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Wimbledon R3 : Nadal def Petzschner 6-4, 4-6, 6-7, 6-2, 6-3

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Rafaspin
06-26-2010, 05:42 PM
Nadal looks vunerable. Things just aren't clicking for him. His serve, his groundstrokes, returning big serves, failing to convert BP's - he really is struggling to gain any momentum or rhythm in any part of his game.

Credit to Petzschner, he played the game of his life and was smashing aces and winners at will at times. Nadal is just so hard to beat over 5 sets. I hope Nadal wasn't feigning injuries to refocus himself though. :o

Enough grit by Nadal to get through the match and finish it well but if he played Soderling tonight he'd have lost in straight sets. Needs to find form - and find it fast and even if he does i don't know if he'll have enough in the tank to go all the way.

Johnny Groove
06-26-2010, 05:43 PM
Haters hate.

Players play.

Play on, playa.

Fedexex
06-26-2010, 05:43 PM
Cheater wins:lol:

Pet:sad:

tealeaves
06-26-2010, 05:43 PM
Pet :sad:

HKz
06-26-2010, 05:43 PM
What a fucking match.

Priam
06-26-2010, 05:44 PM
PHM next. LUCKY lucky dude.

Chiakifug
06-26-2010, 05:44 PM
Very dodgy tactics there by Nadal... never mind the on court coaching, taking time outs and then breaking right after them. He wont get far anyway.

habibko
06-26-2010, 05:44 PM
this match had everything you need to know about Nadal.

Billups85
06-26-2010, 05:44 PM
Vamos Rafa!!

00923
06-26-2010, 05:44 PM
Needs to find form - and find it fast

This.

djwebby
06-26-2010, 05:44 PM
The cheater will get what's coming to him anyway.

cloudeleven
06-26-2010, 05:44 PM
I guess NBC's on a 10 second delay or something. This thread was posted when it was still match point. Quick on the draw, aren't you? :lol:

viruzzz
06-26-2010, 05:44 PM
Whatever dude, but you have to admit that Rafa doesn't deserves it.

Start da Game
06-26-2010, 05:44 PM
this is spartaaa!!!!! what a fight!

TankingTheSet
06-26-2010, 05:44 PM
Petzschner was out of gas after three sets.

Fedicilous
06-26-2010, 05:45 PM
Nadal is going to win Wimbledon for sure. The only chance to crash him out is in the early rounds, when the grass is fresh and he is struggling.
He will play better from round to round.

rhinooooo
06-26-2010, 05:45 PM
Predictable

GasquetFan
06-26-2010, 05:45 PM
What a disgrace!!

PP's mind let him down but still that was just disgusting from Rafa. :o Blatent cheating.

solowyn
06-26-2010, 05:45 PM
Murray and Soderling are waiting, Rafa :yeah:

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-26-2010, 05:45 PM
next match rafa will be tired

Certinfy
06-26-2010, 05:45 PM
Nadal gets one warning and he makes a big deal about it :haha:

dombrfc
06-26-2010, 05:45 PM
No denying there was forms of cheating here. Well played nonetheless.

ShotmaKer
06-26-2010, 05:45 PM
Good fight Petzchi ! Congratz Rafa for coming through !

Wolfy
06-26-2010, 05:45 PM
Rafa never In doubt :angel:

henke007
06-26-2010, 05:45 PM
Doesn't look good at all for Nadull. Counting on mental midgets, fake injurys and coaching to survive BtB 5 setters. Bring on PHM and another one!!

This should be added, Petzh has played both doubles and mixed. Why the moron does that is beyond anyone??!!

Start da Game
06-26-2010, 05:45 PM
a slap to all the haters........

scarecrows
06-26-2010, 05:46 PM
phew, for a moment i thought that injuries got the better of him again

Björki
06-26-2010, 05:46 PM
:dance:

Johnny Groove
06-26-2010, 05:46 PM
Nadal does need to get his act together, though.

He's definitely ripe for the upset.

Priam
06-26-2010, 05:46 PM
It's that effing knee again (and the elbow).

Sterner tests await. He can't keep getting away with such a crap ROS.

Commander Data
06-26-2010, 05:46 PM
NID

Everytime Nadal is close to losing he calls for the trainer :lol:

Only to run around lik energizer bunny the next game...

Jomp1
06-26-2010, 05:46 PM
Rafa played every card available and barely beat him.

The Magician
06-26-2010, 05:46 PM
Let's see what Nadull did that's blatantly against the rules:

-On court coaching
-Fake injury timeouts to disrupt his opponent
-Time wasting between points
-Abuse of umpire

I'm sure I forgot a few :rolleyes:

FedFan
06-26-2010, 05:46 PM
First his arm was hurting, then his knee.

He does everything to win, everything to break the rhythm of his opponent.

His uncle Tony is also a phoney, coaching him during a match. It is not the first time he was caught doing so.

Very poor behaviour from him and his clan.

philosophicalarf
06-26-2010, 05:47 PM
phew, for a moment i thought that injuries got the better of him again

They did.

Oh, you were talking about Nadal? :-)

Shirogane
06-26-2010, 05:47 PM
phew, for a moment i thought that injuries got the better of him again

:lol:

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 05:47 PM
clay GOAT :worship: petz simply not a match for this GOAT in the mental department. the clay GOATs campaign may well end against soderling though.

samanosuke
06-26-2010, 05:47 PM
Nadal has called the trainer to insure himself if he lost

fran70
06-26-2010, 05:47 PM
Do you usually post before a match is over??? ;) It was a great match for Petz. Much more than I could have expected in advance. Nadal overcame the 3rd rival which potentially could had put him out of the tournament. I hate the fact that he pretends an injury every time that he feels quite in danger in a match... Congratulations for him though...

HKz
06-26-2010, 05:47 PM
Well PHM better be ready. At least PHM has a consistent 2-handed backhand.

straitup
06-26-2010, 05:47 PM
Come on PHM, knock him out! I never understood why Petzschner got so much praise on here before, but I enjoyed that match and thought he played well. Some gamesmanship for sure by both players, started by Rafa.

tyruk14
06-26-2010, 05:47 PM
Soderling and Murray will be too much for Nadal if he stays in such form, and Federer isn't exactly playing great, though things may improve.

So I think we could have a new champion at SW19 this year.

Corey Feldman
06-26-2010, 05:48 PM
Petz with his classic and expected choke :lol:

if ppl didnt know already what a desperate cheat Nadal is and always has been, they know now

Soderling last year, Murray AO, punching his knee's v Roddick in Miami

desperation face turns to smiling face when he wins of course

went mental when he was found out for coaching as well, pure class.

Certinfy
06-26-2010, 05:48 PM
...and people call Djokovic a bigger faker than Nadal? :haha:

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 05:48 PM
NID

Everytime Nadal is close to losing he calls for the trainer :lol:

Only to run around lik energizer bunny the next game...

this is true lol. what is also funny is that his clown opponents keep losing because of it. they should be prepared for that shit :o

GasquetFan
06-26-2010, 05:49 PM
"No, is not a big problem" - Rafael Nadal, 26th June 2010

Then why exactly did you need the trainer about 25 times?

Mechlan
06-26-2010, 05:49 PM
Great play from Petzschner in the second and third sets. Clinic in how to play Nadal. Kind of ran out of gas and started playing the percentages after, pretty routine for Nadal in the end.

The Magician
06-26-2010, 05:49 PM
Nadull: "I change the strategy in the 4th." That's one way to say it :haha:

Allegretto
06-26-2010, 05:50 PM
http://cdn3.ioffer.com/img/wantad/883/013/34124221_99ace5dd88.jpg

PiggyGotRoasted
06-26-2010, 05:50 PM
I hope more umpires pick up on his time wasting and toni coaching him

Chiakifug
06-26-2010, 05:50 PM
At least his fans have yet another excuse when he loses.

DrJules
06-26-2010, 05:50 PM
Nadal does need to get his act together, though.

He's definitely ripe for the upset.

Soderling and Murray have nothing to fear from anything Nadal has produced so far, but expect him to improve.

AndiMD
06-26-2010, 05:50 PM
Fucking great game from both...best of the tournament...Nadal shows his mental strength, but played pretty well, too. Will hard to beat at this tourney.

Picasso with great shots. Was a pleasure to watch.

Congrats to Rafa.

Acer
06-26-2010, 05:50 PM
It's great for tennis having a cheater who's only good on one surface at number one.

tennisfan856
06-26-2010, 05:50 PM
toad must dispose of this cheat

elessar
06-26-2010, 05:50 PM
knee>>>Rafa>>>elbow+thigh :sad:

I've watched the last 2 sets and I still can't figure out how Petzschner made it that close, except that Rafa's ROS is well below standard.

Johnny Groove
06-26-2010, 05:51 PM
Yes, yes, Nadal is a terrible person, a cheater, a fake, Satan in Nike clothing :zzz:

Buddy
06-26-2010, 05:51 PM
Petz should not have come to the net twice on that 8th game final set...:rolleyes:


But I was impressed with Petz though...:D


Nadal did save some really great shots though...

AndiMD
06-26-2010, 05:51 PM
Soderling and Murray have nothing to fear from anything Nadal has produced so far, but expect him to improve.
Murray, haha, it's a joke.

The Magician
06-26-2010, 05:52 PM
I guess this is for the best so Soderking will destroy Nadull and get revenge for the FO :yeah: Still disappointing Picasso lost it mentally and completely game up at the end there :o

Johnny Groove
06-26-2010, 05:52 PM
Soderling and Murray have nothing to fear from anything Nadal has produced so far, but expect him to improve.

Agreed.

I'm not even looking past PHM.

