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Why the Murray hate?

aloniv
06-21-2010, 06:14 AM
I'm trying to understand why Murray is hated by fans and his peers. Here are the reasons I can think of:

1. He's a tall player who shouldn't be playing "pusher" tennis.
2. He's overhyped before grand slams since he is hailed as the favorite by the media.
3. He's perceived as a choker. He loses in important grand slam matches and only wins masters events that the big player don't care about.
4. The "come on" chants after his opponents commit unforced errors.

Feel free to add more reasons. These reasons still don't explain the lack of respect he gets by Federer in interviews (Federer advised him to play more aggressive etc) although in Federer's case it's probably part of his 'mind games' (and his advise was actually rather good). Nadal had kind word's to say about Murray before their Australian Open match this year, but then again he always says nice things about his opponents (when was the last time he dissed his opponent?).

allpro
06-21-2010, 06:25 AM
poor temperament and disrespectful to his coaches.

e476
06-21-2010, 07:26 AM
I personally love Murray, but I've heard people say they don't like Murray because the British press drools over him and exalts him. Plus he seems very sullen to them.

Roamed
06-21-2010, 07:26 AM
Personally the UK press are annoying about him. I don't really like it when he does that 'roar' thing either. Sort of growing to like him though.

scoobs
06-21-2010, 07:28 AM
They're completely in awe of his sheer sexual magnetism and this turns to bitterness and resentment.

He turns straight men gay and straight women moist. Only the lesbians are immune and even some of them waver.

thegreendestiny
06-21-2010, 07:30 AM
Because he is useless in a GS final.

Stefanos13
06-21-2010, 07:31 AM
They're completely in awe of his sheer sexual magnetism and this turns to bitterness and resentment.

He turns straight men gay and straight women moist. Only the lesbians are immune and even some of them waver.

he also turns gay men straight :)

oematoema
06-21-2010, 07:31 AM
Negative aura the size of a mushroom cloud.

scoobs
06-21-2010, 07:32 AM
he also turns gay men straight :)
Bitch please, those are the ones who know they can never be with him, can't cope with the fact, and decide they will never love another man again, so they have to turn to women for solace. It's completely understandable.

Stefanos13
06-21-2010, 07:38 AM
Bitch please, those are the ones who know they can never be with him, can't cope with the fact, and decide they will never love another man again, so they have to turn to women for solace. It's completely understandable.

You got me! And who can forget the attractive moment when he showed his biceps to the Wimbledon crowd: "hey everybody, I've been exercising recently"

scoobs
06-21-2010, 07:39 AM
In all seriousness, all players have their haters, it's a sign you've arrived.

In Murray's case perhaps he has more than most because

1) he doesn't play power tennis and shows no desire to seriously become a power player - he wants to play with more guile and variety and play more counterpunching style, which puts off the sort of fan who thinks good tennis is about hitting hard or if not, hitting harder. And there's a lot of those these days, they think hitting a forehand slice is a sign of gayness.

2) He has little charisma on the court, little charisma in interviews, and has no interest in developing any - he's not a media whore. He wants the support of the public but not at the price of becoming something he's not - his take it or leave it attitude is bound to leave some people cold.

3) While I and others think he has a certain unusual charm in the looks department, he's by no means a classic himbo so he's not going to capture the moist panties brigade.

4) In the case of the Brits, too, it's not unusual for us to want to tear down those who've made it near the top of their sporting profession - I think some would like nothing better to see a Murray scandal all over the sports pages.

Any or all of the above, take your pick.

Acer
06-21-2010, 08:12 AM
4. The "come on" chants after his opponents commit unforced errors.

It's 'MON actually, which makes it even more irritating.

Caerula Sanguis
06-21-2010, 08:32 AM
Because he can prevent Rafa from reaching HC GS Final =P

scoobs
06-21-2010, 08:42 AM
It's 'MON actually, which makes it even more irritating.
Hewitt fans finding players shouting c'mon irritating :lol:

martyn
06-21-2010, 09:01 AM
I don't think Murray is particularly hated by his peers, save for the minor issue he had with Del Potro and the occasional comment from Federer.

