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HKz
06-26-2010, 06:59 PM
Will certainly be an intriguing match-up. Would of been a straight forward win for Nadal vs. PHM's mental game, but after seeing Nadal's last two matches, it will be certainly a match to look forward to.

H2H: 9-0 (for Nadal)
Sets: 19/22 sets won by Nadal

If Petzschner had a consistent two-handed topspin backhand, instead of using that stupid slice at the wrong time, the match could have been different. So seeing that PHM hits pretty well off both wings, it will be very interesting.

Certinfy
06-26-2010, 07:00 PM
I actually think PHM stands a realistic chance.

PHM in 5.

Fedicilous
06-26-2010, 07:02 PM
Nadal in 4 sets. Mathieu has past his best, and surely Cheater will have no injury and run like a newborn.

ShotmaKer
06-26-2010, 07:03 PM
PHM is on a great streak since he did beat his "soulwitch man" in the terms of a very well known poster on these boards. I still think Rafa has the edge though.

Priam
06-26-2010, 07:03 PM
Nadal in 4. Their matches are usually tight so it should be interesting.

Shirogane
06-26-2010, 07:07 PM
I hope PHM plays a great match and takes Rafa out. Not healthy to keep playing with all these injuries.

thalle
06-26-2010, 08:08 PM
I said Rafa in three, but it might be four

straitup
06-26-2010, 08:10 PM
Probably Rafa with 4, with PHM choking away a set or two...

The Magician
06-26-2010, 08:12 PM
PHM makes Petz look like John Isner in terms of mental toughness. What's most likely to happen is PHM will be up 6-3 6-4 1-1 and Nadal will take another "injury" timeout and that'll be the end. Another easy 5 sets win for Nadal afterwards.

Roamed
06-26-2010, 08:12 PM
Rafa in 3, not without some shaky moments.

careergrandslam
06-26-2010, 08:14 PM
everytime ppl try to put nadal down, thats when he usually plays well.
he is used to playing under pressure and overcoming adversity

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 08:16 PM
nadal. mathieu doesnt have the mental fortitude to bother the clay GOAT.

extremaduratenis
06-26-2010, 08:16 PM
Rafa in 4, maybe 3.

Bilbo
06-26-2010, 08:17 PM
R. Nadal in 3

Manequin75
06-26-2010, 08:17 PM
Will certainly be an intriguing match-up. Would of been a straight forward win for Nadal vs. PHM's mental game, but after seeing Nadal's last two matches, it will be certainly a match to look forward to.

H2H: 9-0 (for Nadal)
Sets: 19/22 sets won by Nadal

If Petzschner had a consistent two-handed topspin backhand, instead of using that stupid slice at the wrong time, the match could have been different. So seeing that PHM hits pretty well off both wings, it will be very interesting.


PHM serve aint as big as Phillips..is it? I think Rafa's issue today was just the opponent's serve.

Manequin75
06-26-2010, 08:19 PM
I actually think PHM stands a realistic chance.

PHM in 5.

have you ever voted for a rafa win in this lifetime? LOL

btw berdych has become a stud huh. He is there in the second week of slams now. ANd I must say he has a good shot against Fed although i will be rooting against him :) Fedal will not be denied.

paseo
06-26-2010, 08:22 PM
Nadal will surely win this. Mathieu is a mental midget. If he gets the chance to win it, that's a supremely big IF, he'll choke.

Manequin75
06-26-2010, 08:23 PM
PHM makes Petz look like John Isner in terms of mental toughness. What's most likely to happen is PHM will be up 6-3 6-4 1-1 and Nadal will take another "injury" timeout and that'll be the end. Another easy 5 sets win for Nadal afterwards.

so all rafa needs to do in losing positions is to take 3 min medical timeouts and the match changes? wow!!! Futile for Rafa to unneccassary put in so much work in his practice sessions and improve his game. The funny thing was I saw Phillip running out of gas in the 4th set and his serves were losing their sting. He had diffculties holding serve - like 3-4 deuces and had to save 2-3 breakpoints. Then Rafa takes a timeout at the next changeover and I was actually mad because i thought phillip was getting a breather and that cant be good for rafa.

Clay Death
06-26-2010, 08:24 PM
Rafa in 4, maybe 3.

unless the knee is acting up and the pain gets worse, its the clay warrior in straight sets.

he will be all business if he can heal up a little. the intense focus returns now.

Allegretto
06-26-2010, 08:34 PM
Mathieu has the mental fortitude of a newborn puppy. He cannot beat Nadal.

nanoman
06-26-2010, 08:39 PM
No chance whatsoever for the Frenchman. He'll rally long to allow Nadal to frustrate him with CC FH's.

allpro
06-26-2010, 08:54 PM
6-7(5), 6-4, 6-3, 6-2 nadal. the frenchman will run out of gas.

green25814
06-26-2010, 09:04 PM
Mathieu has been good, but I reckon Nadal will outlast him ala his last two opponents.

Rafaspin
06-26-2010, 09:12 PM
Nadal in 3.

abraxas21
06-26-2010, 09:59 PM
Paul isn't very good on grass and he's a good match up for Nadal.

Nadal should take this in 3.

Persimmon
06-26-2010, 10:31 PM
Paul-Henri Mathieu in 2.

The Magician
06-26-2010, 10:40 PM
so all rafa needs to do in losing positions is to take 3 min medical timeouts and the match changes? wow!!! Futile for Rafa to unneccassary put in so much work in his practice sessions and improve his game. The funny thing was I saw Phillip running out of gas in the 4th set and his serves were losing their sting. He had diffculties holding serve - like 3-4 deuces and had to save 2-3 breakpoints. Then Rafa takes a timeout at the next changeover and I was actually mad because i thought phillip was getting a breather and that cant be good for rafa.

Actually all he has to do is get on court coaching, take strategic medical timeouts, fake limping and grab his knees at arbitrary times, take insane amounts of time to do everything and slow the game down to his snail's pace. Then yeah, he should win against the majority of mental midgets on tour (PHM being one of the biggest).

Obviously you don't understand momentum, after a close service game like Petz had the other player is often broken. This is because the momentum shifts and the exertion of trying to break and failing can be draining. I can tell you Nadal understands this perfectly.

Johnny_Bravo
06-26-2010, 11:03 PM
PHM in 5 :cool:

straitup
06-26-2010, 11:04 PM
Actually all he has to do is get on court coaching, take strategic medical timeouts, fake limping and grab his knees at arbitrary times, take insane amounts of time to do everything and slow the game down to his snail's pace. Then yeah, he should win against the majority of mental midgets on tour (PHM being one of the biggest).

