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Article : Dani Koellerer in a racism controversy

Action Jackson
06-24-2010, 09:26 PM
The article is in Portuguese. A proper translation would be appreciated.

Koellerer will do anything on a tennis court to fuck with the heads of opponents, but Julio Silva isn't taking it.

http://revistatenis.uol.com.br/Edicoes/0/a-177020-1.asp



Júlio Silva vai à delegacia e presta queixa após ofensas racistas de Koellerer
Durante partida válida por Challenger italiano, brasileiro teria sido ofendido pelo sempre polêmico austríaco

23/Junho/2010

http://revistatenis.uol.com.br/Edicoes/0/imagens/i203479.JPG
Julinho (foto da esquerda) acusa o austríaco de racismo

Um fato no mínimo lamentável aconteceu ontem durante o Challenger de Reggio Emilia, na Itália. Conhecido por se envolver em polêmicas, o austríaco Daniel Koellerer desta vez parece ter extrapolado e está sendo acusado pelo brasileiro Jílio Silva de ter proferido ofensas racistas durante o confronto entre os dois pela primeira rodada do torneio.



A partida foi vencida com certa tranquilidade por Koellerer, atual número 111 do mundo e cabeça-de-chave três no torneio italiano, que aplicou 6/2 e 6/3 no rival. Porém, o que era para ser mais um confronto "normal" acabou virando caso de polícia. Após uma discussão, o austríaco teria ofendido o brasileiro e proferido ofensas racistas ao atual número 169 do mundo.



Em contato com a redação da Revista TÊNIS, Ricardo Hocevar, brasileiro que também disputa o torneio, contou um pouco sobre a polêmica, mas não pôde dar mais informações já que ainda estava envolvido e ajudando o compatriota com o caso. Segundo Hocevar, Julinho foi à delegacia logo após a partida e prestou uma queixa contra o austríaco.



"O Koellerer xingou ele no meio do jogo ontem, e disse algumas coisas que foram racismo, falou várias besteiras", criticou o tenista, que estava acompanhando a partida do colega e se revoltou com o fato. "O Julio foi à polícia e fez uma denúncia. Ele quer que isso seja divulgado pela imprensa, e vamos fazer um abaixo assinado para ATP tirar esse cara do circuito".



Para esclarecer a situação, a reportagem tentou entrar em contato com Júlio Silva, mas devido aos problemas que está enfrentando o tenista não pôde falar no momento. O contato agora está sendo feito por email e em breve publicaremos a versão do brasileiro sobre o ocorrido.


Vale lembrar que esta não é a primeira e nem será a última confusão em que se envolve o austríaco, que no mês passado chegou a ser "estrangulado" pelo compatriota Stefan Koubek durante uma partida válida pela liga local.

Chiakifug
06-24-2010, 09:31 PM
Thas ridiculous, Dani is as clean and fair a player as they come. These are just lies spread b the jealous masses to try and darken his glorious name.

Action Jackson
06-24-2010, 09:33 PM
They played in the 1st round and Koellerer allegedly made racist remarks and Silva has made a formal complaint.

HKz
06-24-2010, 09:37 PM
Hmm

Zirconek
06-24-2010, 09:49 PM
another article: http://esporte.uol.com.br/tenis/ultimas-noticias/2010/06/24/chamado-de-macaco-julio-silva-fala-sobre-racismo-e-quer-rival-banido-do-tenis.jhtm

Silva claims Köllerer called him "monkey" and also said "go back to the jungle" and later "imitated a monkey, by scratching under his arms". Also "two years ago I played him and had troubles, he made a sign suggesting a banana"

tennishero
06-24-2010, 09:56 PM
this **** should be fined and put in a room with 15 oscar hernandes's laughing around him.

scarecrows
06-24-2010, 09:57 PM
seems like it always happens to Julio Silva

there was also the Pashanski incident involving him few years ago

Action Jackson
06-24-2010, 09:59 PM
Julio Silva definitely gets fired up in his matches.

virex
06-24-2010, 10:05 PM
Silva went to the police station to press charges.
And the players are trying to ban Koellerere again, according to the articles.

Mike_Hunt
06-24-2010, 10:17 PM
Such great injustice. Poor Dani, he would never :sad:

ShotmaKer
06-24-2010, 10:21 PM
Crazy Dani at it again.