Acer
06-21-2010, 09:02 AM
Hewitt fans finding players shouting c'mon irritating :lol:

pumped up vs gormless? I don't even have to THINK about it

Acer
06-21-2010, 09:03 AM
Bitch please, those are the ones who know they can never be with him, can't cope with the fact, and decide they will never love another man again, so they have to turn to women for solace. It's completely understandable.

Who in their right mind would want to be with him?

Just like heaven
06-21-2010, 09:25 AM
Murray is cute.

Acer
06-21-2010, 09:47 AM
You sick sick human being

safin-rules-no.1
06-21-2010, 09:51 AM
Murray is cute.

May i suggest seeing a doctor about your blindness?

safin-rules-no.1
06-21-2010, 09:53 AM
he also turns gay men straight :)

Put Martina Navratilova and Andy Murray sisde-by-side, i know which i'd choose. Hi pussy :wavey:

dav abu
06-21-2010, 10:22 AM
I don't hate Andy Murray but I find him very dislikeable. Sour, sullen and sulking on court..extremely negative. He is a steady solid player and could have a dynamic game but with his negativity pushes and pushes. Then there is the vomit enducing British tennis coverage where he regarded as some sort of deity, this isn't his fault of course even though I do think he can courts it at times.

Matt01
06-21-2010, 10:38 AM
Murray is cute.


I agree ;)

Turquoise
06-21-2010, 11:03 AM
Murray is an acquired taste. I have no idea how he snared me into his web - and it's nothing to do with his looks (though he looks half-decent nowadays).

zeleni
06-21-2010, 11:52 AM
I like Murray, just sometimes annoyed with some of his MTF fans.

Filo V.
06-21-2010, 12:00 PM
I don't hate Murray, but I'm not fond of him, the way he comes off personality wise turns me off, I don't like the way he pushes the ball, I don't like his on-court antics, he just lacks a spark for me and his many of his fans are delusional. He's overrated horribly, probably the most overrated player as of right now on the ATP tour. He isn't a GS threat at all anywhere outside of the US Open (and even there he isn't at the top of the list) until proven otherwise.

Langers
06-21-2010, 12:22 PM
He's boring. Very boring.

born_on_clay
06-21-2010, 12:29 PM
because Murray fans are gloryfying him and he has 0 (zero) slams so far

ORGASMATRON
06-21-2010, 12:29 PM
Immaturity and no balls.

born_on_clay
06-21-2010, 12:30 PM
I like Murray, just sometimes annoyed with some of his MTF fans.

agreed in 100% :D

born_on_clay
06-21-2010, 12:33 PM
Immaturity and no balls.

you hit the nail on the head :worship:

mystic ice cube
05-15-2011, 12:00 PM
Seriously? I'm not Scotish or anything so I'm not biased - just want to point that out, but I really like the guy's tenacity style of play & his overall uniqueness that he brings to the game. He has had three slam finals, and instead of respecting that for the age he is you people seem to bash him for it repeatedly (as far as I've come across). Personally, I'm a big Murray fan. Why? Because to me there is no one else like him on tour.

Sonja1989
05-15-2011, 12:07 PM
I like Murray and I don't have any idea why is he hated. Maybe because he is ugly (sorry, I know it isn't reason but it seems in this forum serious thing).

Defensive type of players aren't too popular anyway.

zlaja777
05-15-2011, 12:08 PM
I like Murray, just sometimes annoyed with some of his MTF fans.

This.

ssin
05-15-2011, 12:29 PM
wtf.. Murray is not ugly. And Nadal and Djokovic are more hated I think.

chenx15
05-15-2011, 12:33 PM
maybe because he looks like a rat

mystic ice cube
05-15-2011, 01:08 PM
maybe because he looks like a rat
I really can't believe you said that; especially for a man of your age. Yeah, sometimes I dislike people because of how they look, you shallow idiot.

delboy
05-15-2011, 01:28 PM
His attitude, his mentality, and personality (lack of) I guess. I don't think he's really hated at all though. As for looks there are alot worse looking tennis players...:o

rocketassist
05-15-2011, 02:38 PM
If people are sticking the boot in for his 0 slams then may as well rename this GloryHuntersForums.com.

