30-2010, 05:08 PM
Sod faded after the first set. Must be the foot.:rolleyes:

Topspin Forehand
06-30-2010, 05:08 PM
Nadal loving the grass. The faster the better. :D

Ben.
06-30-2010, 05:08 PM
Scary stuff for most of the 1st set but Rafa turned it on in the 2nd and in 3rd despite the blip while serving for it. The 4th however was a total Soderling meltdown.

.-Federers_Mate-.
06-30-2010, 05:08 PM
You posted a minute before match point was settled.

i posted it just as rafa served at 40-30. Was nid

ORGASMATRON
06-30-2010, 05:09 PM
nadal is winning wimby now.

dombrfc
06-30-2010, 05:09 PM
Better player won.

l_mac
06-30-2010, 05:09 PM
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That is all.

JolánGagó
06-30-2010, 05:09 PM
gotta luv deluded Rafahatas foaming at the mouth :haha:


Yay, pig jumps around! Soderking injured, Ferrer did his job, Toni will give him his dog biscuit.

:spit:

The Pro
06-30-2010, 05:10 PM
Never in doooooooooooubt! :cool:

Soderling tried to win ugly, and got schooled. :wavey:

l_mac
06-30-2010, 05:10 PM
Wait, I forgot:

:sport: :sport: :sport: :sport: :sport:
:sport: :sport: :sport: :sport: :sport:
:sport: :sport: :sport: :sport: :sport:
:sport: :sport: :sport: :sport: :sport:

Jagermeister
06-30-2010, 05:10 PM
Vamos Rafa.

Let the excuses start flying...

Orka_n
06-30-2010, 05:10 PM
Soderling started out really well, then Nadal woke up and outplayed a declining Robin in the second. Set 3 and 4 was just awful tennis, especially from Soderling. Robin's battery ran out in the last set, too. Sad to watch. :sad:

brent-o
06-30-2010, 05:10 PM
Excellent match from Rafa. But what the hell happened to Soderling? Was it just me or was he not hitting his ground strokes as hard especially off the backhand side?

Pfloyd
06-30-2010, 05:10 PM
Good stuff Rafa :yeah:

Soderking? :spit:

BodyServe
06-30-2010, 05:10 PM
A week ago, we were witnessing the greatest moments in tennis history, funny how quickly things change.

JolánGagó
06-30-2010, 05:10 PM
Cheater got what he had to get, a total trashing.

Cheater go hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo me :lol:

Certinfy
06-30-2010, 05:11 PM
Soderling was injured, match isn't legit.

coonster14
06-30-2010, 05:11 PM
VAMOS RAFA!!! now i am so hoping for a battle in the final between my 2 favourite players: nadal and djokovic, that would be my early birthday present!!! :D

philosophicalarf
06-30-2010, 05:11 PM
Could have been a terrific match, but Soderling clearly wasn't fit. His tactics were correct given that: to come out and blow Nadal off the court in straights, but he couldn't keep it going after 5-0.

Chair Umpire
06-30-2010, 05:11 PM
Better player won. Congrats Rafa.

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-30-2010, 05:11 PM
Nadal is playing his best tennis, vamooooooooos

Sod played great, good luck to him next tours.

scarecrows
06-30-2010, 05:11 PM
solid from Nadal

he was more agressive in the 2nd and 3d sets but then opted for more defensive play because Soderling went on a UE spree

Rafaspin
06-30-2010, 05:11 PM
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That's awesome. :yeah:

Action Jackson
06-30-2010, 05:12 PM
Cheater got what he had to get, a total trashing.

Cheater go hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo me :lol:

So cheater defeated cheater then. Fair match.

Fedexex
06-30-2010, 05:12 PM
Soderking:(:hug:

Thats what you get for wasting time in your previous match:rolleyes:

Topspin Forehand
06-30-2010, 05:12 PM
Nadal is playing his best tennis, vamooooooooos

Sod played great, good luck to him next tours.
I thought he played better against Mathieu but still getting it done.

tangerine_dream
06-30-2010, 05:12 PM
Now would be a good time to bust out a Djokovic-style celebration. Vamos, Rafa!

http://i28.tinypic.com/x1wqiv.jpg

rocketassist
06-30-2010, 05:13 PM
Props to Nadal for coming through, though he owes Ferrer a big paycheck.

Come on Andy.

tennisfan856
06-30-2010, 05:13 PM
You posted a minute before match point was settled.

this is the same poster who posted a final scoreline for the Isner/mahut match when it was in the 30's.

MrChopin
06-30-2010, 05:13 PM
i posted it just as rafa served at 40-30. Was nid

Not a chance, clown. It just went to 40-15 when you posted. ATP scoreboard was behind. A magic satellite?

born_on_clay
06-30-2010, 05:13 PM
dedicated to all haters once again :haha:
great stuff from Rafa
hope knees are ok

gorgo1986
06-30-2010, 05:14 PM
Wait, I forgot:

:sport: :sport: :sport: :sport: :sport:
:sport: :sport: :sport: :sport: :sport:
:sport: :sport: :sport: :sport: :sport:


I agree may I add :worship:

VAMOS RAFA!!!!

Soderling was a bit tired in that fourth set. Still great year for him.

henke007
06-30-2010, 05:14 PM
Claycourt Tennis won and tennis died!!

If Rafa hadn't caught 2 outsidelines in the 3rd set breaker maybe things could have been different. Soda ran out of gas in the 4th set completely.

Looked so good in the beginning but after the match progressed Soda didn't serve good enough and didn't return as good and made to many UE while Rafa just pushed and pushed with no errors!!

marvin0211
06-30-2010, 05:14 PM
nadal is winning wimby now.

nice turnaround tard:rolleyes:

The Magician
06-30-2010, 05:14 PM
Soda tanked the last set, but I'm glad he pissed off the Nadulltards getting a taste of gamesmanship before leaving. Hope Murray puts Nadull in his place on Friday and NAdull withdraws again with a mysterious injury like at AO :o

Björki
06-30-2010, 05:14 PM
Rafa :worship:

Robin :hug: :awww:

Polikarpov
06-30-2010, 05:15 PM
This title is Nadal's to lose. It's tough to beat him once his game settles on the grass, especially during the second week where bounce are much higher.

Soderking, keep up the consistency!

Langers
06-30-2010, 05:15 PM
Nadal was incredible. Amazing quality from Rafito.

ORGASMATRON
06-30-2010, 05:15 PM
this is now just an ordinary rivalry. sad.

JolánGagó
06-30-2010, 05:15 PM
hatas, suck it up! ;)

NADALbULLS
06-30-2010, 05:15 PM
The days when people are allowed to say Nadal relies on clay for his titles are about to be over. Multiple Wimbledon champion on the way :yeah:

rafa_maniac
06-30-2010, 05:16 PM
I said before the match that people were misjudging Rafa's form and I stand by it now. He's playing really well and it's going to take a huge performance to stop him.