Mjau!
06-24-2010, 10:37 PM
Didn't some other guy get a 6-month ban for a racial slur?

r2473
06-24-2010, 10:42 PM
Still one of my favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfqp8QEsrds&feature=player_embedded

Frooty_Bazooty
06-24-2010, 10:47 PM
Still one of my favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfqp8QEsrds&feature=player_embedded

:lol: ive seen that clip a hundred times and Ill never get bored of it

scarecrows
06-24-2010, 10:49 PM
Didn't some other guy get a 6-month ban for a racial slur?

i think it was the aussie kid Klein

JolánGagó
06-24-2010, 11:27 PM
never, Dani is innocent.

JMG
06-25-2010, 12:02 AM
Silva :rolleyes:

navy75
06-25-2010, 12:27 AM
It's telling when Koubek choked him in a league match in Austria and the crowd then booed Crazy Dani on top of it....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIYdC4TX_G8

The Magician
06-25-2010, 12:51 AM
Crazy Dani :worship: Tennis won't be the same when you retire :angel:

abraxas21
06-25-2010, 01:07 AM
It's a conspiracy against Dani.

ORGASMATRON
06-25-2010, 01:34 AM
this **** should be fined and put in a room with 15 oscar hernandes's laughing around him.

:haha:

paseo
06-25-2010, 05:21 AM
this **** should be fined and put in a room with 15 oscar hernandes's laughing around him.

:lol:

Dimitra
06-25-2010, 06:10 AM
I don't believe this :( All evil lies!:mad:

Dani :sad:

Everko
06-26-2010, 02:16 PM
ban him

ossie
06-26-2010, 02:35 PM
not surprised, he should be banned from tennis

Sapeod
06-26-2010, 03:42 PM
Koellerer doesn't deserve any respect at all. Should be fined and banned from tennis.

JMG
06-26-2010, 05:29 PM
Big article in German here:
http://tennisnet.com/de-DE/Klartext/Artikel/2010/26-06-2010/Kuehnen_Wimbledon.aspx

Nathaliia
06-26-2010, 05:35 PM
At least he wasn't called a gypsy.

fran70
06-26-2010, 05:46 PM
i think it was the aussie kid Klein

I don`t know if this story is true but if so Koellerer should havee at least a similar sanction to the one that Klein received.

--Aussie--
06-27-2010, 10:48 PM
i can't stand koellerer..they should ban him.

dijus
06-27-2010, 11:30 PM
Silva :rolleyes:

haha, this guy is so poor haha

Roddickominator
06-28-2010, 12:00 AM
Dani is a jackass for sure....but it's just words. Saying things like that shouldn't be punished when guys get away with faking injuries and taking forever in between points etc.

Orka_n
06-28-2010, 12:08 AM
Dani is a jackass for sure....but it's just words. Saying things like that shouldn't be punished when guys get away with faking injuries and taking forever in between points etc.What. Racism is illegal and far worse than time-wasting in tennis. Claiming otherwise is moronic. :o

HKz
06-28-2010, 12:15 AM
What. Racism is illegal and far worse than time-wasting in tennis. Claiming otherwise is moronic. :o

Words aren't illegal.

Roddickominator
06-28-2010, 12:25 AM
What. Racism is illegal and far worse than time-wasting in tennis. Claiming otherwise is moronic. :o

Why is it worse than time-wasting?

Dani is just playing mind games. I don't see how that is any worse than faking an injury to throw your opponent out of rhythm. Why punish one and not the other?

I'd actually make the case that you should be able to say whatever you want on the court, because words aren't physically affecting the action. While taking a fake injury timeout forces your opponent to sit and cool down and get out of rhythm.

KaiserT
06-28-2010, 12:33 AM
Why is it worse than time-wasting?

Dani is just playing mind games. I don't see how that is any worse than faking an injury to throw your opponent out of rhythm. Why punish one and not the other?

I'd actually make the case that you should be able to say whatever you want on the court, because words aren't physically affecting the action. While taking a fake injury timeout forces your opponent to sit and cool down and get out of rhythm.

You're a complete imbecile.

Roddickominator
06-28-2010, 12:36 AM
You're a complete imbecile.

How about you make a point instead of hurling insults?

DualMedia
06-28-2010, 12:40 AM
Words aren't illegal.

they can be! if I threaten in words thats illegal. Using a racial slur is under verbal assault.

KaiserT
06-28-2010, 12:43 AM
How about you make a point instead of hurling insults?

You're not worth wasting a coherent argument on.

Your argument
1. You should be able to say whatever you like on court, including racist (illegal) remarks to your opponent.
2. Taking an injury timeout to disrupt an opponents rhythm is worse than making racist remarks.

You are an ignorant.....................

