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Wimbledon R2: Nadal def. Haase 5-7 6-2 3-6 6-0 6-3

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Luinir
06-24-2010, 06:17 PM
Better than Federer, no? :)

octatennis
06-24-2010, 06:18 PM
lol

HKz
06-24-2010, 06:18 PM
Feel sorry for Haase because he played so well, but Nadal is certainly one to take advantage of any faults so congrats to him. Plus, I want him to play either Soderling or Murray.

Start da Game
06-24-2010, 06:19 PM
5-7, 6-2, 3-6, 6-0, 6-3

Myrre
06-24-2010, 06:19 PM
Søderling will beat this Nadal dude.

Billups85
06-24-2010, 06:19 PM
:bounce:

Foxy
06-24-2010, 06:19 PM
Spartaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

Priam
06-24-2010, 06:19 PM
Nadal always finds a way. Great match.

Ben.
06-24-2010, 06:20 PM
Phew! No more fucking about please. Thank you.

fsoica
06-24-2010, 06:20 PM
nadal is untouchable

paseo
06-24-2010, 06:20 PM
Never doubt that Nadal would win this, even for a second. Next.

misty1
06-24-2010, 06:20 PM
was really hoping for the upset here

River
06-24-2010, 06:20 PM
What's with the jacket??

philosophicalarf
06-24-2010, 06:20 PM
Haase opening three sets: exactly 80% first serve (aka nearly unbreakable)
Haase next 1.5 sets: 29% first serve (aka not worth showing up)


Whether it was his knee or a choke, only he knows.

spriwi
06-24-2010, 06:20 PM
Nice play from Rafa in the last two sets, he really got into it :yeah:

Mjau!
06-24-2010, 06:21 PM
Haase winning those sets felt great!

Rafa was let off the hook by Haase's unfortunate knee injury. :sad:

Clydey
06-24-2010, 06:21 PM
Haase's serve went AWOL in the final two sets. That was the difference. Although, Nadal really exposed Robin's movement to the backhand side. He really struggled with Nadal's ball slicing away from him on that side.

NADALbULLS
06-24-2010, 06:21 PM
Nadal is like "Hi Roger, do you like my 5 setter? Better looking than yours, no?" HAHAHHAHA whatever Federer does Nadal does betterer.

Mjau!
06-24-2010, 06:22 PM
Nadal's on court behaviour is so annoying :o

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-24-2010, 06:22 PM
Thank God Rafa won, I was so scared. Good luck to Haase next tours. You are also a great player.

VamoSSSS!!!!

oranges
06-24-2010, 06:22 PM
Health permitting, Haase will be back to top 50 where he belongs soon enough and then we'll see where he can take it from there. Inspired performance, he should take only positives from it :hatoff:

alter ego
06-24-2010, 06:22 PM
Nadal is like "Hi Roger, do you like my 5 setter? Better looking than yours, no?" HAHAHHAHA whatever Federer does Nadal does betterer.

:retard:

HKz
06-24-2010, 06:22 PM
Nadal is like "Hi Roger, do you like my 5 setter? Better looking than yours, no?" HAHAHHAHA whatever Federer does Nadal does betterer.

Because somehow a win is not the same as a win...?

Ben.
06-24-2010, 06:23 PM
Was really a case of Rafa playing two bad games in the whole match and it cost him two sets. Unreal. Good news is it was only two and a half hours.

Mjau!
06-24-2010, 06:23 PM
Haase opening three sets: exactly 80% first serve
Haase next 1.5 sets: 29% first serve.


Whether it was his knee or a choke, only he knows.

Haase was on top pre-injury, Rafael didn't win fair & square!

NADALbULLS
06-24-2010, 06:23 PM
How long was this match, it seems like under 2hrs.

rocketassist
06-24-2010, 06:23 PM
Fedal suck so hard currently and need to be schooled out of here. Nadal did play well 4th and 5th mind.

ChuckNorrisFan
06-24-2010, 06:23 PM
Actually Haase was pretty sharp today, like 90% first serve in the first set.

straitup
06-24-2010, 06:23 PM
Never seen Rafa pump himself up as much as he did today...amazingly fast paced for a Nadal 5-setter.

Haase looked great the first 3 sets, definitely needs to work on keeping a consistent level and maybe returning a tad bit better

ossie
06-24-2010, 06:23 PM
rafa looked disgusted with himself today lol, doesnt matter this match will only make him stronger against future serve-bots

HKz
06-24-2010, 06:24 PM
Fedal suck so hard currently and need to be schooled out of here. Nadal did play well 4th and 5th mind.

Well time will tell in the next few rounds.

rafa_maniac
06-24-2010, 06:24 PM
First 5 setter for Rafa since last year's Oz Open final and he relished it. This Wimbledon is just awesome so far with the challengers stepping up and all the epic matches. Haase played out of his mind for most of the first three sets, Rafa was pretty damn good too but a couple of key errors ended up costing him 2 sets, then Haase's level dropped in the 4th and Rafa went into full throttle till the end. Good for him to have a battle early in the tournament I think, same deal against Kendrick, Soderling and Gulbis in years past. VAMOS! :cool:

anon57
06-24-2010, 06:24 PM
:sad:Robin, an upset would have been great for Robin and would really have gotten him back on track after the knee injury. But once the 1st serve% started dropping Nadal started dominating more and more. Still glad so see Robin play a good match:yeah:

green25814
06-24-2010, 06:24 PM
Looks like Hasse was hampered by something at the end.

Shame, he might've won this otherwise.

naomie70
06-24-2010, 06:25 PM
What a great match! Really good points! I like it :)
Good match Robin! :hug:
And congrats Rafa! :)

kindling
06-24-2010, 06:25 PM
Shame, Haase could have had this.

NADALbULLS
06-24-2010, 06:25 PM
142 minutes.

Nadal had 2 more winners than Haase.

viruzzz
06-24-2010, 06:26 PM
Well... When he played very well I said it, I had no problem.
But now I can say that he doesn't deserve to be in 3R.
Lucky bastard...

paseo
06-24-2010, 06:26 PM
Nadal is like "Hi Roger, do you like my 5 setter? Better looking than yours, no?" HAHAHHAHA whatever Federer does Nadal does betterer.

:lol:
Why am I laughing at this?

NADALbULLS
06-24-2010, 06:26 PM
WOW 42 winners and 12 unforced errors for Nadal.

M4RC
06-24-2010, 06:27 PM
Entertaining to see, quick match and a NID result. This match was needed by Rafa to give him rhythm and confidence. Tricky rival to play against on this surface. Inmense serve.

Rafa's fastest five setter? Most probably.

Søderling will beat this Nadal dude.

Yeah, just like he did this past month on RG.

NADALbULLS
06-24-2010, 06:29 PM
Nadal served 2 double-faults and he was broken on each occasion.

Sophocles
06-24-2010, 06:29 PM
Once again Nadal saved by an opponent's injury.

Start da Game
06-24-2010, 06:29 PM
Spartaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

hell yeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! !!!!!

http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3060000000049343.JPG?0.8456768619858706

madmax
06-24-2010, 06:29 PM
All luck this disgusting moonballer:vomit: What a crappy result

henke007
06-24-2010, 06:30 PM
Sod won't crumble like Haase did in the 4th and 5th set.

M4RC
06-24-2010, 06:30 PM
Thank God Rafa won, I was so scared. Good luck to Haase next tours. You are also a great player.

VamoSSSS!!!!

:rolleyes:

From a Nadal supporter.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
06-24-2010, 06:30 PM
:yawn: at the result.
Not a bad result for Haase though. :yeah:

kinski76
06-24-2010, 06:30 PM
Thank God Rafa won, I was so scared. Good luck to Haase next tours. You are also a great player.

VamoSSSS!!!!

:hug: You're cute.

Billups85
06-24-2010, 06:30 PM
Once again Nadal saved by an opponent's injury.



:haha::haha::haha:

misty1
06-24-2010, 06:30 PM
Entertaining to see, quick match and a NID result. This match was needed by Rafa to give him rhythm and confidence. Tricky rival to play against on this surface. Inmense serve.

Rafa's fastest five setter? Most probably.



Yeah, just like he did this past month on RG.

i dont know about NID

Manequin75
06-24-2010, 06:30 PM
Haase opening three sets: exactly 80% first serve (aka nearly unbreakable)
Haase next 1.5 sets: 29% first serve (aka not worth showing up)


Whether it was his knee or a choke, only he knows.

Neither knee or choke. Law of averages Ever heard of that.?

No one could keep 80 percent serving at that speed for that long.

And then pressure builds.

But this dude served lights out first set
Rafa just stood there all of the first set - no chance to even move let alone get his racquet on a serve return.

Sophocles
06-24-2010, 06:30 PM
Nadal's on court behaviour is so annoying :o

I'm amazed he doesn't get more shots rifled straight at him.

kooties
06-24-2010, 06:31 PM
All luck this disgusting moonballer:vomit: What a crappy result

moonballer? seriously?

M4RC
06-24-2010, 06:32 PM
Fedal suck so hard currently and need to be schooled out of here. Nadal did play well 4th and 5th mind.

Nadal has played quite well, really inspired at times. The thing is that Haase's serves from 1st to 3rd sets were surreal.

Ben.
06-24-2010, 06:32 PM
Sod won't crumble like Haase did in the 4th and 5th set.