Obviously you don't understand momentum, after a close service game like Petz had the other player is often broken. This is because the momentum shifts and the exertion of trying to break and failing can be draining. I can tell you Nadal understands this perfectly.

Maybe he'll choke on a banana again :confused: :lol:

bad gambler
06-26-2010, 11:14 PM
Much needed routine match for Rafa. He'll win in 3 or 4

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 11:18 PM
If Nadal's knee is alright, he should be able to win this one in straight sets. The difference is that Mathieu's serve isn't as good as Hasse and Petzschner.

Dyraise
06-26-2010, 11:23 PM
Mathieu is not rival for Rafa.

ShotmaKer
06-26-2010, 11:23 PM
If Nadal's knee is alright, he should be able to win this one in straight sets. The difference is that Mathieu's serve isn't as good as Hasse and Petzschner.

Paulo can return better though.

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 11:25 PM
Paulo can return better though.
And Nadal will take his chances against a better returner over a better server. It takes the racquet out of his hand when someone is serving lights out. Very frustrating for Rafa.

Zagor
06-26-2010, 11:30 PM
Can't really see Mathieu beating Nadal although he could make it difficult for him,he can hit pretty big and clean.I always remember their 2006 RG match which was amazing.I think Nadal in 4 sets.

Mjau!
06-26-2010, 11:40 PM
Nadal might tank to avoid Söderling since he knows he doesn't stand a chance on this surface right now.

Zagor
06-26-2010, 11:46 PM
Nadal might tank to avoid Söderling since he knows he doesn't stand a chance on this surface right now.

Soderling is hardly a grasscourt specialist,his best slam results have been on clay which allows him more time to setup his big shots.I do think he has a good chance to win if they meet in QF but it's hardly a lock,for all we know we might see another epic,like their 2007 match.

Mjau!
06-26-2010, 11:52 PM
Prime Nadal barely beat a pre-prime Toad on grass... this time it's gonna get ugly... Robin played Federer in 4th round last year and was a journeyman everywhere except indoors before that... Norman thinks grass might be Robin's best surface...

osmonde
06-26-2010, 11:58 PM
Sod has problem picking up very low ball something Nadal does very well.
That will be his problem, even if Sod serves big and hits flat shots.

Roddick practiced with Rafa this week and was amazed about his ability of picking up ball at his foot and cross volley it perfectly.

Simon reported that as well, after looking at a Nadal practice, he repeated that same shot until he gets it right.
And then he goes to another shot until...

Simon saw the next game Nadal played in which he had not used those but it is how he works to improve...in case he needs those specific ones.

We can't say he takes his tennis for granted even if he is talented, that is is work ethic.

helloicanseeu
06-27-2010, 12:14 AM
if nadal is 100% healthy, it'll be a quick 3 sets

but he isnt, he's worn out by the 5 setters,
his movement is a bit affected by his longstanding knee issues and now his thighs dont feel too good.

the last 2 matches, it was more like he outlasted them,
petzschner and haase couldn't play any better tennis, but they couldnt keep up the intensity for 5 sets

but it should still be a 3-0 to nadal,
mathieu is not near his top form this wimbly, he keeps missing 1st serves and is making lots of fh ues.

Johnny Groove
06-27-2010, 12:16 AM
If Rafa doesn't get his act together, he might lose.

peribsen
06-27-2010, 12:30 AM
If Rafa doesn't get his act together, he might lose.

Big deal. Any player might lose, in every single game. Losing is part of the sport. Difference between good players and excellent players is how often they lose, and whether they are capable of getting really big wins, mostly meaning majors. No single loss is a catastrophe, there are more tournaments down the line. The huge relevance that MTF gives loses is only... well, MTF.

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
06-27-2010, 02:34 AM
can a frenchman beat the king of french clay?

c'est impossible

whattheheck
06-27-2010, 02:42 AM
Nadal in 3

ORGASMATRON
06-27-2010, 02:59 AM
Nadal might tank to avoid Söderling since he knows he doesn't stand a chance on this surface right now.

well if he loses we will know why, lets just put it that way.

nsidhan
06-27-2010, 04:01 AM
Nadal will win this one. Sadly.

On the bright side, he will get his ass spanked by Robin Soderling. Go back to Mallorca cheater.

AndyNonomous
06-27-2010, 04:14 AM
Funny about all the squealing by the Nadal fans, about how hard his draw was, when it is turning out to be no tougher than Roger's.

Topspin Forehand
06-27-2010, 06:24 AM
Funny about all the squealing by the Nadal fans, about how hard his draw was, when it is turning out to be no tougher than Roger's.
Fed's draw is not even close to Nadal's. The worst part is coming up in the Quarterfinals and Semifinals. Nadal will unlikely get to the finals due to the 2 toughest matchups Nadal will have to face in a row.

vn01
06-27-2010, 07:49 AM
Rafa in 3

HarryMan
06-27-2010, 07:55 AM
Mathieu doesn't have as big a serve as Petzschner. The thing about Nadal is once the point goes into a neutral position there is virtually no one that can stand a chance against him in baseline rallies. You need to hit big, serve big and consistently if you need to beat him. Nadal should win this in four.

Rafaspin
06-27-2010, 08:03 AM
Nadal will win this one. Sadly.

On the bright side, he will get his ass spanked by Robin Soderling. Go back to Mallorca cheater.


^Does this clown ever turn up in the week following a Federer lost to Nadal?

Is federer the highlight of your life? I'd just assume all your hate for Nadal is based on his success against federer. No girlfriend, dead end job, renting a run down apartment with flatmates or something? :lol:

Grow up. You are 31 years old clown.

Arkulari
06-27-2010, 08:05 AM
Rafa in 3 or 4 :)

NADALbULLS
06-27-2010, 08:17 AM
I actually think PHM stands a realistic chance.

PHM in 5.

Nah cos Nadal has won 12 of his 14 5-setters and is on a roll mentally now with self-belief, so I hope this does go to 5 cos that would be a definite Nadal win.

It would take a very special player to beat Nadal, because Nadal's serve is so great he only faced 2 breakpoints the entire match vs Petz, so good luck to whoever faces Nadal but serve is killing with 132 mile per hour bombs!