SelvenluvJo
06-28-2010, 01:03 AM
Daniel Koellerer:worship::worship:

Glaciator
06-28-2010, 01:06 AM
Gooood.... he's such an asshole :rolleyes:

Roddickominator
06-28-2010, 01:17 AM
Your argument
1. You should be able to say whatever you like on court, including racist (illegal) remarks to your opponent.
2. Taking an injury timeout to disrupt an opponents rhythm is worse than making racist remarks.

Much better. But you have failed to explain WHY my view is wrong.

It's entirely possible for a player to completely ignore a slur thrown in his direction. He can do nothing about his opponent taking an injury timeout that stops play.

Why penalize one form of disruptive tactics(though it's arguable that words alone only disrupt if you let it), but do nothing about the other? It makes no sense.

Orka_n
06-28-2010, 02:09 AM
Words aren't illegal.You think you're allowed by law to say anything you like because of Freedom of speech? Wrong. Verbal abuse is illegal. So is threats. And racist remarks? Very much so.

Why is it worse than time-wasting?I won't even bother to answer that.

emotion
06-28-2010, 02:53 AM
What a dick. Still, how is it illegal?

njnetswill
06-28-2010, 03:20 AM
Much better. But you have failed to explain WHY my view is wrong.

It's entirely possible for a player to completely ignore a slur thrown in his direction. He can do nothing about his opponent taking an injury timeout that stops play.

Why penalize one form of disruptive tactics(though it's arguable that words alone only disrupt if you let it), but do nothing about the other? It makes no sense.

When was the last time racial slurs were used in your direction? I don't think you understand how racial comments go way beyond just tennis and gamesmanship, it bring a dimension of ugliness that far surpasses two guys playing mind games while playing tennis.

Are you seriously going to tell me that having an opponent take an injury timeout will be more upsetting?

Chip_s_m
06-28-2010, 03:51 AM
You think you're allowed by law to say anything you like because of Freedom of speech? Wrong. Verbal abuse is illegal. So is threats. And racist remarks? Very much so.

This is the case in many countries but not all. Hate speech isn't illegal in the US, for example. It's protected under the First Amendment. I just pulled up Wikipedia's article on hate speech and it has a pretty good breakdown of how laws vary worldwide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech

That said, the ATP has it's own rules, which hopefully will be enforced if this incident is true.

Roddickominator
06-28-2010, 04:07 AM
When was the last time racial slurs were used in your direction? I don't think you understand how racial comments go way beyond just tennis and gamesmanship, it bring a dimension of ugliness that far surpasses two guys playing mind games while playing tennis.

Are you seriously going to tell me that having an opponent take an injury timeout will be more upsetting?

Maybe guys shouldn't be able to yell "come on!" after winning points because it might "upset" the other player.

Seriously, it's ridiculous. Everyone gets called names since they were children. Many of us develop a thicker skin and couldn't care less about some idiot talking trash.

I think it just comes down to people thinking that a person using racist statements deserves anything that comes to them. I don't necessarily disagree. But when it comes to the actual game of tennis....a person faking an injury is a more egregious on-court offense in terms of actually affecting play, and should be dealt with accordingly.

Lee
06-28-2010, 06:49 AM
Maybe guys shouldn't be able to yell "come on!" after winning points because it might "upset" the other player.

Seriously, it's ridiculous. Everyone gets called names since they were children. Many of us develop a thicker skin and couldn't care less about some idiot talking trash.


Pity you can't tell the difference of name calling from racial slur. You are soooo ignorant, stupid, and idoitic.

See, I called you ignorant/stupid/being an idiot, this is name calling because of what you post here. This is a response to your action, what you said/did, not because of your race or color of your skin or which country you come from, etc etc.

Roddickominator
06-28-2010, 07:29 AM
Pity you can't tell the difference of name calling from racial slur.

Because in all actuality, they are the same thing. They are both meant to demean, insult, and humiliate someone.

Sure, you cannot change your color or race. Some people are also just stupid and cannot do anything about it. You apparently think I am an "idiot"....maybe it's something that I cannot control. I don't see the point in making a racial slur worse than any other type of insult in this situation....they all have the same intention.

And all of this is beside the point. This isn't a case of any kind of institutional racism(which is actually harmful)...it's just the case of an idiot talking trash to play a mind game in a tennis match. On an actual tennis court(which is what i'm concerned with), throwing out a racial slur affects little of the actual match unless the "victim" can't deal with it and loses his concentration. But there are any number of things that happen in a given match that can have the same effect. My point is...players time-wasting, getting coaching, faking injuries, etc are all more serious offenses ON A TENNIS COURT because they actually have a physical effect on the match.

It'd be nice if just ONE of you would actually make a point other than resorting to ad hominem attacks. I'd appreciate a good argument that isn't based on insults and emotional responses.