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 05:52 PM
What a warrior this Nadal is. Able to win on one leg. Hope he'll be alright for next match. Just can't catch any breaks with this nightmare schedule. :(

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 05:52 PM
it has to be said nadal moved awfully well for one fh pass after that injury. he was like flash :eek:

SerenaFederer
06-26-2010, 05:52 PM
wow rafa that was gamesmanship on your part....clean it up plz :o

GasquetFan
06-26-2010, 05:53 PM
He had to go to all kinds of lengths today to get past Petzschner. Imagine if he plays Soderling. :lol:

Helevorn
06-26-2010, 05:53 PM
nadal's just gonna lose in straights against soderling

Priam
06-26-2010, 05:53 PM
Love or hate him, he's one tactically astute player. Use everything within the rules to your advantage. To hell with the umpire, the opponent, and the fans if you want to win.

shadows
06-26-2010, 05:53 PM
Tuned in for my first whole match since Mahut/Isner and was disappointed to see such blatant gamesmanship in the middle of what was an otherwise good contest. Rafa needs to improve, though he's only got PHM next so he can take his time.

The Magician
06-26-2010, 05:54 PM
It's great for tennis having a cheater who's only good on one surface at number one.

Seriously we've gone from a candidate for GOAT who plays a beautiful all court game, loves the media spotlight and speaks 3 languages, fair player who is loved by the majority of the tour, to this :o The future of tennis is looking bright :rolleyes::sad:

Corey Feldman
06-26-2010, 05:54 PM
"No, is not a big problem" - Rafael Nadal, 26th June 2010

Then why exactly did you need the trainer about 25 times? exactly what i was asking myself when he was saying that to BBC, smiling and laughing away with the humble act :lol:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
06-26-2010, 05:54 PM
:rolleyes: Annoying result.

TennisAddicted
06-26-2010, 05:54 PM
Clowns gonna hate! So many in this thread... :)))))))))
NADALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
IN YOUR F'ING FACE CLOWNS!

Manequin75
06-26-2010, 05:54 PM
Nadal is going to win Wimbledon for sure. The only chance to crash him out is in the early rounds, when the grass is fresh and he is struggling.
He will play better from round to round.

what happens when the grass is not fresh anymore? How does the surface change? and when does this change occur before his QF on wednesday with sod or after?

any website where i can track the freshness of the grass?

JerryCRO
06-26-2010, 05:54 PM
Well this 2 matches are totally what nadal needed. He needs to find how to return and that's the biggest problem because he stands maybe 1 meter behind baseline and on clay it was 2.5-3 meters and he needs time to settle to grass. Mathieu isn't such a big server and nadal absolutely needs at least one more match to get it working. And then the biggest test, Soderling

elessar
06-26-2010, 05:55 PM
I'm not even looking past PHM.
:lol:


He's been mightily impressive this year :scared:

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 05:55 PM
Oh look at the haters. They got their hopes up and Nadal crushes them. :lol:

TennisAddicted
06-26-2010, 05:56 PM
Oh look at the haters. They got their hopes up and Nadal crushes them. :lol:

:lol:

malisha
06-26-2010, 05:56 PM
Yes, yes, Nadal is a terrible person, a cheater, a fake, Satan in Nike clothing :zzz:

no not really

only a cheater

Commander Data
06-26-2010, 05:56 PM
What a warrior this Nadal is. Able to win on one leg. (

It is that kind of attitude from the Rafatards to disgusts me. At least Fed has the class to lose without calling for the trainer every single time he is in trouble. :o

docking34
06-26-2010, 05:56 PM
petz deserved this win. DAMMNIT!

nsidhan
06-26-2010, 05:56 PM
Rafa what a cheater. Did it against Fed in Hamburg'08 and does it again. He might win Wimbledon this year but will always go down as a cheat for who is following. Disgraceful.

tennisfan856
06-26-2010, 05:57 PM
Don't worry, be patient. I'll enjoy the 6-2 scorelines from Soderling more

malisha
06-26-2010, 05:57 PM
good comeback for Nadal though

Petzsch just ran out of gas..i think Nadal wolud get it done even without the fake MTO

Start da Game
06-26-2010, 05:57 PM
Oh look at the haters. They got their hopes up and Nadal crushes them. :lol:

supreme joy watching nadal tease all these buffoons and make them weep at the end........go rafa!

The Magician
06-26-2010, 05:57 PM
Think about the balls it took to default Mcenroe at the 1990 AO. Nadull breaks and bends the rules as much as he wants and doesn't even get a point penalty :rolleyes: ATP/ITF are a joke.

Manequin75
06-26-2010, 05:57 PM
Nadal gets one warning and he makes a big deal about it :haha:

because nadal wasnt being coached thats why nadal took an issue with it.

when nadal is given warnings for too much time between points he never argues this much - he knows he is at fault.

here there was nothing between rafa and toni that we dont see in any other match. Rafa always looks at his box. Nothing new. I am sure Rafa and Toni can even communicate just with eyes now lol...no story here

Rafaspin
06-26-2010, 05:58 PM
Sheesh, Nadal has direct links to Hitler or something?

Haters galore.

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 05:58 PM
It is that kind of attitude from the Rafatards to disgusts me. At least Fed has the class to lose without calling for the trainer every single time he is in trouble. :o
That's because Fed doesn't have chronic tendinitis. Flares up in long matches.

Greenday
06-26-2010, 05:58 PM
This match reminded me why I struggle to warm up to Rafa depsite some efforts.....on-court coaching...significantly slowing the game.....using the system to his maximum advantage.......
celebrating the points on opponents face...

The same posters here who are saying this is spartan effort..will say the other guy choked and bended over if fed pulled out a 5 set win..Pet put in a good effort.....so now going by the same logic should we call rafa nadal as the luckiest player alive...!.

DrJules
06-26-2010, 05:58 PM
Rafa what a cheater. Did it against Fed in Hamburg'08 and does it again. He might win Wimbledon this year but will always go down as a cheat for who is following. Disgraceful.

It is within the rules, but bent to the extreme.

FedFan
06-26-2010, 05:58 PM
exactly what i was asking myself when he was saying that to BBC, smiling and laughing away with the humble act :lol:

Because he expects himself to win the next matches and don't want to be asked about his injuries if he succeeds.

If not then he will moan about his knee, his arm .......to be continued. ;)

Remember against Isotomin. He used the same gamesmanship, when he lost the second set, he called fo the trainer. :rolleyes:

moonxyz
06-26-2010, 05:58 PM
That injury time was a b*tch move...

Hope Soderling crushes him.. I used to like him but I see his limitations.

I dislike Roger cause he is pompous IMo but at least he is more ethical then Rafa.

JMG
06-26-2010, 05:59 PM
Credit to Petzschner, he played the game of his life

Don't be disrespectful, you have barely seen him play.

I hope he can at least win the doubles today with badass Melzer. If they win today, they are faves to make the semifinal.

Aenea
06-26-2010, 05:59 PM
Nadal looks vunerable. Things just aren't clicking for him. His serve, his groundstrokes, returning big serves, failing to convert BP's - he really is struggling to gain any momentum or rhythm in any part of his game.
True this. Going 5 sets with Haase was already an alarming sign so I expected a difficult match today. But the problem is Rafa didn't look sharp in his last 2 matches, lack of focus, and no rhythm. I am not at easy for his next matches but hoping he improves.

guga2120
06-26-2010, 05:59 PM
Rafa's return is such sh!t right now. I can not believe they threw that on court coaching thing at him, ridiculous. If his knee is hurt he may not even make it to Murray.

Priam
06-26-2010, 05:59 PM
IMO whether intentionally coaching or not, Toni should just shut up during the match.

scarecrows
06-26-2010, 05:59 PM
That's because Fed doesn't have chronic tendinitis.

in the elbow and thigh muscles?

The Magician
06-26-2010, 06:00 PM
because nadal wasnt being coached thats why nadal took an issue with it.

when nadal is given warnings for too much time between points he never argues this much - he knows he is at fault.

here there was nothing between rafa and toni that we dont see in any other match. Rafa always looks at his box. Nothing new. I am sure Rafa and Toni can even communicate just with eyes now lol...no story here

You're right about that, we do see it every match. So what, should everyone assume Nadal and Tony are not talking when they look at each other and talk? That's blatant cheating, come on :o

dav abu
06-26-2010, 06:00 PM
The immaturity by the 'haters' (on both sides is quite ridiculous). Loved watching that match and seeing Rafa get through and then a treat from the BBC showing an interview with Federer. We are blessed to have both players in the sport and two absolute gentlemen.

Commander Data
06-26-2010, 06:00 PM
That's because Fed doesn't have chronic tendinitis. Flares up in long matches.

Yeah, yeah.. and the tendinitis always turns up when he is in trouble, how convenient...

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 06:00 PM
in the elbow and thigh muscles?
Nadal was stretching out that knee. I don't think any medical timeout can help chronic tendinitis.

Corey Feldman
06-26-2010, 06:00 PM
Nadal's whole attitude stinks in this tournament, the furrowed how desperate am i to win brow face, the shouting, over celebrating, time wasting, coaching, faking

and had it been the King of Spain on Thursday.. he would have met him

DrJules
06-26-2010, 06:01 PM
Love or hate him, he's one tactically astute player. Use everything within the rules to your advantage. To hell with the umpire, the opponent, and the fans if you want to win.

This match reminded me why I struggle to warm up to Rafa depsite some efforts.....on-court coaching...significantly slowing the game.....using the system to his maximum advantage.......
celebrating the points on opponents face...

The same posters here who are saying this is spartan effort..will say the other guy choked and bended over if fed pulled out a 5 set win..Pet put in a good effort.....so now going by the same logic should we call rafa nadal as the luckiest player alive...!.