Start da Game
06-27-2010, 08:30 AM
Mathieu doesn't have as big a serve as Petzschner. The thing about Nadal is once the point goes into a neutral position there is virtually no one that can stand a chance against him in baseline rallies. You need to hit big, serve big and consistently if you need to beat him. Nadal should win this in four.

this.......to beat nadal, you need to serve big and take high risks.......if you don't, he will kill your will to play tennis with his defense.......

born_on_clay
06-27-2010, 11:47 AM
Rafa in 3

Armless
06-27-2010, 11:49 AM
rafa in 4

Mateya
06-27-2010, 12:01 PM
I'm sorry Paulo, but I think you can start packing :hug: A great tournament anyway.

Rafzilla in 3 or 4, if he plays a good match.
Rafzilla in 5, if he plays a bad match (Haase, Petzschner, etc.)

Shirogane
06-27-2010, 12:20 PM
Nadal will win this one. Sadly.

On the bright side, he will get his ass spanked by Robin Soderling. Go back to Mallorca cheater.

Hopefully that's what will happen, but why is everybody so confident that Sod is that good on grass?

MacTheKnife
06-27-2010, 12:21 PM
:lol: Didn't know PHM has so many fans..

Har-Tru
06-27-2010, 12:27 PM
Nadal too mentally strong for PHM.

However, I expect Söderling to rip him a good one.

MacTheKnife
06-27-2010, 12:28 PM
Nadal too mentally strong for PHM.

However, I expect Söderling to rip him a good one.


The avi....:yeah: - :lol:

Tonkie13
06-27-2010, 12:31 PM
Rafael in 3

Shirogane
06-27-2010, 12:31 PM
:lol: Didn't know PHM has so many fans..

18 voters – is that what you're calling so many fans?

MacTheKnife
06-27-2010, 12:49 PM
18 voters – is that what you're calling so many fans?


The :lol: should be a tip off, but obviously was not..;)

Shirogane
06-27-2010, 12:55 PM
ahah ok my bad.

Stefanos13
06-27-2010, 01:09 PM
Nadal in 3 – or Nadal loses if he still has problems with his knees. I don't think there's half-way result on this one

NADALbULLS
06-27-2010, 01:45 PM
Nadal's knee certainly is moving well enough to win Wimbledon, based on the movement in his last match. Plus he said he knows what this knee problem is and that he's fine playing with it. If Nadal loses it will be because Mathieu is the better player.

Stefanos13
06-27-2010, 01:51 PM
Nadal's knee certainly is moving well enough to win Wimbledon, based on the movement in his last match. Plus he said he knows what this knee problem is and that he's fine playing with it. If Nadal loses it will be because Mathieu is the better player.

Good point, but the knee problem affects his shots more, rather than the movement – which is what people overlooked when criticising him for yesterday's match. When his knees hurt he can't put weight on them to create his powerful forehands and backhands

Audacity
06-27-2010, 02:09 PM
R. Nadal

Corey Feldman
06-27-2010, 02:13 PM
Nadal in 3 after being brought out in a stretcher and taken back in on a wheelchair

NADALbULLS
06-27-2010, 02:23 PM
Good point, but the knee problem affects his shots more, rather than the movement – which is what people overlooked when criticising him for yesterday's match. When his knees hurt he can't put weight on them to create his powerful forehands and backhands

That is theoretically possible, but he's lacking no power so far, looked fantastic when he really had to hit Petz off the court, lots of power. The Haase match too, I think he's hitting harder than he's ever hit.

abraxas21
06-27-2010, 04:14 PM
Faker in 3.

Paulo's serve isn't good enough.

M4RC
06-27-2010, 06:20 PM
Nadal might tank to avoid Söderling since he knows he doesn't stand a chance on this surface right now.

You wish.

Prime Nadal barely beat a pre-prime Toad on grass... this time it's gonna get ugly... Robin played Federer in 4th round last year and was a journeyman everywhere except indoors before that... Norman thinks grass might be Robin's best surface...

2007 is prime Nadal? :haha: :worship: Also, barely one month ago Soderling's best surface was clay and Nadal was going to lose badly in the RG final. Do I need to quote the posts you wrote back then? Stop thinking Soderling's in Nadal's league because he's not and he'll never be. In this era there are two leagues: Fedal and then the rest. Soderling is one of the average dudes of THE REST.

Fedicilous
06-27-2010, 06:43 PM
You wish.



Stop thinking Soderling's in Nadal's league because he's not and he'll never be. In this era there are two leagues: Fedal and then the rest. Soderling is one of the average dudes of THE REST.

Yes, definitely a man which destroyed Nadal on clay,in GRAND SLAM, forcing him to lose for the first time at Roland Garros, and after that mopped him in ATP World Tour Barclays is a average player.

I hope Soderling smashes this Cheatdal, maybe then some tards will open their eyes.

Orka_n
06-27-2010, 09:03 PM
Stop thinking Soderling's in Nadal's league because he's not and he'll never be.No, Soderling won't win 7 slams. But that doesn't mean he can't beat your hero in every single match they play from now on.
In this era there are two leagues: Fedal and then the rest. Soderling is one of the average dudes of THE REST.The world #6 (and soon higher than that) is avarage? :haha: Nadaltards like you only dislike Soderling because he beat Kneedal in RG09. And the Fedal domination is getting weaker by the day, you know.

Edit: Regarding this match, I hope for Mathieu, but Nadull will probably take it in 4.

ORGASMATRON
06-27-2010, 09:09 PM
You wish.



2007 is prime Nadal? :haha: :worship: Also, barely one month ago Soderling's best surface was clay and Nadal was going to lose badly in the RG final. Do I need to quote the posts you wrote back then? Stop thinking Soderling's in Nadal's league because he's not and he'll never be. In this era there are two leagues: Fedal and then the rest. Soderling is one of the average dudes of THE REST.

soderling is to nadal what nadal is to federer. and you tards always claim that nadal is in federers league. stop your tardish posts already and grow up.

ORGASMATRON
06-27-2010, 09:12 PM
No, Soderling won't win 7 slams. But that doesn't mean he can't beat your hero in every single match they play from now on.
The world #6 (and soon higher than that) is avarage? :haha: Nadaltards like you only dislike Soderling because he beat Kneedal in RG09. And the Fedal domination is getting weaker by the day, you know.

Edit: Regarding this match, I hope for Mathieu, but Nadull will probably take it in 4.

i wanted a fedal final, but after nadals exploits yesterday and seeing the tards on MTF i now well and truly want for soderling to send him packing once more.

andy neyer
06-27-2010, 09:12 PM
Stop thinking Soderling's in Nadal's league because he's not and he'll never be. In this era there are two leagues: Fedal and then the rest. Soderling is one of the average dudes of THE REST.

Actually, there is Federer's league and then there's Nadal's league. Don't pretend for a second that Nadal is in the same league as Fed. Once he gets 16 GS or dominates the circuit the way Federer dominated it in 2005 or 2006 we'll talk.

