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What's more important: Your fave player doing well or a player you dislike failing?

Eden
06-20-2010, 04:04 PM
Whilst reading comments on GM I always get the impression that for a lot of people it seems to be far more important that a player they don't like flops in a tournament instead of just concentrating on their favourite player and supporting them.

So I thought to make a poll about this :)

~*BGT*~
06-20-2010, 04:10 PM
I would like my favorite doing well because the one I dislike failed (Wimbledon SF 2009, Roddick df Murray :D)

star
06-20-2010, 04:12 PM
Of course it's better to see my favorite player doing well. That's so obvious. Fed fans have had the privilege of seeing their favorite doing well for many, many years and still seem to feel the need to belittle other players who triumph from time to time, so I don't know exactly what they are thinking.

Of course, Nadal doing well AND beating Federer to boot, is always :yeah:

Sapeod
06-20-2010, 04:13 PM
I much rather Murray winning than Nadull or Faker losing early, because Nadull and Faker would lose anyway if Murray won :shrug:

ORGASMATRON
06-20-2010, 04:16 PM
I much rather Murray winning than Nadull or Faker losing early, because Nadull and Faker would lose anyway if Murray won :shrug:

lol exactly. pointless thread. but not so pointless for mtf i guess.

l_mac
06-20-2010, 04:18 PM
My favourite doing well.

I honestly think most people here would prefer to see their favourite player doing well. I was disappointed to see how many people put Fed/Nadal to lose early as one of their wishes on the "3 Wishes for Wimbledon" thread. A bit pathetic.

Aenea
06-20-2010, 04:18 PM
Of course, Nadal doing well AND beating Federer to boot, is always :yeah:

:D

My fav doing well all the way :)

I don't really have players I don't like in general and always. There are players I don't like temporary - losing me a bet or a PAW pick, behaving like jerks in certain matches etc. I get mad with them for that match but then all my dislike goes away until next one loses me a bet/PAW pick etc.

Sapeod
06-20-2010, 04:19 PM
lol exactly. pointless thread. but not so pointless for mtf i guess.
Typical MTF :lol:

l_mac
06-20-2010, 04:20 PM
I much rather Murray winning than Nadull or Faker losing early, because Nadull and Faker would lose anyway if Murray won :shrug:

That wasn't the question. It was "doing well" rather than winning.

Would you rather Murray got to the Wimbledon final and lost to either Rafa or Nole, or he got to the QF but Rafa and Nole both lost in the 1st round?

I think you'd prefer the latter, but we can excuse you on account of your age.

andy neyer
06-20-2010, 04:24 PM
Of course it's better to see my favorite player doing well. That's so obvious. Fed fans have had the privilege of seeing their favorite doing well for many, many years and still seem to feel the need to belittle other players who triumph from time to time, so I don't know exactly what they are thinking.

Of course, Nadal doing well AND beating Federer to boot, is always :yeah:

Curiously enough, I didn't like Federer much when he was winning everything on sight back in 2004, 2005 and 2006. In point of fact, even though I liked his game a lot, I usually used to root against him because it was pretty boring to see him winning virtually everything. It was only when he started to lose more often that I found myself rooting for him for some reason.

octatennis
06-20-2010, 05:16 PM
both complement each other well. when you are on one of those circunstances the other help you and viceversa.
win-win situation.

Sapeod
06-20-2010, 05:19 PM
That wasn't the question. It was "doing well" rather than winning.

Would you rather Murray got to the Wimbledon final and lost to either Rafa or Nole, or he got to the QF but Rafa and Nole both lost in the 1st round?