Large elements of the above have some truth.

brent-o
06-26-2010, 06:01 PM
Let's see what Nadull did that's blatantly against the rules:

-On court coaching
-Fake injury timeouts to disrupt his opponent
-Time wasting between points
-Abuse of umpire

I'm sure I forgot a few :rolleyes:

You live to hate, don't you? I wonder if you even like tennis at all, because your posts in every thread are you bitching about Nadal. At a certain point, it turns from disliking him to outright obsession. Say something positive, useful, or thoughtful maybe? Even if it's not about Nadal.

elessar
06-26-2010, 06:01 PM
Rafa's return is such sh!t right now. I can not believe they threw that on court coaching thing at him, ridiculous. If his knee is hurt he may not even make it to Murray.
Not the knee (that I know of), just the thigh and the elbow. But who needs them when you play tennis :sport:

Rafaspin
06-26-2010, 06:02 PM
Don't be disrespectful, you have barely seen him play.

I hope he can at least win the doubles today with badass Melzer. If they win today, they are faves to make the semifinal.

If he's played any better than he did from Game 2 of the first set until the end of the 3rd set than please tell us the date, event and opponent.

Aenea
06-26-2010, 06:02 PM
Oh look at the haters. They got their hopes up and Nadal crushes them. :lol:

:lol:

brent-o
06-26-2010, 06:02 PM
Clutch play in the last few sets when he was OBVIOUSLY struggling physically. Fake injury timeout my ass. He couldn't even bend down to some low balls.

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 06:03 PM
Sheesh, Nadal has direct links to Hitler or something?

Haters galore.

welcome to MTF :shrug::D

guga2120
06-26-2010, 06:04 PM
Not the knee (that I know of), just the thigh and the elbow. But who needs them when you play tennis :sport:

As long as its not that right knee, i still think he gets to sf, even with his great return of serve right now.

NADALbULLS
06-26-2010, 06:04 PM
Nadal is serving better in this Wimbledon than he has ever served in his life!

holagirl56
06-26-2010, 06:04 PM
Nadal was stretching out that knee. I don't think any medical timeout can help chronic tendinitis.

Doesn't this get to the crux of the matter? Why even take a timeout then?

NADALbULLS
06-26-2010, 06:05 PM
The fact Nadal got 7 times more breakpoints than his opponent shows how difficult it is to break Nadal's serve (and this is despite Petz serving brilliantly).

elessar
06-26-2010, 06:05 PM
This thread is hilarious, haters seething at the mouth just like after the Falla debacle :lol:

Clutch play in the last few sets when he was OBVIOUSLY struggling physically. Fake injury timeout my ass. He couldn't even bend down to some low balls.
Was that before or after he hit all those 90+mph FH winners on the run?

Commander Data
06-26-2010, 06:05 PM
I never doubted that Nadal would take the 5th tough. If it gets close Nadal will prevail, always, he is just sooo clutch.

FedEXpress91
06-26-2010, 06:06 PM
Clutch play in the last few sets when he was OBVIOUSLY struggling physically. Fake injury timeout my ass. He couldn't even bend down to some low balls.

oh right and that's why the game right after his injury timeout he's able to run like a gazelle and chase down a drop shot that's almost 5 feet away from the court and hit it back cross-court as a 86 mph winner, yeah some real physical struggle :rolleyes:

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 06:06 PM
Nadal is serving better in this Wimbledon than he has ever served in his life!
2008 Wimbledon and 2008 Queens I think Nadal served a little better. But just unlucky to play such big servers and returners who are perfectly suited to grass tennis. Haase and Petzschner.

Persimmon
06-26-2010, 06:06 PM
playa.

Well, he certainly can be a playa. Tapped Shakira's ass as soon as he had the chance, I'm sure.:wavey:

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 06:06 PM
get over it haters nadal won within the rules of the game. if you want someone to hate then hate petz. he is the one who blew it. or hate the rule makers for that matter.

Rafaspin
06-26-2010, 06:07 PM
welcome to MTF :shrug::D


I can see i'll have fun. The immaturity boggles the mind. I dislike Murray, but i'll never call him Mugray or slam his ability or effort.

I just never found it either interesting or plausible to hate on any Pro with immature rubbish...

brent-o
06-26-2010, 06:07 PM
This thread is hilarious, haters seething at the mouth just like after the Falla debacle :lol:


Was that before or after he hit all those 90+mph FH winners on the run?

It's called digging in. But why try to change your mind? You call it cheating, I see the truth. What's to argue?

NADALbULLS
06-26-2010, 06:07 PM
When they were 1 set all I was praying for Nadal to lose the 3rd set so he could come back like in the 2nd round, these types of matches are way better than the easy matches.

The Magician
06-26-2010, 06:07 PM
welcome to MTF :shrug::D

:haha: you used to be the biggest Nadal hater on these forums. What happen did you get your meds? :wavey:

ShotmaKer
06-26-2010, 06:08 PM
Well, he certainly can be a playa. Tapped Shakira's ass as soon as he had the chance, I'm sure.:wavey:

who would blame him for that ? :)

NADALbULLS
06-26-2010, 06:08 PM
The umpire should be fired for targeting Nadal for coaching, Nadal should get the loser fired.

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 06:08 PM
Doesn't this get to the crux of the matter? Why even take a timeout then?
The thigh is connected to the knee right? Maybe the sore thigh is treatable and the knee isn't.

samanosuke
06-26-2010, 06:08 PM
At the beginning I just didn't like Nadal as a person and his style of play . But with the time he became disgusting with his falsity and faking . Now I just fell sadness for him , It isn't easy to act someone and be someone other , we all are too strict to him , we all must understand when someone is acting somebody else , at some stage he must show to us his true face and true personality , and than we over reacting instead try to help him . Poor guy , he needs our help not hating

malisha
06-26-2010, 06:08 PM
Nadal is serving better in this Wimbledon than he has ever served in his life!

Haase and Petzschner are not the best returners out there though

FedEXpress91
06-26-2010, 06:09 PM
It's called digging in. But why try to change your mind? You call it cheating, I see the truth. What's to argue?

So answer me this when after that 3rd set nadal had a chance to call the trainer he didn't heck he could oh called the trainer again right before his own service game but he didn't, no he waited until before petchnerz service game and the whole time he was just sitting there smiling and talking to the trainer, if he was actually injured shouldn't he actually show some concern?

NADALbULLS
06-26-2010, 06:10 PM
This is pretty bad sportsmanship from a lot of posters here for accusing Nadal of faking an injury when you have no idea what is going on after all these months of domination.

brent-o
06-26-2010, 06:10 PM
At the beginning I just didn't like Nadal as a person and his style of play . But with the time he became disgusting with his falsity and faking . Now I just fell sadness for him , It isn't easy to act someone and be someone other , we all are too strict to him , we all must understand when someone is acting somebody else , at some stage he must show to us his true face and true personality , and than we over reacting instead try to help him . Poor guy , he needs our help not hating

Lol that's the spirit. Wanna stage an ass-picking intervention?

ShotmaKer
06-26-2010, 06:10 PM
I can see i'll have fun. The immaturity boggles the mind. I dislike Murray, but i'll never call him Mugray or slam his ability or effort.

I just never found it either interesting or plausible to hate on any Pro with immature rubbish...

that's MTF for you. Nadal is coming back strong so all the tards, and the haters, are out. it's the same with any top player though.

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 06:11 PM
This is pretty bad sportsmanship from a lot of posters here for accusing Nadal of faking an injury when you have no idea what is going on after all these months of domination.
lol They are a little psychotic with their obsession with hating Nadal.

NADALbULLS
06-26-2010, 06:11 PM
So answer me this when after that 3rd set nadal had a chance to call the trainer he didn't heck he could oh called the trainer again right before his own service game but he didn't, no he waited until before petchnerz service game and the whole time he was just sitting there smiling and talking to the trainer, if he was actually injured shouldn't he actually show some concern?

He wasn't smiling anymore than usual, he just is talking in a proper manner to the trainer. I think people are making up things now because they want Nadal to be a faker.

GasquetFan
06-26-2010, 06:12 PM
At the beginning I just didn't like Nadal as a person and his style of play . But with the time he became disgusting with his falsity and faking . Now I just fell sadness for him , It isn't easy to act someone and be someone other , we all are too strict to him , we all must understand when someone is acting somebody else , at some stage he must show to us his true face and true personality , and than we over reacting instead try to help him . Poor guy , he needs our help not hating


bawPIjdGCKo

Look at me
You may think you see
Who I really am
But you’ll never know me
Every day, its as if I play a part
Now I see
If I wear a mask
I can fool the world
But I can not fool
My heart
Who is that girl I see
Staring straight back at me?
When will my reflection show
Who I am inside?
I am now
In a world where I have to
Hide my heart
And what I believe in
But somehow
I will show the world
What’s inside my heart
And be loved for who I am
Who is that girl I see
Staring straight back at me?
Why is my reflection
Someone I don’t know?
Must I pretend that i’m
Someone else for all time?
When will my reflection show
Who I am inside?
There’s a heart that must
Be free to fly
That burns with a need
To know the reason why
Why must we all conceal
What we think
How we feel
Must there be a secret me
I’m forced to hide?
I won’t pretend that i’m
Someone else
For all time
When will my reflections show
Who I am inside?
When will my reflections show
Who I am inside?

NADALbULLS
06-26-2010, 06:12 PM
lol They are a little psychotic with their obsession with hating Nadal.

Yeah bigtime, WOW they just showed a closeup of a girls boobs during the Murray Simon match! They were fully falling out of her pink top with the bras.

PiggyGotRoasted
06-26-2010, 06:13 PM
At the beginning I just didn't like Nadal as a person and his style of play . But with the time he became disgusting with his falsity and faking . Now I just fell sadness for him , It isn't easy to act someone and be someone other , we all are too strict to him , we all must understand when someone is acting somebody else , at some stage he must show to us his true face and true personality , and than we over reacting instead try to help him . Poor guy , he needs our help not hating

I agree, nadal needs to have help to stop him before its too late and he shows his real personality to the public media which kiss his arse all the time and he cant hide any more.