Aenea
06-27-2010, 09:26 PM
Actually, there is Federer's league and then there's Nadal's league. Don't pretend for a second that Nadal is in the same league as Fed. Once he gets 16 GS or dominates the circuit the way Federer dominated it in 2005 or 2006 we'll talk.

Acctually Rafa has been dominating the circuit for many years as he has been #2 for a very long time. And for that time he has been beating Fed many times as well. So what you say is not quite true. Besides Rafa is much younger than Fed.

andy neyer
06-27-2010, 09:29 PM
Acctually Rafa has been dominating the circuit for many years as he has been #2 for a very long time. And for that time he has been beating Fed many times as well. So what you say is not quite true. Besides Rafa is much younger than Fed.

Being number 2 doesn't equal to dominate the circuit. And even at number 1, Nadal has not and will never dominate the circuit in the way Federer did in his glory days. On top of this, he will never get the amount of GS Federer has obtained so stop dreaming. Nadal isn't in Fed's league. Never has been and never will. :wavey:

Aenea
06-27-2010, 09:34 PM
Being number 2 doesn't equal to dominate the circuit. And even at number 1, Nadal has not and will never dominate the circuit in the way Federer did in his glory days and he will never get the amount of GS Federer has obtained so stop dreaming. Nadal isn't in Fed's league. Never has been and never will. :wavey:

I am not dreaming about anything :shrug: I have been happy with being Rafafan when he only had 1 FO and I am happy with his 7 GS now :shrug: I don't really count how many GS/TMS my fav has. I am happy watching his game. Why for you everything comes down to the titles won? It sounds so cheap. And I don't care if you count Rafa in Fed's league or not.

Machiavelli
06-27-2010, 09:38 PM
Time for Mathieu to save this amazing sport, if he fails then there is stil Soderking

Johnny Groove
06-27-2010, 09:40 PM
MTF will never change.

Sapeod
06-27-2010, 09:48 PM
Hope Mathieu wins, knocks out the cheater and saves tennis. Nadull doesn't deserve to go any further after all that disgusting sportsmanship against Petzschner :o

ShotmaKer
06-27-2010, 09:59 PM
lol

Topspin Forehand
06-27-2010, 09:59 PM
I am not dreaming about anything :shrug: I have been happy with being Rafafan when he only had 1 FO and I am happy with his 7 GS now :shrug: I don't really count how many GS/TMS my fav has. I am happy watching his game. Why for you everything comes down to the titles won? It sounds so cheap. And I don't care if you count Rafa in Fed's league or not.
That's the way Fedtards think. It doesn't matter that you are an arrogant prick. It's about how many slams you win. That's what Fedtards are about.

Eden
06-27-2010, 11:13 PM
Nadal in 3 – or Nadal loses if he still has problems with his knees. I don't think there's half-way result on this one

According to Rafa and Uncle Toni the knee feels good after todays practice session:


Nadal: Right knee 'not bad' after practice session
AP - Sunday, June 27, 2010


WIMBLEDON, England (AP)—Rafael Nadal says his right knee feels "good, good; not bad" after a 40-minute practice session at the All England Club.

Toni Nadal, Rafael's uncle and coach, says the knee "is so much better" Sunday than it was a day earlier, when the 2008 Wimbledon champion received treatment from a trainer at changeovers during his five-set comeback victory in the third round.

Rafael Nadal skipped the tournament last year because of tendinitis in both knees.

After Sunday's day off, Wimbledon resumes Monday with all 16 men's and women's fourth-round matches. The second-seeded Nadal faces 66th-ranked Paul-Henri Mathieu of France.

Toni Nadal says he and his nephew "are nervous about the opponent, but not the knee, at the moment."

Source: http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=6253&zoneid=4

andy neyer
06-27-2010, 11:28 PM
I am not dreaming about anything :shrug: I have been happy with being Rafafan when he only had 1 FO and I am happy with his 7 GS now :shrug: I don't really count how many GS/TMS my fav has. I am happy watching his game. Why for you everything comes down to the titles won? It sounds so cheap. And I don't care if you count Rafa in Fed's league or not.

For me everything is not just about the amount of titles won. There are many players that I like watching who don't win much at all. However, when it comes to have the discussion of which league someone is, then achievements are the objective parameter, no? In that sense, I say that Nadal isn't in Federer's league.

I'm sorry if I was too confrontational. I think I was.

andy neyer
06-27-2010, 11:30 PM
That's the way Fedtards think. It doesn't matter that you are an arrogant prick. It's about how many slams you win. That's what Fedtards are about.

"Arrogant prick" is a nice choice of words :)

MIMIC
06-27-2010, 11:35 PM
Errr...Nadal in 3.

ORGASMATRON
06-27-2010, 11:38 PM
"Arrogant prick" is a nice choice of words :)

i like that the GOAT is an arrogant prick. its killing the haters :lol::devil::hearts:

NADALbULLS
06-28-2010, 12:06 AM
soderling is to nadal what nadal is to federer. and you tards always claim that nadal is in federers league. stop your tardish posts already and grow up.

What is Nadal vs Soderling head-to-head?

HKz
06-28-2010, 12:07 AM
Acctually Rafa has been dominating the circuit for many years as he has been #2 for a very long time. And for that time he has been beating Fed many times as well. So what you say is not quite true. Besides Rafa is much younger than Fed.

Being number 2 is not dominating :wavey: especially when you get almost all your points off of clay.

That's the way Fedtards think. It doesn't matter that you are an arrogant prick. It's about how many slams you win. That's what Fedtards are about.

Once again, this an individual sport idiot. Go join a bookclub pansy, who cares if someone is nice or not. Clearly not the reason why we watch sports.

NADALbULLS
06-28-2010, 12:10 AM
Being number 2 is not dominating :wavey: especially when you get almost all your points off of clay.

From 2008 to 2009 Nadal won 3 slams, and 2 of them were not on clay. That's dominating. Also won the Olympics (beat Djokovic in the semis even).

HKz
06-28-2010, 12:11 AM
From 2008 to 2009 Nadal won 3 slams, and 2 of them were not on clay. That's dominating.

Federer just did that as well :wavey:

NADALbULLS
06-28-2010, 12:11 AM
Federer just did that as well :wavey:

Not by beating the best.

HKz
06-28-2010, 12:13 AM
Any point?

You want to get off Nadal's nutsack and enjoy tennis pathetic boy rather than posting half a million times about how much you love Nadal and apparently he does everything so perfectly. Did you know there are other threads that don't include Nadal?