True, but Soderling wont be playing with no pressure like Haase. Silly to compare this with a possible future match.

Langers
06-24-2010, 06:32 PM
What's with the jacket??
What? Pretty standard jacket, looks cool.

Manequin75
06-24-2010, 06:32 PM
Haase was on top pre-injury, Rafael didn't win fair & square!

Doesnt matter....who's next?

Certinfy
06-24-2010, 06:33 PM
In SoderKing I definitely believe now.

NADALbULLS
06-24-2010, 06:33 PM
Nadal's ball-striking in this match is the best he has ever hit the ball in all his years at Wimbledon, unbelievable performance, it shows how his game as evolved to the point of having a touch of Agassi in his game.

solowyn
06-24-2010, 06:34 PM
http://www.wimbledon.org/images/pics/large/b_04_nadal_132_aeltc_m_hangst.jpg

Sophocles
06-24-2010, 06:34 PM
Sod won't crumble like Haase did in the 4th and 5th set.

Soderling won't need a 4th or 5th set.

joplin
06-24-2010, 06:34 PM
Sod won't crumble like Haase did in the 4th and 5th set.
would you shut up with this Soderling, just how many times does he need to get his ass whipped by Nadal so you tards would finally stop?
Haase rode his luck today, stealing two sets from a player who dominated this match, was more than enough. no one can repeat 90% first serve from now on

M4RC
06-24-2010, 06:35 PM
All luck this disgusting moonballer:vomit: What a crappy result

I have the answer you are looking for: today's Haase would have defeated Federer in 4.

i dont know about NID

Yeah, it was NID. Nadal delivered a bagel in the 4th so Haase as always been very far far away from the victory.

joplin
06-24-2010, 06:36 PM
Soderling won't need a 4th or 5th set.

yes, because he won´t make it

ORGASMATRON
06-24-2010, 06:36 PM
nice choke from haasse. nowhere to be seen in the last 2 sets. i guess he was satisfied he could win 2 sets against nadal :o

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-24-2010, 06:36 PM
http://www.wimbledon.org/images/pics/large/b_04_nadal_132_aeltc_m_hangst.jpg

:hearts::hearts:

HKz
06-24-2010, 06:37 PM
I'm amazed he doesn't get more shots rifled straight at him.

What still baffles me is how people attack and absolutely hate Murray for his fist pumps and intensity and think nothing of it when Nadal/Hewitt/etc do it. Just because he doesn't have a slam doesn't mean he has no right to be pumped up. I'm no Murray fan, but it is definitely disrespectful to talk shit about him for his tactics and not point the same thing for other players. And I am also amazed that Nadal doesn't get more angry players at him. Sure he does have to be respected, but Hewitt wasn't respected with his intensity, among other players.

oranges
06-24-2010, 06:37 PM
Haase rode his luck today, stealing two sets from a player who dominated this match, was more than enough. no one can repeat 90% first serve from now on

Call me crazy, but I'd think someone who won two sets with breaks has hardly shown only big serves. It wasn't luck either. Give the guy his well-deserved props, it won't take anyhting from Nadal, on the contrary.

Start da Game
06-24-2010, 06:37 PM
http://www.wimbledon.org/images/pics/large/b_04_nadal_132_aeltc_m_hangst.jpg

haase touched the lion inside.......

HKz
06-24-2010, 06:37 PM
Nadal's ball-striking in this match is the best he has ever hit the ball in all his years at Wimbledon, unbelievable performance, it shows how his game as evolved to the point of having a touch of Agassi in his game.

You are the epitome of a true ignorant Rafatard.

Now get out RFK/rafawon09usopen/rafawonCYGS, we know you're just another multi.

NADALbULLS
06-24-2010, 06:38 PM
Winning grand slams is much more fun when you have a short 5-setter along the way, this is the way to play slam tennis, not all these straight set borefests.

Persimmon
06-24-2010, 06:39 PM
Rafa won't win another tournament until the 2011 clay season.:o

Langers
06-24-2010, 06:39 PM
Nadal's ball-striking in this match is the best he has ever hit the ball in all his years at Wimbledon, unbelievable performance, it shows how his game as evolved to the point of having a touch of Agassi in his game.
You thought he was that good? I didn't see it TBH.

Sapeod
06-24-2010, 06:39 PM
Nadull will lose to either Soderling or Murray :)

Manequin75
06-24-2010, 06:40 PM
What still baffles me is how people attack and absolutely hate Murray for his fist pumps and intensity and think nothing of it when Nadal/Hewitt/etc do it. Just because he doesn't have a slam doesn't mean he has no right to be pumped up. I'm no Murray fan, but it is definitely disrespectful to talk shit about him for his tactics and not point the same thing for other players. And I am also amazed that Nadal doesn't get more angry players at him. Sure he does have to be respected, but Hewitt wasn't respected with his intensity, among other players.

Rafa has been doing this for years now in tight matches. Players kmow its not directed to anybody else but he is doing it for himself to pump himself on. Nadal is way too humble to direct it to others. Players know what rafa is all about. So its diferent when he does it. Hewitt is not the most humble guy out there u know

NADALbULLS
06-24-2010, 06:40 PM
You are the epitome of a true ignorant Rafatard.

Now get out RFK/rafawon09usopen/rafawonCYGS, we know you're just another multi.

Did you even watch the match? He was killing that ball like Agassi, going all out down the line with 100% power off both wings. This is the new Nadal. I don't think you were watching, or you are just really bitter that he didn't lose.

Sunset of Age
06-24-2010, 06:40 PM
Congrats to Rafa, a tough win, might well be just what he needed. :hatoff:

Haase showed very clearly why he once was a (close to) top 50-player in this match before his year-long knee injury threw him off, and despite his disappointment of losing today, he should only take positives from it! :yeah:
I expected him to put up a fight, but taking two sets from Rafa? No-f*cking-way! :eek:

Most impressive was Rafa's mental fortitude, once again. It's amazing how he keeps being concentrated, whatever the odds, whereas Robin had clear mental let-downs after he won the 1st and the 3rd set. A problem on which the Dutch commentator very rightly commented that it needs further working on from him and his coach, as he has the game, and judging on his performance today, I think it should indeed be possible for Robin to get back to the top-50. Hopefully there's nothing seriously wrong with him, as he started limping a bit after that 3rd set...

M4RC
06-24-2010, 06:41 PM
Soderling won't need a 4th or 5th set.

Definitely not. Rafa in straights.

You are the epitome of a true ignorant Rafatard.

Now get out RFK/rafawon09usopen/rafawonCYGS, we know you're just another multi.

He is trolling a 'lil bit but Nadal has striked the ball really well, neat and flat, changing the pace and directions.

Matt01
06-24-2010, 06:41 PM
Haase was on top pre-injury, Rafael didn't win fair & square!


:lol:

Love the bitterness.

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-24-2010, 06:41 PM
Give the guy his well-deserved props, it won't take anyhting from Nadal, on the contrary.

I agree with you, Haase is also amazing player. :D

Persimmon
06-24-2010, 06:41 PM
Nadull will lose to either Soderling or Murray :)

Agreed. Totally:o

Ben.
06-24-2010, 06:42 PM
What still baffles me is how people attack and absolutely hate Murray for his fist pumps and intensity and think nothing of it when Nadal/Hewitt/etc do it. Just because he doesn't have a slam doesn't mean he has no right to be pumped up. I'm no Murray fan, but it is definitely disrespectful to talk shit about him for his tactics and not point the same thing for other players. And I am also amazed that Nadal doesn't get more angry players at him. Sure he does have to be respected, but Hewitt wasn't respected with his intensity, among other players.

I must admit I agree, seems to be a double standard. Their on court emotion is part of the reason I'm a fan of all three

Langers
06-24-2010, 06:42 PM
nice choke from haasse. nowhere to be seen in the last 2 sets. i guess he was satisfied he could win 2 sets against nadal :o
Had nothing to do with the fact he stopped serving out of a tree?

You are so clueless it's not funny. You make a fool of yourself in every thread.

ORGASMATRON
06-24-2010, 06:43 PM
Nadull will lose to either Soderling or Murray :)

it was obvious that a big hitter who actually had balls would beat nadal. nadal couldnt handle it when haase served big and hit flat ground strokes. haase was just to scared to finish off the pusher. im positive murray or soderling will do this.

NADALbULLS
06-24-2010, 06:43 PM
You thought he was that good? I didn't see it TBH.

Yes that good. I think his ability is a lot better than last time he played Federer on grass. He is totally different now, a lot flatter hitting. Also compare Roland Garros 08 to Roland Garros 10 and he is hitting flatter even on clay. But on grass especially he looks like he's going for broke on nearly every shot.

@Sweet Cleopatra
06-24-2010, 06:43 PM
Agreed. Totally:o

You again afraid of jinx :cool:

Arkulari
06-24-2010, 06:43 PM
Rafa wins a relatively comfortable 5 setter and he's a Spartan, Roger wins a tight one and he's a mug... :rolleyes:

This result was NID, Haase played awesomely for two sets but at the end it wasn't enough to beat a Rafa that was serving well and hitting the ball cleanly, with a lot of power

Best thing: this was a relatively short match considering it was a 5-setter and that can only benefit Rafa, he got a tough test but didn't have to stay 5 hours on court :yeah:

Start da Game
06-24-2010, 06:43 PM
Nadull will lose to either Soderling or Murray :)

he will hunt them down like a lion.......they wouldn't know where to run and save their lives.......