I think you'd prefer the latter, but we can excuse you on account of your age.
I'd much rather he won and Faker and Nadull both lost early :shrug:

There again with the age thing. You do know I won't fall into your trap and get banned, don't you?

l_mac
06-20-2010, 05:22 PM
I'd much rather he won and Faker and Nadull both lost early :shrug:


That wasn't what you were asked. It's okay :hug:

Sapeod
06-20-2010, 05:23 PM
That wasn't what you were asked. It's okay :hug:
I know it isn't, it's what I would rather. Out of the scenarios you said, I would rather Murray reached the final. The loss to Faker/Nadull would be hard to take though.

paseo
06-20-2010, 05:38 PM
I'll have both. Thank you.

oranges
06-20-2010, 05:43 PM
I'd settle my faves playing at all right now

Noleta
06-20-2010, 06:05 PM
I don't care about the rest,if my favourites are doing well.:p

star
06-20-2010, 06:06 PM
I'd settle my faves playing at all right now

:hug:

And that's the other thing. "Doing well" sometimes means just being able to participate or go deep in a tournament. It's hard to go through long injuries where a favorite player can't play and it's not certain he ever will play again. I've been through that with any number of my favorites. Shoulder injuries, hip injuries, and some brain injuries too. :lol: That's one of the reasons it was so wonderful to see Lleyton playing well after so many years of suffering through injury.

born_on_clay
06-20-2010, 10:11 PM
My favourite player doing well

tkr
06-20-2010, 10:25 PM
Definetely number two! My hate is stronger than my love...

Mjau!
06-20-2010, 10:37 PM
My favourite doing well.

I honestly think most people here would prefer to see their favourite player doing well. I was disappointed to see how many people put Fed/Nadal to lose early as one of their wishes on the "3 Wishes for Wimbledon" thread. A bit pathetic.

Maybe they are just tired of seeing at least one of them in every GS final? Some variety would be nice.

bleu_cheese
06-20-2010, 10:51 PM
My favourite doing well.

I honestly think most people here would prefer to see their favourite player doing well. I was disappointed to see how many people put Fed/Nadal to lose early as one of their wishes on the "3 Wishes for Wimbledon" thread. A bit pathetic.

...says the person with "I don't like Djokovic" below their name.

Having said that, I think there is a certain merit to both feelings. Of course I want to see players I prefer doing well; that leads to tennis with preferable styles, attitudes, looks, what have you in the later stages of a tournament. Conversely, the same is true. When players you dislike lose, then as long as the hate is not for arbitrary reasons, than the resultant tennis will be more enjoyable. Now, when a collection a people with different likes and dislikes meets, the ensuing discussions would no doubt be horrific. Luckily, no such meeting place will ever arise :D.

l_mac
06-20-2010, 10:55 PM
...says the person with "I don't like Djokovic" below their name.


I don't like him. But the big pic of Nadal in my signature, avatar and my posting history can tell you which is more important - my appreciation of Rafa, or my dislike of Novak. :)

Certinfy
06-20-2010, 10:58 PM
My fave doing well.

cobalt60
06-20-2010, 11:01 PM
I need "other" as an option.

bleu_cheese
06-20-2010, 11:03 PM
I don't like him. But the big pic of Nadal in my signature, avatar and my posting history can tell you which is more important - my appreciation of Rafa, or my dislike of Novak. :)

Yes, of course. Just pointing it out, being the fan of irony that I am. Nobody is so perfect as to not have players they dislike.

You'd better hope Nadal goes easy on the rides. I went to Disneyland the day before a tennis tournament, and I was already tired out before the matches began!

Getta
06-20-2010, 11:05 PM
i don't dislike anyone anymore.

l_mac
06-21-2010, 12:22 AM
Yes, of course. Just pointing it out, being the fan of irony that I am. Nobody is so perfect as to not have players they dislike.


Noone suggested that.

It would only be ironic if I had posted that my 3 wishes were for Nole to lose in R1, or R2, or R3. I'm not complaining about people disliking or even hating any player. I just think it's pathetic when you would rather see someone do badly than someone you like do well. :shrug:

christallh24
06-21-2010, 12:41 AM
I much rather Murray winning than Nadull or Faker losing early, because Nadull and Faker would lose anyway if Murray won :shrug:

Which translates into you'd rather Rafa and Nole lost early instead of Andy doing well.

Curiously enough, I didn't like Federer much when he was winning everything on sight back in 2004, 2005 and 2006. In point of fact, even though I liked his game a lot, I usually used to root against him because it was pretty boring to see him winning virtually everything. It was only when he started to lose more often that I found myself rooting for him for some reason.