Topspin Forehand
06-30-2010, 05:16 PM
Soda tanked the last set, but I'm glad he pissed off the Nadulltards getting a taste of gamesmanship before leaving. Hope Murray puts Nadull in his place on Friday and NAdull withdraws again with a mysterious injury like at AO :o
Nadal did it early in the set while Sod did it at then end of the set. Big difference.

Jagermeister
06-30-2010, 05:16 PM
Soda tanked the last set, but I'm glad he pissed off the Nadulltards getting a taste of gamesmanship before leaving. Hope Murray puts Nadull in his place on Friday and NAdull withdraws again with a mysterious injury like at AO :o

LOL My favorite hater reply so far :)

Nadull, really? That's so 2007. I think "cheater" is the new one you should be using!

NADALbULLS
06-30-2010, 05:17 PM
I said before the match that people were misjudging Rafa's form and I stand by it now. He's playing really well and it's going to take a huge performance to stop him.

People refused to believe how great Haase and Petz were serving. They were serving better than Soderling, for darn sure!

Sunset of Age
06-30-2010, 05:17 PM
A very slow start from Rafa saw him behind 1-5 in the first set, but there already were signs of a big change coming about, and it did! Still by far not the best level of play by him, but it wasn't necessary either so who cares. DF'ing to hand back the break for instance... oops. :o Still, who cares when you're winning anyhows.
Congrats, Rafa, can't see anyone stopping you from reaching the final now. :hatoff: :yeah:

After Sod's struggle with Ferrer, this is about how I expected the match to go, but it turned out to be even worse for Sod. He got very much exposed as a serve-only wonder in this match; serve gone -> game over. :shrug:

And eh, I hope something will be done about taking MTOs at obviously wrong moments in the match. :(

Chair Umpire
06-30-2010, 05:18 PM
:hug: @ Haters. A hard day, huh? :sad:

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 05:19 PM
I'm sure glad I didn't vote on this one. I thought I'd jinx Soda if I favored him. Turns-out, I'm not a jinx after all. Soda just went and lost.

Well.. congrats to El Matador! I didn't think he had it in him... again! :lol: Rafa proved me wrong...again! :help: In my defense, he's just hard to read.

And Soda? Well.. at least he made it to the Wimby quaterfinals.

l_mac
06-30-2010, 05:19 PM
I thought he played better against Mathieu but still getting it done.

No.

malisha
06-30-2010, 05:20 PM
good

wanted to see Nadal Murray semi

thats the only matchup where Murray is a bully

lazybear
06-30-2010, 05:20 PM
Too f'n solid today. If Söder wins the first set 6-0 could have been a different match. I don't know how Murray will react to that forehand... He'll put back a lot more serve than Söder did, that's for sure. Nadal had almost as many unreturnable than Söd, there is simply no way to beat him when he even gets a lot of cheap points.

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-30-2010, 05:20 PM
I thought he played better against Mathieu but still getting it done.

I meant the tourney overall. He is playing excellent serve and return despite few shaky games, some of the returns to Soderling amazing heavy shots were incredible to watch , plus he is mentally tough and restrained.

n8
06-30-2010, 05:21 PM
Nadal's slices were generally very well stuck with good direction too.

Topspin Forehand
06-30-2010, 05:22 PM
No.
Did you watch the Mathieu match? Nadal was serving huge and returning almost everything. I thought Mathieu played a good match.

madmax
06-30-2010, 05:22 PM
SoderKing was injured, Nadull gets lucky again... no way a healthy Robin would play so crappy

Lopez
06-30-2010, 05:23 PM
Good win for Rafa :yeah:

Söderling :sad:

Robin played really well at the beginning, then showed signs of fading, managed to take the first set but then never regained his level and Nadal started to dominate. Ran out of gas and belief at the end.

Hoping for Murray/Nadal semi!

M4RC
06-30-2010, 05:23 PM
#1 won (he's the #2 seed anyway, so who cares? ATP ranking system is a joke). Lucky disgraceful cheater, muggest dirtballer of a mug era. He did not win, his rival lost, bended over and gifted him the match.

SoderKing got owned, AGAIN :shit!:. He was unlucky, though.

SoderKing was injured. SoderKing was tired. SoderKing called for the trainer when the other mug was ready to seve for set. SoderKing did what he had to do "I want the trainer now, I do not want to wait 'til the next changeover". SoderKing broke back and was really close to win the set. Nadull cheated by not losing that set.

The umpire was absolutely right when he stole that point from Nadull. It was funny, didn't you see it?

Toni el Mafioso coached the mug.

Nadull overreacted after his lucky and undeserved victory and forced SoderKing to leave the court alone.

Nadull shot SoderKing's coach in the leg and that's why SoderKing's coach is injured there. He'll need Nadull's juice to recover, no?

PS. Federer was also injured, I mean, that's not what I meant.

I think I made my day.

Shirogane
06-30-2010, 05:24 PM
good

wanted to see Nadal Murray semi

thats the only matchup where Murray is a bully

:lol:

l_mac
06-30-2010, 05:25 PM
Did you watch the Mathieu match? Nadal was serving huge and returning almost everything. I thought Mathieu played a good match.

Mathieu was aboslutely hopeless.

Rafa wasn't serving any bigger on Monday than he was today. I can't speak to you, too much of a tard even for me. That is saying something :o

Langers
06-30-2010, 05:26 PM
I said before the match that people were misjudging Rafa's form and I stand by it now. He's playing really well and it's going to take a huge performance to stop him.
Agreed. He usually struggles a bit in his first few matches anyway, and when you consider he faced two HUGE servers back to back, it's no wonder he struggled.

He looked amazing today, hard to see him losing to Muzza.

Sapeod
06-30-2010, 05:26 PM
Cheater got what he had to get, a total trashing.

Cheater go hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo me :lol:
Cheater won :confused:

NID Nadull would beat a knackered Soderling. Murray/Nadull should be fun, watching Murray outhit and bully Nadull like he usually does at slams (US Open 08 & Aus Open 10 :yeah:)

allpro
06-30-2010, 05:27 PM
standing http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss7/highdudester/congrats.gif

and el conquistador closed the show like the champion he is - with a breadstick......

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3305/3201010574_43f67b91b4.jpg

eat up toadtards and bitter rafahaters! http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/froehlich/h020.gif

Arkulari
06-30-2010, 05:27 PM
Agreed. He usually struggles a bit in his first few matches anyway, and when you consider he faced two HUGE servers back to back, it's no wonder he struggled.

He looked amazing today, hard to see him losing to Muzza.

this

Sunset of Age
06-30-2010, 05:27 PM
Did you watch the Mathieu match? Nadal was serving huge and returning almost everything. I thought Mathieu played a good match.