HKz
06-24-2010, 06:43 PM
Definitely not. Rafa in straights.



He is trolling a 'lil bit but Nadal has striked the ball really well, neat and flat, changing the pace and directions.

I know he did play from the baseline very well, even in the sets he lost. He was certainly going to have chances if he could keep holding serve.

M4RC
06-24-2010, 06:44 PM
Rafa won't win another tournament until the 2011 clay season.:o

Yeah, and Federer will win every tournament he enters like he's been doing since AO, including (of course) Madrid and Paris.

You suck at predicting, stop doing it :o

Ben.
06-24-2010, 06:44 PM
Agreed. Totally:o

Lol you are a pessimist, or a troll. I guess you didn't see the match. Rafa played two bad games all match and it cost him two sets. He hit 12 unforced errors all match.

MIMIC
06-24-2010, 06:44 PM
Interesting to see the top 3 seeds all having to play 5 sets before the 3rd round.

kindling
06-24-2010, 06:46 PM
Nadal's on court behaviour is so annoying :o

I second that. His enthusiasm used to be endearing, but now he just overdoes it every time he gets a point.

scarecrows
06-24-2010, 06:46 PM
very good match from Nadal
it took Haase a superhuman effort to break him twice and win those sets

Ben.
06-24-2010, 06:47 PM
it was obvious that a big hitter who actually had balls would beat nadal. nadal couldnt handle it when haase served big and hit flat ground strokes. haase was just to scared to finish off the pusher. im positive murray or soderling will do this.

Obvously you didn't see the match, or you saw it through your Fed specs...

sheva07
06-24-2010, 06:48 PM
Proud of Haase's performance today. Showed in the last two grand slams he will come back properly.

HKz
06-24-2010, 06:48 PM
Rafa has been doing this for years now in tight matches. Players kmow its not directed to anybody else but he is doing it for himself to pump himself on. Nadal is way too humble to direct it to others. Players know what rafa is all about. So its diferent when he does it. Hewitt is not the most humble guy out there u know

I'm not saying Nadal has no right to do this. He has all the right in fact. I'm saying, if you don't bash him for his intensity, then don't bash other players such as Murray for their intensity. There are plenty of Murray haters on this forum complaining about his fist pumps and "Come On!"s yet they are absolutely in love with Nadal. Slamless or not, top player or not, all pros should be respected, especially something like their intensity. They are trying to be the best they can be. There are emotionless players, and emotional players. Both should be respected.

ORGASMATRON
06-24-2010, 06:48 PM
Obvously you didn't see the match, or you saw it through your Fed specs...

ok nadaltard tell me then how you saw it through your expert eyes. i may even learn something.

M4RC
06-24-2010, 06:50 PM
it was obvious that a big hitter who actually had balls would beat nadal. nadal couldnt handle it when haase served big and hit flat ground strokes. haase was just to scared to finish off the pusher. im positive murray or soderling will do this.

Soderling was crushed on RG clay. According to MTF standards, clay was Soderling's best surface and he was the #2/#3 there. But as I said, he was destroyed.

Now we are on grass. Obviously :rolleyes:, according to MTF standards, grass is his favourite surface and the one on which he delivers all of his unbelievable greatness.

MTF is so obvious when the discussion involves Nadal that it hurts.

Corey Feldman
06-24-2010, 06:52 PM
no point in playing a great match if you are still gonna fold like a cheap tent ffs :rolleyes:

Nadal was there for the taking, the furrowed brow was more prominent than usual :lol:

wouldnt have been long before he started punching his knee's

I second that. His enthusiasm used to be endearing, but now he just overdoes it every time he gets a point.I third that. then i've been saying that about his on court antics for years

but its "endearing" when Rafa the fighter does it, unlike that asshole Murray.

R.Federer
06-24-2010, 06:53 PM
WOW 42 winners and 12 unforced errors for Nadal.


and this still went to FIVE sets?!! :worship:

Mjau!
06-24-2010, 06:54 PM
Lol you are a pessimist, or a troll. I guess you didn't see the match. Rafa played two bad games all match and it cost him two sets. He hit 12 unforced errors all match.

Right, and Federer only hit like 40 in 50+ games vs Falla. :spit:

HKz
06-24-2010, 06:54 PM
Soderling was crushed on RG clay. According to MTF standards, clay was Soderling's best surface and he was the #2/#3 there. But as I said, he was destroyed.

Now we are on grass. Obviously :rolleyes:, according to MTF standards, grass is his favourite surface and the one on which he delivers all of his unbelievable greatness.

MTF is so obvious when the discussion involves Nadal that it hurts.

Well obvious is if they meet, it certainly won't be a cakewalk for Rafael. Big servers have always been an issue for him regardless the surface.

kooties
06-24-2010, 06:56 PM
no point in playing a great match if you are still gonna fold like a cheap tent ffs :rolleyes:

.

can't great tennis be enjoyed for what it is?

Matt01
06-24-2010, 06:56 PM
Well obvious is if they meet, it certainly won't be a cakewalk for Rafael. Big servers have always been an issue for him regardless the surface.


Big servers are an issue for practically everyone on grass, Sherlock.

ETA: Roger has a big serve and we all know the H2H...

ORGASMATRON
06-24-2010, 06:57 PM
Soderling was crushed on RG clay. According to MTF standards, clay was Soderling's best surface and he was the #2/#3 there. But as I said, he was destroyed.

Now we are on grass. Obviously :rolleyes:, according to MTF standards, grass is his favourite surface and the one on which he delivers all of his unbelievable greatness.

MTF is so obvious when the discussion involves Nadal that it hurts.

well im not MTF dont worry about that. clay may be soderlings favorite surface, but that doesnt mean he doesnt have a better change against nadal on grass. he will do better than RG if he is to face nadal at wimby, and you can quote me on that.

Ben.
06-24-2010, 06:58 PM
ok nadaltard tell me then how you saw it through your expert eyes. i may even learn something.

Lol, you know you just might. Rafa played a solid match, far from a bad one. Haase served bombs for 3 straight sets. Rafa played two bad games all match, seemed to get tight and serve a couple of double faults and this allowed Haase to take both sets. Rafa hit 12 unforced errors, was strking the ball very well, dominated most rallys. Haase's groundies mostly torubled Nadal only when he let them rip with largely low percentage shots. If Haase didn't throw in a poor opening game second set he may have taken the match. He pulled up in pain a couple of times and his 1st serve % dropped from then on.

I like the way I'm a Nadaltard just for calling the match how it was.

Arkulari
06-24-2010, 06:58 PM
Big servers are an issue for practically everyone on grass, Sherlock.

ETA: Roger has a big serve and we all know the H2H...

tall, big servers with huge groundstrokes and two handed backhands are not Rafa's fave match-up ;)

kooties
06-24-2010, 06:59 PM
Big servers are an issue for practically everyone on grass, Sherlock.

ETA: Roger has a big serve and we all know the H2H...

A big serve is never a liability anywhere.

Start da Game
06-24-2010, 07:00 PM
gulbis came out blasting serves at 130 mph in 2008.......what happened? he was sent back packing with the same speed........

NADALbULLS
06-24-2010, 07:01 PM
This is the most aggressive Nadal has ever played by a mile, he's literally got some Agassi in his mindset now, way better than 2008.

Matt01
06-24-2010, 07:02 PM
tall, big servers with huge groundstrokes and two handed backhands are not Rafa's fave match-up ;)


For example?

Del Potro is currently injured.

His H2H with Söderling is quite good.

HKz
06-24-2010, 07:02 PM
Big servers are an issue for practically everyone on grass, Sherlock.

ETA: Roger has a big serve and we all know the H2H...

No shit, maybe read the posts prior to me so you don't cry for not knowing the context of the discussion.

ORGASMATRON
06-24-2010, 07:03 PM
Lol, you know you just might. Rafa played a solid match, far from a bad one. Haase served bombs for 3 straight sets. Rafa played two bad games all match, seemed to get tight and serve a couple of double faults and this allowed Haase to take both sets. Rafa hit 12 unforced errors, was strking the ball very well, dominated most rallys. Haase's groundies mostly torubled Nadal only when he let them rip with largely low percentage shots. If Haase didn't throw in a poor opening game second set he may have taken the match. He pulled up in pain a couple of times and his 1st serve % dropped from then on.

I like the way I'm a Nadaltard just for calling the match how it was.

you didnt call it how it was. in fact you didnt call it at all.

whatever happened to haase, physical or mental, you just admitted that his level dropped in the 4th and 5th. but anyone could see that. when he pressured nadal with big serves and ground strokes nadal came up short. more experienced players like murray and soderling wont let up, and then its bye-bye nadal :wavey:

HKz
06-24-2010, 07:05 PM
For example?

Del Potro is currently injured.

His H2H with Söderling is quite good.

Yeah because they have played outside of clay a lot haven't they. The one match Nadal match won outside of clay against Robin, he was nearly beaten and this was years ago.

Arkulari
06-24-2010, 07:06 PM
For example?

Del Potro is currently injured.

His H2H with Söderling is quite good.

I'm not saying he's ALWAYS losing to those, in fact he wins more times than not, but those guys usually give him a harder time (in every surface) than let's say a short guy with a one handed backhand ;)

people like Gulbis, Soderling, Del Potro, Cilic are bound to give him more trouble in HC than many other kinds of players

One exception to the rule is Kolya, but that's just because that guy runs points even more than Rafa does and takes the ball very early, same as Nalbandian did when he was a top player

bottomline: Rafa is not invincible, he will win most matches by grit, determination and good play but it is possible to beat him outside of clay, the question is: will anyone step up to the plate and do it?