Mjau!
06-26-2010, 06:13 PM
Nadal might not be 100%, but he's still abusing the medical time out rule imo. Getting treatment for a leg "injury" when you're running like that is very dodgy if I may say so.

Rafa said his physical health is "not a problem". The follow up question should have been, "Do you think it's fair to let your opponent wait for 4-5 minutes before serving while you get a massage for something that is "not a problem"?

Then there's the coaching and time wasting... It's ridiculous that he has the nerve to get upset the few times an umpire actually does his job and gives Nadal a well-deserved warning...

I sure hope Robin gets the chance to beat this awful sportsman.

malisha
06-26-2010, 06:13 PM
thats cheating and it has been done many times by top playes

what surprised me the most here that i didnt think Nadal needed it anyway...Petzsch was barely holding at the start of the fourth set and was clearly dominated in almost every rally...so i wonder why Nadal pulled that old trick?

Persimmon
06-26-2010, 06:14 PM
Nadal is serving better in this Wimbledon than he has ever served in his life!

Nice primo weed you are smoking there.:smoke:

Shirogane
06-26-2010, 06:14 PM
Unexpected shady tactics from Rafa. Disappointing.

Unexpected, really?

ShotmaKer
06-26-2010, 06:14 PM
lol They are a little psychotic with their obsession with hating Nadal.

you on the other hand are doing a great job hating on Federer :yeah:

NADALbULLS
06-26-2010, 06:15 PM
thats cheating and it has been done many times by top playes

what surprised me the most here that i didnt think Nadal needed it anyway...Petzsch was barely holding at the start of the fourth set and was clearly dominated in almost every rally...so i wonder why Nadal pulled that old trick?

How would you even know what Nadal was feeling though, this talk is pure fiction unless proven.

Manequin75
06-26-2010, 06:15 PM
look guys iM the most objective here. (see my signature) I love bith rafa and fed to death. SO before the rafa and fed tards abuse each other to death let me give you my objective and most balanced thoughts:

1) Rafa's knees/arm were sore or hurting because of overuse - not because of injury. He is not used to serving this hard and he has had some long matches now. Sure the trainer was not necessary. But rafa knows the rules and some massage on an over used body part feels good. Rafa often calls trainers during long matches. You expect that from him. Just like all his rituals. I wouldnt accuse him though of trying to disrupt his opponent. Nobody knows what a little breather there could have done for Phillip. Phillip was tired too and his game was showing cracks beginning the fourth set.

So to summarize " Rafa called the trainer for his own comfort - for massaging an overused part and not to knock phillips concentration. Is that cheating? Well that is very subjective and can never be determined who really needs what when and where. There are some ruled laid down and you abide with them and its all good. Rafa was down 2-1 sets with Haase but he didnt call the trainer. So its not a trend"

2) Phillip did something similar. He got a good massage and stretch and mentally if he thought rafa was resorting to gamesmanship he gave it back to rafa. So psychologically he felt he was even now.

3) Coaching - nothing out of the ordinary which I havent seen between rafa and toni. Rafa always looks at his camp - winning or losing. Easy match or tough match. He hits a bad shot he looks at his box. A good shot and he still looks and often I see him blabbering something in spanish. I have seen this with most other players too. Fed is an exception but most of the other people are always in touch with their coaches throughout the match. If this is a problem maybe the ATP can dia=sllow coaches to matches. They can see it on TV.


So I wouldnt use cheater blah lah blah bs here. ATleast think before you guys post. Half of the posts are nonsense and the other half are responding to those nonsense with nonsense square.

Peace...

Book 4th of July - Rafito and Feddie playing the WIMBLEDON FINALS 2010.

VAMOS & ALLEZ !!!!

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 06:15 PM
I can see i'll have fun. The immaturity boggles the mind. I dislike Murray, but i'll never call him Mugray or slam his ability or effort.

I just never found it either interesting or plausible to hate on any Pro with immature rubbish...

well there is a lot of that around here for sure, but you also laugh a lot. i dont like murray either but like you said its not worth it to hate on people like that. i used to do this kind of thing to nadal just cos his tards here pissed me off so much but its more fun liking him. did you know murray also gets called 'muggay'? :lol: :o

:haha: you used to be the biggest Nadal hater on these forums. What happen did you get your meds? :wavey:

i never hated nadal. i hated his tards. now i just cant care anymore :shrug:

mcnasty
06-26-2010, 06:15 PM
rough day for nadal. i hope he makes it to square off against soderling.

Ben.
06-26-2010, 06:17 PM
Look, haters are going to hate no matter what. I hear all this about Rafa cheating all the time, etc. Ok, he takes his time between points, everyone knows it, he has always done it, he sometimes gets a warning and speeds up. It's a non issue now.

As for the injury time outs and retirements; I have never felt like he has taken one in an attempt to gain an edge in a match. I've always thought this was haters clutching at straws. They all conveniently forget the third set against Murray in Rotterdam, where he hobbled around to allow Murray to close it out. However, today was undoubtedly suspect. Did he feel something? No one will ever know. Did he gain an edge? No one will ever know. But it's questonable for sure, what with one minute waving the trainer away then calling him.

Either way, he is not techinically breaking any rules, perhaps bending them if you believe that he was fine. Anyway, it isn't right to for everyone to cry cheater, etc when this goes on all of the time from many many players. I was glad Rafa won, whether he used the timeout to gain an edge or not. I don't condone it, as I never have with any other player, but the fact is it goes on all of the time. You can't pick and choose when it's an issue and when it is not. If the rules do not change then it will be a part of the game. If I was in the same situation, and needed time to compose myself during a match, and there was a perfectly legal opportunity to do so, I can't honestly say I would not take it, and I'm sure that goes for the majority of people here.

malisha
06-26-2010, 06:18 PM
How would you even know what Nadal was feeling though, this talk is pure fiction unless proven.

i do not need to prove it im not fucking Columbo

ive seen this too many times champ...its allowed and legit

brent-o
06-26-2010, 06:20 PM
That on-court coaching rule really annoys me. I couldn't tell if Nadal was really doing it or not, but I think it's such a dumb rule in tennis.

solowyn
06-26-2010, 06:20 PM
Oh look at the haters. They got their hopes up and Nadal crushes them. :lol:
Rafa was not very endearing today, even to an impartial tennis fan :yeah:

elessar
06-26-2010, 06:22 PM
I love all those discussions about bending the rules instead of breaking them. Where exactly in the rules does it say you can call the trainer, when you're not injured, to break your opponent's rhythym?

We'll never know how hurt Rafa actually was but it's ridiculous to say it would be withing the rules to do it.

brent-o
06-26-2010, 06:23 PM
look guys iM the most objective here. (see my signature) I love bith rafa and fed to death. SO before the rafa and fed tards abuse each other to death let me give you my objective and most balanced thoughts:

1) Rafa's knees/arm were sore or hurting because of overuse - not because of injury. He is not used to serving this hard and he has had some long matches now. Sure the trainer was not necessary. But rafa knows the rules and some massage on an over used body part feels good. Rafa often calls trainers during long matches. You expect that from him. Just like all his rituals. I wouldnt accuse him though of trying to disrupt his opponent. Nobody knows what a little breather there could have done for Phillip. Phillip was tired too and his game was showing cracks beginning the fourth set.

So to summarize " Rafa called the trainer for his own comfort - for massaging an overused part and not to knock phillips concentration. Is that cheating? Well that is very subjective and can never be determined who really needs what when and where. There are some ruled laid down and you abide with them and its all good. Rafa was down 2-1 sets with Haase but he didnt call the trainer. So its not a trend"

2) Phillip did something similar. He got a good massage and stretch and mentally if he thought rafa was resorting to gamesmanship he gave it back to rafa. So psychologically he felt he was even now.

3) Coaching - nothing out of the ordinary which I havent seen between rafa and toni. Rafa always looks at his camp - winning or losing. Easy match or tough match. He hits a bad shot he looks at his box. A good shot and he still looks and often I see him blabbering something in spanish. I have seen this with most other players too. Fed is an exception but most of the other people are always in touch with their coaches throughout the match. If this is a problem maybe the ATP can dia=sllow coaches to matches. They can see it on TV.


So I wouldnt use cheater blah lah blah bs here. ATleast think before you guys post. Half of the posts are nonsense and the other half are responding to those nonsense with nonsense square.

Peace...

Book 4th of July - Rafito and Feddie playing the WIMBLEDON FINALS 2010.

VAMOS & ALLEZ !!!!

Very fair and reasonable post. Thanks for sharing. It's refreshing to see a post without the words 'Nadull' or 'mug'

Manequin75
06-26-2010, 06:24 PM
Look, haters are going to hate no matter what. I hear all this about Rafa cheating all the time, etc. Ok, he takes his time between points, everyone knows it, he has always done it, he sometimes gets a warning and speeds up. It's a non issue now.

As for the injury time outs and retirements; I have never felt like he has taken one in an attempt to gain an edge in a match. I've always thought this was haters clutching at straws. They all conveniently forget the third set against Murray in Rotterdam, where he hobbled around to allow Murray to close it out. However, today was undoubtedly suspect. Did he feel something? No one will ever know. Did he gain an edge? No one will ever know. But it's questonable for sure, what with one minute waving the trainer away then calling him.