:lol: - that match had just as much indicative value of Rafa's level of playing, as were the Clement and Melzer matches of Roger's. :o
In other words: zero.

scarecrows
06-30-2010, 05:29 PM
SoderKing was injured, Nadull gets lucky again... no way a healthy Robin would play so crappy

injured or not injured it was his tactics that were wrong

River
06-30-2010, 05:30 PM
injured or not injured it was his tactics that were wrong

+1

brent-o
06-30-2010, 05:36 PM
standing http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss7/highdudester/congrats.gif

el conquistador closed the show like the champion he is - with a breadstick......

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3305/3201010574_43f67b91b4.jpg

eat up toadtards and bitter rafahaters! http://www.cosgan.de/images/midi/froehlich/h020.gif

Damn you! Now I'm hungry!

acionescu
06-30-2010, 05:37 PM
Not done.

You tell him :hug:

i posted it just as rafa served at 40-30. Was nid

Tell that to the poster above :p

Could have been a terrific match, but Soderling clearly wasn't fit. His tactics were correct given that: to come out and blow Nadal off the court in straights, but he couldn't keep it going after 5-0.

:lol:

Yep, if only matches were best of one set :awww:

this is the same poster who posted a final scoreline for the Isner/mahut match when it was in the 30's.

No kidding? :rolls:

So happy :banana: I admit I was not believing in his chances but I'm glad he proved me wrong and he really played well :worship:

allpro
06-30-2010, 05:40 PM
Damn you! Now I'm hungry!

:lol: .... they do look yummy! :lick:

peribsen
06-30-2010, 05:53 PM
Claycourt Tennis won and tennis died!!

Looked so good in the beginning but after the match progressed Soda didn't serve good enough and didn't return as good and made to many UE while Rafa just pushed and pushed with no errors!!

Like it or not, the best grass court player of the two (3 Wimby finals of which 1 win, 1 Queens)won.

If you think Rafa is a pusher, you understand very little about tennis. A pusher just waits for your UE. Rafa unsettles you and makes your UE skyrocket, but, most important, he has a huge sting. Unlike true pushers, he has the tools to hurt you unexpectedly, from all sides and with all sort of shots. That's not a pusher, that's a cobra.

BTW, I think Sod was injured today, so I won't hype Rafa's win as much as your sort did last year.

Start da Game
06-30-2010, 05:58 PM
Do your best haters.. DO YOUR BLOODY BEST

Rafa :worship::worship:

this.......

http://cd7.e2bn.net/e2bn/leas/c99/schools/cd7/website/images/greek-spartan-warriors-5.jpg

andylovesaustin
06-30-2010, 05:59 PM
A very slow start from Rafa saw him behind 1-5 in the first set, but there already were signs of a big change coming about, and it did! Still by far not the best level of play by him, but it wasn't necessary either so who cares. DF'ing to hand back the break for instance... oops. :o Still, who cares when you're winning anyhows.
Congrats, Rafa, can't see anyone stopping you from reaching the final now. :hatoff: :yeah:

After Sod's struggle with Ferrer, this is about how I expected the match to go, but it turned out to be even worse for Sod. He got very much exposed as a serve-only wonder in this match; serve gone -> game over. :shrug:

And eh, I hope something will be done about taking MTOs at obviously wrong moments in the match. :(

There is nothing that will be done about the MTO's.

If a player is insisting for medical attention, then..I would imagine they powers-that-be would err on the side of caution.

I don't know if Soda was giving El Maestro some of this own medicine or not, but why punish ALL the players for the gamesmanship of a few?

And it might just be Soda was having trouble with that bandage.

There's just no way to tell, so... to err on the side of caution is the best policy.

Yeah, Rafa lost his advantage, BUT he may have lost it anyway. Soda's medical time-out may have not factored in at all.

So.. I just think it's much ado about nothing. It's obvious Soda had something wrong with his foot. And Rafa has a history of knee problems, so...

Dyraise
06-30-2010, 06:03 PM
Predictible

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-30-2010, 06:05 PM
SoderKing was injured, Nadull gets lucky again... no way a healthy Robin would play so crappy

He didn't play crappy.

Geo
06-30-2010, 06:07 PM
Soderling :o :retard:


I guess Nadal's knees felt good today :p :spit:

stebs
06-30-2010, 06:11 PM
No-one but Federer has beaten Nadal at Wimbledon since 2005. He will be tough to stop, big favourite for the title now imo. Great performance here, Soderling needed to give a huge performance to win and he didn't do that, Nadal was relentless.

M4RC
06-30-2010, 06:11 PM
Unlucky Robin, understandable you couldnt beat running moonballer, with illegal racquet strings, doped up to the eyeballs

:rolls:

ossie
06-30-2010, 06:12 PM
and thats the way the cookie crumbles, what happened haters i thought this guy was supposed to be rafas kryptonite?

Deivid23
06-30-2010, 06:13 PM
Excellent win for #1 :yeah:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
06-30-2010, 06:14 PM
Robin :sad:You gave me hope when you won the 1st set.

peribsen
06-30-2010, 06:16 PM
Cheater won

Soderling did not call in the trainer, and if he did it was justified.

Nadal can't call in the trainer, or if he does it's sure to be cheating.

Soderling did not lie outright during the match in Rome 08 when he tried to convince the umpire that Nadal's shot was out.. pointing to a mark about two yards away from where the ball had landed. Of course not. Lying outright is not cheating, and even if it is, if it isn´t Nadal doing it, it deserves to be instantly forgotten and forgiven.

Whatever Nadal does, even if it is open to interpretation, is certain to be gamesmanship.

Nadal, the cheater, takes his time between serves focusing on how it affects his rivals. He obviously doesn´t do it thinking only about his own concentration, since he is well known not to have the slightest obsessive trait, as the 3 bottles on a line clearly show.

Nadal is obnoxious because he pump-fists his winners.

Soderling pump-fisting his rival's UE and pointing at him with a menacing look is of course totally different. It is simply part of his lovely personality.

Glory... will you ever grow up?

Murray vs Nadal will be a great match. It could go either way. But that is because Murray, despite all the flack he draws on MTF, is actually an exellent player who may someday win a couple of majors without it being a fluke. Unlike Soderling, who is a very good player who deserves respect, but who's only chance of winning a slam will come if other players are injured/out-of-form/on off-days/lucky draws.

Oh, and I forgot. Soderling was injured today, so we should do like you did last year and not over-hype Rafa's win.

Besides, if Soderling is injured, Rafa is lucky, while if Rafa is injured, it's only his fault for overplaying, right?

Glory... open your eyes kid.

Start da Game
06-30-2010, 06:22 PM
does it surprise anyone that "fedal" sisters arkulari and bonnie the cat never say a word to rafa haters who keep hating rafa like if that is what they are paid for in life.......

guga2120
06-30-2010, 06:28 PM
Soderking goes down. It's too bad.

Rafa, better serve huge to have a chance against Murray's return.

Rafaspin
06-30-2010, 06:30 PM
Soderling did not call in the trainer, and if he did it was justified.

Nadal can't call in the trainer, or if he does it's sure to be cheating.