NADALbULLS
06-28-2010, 12:14 AM
You want to get off Nadal's nutsack and enjoy tennis pathetic boy rather than posting half a million times about how much you love Nadal and apparently he does everything so perfectly. Did you know there are other threads that don't include Nadal?

Only replying to the hatred, not initiating Nadal threads.

A_Skywalker
06-28-2010, 12:15 AM
Once again, this an individual sport idiot. Go join a bookclub pansy, who cares if someone is nice or not. Clearly not the reason why we watch sports.

How can you say that it doesnt matter if he is nice or not. Do you enjoy wtching some arrogant prick winning or you prefer the nicer ones.
Im off to bed

ORGASMATRON
06-28-2010, 12:18 AM
What is Nadal vs Soderling head-to-head?

doesnt matter. history looks at slam titles not h2h.

HKz
06-28-2010, 12:18 AM
How can you say that it doesnt matter if he is nice or not. Do you enjoy wtching some arrogant prick winning or you prefer the nicer ones.
Im off to bed

I certainly don't care. If the arrogant prick has a better game, that is all I care about. If I want to meet a nice person, I would go elsewhere. This is a sport, clearly no one here knows any top player personally, so why the hell would it matter. Why the hell would it affect you if someone you will never meet or interact with is arrogant/nice? It doesn't. All pros deserve the same amount of respect for their achievements regardless of their personal attitude. Plus, if all pros were "humble and nice" like apparently Rafael is to Rafatards (who IMO is just as arrogant as Federer) then the game would become boring.

For those who watch to improve their tennis games, they watch because of the pro's game, not because he's arrogant which by the way is pretty much required if you want any kind of consistency in an individualistic sport.

Only replying to the hatred, not initiating Nadal threads.

Well clearly having an account name called NADALbULLs means something, not to mention you reply in each Nadal thread half a million times.

Fed=ATPTourkilla
06-28-2010, 12:38 AM
PHM is a good bet for this match. Nadal's heart may not be completely in it given that (i) he knows he will have to go through Soderling, Murray and then whoever makes it through the top half, and won't be looking forward to it; (ii) he has just played two five-setters.

NADALbULLS
06-28-2010, 12:50 AM
doesnt matter. history looks at slam titles not h2h.

And Nadal owns Soderling and Federer in both regards. Nadal has 7 more slams than Soderling did at age 24, and Nadal has 2 more slams than Federer did at age 24.

ORGASMATRON
06-28-2010, 12:56 AM
And Nadal owns Soderling and Federer in both regards. Nadal has 7 more slams than Soderling did at age 24, and Nadal has 2 more slams than Federer did at age 24.

and federer has 9 more slams than nadal at 28. lets see if you can figure that one out statmaster :o:D

Matt01
06-28-2010, 01:26 AM
soderling is to nadal what nadal is to federer.


What? :lol:

ORGASMATRON
06-28-2010, 01:35 AM
And Nadal owns Soderling and Federer in both regards. Nadal has 7 more slams than Soderling did at age 24, and Nadal has 2 more slams than Federer did at age 24.

actually soderling is closer to nadal than nadal is to federer. you should be able to figure that one out by yourself ;)

NADALbULLS
06-28-2010, 01:39 AM
actually soderling is closer to nadal than nadal is to federer. you should be able to figure that one out by yourself ;)

Exactly, Soderling is closer to beating Nadal than Federer is to beating Nadal. Plus Soderling just schooled Federer. The new top 2 will be Nadal and Soderling.

ORGASMATRON
06-28-2010, 01:52 AM
Exactly, Soderling is closer to beating Nadal than Federer is to beating Nadal. Plus Soderling just schooled Federer. The new top 2 will be Nadal and Soderling.

you got that all wrong old sport, sorry to inform you. if federer sunk to 1000 in the world tomorrow the same would still be true. here, let me spell it out for you. federer has 9 more slams than nadal, while nadal only has 7 more then soderling. which makes soderling closer to nadal than nadal to federer. did you get that? good.

id love to see you back on this thread if soderling beats nadal and federer beats soderling in the final. im not betting my house on it though.

now dont bother me again. im about to go to sleep.

Sunset of Age
06-28-2010, 01:55 AM
Rafa in straights.
PHM lacks Haase's fighting spirit, and being a true headcase, will surely be rattled even more than Petzschner if Rafa pulls one of his 'tricks' again. ;)

Manequin75
06-28-2010, 02:02 AM
Rafa in straights.
PHM lacks Haase's fighting spirit, and being a true headcase, will surely be rattled even more than Petzschner if Rafa pulls one of his 'tricks' again. ;)

so you think rafa calling the medical timeout was a trick? How dare you think so? Is that what you think a champ like Rafa would resort to ? Disgusting to hear you say that....:mad:

thoughts going on in the innermost chambers of my mind written with invisible ink - "oh dear the common man is catching up to this. gotta remind Rafito to call the trainer when he is leading 2 sets to love with a break up in the third set and prior to his own service game tomorrow - just so that it is clear rafa needs timeouts irrespective of the game situation. SO all this bs gets laid to rest";)

Mjau!
06-28-2010, 02:07 AM
You wish.



2007 is prime Nadal? :haha: :worship: Also, barely one month ago Soderling's best surface was clay and Nadal was going to lose badly in the RG final. Do I need to quote the posts you wrote back then? Stop thinking Soderling's in Nadal's league because he's not and he'll never be. In this era there are two leagues: Fedal and then the rest. Soderling is one of the average dudes of THE REST.

Negative, I WANT Rafa to play Robin here! :p

Go ahead and quote me, payaso! I never said Robin's best surface is clay and I picked Nadal to win the RG final! :wavey:

Nadal doesn't belong in Federer's league! :lol: That's like comparing Becker and Laver. :rolleyes:

Robin has Nadal's number on grass, you just don't know it yet. :wavey:

According to Rafa and Uncle Toni the knee feels good after todays practice session:


Nadal: Right knee 'not bad' after practice session
AP - Sunday, June 27, 2010


WIMBLEDON, England (AP)—Rafael Nadal says his right knee feels "good, good; not bad" after a 40-minute practice session at the All England Club.

Toni Nadal, Rafael's uncle and coach, says the knee "is so much better" Sunday than it was a day earlier, when the 2008 Wimbledon champion received treatment from a trainer at changeovers during his five-set comeback victory in the third round.

Rafael Nadal skipped the tournament last year because of tendinitis in both knees.