Either way, he is not techinically breaking any rules, perhaps bending them if you believe that he was fine. Anyway, it isn't right to for everyone to cry cheater, etc when this goes on all of the time from many many players. I was glad Rafa won, whether he used the timeout to gain an edge or not. I don't condone it, as I never have with any other player, but the fact is it goes on all of the time. You can't pick and choose when it's an issue and when it is not. If the rules do not change then it will be a part of the game. If I was in the same situation, and needed time to compose myself during a match, and there was a perfectly legal opportunity to do so, I can't honestly say I would not take it, and I'm sure that goes for the majority of people here.



among loads of nonsense posted here I am shocked that someone here actually makes sense and thinks rationally. WHat are you doing here dude? Go maybe do something where you could be helpful to the society. After all how many balanced individuals does this world have...

allpro
06-26-2010, 06:24 PM
:worship: nadal is the zen master of psychological warfare :worship:

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 06:25 PM
Rafa was not very endearing today, even to an impartial tennis fan :yeah:
He is never endearing to the haters. They will grasp at straws if needed to prove their point. Just assuming he wasn't injured is pathetic. It was a long and physical match and the grass is not too friendly due to the lack of traction. Nadal got injured here the last 3 times he play here and got hurt in Queens as well.

malisha
06-26-2010, 06:25 PM
1) Rafa's knees/arm were sore or hurting because of overuse - not because of injury. He is not used to serving this hard and he has had some long matches now. Sure the trainer was not necessary. But rafa knows the rules and some massage on an over used body part feels good. Rafa often calls trainers during long matches. You expect that from him. Just like all his rituals. I wouldnt accuse him though of trying to disrupt his opponent. Nobody knows what a little breather there could have done for Phillip. Phillip was tired too and his game was showing cracks beginning the fourth set.

So to summarize " Rafa called the trainer for his own comfort - for massaging an overused part and not to knock phillips concentration. Is that cheating? Well that is very subjective and can never be determined who really needs what when and where. There are some ruled laid down and you abide with them and its all good. Rafa was down 2-1 sets with Haase but he didnt call the trainer. So its not a trend"

good post
massage definetly feels good and the 3 minutes of focus definetly helps against a fruitcake like Petzsch

i wolud do the same thing...chill and relax a little bit and then see if the other guy lost momentum....if not so what but sometimes mugs implode after it and it makes this move very smart...all honour in this

Corey Feldman
06-26-2010, 06:26 PM
its not only about Nadal breaking his opponent's rhythm but he is puting out a pathetic oh i'm hurt, i'm gonna lose for sure now because i'm injured vibe

:worship: nadal is the zen master of cheating & excuse makingFixed.

moon language
06-26-2010, 06:26 PM
I've never seen this many complaints for other injury timeouts when the player isn't clearly limping or completely disabled. This is MTF though so I shouldn't be surprised.

Also about the coaching I don't recall any of these people complaining during the French Open when Soderling walked right up to Norman at the side of the court after losing a point and had a conversation with him.

malisha
06-26-2010, 06:27 PM
its not only about Nadal breaking his opponent's rhythm but he is puting out a pathetic oh i'm hurt, i'm gonna lose for sure now because i'm injured vibe

same as Del Potro

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 06:27 PM
I can see i'll have fun. The immaturity boggles the mind. I dislike Murray, but i'll never call him Mugray or slam his ability or effort.

I just never found it either interesting or plausible to hate on any Pro with immature rubbish...

just so you dont get confused. i may call some players clowns or whatever but thats usually when they deserve it. you wont see me disrespecting the GOAT or the clay GOAT though. for me the sport is about those two.

paseo
06-26-2010, 06:28 PM
this is true lol. what is also funny is that his clown opponents keep losing because of it. they should be prepared for that shit :o

Fed is one of them, you know? :D

True this. Going 5 sets with Haase was already an alarming sign so I expected a difficult match today. But the problem is Rafa didn't look sharp in his last 2 matches, lack of focus, and no rhythm. I am not at easy for his next matches but hoping he improves.

I thought Nadal played well in all of his matches here. It's just that Haase and Petzschner played better than him for some part of their respective matches.

Clutch play in the last few sets when he was OBVIOUSLY struggling physically. Fake injury timeout my ass. He couldn't even bend down to some low balls.

Nadal played great after that injury timeout. Made play of the day, in fact. And Nadal himself said he was fine. So, I really fail to see where the "He couldn't even bend down to some low balls" is.

The thigh is connected to the knee right? Maybe the sore thigh is treatable and the knee isn't.

I may be wrong, but I always thought that all our body parts are connected.

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 06:28 PM
It's that stupid Mary Carillo trying to get everyone against Nadal. I hate American commentators for the most part. Gilbert is the exception.

The Magician
06-26-2010, 06:28 PM
I've never seen this many complaints for other injury timeouts when the player isn't clearly limping or completely disabled. This is MTF though so I shouldn't be surprised.

Also about the coaching I don't recall any of these people complaining during the French Open when Soderling walked right up to Norman at the side of the court after losing a point and had a conversation with him.

Nadull is the number one player in the world and now the representative of the sport worldwide. I think his acting like crazy Dani is a bit of a big deal :wavey:

samanosuke
06-26-2010, 06:28 PM
When you calling Nadal as a cheater you are insulting this word . Cheater is honest person to Nadal

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 06:29 PM
I may be wrong, but I always thought that all our body parts are connected.
So the neck is connected to the knee? :confused:

The Magician
06-26-2010, 06:30 PM
It's that stupid Mary Carillo trying to get everyone against Nadal. I hate American commentators for the most part. Gilbert is the exception.

All the reasonable Nadal fans have admitted he used gamesmanship and low tactics to win this time. Only the tards like you have such a persecution complex. Says more about you tards than it does about Mary Carillo who called a spade a spade :wavey:

DrJules
06-26-2010, 06:30 PM
I love all those discussions about bending the rules instead of breaking them. Where exactly in the rules does it say you can call the trainer, when you're not injured, to break your opponent's rhythym?

We'll never know how hurt Rafa actually was but it's ridiculous to say it would be withing the rules to do it.

It is difficult to prove if injured or not.

JMG
06-26-2010, 06:31 PM
If he's played any better than he did from Game 2 of the first set until the end of the 3rd set than please tell us the date, event and opponent.

In a lot of his matches he was volleying and returning better than today, for example in Halle. Maybe even the Federer match was better two weeks ago.

Winning sets over Lacko in Memphis 2010.
Winning sets over Mayer in AO 2010.
Querrey in Montreal 2009 was clearly better, almost a flawless match.
Llodra in Metz 2009.
Moya and maybe Lopez, Hernych, Wawrinka in Vienna 2008 was better.

Then, he had also a lot of easy wins I didn't see.

Mjau!
06-26-2010, 06:31 PM
These dodgy medical timeouts also discredit his opponent's achievement if he does win. Another reason why it's poor sportsmanship when he's clearly moving fine.

Yeah, yeah.. and the tendinitis always turns up when he is in trouble, how convenient...

He only gets himself in trouble when it flares up. It's simple logic really. :lol:

Nadal was stretching out that knee. I don't think any medical timeout can help chronic tendinitis.

Then why take me? :unsure:

GasquetFan
06-26-2010, 06:32 PM
It is difficult to prove if injured or not.

He was running around the court perfectly straight after his time out, and he even said himself after the match he was fine and not injured... proof enough for me that it was fake,

The Magician
06-26-2010, 06:33 PM
It is difficult to prove if injured or not.

Actually it's extremely easy to prove. If he runs like a rabbit and shows no sign of being hindered at all he's not injured. How can anyone possibly say he had the 2 injuries he said he had after watching the match :confused:

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 06:33 PM
All the reasonable Nadal fans have admitted he used gamesmanship and low tactics to win this time. Only the tards like you have such a persecution complex. Says more about you tards than it does about Mary Carillo who called a spade a spade :wavey:
They aren't Nadal fans if they believe Nadal cheated. I saw him strectching his knee. He was obviously in some discomfort. And Petz did the same thing. I don't see anything wrong with what either did.

EternalxJourney
06-26-2010, 06:33 PM
At the beginning I just didn't like Nadal as a person and his style of play . But with the time he became disgusting with his falsity and faking . Now I just fell sadness for him , It isn't easy to act someone and be someone other , we all are too strict to him , we all must understand when someone is acting somebody else , at some stage he must show to us his true face and true personality , and than we over reacting instead try to help him . Poor guy , he needs our help not hating

Great post. MTF needs more love, not hate.

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 06:34 PM
Fed is one of them, you know? :D



I thought Nadal played well in all of his matches here. It's just that Haase and Petzschner played better than him for some part of their respective matches.



Nadal played great after that injury timeout. Made play of the day, in fact. And Nadal himself said he was fine. So, I really fail to see where the "He couldn't even bend down to some low balls" is.



I may be wrong, but I always thought that all our body parts are connected.

true, fed tends to be a clown against nadal. not always though. he has beaten him soundly on some occasions. i think its more a moral dilemma for him. he doesnt want to go down to the levels of nadal to counter his tactics.

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 06:34 PM
He was running around the court perfectly straight after his time out, and he even said himself after the match he was fine and not injured... proof enough for me that it was fake,
He says that all the time. Even during RG 2009. Then you hear he is out for 6 weeks. He obviously doesn't want to show weakness to his opponent.

Matt01
06-26-2010, 06:34 PM
When you calling Nadal as a cheater you are insulting this word . Cheater is honest person to Nadal


:rolleyes:

ossie
06-26-2010, 06:36 PM
haters are so sad :haha:

GasquetFan
06-26-2010, 06:36 PM
He says that all the time. Even during RG 2009. Then you hear he is out for 6 weeks. He obviously doesn't want to show weakness to his opponent.

If he doesn't like showing weakness to his opponents, why call out a trainer? Wouldn't that tell the opponent that they are in pain? Uhhh, yes.

careergrandslam
06-26-2010, 06:36 PM
It's that stupid Mary Carillo trying to get everyone against Nadal. I hate American commentators for the most part. Gilbert is the exception.

what did she say?

Corey Feldman
06-26-2010, 06:36 PM
imagine had Nadal played a fit & healthy Gulbis today

Navratil
06-26-2010, 06:36 PM
Petzschner's last 6 Grand-Slam-matches were 5-setters :-D

At least he won 2 in Wimbledon!

ShotmaKer
06-26-2010, 06:37 PM
It's that stupid Mary Carillo trying to get everyone against Nadal. I hate American commentators for the most part. Gilbert is the exception.

of course you think so, he's a Rafatard.

Ben.
06-26-2010, 06:37 PM
among loads of nonsense posted here I am shocked that someone here actually makes sense and thinks rationally. WHat are you doing here dude? Go maybe do something where you could be helpful to the society. After all how many balanced individuals does this world have...

Lol well I was hoping to discuss tennis and enhance the experience of watching it but unfortunately not enough of that actually goes on here. Though I like to think it's just the minority making the most noise.

Manequin75
06-26-2010, 06:37 PM
Rafa really has to work on his service returns. He is making everybody's serves look outworldly.

ANything to do with serve is Rafa's problem - be it serving himself or returning serve. When the point becomes neutral he is F-ing unbelievable.

Funny thought - if second serve was eliminated and each person given only one serve per point - think Nadal would be unbeatable on any surface. LOL

His problems would all be resolved.

Start da Game
06-26-2010, 06:38 PM
I've never seen this many complaints for other injury timeouts when the player isn't clearly limping or completely disabled. This is MTF though so I shouldn't be surprised.

Also about the coaching I don't recall any of these people complaining during the French Open when Soderling walked right up to Norman at the side of the court after losing a point and had a conversation with him.

i have never seen this level of utter bitterness and extreme hatred over a tennis player on any forum.......i admit that i am a fedhater but i give credit where due and acknowledge that he is one of the greats in the game........

but these extreme haters here are terrified like shit and keep praying for a nadal defeat.......the more rafa annoys these obnoxious little weeds, the more happy fans like me are.......

nadal has a chronic knee issue for fuck's sake, he takes an injury time out and for that he is being ripped apart like if he murdered a nun and escaped the punishment.......

Etern
06-26-2010, 06:38 PM
I know a lot of people will dislike me for this (mostly Rafa-fans I guess) but I wish Rafa could behave like a nr 1 on court. Often he plays like a nr 1 and in his own way tries to be it of the court, but the on court his behavior is something I will never fall for. Sadly he is far from the only one of the younger generation that behaves like this and it's sad to see.

And I actually like players that behaves like a-holes, I just dislike this "I'm a such great guy so my gamemanship is OK". I guess I'm old so I like my "bad guys" to behave like bad guys all the time..

Most people will probably see my swedish flag and say I "hate" Nadal because I'm a "Söderlingtard" but that couldn't be more wrong.

NADALbULLS
06-26-2010, 06:38 PM
It's that stupid Mary Carillo trying to get everyone against Nadal. I hate American commentators for the most part. Gilbert is the exception.

The female Americans seem to be the worst commentators on the planet. I like Mac and Gilbert (though I don't like Gilbert), but not Shriver and Carillo. Agassi would be awesome.

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 06:39 PM
imagine had Nadal played a fit & healthy Gulbis today

this is a good point.

NADALbULLS
06-26-2010, 06:39 PM
Nadal is 14 wins and 2 losses, in 5 setters.

Topspin Forehand
06-26-2010, 06:41 PM
what did she say?
She said Nadal was cheating and that it's so refreshing to see Federer being one that doesn't cheat. Basically a Fedtard comment.

allpro
06-26-2010, 06:41 PM
gamesmanship is an integral part of sport.....always has been, always will be.

all credit to rafa & co. :hatoff:

fixed ;)

NADALbULLS
06-26-2010, 06:43 PM
WIMBLEDON, England (AP)—Second-seeded Rafael Nadal has survived a huge scare from 33rd-seeded German Philipp Petzschner to move into the fourth round of Wimbledon.

Nadal, battling injuries to his left arm and right thigh, needed more than 3 1/2 hours to defeat Petzschner 6-4, 4-6, 6-7 (5), 6-2, 6-3 on Saturday.

The Spaniard made the decisive break in eighth game of the final set before holding serve to love to close out the match.

Nadal will play unseeded Frenchman Paul-Henri Mathieu for a berth in the quarterfinals.

LOL it's really hard to tell who is who when Simon and Murray play, they play the same style and similar hair from a distance.

Veronique
06-26-2010, 06:44 PM
So many haters out of the woodworks to call Rafa names. I've watched many a match when Rafa was being given a comprehensive beating but he never called a trainer. I didn't see him play before 2004 but at least from 2004 on you can count the matches where he has felt the need to call a trainer on 1 hand. Rules are there for a reason. It was within his right to call for a trainer if he felt he needed it to be able to continue playing. Otherwise, what's the rule there for if players can't take advantage of it when needed. Those who claim he was faking don't like him anyway.

You can hate all you want. Rafa is number 1 player in the world right, with 7 GS under is belt. So keep hating away!

paseo
06-26-2010, 06:45 PM
look guys iM the most objective here.

among loads of nonsense posted here I am shocked that someone here actually makes sense and thinks rationally. WHat are you doing here dude? Go maybe do something where you could be helpful to the society. After all how many balanced individuals does this world have...

flyboy, is that you?

So the neck is connected to the knee? :confused:

Well, through the whole body :D

NADALbULLS
06-26-2010, 06:46 PM
So many haters out of the woodworks to call Rafa names. I've watched many a match when Rafa was being given a comprehensive beating but he never called a trainer. I didn't see him play before 2004 but at least from 2004 on you can count the matches where he has felt the need to call a trainer on 1 hand. Rules are there for a reason. It was within his right to call for a trainer if he felt he needed it to be able to continue playing. Otherwise, what's the rule there for if players can't take advantage of it when needed. Those who claim he was faking don't like him anyway.

You can hate all you want. Rafa is number 1 player in the world right, with 7 GS under is belt. So keep hating away!

ROCK=ON! This is what its like when Nadal rules the world. Imagine when Federer is a retired couch potato, what will the haters do then?

careergrandslam
06-26-2010, 06:47 PM
She said Nadal was cheating and that it's so refreshing to see Federer being one that doesn't cheat. Basically a Fedtard comment.

i honestly want to punch that women in the face.
i hate carillo.
i think nadal should report that woman to the espn management.

NADALbULLS
06-26-2010, 06:48 PM
i honestly want to punch that women in the face.
i hate carillo.
i think nadal should report that woman to the espn management.

I'd love to have heard her commentary when Nadal beat Federer at Wimbledon. I'll see if I can get a copy of her work this time!

Arkulari
06-26-2010, 06:50 PM
Rafa had a bad BP conversion, his ROS isn't at his best point but at the end he's winning the matches, serving very very well and that's all there is about in this surface :)

Priam
06-26-2010, 06:50 PM
A lot of salty people here.

careergrandslam
06-26-2010, 06:51 PM
I'd love to have heard her commentary when Nadal beat Federer at Wimbledon. I'll see if I can get a copy of her work this time!

that woman is disgusting.
speaks like a man, acts like a weed.
i think i might lodge a complaint to espn.

ShotmaKer
06-26-2010, 06:51 PM
ROCK=ON! This is what its like when Nadal rules the world. Imagine when Federer is a retired couch potato, what will the haters do then?

i know you won't be posting here anymore as soon as Rafa starts to lose.

tektonac
06-26-2010, 06:52 PM
very very disappointed with nadal's gamesmanship, medical timeouts, coaching from the box, etc .... thought he was the genuine champ :confused:

M4RC
06-26-2010, 06:53 PM
that is just pure hatred.
i hope the mods see ur post.

this is just uncalled for.

This boards are full of that towards Nadal. It's insane really, it borders the pure evilness. I'm just ignoring all these clowns, I just can't stand them anymore. Not because of Nadal, I'd think the same if those comments were referred to any other player.

tangerine_dream
06-26-2010, 06:53 PM
toad must dispose of this cheat
From one cheat to another, eh?

3CnX6k0snxA&

ApproachShot
06-26-2010, 06:53 PM
It's amazing how quickly some people are to criticise Nadal; I guess this is true for most top players. While it seems that he is very liberal in what might constitute an injury so as to warrant an injury time out at crucial times in the match, only he knows what discomfort he was feeling in his elbow and thigh. Accusing someone of cheating is a strong statement to make, and in my opinion should not be done unless they know the full facts.

Whether or not Nadal was being coached, his reaction to the umpire warning was not nice. Uncle Toni should just keep silent during matches in the future or else the accusations will continue.

Back to the match. Petzschner played great during the second and third sets, but he has been playing a lot of tennis this week so I'm not surprised he could not tough it out in the last two sets.

But that's not to hide the fact that Rafa must improve. In some senses he can count himself lucky to be facing PHM and not a more dangerous opponent, but the Frenchman has been playing well and could have a sniff of an upset if Nadal does not step his return of serve up a gear.

Still, Fed had two unconvincing wins - now the same can be said of Rafa. But the fact is that they both remain in the tournament and as long as they do, they are always the most dangerous players out there.

The Magician
06-26-2010, 06:54 PM
This boards are full of that towards Nadal. It's insane really, it borders the pure evilness. I'm just ignoring all these clowns, I just can't stand them anymore. Not because of Nadal, I'd think the same if those comments were referred to another player.

You're right, no one inspires hate the way Nadull does. What do you think that says about Nadull?

Clay Death
06-26-2010, 06:56 PM
So many haters out of the woodworks to call Rafa names. I've watched many a match when Rafa was being given a comprehensive beating but he never called a trainer. I didn't see him play before 2004 but at least from 2004 on you can count the matches where he has felt the need to call a trainer on 1 hand. Rules are there for a reason. It was within his right to call for a trainer if he felt he needed it to be able to continue playing. Otherwise, what's the rule there for if players can't take advantage of it when needed. Those who claim he was faking don't like him anyway.