Soderling did not lie outright during the match in Rome 08 when he tried to convince the umpire that Nadal's shot was out.. pointing to a mark about two yards away from where the ball had landed. Of course not. Lying outright is not cheating, and even if it is, if it isn´t Nadal doing it, it deserves to be instantly forgotten and forgiven.

Whatever Nadal does, even if it is open to interpretation, is certain to be gamesmanship.

Nadal, the cheater, takes his time between serves focusing on how it affects his rivals. He obviously doesn´t do it thinking only about his own concentration, since he is well known not to have the slightest obsessive trait, as the 3 bottles on a line clearly show.

Nadal is obnoxious because he pump-fists his winners.

Soderling pump-fisting his rival's UE and pointing at him with a menacing look is of course totally different. It is simply part of his lovely personality.

Glory... will you ever grow up?

Murray vs Nadal will be a great match. It could go either way. But that is because Murray, despite all the flack he draws on MTF, is actually an exellent player who may someday win a couple of majors without it being a fluke. Unlike Soderling, who is a very good player who deserves respect, but who's only chance of winning a slam will come if other players are injured/out-of-form/on off-days/lucky draws.

Oh, and I forgot. Soderling was injured today, so we should do like you did last year and not over-hype Rafa's win.

Besides, if Soderling is injured, Rafa is lucky, while if Rafa is injured, it's only his fault for overplaying, right?

Glory... open your eyes kid.

:yeah:


Glory = shit.

crude oil
06-30-2010, 06:35 PM
Good win for the cheating diva.

Topspin Forehand
06-30-2010, 06:36 PM
Soderking goes down. It's too bad.

Rafa, better serve huge to have a chance against Murray's return.
Yeah I don't like the matchup for Rafa against Murray on a fast surface.

A_Skywalker
06-30-2010, 06:37 PM
vamoooos, I left when Soderling was set up and break point, someone was posting in the live thread that Rafa is pathethic, I really like how he turned the match and shut up the haters. Vamos!

solowyn
06-30-2010, 06:46 PM
Well done today, Rafa :D Robin, you do know how to break hearts.

peribsen
06-30-2010, 06:48 PM
does it surprise anyone that "fedal" sisters arkulari and bonnie the cat never say a word to rafa haters who keep hating rafa like if that is what they are paid for in life.......

NO.

It just means they are way above the tardish fray and actually centre on tennis. They've got class.

Foxy
06-30-2010, 06:53 PM
Great win for the defending champ. Showed who is the real cheater out there. Go home, cheatie, you won't be missed.

M4RC
06-30-2010, 06:59 PM
Yeah I don't like the matchup for Rafa against Murray on a fast surface.

3mHdAPMJgsI

tae04
06-30-2010, 07:06 PM
So happy for Rafa. He might have a chance to take this title. I just dont see him beating Murray but I said the same about him against Soderling.

NADALbULLS
06-30-2010, 07:12 PM
Murray isn't mentally tough enough to play his best in a Wimbledon semi-final. The crowd scares the crap out of him, like last year. And this time he has to contend with Nadal's relentless pressure. Murray made the US Open Final in 2008, and beat Nadal in the USO semi, so don't downplay how different this matchup is on grass as Nadal wiped the floor with him in straight sets at Wimbledon that year. I was praying for Murray to beat Tsonga, because when Tsonga is on fire he could have posed a major obstacle for Nadal. Not so Murray, not on grass.

malisha
06-30-2010, 07:23 PM
Murray isn't mentally tough enough to play his best in a Wimbledon semi-final. The crowd scares the crap out of him, like last year. And this time he has to contend with Nadal's relentless pressure. Murray made the US Open Final in 2008, and beat Nadal in the USO semi, so don't downplay how different this matchup is on grass as Nadal wiped the floor with him in straight sets at Wimbledon that year. I was praying for Murray to beat Tsonga, because when Tsonga is on fire he could have posed a major obstacle for Nadal. Not so Murray, not on grass.

you are very wrong mate..Nadal beat Murray after Wimbeldon in Toronto that year...on hardcourt before he lost at USO

this is different Murray now

Nadal wolud have loved Tsonga...dont think he likes to meet Murray on any slam but RG

ad-out
06-30-2010, 07:28 PM
Really disappointed for Soderling but congrats to Rafa and his fans. SHould be a great match against Murray.

Tom_Bombadil
06-30-2010, 07:29 PM
I think in his last two matches against Murray he wasn't in his best form. IMO, Nadal in his best form can defeat anyone, and he should be the favorite. His ranking and results this year say so.

BTW I'm not saying he's gonna win, but I think he has very good chances.

Everko
06-30-2010, 07:34 PM
I am very glad Nadal was able to overcome the 1st set. He oversame the absurd umpire and battled to a win.

NADALbULLS
06-30-2010, 07:47 PM
you are very wrong mate..Nadal beat Murray after Wimbeldon in Toronto that year...on hardcourt before he lost at USO

this is different Murray now

Nadal wolud have loved Tsonga...dont think he likes to meet Murray on any slam but RG

Murray is the same as 2008. He got clobbered by Federer in the 2008 US Open Final, and he got clobbered by Federer in the 2010 Australian Open Final. He plays defensive tennis when he's under mental duress, and at Wimbledon he is under constant mental duress, especially in a semi. Plus he's just not a very good grasscourt player, certainly not in the class of Nadal. Nadal in 3, but I'm hoping for a classic 5-setter (as I was today).

malisha
06-30-2010, 07:49 PM
I think in his last two matches against Murray he wasn't in his best form. IMO, Nadal in his best form can defeat anyone, and he should be the favorite. His ranking and results this year say so.

BTW I'm not saying he's gonna win, but I think he has very good chances.

ofcourse he have a very good chance

hes the #1
Murray is the same as 2008. He got clobbered by Federer in the 2008 US Open Final, and in 2010 he got clobbered by Federer in the 2010 Australian Open Final. He play defensive tennis when he's under duress, and at Wimbledon he is under constant duress. Plus he's just not a very good grasscourt player, certainly not in the class of Nadal. Nadal in 3, but I'm hoping for a classic 5-setter.

Murray never plays defensive against Rafa

you will be able to see it soon

NADALbULLS
06-30-2010, 07:51 PM
ofcourse he have a very good chance

hes the #1


Murray never plays defensive against Rafa

you will be able to see it soon

Nadal murdered him in 3 easy sets in 2008 Wimbledon semis (that was the same year Murray creamed Nadal at the US Open semis). Murray isn't a top grasscourt player, nowhere near the Federer-Nadal level.

