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WimbledonR1: Soderking destroyed Ginepri 6-2 6-2 6-3

henke007
06-22-2010, 05:21 PM
58 Winners and 11 UE and superserving:worship:

scarecrows
06-22-2010, 05:22 PM
very good performance
one of the best of the opening round

rubbERR
06-22-2010, 05:22 PM
king? kings doesnt lose two grandslam finals in row

alter ego
06-22-2010, 05:24 PM
Walk in the park for the future number 1.

lazybear
06-22-2010, 05:24 PM
Wasn't as close as the scoreline would indicate, lol. Total demolition.

jonas
06-22-2010, 05:25 PM
Well, that was some serious spanking right there.
Massive strokes and few UE.
Looking good for a QF spot.

Dimitra
06-22-2010, 05:26 PM
NID

Sod :yeah: :D

Topspin Forehand
06-22-2010, 05:26 PM
:scared:

Jomp1
06-22-2010, 05:26 PM
1h 18 min, pretty amazing considering the scoreline. Gave Ginepri some "opportunities" just to serve them away from him immediately.

kooties
06-22-2010, 05:27 PM
Please, don't peak too early

ORGASMATRON
06-22-2010, 05:28 PM
soderling to take out nadal.

solowyn
06-22-2010, 05:29 PM
Please, don't peak too early
Mmm.

Very, very good though.

Filo V.
06-22-2010, 05:34 PM
Expected result.

Manequin75
06-22-2010, 05:34 PM
very dominating.

Murray lucky that Sod is in Rafa's quarter......

Rafa will probably play Isner, Soderling, Murray and Federer in successive matches if he wants to win this......:mad:

Topspin Forehand
06-22-2010, 05:35 PM
This Nadal has terrible luck with draws. :(

Roamed
06-22-2010, 05:37 PM
He was really good, painting the lines, great serving too which got him out of a small bit of trouble in the third. Hope he can sustain this form :)

Sunset of Age
06-22-2010, 05:38 PM
Total destruction. :worship:

Manequin75
06-22-2010, 05:39 PM
This Nadal has terrible luck with draws. :(

i guess you also think rafa will have his hands full with sod in the QF? It very well could be sod taking out rafa in the QF and then losing to fed in the finals. Fed-Nadal kep playing ping pong with him. He beats one but loses to the other lol...

I just think sod beating Rafa is going to have a negative effect on rafa for the hardcourt season. I thought the spell was broken in RG....hope it doesnt get back on....

what chances you give Rafa in the QF?

Topspin Forehand
06-22-2010, 05:41 PM
i guess you also think rafa will have his hands full with sod in the QF? It very well could be sod taking out rafa in the QF and then losing to fed in the finals. Fed-Nadal kep playing ping pong with him. He beats one but loses to the other lol...

I just think sod beating Rafa is going to have a negative effect on rafa for the hardcourt season. I thought the spell was broken in RG....hope it doesnt get back on....

what chances you give Rafa in the QF?
I'd say it's 50/50. Weather plays an important part. Hope it is sunny and dry. But I just think Sod's serve is too much to handle at Wimbledon. He is a threat to Roger as well but the pressure of the finals will get to him.

Priam
06-22-2010, 05:41 PM
Both of em are into rd2, not quite QFs. Let Toni worry about it.

kooties
06-22-2010, 05:44 PM
I actually like Nadal's chances against Soderling on grass better than I do on clay.

The thing is, if Soderlings going to hit a winner, he's going to hit a winner. Doesn't matter if it was played on molasses, he's going to hit a winner. On the flipside on clay, it's tough for Nadal to hit past Soderling, whereas on grass Nadal hits it a bit flatter thus giving Soderling less time to set up his shots, and give Nadal more errors.

ad-out
06-22-2010, 05:46 PM
Amazing performance by Robin today. And team Soderling is adorable! Jenni fistpumping Magnus after match.. :hearts:

allpro
06-22-2010, 05:47 PM
a thor-like performance.

Rafa will probably play Isner, Soderling, Murray and Federer in successive matches if he wants to win this......:mad:

if murray and sods build on their present form, it doesn't look good for rafa. but if he does pull it off, he goes to another level.

raahaat7
06-22-2010, 05:47 PM
Total destruction. :worship:

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Topspin Forehand
06-22-2010, 05:48 PM
I actually like Nadal's chances against Soderling on grass better than I do on clay.

The thing is, if Soderlings going to hit a winner, he's going to hit a winner. Doesn't matter if it was played on molasses, he's going to hit a winner. On the flipside on clay, it's tough for Nadal to hit past Soderling, whereas on grass Nadal hits it a bit flatter thus giving Soderling less time to set up his shots, and give Nadal more errors.
Did you watch the indoor match between Nadal and Soderling? Soderling still had time and Nadal had no time to track down balls. Nadal will have to hit hard and flat against Soderling no doubt and serve big to win. And Nadal was able to track many of Soderling's ball back at RG. He won't be able to track those same balls at Wimbledon. I actually think grass is Soderling's best surface. He has just been unlucky to face Federer there the last couple years.

