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Hanescu fined $15,000 by Wimbledon officials

kindling
06-26-2010, 04:52 PM
WIMBLEDON, England (AP) -Victor Hanescu has been fined $15,000 by Wimbledon officials after a spitting incident in his third-round match.The Romanian was fined $7,500 Saturday for unsportsmanlike conduct after swearing and spitting in the direction of hecklers in the crowd. He was fined an additional $7,500 for not using ``best efforts'' at the conclusion of Friday's match against Germany's Daniel Brands.The Romanian foot-faulted and served a series of double-faults in the final game of his match before retiring while trailing 0-3 in the fifth set. He said he had a leg muscle injury.Hanescu has 10 days to appeal.


SERIOUSLY???!!! What's the ref getting fined for the inability to officiate properly?!!!!

SheepleBuster
06-26-2010, 04:54 PM
WIMBLEDON, England (AP) -Victor Hanescu has been fined $15,000 by Wimbledon officials after a spitting incident in his third-round match.The Romanian was fined $7,500 Saturday for unsportsmanlike conduct after swearing and spitting in the direction of hecklers in the crowd. He was fined an additional $7,500 for not using ``best efforts'' at the conclusion of Friday's match against Germany's Daniel Brands.The Romanian foot-faulted and served a series of double-faults in the final game of his match before retiring while trailing 0-3 in the fifth set. He said he had a leg muscle injury.Hanescu has 10 days to appeal.


SERIOUSLY???!!! What's the ref getting fined for the inability to officiate properly?!!!!

How about fining Rafael Nadal who takes fake injury timeouts yet again and pretends he is injured and then runs like a gazelle.Shameful. I'd ban Rafa for being such a cheat. He has done it way too many times

Aenea
06-26-2010, 04:59 PM
How about fining Rafael Nadal who takes fake injury timeouts yet again and pretends he is injured and then runs like a gazelle.Shameful. I'd ban Rafa for being such a cheat. He has done it way too many times

Rafa took time-out for problems with his left arm. What this have to do with his movement/running? :confused:

philosophicalarf
06-26-2010, 05:00 PM
He spat at the crowd, and tanked. Pretty much inevitable fines, there's no mitigating factor for either.

Should have been thrown out of the sport years ago anyway, the smelly fixer.

kindling
06-26-2010, 05:00 PM
Rafa took time-out for problems with his left arm. What this have to do with his movement/running? :confused:

Then came a med time out for the leg, then being talked to by the ref about tony coaching him on court…… cheater.

fran70
06-26-2010, 05:02 PM
WIMBLEDON, England (AP) -Victor Hanescu has been fined $15,000 by Wimbledon officials after a spitting incident in his third-round match.The Romanian was fined $7,500 Saturday for unsportsmanlike conduct after swearing and spitting in the direction of hecklers in the crowd. He was fined an additional $7,500 for not using ``best efforts'' at the conclusion of Friday's match against Germany's Daniel Brands.The Romanian foot-faulted and served a series of double-faults in the final game of his match before retiring while trailing 0-3 in the fifth set. He said he had a leg muscle injury.Hanescu has 10 days to appeal.


SERIOUSLY???!!! What's the ref getting fined for the inability to officiate properly?!!!!

I agree with the fine for the unsportmanlike incident of spitting and swearing. BUT the fine for not giving "his best effort" is too much. How many matches had we seen and "suspected" of players that didn`t give their best. What is the parameter taken by the organizers to establish if a player gave his best or not? How many matches have we seen during this Wimbledon edition where we suspected of players that didn`t give their best?!?!. Come on! This is too much...:confused:

straitup
06-26-2010, 05:03 PM
I agree with the fine for the unsportmanlike incident of spitting and swearing. BUT the fine for not giving "his best effort" is too much. How many matches had we seen and "suspected" of players that didn`t give their best. What is the parameter taken by the organizers to establish if a player gave his best or not? How many matches have we seen during this Wimbledon edition where we suspected of players that didn`t give their best?!?!. Come on! This is too much...:confused:

Reminds me of Davydenko's lack of effort warning against Cilic :lol: . The fine for unsportsmanlike conduct was inevitable, they can't avoid that, no matter what actually happened.