Arkulari
06-30-2010, 07:52 PM
Somehow Murray always finds his best attacking form facing Rafa in Slams, but I don't think he'll win this time

Clay Death
06-30-2010, 08:01 PM
I am very glad Nadal was able to overcome the 1st set. He oversame the absurd umpire and battled to a win.

i called this match yesterday everko but only nobody would listen:

i said very specifically that clay warrior will take it in 3 or 4 sets. it should never have been this close anyway. it was basically average performance from nadal. he could have returned better and he could have made even fewer unforced errors than he did.

the grass was dry and playing very fast. also soderling was going for broke as i said he would have to yesterday. that can make it difficult to acquire much rhythm.

it is still quite encouraging. nadal played within himself but he also played somewhat on the average side. he was not anywhere near his best. so he ran over soderling playing pretty much average tennis.

it was made clear to all the clueless jokers here who kept insisting that "the match was on soderling`s racquet".

i tried to explain it to them but they would not listen.

essentially nadal is as superior to soderling as the living are to the dead. soderling is just not in the same class of players as somebody like the clay warrior.

this would have been total devastation if the clay warrior was a little les off and he had returned a little better.

bottom line: one just had to play his game while the other (soderling) had to go for broke and play high risk tennis.

Aenea
06-30-2010, 08:31 PM
I am very happy Rafa won over such a dangerous opponent like Soderling. Whether or nor Soderling was injured doesn't matter in the end. As many people have said many times on this site if you are fit enough to take on court you are fit enough to play. End of story and no more double standards.
Good luck to Rafa for the SF.

ChinoRios4Ever
06-30-2010, 08:32 PM
Rafa recovering his peak form of 2008, nice. Take the tiltle again you legend :yeah:

DuMa
06-30-2010, 08:35 PM
anyone found it really hilarious when robin challenged the point prior to MP. a point that he won? it was like what JMac said. He was delirious. I just thought it was hilarious he tried to challenge his own point won.

Commander Data
06-30-2010, 08:41 PM
Nadal has definitely sorted out the Sod-problem. He is in impressive form. I think he will go all the way now.

Topspin Forehand
06-30-2010, 08:42 PM
3mHdAPMJgsI
That was after a 4 hour match with Gasquet. Murray is a better player now as well. Proven by how well he did against Nadal on a slow hardcourt at the Australian Open.

Commander Data
06-30-2010, 08:43 PM
i called this match yesterday everko but only nobody would listen:

i said very specifically that clay warrior will take it in 3 or 4 sets. it should never have been this close anyway. it was basically average performance from nadal. he could have returned better and he could have made even fewer unforced errors than he did.

the grass was dry and playing very fast. also soderling was going for broke as i said he would have to yesterday. that can make it difficult to acquire much rhythm.

it is still quite encouraging. nadal played within himself but he also played somewhat on the average side. he was not anywhere near his best. so he ran over soderling playing pretty much average tennis.

it was made clear to all the clueless jokers here who kept insisting that "the match was on soderling`s racquet".

i tried to explain it to them but they would not listen.

essentially nadal is as superior to soderling as the living are to the dead. soderling is just not in the same class of players as somebody like the clay warrior.

this would have been total devastation if the clay warrior was a little les off and he had returned a little better.

bottom line: one just had to play his game while the other (soderling) had to go for broke and play high risk tennis.

Thats probably about it. I have to admit. Söderling is to Nadal what Birdy is the Federer. Dangerous on a bad day.

ossie
06-30-2010, 08:45 PM
That was after a 4 hour match with Gasquet. Murray is a better player now as well. Proven by how well he did against Nadal on a slow hardcourt at the Australian Open.nadal has improved much more than murray since then

tennisfan856
06-30-2010, 08:49 PM
Q. How was your left foot? You received some treatment at the end of the third set. Was that hampering you a bit?

ROBIN SODERLING: Well, I have a small blister on my toe. I won't die. I think I'll be fine.

Q. So it's no reason...

ROBIN SODERLING: Well, again, I had a small blister on my toe, so nothing serious.

Q. Did you think it would be more politic to wait until the end of the set, given he was about to serve?

ROBIN SODERLING: Well, it was hurting me quite a lot. I think it's better to have it fixed than play with it. Don't you think?

tennisfan856
06-30-2010, 08:52 PM
Q. Serving for the set, he took a medical timeout. Were you surprised by his decision to do that at that moment? What's your feelings?

RAFAEL NADAL: No, the rule says you can do it, so...

Q. Would you say it's appropriate to do it at that time?

RAFAEL NADAL: It's proper? What is this? Is in his hands; he can do it. The rules are the rules. And if he can do it and he didn't have nothing wrong...

For me, the wrong thing is we wait for the physio five minutes. So that's the bad thing. Because in the end, if you stop three minutes, it's okay. But if you stop 10 minutes, it's not okay. That's was the problem for me.

You know, that's all.

Erica86
06-30-2010, 08:57 PM
Claycourt Tennis won and tennis died!!

If Rafa hadn't caught 2 outsidelines in the 3rd set breaker maybe things could have been different. Soda ran out of gas in the 4th set completely.

Looked so good in the beginning but after the match progressed Soda didn't serve good enough and didn't return as good and made to many UE while Rafa just pushed and pushed with no errors!!

If they hadn't stopped for 8 minutes before Nadal served for the set, Nadal would have won 6-4.
If my grandmother had balls, she would be my grandfather.

Clay Death
06-30-2010, 08:58 PM
Thats probably about it. I have to admit. Söderling is to Nadal what Birdy is the Federer. Dangerous on a bad day.

what up commander?

i think nadal has a few more cards left. there was really no need to show them all today.

he was a little off so he made a very careful effort to play within himself.

he will get a chance to find the groove and the rhythm off the ground against murray who doesnt play a go-for-broke type of tennis.

ORGASMATRON
06-30-2010, 09:05 PM
nadal is winning this now. no out there who can stop him.

Filo V.
06-30-2010, 09:11 PM
This should probably end the debate on who is the better player between the two, if there was any debate. Bottom line, Rafa started horribly, Robin was hot, he got complacent, and from the end of the first set on, Rafa was in total control. Rafa has the mental edge, he's the more complete player, and he is the fitter player. There was no doubt in this result. Robin will never beat Rafa on a consistent basis because he isn't a consistent enough player.

Guy Haines
06-30-2010, 09:17 PM
Soderking worshipers:

http://www.thepostcard.com/gofetch/rack/rc127.jpg

Guy Haines
06-30-2010, 09:18 PM
What was the score of the final game?

***

Yay, pig jumps around! Soderking injured, Ferrer did his job, Toni will give him his dog biscuit.

Paranoid much?

And people say Nadal and his fans make up excuses.

I realize this must be a tough day for you.

Guy Haines
06-30-2010, 09:21 PM
Soderling was injured, match isn't legit.

Seems more applicable to a different match that was played today, apparently.

Commander Data
06-30-2010, 09:31 PM
what up commander?

i think nadal has a few more cards left. there was really no need to show them all today.

he was a little off so he made a very careful effort to play within himself.

he will get a chance to find the groove and the rhythm off the ground against murray who doesnt play a go-for-broke type of tennis.

Hey CD

I'm gutted. i believed Fed could take the Sampras record this year, now everything looks in shambles. Not a good sign for Fed to lose to Hewitt and Berdych...

Positive about Nadal. The clay Warrior is underrated on grass where is not far behind clay, I believe.
he will not stop now when he smelles the Wimbledon title. Murray will try but fail. It might take 5 sets but Nadal will not lose.