Manequin75
06-22-2010, 05:54 PM
I actually like Nadal's chances against Soderling on grass better than I do on clay.

The thing is, if Soderlings going to hit a winner, he's going to hit a winner. Doesn't matter if it was played on molasses, he's going to hit a winner. On the flipside on clay, it's tough for Nadal to hit past Soderling, whereas on grass Nadal hits it a bit flatter thus giving Soderling less time to set up his shots, and give Nadal more errors.

thats good rationalization and has some merits to it. It will be tougher for Sod to break Nadal on grass but the problem is that sod just has an overwhelmingly superior service. Even if rafa is serving well he usually has 1-2 games per set where he plays a lose game and finds himseld 0-30 down and suceptible to being broken. While soderling serve will be difficult just to put the damn thing into play like we saw today. Genipri isnt a mug really - I thought he could atleast take a set prior to the match.

Grass has always favored the big server. Nothing new I guess. oh well...

Jomp1
06-22-2010, 05:55 PM
Did you watch the indoor match between Nadal and Soderling? Soderling still had time and Nadal had no time to track down balls. Nadal will have to hit hard and flat against Soderling no doubt and serve big to win. And Nadal was able to track many of Soderling's ball back at RG. He won't be able to track those same balls at Wimbledon. I actually think grass is Soderling's best surface. He has just been unlucky to face Federer there the last couple years.

Yep, Wimbledon fits Robin great. It's not the clay that has made Robin good against Rafa, it's the style of play that fits him. Hardcourt/Grass/Indoor/Whatever is a better chance for Robin against Rafa than clay, even if he beat him on clay in 09 he beat him in straights indoors too. But I see him as very allround, he doesn't lose matches because of surface.

kooties
06-22-2010, 05:58 PM
Did you watch the indoor match between Nadal and Soderling? Soderling still had time and Nadal had no time to track down balls. Nadal will have to hit hard and flat against Soderling no doubt and serve big to win. And Nadal was able to track many of Soderling's ball back at RG. He won't be able to track those same balls at Wimbledon. I actually think grass is Soderling's best surface. He has just been unlucky to face Federer there the last couple years.

To each his own, I'll always be on the opinion that high bouncing courts (clay courts) will be Robin's best surface,as it gives him more time to take big swings.

I also don't think Nadal flattens his shots on hard court, as much as on grass. I've seen way more loopy shots from him at faster hardcourts than at Wimbledon.

Whatever, hopefully will see this next week.

Manequin75
06-22-2010, 05:59 PM
Did you watch the indoor match between Nadal and Soderling? Soderling still had time and Nadal had no time to track down balls. Nadal will have to hit hard and flat against Soderling no doubt and serve big to win. And Nadal was able to track many of Soderling's ball back at RG. He won't be able to track those same balls at Wimbledon. I actually think grass is Soderling's best surface. He has just been unlucky to face Federer there the last couple years.

all surfaces seem to be his best. I thought we agreed that at RG he was getting time to set up his forehands and damn weather helped him to slwo the clay down. Now wimbledon is fast and so by that logic he will be rushing his forehands and might not have the time to smash it with his frying-pan. The only way Rafa wins is if he keeps sod moving throughout. Moving on grass aint easy and there lies Rafa's strategy. Hopefully the court will lose some of that grass by next wednesday and this thing might play differently. I mean who knows.

Topspin Forehand
06-22-2010, 06:05 PM
all surfaces seem to be his best. I thought we agreed that at RG he was getting time to set up his forehands and damn weather helped him to slwo the clay down. Now wimbledon is fast and so by that logic he will be rushing his forehands and might not have the time to smash it with his frying-pan. The only way Rafa wins is if he keeps sod moving throughout. Moving on grass aint easy and there lies Rafa's strategy. Hopefully the court will lose some of that grass by next wednesday and this thing might play differently. I mean who knows.
Wimbledon gives him time as well it seems. It seems the grass reacts to serves very well but the game slows down once the point becomes neutral. Those are both advantages to Soderling. Hardcourt may be his worst surface.

Jomp1
06-22-2010, 06:08 PM
To each his own, I'll always be on the opinion that high bouncing courts (clay courts) will be Robin's best surface,as it gives him more time to take big swings.

I also don't think Nadal flattens his shots on hard court, as much as on grass. I've seen way more loopy shots from him at faster hardcourts than at Wimbledon.

Whatever, hopefully will see this next week.

There's always pros and cons. Higher bounces - good for baseline, faster court - good for serving. I don't think the court looked that fast today though, but the serve always bites on grass so if that's the case then all the better for him.

Sophocles
06-22-2010, 06:09 PM
Good stuff. What's the betting he peaks for the quarters again?

straitup
06-22-2010, 06:11 PM
Didn't see much of it, but Soderling was impressive...really shouldn't be challenged for a while

MrChopin
06-22-2010, 06:32 PM
While on all this talk about QF and SF, if Soderking and Murray face off in the SF, I think it would be for the #4 ranking and pretty big impact for the hardcourt season.

rocketassist
06-22-2010, 06:33 PM
Great result.

rocketassist
06-22-2010, 06:35 PM
This Nadal has terrible luck with draws. :(

Almugro and Melzer QF and SF of RG, hard as nails.