After Sunday's day off, Wimbledon resumes Monday with all 16 men's and women's fourth-round matches. The second-seeded Nadal faces 66th-ranked Paul-Henri Mathieu of France.

Toni Nadal says he and his nephew "are nervous about the opponent, but not the knee, at the moment."

Source: http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=6253&zoneid=4

FAKER! :rain:

Manequin75
06-28-2010, 02:08 AM
you got that all wrong old sport, sorry to inform you. if federer sunk to 1000 in the world tomorrow the same would still be true. here, let me spell it out for you. federer has 9 more slams than nadal, while nadal only has 7 more then soderling. which makes soderling closer to nadal than nadal to federer. did you get that? good.

id love to see you back on this thread if soderling beats nadal and federer beats soderling in the final. im not betting my house on it though.

now dont bother me again. im about to go to sleep.

actually in tennis terms 7 is much closer to 16 then 0 to 7. Sure blind arithmetic says the reverse but someone who has shown he can win 7 at age 24 is more likely to get to 16 then someone who has zero getting to seven (this group includes pretty much all pro players today barring a select few)

Sunset of Age
06-28-2010, 02:11 AM
so you think rafa calling the medical timeout was a trick? How dare you think so? Is that what you think a champ like Rafa would resort to ? Disgusting to hear you say that....:mad:

Cool it, I wasn't being serious. You missed my ';)', or what? ;) - again.

And even if I were serious, I am of the opinion that a player should not allow himself to get himself rattled by any possible 'mind games' (which are a part of the game!) his opponent opposes onto him... this is what 'mental fortitude' is all about. :)

Manequin75
06-28-2010, 02:14 AM
Cool it, I wasn't being serious. You missed my ';)', or what? ;) - again.

And even if I were serious, I am of the opinion that a player should not allow himself to get himself rattled by any possible 'mind games' (which are a part of the game!) his opponent opposes onto him... this is what 'mental fortitude' is all about. :)

you didnt get my following paragraph? I was faking being mad. Im a big Rafa fan. I have picked some up too ya know ;)

Sunset of Age
06-28-2010, 02:17 AM
you didnt get my following paragraph? I was faking being mad. Im a big Rafa fan. I have picked some up too ya know ;)

I might well have missed something, yeah... :lol:

:hug: I like you, fellow Fedal fan!

Manequin75
06-28-2010, 02:20 AM
I might well have missed something, yeah... :lol:

:hug: I like you, fellow Fedal fan!


i am thinking of using "Naderer" instead of "Fedal" depending on who is rankeed higher. LOL

Sunset of Age
06-28-2010, 02:22 AM
i am thinking of using "Naderer" instead of "Fedal" depending on who is rankeed higher. LOL

Is okay with me! :D

rocketassist
06-28-2010, 02:35 AM
Why is this even a WWW? PHM chokes against just about any big name player in a winning position in a GS- he could be up two sets and 5-0 and he still wouldn't be fave here.

Topspin Forehand
06-28-2010, 03:41 AM
you got that all wrong old sport, sorry to inform you. if federer sunk to 1000 in the world tomorrow the same would still be true. here, let me spell it out for you. federer has 9 more slams than nadal, while nadal only has 7 more then soderling. which makes soderling closer to nadal than nadal to federer. did you get that? good.

Well I'm glad to inform you that Federer is no longer the player he once was. Soderling and Nadal are playing like the top 2 players now. Federer almost lost to Falla. I'm enjoying the present and don't care how the past was.

paseo
06-28-2010, 04:43 AM
According to Rafa and Uncle Toni the knee feels good after todays practice session:


Nadal: Right knee 'not bad' after practice session
AP - Sunday, June 27, 2010


WIMBLEDON, England (AP)—Rafael Nadal says his right knee feels "good, good; not bad" after a 40-minute practice session at the All England Club.

Toni Nadal, Rafael's uncle and coach, says the knee "is so much better" Sunday than it was a day earlier, when the 2008 Wimbledon champion received treatment from a trainer at changeovers during his five-set comeback victory in the third round.

Rafael Nadal skipped the tournament last year because of tendinitis in both knees.

After Sunday's day off, Wimbledon resumes Monday with all 16 men's and women's fourth-round matches. The second-seeded Nadal faces 66th-ranked Paul-Henri Mathieu of France.

Toni Nadal says he and his nephew "are nervous about the opponent, but not the knee, at the moment."

Source: http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=6253&zoneid=4

Rafa, Rafa, Rafa... You never needed that injury time out in the first place, do you?

I'm starting to think that Nadal is low on confidence right now. Even when he was down, I was sure that he would still win. He didn't need that gamesmanship stuff, his game is good enough. But, it looks like Nadal doesn't have that belief in himself. Maybe that's why he took the time out. He's so desperate to have success out side clay right now, that he'd do almost anything to get it. Cause once he got it, he can believe in himself once again.

I don't know. I can always be wrong, of course. But, belief or no belief, Mathieu still has no chance.

osmonde
06-28-2010, 05:03 AM
I think that it is not the belief in itself that Nadal suffers, but the belief in his knee...
he must be afraid to aggravate his injury and he knows pretty well why he feels insecure; not with his shots, but with his mouvement.

NADALbULLS
06-28-2010, 05:27 AM
I think that it is not the belief in itself that Nadal suffers, but the belief in his knee...
he must be afraid to aggravate his injury and he knows pretty well why he feels insecure; not with his shots, but with his mouvement.

Well...

Q. With all the ways your game depends on your legs, the power you get from your legs, with all these problems with your knees, does that affect you at all on court? Do you think about it?

RAFAEL NADAL: No. I was perfect mentally for all the year, no? I think that doesn't affect to my mind. Sometimes in the past, yes, when I don't know exactly what happen. I know right now exactly what happen and what I have to do to pull out this pain.

So I gonna do it after this tournament and try my best on this tournament. I definitely going to have a break to change that I hope for a long time.

abraxas21
06-28-2010, 05:30 AM
I think that it is not the belief in itself that Nadal suffers, but the belief in his knee...
he must be afraid to aggravate his injury and he knows pretty well why he feels insecure; not with his shots, but with his mouvement.

I don't trust Nadal's injuries much anymore, tbh. I don't deny he's had injuries or that he has tendinitis but i think he takes it out of proportion to take pressure off him at times. He doesn't directly say it but the image always is "how can Nadal win when his knees are in such a terrible shape?". And then he goes on to win every tournament he plays in the clay court season. I know many of his fans believe that he's a Spartan who fights through pain and to a high degree I agree with that but I also think that his physical shape isn't nearly as bad as many tend to think it is.