Ariel
06-30-2010, 09:51 PM
Soderling's fitness is suspect. Ferrer may have taken him to 5 sets on Monday but he should have had enough in the tank to go five today as a top ranked player. He looked winded in the fourth and just gave up. It's difficult to know how much of it was emotional burnout but I think Nadal got to Sod mentally so much so that the latter challenged a point that he won. Nadal's greatest strength continues to be his mental fortitude and his ability to focus on every point like it's his last. Well done today.

moon language
06-30-2010, 09:54 PM
Watching a recording of this match now. Nadal was hitting his forehand down the line great in this match. Without that shot working he's toast against Soderling.

Filo V.
06-30-2010, 10:03 PM
Soderling's fitness is suspect. Ferrer may have taken him to 5 sets on Monday but he should have had enough in the tank to go five today as a top ranked player. He looked winded in the fourth and just gave up. It's difficult to know how much of it was emotional burnout but I think Nadal got to Sod mentally so much so that the latter challenged a point that he won. Nadal's greatest strength continues to be his mental fortitude and his ability to focus on every point like it's his last. Well done today.

Yeah, his fitness gave out as a product of his mentality giving out due to Rafa applying so much pressure to him. Same thing as the RG final, it's just too much for Robin to handle when Rafa is playing well. It overwhelms him. He does have a fitness problem also but his main issue is and will always be mental.

A_Skywalker
06-30-2010, 10:42 PM
Soderling's fitness is suspect. Ferrer may have taken him to 5 sets on Monday but he should have had enough in the tank to go five today as a top ranked player. He looked winded in the fourth and just gave up. It's difficult to know how much of it was emotional burnout but I think Nadal got to Sod mentally so much so that the latter challenged a point that he won. Nadal's greatest strength continues to be his mental fortitude and his ability to focus on every point like it's his last. Well done today.

did he really challenge a ball where he won :D ?
video ?

Nidhogg
06-30-2010, 10:43 PM
Nadal did well to recover from his slow start and get into the match after avoiding being blanked. He also seemed to use Maria's ludicrous overrule as a big catalyst. That's how one can roll.

As for Robin, he didn't seem to be quite up for this match physically. Aside from that he made several tactical mistakes, but putting a gameplan to use can often be difficult even when you're well aware of what you're supposed to do due to the level you're forced to execute on. All in all he is making steady progress anyway. Top five, whaddaya know. :sport:

Going straight from clay to grass is tough for anyone, and to on top of that then go right back to clay, well, you get the picture. I hope he and his camp seriously consider skipping Båstad if they deem it necessary, but I doubt things will work out that way. This sort of high stress hurt him in the long run last year when he started to have problems with his arm.

We'll see what happens...

Ariel
06-30-2010, 10:48 PM
Yeah, it was in the last game I believe. And Johnny Mac said Sod was so mezmerized that he just challenged his shot that was called good. And Robin looked all sheepish but then MAC said it was a bad day for the umpire. Maybe someone else can clarify. And no, unfortunately I don't have the video. Another poster on this thread also noticed Robin's mistake.

Edited to add: This was in a response to question in A Skywalker's post.

ORGASMATRON
06-30-2010, 10:50 PM
sods gamesmanship worked to break nadal back in the 3rd when serving for the set. it almost helped him to turn the match around but screwed up in the TB. this is the kind of thing that makes this rivalry so interesting. but its obvious nadal is just the better player.

star
06-30-2010, 10:53 PM
Nadal did well to recover from his slow start and get into the match after avoiding being blanked. He also seemed to use Maria's ludicrous overrule as a big catalyst. That's how one can roll.

As for Robin, he didn't seem to be quite up for this match physically. Aside from that he made several tactical mistakes, but putting a gameplan to use can often be difficult even when you're well aware of what you're supposed to do due to the level you're forced to execute on. All in all he is making steady progress anyway. Top five, whaddaya know. :sport:

Going straight from clay to grass is tough for anyone, and to on top of that then go right back to clay, well, you get the picture. I hope he and his camp seriously consider skipping Båstad if they deem it necessary, but I doubt things will work out that way. This sort of high stress hurt him in the long run last year when he started to have problems with his arm.

We'll see what happens...

I think Bastaad is ok. But nothing after that. Gotta give something back to the Swedes, and it's such a great place. I'd love to go sometime. Deadly expensive though -- Sweden.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FLBPzsmORV8/Sj6IIOM7PjI/AAAAAAAAAhc/J7yir2FaCAQ/s400/R0011431.jpg

kindling
06-30-2010, 10:55 PM
Ouch and ouch, someone please take Nadal down…. I used to really like the guy, but something about him has changed and I get real irritated by him.

leng jai
06-30-2010, 11:21 PM
What a fighter this Soderling

allpro
06-30-2010, 11:22 PM
Yeah, it was in the last game I believe. And Johnny Mac said Sod was so mezmerized that he just challenged his shot that was called good. And Robin looked all sheepish but then MAC said it was a bad day for the umpire. Maybe someone else can clarify. And no, unfortunately I don't have the video. Another poster on this thread also noticed Robin's mistake.

Edited to add: This was in a response to question in A Skywalker's post.

soderling was poking fun at pascal maria for some previous poor calls.

rough day at the office for pascal.

raven gypsy
06-30-2010, 11:50 PM
Nadal's greatest strength continues to be his mental fortitude and his ability to focus on every point like it's his last. Well done today.

Agreed.

Obviously, Soderling has earned respect and ranking with his performances over the past year.
Good for Rafa. :)

Modetopia
07-01-2010, 12:54 AM
Nadal first win against Top 10 outside of clay since...:eek:

bad gambler
07-01-2010, 02:00 AM
Another chapter in this epic tennis rivalry

Rafa = Fed Killa
07-01-2010, 03:24 AM
Sodaclown only lives on the fluky win against Nadal.

Healthy Nadal can not be beaten by a brainless being like Soderling.

Manequin75
07-01-2010, 03:56 AM
That was after a 4 hour match with Gasquet. Murray is a better player now as well. Proven by how well he did against Nadal on a slow hardcourt at the Australian Open.


topspin - you had been harping about how rafa wont beat sod since the draw came out. Now harp away the same about Rafa not beating Murray. Doesn't matter. The key match was Sod and you know Rafa overcame a HUGE opponent today.

If Rafa was given a choice for the semifinals to play Murray or Sodeling again? what do you think he he would pick? Yes...I thought so

Manequin75
07-01-2010, 03:58 AM
That was after a 4 hour match with Gasquet. Murray is a better player now as well. Proven by how well he did against Nadal on a slow hardcourt at the Australian Open.

rafa didnt play bad that match. He was up a break in both sets. His confidence was low, hadnt won a tournament in like 8 months. Mentally he wasnt there. Watch Rafa put up a clinic and play his BEST match of the tournament on Friday.