Filo V.
05-15-2011, 02:39 PM
He's ugly.

nevenez
05-15-2011, 02:43 PM
He is hated cause he plays pusher tennis.

Alex999
05-15-2011, 02:46 PM
wtf.. Murray is not ugly. And Nadal and Djokovic are more hated I think.
That is so NOT true. Murray is the most hated player on MTF. I personally like him. He has a unique personality.

born_on_clay
05-15-2011, 02:47 PM
all you have mentioned

Ukyo
05-15-2011, 02:52 PM
because he's goat and i envy his fans due to all success hes achieving.

Johnny Groove
05-15-2011, 02:54 PM
Reasons I dislike Murray. Not hate.

1. Boring, pusher game
2. Terrible, amateur, immature on court behavior. shouting at box, getting mad when other player hits winner, etc.
3. Danger Ehren

Ukyo
05-15-2011, 03:01 PM
3. Danger Ehrenlol. kinda has effect on alot of people i guess

Alex999
05-15-2011, 03:02 PM
Reasons I dislike Murray. Not hate.

1. Boring, pusher game
2. Terrible, amateur, immature on court behavior. shouting at box, getting mad when other player hits winner, etc.
3. Danger Ehren
good one... I'll start hating Murray because of him :lol:

Sapeod
05-15-2011, 03:45 PM
wtf.. Murray is not ugly.
100% true. He's an average looking guy.
maybe because he looks like a rat

He's ugly.
Disgusting.

You two are a joke. Hating someone because of their looks if the lowest of the low
all you have mentioned
Oh really?
agreed in 100% :D
So, you apparently liked him, just didn't like his fans that much? What happened, gloryhunter?
3. Danger Ehren

lol. kinda has effect on alot of people i guess

good one... I'll start hating Murray because of him :lol:
Pathetic.

If you hate a player because of his fans or because of a particular fan, then you are mentally weak to not be able to put those fans aside. Mentally weak.

Ukyo
05-15-2011, 03:49 PM
or you're just a too strong turn off. lol.

Alex999
05-15-2011, 04:02 PM
100% true. He's an average looking guy.



Disgusting.

You two are a joke. Hating someone because of their looks if the lowest of the low

Oh really?

So, you apparently liked him, just didn't like his fans that much? What happened, gloryhunter?





Pathetic.

If you hate a player because of his fans or because of a particular fan, then you are mentally weak to not be able to put those fans aside. Mentally weak.
chill man. I like Murray, he is a great guy... very good player. However, you are always over the top with your comments ;. You hate Novak with passion. If I don't like a particular player I usually ignore him and don't make any comments. My favorite players are :1. Nole 2. Gasquet 3. Murray 4. Gonzo etc. I hope this help. You should give credit where credit is due, but you don't. My impression is that you are jealous of Djokovic because he is doing so much better than Muza, and that is sad ...buy hey, go on, whatever makes you happy. You are just wasting your energy ... it's not very healthy :-)

Jaz
05-15-2011, 04:08 PM
Why I dislike him:

1) His game is not pleasing in anyway:
1.1) He doesn't attack, forehand or backhand.
1.2) He's no where near the level of Federer or Djokovic when it comes to attacking Tennis.
1.3) He's passive and repetitive.
1.4) His second serve is awful
1.5) He has the mental fortitude of a 15 year old.
2) His on court demeanour is bad, he talks and abuses loudly, he cheers when the opponent shanks or makes an error.
3) His mother and his team.
4) The british hype.
5) He's scottish.

a_boy
05-15-2011, 04:12 PM
1. Not Tim Henman
2. Scottish
3. Ugly
4. That horrible face he does where he looks like Jaws emerging from the water to eat a fishing boat
6. Ugly
7. Boring, defensive style of play where he just waits for opponents error
8. Pusher
9. "Dour" (see 2.)
10. I'm sure there are more reasons so I'll list numbers 11 to 20 in case I want to fill them in later
11. How could I forget his mother? Thanks to the poster above!
12. He reminds me of Gordon Brown in some way (possibly see numbers 2 and 9)
13. He's a bit... well let's face it chaps... he's a bit common.
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:p

Sophocles
05-15-2011, 05:04 PM
It honestly baffles me. I cannot understand how people find his game boring. He's the closest thing to John McEnroe in the current game.