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 05:05 PM
How about fining Rafael Nadal who takes fake injury timeouts yet again and pretends he is injured and then runs like a gazelle.Shameful. I'd ban Rafa for being such a cheat. He has done it way too many times

it worked like a charm as well. he broke right afterwards.

safin-rules-no.1
06-26-2010, 05:05 PM
He should have been retrospectively defaulted. No prize money, no points and can't play his next tournament.

Chiakifug
06-26-2010, 05:06 PM
It was Wimbledons responsibility to stop drunken yobs going around heckling players and racially tauntng them.

Dejan16
06-26-2010, 05:07 PM
How about fining Rafael Nadal who takes fake injury timeouts yet again and pretends he is injured and then runs like a gazelle.Shameful. I'd ban Rafa for being such a cheat. He has done it way too many times

+1

Aenea
06-26-2010, 05:09 PM
+1

:spit:
says a poster with Nole in his avy

Then came a med time out for the leg, then being talked to by the ref about tony coaching him on court…… cheater.
Rafa may have real health problems you know :shrug:

fran70
06-26-2010, 05:10 PM
Reminds me of Davydenko's lack of effort warning against Cilic :lol: . The fine for unsportsmanlike conduct was inevitable, they can't avoid that, no matter what actually happened.

OK. If so, we can "suspect" for instance that Henman didn`t give his best on all his semifinals matches in Wimbledon. Or Gaudio that gives up his matches when things are not going in the way he wants. Feeling frustrated or given up during a match is part of the attitude that a player can feel or perform during a tennis match. Not all the players have the same fighting attitude. I don`t agree with it.

SheepleBuster
06-26-2010, 05:13 PM
it worked like a charm as well. he broke right afterwards.

Seriously. I want to like Rafa. I just can't take the coaching and these fake time outs. Rafa does not seem troubled at all. Rafa could have won this match without the time out but come on. This is getting to a point where ATP needs to do something. Anybody who cheats needs to be dealt with. In tennis. Football floppers. Anyone.

straitup
06-26-2010, 05:14 PM
OK. If so, we can "suspect" for instance that Henman didn`t give his best on all his semifinals matches in Wimbledon. Or Gaudio that gives up his matches when things are not going in the way he wants. Feeling frustrated or given up during a match is part of the attitude that a player can feel or perform during a tennis match. Not all the players have the same fighting attitude. I don`t agree with it.

I was agreeing with the fact that the "lack of effort" fine was bullshit. Players do go through highs and lows...and it's not something you can judge as a chair umpire

SheepleBuster
06-26-2010, 05:14 PM
:spit:
says a poster with Nole in his avy


Rafa may have real health problems you know :shrug:

No he does not. He has done it time and time again. TIME AND TIME AGAIN. Stop being naive. Even John McEnroe had to admit on TV

Aenea
06-26-2010, 05:17 PM
No he does not. He has done it time and time again. TIME AND TIME AGAIN. Stop being naive. Even John McEnroe had to admit on TV

You can't be sure he does not. Picaso took a time-out, too. Is he a cheater as well?
We are derailing the topic, it is about Hanescu being fined. I am no longer talking about Rafa here. Pls, stop it.

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 05:18 PM
Seriously. I want to like Rafa. I just can't take the coaching and these fake time outs. Rafa does not seem troubled at all. Rafa could have won this match without the time out but come on. This is getting to a point where ATP needs to do something. Anybody who cheats needs to be dealt with. In tennis. Football floppers. Anyone.

yeah but its hard to prove hes faking. i just think players should stop choking against him. petz just missed a joke of a sitter that would have given him break point. thats inexcusable.

SheepleBuster
06-26-2010, 05:21 PM
yeah but its hard to prove hes faking. i just think players should stop choking against him. petz just missed a joke of a sitter that would have given him break point. thats inexcusable.

Well.he has done well. I thought he'd get straight setted. But Roger had that toilet break, Novak admitted he takes injury timeouts for nothing, Murray is always injured. Rafa always takes breaks when is behind. Shameful.

Dupuis2006
06-26-2010, 05:22 PM
it worked like a charm as well. he broke right afterwards.