In Rafa We Trust :)

Manequin75
07-01-2010, 04:02 AM
Hey CD

I'm gutted. i believed Fed could take the Sampras record this year, now everything looks in shambles. Not a good sign for Fed to lose to Hewitt and Berdych...

Positive about Nadal. The clay Warrior is underrated on grass where is not far behind clay, I believe.
he will not stop now when he smelles the Wimbledon title. Murray will try but fail. It might take 5 sets but Nadal will not lose.

fed aint done. He will be back. There is one final stretch left in Fed. This time next year you will see that.

It has been too long since fed been in shambles, dropped out of top 2, lost in successive GS Qfs etc. Watch the champion respond in the US open.

Topspin Forehand
07-01-2010, 04:05 AM
topspin - you had been harping about how rafa wont beat sod since the draw came out. Now harp away the same about Rafa not beating Murray. Doesn't matter. The key match was Sod and you know Rafa overcame a HUGE opponent today.

If Rafa was given a choice for the semifinals to play Murray or Sodeling again? what do you think he he would pick? Yes...I thought so
I think Nadal would rather play Soderling now. He proved now that is not the toughest matchup out there. Murray's backhand>>>Soderling's backhand. Murray's return of serve>>>Soderling's return of serve. Nadal has lost to Murray the last 2 times they met in a slam. Only winning one set.

Manequin75
07-01-2010, 04:06 AM
Yeah, it was in the last game I believe. And Johnny Mac said Sod was so mezmerized that he just challenged his shot that was called good. And Robin looked all sheepish but then MAC said it was a bad day for the umpire. Maybe someone else can clarify. And no, unfortunately I don't have the video. Another poster on this thread also noticed Robin's mistake.

Edited to add: This was in a response to question in A Skywalker's post.

no he didnt challenge his own good shot. He won the point but thought Rafa's serve was long. So after he won the point he told the umpire that his serve was long and how could the umpire have missed it. Weel he was losing down two match points and down 5-1 in the set, he was just releasing his frustrations. Nothing else.

Manequin75
07-01-2010, 04:13 AM
I think Nadal would rather play Soderling now. He proved now that is not the toughest matchup out there. Murray's backhand>>>Soderling's backhand. Murray's return of serve>>>Soderling's return of serve. Nadal has lost to Murray the last 2 times they met in a slam. Only winning one set.


oh boy. Take it from me Rafa doenst want to play soderling. Rafa's has nightmares returning huge serves. He had problems with Haase and Phillip. Sod fortunately wasnt serving great today. These guys on grass put Rafa off his rhthym. Murray's serve is manageable for Rafa. Murray has never beaten Rafa on a soft surface like grass/clay. A wimbledon semifinal 5 setter is not where Murray breaks that trend. Rafa is just too tough now. You didnt give Rafa any chance after his draw cam eout. But You make sure you watch who lifts that trophy on the 4th of July. The trophy will be bitten that day :)

Azurebi
07-01-2010, 04:20 AM
Rafa :hatoff: amazing clutch plays as usual :)

Topspin Forehand
07-01-2010, 04:37 AM
oh boy. Take it from me Rafa doenst want to play soderling. Rafa's has nightmares returning huge serves. He had problems with Haase and Phillip. Sod fortunately wasnt serving great today. These guys on grass put Rafa off his rhthym. Murray's serve is manageable for Rafa. Murray has never beaten Rafa on a soft surface like grass/clay. A wimbledon semifinal 5 setter is not where Murray breaks that trend. Rafa is just too tough now. You didnt give Rafa any chance after his draw cam eout. But You make sure you watch who lifts that trophy on the 4th of July. The trophy will be bitten that day :)
Hope you are right. But I could easily see Murray or Djokovic take the title. Murray's got a great first serve. Nadal had all sorts of problems with it in his last 2 slam matches. Murray is a more complete player than Soderling. Soderling is more suited to slower surfaces while Murray likes the pace. It's a completely different matchup. Hope Nadal is ready to adjust.

M4RC
07-01-2010, 05:02 AM
Nadal first win against Top 10 outside of clay since...:eek:

:bs:

Since... the last tournament he played outside clay before Wimbledon, maybe? :rolleyes: (not counting Queens). He defeated Tsonga in the US Spring season.

@Sweet Cleopatra
07-01-2010, 05:15 AM
Watching a recording of this match now. Nadal was hitting his forehand down the line great in this match. Without that shot working he's toast against Soderling.

:lol:

Do you watch him regularly? without that shot he wouldn't be able to win almost all matches he has played.

delpiero7
07-01-2010, 05:23 AM
Soda tanked the last set, but I'm glad he pissed off the Nadulltards getting a taste of gamesmanship before leaving. Hope Murray puts Nadull in his place on Friday and NAdull withdraws again with a mysterious injury like at AO :o

Wow, bitter much? Of course Soderling tanked the last set, as there's no other way Nadal would be able to score a victory over him. And FWIW, I doubt the 'Nadulltards' are pissed off, because he steamrollered Soderling in the last set.

Federer out. Soderling out. I think it's time for you to get the Nadal voodoo doll out of the cupboard because it's obvious that plain old hating just isn't working.

Soderking worshipers:

http://www.thepostcard.com/gofetch/rack/rc127.jpg

:worship:

Now they have one asterisked victory over each other. ;)

Knotty Fort
07-01-2010, 07:25 AM
After that awful call by Di Pasquale, Nadal managed to get fired up. Weirdly enough, Soderling became SO tentative, and stopped going after his shots. Though balls that he spun back to the middle of the court were just ridicuolous, you could see he didn't dare to just hit the ball because he was getting tight. The fierce hitting that brought him victories over Nadal was just MIA in this match, bar the 1st set.

Veronique
07-01-2010, 07:39 AM
So Murray is the next hero to take down Rafa. While that may happen, Rafa is the favorite in that matchup on this surface. Wishful thinking and reality are 2 different things. I can't wait to hear the excuses on Friday.

HarryMan
07-01-2010, 10:25 AM
So Murray is the next hero to take down Rafa. While that may happen, Rafa is the favorite in that matchup on this surface. Wishful thinking and reality are 2 different things. I can't wait to hear the excuses on Friday.

No one can deny Nadal is the favorite to win on this surface against anyone (including Federer despite Federer's past records). I don't think you need to take haters seriously, I mean all players have them, don't get upset over their comments. ;)

Murray will have to be extremely aggressive tomorrow but Nadal's forehand just explode on grass. Murray will have to play really well to beat him.

Sophocles
07-01-2010, 12:12 PM
Soderling was weirdly passive after the 1st set. That was never going to cut it. How annoying.