Ben.
06-24-2010, 07:08 PM
you didnt call it how it was. in fact you didnt call it at all.

whatever happened to haase, physical or mental, you just admitted that his level dropped in the 4th and 5th. but anyone could see that. when he pressured nadal with big serves and ground strokes nadal came up short. more experienced players like murray and soderling wont let up, and then its bye-bye nadal :wavey:

Lol, really he managed to pressure Nadal for two whole games. Nadal held every single service game other than that relatively easily. It's not as if Rafa was on the back foot, hanging in there just playing defence.

ORGASMATRON
06-24-2010, 07:08 PM
No shit, maybe read the posts prior to me so you don't cry for not knowing the context of the discussion.

dont you just hate it when people do that? they should have penalties for that.

if you ever get ignored by me then, one of the reasons may be that you didnt bother to take what i said in context. just so you know.

Topspin Forehand
06-24-2010, 07:09 PM
Vamos Nadal. I agree with the Agassi comparison. Nadal refuses to get too far behind the baseline and is hitting like Agassi. I think Nadal's serve is more effective than Agassi on the grass as well. That slice serve on the ad side is killer on grass.

Sophocles
06-24-2010, 07:09 PM
yes, because he won´t make it

Great comeback. Who are you, Oscar Wilde?

moon language
06-24-2010, 07:09 PM
Haase was serving out of his mind for a while. Impressive.

FedEXpress91
06-24-2010, 07:11 PM
Wait wait so when fed goes up against an inspired opponent whose painting the lines and playing the match of his life and it goes to 5 sets the nadal tards come screaming in proclaiming that he's done he's a mug etc. etc. yet when rafa has the same thing happen to him they anoint him a spartan? These nadal fans on here take tardism to a whole new level.

ORGASMATRON
06-24-2010, 07:12 PM
Lol, really he managed to pressure Nadal for two whole games. Nadal held every single service game other than that relatively easily. It's not as if Rafa was on the back foot, hanging in there just playing defence.

:lol: the last time i checked haase won 2 sets, not 2 games. soderling or murray will win 3. now im done with this conversation.

Start da Game
06-24-2010, 07:17 PM
I'm not saying he's ALWAYS losing to those, in fact he wins more times than not, but those guys usually give him a harder time (in every surface) than let's say a short guy with a one handed backhand ;)

people like Gulbis, Soderling, Del Potro, Cilic are bound to give him more trouble in HC than many other kinds of players

One exception to the rule is Kolya, but that's just because that guy runs points even more than Rafa does and takes the ball very early, same as Nalbandian did when he was a top player

bottomline: Rafa is not invincible, he will win most matches by grit, determination and good play but it is possible to beat him outside of clay, the question is: will anyone step up to the plate and do it?

no one is invincible.......and no one here said rafa is invincible.......we all know who is what when they played at their fullest capacity........

Ben.
06-24-2010, 07:17 PM
:lol: the last time i checked haase won 2 sets, not 2 games. soderling or murray will win 3. now im done with this conversation.

I like the way you were just preaching about taking things out of context and then do it yourself, good job guy.

peribsen
06-24-2010, 07:18 PM
well im not MTF dont worry about that. clay may be soderlings favorite surface, but that doesnt mean he doesnt have a better change against nadal on grass. he will do better than RG if he is to face nadal at wimby, and you can quote me on that.

Well, you're the one who gave us a promise Nadal would never make it to the SF in USO-09 (you added you thought he might still have a 4th round in him), so maybe some of us aren´t all that impressed with your predictions....

oranges
06-24-2010, 07:18 PM
One exception to the rule is Kolya, but that's just because that guy runs points even more than Rafa does and takes the ball very early, same as Nalbandian did when he was a top player


Kolya doesn't have a big serve, but that is one tremendous two-hander he has. Having a BH that can sustain the onslaught and preferably return with interest seems crucial to me for giving Nadal problems. Serve is just a bonus. I'd even put striking the ball early as more of an advantage than a big serve in mathcups with Nadal, but not many aside from Kolya and Nalby do it as well.

Start da Game
06-24-2010, 07:25 PM
Kolya doesn't have a big serve, but that is one tremendous two-hander he has. Having a BH that can sustain the onslaught and preferably return with interest seems crucial to me for giving Nadal problems. Serve is just a bonus. I'd even put striking the ball early as more of an advantage than a big serve in mathcups with Nadal, but not many aside from Kolya and Nalby do it as well.

djokovic and del potro to an extent.......no one else.......it is a myth that rafa's tennis doesn't work against double handers........when rafa is playing well with full fitness, his off forehands work like dream and that is when he will have the opponents running like rabbits, opening up the court and angles beautifully.......

davydenko and the rest just took advantage of nadal's injuries........davydenko was fortunate to face rafa when he was returning from injuries and not at all in the zone.......

p.s. del potro, after he won that us open, is yet to face rafa when he is fit and playing well.......nadal proved that he has an answer to every kind of game........he stopped djokovic cold in the tracks when the djoker was having the best season of his career thus far in 2008.......

davydenko, soderbash etc. are just time-being entertainers who chip in when the top players aren't doing well.......

ORGASMATRON
06-24-2010, 07:27 PM
Well, you're the one who gave us a promise Nadal would never make it to the SF in USO-09 (you added you thought he might still have a 4th round in him), so maybe some of us aren´t all that impressed with your predictions....

i dont remember what i said back then because i dont live in the past. if i said that i wouldnt have been the first to get a prediction wrong at MTF ;) if you go read my blog you would see that i predicted del potro would crush nadal in the USO semis and thats exactly what he did. so actually i feel pretty good about my predictions.

moon language
06-24-2010, 07:29 PM
Wait wait so when fed goes up against an inspired opponent whose painting the lines and playing the match of his life and it goes to 5 sets the nadal tards come screaming in proclaiming that he's done he's a mug etc. etc. yet when rafa has the same thing happen to him they anoint him a spartan? These nadal fans on here take tardism to a whole new level.

These days it seems like the Fedtards moaning about his play more than anyone else. Actually it's been that way for a couple years now with the "Fed should retire" threads and, well, Linkmage.

Matt01
06-24-2010, 07:35 PM
Yeah because they have played outside of clay a lot haven't they. The one match Nadal match won outside of clay against Robin, he was nearly beaten and this was years ago.


Excuses :yawn:

Start da Game
06-24-2010, 07:37 PM
Excuses :yawn:

clay is discounted because nadal was born with clay in his blood which gives him supernatural powers on the surface.......i am surprised that you din't know it.......we should have only non-clay results when comparing nadal with his opponents.......

Halba
06-24-2010, 07:39 PM
Never seen Rafa pump himself up as much as he did today...amazingly fast paced for a Nadal 5-setter.

Haase looked great the first 3 sets, definitely needs to work on keeping a consistent level and maybe returning a tad bit better

yeah only good for 2 sets really. rest very low level

only 12 UE in 5 sets for the rafa.....

Start da Game
06-24-2010, 07:39 PM
These days it seems like the Fedtards moaning about his play more than anyone else. Actually it's been that way for a couple years now with the "Fed should retire" threads and, well, Linkmage.

it's just an organized process of building up a beautiful excuse ready to use it when their hero gets knocked out.......

NADALbULLS
06-24-2010, 07:43 PM
42 winners for Nadal (2 more than Haase), and 12 unforced errors. Nadal's 2 double faults amazingly resulted in 2 breaks. 5 sets only took 142 mins.

Geo
06-24-2010, 07:44 PM
some good play from Haase :yeah: Nadal eventually figured out how to win though :shrug:

NADALbULLS
06-24-2010, 07:45 PM
Vamos Nadal. I agree with the Agassi comparison. Nadal refuses to get too far behind the baseline and is hitting like Agassi. I think Nadal's serve is more effective than Agassi on the grass as well. That slice serve on the ad side is killer on grass.

Definitely, Agassi had the big kicker but Agassi's 2nd serve especially was pretty weak, and yeah Nadal gets more angle. Really entertaining stuff, it makes hardcourt Nadal look boring (although he was very entertaining in the 1st set of the Murray match at Aust Open this year, even though he didn't win it).

DuMa
06-24-2010, 07:56 PM
Haase had his chances but his confidence dropped after that bagel in the 4th set

l_mac
06-24-2010, 07:58 PM
Fedal suck so hard currently and need to be schooled out of here. Nadal did play well 4th and 5th mind.

:confused:

Federer was shit against Falla, but fine against Bozo.

Rafa was decent against Nishikori, and played really well today other than two bad service games :shrug: Haase was nowhere in Rafa's service games even when his serve percentage was down at just over 50%.

What a great read this thread is :yeah: You can really learn a lot from the great tennis minds on MTF :bowdown:

GL in R3, Rafa.

Shirogane
06-24-2010, 08:07 PM
Nadal hitting like Agassi, haha.

Tutu
06-24-2010, 08:11 PM
Always liked Haase and this just reminded me why. :worship: 3-2* 40-40 to 5-2 in the second set was amazing!

Anyway, a nice test for Rafa and hopefully he will continue to improve.

Retard and trolls are still running rampant around MTF. NID.

born_on_clay
06-24-2010, 08:13 PM
2/2 break points for Haase
Rafa needs to focus more next time :D

josie
06-24-2010, 08:16 PM
what does NID means :confused:

scarecrows
06-24-2010, 08:19 PM
what does NID means :confused:

Never In Doubt

Persimmon
06-24-2010, 08:23 PM
I think we will have a non Fedal final.

Both look out of sorts.

Manequin75
06-24-2010, 08:29 PM
I second that. His enthusiasm used to be endearing, but now he just overdoes it every time he gets a point.

you wouldnt think this way if you were being blown off the court with your opponent's serve. Rafa couldnt handle the serve. He was standing there helpless the first set. He was really being blown off. Then he got a break aopportunity in the second set on that serve and the emotions were there to see. I could feel it. This was not Rafa emotions out of domination. This was just a pump to himself to hang in there and not get overwhelmed (which he was). No point arguing on this. If you ever played tennis you would understand.

Lopez
06-24-2010, 08:30 PM
Tard Logic on: Haase was injured, in the knee no less! That's why he lost. If Haase is fit, he wins. It's simple logic actually.
Logic off. :lol:

Nice match, glad to see Haase was able to put up a fight, though the result was really NID since Haase caught a couple of breaks with awesome shots at the right moments.

Commander Data
06-24-2010, 08:33 PM
no one is invincible.......and no one here said rafa is invincible.......we all know who is what when they played at their fullest capacity........

Exactly. 2007 that was.

Nadal is better on clay while peak Fed takes Grass and HC. That is pretty much obvious and backed up by a million titles and records. Don't tell me you think 2008 was Fed at his fullest and that Nadal is better then peak Fed on grass. Please do not embarrass yourself by this.

rafa_maniac
06-24-2010, 08:33 PM
I think we will have a non Fedal final.

Both look out of sorts.

Rafa really couldn't have done much more in this match than he did, two little errors cost him two breaks and thus two sets, that's the way it sometimes goes on grass. The rest of the time he was clearly on top :shrug:

Fujee
06-24-2010, 08:35 PM
he will hunt them down like a lion.......they wouldn't know where to run and save their lives.......

The way you describe Nadal borders on erotic, and its really fucking weird.

Persimmon
06-24-2010, 08:39 PM
Rafa really couldn't have done much more in this match than he did, two little errors cost him two breaks and thus two sets, that's the way it sometimes goes on grass. The rest of the time he was clearly on top :shrug:

Hmmm. I can see a Roddick-Murray final already.

Manequin75
06-24-2010, 08:39 PM
gulbis came out blasting serves at 130 mph in 2008.......what happened? he was sent back packing with the same speed........

Big serve is just not the only problem. A very high First serve percentage from a big server is the problem. If a big server comes and serves 90%+ like this dude did in the first set thats awfully difficult on grass where your serve can hide lack of other tennis skills.

When I saw the first 3-4 service games of this guy blasting serves and poor ole rafa barely even able to move let alone get a racquet on them I knew this is going to be a tough one.

Thank God Haase serve came down from its startospheric levels and Rafa got an openining. As well Rafa played he was lucky in my opinion to come out of this. I will take that luck. Hasse still served 68% firsts erves for the match (amazing!!!!!!) Thank God he didnt susatin the 85%+ for 5 sets.

My FEDAL final still very much on...

YES!!!!!

Ben.
06-24-2010, 08:40 PM
Rafa really couldn't have done much more in this match than he did, two little errors cost him two breaks and thus two sets, that's the way it sometimes goes on grass. The rest of the time he was clearly on top :shrug:

Been trying to stress this point all thread long, but to no avail...

Sophocles
06-24-2010, 08:45 PM
The way you describe Nadal borders on erotic, and its really fucking weird.

He can't help it. It's just the way his sexuality works.

Mjau!
06-24-2010, 08:48 PM
Big servers are an issue for practically everyone on grass, Sherlock.

ETA: Roger has a big serve and we all know the H2H...

Roger doesn't have a big serve. He's got good technique, but it's not big.
Just precise and versatile.

Sunset of Age
06-24-2010, 09:16 PM
Rafa really couldn't have done much more in this match than he did, two little errors cost him two breaks and thus two sets, that's the way it sometimes goes on grass. The rest of the time he was clearly on top :shrug:

Yep, pretty accurate.
I think the Party Pooper when it comes to whether we'll have a Fedal final or not will rather be Feds than Nads. Judging on what I've seen so far, of course.

That said, I'm not counting on a Fedal final at all, here. Would be great if it happened, but I've seen too many possible other candidates to be the fly in the ointment to feel in any way comfortable about it. :scared:

rocketassist
06-24-2010, 09:18 PM
Big servers are an issue for practically everyone on grass, Sherlock.

ETA: Roger has a big serve and we all know the H2H...

Not for Fed, Hewitt and Nalbandian over the years. And Fed a 'big server' you're surpassing your finest work here.

r2473
06-24-2010, 09:22 PM
Haase opening three sets: exactly 80% first serve (aka nearly unbreakable)

Wimbledon R2: Nadal def. Haase 5-7 6-2 3-6 6-0 6-3

Yet he was broken twice in the second set :confused:

Topspin Forehand
06-24-2010, 09:50 PM
Strange that Haase at moments looked like Sampras. Other tiimes he looked pedestrian. He's got mental issues. Must be fitness issues. Otherwise he would have a little more consistency.

Bargearse
06-24-2010, 10:01 PM
Not for Fed, Hewitt and Nalbandian over the years. And Fed a 'big server' you're surpassing your finest work here.

I agree. Fed doesn't have a 'big' serve. He has a clever serve that is well disguised and placed. He's not sending down cannons or anything... Can't image why anyone would think that :shrug:. In this tournament however, players are reading his serve like a newspaper.

Anyhow, it is nice to see the other top seeds struggling a little and spending some extra time out there on the courts like the King himself. Lots of 5 setters & even one 3 dayer!

abraxas21
06-24-2010, 10:06 PM
Watched the last 2 sets only when Nadal was virtually killing Robin. Based on that, I don't know how in the hell Haase managed to take two sets earlier on. Either he must have played a superlative level of tennis or Nadal played the crappiest level ever seen. Probably a mixture of both, I guess.

Sunset of Age
06-24-2010, 10:07 PM
Strange that Haase at moments looked like Sampras. Other tiimes he looked pedestrian. He's got mental issues. Must be fitness issues. Otherwise he would have a little more consistency.

This is true.
The Dutch commentator at Net5 put it very accurately: Haase has this tendency of 'losing it' as soon as he's won a couple of important points. This match's scoreline - winning set #1, fading in set #2, winning set #3, completely fading thereafter - showed how much he was spot-on, there. Haase and his coach should know what to work on most now.

Of course, there was a physical problem as well - Haase was limping right after set #3. His tank was empty at that point. But you can't really blame a player coming back from a terrible injury having him sidelined for some 18 months for that, I suppose.

ORGASMATRON
06-24-2010, 11:07 PM
Watched the last 2 sets only when Nadal was virtually killing Robin. Based on that, I don't know how in the hell Haase managed to take two sets earlier on. Either he must have played a superlative level of tennis or Nadal played the crappiest level ever seen. Probably a mixture of both, I guess.

do you ever watch a full match? haase simply disappeared in the 4th and 5th. the end.

abraxas21
06-24-2010, 11:09 PM
do you ever watch a full match?

Some of grown-ups actually have to do stuff during the day instead of watching the tele all the time.

ORGASMATRON
06-24-2010, 11:16 PM
Some of grown-ups actually have to do stuff during the day instead of watching the tele all the time.

grown-up :worship:

bad gambler
06-24-2010, 11:19 PM
Close one

The Magician
06-24-2010, 11:22 PM
Just saw the full match. Haase really should have won this one, played the perfect strategic match. Too bad he got that knee injury in the 4th which flared up again in the 5th, completely made him lose his first serve. Gulbis withdrawing, Isner playing 11 hours, Haase getting injured 2 sets to 1 up, and people thought Nadal might actually have a tough draw :haha:

Topspin Forehand
06-24-2010, 11:25 PM
Just saw the full match. Haase really should have won this one, played the perfect strategic match. Too bad he got that knee injury in the 4th which flared up again in the 5th, completely made him lose his first serve. Gulbis withdrawing, Isner playing 11 hours, Haase getting injured 2 sets to 1 up, and people thought Nadal might actually have a tough draw :haha:
He does. Soderling and Murray are still in the tournament. Nadal will likely have to go through Soderling, Murray, and Federer to win Wimbledon. :rolleyes:

Manequin75
06-24-2010, 11:27 PM
Yep, pretty accurate.
I think the Party Pooper when it comes to whether we'll have a Fedal final or not will rather be Feds than Nads. Judging on what I've seen so far, of course.

That said, I'm not counting on a Fedal final at all, here. Would be great if it happened, but I've seen too many possible other candidates to be the fly in the ointment to feel in any way comfortable about it. :scared:

come on Bonnie!!! you are among the very few here like me who like both rafa and fed. The individual fans of each of these mostly fight here and hope the other loses. I have had a rough tournament with fed so far and today rafa made me pull my hair. After set 3 i thought we lost him. Been a very testing last couple of days. Need you to use your magic to make sure Fedal happens on July 4th.

ANd by the way your scounting report on Haase didnt make me think the guy was such a beast on serve. lol. Now we have another guy I know very little about - phillip psrechner something. I know he gave Fed a tough 7-5 7-6 match in Halle recently. What do you think about him? Does he have a big serve - these days all I am interested in scouting on rafa's opponents are their serves lol.

Manequin75
06-24-2010, 11:31 PM
Just saw the full match. Haase really should have won this one, played the perfect strategic match. Too bad he got that knee injury in the 4th which flared up again in the 5th, completely made him lose his first serve. Gulbis withdrawing, Isner playing 11 hours, Haase getting injured 2 sets to 1 up, and people thought Nadal might actually have a tough draw :haha:

the tough draw is mainly SODERLING in the quarters. That might be rough for rafa. ANd then MURRAY. Murray has no real competition until the semis.

Sunset of Age
06-24-2010, 11:34 PM
come on Bonnie!!! you are among the very few here like me who like both rafa and fed. The individual fans of each of these mostly fight here and hope the other loses. I have had a rough tournament with fed so far and today rafa made me pull my hair. After set 3 i thought we lost him. Been a very testing last couple of days. Need you to use your magic to make sure Fedal happens on July 4th.

:) - it's nice to see another Fedal fan around, yes! :hug:
I needed to have another hair dye job after the past week witnessing both Feds and Nads play, yes. :angel: don't worry, I take those every four weeks or so. :p

Alas, my magic is limited. :awww:

ANd by the way your scounting report on Haase didnt make me think the guy was such a beast on serve. lol. Now we have another guy I know very little about - phillip psrechner something. I know he gave Fed a tough 7-5 7-6 match in Halle recently. What do you think about him? Does he have a big serve - these days all I am interested in scouting on rafa's opponents are their serves lol.

:) - I witnessed Phillip Petzschner in Halle LIVE, yes. And he was very impressive, a great grass player. I wouldn't underestimate the guy, no way.
Still - he's yet another big serve/volley fellow, and Rafa should not encounter any troubles playing him. He might lose a set in a TB, but that would be it.
Eh... of course this is all based on my own opinion, so don't take my word for it! ;)

andylovesaustin
06-24-2010, 11:36 PM
I didn't see the match, but...

I just think Rafa likes the "grind" and drama. Perhaps Rafa wanted to go 5 sets because Roger went 5 sets the other day? :scratch:

Anyway, too bad I missed the match.

Congrats to both players, but Rafa's victory was never in question. ;)

Sunset of Age
06-24-2010, 11:40 PM
I just think Rafa likes the "grind" and drama. Perhaps Rafa wanted to go 5 sets because Roger went 5 sets the other day? :scratch:

Be sure, judging on Rafa's reactions whenever he won an important point, he surely didn't 'want' this to go to 5 sets. In the first three sets, there just wasn't as much as he could possibly do, Haase was serving otherwordly. Thereafter, Haase faded, and Rafa rightfully took advantage.

Persimmon
06-24-2010, 11:41 PM
the tough draw is mainly SODERLING in the quarters. That might be rough for rafa. ANd then MURRAY. Murray has no real competition until the semis.

I think the draw was done by Judy Murray:o

The Magician
06-24-2010, 11:43 PM
Pretty embarrassing the way Nadal cheers his opponents errors and jumps around screaming like a lunatic. You could see by the handshake at the end he doesn't respect his opponents compared to Federer's attitude towards Falla and Bozo. Thank god Isner and Mahut showed you can still be competitive these days without being disrespectful to your opponent (other than Fed obviously).

andylovesaustin
06-24-2010, 11:45 PM
Be sure, judging on Rafa's reactions whenever he won an important point, he surely didn't 'want' this to go to 5 sets. In the first three sets, there just wasn't as much as he could possibly do, Haase was serving otherwordly. Thereafter, Haase faded, and Rafa rightfully took advantage.

Well I told ya I didn't see the match. :shrug:

I still think RAfa likes the "grind" and drama. He likes to come back.. which I respect.

I just really think his mindset is that he wants his title back.

So... with or without Haase's injury.. I still think Haase wasn't going to win against Rafa in the second round.

Persimmon
06-24-2010, 11:49 PM
I just really think his mindset is that he wants his title back.



Not happening:wavey:

Manequin75
06-24-2010, 11:52 PM
I didn't see the match, but...

I just think Rafa likes the "grind" and drama. Perhaps Rafa wanted to go 5 sets because Roger went 5 sets the other day? :scratch:

Anyway, too bad I missed the match.

Congrats to both players, but Rafa's victory was never in question. ;)

try watching the first set replay on espn3 - Rafa didnt even have the chance to move on the Haase serve. The serves were deep, kissing the lines, fast and angular. Haase service games were not even lasting a minute. when Rafa won the second shot i thought ok the first set was just fluke serving by Haase and the game is over. But after set 3 i was realy worried for Rafa. all disturbing thoughts were coming to me. This match has made me very afraid of soderling all over again. It sucks.

andylovesaustin
06-24-2010, 11:53 PM
Not happening:wavey:

Hey... I didn't say it was happening. I said that's what he wants.

And he ain't going out in what.. the second round?

I'm really not sure who's gonna win this year. To me, it's a toss-up.

One might say Murray... but heck he's snatched defeat from the jaws of victory before. :shrug:

Persimmon
06-24-2010, 11:54 PM
Hey... I didn't say it was happening. I said that's what he wants.

And he ain't going out in what.. the second round?

I'm really not sure who's gonna win this year. To me, it's a toss-up.

One might say Murray... but heck he's snatched defeat from the jaws of victory before. :shrug:

I would say Murray is the favorite to win.

Manequin75
06-24-2010, 11:56 PM
Pretty embarrassing the way Nadal cheers his opponents errors and jumps around screaming like a lunatic. You could see by the handshake at the end he doesn't respect his opponents compared to Federer's attitude towards Falla and Bozo. Thank god Isner and Mahut showed you can still be competitive these days without being disrespectful to your opponent (other than Fed obviously).

well this is a clear hate post. Go see the handshake. Rafa was apologetic for him and then he patted his back.

Nadal was blown off the court in the first set. Haase serves were like comets and meteors zipping by with rafa in la la spaceland. Then he got the break on unforced errors and he was celebrating breaks and pumping himself up. Those were not fist pumps out of domination but belief that he was getting into the match.

Manequin75
06-25-2010, 12:02 AM
I would say Murray is the favorite to win.

doubt Murray wins it. Even if somehow he manages to take out Nadal or Soderling I doubt he can beat Fed or Roddick. He will not have played one quality opponent until the semifinals and in the semis i think he will fall to Nadal/Soderling (hopefully to Nadal)

Ariel
06-25-2010, 12:09 AM
Was really a case of Rafa playing two bad games in the whole match and it cost him two sets.

That's exactly what Nadal said in the interview when they asked him how he thought he played.

andylovesaustin
06-25-2010, 12:10 AM
It would be hilarious if "dropshot" won it!

He's been looking down and out in a sort of confident way... A paradox... of sorts.

I also think it would be cool if Hewitt won it.

Andy Roddick... well I guess. I'm sort of neutral on him at the moment.

Ariel
06-25-2010, 12:19 AM
Congrats to Rafa, a tough win, might well be just what he needed. :hatoff:

Haase showed very clearly why he once was a (close to) top 50-player in this match before his year-long knee injury threw him off, and despite his disappointment of losing today, he should only take positives from it! :yeah:
I expected him to put up a fight, but taking two sets from Rafa? No-f*cking-way! :eek:

Most impressive was Rafa's mental fortitude, once again. It's amazing how he keeps being concentrated, whatever the odds, whereas Robin had clear mental let-downs after he won the 1st and the 3rd set. A problem on which the Dutch commentator very rightly commented that it needs further working on from him and his coach, as he has the game, and judging on his performance today, I think it should indeed be possible for Robin to get back to the top-50. Hopefully there's nothing seriously wrong with him, as he started limping a bit after that 3rd set...

Thank you, Bonnie, for some much needed balanced commentary. :) I didn't know much about Haase so I actually learned something from your post.

ApproachShot
06-25-2010, 12:35 AM
The result was never in doubt in my mind although Haase deserves enormous credit especially for the way he served in the first three sets.

To me, even though the match went to 5 sets, I saw Rafa's on court emotion as a manifestation of his strong desire to win. It is this determination that will see him past other inspired opponents who serve out of their minds and attempt to paint the lines on the returns.

The Magician
06-25-2010, 12:43 AM
well this is a clear hate post. Go see the handshake. Rafa was apologetic for him and then he patted his back.

Nadal was blown off the court in the first set. Haase serves were like comets and meteors zipping by with rafa in la la spaceland. Then he got the break on unforced errors and he was celebrating breaks and pumping himself up. Those were not fist pumps out of domination but belief that he was getting into the match.

Go watch Tsonga/Dolgopolov, Federer/Falla, Isner/Mahut, and a bunch of other 5 set battles this Wimbledon to see what good sportsmanship and mutual respect at the net look like. Nadal makes his opponents angry, and it's the ones who use that as fire instead of getting frustrated who can challenge him. Btw this is a form of gamesmanship but that's a separate discussion.

Manequin75
06-25-2010, 12:47 AM
Go watch Tsonga/Dolgopolov, Federer/Falla, Isner/Mahut, and a bunch of other 5 set battles this Wimbledon to see what good sportsmanship and mutual respect at the net look like. Nadal makes his opponents angry, and it's the ones who use that as fire instead of getting frustrated who can challenge him. Btw this is a form of gamesmanship but that's a separate discussion.

i dont know if its just me but your posts are always full of hatred against Rafa. By the way I am manequin and new here. Few things about me in my signature :)

Matt01
06-25-2010, 12:49 AM
i dont know if its just me but your posts are always full of hatred against Rafa.


No, it's not just you. For your information, you're wasting your time with a trollish Rafa hater.

Matt01
06-25-2010, 12:53 AM
Not for Fed, Hewitt and Nalbandian over the years. And Fed a 'big server' you're surpassing your finest work here.


Of course Fed is a big server. The serve is one of his best weapons these days.

Sunset of Age
06-25-2010, 12:57 AM
i dont know if its just me but your posts are always full of hatred against Rafa. By the way I am manequin and new here. Few things about me in my signature :)

There a bunches of haters and otherwise nasties around at MTF - in abundancy, I daresay. Don't allow them to bring you down. ;)

Archer16
06-25-2010, 12:58 AM
Yeah, just like he did this past month on RG.
This isn't clay.
Moreover, '07 Nadal >> '10 Nadal, '10 Soderling >> '07 Soderling, and you may remember the last time the two played here, when no-one in their right mind would have thought Soderling would become a top-5, giant-killa slam finalist.

Johnny Groove
06-25-2010, 01:00 AM
Strong test for Nadal.

coonster14
06-25-2010, 01:26 AM
VAMOS Rafa!!! :) so he finally has another 5 setter after i dunno how long since he last played one of them...

bad luck haase.

Guy Haines
06-25-2010, 01:41 AM
Second round and the whining about Nadal and huff-puffery about all the players set to smash him has already reached a fever pitch. Gotta love MTF.

Deivid23
06-25-2010, 02:08 AM
Great comeback from #1 :yeah:

pray-for-palestine-and-israel
06-25-2010, 02:23 AM
i'm a huge nadal fan but seeing him win wimbledon DOES NOT FEEL RIGHT

winning wimbledon should involve good net play

Roger Federer has good net play
Andy Murray has the capability of good net play
Gasquet has good (ok adequate.... ) net play
Roddick is useless at the net however, his booming serve mean he still has NATURAL GRASS SKILLS

Nadal is a topspin baseliner, defensive, who grinds players into making mistakes. yes Nadal has flattened out his forehand to an extent, but its not a grass shot- it shouldn't win him games

on fast surfaces, his flat backhand should be winning him most points, but Nadal's 2 hander is good- not great- therefore, Nadal should never be more than a quater final player on any fast surface, i'm sorry, his game is just not good enough, period

so why does he do well at wimbledon, because the surface is slow as fast clay, thats all there is to it

it just isn't wimbledon when topspin baseline defense heavy players dominate

rafa_maniac
06-25-2010, 02:26 AM
Watched the last 2 sets only when Nadal was virtually killing Robin. Based on that, I don't know how in the hell Haase managed to take two sets earlier on. Either he must have played a superlative level of tennis or Nadal played the crappiest level ever seen. Probably a mixture of both, I guess.

Serving out of a cloud for most of the first three sets and a couple of inspired moments/lucky breaks in sets 1 and 3, that's why. Nadal's level had little to do with it though he did get better as the match went on.

rafa_maniac
06-25-2010, 02:37 AM
Moreover, '07 Nadal >> '10 Nadal

I'd very much like to dispute that.

Topspin Forehand
06-25-2010, 02:37 AM
i'm a huge nadal fan but seeing him win wimbledon DOES NOT FEEL RIGHT

winning wimbledon should involve good net play

Roger Federer has good net play
Andy Murray has the capability of good net play
Gasquet has good (ok adequate.... ) net play
Roddick is useless at the net however, his booming serve mean he still has NATURAL GRASS SKILLS

Nadal is a topspin baseliner, defensive, who grinds players into making mistakes. yes Nadal has flattened out his forehand to an extent, but its not a grass shot- it shouldn't win him games

on fast surfaces, his flat backhand should be winning him most points, but Nadal's 2 hander is good- not great- therefore, Nadal should never be more than a quater final player on any fast surface, i'm sorry, his game is just not good enough, period

so why does he do well at wimbledon, because the surface is slow as fast clay, thats all there is to it

it just isn't wimbledon when topspin baseline defense heavy players dominate
Um no. You are a Fedtard. Stop pretending to be a Nadal fan and then insult his game.

rafa_maniac
06-25-2010, 02:41 AM
Nadal is a topspin baseliner, defensive, who grinds players into making mistakes.

I'm not sure how many Nadal grass court matches you've watched in the last few years being a "fan", but this is most certainly not true these days.

ORGASMATRON
06-25-2010, 02:41 AM
i'm a huge nadal fan but seeing him win wimbledon DOES NOT FEEL RIGHT

winning wimbledon should involve good net play

Roger Federer has good net play
Andy Murray has the capability of good net play
Gasquet has good (ok adequate.... ) net play
Roddick is useless at the net however, his booming serve mean he still has NATURAL GRASS SKILLS

Nadal is a topspin baseliner, defensive, who grinds players into making mistakes. yes Nadal has flattened out his forehand to an extent, but its not a grass shot- it shouldn't win him games

on fast surfaces, his flat backhand should be winning him most points, but Nadal's 2 hander is good- not great- therefore, Nadal should never be more than a quater final player on any fast surface, i'm sorry, his game is just not good enough, period

so why does he do well at wimbledon, because the surface is slow as fast clay, thats all there is to it

it just isn't wimbledon when topspin baseline defense heavy players dominate

:haha: :worship:

Riffrizzle
06-25-2010, 03:16 AM
Great match. This Wimbledon is massively exciting!

emotion
06-25-2010, 03:21 AM
Soderling should have no problems barring a RG-Final style horrifyingly bad performance
Petz will not beat Nadal, surely.
The way he celebrates UEs= :P

Arkulari
06-25-2010, 03:25 AM
Rafa has turned into a much more agressive player, he's not grinding as much now and is going for broke in a lot of his shots

He had to, his knees can't handle that kind of extreme defense any longer :shrug:

Mimi
06-25-2010, 03:28 AM
All luck this disgusting moonballer:vomit: What a crappy result:yawn::lol: yeah, he won his 7 slams all with luck

Mimi
06-25-2010, 03:29 AM
Sod won't crumble like Haase did in the 4th and 5th set.

:lol: yeah, coz he failed to win just one set, being beaten in straight sets in RG 10:lick:

Mimi
06-25-2010, 03:37 AM
well this is a clear hate post. Go see the handshake. Rafa was apologetic for him and then he patted his back.

Nadal was blown off the court in the first set. Haase serves were like comets and meteors zipping by with rafa in la la spaceland. Then he got the break on unforced errors and he was celebrating breaks and pumping himself up. Those were not fist pumps out of domination but belief that he was getting into the match.
The magician is a bitter rafa hater, you only know it now?:confused::wavey:

Pirata.
06-25-2010, 03:39 AM
clay is discounted because nadal was born with clay in his blood which gives him supernatural powers on the surface.......

:spit:

Topspin Forehand
06-25-2010, 03:46 AM
HEHEHE

NAdal Freak

How we love to hate thee
but how sad it would be
If you weren't here to see
Fed destroying Nadal completly

Vamos for the red grass excuse this early
Proof. Not that it wasn't obvious already. You are a Fedtard. Found this on another forum with your name and your country as well.

NADALbULLS
06-25-2010, 03:47 AM
This Haase-Nadal match is my favorite 5 setter in the history of Wimbledon. Most entertaining of all-time.

I_Dasco
06-25-2010, 03:48 AM
Lucky Nadul. He wont be luck next time

Mimi
06-25-2010, 03:49 AM
Proof. Not that it wasn't obvious already. You are a Fedtard. Found this on another forum with your name and your country as well.

:haha:: you are so smart, Topspin Forehand :lol::bigclap::smooch:

NADALbULLS
06-25-2010, 03:49 AM
Lucky Haase for hitting 88% of 1st serves in the 1st set, and 81% over the 1st 3 sets, at 205km/h average! I have never seen Soderling or Federer ever serve this well vs Nadal ever. And that forehand spank Haase hit to win the 1st set was out of this world, Nadal was right next to the line yet had no chance with such velocity.

Mimi
06-25-2010, 03:50 AM
Lucky Nadul. He wont be luck next time
oh yeah, his lucks won him 7 slams, are you jealous with red eyes? :nerner:

I_Dasco
06-25-2010, 03:51 AM
oh yeah, his lucks won him 7 slams, are you jealous with red eyes? :nerner:

Atleast This match ;)?

Mechlan
06-25-2010, 03:52 AM
Rafa showing his vengeful streak in set 4. Good win, looking forward to a rematch with Soderling.

Topspin Forehand
06-25-2010, 03:52 AM
Lucky Nadul. He wont be luck next time
Nadal was unlucky to lose 2 sets. Both points were lost on the first and only break point opportunity of the sets.

NADALbULLS
06-25-2010, 03:53 AM
I wonder where this match ranks in terms of the shortest 5 setters. It was 142 minutes. The shortest 5 setter Nadal has ever played.

Lalitha
06-25-2010, 03:55 AM
oh yeah, his lucks won him 7 slams, are you jealous with red eyes? :nerner:


do you think that its just luck? :)

paseo
06-25-2010, 04:08 AM
Wait wait so when fed goes up against an inspired opponent whose painting the lines and playing the match of his life and it goes to 5 sets the nadal tards come screaming in proclaiming that he's done he's a mug etc. etc. yet when rafa has the same thing happen to him they anoint him a spartan? These nadal fans on here take tardism to a whole new level.

This is true :p

Proof. Not that it wasn't obvious already. You are a Fedtard. Found this on another forum with your name and your country as well.

Another forum? :eek: You really go out of your way to find proof, don't you? Impressive :clap2: And I mean it.

Mimi
06-25-2010, 04:12 AM
do you think that its just luck? :)

I was being sarcastic my dear friend:D:wavey:

careergrandslam
06-25-2010, 05:19 AM
Proof. Not that it wasn't obvious already. You are a Fedtard. Found this on another forum with your name and your country as well.

:haha:

tennis-hero got pwned.

Dimitra
06-25-2010, 06:37 AM
Proof. Not that it wasn't obvious already. You are a Fedtard. Found this on another forum with your name and your country as well.

you went to another tennis forum to find proof for a poster??:eek:
Now how creepy is that.
I suggest you go to that other forum and stay there.:D

FedererBulgaria
06-25-2010, 07:34 AM
Too bad for Haase

Turquoise
06-25-2010, 08:01 AM
I was struck by 2 things:
- a five-set match involving Nadal practically went by in a breeze
- a natural left-hander playing right-handed facing a natural right-hander playing left-handed (really unusual)

Haase was serving lights out in the first set, but it's hard to maintain 88% first serve percentage over 5 sets. Quite a see-saw match by Nadal's standards, struggled to maintain consistency against Haase but the five-set format allowed him to steady himself and recover.

christallh24
06-25-2010, 08:19 AM
i'm a huge nadal fan but seeing him win wimbledon DOES NOT FEEL RIGHT

winning wimbledon should involve good net play

Roger Federer has good net play
Andy Murray has the capability of good net play
Gasquet has good (ok adequate.... ) net play
Roddick is useless at the net however, his booming serve mean he still has NATURAL GRASS SKILLS

Nadal is a topspin baseliner, defensive, who grinds players into making mistakes. yes Nadal has flattened out his forehand to an extent, but its not a grass shot- it shouldn't win him games

on fast surfaces, his flat backhand should be winning him most points, but Nadal's 2 hander is good- not great- therefore, Nadal should never be more than a quater final player on any fast surface, i'm sorry, his game is just not good enough, period

so why does he do well at wimbledon, because the surface is slow as fast clay, thats all there is to it

it just isn't wimbledon when topspin baseline defense heavy players dominate


BULLSHIT.BULLSHIT.BULLSHIT.BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHUTTHEFUCKUP! AND STOP MASQUERDING AS A RAFA FAN! IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE A HATER, THAN AT LEAST HAVE THE BALLS TO BE OPEN ABOUT IT!

Klaas_nalbandian
06-25-2010, 09:02 AM
Good to see Haase play on this level. Pity he had to meet Nadal but if he can continue to play like this he will be back soon.

Corey Feldman
06-25-2010, 09:13 AM
Nadal thought he was too important to meet the Queen, unreal this guy :rolleyes:

frankly, he shouldnt even be allowed to compete anymore in this tournament.

ossie
06-25-2010, 09:31 AM
Nadal thought he was too important to meet the Queen, unreal this guy :rolleyes:

frankly, he shouldnt even be allowed to compete anymore in this tournament. :rolleyes:

Art&Soul
06-25-2010, 09:32 AM
Nadull will lose to either Soderling or Murray :)

That's right :yeah: He was lucky to win this match :o

Mimi
06-25-2010, 09:39 AM
That's right :yeah: He was lucky to win this match :o

yeah, just like Roger won against Falla:wavey:

lazybear
06-25-2010, 09:51 AM
Yes that good. I think his ability is a lot better than last time he played Federer on grass. He is totally different now, a lot flatter hitting. Also compare Roland Garros 08 to Roland Garros 10 and he is hitting flatter even on clay. But on grass especially he looks like he's going for broke on nearly every shot.

And that would be a good thing against Federer? Hitting flat? You don't know much about that matchup, do you?

n8
06-25-2010, 10:01 AM
Nadal thought he was too important to meet the Queen, unreal this guy :rolleyes:

frankly, he shouldnt even be allowed to compete anymore in this tournament.

Tennis is Nadal's livelihood. Meeting the Queen would have negatively affected his work, which would have negatively affected his fans. I'm glad Nadal has his priorities in the right place and confidence to back them.

Matt01
06-25-2010, 11:12 AM
Um no. You are a Fedtard. Stop pretending to be a Nadal fan and then insult his game.


+1

Matt01
06-25-2010, 11:17 AM
Lucky Haase for hitting 88% of 1st serves in the 1st set, and 81% over the 1st 3 sets, at 205km/h average!


Can we please stop with "player x got lucky, player y got even luckier". This is tennis and it has nothing to do with luck!

Aenea
06-25-2010, 11:57 AM
I was struck by 2 things:
- a five-set match involving Nadal practically went by in a breeze
- a natural left-hander playing right-handed facing a natural right-hander playing left-handed (really unusual)

Haase was serving lights out in the first set, but it's hard to maintain 88% first serve percentage over 5 sets. Quite a see-saw match by Nadal's standards, struggled to maintain consistency against Haase but the five-set format allowed him to steady himself and recover.

I didn't know Robin was a natural left-hander. Why is he playing right-handed? With that big serve of his he would trouble many opponents had he played left-handed.

Stefanos13
06-25-2010, 12:38 PM
Nadal thought he was too important to meet the Queen, unreal this guy :rolleyes:

frankly, he shouldnt even be allowed to compete anymore in this tournament.

I don't think he thought that. I think you think that :)

In any case, good for him for getting his priorities right and for not spearing the time to bow to some tennis-irrelevant and hypocritical gesture by the Lawn Tennis Association

christallh24
06-25-2010, 12:41 PM
Nadal thought he was too important to meet the Queen, unreal this guy

frankly, he shouldnt even be allowed to compete anymore in this tournament.

:rolleyes::p:wavey:

Topspin Forehand
06-25-2010, 04:40 PM
you went to another tennis forum to find proof for a poster??:eek:
Now how creepy is that.
I suggest you go to that other forum and stay there.:D
I used to post at that forum and remember that screen name. Didn't take long find his screen name through google. Tennis-Warehouse is well known.

delpiero7
06-25-2010, 04:52 PM
I thought that was a very good performance by Nadal throughout the match, which has been masked by the match going to five sets.

As people have said previously, Nadal only faltered on serve twice in the match, and Haase was playing so well in the first 3 sets that he took advantage to take each of those sets.

But if he wasn't firing in the aces, Haase was never going to keep up his standard of play for 5 sets, as he was making some unbelievable shots. As soon as Nadal broke at the start of the 4th, the result was pretty much not in doubt.

2:20 for a Nadal 5-setter is quite something. He must have had a handful of 2-setters that have lasted longer than this.

Looking ahead, I reckon Soderling would potentially give him more trouble than Murray. Mainly because Murray has been serving like Dementieva all year, and I reckon Soderling would be able to hit through Nadal more effectively than Murray (even though Murray has done it twice before at slams).

M4RC
06-25-2010, 05:25 PM
He can't help it. It's just the way his sexuality works.

You're the living example of a one-dimensional and gross poster.

M4RC
06-25-2010, 05:28 PM
Just saw the full match. Haase really should have won this one, played the perfect strategic match. Too bad he got that knee injury in the 4th which flared up again in the 5th, completely made him lose his first serve. Gulbis withdrawing, Isner playing 11 hours, Haase getting injured 2 sets to 1 up, and people thought Nadal might actually have a tough draw :haha:

You're laughable.

M4RC
06-25-2010, 05:46 PM
Nadal thought he was too important to meet the Queen, unreal this guy :rolleyes:

frankly, he shouldnt even be allowed to compete anymore in this tournament.

No one cares about your fossil Queen. Monarchy should be banned. The Spanish one the first if possible.

The Magician
06-25-2010, 06:00 PM
You're laughable.

You criticized Isner-Mahut. That's as close as you can get to an objective measurement for someone being an idiot and a clown. The world ill needs another tard such as you :wavey:

Topspin Forehand
06-25-2010, 06:26 PM
You criticized Isner-Mahut. That's as close as you can get to an objective measurement for someone being an idiot and a clown. The world ill needs another tard such as you :wavey:
So what. Their styles aren't interesting. It's equivalent to a baseball game going 25 innings. Congrats for the heart but as a viewer, it is boring to watch.

ShotmaKer
06-25-2010, 07:27 PM
You're the living example of a one-dimensional and gross poster.

clearly you should look at a mirror if you want to see a one-dimensional and gross poster.

Dimitra
06-25-2010, 08:36 PM
I used to post at that forum and remember that screen name. Didn't take long find his screen name through google. Tennis-Warehouse is well known.

and I know it very well.And Nadal Freak was made fun of everyone.:wavey: Still you're pretty creepy.

ORGASMATRON
06-25-2010, 08:53 PM
and I know it very well.And Nadal Freak was made fun of everyone.:wavey: Still you're pretty creepy.

wtf is so creepy about checking if someone is faking? from the sound of it youre the creepy one here.