If Nadal showed clear signs of being slower or having troubles with his serve (something for which knees are important) or whatever it is after taking a medical time-out, then I'd trust him more but when he takes injury time outs and then keeps running like rabbit it is just hard not to question the true reasons behind asking for a time-out.

NADALbULLS
06-28-2010, 05:33 AM
I don't trust Nadal's injuries much anymore, tbh. It think he's had injuries and he has tendinitis but i think he takes it out of proportion to take pressure off him at times. He doesn't directly say it but the image always is "how can Nadal win when his knees are gone?". And then he goes on to win every tournament he plays in the clay court season. I know many of his fans believe that he's a Spartan who fights through pain and to a high degree I agree with that but I also think that his physical shape isn't nearly as bad as many tend to think it is.

If Nadal showed clear signs of being slower or having troubles with his serve (something for which knees are important) or whatever it is after taking a medical time-out, then I'd trust him more but when he takes injury time outs and then keeps running like rabbit it is just hard not to question the true reasons behind asking for a time-out.

Well...

Q. How much are you worried about your knee? Is there a risk you should skip the Davis Cup tie after Wimbledon?

RAFAEL NADAL: Yeah. Well, sure, I am a little bit scared about the knee. But, you know, it happen. I had a treatment after Monte‑Carlo. So I had the problem. I didn't say nothing before, but you know, guys, how is everything. I had the problem against Roddick in the semifinals of Miami.

I don't like to say nothing in that moment because when you lose, always looks like an excuse. But I can say now I had the problem after I played in Monte‑Carlo with a little bit of pain on the knee, on the left knee, because that's what happened there.

After Monte‑Carlo, I didn't play Barcelona because I had to do a treatment, new treatment. You know, I tried to play the clay season perfect because in that moment the right knee was better than the left. But at the same time I know the knees are not hundred percent recovered. But playing on clay and maybe on grass, if is not very long matches, can work well.

But the last treatments I did between Monte‑Carlo and Rome was perfect. I didn't have no one more problem on the left knee. But just I did one time, and I need to do three times.

I didn't have time to do it at the right knee before because I had to play. The clay season was my main goal of the season. After here I gonna do it another time, no? My goals for me is a big disappointment not be in the Davis Cup on France, you know. Some confrontations, if you play at home against some country, maybe you cannot play this one. But playing in France for me is a very special confrontation and a very big motivation for me.

But I talked with the captain, I talked with the president of the Federation a few days ago, and I said, Guys, I never arrive to the US Open with my hundred percent of conditions. I had last year broken abdominal, two years ago playing crazy here. After Olympics, I did arrive very tired. And I really want to try to go there with my best chances, no, to play, to play my hundred percent.

So I need to do this treatment after here. If I play Davis Cup, I don't have enough time to recover and play tournaments, Cincinnati. Everything was perfect for me last few months, and I need to be ready to finish the season well. My goal is try to keep having the chance to be No. 1 for the rest of the season. That's gonna be difficult. But if you are not in hundred percent of condition, is going to be impossible.

abraxas21
06-28-2010, 05:36 AM
Rafa, Rafa, Rafa... You never needed that injury time out in the first place, do you?

I'm starting to think that Nadal is low on confidence right now. Even when he was down, I was sure that he would still win. He didn't need that gamesmanship stuff, his game is good enough. But, it looks like Nadal doesn't have that belief in himself. Maybe that's why he took the time out. He's so desperate to have success out side clay right now, that he'd do almost anything to get it. Cause once he got it, he can believe in himself once again.

I don't know. I can always be wrong, of course. But, belief or no belief, Mathieu still has no chance.

Maybe it was a confidence thing. Maybe he thought he needed some time to regroup. Then again, I noticed he first said something about his elbow. Then his elbow was fine but said he had trouble with the knee. All those changes make what he says even harder to believe.

PHM doesn't have much a chance. Realistically, Soda should be a harder test but Rafa is so strong mentally that if Soda doesn't take his chances, I'm sure Rafa will make him pay.

abraxas21
06-28-2010, 05:39 AM
Well...

Well what exactly? I read the interview part and I truly don't see how any of it refutes what I said. What I said cannot be refuted by words but simply by facts.

NADALbULLS
06-28-2010, 05:47 AM
Well what exactly? I read the interview part and I truly don't see how any of it refutes what I said. What I said cannot be refuted by words but simply by facts.

Well...the fact is he's withdrawn from the Davis Cup. So obviously his knees truly need rest, there is nothing questionable about it. He continues to win because he doesn't need to be 100% to win slams. He's truly in pain when he plays though, it's not for 'image'. He tries to hide his injury whenever he can, and didn't tell anyone during this clay season when he had the same problem he has now (but in the other knee).

Topspin Forehand
06-28-2010, 06:02 AM
Knees are a legit thing to worry about. Maybe he is overprotective. But those knees are his career. Sometimes they heel. Sometimes they don't. Not as certain as other parts of the body.

abraxas21
06-28-2010, 06:03 AM
Well...the fact is he's withdrawn from the Davis Cup. So obviously his knees truly need rest, there is nothing questionable about it. He continues to win because he doesn't need to be 100% to win slams. He's truly in pain when he plays though, it's not for 'image'. He tries to hide his injury whenever he can, and didn't tell anyone during this clay season when he had the same problem he has now (but in the other knee).

Well, as i said before, it's not that I think he's always 100%. I truly believe he fights through pains a lot but at the same time I think his injuries are overblown for a number of reasons. I said all this more carefully in the other post.
That said, he certainly doesn't hide his injuries. Otherwise he wouldn't ask for injury time outs, or he wouldn't mention them when he loses or he wouldn't withdraw from events at the last minute citing injury concerns or he wouldn't hit his kneew when on camera or he wouldn't...etc.

I also believe a big reason for asking an injury time-out against Petzschner wasn't his elbow but a psychological need to regroup mentally (and possibly even to distract his opponent which would be even worse). Many people thought this, including the journalists who interviewed Petzschner and even some of his fans. It was just that odd.

As for not playing the DC, I understand that he's simply trying to get in the best possible shape for the USO like Fed does. He's concerned about his knees, no doubt about it, but i'll repeat that his knees aren't nearly as bad as many people think.

Topspin Forehand
06-28-2010, 06:06 AM
Well, as i said before, it's not that I think he's always 100%. I truly believe he fights through pains a lot but at the same time I think his injuries are overblown for a number of reasons. I said all this more carefully in the other post.
That said, he certainly doesn't hide his injuries. Otherwise he wouldn't ask for injury time outs, or he wouldn't mention them when he loses or he wouldn't withdraw from events at the last minute citing injury concerns or he wouldn't hit his kneew when on camera or he wouldn't...etc.