Topspin Forehand
06-22-2010, 06:35 PM
Almugro and Melzer QF and SF of RG, hard as nails.
Almagro definitely wasn't playing like Almugro on clay this year. He was a beast. Gladly Nadal won all the big points. It was about dead even most of the match.

rocketassist
06-22-2010, 06:38 PM
Almagro definitely wasn't playing like Almugro on clay this year. He was a beast. Gladly Nadal won all the big points. It was about dead even most of the match.

He is still a choker who can't beat top players when it counts.

Fed=ATPTourkilla
06-22-2010, 06:44 PM
Nadal's draw is horrific as it is - imagine how bad it would have been with Gulbis.

*Jean*
06-22-2010, 06:53 PM
Robin :yeah:
Robby :hug:

RagingLamb
06-22-2010, 06:57 PM
There is not much Ginepri could do against the devastating serve and ground strokes of Soderling.

Nidhogg
06-22-2010, 08:36 PM
Well that was a commanding performance. Robin looked very confident and relaxed, and he served very well. Lost a bit of focus in the third set and gave Ginepri some looks, but then he responded with unreturnable serves and aces like nothing. Not bad for his first competitive match on grass for a year.

coonster14
06-22-2010, 10:54 PM
robin, please get to the QF, i am really looking forward to the QF match between robin/rafa. :)

Ouragan
06-22-2010, 11:13 PM
Sod likes crunching on those soft, hapless Yanks...first Dent at RG, now Ginepri.

FormerRafaFan
06-22-2010, 11:32 PM
This Nadal has terrible luck with draws. :(

Yep. And it's the same every time. Horrible, horrible draws for Rafa :(

rocketassist
06-22-2010, 11:52 PM
Rafatards always whining about nasty draws every week.... :lol:

ZaZoo)
06-22-2010, 11:54 PM
Good for Sod.

FlameOn
06-23-2010, 02:58 AM
Well done Robin!! :rocker2:

Keep it up. Grass is one of Sod's best surfaces.

Rafa#Uno:-)
06-23-2010, 11:00 AM
Demolition man..........Söderling.......

idolwatcher1
06-23-2010, 12:26 PM
Robin served VERY well in this match! When you're already riding confidence from getting to another slam final, and you know you're physically fresh because you didn't play a lot leading up to Wimbledon, and THEN you're serves are powerful and giving you quick points easily, it's the perfect mix to make you confident and relaxed during your Wimbledon matches.

Out of the 137 points in this match, 100 of them ended on Robin's racquet, and 58 of those were winners. Basically, when Ginepri tried to return Robin's serves, he would lunge toward the ball stretching out his racquet, barely get to the ball, so when he would actually get the ball in play, it was always incredibly short, and slow, and Robin always came forward and would slam the ball anywhere he wanted to in the court (but usually in the corners or lines) so that Robby just basically had no way of getting to them or making a rally of the point. The points were generally very quick, and Robby's service game just wasn't good enough to give Robin some competition.

Robin's 1st and 2nd serves were an average of 17mph faster than Robby's 1st and 2nd serves. Soderling was playing very well, and very confidently. If he can keep this form up, he will be hard to beat. I'm pretty sure it will take a superior server to beat Robin here, unless he suddenly and inexplicably drops form, and doesn't manage to regain it.

Rafatards always whining about nasty draws every week.... :lol:
yeah, it's really pathetic. :lol: Rafa is (and has been before) #1 in the WORLD! No one should feel sorry for him or any #1 player, they must prove they are the best everytime they hit the court, and if they can't then it's because someone played better than them... end of story. ;)

Mjau!
06-23-2010, 01:02 PM
Good to see the Nadaltards tremble! :scared: :p

allpro
06-23-2010, 01:04 PM
Good to see the Nadaltards tremble! :scared: :p

you're such a toadtard :lol:

Mjau!
06-23-2010, 01:07 PM
Rafatards always whining about nasty draws every week.... :lol:

It would be understandable if he was some journeyman with hopes of having a decent run, but Rafa is the world #1 and a 7-time grand slam champion for god's sake! :lol: How utterly unfair that he'll probably have to beat some very tough opponents if he wants to win Wimbledon again! :rolleyes: Evidently, they do not have much faith in their man...

Mjau!
06-23-2010, 01:08 PM
you're such a toadtard :lol:

Huh? :confused: I'm a very reasonable and objective Toad-enthusiast. :wavey:

ORGASMATRON
06-23-2010, 01:47 PM
Good to see the Nadaltards tremble! :scared: :p

they should. soderling is on a path of destruction and revenge after the FO :devil:

rafa_maniac
06-23-2010, 01:51 PM
What's all this talk about Rafa in a Soderling match thread? If he's going to win here he's going to have to be the best player in the draw so it shouldn't matter who he faces.

Soderling looked really really good, but he's still perfectly capable of having an off day against almost anybody and losing, that's just the way he plays.

allpro
06-23-2010, 01:53 PM
Rafatards always whining about nasty draws every week.... :lol:

Rafahaters always whining about Rafatards.... :lol: