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So.... IF Falla had pulled off the upset and beaten Federer...

Fedex
06-21-2010, 10:39 PM
Where would you rank that hypothetical upset in the annals of tennis history? Biggest in tennis history? Perhapsthe biggest in the history of modern sports?

I'd be really interested to people's thoughts are on this. Falla REALLY blew his chance at history today. He should have won.

rocketassist
06-21-2010, 10:52 PM
Bigger than Soderling-Nadal for sure.

idolwatcher1
06-21-2010, 10:54 PM
All I can say is that when Falla was serving for the match, I'm sure that he accidentally started thinking about the same question you are asking..................

Johnny Groove
06-21-2010, 10:55 PM
Definitely would have been bigger than Nadal-Soderling.

On par with Sampras-Bastl probably.

rocketassist
06-21-2010, 10:58 PM
Definitely would have been bigger than Nadal-Soderling.

On par with Sampras-Bastl probably.

Bigger than that- Pete had declined considerably at that point, and was 31 and Fed had beaten him the year before.

Fed has lost one Wimbledon match since 2003.

Roamed
06-21-2010, 11:02 PM
I checked out the odds before the match, Federer was the 1/100 favourite, shorter odds than anyone else in any match today or tomorrow. Especially if Falla had done it in straights when he had those four break points in the third, that would have been mind blowing.

Sophocles
06-21-2010, 11:07 PM
Struggling to think of a bigger upset in tennis.

allpro
06-21-2010, 11:10 PM
biggest upset in mens tennis history imo.

Fedex
06-21-2010, 11:11 PM
Bigger than Soderling-Nadal for sure.

No doubt. And that was a pretty monumental upset in it's own right.

PiggyGotRoasted
06-21-2010, 11:11 PM
Struggling to think of a bigger upset in tennis.

Nadal def Nishikori tomorrow would come close.

Noleta
06-21-2010, 11:11 PM
All I can say is that when Falla was serving for the match, I'm sure that he accidentally started thinking about the same question you are asking..................

This.:lol:

rafa_maniac
06-21-2010, 11:11 PM
Can't think of any unless you count WTA in which case there's something like Dokic-Hingis or Bartoli-Henin to consider.

christinamarie
06-21-2010, 11:34 PM
Possibly would have been the best thing I'd seen in Wimbledon, with the exception of Roddick lifting the trophy.
He should have won, it's a shame a lot of the inexperienced players don't manage to pull off the upsets and go further in these tournaments, because of choking at the important points, because they're inexperienced... it's a vicious circle.

DwyaneWade
06-21-2010, 11:35 PM
Yes. I don't think anyone in their right mind would have picked Falla. Much bigger than Nadal-Soderling (Soderling being a top ten player, Falla being a guy on the outside of the top 50 careerwise)

Pirata.
06-21-2010, 11:39 PM
Probably the biggest upset in tennis history. Roger's not been playing his best, but grass and Wimbledon is the one place where he is at his best. Only Rafa has managed to beat him on grass in the last 7 years. Would've been shocking.

Can't think of any unless you count WTA in which case there's something like Dokic-Hingis or Bartoli-Henin to consider.

Didn't Dinara lose to a young Chinese player last year? Ranked like 200-something?

MIMIC
06-22-2010, 12:43 AM
Considering the fact that Federer is currently the defending champion (and the No. 1 seed), it would have arguably been the greatest upset.

DuMa
06-22-2010, 12:59 AM
greatest upset in open era and modern history

emotion
06-22-2010, 01:42 AM
the biggest in history

coonster14
06-22-2010, 02:12 AM
lets see...the #1 seed, 6 time and current defending Wimbledon champion almost losing to a guy from colombia who noone really paid attention to (until yesterday).

without a doubt, would have been the biggest upset in the history of men's tennis. falla was serving for the match too...*sigh*.

Mjau!
06-22-2010, 02:19 AM
It would have made this era the strongest ever. :yeah:

Bargearse
06-22-2010, 02:26 AM
It could have been the undisputed biggest upset in the history of tennis. Now it might be the biggest choke. Falla might need some anti-depressants after that result.

DuMa
06-22-2010, 02:31 AM
All Falla had to do was think recently with this idea... "NO ONE BEATS FALLA 3 STRAIGHT TIMES IN LESS THAN A MONTH"

instead of thinking of all-time.

NADALbULLS
06-22-2010, 04:05 AM
It would have been a great shame if Federer had lost to Falla. It would have ruined the tournament. I was greatly looking forward to another Roddick vs Federer semi or Hewitt vs Federer. It is great to see that Federer won.

andy neyer
06-22-2010, 04:45 AM
Definitely would have been bigger than Nadal-Soderling.

On par with Sampras-Bastl probably.

Nadal-Soda was a far bigger upset than Bastl-Sampras.

andy neyer
06-22-2010, 04:47 AM
the biggest in history

I think that's a stretch. Federer has lost to many many people this year already, including Montañes!

Sure Wimby is his fave tournament but that doesn't take away the fact that he's in decline and is more vulnerable to many other players that in the past couldn't trouble him. If we were having this question 3 years ago I'd probably agree with you but certainly not now.

Caerula Sanguis
06-22-2010, 05:05 AM
Won't be as bad as Safina loss to Date...

NADALbULLS
06-22-2010, 05:06 AM
In a sense Wimbledon evens up the playing field because a lot of guys who don't usually get free points on their serve actually do on grass. So you get some closer sets and more tie-breakers.

Johnny Groove
06-22-2010, 05:10 AM
Bigger than that- Pete had declined considerably at that point, and was 31 and Fed had beaten him the year before.

Fed has lost one Wimbledon match since 2003.

Nadal-Soda was a far bigger upset than Bastl-Sampras.

True, true.

After thinking about it some more, I think had Falla won it, it would have been the biggest upset in the history of the game.

whattheheck
06-22-2010, 05:18 AM
would've been nice

ChampionshipPoints
06-22-2010, 05:32 AM
I think that the fact that Falla has come so close to beating him, is an upset in its own right!

crude oil
06-22-2010, 05:40 AM
everyone talks about the choking of Falla.

But honestly all the pressure was on federer. I'm sure he knew this could have been his most humiliating defeat and probably one of the craziest in history.

Falla had absolutely nothing to lose here and was just swinging and connecting.

Federer was faced with one of the most disgraceful defeats of all time. This would have been epic had it happened. I'm sure the thought probably crossed his mind. So props to him for staying mentally tough.

NADALbULLS
06-22-2010, 05:53 AM
Falla and every other player who has led Federer 2 sets to love (including Haas last year at RG) has a fear of winning over Federer. This is exactly the same as when some people are released from prison they have a fear of freedom so they either commit suicide or commit a crime to get back behind bars where they belong. Same thing as when certain guys lead Federer.

crude oil
06-22-2010, 06:27 AM
Falla and every other player who has led Federer 2 sets to love (including Haas last year at RG) has a fear of winning over Federer. This is exactly the same as when some people are released from prison they have a fear of freedom so they either commit suicide or commit a crime to get back behind bars where they belong. Same thing as when certain guys lead Federer.

stop smoking crack

:haha:

:haha:

it is not as if this is some kind of stockholm syndrome or something...what an analogy.

:haha:

:haha:

NADALbULLS
06-22-2010, 06:35 AM
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Arkulari
06-22-2010, 06:41 AM
Falla and every other player who has led Federer 2 sets to love (including Haas last year at RG) has a fear of winning over Federer. This is exactly the same as when some people are released from prison they have a fear of freedom so they either commit suicide or commit a crime to get back behind bars where they belong. Same thing as when certain guys lead Federer.

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andy neyer
06-22-2010, 07:00 AM
^ exactly what i thought.

not true in any case, though.

Leo
06-22-2010, 07:05 AM
Probably the biggest upset in tennis history. Roger's not been playing his best, but grass and Wimbledon is the one place where he is at his best. Only Rafa has managed to beat him on grass in the last 7 years. Would've been shocking.



Didn't Dinara lose to a young Chinese player last year? Ranked like 200-something?

Safina sucks. She's not even part of the picture.

I think Graf had one of the biggest upsets at Wimbledon in the early 90s? First round? Forget the name of the girl who beat her. But certainly Bartoli/Henin and Dokic/Hingis come to mind in women's tennis, particularly the former IMO. That shit was crazy.

I think if Falla pulled it off and sealed the deal, THIS WOULD have been the biggest upset in the history of tennis, yes. A bit bigger than Soderling/Nadal. Certainly bigger than Bastel/Sampras ==> in fact, what compares more is the forgotten almost-upset that was Barry Cowan/Sampras. 2nd round in 2001, when Sampras was four-time defending champion and had won the last 7 of 8 Wimbledon titles. But Sampras wasn't holding 2 Slams at the time, and he was older than Federer is now anyway and was clearly slowing.

Where do we rank these two upsets, the ones that actually did happen, and both in the R16:
Federer def. Sampras, W 2001
Soderling def. Nadal, RG 2009
Which is bigger?

BlueSwan
06-22-2010, 07:30 AM
It's a bad time for Federers records these days. He's lost the SF streak. He's lost his chance of getting the weeks at #1 record right at the finish line. He's losing to players that he's never lost to before. And now this: He fails to be a part of the record for biggest upset in tennis history. All he had to do was let Falla serve it out, but even at that he fails. Pathetic, this Fedmug is.

Arkulari
06-22-2010, 07:55 AM
Safina sucks. She's not even part of the picture.

I think Graf had one of the biggest upsets at Wimbledon in the early 90s? First round? Forget the name of the girl who beat her. But certainly Bartoli/Henin and Dokic/Hingis come to mind in women's tennis, particularly the former IMO. That shit was crazy.

I think if Falla pulled it off and sealed the deal, THIS WOULD have been the biggest upset in the history of tennis, yes. A bit bigger than Soderling/Nadal. Certainly bigger than Bastel/Sampras ==> in fact, what compares more is the forgotten almost-upset that was Barry Cowan/Sampras. 2nd round in 2001, when Sampras was four-time defending champion and had won the last 7 of 8 Wimbledon titles. But Sampras wasn't holding 2 Slams at the time, and he was older than Federer is now anyway and was clearly slowing.

Where do we rank these two upsets, the ones that actually did happen, and both in the R16:
Federer def. Sampras, W 2001
Soderling def. Nadal, RG 2009
Which is bigger?

Toad had just gotten schooled (there is no other word) 60 61 in Rome a few weeks before RG, and Rafa had never lost at the FO before

NADALbULLS
06-22-2010, 08:17 AM
^ exactly what i thought.

not true in any case, though.

There is no disputing that Falla was scared of winning (like a prisoner scared of freedom). It happens to a lot of players when at the finishline vs Federer. Federer just has to keep the ball in play when someone's serving for the match.....

propi
06-22-2010, 11:02 AM
Oh Falla, from a potential Karlovic to a real Russell :sad::rolleyes::p

BodyServe
06-22-2010, 11:16 AM
Well Falla is a little known and has been around for a while, Karlovic was totally unknow when he defeated Hewitt and i believe he had even bigger odds than Falla.

MariaV
06-22-2010, 11:23 AM
It's pointless to speculate anyway as it didn't happen. :shrug:

raahaat7
06-22-2010, 04:25 PM
I think that's a stretch. Federer has lost to many many people this year already, including Montañes!

Sure Wimby is his fave tournament but that doesn't take away the fact that he's in decline and is more vulnerable to many other players that in the past couldn't trouble him. If we were having this question 3 years ago I'd probably agree with you but certainly not now.

this.