I also believe a big reason for asking an injury time-out against Petzschner wasn't his elbow but a psychological need to regroup mentally (and possibly even to distract his opponent which would be even worse). Many people thought this, including the journalists who interviewed Petzschner and even some of his fans. It was just that odd.

As for not playing the DC, I understand that he's simply trying to get in the best possible shape for the USO like Fed does. He's concerned about his knees, no doubt about it, but i'll repeat that his knees aren't nearly as bad as many people think.
There was no extra time wasted with the check up of his elbow. Not an injury timeout. The thigh was though.

abraxas21
06-28-2010, 06:08 AM
There was no extra time wasted with the check up of his elbow. Not an injury timeout. The thigh was though.

ok.

NADALbULLS
06-28-2010, 06:18 AM
When I said he tries to hide his injury, I meant he doesn't tell the media about his injury (like after Monte Carlo this year, he didn't mention it, he said he was 100% at all times). Injury timeout is another deal, it would be impossible to hide that because he has to have it in order to withstand the injury during the match.

We keep referring to it as an injury, but its actually a condition - tendonitis. It is an ongoing condition. As I've said before, Venus Williams has had it since she was a teen, in her knees and wrists (so has Serena to a degree. Venus could barely jump to serve in 2001 Australian Open and lost to Hingis 6-1 6-1. Roddick has always had tendonitis too.

Bargearse
06-28-2010, 06:39 AM
The only chance PHM has is if Rafa withdraws from the tournament or retires from the match injured.

NADALbULLS
06-28-2010, 06:49 AM
The only chance PHM has is if Rafa withdraws from the tournament or retires from the match injured.

Well...

Q. How bad is your knee right now? You said you're scared. What are you scared of?

RAFAEL NADAL: My knee is like this. I don't know how bad is my knee. My knee, I can finish the match. We will see how is going the next day. But, you know, I am here to try my best and to try to keep in the tournament and playing well, no? I am not thinking about scared or retired or something like this. That's not going to happen.

barack
06-28-2010, 06:51 AM
PHM maybe take one set

ZakMcCrack
06-28-2010, 06:56 AM
Well I'm glad to inform you that Federer is no longer the player he once was. Soderling and Nadal are playing like the top 2 players now. Federer almost lost to Falla. I'm enjoying the present and don't care how the past was.

...as if that would change anything concerning your persona - you will still act like a dick all the time, I guess...but hey, aren't actually Murray and Soederling playing like the top 2 players right now?:wavey:

NADALbULLS
06-28-2010, 06:57 AM
^ Bannable?

Topspin Forehand
06-28-2010, 07:03 AM
^ Bannable?
Not really. He can think what he wants. I'm not too offended.

Bargearse
06-28-2010, 07:59 AM
Well...

I'm not trying to predict anything or jinx Nadal, really. If Nadal's knee(s), elbow, ankle... are/is bothering him, as long as he can stand up, he will still beat PHM, that's all.

Taniaaa
06-28-2010, 08:09 AM
Hopefully Paul :)

Aenea
06-28-2010, 08:32 AM
Being number 2 is not dominating :wavey: especially when you get almost all your points off of clay.

Of course it is :) being #2 for so many years means you are dominating everyone who is below you and that is the entire circuit apart from Fed. And when Rafa plays Fed we all know what the outcome usually is. So yes, Fed is above Rafa in GS won but Rafa is the one who dominates the circuit and Fed when they face each other. But it is OK with me if you don't acknowledge that. Keep counting Fed's Slams :wavey:

Rafa in straights.
PHM lacks Haase's fighting spirit, and being a true headcase, will surely be rattled even more than Petzschner if Rafa pulls one of his 'tricks' again. ;)

I disagree. PHM used to be a mental midget and mostly a choker but he seems to have grown some balls during the time he was injured. He fought Misha and won despite Misha leading 3-0 in the 5th. He also fought de Bakker and even won 2 TB. So I guess PHM has found some confidence and will fight today.

careergrandslam
06-28-2010, 08:59 AM
i fear for rafa this tournament.
seems eerily like australian open 2008 to me.
even though in aussie open 2008 he went into the semis without losing a set, he wasnt playing well and barely got over the line, then got badly beaten by tsonga in the semis.
he played PHM in that 2008 tournament aswell, PHM retired on that occasion.

rafa is squeaking by these matches but he better pick it up in the real business end of the tournament or else this could be another unhappy ending for him at the hands of either soderling or murray/tsonga.

the positive thing is that he was playing not very well in the french open and played his 2 best matches in the semis and finals.
so he didnt peak too early.
but this is grass and he has more threats on grass than on clay.

PHM pushed nadal to the very limit in the 2006 french open, with his 2-handed BH CC to rafa's FH.
rafa cannot afford to go another 5 sets because he must be a little tired and with his injury too.

i just dont get the confidence by his play this tournament, he seems vulnerable in every match.

Mimi
06-28-2010, 09:15 AM
:scared::bolt:

NADALbULLS
06-28-2010, 10:13 AM
People are so scared of Paul-Henri.

Mimi
06-28-2010, 10:27 AM
People are so scared of Paul-Henri.
no I am scaring of Rafa's old body, and in fact, I scared of Solderling more:secret:

toby1526
06-28-2010, 10:59 AM
Rafa in straight sets, this is PHM we are talking about! Nadal has a 9-0 head to head against him and he sucks anyway.

NADALbULLS
06-28-2010, 11:34 AM
Nadal owns everybody in this draw. Nadal leads Tsonga 5-1 (all on hardcourts), Nadal leads Soderling 5-2, Nadal leads Murray 7-3, Nadal leads Federer 14-7. Nadal has won his previous grass meeting with Soderling, Murray and Federer.

Daniel
06-28-2010, 12:59 PM
Mathieu in 4 sets

mcnasty
06-28-2010, 01:07 PM
if the match is cleanly played i give PHM a chance. if it gets at all rough and gritty...well you know

ZakMcCrack
06-28-2010, 01:12 PM
^ Bannable?

Hellfire and bloody damnation, what do you want? You should be called names alone because you don't have one...introducing NADALbulls: bendable? mhm....

Aenea
06-28-2010, 01:20 PM
if the match is cleanly played i give PHM a chance. if it gets at all rough and gritty...well you know

:lol:
is that Agassi in your avy?

mcnasty
06-28-2010, 01:25 PM
:lol:
is that Agassi in your avy?

hey don't knock it.