Rafa = Fed Killa
05-15-2011, 05:07 PM
Murray = delusional choking brain dead powerless child whose fans think he is even in the same league as Rafa or Nole

Roddickominator
05-15-2011, 05:33 PM
I would be a lot more curious if MTF DIDN'T hate Murray.

1. He's a pusher
2. Arrogant but pretends to be humble and respectful
3. Terrible attitude on court
4. No personality
5. Choker
6. Loser mentality
7. Terrible teeth and stupid facial expressions
8. Looks like a gay giraffe
9. Constantly fakes having an injury when he loses points
10. Overhyped
11. Waste of talent(see 1, 5, and 6)
12. The only time Murray is ever amusing is when a McEnroe is talking about his legs.

It's just a lot easier to dislike a guy like this.

Eliande
05-15-2011, 05:56 PM
maybe because he looks like a rat

Rats might get offended by this remark.:)

abraxas21
05-15-2011, 06:07 PM
MTF is more shallow than a pond

A question about why they dislike Murray and about half of the replies are about his looks. No wonder MTF also idolizes Safin for that matter.

Seriously, you guys are tools

abraxas21
05-15-2011, 06:08 PM
I would be a lot more curious if MTF DIDN'T hate Murray.

1. He's a pusher
2. Arrogant but pretends to be humble and respectful
3. Terrible attitude on court
4. No personality
5. Choker
6. Loser mentality
7. Terrible teeth and stupid facial expressions
8. Looks like a gay giraffe
9. Constantly fakes having an injury when he loses points
10. Overhyped
11. Waste of talent(see 1, 5, and 6)
12. The only time Murray is ever amusing is when a McEnroe is talking about his legs.

It's just a lot easier to dislike a guy like this.

and this comes from a roddick tard? hilarious :lol:

Roddickominator
05-15-2011, 06:16 PM
MTF is more shallow than a pond

A question about why they dislike Murray and about half of the replies are about his looks. No wonder MTF also idolizes Safin for that matter.

Seriously, you guys are tools

I doubt that there are many who only dislike Murray because of his unfortunate appearance. That is only a supplement to his terrible pusher game, personality, etc.

rocketassist
05-15-2011, 06:48 PM
1. Not Tim Henman
2. Scottish
3. Ugly
4. That horrible face he does where he looks like Jaws emerging from the water to eat a fishing boat
6. Ugly
7. Boring, defensive style of play where he just waits for opponents error
8. Pusher
9. "Dour" (see 2.)
10. I'm sure there are more reasons so I'll list numbers 11 to 20 in case I want to fill them in later
11. How could I forget his mother? Thanks to the poster above!
12. He reminds me of Gordon Brown in some way (possibly see numbers 2 and 9)
13. He's a bit... well let's face it chaps... he's a bit common.14.
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:p

Tory voting scumbag.

Matt01
05-15-2011, 07:07 PM
I really can't believe you said that; especially for a man of your age. Yeah, sometimes I dislike people because of how they look, you shallow idiot.


+1

I can understand to some degree when someone starts to dislike a player because of some over the top fans (Word Life) but because he's ugly, that's just shallow and pathetic. :help:


8. Looks like a gay giraffe


:spit: :rolleyes:

tangerine_dream
05-15-2011, 08:40 PM
I think some of the Murray hate is a result of the overbearing British press, which creates a backlash against British teams and players they continually overhype.

your_valentine
05-15-2011, 08:48 PM
+1

I can understand to some degree when someone starts to dislike a player because of some over the top fans (Word Life) but because he's ugly, that's just shallow and pathetic. :help:

Hmmm interesting. But on TF you're fanboying Wozniacki and Word Life is by far the most annoying poster. Has that made you change your about her?

To answer the question. Murray can be an annoying asshole. His behaviour sometimes really pisses me off. However I still like him and cheer for him most of the times.