:o

Ouragan
06-26-2010, 05:22 PM
After this, can it be legitimately argued that Wimbledon, not RG, has the worst crowd in the world?

ORGASMATRON
06-26-2010, 05:28 PM
Well.he has done well. I thought he'd get straight setted. But Roger had that toilet break, Novak admitted he takes injury timeouts for nothing, Murray is always injured. Rafa always takes breaks when is behind. Shameful.

well nadal got warned for coaching just now so..

straitup
06-26-2010, 05:29 PM
After this, can it be legitimately argued that Wimbledon, not RG, has the worst crowd in the world?

I haven't been to any of them, but I'm sure all the side courts at the majors can be like that. The thins is, most people only see the main courts, and Wimbledon's main courts seem a lot more civilized than RG

fran70
06-26-2010, 05:31 PM
yeah but its hard to prove hes faking. i just think players should stop choking against him. petz just missed a joke of a sitter that would have given him break point. thats inexcusable.

This is not the first time he does it. Many times that he is in danger of losing a tennis match he pretends that he is injured. Maybe that is time that if a doctor finds that he is ok should be fined for that.

BTW, I don`t hate you ;)

156mphserve
06-26-2010, 05:38 PM
He deserves the fine for not competing his best in that last set. Nobody can honestly tell me that they saw that last game, and they believe that Hanescu wasn't trying to DF. Absolutly horrible. Either keep playing and trying or retire from the match

safin-rules-no.1
06-26-2010, 05:44 PM
It was Wimbledons responsibility to stop drunken yobs going around heckling players and racially tauntng them.

Stop making excuses for his behaviour. Wimbledon security can't be everywhere at once.

fran70
06-26-2010, 05:59 PM
Stop making excuses for his behaviour. Wimbledon security can't be everywhere at once.

If you have been in Wimbledon before you would have seen that there are people of the organization in every stadium and many of them around secondary courts too. This is not the kind of tournament where you can do whatever you like. If you have been in Wimbledon before maybe you should have noticed it.

rubbERR
06-26-2010, 06:03 PM
his match, his decision

safin-rules-no.1
06-26-2010, 06:08 PM
If you have been in Wimbledon before you would have seen that there are people of the organization in every stadium and many of them around secondary courts too. This is not the kind of tournament where you can do whatever you like. If you have been in Wimbledon before maybe you should have noticed it.

I have been to Wimbledon before, smartass. So you probably have 3-4 security guards on court 18 - they were elsewhere on the court and probably were not made aware of what was going on by the umpire. Are they supposed to have supersonic hearing?

STFU.

The Magician
06-26-2010, 06:10 PM
How about fining Rafael Nadal who takes fake injury timeouts yet again and pretends he is injured and then runs like a gazelle.Shameful. I'd ban Rafa for being such a cheat. He has done it way too many times

This shows what a difference ranking makes. If you're not from a powerful country like Romania, or if you play challengers, or if you're not promoted by the ATP, the rules become regularly enforced. But if the system has money behind you, like Nadull, you can pretty much get away with anything. Too Bad Hanescu wasn't born in Spain, England, or the States :sad:

fran70
06-26-2010, 06:13 PM
I have been to Wimbledon before, smartass. So you probably have 3-4 security guards on court 18 - they were elsewhere on the court and probably were not made aware of what was going on by the umpire. Are they supposed to have supersonic hearing?

STFU.

hehehe... I love the girl that you have in your avatar

Drusilla
06-26-2010, 08:21 PM
I agree with the fine for the unsportmanlike incident of spitting and swearing. BUT the fine for not giving "his best effort" is too much. How many matches had we seen and "suspected" of players that didn`t give their best. What is the parameter taken by the organizers to establish if a player gave his best or not? How many matches have we seen during this Wimbledon edition where we suspected of players that didn`t give their best?!?!. Come on! This is too much...:confused:



How many matches have we seen where a player spits at the crowd, deliberately foot-faults to lose points to lose a service game to love, then retires...in a grand slam event?

Total disgrace.

Oh and I've seen 10 times more abuse dished out to a player than that.

It was a pathetic display from him and embarassed the game.