You can hate all you want. Rafa is number 1 player in the world right, with 7 GS under is belt. So keep hating away!

their mindless hate not only consumes them in every way but it has just about ruined their lives.

this is what they live for. how bloody pathetic?

JMG
06-26-2010, 06:56 PM
From one cheat to another, eh?

3CnX6k0snxA&

This is called humour.

Etern
06-26-2010, 06:56 PM
From one cheat to another, eh?

3CnX6k0snxA&

Yes, thats why everyone love their matches :lol:

Start da Game
06-26-2010, 06:57 PM
very very disappointed with nadal's gamesmanship, medical timeouts, coaching from the box, etc .... thought he was the genuine champ :confused:

wow, disappointed? go find a second rate bar, drink and faint.......

angry1
06-26-2010, 06:58 PM
I have no idea if Nadal was injured or not(my guess is yes,but no more so than when a break would have been less well timed),but to say calling an injury timeout when you're not injured is legal is rubbish.If my guess is right he wasn't cheating.

It's* immoral and illegal,but impossible to police as one can't tell if someone else is in pain or not.His outrage at being warned for coaching was more annoying IMO,given his constant time wasting goes unpunished.

*calling timeout when not injured

Start da Game
06-26-2010, 06:58 PM
their mindless hate not only consumes them in every way but it has just about ruined their lives.

this is what they live for. how bloody pathetic?

double affirmative, blood bro hercules........in a way i pity all the haters because the clay monster is going to be tougher and tougher to beat from here on........

he knocked out a big server couple days ago playing average tennis and today he stopped a player in freak form.......

paseo
06-26-2010, 06:59 PM
I don't think that Nadal cheated. But, they really should make the rules that injury time-outs are only permitted BEFORE your own serve. It was an entertaining match overall.

@ all Nadal fans here :
Come on, at least acknowledge that the injury time out was the turning point of the match :) Star sports commentator Vijay Amritraj said it spot on, that Nadal was in trouble and that injury time out arrested Petzschner's momentum.

Rafahólico
06-26-2010, 07:00 PM
I think people are making up things now because they want Nadal to be a faker.

F A C T

:yeah:

Commander Data
06-26-2010, 07:01 PM
It is not that Nadal has won by cheating. He was the better man out there in the end.

i do not call it cheating what Nadal does lots of players do this kind of mental thing. It is just funny to see, that when he gets behind something with his legs is wrong every freaking time.

But that's normal, with Federer it is (typically) in presser usually that something unlucky turns up that was bothering him when he loses..Everybody has his metal tricks to deal with difficulty..

Commander Data
06-26-2010, 07:02 PM
double affirmative, blood bro hercules........in a way i feel pity for all the haters because the clay monster is going to be tougher and tougher to beat from here on........

he knocked out a big server couple days ago playing average tennis and today he stopped a player in freak form.......

You are the epitome of a hater, so just shut up.

Clay Death
06-26-2010, 07:03 PM
Poor guy. Getting all hopes up for the upset and Nadal crushes them. Therapy is always a good thing for these obsessions.

therapy will not work for some. i recommend an asylum for the insane.

these haters hate the clay warrior because he wins. he has always been a winner.


he got tore up by tsonga at Oz in 2007. he never called a trainer. he has hade a number of matches on hard courts where he was blown of the court. again, no trainers were ever called.

the guy is injured and he has recurring knee issues. the mindless rodents sitting at home would never understand the amount of pain he has played in for the last 2 years.

his style of play is very demanding on his body. you can just see it. he has to give everything he has got. this is why he has basically been injured off and on ever since he was 17.


we are not the ones out there actually doing the battle. and neither are we medical experts. lets give these great athletes a chance before castigating them at a moment`s notice.

we just dont know exactly how much pain one may be in. multiple injury issues is guaranteed to throw somebody out of sync for a moment.

admire the courage and the battle.

Manequin75
06-26-2010, 07:03 PM
[QUOTE=ApproachShot;10094165]It's amazing how quickly some people are to criticise Nadal; I guess this is true for most top players. While it seems that he is very liberal in what might constitute an injury so as to warrant an injury time out at crucial times in the match, only he knows what discomfort he was feeling in his elbow and thigh. Accusing someone of cheating is a strong statement to make, and in my opinion should not be done unless they know the full facts.

Whether or not Nadal was being coached, his reaction to the umpire warning was not nice. Uncle Toni should just keep silent during matches in the future or else the accusations will continue.



what did Rafa tell the umpire when he got the violation? I couldnt hear it.

scarecrows
06-26-2010, 07:03 PM
@ all Nadal fans here :
Come on, at least acknowledge that the injury time out was the turning point of the match :) Star sports commentator Vijay Amritraj said it spot on, that Nadal was in trouble and that injury time out arrested Petzschner's momentum.

actually Nadal started better the 4th set, Petz had a difficult service game
i thought the break would do good to Petz but he came out very stiff and lost all rhythm so it worked fine for Nadal

Nadal would have won the match with or without ITO, just his on court behaviour is appalling

Priam
06-26-2010, 07:05 PM
I think this one was more questionable due to the TIMING of the medical timeout.

Modetopia
06-26-2010, 07:05 PM
On court coaching is so WTA...:o

Rafaspin
06-26-2010, 07:05 PM
From one cheat to another, eh?

3CnX6k0snxA&

:lol:

Etern
06-26-2010, 07:07 PM
It's amazing how quickly some people are to criticise Nadal; I guess this is true for most top players. While it seems that he is very liberal in what might constitute an injury so as to warrant an injury time out at crucial times in the match, only he knows what discomfort he was feeling in his elbow and thigh. Accusing someone of cheating is a strong statement to make, and in my opinion should not be done unless they know the full facts.

Whether or not Nadal was being coached, his reaction to the umpire warning was not nice. Uncle Toni should just keep silent during matches in the future or else the accusations will continue.

Back to the match. Petzschner played great during the second and third sets, but he has been playing a lot of tennis this week so I'm not surprised he could not tough it out in the last two sets.

But that's not to hide the fact that Rafa must improve. In some senses he can count himself lucky to be facing PHM and not a more dangerous opponent, but the Frenchman has been playing well and could have a sniff of an upset if Nadal does not step his return of serve up a gear.

Still, Fed had two unconvincing wins - now the same can be said of Rafa. But the fact is that they both remain in the tournament and as long as they do, they are always the most dangerous players out there.

You have a lot of good points. Sadly I don't feel confident enough in english to counter them all.

I just had a feeling that I was one of the persons you meant and thats why a fealt a need to answer. I admit that my timing to criticise Nadal probably was wrong and thats my mistake.

It's just a feeling I have had for some time and this was the time I tried to put it into words. And I loved the fact that Nadal came to the tour and challanged Federer, for me that was what tennis needed. I guess all the time ass a challanger have made him into to that and not a nr 1.

If I have said something you fint strange, please PM me and give me a chance to explain myself.

extremaduratenis
06-26-2010, 07:08 PM
Congrats Rafa!!!
Another step to finish the year as WORLD NUMBER ONE

careergrandslam
06-26-2010, 07:09 PM
im in the belief u should do everything in ur power to win, win ugly, use medical timeouts, use up some time, etc.
winners are grinners.

i would bash my own grandmother in the head with a sledgehammer if it means that i win.

i have no problem with rafa getting med timeouts.

as i said u do anything u can to win, there is no such thing as fair on planet earth.

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 07:13 PM
im in the belief u should do everything in ur power to win, win ugly, use medical timeouts, use up some time, etc.
winners are grinners.

i would bash my own grandmother in the head with a sledgehammer if it means that i win.

i have no problem with rafa getting med timeouts.

as i said u do anything u can to win, there is no such thing as fair on planet earth.

this attitude represents everything thats wrong with our world. they should let people like you go live on mars or something so we can finally create a world of love and peace.

Etern
06-26-2010, 07:15 PM
It is not that Nadal has won by cheating. He was the better man out there in the end.

i do not call it cheating what Nadal does lots of players do this kind of mental thing. It is just funny to see, that when he gets behind something with his legs is wrong every freaking time.

But that's normal, with Federer it is (typically) in presser usually that something unlucky turns up that was bothering him when he loses..Everybody has his metal tricks to deal with difficulty..

Of course he didn't win by cheating. Thats the beauty of tennis, the best player of the day will always win. Thats because it's not about winning some points but winning the important points.

And I agree with you, it's "funny" to see. It doesn't mean he is not in pain, but it's the pain you never feel when you are winning. And from my career (not tennis but other sports) everything hurts so much more when you are behind. I don't think this is just Nadal, but it just doesn't feel like the nr 1.

(ps. love some parts about his game)

paseo
06-26-2010, 07:15 PM
i would bash my own grandmother in the head with a sledgehammer if it means that i win.


:eek:

The Magician
06-26-2010, 07:15 PM
im in the belief u should do everything in ur power to win, win ugly, use medical timeouts, use up some time, etc.
winners are grinners.

i would bash my own grandmother in the head with a sledgehammer if it means that i win.

i have no problem with rafa getting med timeouts.

as i said u do anything u can to win, there is no such thing as fair on planet earth.

Most people wouldn't agree with this, but at least you're honest and live in reality unlike the other tards. Still surely you can understand why people who enjoy the fair play of Federer are so disappointed by this match?

Castafiore
06-26-2010, 07:15 PM
I love all those discussions about bending the rules instead of breaking them. Where exactly in the rules does it say you can call the trainer, when you're not injured, to break your opponent's rhythym?

We'll never know how hurt Rafa actually was but it's ridiculous to say it would be withing the rules to do it.
Not defending it but a lot of players bend those rules. It's normal that you're trying to see how far you can stretch them, it's human nature to explore the limits of rules. I have no idea why some want their favorite players to be total saints.

Remember when Fed took a bathroom break during AO 2010 (against Davydenko).
From his presser back then:
"When the sun comes from the side, the ball seems half the size and is just hard to hit. I never take toilet breaks, but I thought 'Why not?'

I just hoped that with every minute it took, the sun would move another centimeter."
If you're going to nitpick about rules, this is clearly not why the bathroom break is allowed. That's gamesmanship. However, all players use it, no matter how hard some tards are trying to put their player on a pedestal claiming that he/she is above it. Back then, some of the articles written about that match also used the word "cheater".

None of these players are saints.

MariaV
06-26-2010, 07:18 PM
I love all those discussions about bending the rules instead of breaking them. Where exactly in the rules does it say you can call the trainer, when you're not injured, to break your opponent's rhythym?

We'll never know how hurt Rafa actually was but it's ridiculous to say it would be withing the rules to do it.

Just for the note, dear Miss Double Account: almost every pro has some legit niggle/injury to call for a trainer or withdraw. :) :wavey:

The Magician
06-26-2010, 07:20 PM
The most disappointing thing about Nadal's behavior is it comes right after the Mahut-Isner legendary match, which showed the spirit of fair play and respect for the game is stronger than ever. Nadal took that all away and anyone who saw this match, which was the first match on NBC for Americans, see the cheating and sulking of Nadal going unpunished. All the goodwill from the Isner match is pretty much gone for the casual fan :sad:

elessar
06-26-2010, 07:23 PM
Not defending it but a lot of players bend those rules. It's normal that you're trying to see how far you can stretch them, it's human nature to explore the limits of rules. I have no idea why some want their favorite players to be total saints.

Remember when Fed took a bathroom break during AO 2010 (against Davydenko).
From his presser back then:
"When the sun comes from the side, the ball seems half the size and is just hard to hit. I never take toilet breaks, but I thought 'Why not?'

I just hoped that with every minute it took, the sun would move another centimeter."
If you're going to nitpick about rules, this is clearly not why the bathroom break is allowed. That's gamesmanship. However, all players use it, no matter how hard some tards are trying to put their player on a pedestal claiming that he/she is above it. Back then, some of the articles written about that match also used the word "cheater".

None of these players are saints.

Just for the note, dear Miss Double Account: almost every pro has some legit niggle/injury to call for a trainer or withdraw. :) :wavey:
Did someone quote my post in the Rafachat thread :lol:

Ariel
06-26-2010, 07:25 PM
Expected cop out by Petz against a top ranked player. Same thing happened to him when he played a resurgent JC Ferrero at the US Open last year - Ferrero was blown off the court first two sets with Petz' serve and volley tactics. Transitional set three - and then downhill from there. His serve went off, he made loads of UE's at net, and just seemed to deflate. It was sad to see. And there was no "cheating" there at all.

Nadal would have found a way to win this even without his timeouts.

tektonac
06-26-2010, 07:25 PM
The most disappointing thing about Nadal's behavior is it comes right after the Mahut-Isner legendary match, which showed the spirit of fair play and respect for the game is stronger than ever. Nadal took that all away and anyone who saw this match, which was the first match on NBC for Americans, see the cheating and sulking of Nadal going unpunished. All the goodwill from the Isner match is pretty much gone for the casual fan :sad:

well said, nothing to add :yeah:

nanoman
06-26-2010, 07:25 PM
This, folks, is why the crowd at Wimbledon are brandead casuals that eat whatever sh1t the media feeds them and can't process visuals to thought process to proper reaction. The crowd at Paris and Rome would've rightly booed the sh1t out of the sneaky Mallorcan. Instead of bashing them, we should cherish them.

MrChopin
06-26-2010, 07:28 PM
Love the "nadal has to find form" from rafatards. This is his form. Cheat, lie, and bully, but of course humble after. saddest thing is that many are celebrating an R3 win against pet like it's a slam victory. I hope soderking picks his ass again, then extends it to nadal at the end for a whiff.

Manequin75
06-26-2010, 07:35 PM
The most disappointing thing about Nadal's behavior is it comes right after the Mahut-Isner legendary match, which showed the spirit of fair play and respect for the game is stronger than ever. Nadal took that all away and anyone who saw this match, which was the first match on NBC for Americans, see the cheating and sulking of Nadal going unpunished. All the goodwill from the Isner match is pretty much gone for the casual fan :sad:

lol you are such a drama queen. :D

anutam
06-26-2010, 07:36 PM
CHEATER :mad:

superslam77
06-26-2010, 07:37 PM
I have no idea if Nadal was injured or not(my guess is yes,but no more so than when a break would have been less well timed),but to say calling an injury timeout when you're not injured is legal is rubbish.If my guess is right he wasn't cheating.

It's* immoral and illegal,but impossible to police as one can't tell if someone else is in pain or not.His outrage at being warned for coaching was more annoying IMO,given his constant time wasting goes unpunished.

*calling timeout when not injured

You guys can't understand spanish.

Listen in the first timeout he said my arm hurts, i felt a sting in there. 2nd timeout he said i don't have anything just taking precaution.

Castafiore
06-26-2010, 07:37 PM
Did someone quote my post in the Rafachat thread :lol:
Nope and as a regular of the Rafachat, you know that.

I read back in this thread.:)

Manequin75
06-26-2010, 07:38 PM
Love the "nadal has to find form" from rafatards. This is his form. Cheat, lie, and bully, but of course humble after. saddest thing is that many are celebrating an R3 win against pet like it's a slam victory. I hope soderking picks his ass again, then extends it to nadal at the end for a whiff.

these are the words of a hater lol But I agree - sod matchup here will be tough. If Rafa has had problems with Hasse and Phillip serves then SOd will be several notches up. I am actually nervous about that matchup. VERY

M4RC
06-26-2010, 07:40 PM
You're right, no one inspires hate the way Nadull does. What do you think that says about Nadull?

It says that all the haters, with you as their leader, are stupid. Is it clear? I really hope so.

EDIT. Oh, my bad, I forgot that he is also the one to prevent the absolute Federer dominance we would be suffering these days if he had not appeared on tour in 2004. Something the Nadal haters aka Fedtards like you just cannot stand.

Start da Game
06-26-2010, 07:44 PM
these are the words of a hater lol But I agree - sod matchup here will be tough. If Rafa has had problems with Hasse and Phillip serves then SOd will be several notches up. I am actually nervous about that matchup. VERY

don't be nervous, sodamug won't be a threat........nadal faced a couple of 'clowns in freak form' in his last couple of rounds and he arrested them amazingly if you ask me........

he will step it up a notch in the coming rounds and soderling wouldn't know where to hide his face after the quarterfinal.......he might even need a psychologist help to recover after that match.......

Clay Death
06-26-2010, 07:45 PM
It says that all the haters, with you as their leader, are stupid. Is it clear? I really hope so.



its the knee again M4RC. the poor guy just cannot seem to get a break.


"Nadal said he had a knee problems since the match vs Roddick/Miami & even at Monte Carlo. He knows knees are NOT 100% recovered He will have his right knee treated after Wimby, will miss Davis cup. For now he will give his best for Wimbledon"

' Rafael Nadal: If I called the physio is means my knee was hurting a LOT. The Quad also tight. Will speak to supervisor about coaching. Will get treatment for the knee after Wimbledon. "
_________________

allpro
06-26-2010, 07:46 PM
Not defending it but a lot of players bend those rules. It's normal that you're trying to see how far you can stretch them, it's human nature to explore the limits of rules. I have no idea why some want their favorite players to be total saints.

Remember when Fed took a bathroom break during AO 2010 (against Davydenko).
From his presser back then:
"When the sun comes from the side, the ball seems half the size and is just hard to hit. I never take toilet breaks, but I thought 'Why not?'

I just hoped that with every minute it took, the sun would move another centimeter."
If you're going to nitpick about rules, this is clearly not why the bathroom break is allowed. That's gamesmanship. However, all players use it, no matter how hard some tards are trying to put their player on a pedestal claiming that he/she is above it. Back then, some of the articles written about that match also used the word "cheater".

None of these players are saints.

a brilliant move by fed :worship:

tektonac
06-26-2010, 07:47 PM
ESPN box called out uncle tony few times already for coaching rafa during the match; mcenroe had a few pokes at tony like, vamos = serve wide slice, put the sunglasses = the sun may come out :haha: :haha:

angry1
06-26-2010, 07:55 PM
You guys can't understand spanish.

Listen in the first timeout he said my arm hurts, i felt a sting in there. 2nd timeout he said i don't have anything just taking precaution.

You're right i'm entirely ignorant of Spanish.If there was nothing what precaution was he taking,surely he meant nothing serious or what could the Doctor treat?

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 07:59 PM
Not defending it but a lot of players bend those rules. It's normal that you're trying to see how far you can stretch them, it's human nature to explore the limits of rules. I have no idea why some want their favorite players to be total saints.

Remember when Fed took a bathroom break during AO 2010 (against Davydenko).
From his presser back then:
"When the sun comes from the side, the ball seems half the size and is just hard to hit. I never take toilet breaks, but I thought 'Why not?'

I just hoped that with every minute it took, the sun would move another centimeter."
If you're going to nitpick about rules, this is clearly not why the bathroom break is allowed. That's gamesmanship. However, all players use it, no matter how hard some tards are trying to put their player on a pedestal claiming that he/she is above it. Back then, some of the articles written about that match also used the word "cheater".

None of these players are saints.

this was just smart from the GOAT. its not like he calls the trainer every time he starts losing. these is a huge difference between the GOAT and the clay GOAT in this regard.

green25814
06-26-2010, 08:02 PM
Reckon a tired Rafa here will be quite an easy opponent for Soderling/Murray tbh.

I reckon either those two or Roddick/Novak are winning this year, since I don't feel good about Fed either.

And that would be great, there's been way too much of Fedal.