Matt01
05-15-2011, 08:52 PM
Hmmm interesting. But on TF you're fanboying Wozniacki and Word Life is by far the most annoying poster. Has that made you change your about her?


I said I can understand it, not that I'm in favour of doing that or that I'm doing that myself.

your_valentine
05-15-2011, 08:53 PM
I said I can understand it, not that I'm in favour of doing that or that I'm doing that myself.

Oh indeed, I misread :lol:

decrepitude
05-15-2011, 09:09 PM
Is it just a coincidence that most of the more vicious Murray-haters are rabid fans of the players he gives a lot of trouble to?

safin-rules-no.1
05-15-2011, 09:25 PM
Hi. Murray's disgusting.

Orka_n
05-15-2011, 09:30 PM
I don't like his game nor his attitude, both on and off the court. :shrug: Not much to it.

tnosugar
05-15-2011, 09:32 PM
I think some of the Murray hate is a result of the overbearing British press, which creates a backlash against British teams and players they continually overhype.

probably true. britain is the cradle of tabloid journalism. still lead the way (unlike in all the sports they codified or invented :devil:

Murray is still an adolescent. That's the problem. If or when he grows up, he will match Novak completely and push Rafa to #3 :angel:

EDIT: And I actually like Murray, except when he whinges and bitches at the umpires. That's when his game is at its lowest.

Super Djoker
05-17-2011, 08:25 AM
I just plane don,t like Murray! Shouting come on after the other player makes a mistake does annoy me! He also has a passive style that I find very boring! I think after he cried after the Australian Open Final v Roger it improved his image over here in blighty! But now I think I am back to disliking him!

ssin
05-17-2011, 09:30 AM
1. Not Tim Henman
2. Scottish
3. Ugly
4. That horrible face he does where he looks like Jaws emerging from the water to eat a fishing boat
6. Ugly
7. Boring, defensive style of play where he just waits for opponents error
8. Pusher
9. "Dour" (see 2.)
10. I'm sure there are more reasons so I'll list numbers 11 to 20 in case I want to fill them in later
11. How could I forget his mother? Thanks to the poster above!
12. He reminds me of Gordon Brown in some way (possibly see numbers 2 and 9)
13. He's a bit... well let's face it chaps... he's a bit common.
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:p

obviously he is often perceived as a pusher, but actually his game has diversity and some flair. But other than his tennis, what do you exactly mean by "common"? Is it some purely British stuff, which the rest of the world usually does not share? Also, being Scottish should be a plus, why not ;) And I really don't get the ugly part.:confused: He surely makes strange faces when he plays, but off the court it's hard to describe him as ugly, the word is too heavy.

oranges
05-17-2011, 11:29 AM
Muzza is so easy to dislike, I'm surprised there's a need for a thread. It's a natural phenomenon, like rain or wind ;)

Fujee
05-17-2011, 01:08 PM
Never realising potential is a classic British trait, having some raw talent and being unable to execute it sucessfully on the world stage. Murray is a classic example of this, the only true coverage Tennis gets in British media is during Wimbledon and to a lesser extent other grand slams (mostly thanks to the BBC brilliantly airing them with no rival coverage) which Andy hasn't so far shown what he's capable of. He's got a very surly demeanour; while i respect that he wont change for the press, basic PR is an element of becoming a popular, loved player - which is of course incredibly helpful for sucess. He can be childish and poorly held in moments of frustration/defeat, plus overt explosions of testosterone isn't particularly held in high regard in British press, and by the looks of this site around the world (Hewitt and to a lesser extent, Rafa).

He's his own person, and respect to that. But essentially, so far he's not done anything which has truly earnt the adoration of fans which aren't so sure of him and press which wants a big/world beating winner.

xdrewitdajx
05-17-2011, 01:42 PM
I don't hate Murray, I almost feel bad for him because of all the GS pressure bullshit he's had to deal with.
But what I dislike about him is his attitude. I just wish he looked like he was having fun out there once in a while. When he makes errors, he's way too angry at himself. When he makes a great shot, it's almost like "well, this is what I should always be doing. I hate myself for not doing it all the time".
It makes you feel weird watching him, because he looks like he's not enjoying himself at all....I don't doubt he loves tennis, but that kind of attitude can't be helping him.
And I wish he would play more aggressive. But whatever, the attitude is the main thing.

zerocool_
05-17-2011, 01:51 PM
Why I dislike him:

1) His game is not pleasing in anyway:
1.1) He doesn't attack, forehand or backhand.
1.2) He's no where near the level of Federer or Djokovic when it comes to attacking Tennis.
1.3) He's passive and repetitive.
1.4) His second serve is awful
1.5) He has the mental fortitude of a 15 year old.
2) His on court demeanour is bad, he talks and abuses loudly, he cheers when the opponent shanks or makes an error.
3) His mother and his team.
4) The british hype.
5) He's scottish.

I agree about bold parts, not his fault for last 3. And i like Scots, just not Murray :)

Sham Kay
05-17-2011, 02:00 PM
I still don't get the British hype stuff.. He barely appears in the newspapers unless he gets to a GS semi, otherwise it's football football football, and obviously doesn't appear on the news.. other than that British commentators might hype him up I guess.. and all they say is- "is this his year!?" etc.. but that's really to be expected right?

To be fair on the British media, they don't hype him up anymore than other countries do for their own players. Well, from where I sit anyway.

Sleepy24seven
05-17-2011, 02:34 PM
+1

I can understand to some degree when someone starts to dislike a player because of some over the top fans (Word Life) but because he's ugly, that's just shallow and pathetic. :help:





:spit: :rolleyes:

Matt also posts on wta, and I must say that he is showing amazing growth as a person. Good for him =)

ssin
05-17-2011, 04:16 PM
I don't hate Murray, I almost feel bad for him because of all the GS pressure bullshit he's had to deal with.
But what I dislike about him is his attitude. I just wish he looked like he was having fun out there once in a while. When he makes errors, he's way too angry at himself. When he makes a great shot, it's almost like "well, this is what I should always be doing. I hate myself for not doing it all the time".
It makes you feel weird watching him, because he looks like he's not enjoying himself at all....I don't doubt he loves tennis, but that kind of attitude can't be helping him.
And I wish he would play more aggressive. But whatever, the attitude is the main thing.

Great observation. He needs to forget the hype and the burden and rediscover the joy of pure playing.

Fujee
05-17-2011, 04:21 PM
Exactly, he needs to say to himself I may not be as naturally gifted as a Federer or a Nadal, but i can play my tennis and still beat them. Rediscover the flow of his talent and not try and reach the impossible: so called "perfect tennis". Just play for himself, not beat himself up everytime he falls short. This is where i see the Lendl comparison as quite fitting, he's talented for sure.. but he isn't the most gifted the world has seen, just graft and play his way to eventually become a world beater.

peribsen
05-17-2011, 04:44 PM
They're completely in awe of his sheer sexual magnetism and this turns to bitterness and resentment.

He turns straight men gay and straight women moist. Only the lesbians are immune and even some of them waver.

Sucks Scoobs, you found us out! Of late I can't seem to avoid dreaming of Andy the moment I go to bed... Murray...murrrie... morritos-murray... it goes on and on until I'm about to see his face while he leaves the court after Wimby 10 SF... but then his mother gets in the way, I struggle frantically with her to get a glimpse of Andy... to no avail!... the alarm rings and I have to go to work, where I mostly just pass the time hoping that the next night I'll get to see the same scene right to the end...

OT, I've always rather liked Murray (despite some of his fans :devil:). I like him especially because of the way some people make fun of him. Love to see him win Wimby and step up to take the cup wearing a kilt and waving the saltire, but alas, Rafa won't let him :rolleyes:.

Seingeist
05-17-2011, 05:58 PM
I don't like his game nor his attitude, both on and off the court. :shrug: Not much to it.

This. An odd thread, really.

I don't mind his game as much, but his on-court attitude is disgraceful. I cannot think of another player on the tour that displays a more childish and bratty demeanor when things do not go his way. It's unpleasant to watch, to say the least.