Who on earth gets booed and deliberately foot-faults then retires?

Certainly not a professional tennis player.

Injured?

Like F he was...glad they punished him...twas pathetic...should have been more.

Total embarrasment for him.

buddyholly
06-26-2010, 09:53 PM
It was Wimbledons responsibility to stop drunken yobs going around heckling players and racially tauntng them.

I'm still waiting for proof of that. Do you have it? So far the only people that have been racially insulted in all this seem to be gypsies. I am sure they would not appreciate being compared to Hanescu.

On other sites I'm reading that the 4 arrested fans were Germans.

FormerRafaFan
06-26-2010, 10:11 PM
Seriously. I want to like Rafa. I just can't take the coaching and these fake time outs. Rafa does not seem troubled at all. Rafa could have won this match without the time out but come on. This is getting to a point where ATP needs to do something. Anybody who cheats needs to be dealt with. In tennis. Football floppers. Anyone.

It's funny all these people calling Rafa a cheater. How do you know how injured or not injured he is? Exactly, so shut the hell up. You can't possibly know how his knees feel. It might have been a prevention thing. Maybe he felt something in his knee, no biggie, but he wanted to get it treated to prevent it from getting worse. I don't see a problem for that. And I would be careful by calling him a cheater if I were you.

AndyNonomous
06-26-2010, 10:16 PM
Although Hanescu should probably be fined, and he will probably regret his emotional outburst later, I think we should go easy on him.

He is a human being, and when human beings are subject to extremely frustrating conditions, they are apt to "lose it".

He is a veteran player who had an opportunity to go deep in the most prestigous of all pro tennis tournaments. He was leading his match, and if he had won, he would have had a chance to go another round or two further. He may never get the opportunity to go this deap in a slam again.

Although I wasn't there, there are reports that Victor was being heckled mercilessly. The chair umpire did little to stop the heckling. The match was turning against him, and he saw his opportunity slip away.

I feel sorry for the guy.

partygirl
06-26-2010, 10:38 PM
Although Hanescu should probably be fined, and he will probably regret his emotional outburst later, I think we should go easy on him.

He is a human being, and when human beings are subject to extremely frustrating conditions, they are apt to "lose it".

He is a veteran player who had an opportunity to go deep in the most prestigous of all pro tennis tournaments. He was leading his match, and if he had won, he would have had a chance to go another round or two further. He may never get the opportunity to go this deep in a slam again.

Although I wasn't there, there are reports that Victor was being heckled mercilessly. The chair umpire did little to stop the heckling. The match was turning against him, and he saw his opportunity slip away.

I feel sorry for the guy.

This is the best post here. :worship::yeah:


...and what repercussions for the chair ump? Any???

brent-o
06-26-2010, 10:50 PM
How about fining Rafael Nadal who takes fake injury timeouts yet again and pretends he is injured and then runs like a gazelle.Shameful. I'd ban Rafa for being such a cheat. He has done it way too many times

How about staying on topic? :cool: There are plenty of threads currently for you to hate in.

Bargearse
06-26-2010, 10:53 PM
Under the circumstances, I guess a fine was unavoidable, but what was avoidable is the incident. Obviously this mob were more than just 'boisterous' and the referee could have given Hanescu the benefit of the doubt and had them removed. Had he done that, I'm sure this incident would not have occurred.

brent-o
06-26-2010, 10:59 PM
Has anyone seen a Youtube vid of the incident? What happened exactly? The crowd was yelling thing and Hanescu flipped out?

ShotmaKer
06-26-2010, 11:05 PM
Has anyone seen a Youtube vid of the incident? What happened exactly? The crowd was yelling thing and Hanescu flipped out?

there are YT highlights in the match result thread.

Tommy_Vercetti
06-26-2010, 11:53 PM
They should have made an example out of him. $15,000 is nothing to these players. $150,000 maybe for disgracing the sport.

leng jai
06-27-2010, 12:12 AM
They can't just fine him 150k out of nowhere with no precedent.

whattheheck
06-27-2010, 01:47 AM
Silly officials.

Tommy_Vercetti
06-27-2010, 05:48 AM
They can't just fine him 150k out of nowhere with no precedent.

That's the whole point. Set a precedent for these retirements and behavior that actually matters.

KaiserT
06-27-2010, 10:38 AM
I was agreeing with the fact that the "lack of effort" fine was bullshit. Players do go through highs and lows...and it's not something you can judge as a chair umpire

Hitting 4 DFs on purpose in a game to lose it within a minute is a clear lack of effort/tank.

It's not something that requires a judgement call :lol:

idolwatcher1
06-27-2010, 02:44 PM
Although Hanescu should probably be fined, and he will probably regret his emotional outburst later, I think we should go easy on him.

He is a human being, and when human beings are subject to extremely frustrating conditions, they are apt to "lose it".

He is a veteran player who had an opportunity to go deep in the most prestigous of all pro tennis tournaments. He was leading his match, and if he had won, he would have had a chance to go another round or two further. He may never get the opportunity to go this deap in a slam again.

Although I wasn't there, there are reports that Victor was being heckled mercilessly. The chair umpire did little to stop the heckling. The match was turning against him, and he saw his opportunity slip away.

I feel sorry for the guy.
I also feel sorry for players who get heckled. I also feel sorry for anyone who gets a match point (or several) and are never able to win the match. Having said that, I STOP feeling sorry for those players, when they don't control their emotions, and they don't take the proper steps to ensure that matters are taken care of, but instead lash out, etc., knowing they aren't supposed to do those things.

I'm actually a little surprised that Hanescu could make out what the German hecklers were saying to him, unless he happens to know German really well, and how the hecklers even knew that Hanescu would understand what they were saying to him.

But regardless, Hanescu should've kept going to the umpire until something was done about it, or request another official if the umpire wasn't taking enough action to his liking. I believe all players at slams are allowed to do this, when they really feel an injustice is being placed upon them... but it doesn't sound like Hanescu did this.

kindling
06-27-2010, 02:57 PM
Can't believe the backlash on Hanescu. He didn't do enough in my opinion. He's human. Getting heckled/insulted a whole match at Wimbledon, most of us would lose it. Good for him for not jus standing there and taking it. His frustration isn't a disgrace to the game or the tournament, etc etc. The fines are unfair.

idolwatcher1
06-27-2010, 03:35 PM
Can't believe the backlash on Hanescu. He didn't do enough in my opinion. He's human. Getting heckled/insulted a whole match at Wimbledon, most of us would lose it. Good for him for not jus standing there and taking it. His frustration isn't a disgrace to the game or the tournament, etc etc. The fines are unfair.
There are steps you can take before it gets to the point where you "can't take it anymore"... He's been on the tour long enough to know that. I mean, he won the first two sets, so was he just accepting the heckling that whole time and playing through it? Was it bothering him then?? You don't just keep quiet because you're winning, you make it an issue to the umpire until he does something about it. If the umpire doesn't do anything, you can request to speak to the tournament referee about it. You don't just lash out, because you can't take it anymore. That's a poor excuse.

swann
06-28-2010, 09:40 AM
Victor Hanescu apologised for the spitting incident that marred his third-round Wimbledon exit at the hands of Daniel Brands.


The Romanian, who had already let a two-set lead and match points slip, lost his temper last night with a section of the crowd who were heckling him on Court 18 and appeared to spit in their direction before seeming to deliberately lose a service game. He retired, citing a leg injury, at 3-0 down in the final set.

In a statement, he said: "I would like to apologise to the fans, the AELTC (All England Lawn Tennis Club) and everyone else for my behaviour last night at the end of my match against Daniel Brands."

Hanescu added: "There were people in the crowd that had been insulting me since the beginning of the match. I was winning, had four match points in the third set, but unfortunately I could not close it out.

"Then I got a leg injury at the end of the fourth set. I lost my control briefly in the fifth set after another insult from someone in the crowd.

"I should never have done that but I am human and I made a mistake."

Hanescu's apology should draw a line under the incident. Considering his contrition it seems highly unlikely the 28-year-old will appeal against his punishment.

http://www.tennishead.net/tennisnews/521781/hanescu_issues_apology.html

mcnasty
06-28-2010, 12:22 PM
where's solomon?