Manequin75
07-01-2010, 02:18 PM
No one can deny Nadal is the favorite to win on this surface against anyone (including Federer despite Federer's past records). I don't think you need to take haters seriously, I mean all players have them, don't get upset over their comments. ;)

Murray will have to be extremely aggressive tomorrow but Nadal's forehand just explode on grass. Murray will have to play really well to beat him.

while I agree with most of what you said, I disagree about rafa being favorite to beat Roger on grass. Roger is the favorite. His game is built for grass. Sure Nadal will have a big shot but I expect Roger to take it. Just bad luck Roger was playing with those niggles in his back and leg. But its ok. Rafa will defend for Fedal this time around. And roger reclaims the US open. Its important the rest of the pack doesn't taste blood or else hell will break lose :) If berdych or murray can win then even I can - mentality will set in ;)

Start da Game
07-01-2010, 04:27 PM
Sodaclown only lives on the fluky win against Nadal.

Healthy Nadal can not be beaten by a brainless being like Soderling.

nadal gave meaning and momentum to his tennis career by not retiring mid way in the match last year........

ShotmaKer
07-01-2010, 04:34 PM
After that awful call by Di Pasquale, Nadal managed to get fired up. Weirdly enough, Soderling became SO tentative, and stopped going after his shots. Though balls that he spun back to the middle of the court were just ridicuolous, you could see he didn't dare to just hit the ball because he was getting tight. The fierce hitting that brought him victories over Nadal was just MIA in this match, bar the 1st set.

Arnaud Di Pasquale is a former French player. Pascal Maria was the umpire.

Jomp1
07-01-2010, 08:51 PM
No way Robin was 100%, like Rafa-fans would've said if he had lost.

Something happend to Robin vs Ferrer, but Ferrer choked and Rafa doesn't lose to such poor tennis. Robin not going for winners is like Rafa not topspinning his forehands. Almost stumbled into a 2-1 set lead after his little tactical timeout but all in all didn't even give the match a worthy try.

Topspin Forehand
07-01-2010, 10:12 PM
No way Robin was 100%, like Rafa-fans would've said if he had lost.

Something happend to Robin vs Ferrer, but Ferrer choked and Rafa doesn't lose to such poor tennis. Robin not going for winners is like Rafa not topspinning his forehands. Almost stumbled into a 2-1 set lead after his little tactical timeout but all in all didn't even give the match a worthy try.
It's called fatigue. It is a problem for Soderling. We saw it at RG this year and last year as well. He can't handle 5 set matches.

ToniTennis
07-02-2010, 07:52 AM
Soderling did not call in the trainer, and if he did it was justified.

Nadal can't call in the trainer, or if he does it's sure to be cheating.

Soderling did not lie outright during the match in Rome 08 when he tried to convince the umpire that Nadal's shot was out.. pointing to a mark about two yards away from where the ball had landed. Of course not. Lying outright is not cheating, and even if it is, if it isn´t Nadal doing it, it deserves to be instantly forgotten and forgiven.

Whatever Nadal does, even if it is open to interpretation, is certain to be gamesmanship.

Nadal, the cheater, takes his time between serves focusing on how it affects his rivals. He obviously doesn´t do it thinking only about his own concentration, since he is well known not to have the slightest obsessive trait, as the 3 bottles on a line clearly show.

Nadal is obnoxious because he pump-fists his winners.

Soderling pump-fisting his rival's UE and pointing at him with a menacing look is of course totally different. It is simply part of his lovely personality.

Glory... will you ever grow up?

Murray vs Nadal will be a great match. It could go either way. But that is because Murray, despite all the flack he draws on MTF, is actually an exellent player who may someday win a couple of majors without it being a fluke. Unlike Soderling, who is a very good player who deserves respect, but who's only chance of winning a slam will come if other players are injured/out-of-form/on off-days/lucky draws.

Oh, and I forgot. Soderling was injured today, so we should do like you did last year and not over-hype Rafa's win.

Besides, if Soderling is injured, Rafa is lucky, while if Rafa is injured, it's only his fault for overplaying, right?

Glory... open your eyes kid.

This :yeah:

But seriously, don't put too much effort trying to get some sense into these guys' heads. With some of them is like talking to a brick wall. You'll end up frustrated.

ToniTennis
07-02-2010, 08:01 AM
does it surprise anyone that "fedal" sisters arkulari and bonnie the cat never say a word to rafa haters who keep hating rafa like if that is what they are paid for in life.......

Everybody has his/her own way of being a fan. You know what they say, If you don't have something good to say about somebody, then don't say anything at all, and I personally welcome a post that once in a while is not full of the typical bashing.

Sillyrabbit
07-02-2010, 12:50 PM
Soderling did not call in the trainer, and if he did it was justified.

Nadal can't call in the trainer, or if he does it's sure to be cheating.

Soderling did not lie outright during the match in Rome 08 when he tried to convince the umpire that Nadal's shot was out.. pointing to a mark about two yards away from where the ball had landed. Of course not. Lying outright is not cheating, and even if it is, if it isn´t Nadal doing it, it deserves to be instantly forgotten and forgiven.

Whatever Nadal does, even if it is open to interpretation, is certain to be gamesmanship.

Nadal, the cheater, takes his time between serves focusing on how it affects his rivals. He obviously doesn´t do it thinking only about his own concentration, since he is well known not to have the slightest obsessive trait, as the 3 bottles on a line clearly show.

Nadal is obnoxious because he pump-fists his winners.

Soderling pump-fisting his rival's UE and pointing at him with a menacing look is of course totally different. It is simply part of his lovely personality.

Glory... will you ever grow up?

Murray vs Nadal will be a great match. It could go either way. But that is because Murray, despite all the flack he draws on MTF, is actually an exellent player who may someday win a couple of majors without it being a fluke. Unlike Soderling, who is a very good player who deserves respect, but who's only chance of winning a slam will come if other players are injured/out-of-form/on off-days/lucky draws.

Oh, and I forgot. Soderling was injured today, so we should do like you did last year and not over-hype Rafa's win.

Besides, if Soderling is injured, Rafa is lucky, while if Rafa is injured, it's only his fault for overplaying, right?

Glory... open your eyes kid.

What a waste of post over someone as immature and bereft of logic as "Glory" :lol:, no point wasting so much lines of reasoning on him. He'll always be an immature child slagging off players he doesn't like.

*Jean*
07-02-2010, 04:48 PM
Robin :hug:

Filo V.
07-02-2010, 06:07 PM
We can talk about the injury timeouts. The fact of the matter is, Nadal has PROVEN who is the better player between he and Soderling. All of these anti-Nadal chants from mostly bandwagon fans should now be ended.

Mjau!
07-03-2010, 12:26 AM
Robin will get his revenge in one of the upcoming hard court tournaments! I hope he pulls out of Båstad now to get some well-deserved rest.

l_mac
07-03-2010, 01:23 AM
Robin :hug:
He's had a great run over the last couple of months anyway. Who really expected him to come out of RG & Wimbledon with MORE points than before and CLIMB the rankings? :worship: Robin has now solidified his position as a top player. :yeah:


Not me, that's for sure. I'm extremely impressed that he's defended, even added, his points from last year. Like you said he is firmly in the Top 8 now. And he doesn't have much to defend up to the US Open so things look very, very good for him.