Cat9
06-28-2010, 08:47 AM
Using a racial slur is under verbal assault

No such thing in the US, anyway. Now, if someone physically assaults someone while hurling racial insults, the slurs can help build a case for a 'hate crime'. But the slur, itself, isn't a crime.

tkr
06-28-2010, 12:49 PM
Whine whine, he called me a monkey.

What is there to be upset about? Why should he bother what other pepole call him? It's not like he is a monkey, so what's the fuzz about?

JolánGagó
06-28-2010, 03:45 PM
This Silva guy is a twat, go play with your sista's Barbies.

Beat
06-28-2010, 03:54 PM
Why is it worse than time-wasting?

What is there to be upset about? Why should he bother what other pepole call him? It's not like he is a monkey, so what's the fuzz about?

This Silva guy is a twat, go play with your sista's Barbies.

ah, MTF, alway a source of intelligence and education.

Lee
06-28-2010, 04:11 PM
Because in all actuality, they are the same thing. They are both meant to demean, insult, and humiliate someone.

Sure, you cannot change your color or race. Some people are also just stupid and cannot do anything about it. You apparently think I am an "idiot"....maybe it's something that I cannot control. I don't see the point in making a racial slur worse than any other type of insult in this situation....they all have the same intention.

And all of this is beside the point. This isn't a case of any kind of institutional racism(which is actually harmful)...it's just the case of an idiot talking trash to play a mind game in a tennis match. On an actual tennis court(which is what i'm concerned with), throwing out a racial slur affects little of the actual match unless the "victim" can't deal with it and loses his concentration. But there are any number of things that happen in a given match that can have the same effect. My point is...players time-wasting, getting coaching, faking injuries, etc are all more serious offenses ON A TENNIS COURT because they actually have a physical effect on the match.

It'd be nice if just ONE of you would actually make a point other than resorting to ad hominem attacks. I'd appreciate a good argument that isn't based on insults and emotional responses.

When you insult someone base on his/her color or race, you're basically insulting the whole race or everyone with the same coloring. But I don't think you'll get the point because you will just file it under "emotional response". So I am done wasting my time with you.

Helevorn
06-28-2010, 04:43 PM
I just saw Koellerer losing against Del Bonis here in Reggio Emilia, and for the whole match, as usual, he acted like a fool, getting warnings from the umpire and almost getting to punch him in the face xD

btw he also offended the umpire in english (he was french and he said something even about his nationality, even if I think this is not racism :P) and argued with almost everyone, in english, german, italian and even spanish xD

seriously, someone should think about banning this guy from professional tennis..the match with Del Bonis (which he lost at third-set tie-break after calling the fisiotherapist being under 5-2) looked like an oral exhibition from a crazy guy in front of his crowd than a tennis encounter..

JolánGagó
06-28-2010, 04:51 PM
I just saw Koellerer losing against Del Bonis here in Reggio Emilia, and for the whole match, as usual, he acted like a fool, getting warnings from the umpire and almost getting to punch him in the face xD

btw he also offended the umpire in english (he was french and he said something even about his nationality, even if I think this is not racism :P) and argued with almost everyone, in english, german, italian and even spanish xD

seriously, someone should think about banning this guy from professional tennis..the match with Del Bonis (which he lost at third-set tie-break after calling the fisiotherapist being under 5-2) looked like an oral exhibition from a crazy guy in front of his crowd than a tennis encounter..

Bullshit.

Koellerer is a corageous and colourful player fallen prey of the Politically Correct.

mackerman
06-28-2010, 08:36 PM
Didn't Dani already get a 6 month suspension for his behavior a few years ago? It might be a permanent, or at least a 2 year ban if he is punished for this.

Helevorn
06-29-2010, 08:06 PM
Bullshit.

Koellerer is a corageous and colourful player fallen prey of the Politically Correct.

lolol he just lost 63 63 against #181 lukas rosol from czech republic in Braunschweig

idiot and also loser on the courts. ahahah poor koellerer

Sofonda Cox
06-29-2010, 10:02 PM
Maybe guys shouldn't be able to yell "come on!" after winning points because it might "upset" the other player.

Seriously, it's ridiculous. Everyone gets called names since they were children. Many of us develop a thicker skin and couldn't care less about some idiot talking trash.

I think it just comes down to people thinking that a person using racist statements deserves anything that comes to them. I don't necessarily disagree. But when it comes to the actual game of tennis....a person faking an injury is a more egregious on-court offense in terms of actually affecting play, and should be dealt with accordingly.

:spit:........