This was the opposite for me. I was a fan of Roger before he even won a major. When he started winning everything, it only validated my support of him because I thought he could be a great player. If people can remember back then, there was a bit of chatter as to whether Fed would reach his potential. The hot-headed, racquet smashing Fed seems to be forgotten about now.

When he started winning, and winnning, and winning, I thought it was great. But, when Rafa, Nole and Andy were coming onto the scene and Roger started losing a bit more frequently, I begin to see a side of Roger that turned me off. The arrogance, snide asides, qualifing losses, discounting other players achievements, and talking out of both sides of his mouth at times, made me sour on him more and more. But the most point turning for me, I just got bored of him. The more he became the three c's detached swiss, the more less emotionally invested I was.

Now, with all that said, I don't hate Roger or any player really. Don't really care too much one way or the other except to use him as a counter on Rafa/Nole hating. So, no, I'd rather see Rafa and Novak doing well, going far and winning tournaments.

bleu_cheese
06-21-2010, 12:42 AM
Noone suggested that.

It would only be ironic if I had posted that my 3 wishes were for Nole to lose in R1, or R2, or R3. I'm not complaining about people disliking or even hating any player. I just think it's pathetic when you would rather see someone do badly than someone you like do well. :shrug:

Hmm, you're right. I've changed my mind. The only reason someone does well is because they deserve to do well. Just because you don't prefer their style of play has nothing to do with the effectiveness of those tactics. I'm not a fan of Nadal, but I have a grudging respect for his ability to win.

Topspin Forehand
06-21-2010, 12:43 AM
No doubt I'd rather have Nadal win it but a consolation prize is Fed losing. ;) Thus allowing someone unknown win it.

Filo V.
06-21-2010, 12:45 AM
Only losers wish negative on players. Or are so fixated negatively on a player that it overrides their favorites' success.

brent-o
06-21-2010, 12:46 AM
No doubt I'd rather have Nadal win it but a consolation prize is Fed losing. ;) Thus allowing someone unknown win it.

That's exactly how I feel ;)

ApproachShot
06-21-2010, 12:51 AM
Gnerally speaking, I don't find negative wishes particularly constructive in any walk of life. Moreover, a tournament victory by one's favourite player by default means they will have by definition outperformed a player who may be less liked by that individual.

So in that regard it's good to see that over 90% at the time of writing prefer the first option in the poll to the second.

Mjau!
06-21-2010, 02:23 AM
My biggest dream is to watch Fedal lose in the first week of a slam. I'd cry tears of joy if that happened.

KarlyM
06-21-2010, 04:14 AM
I always root for my favorites. Even if they are all out of a tournament, I usually pick one of the players left to root for. :)

raahaat7
06-21-2010, 06:02 AM
I don't care about the rest,if my favourites are doing well.:p
This. Is there a room for hate in sport, unless the other guy calls your favourite player's sister a " Prostitute".

I_Dasco
06-21-2010, 06:05 AM
Oooh.. Both toghether is cool, but i try to be nice so i say my fav doing well is better than

raahaat7
06-21-2010, 06:06 AM
My biggest dream is to watch Fedal lose in the first week of a slam. I'd cry tears of joy if that happened.

:sad:

Pirata.
06-21-2010, 06:22 AM
Faves winning.

osalsyst
06-21-2010, 07:21 AM
Let's go Jurgen!

Caerula Sanguis
06-21-2010, 07:33 AM
I always love to see Nadal lose because it'll take a perfect attacking game to do it.
Fed usually lost because he sprayed error every where so that's not really entertaining.

Action Jackson
06-21-2010, 07:36 AM
Other for obvious reasons.

ad-out
06-21-2010, 07:25 PM
Much rather have my favorite do well!

Eden
08-15-2010, 11:00 PM
I need "other" as an option.

First I wanted to include "I don't care" or "I'm just interested in seeing a good match" as an opfion, Sue, but then decided only to allow to choose between 2 options ;)

acionescu
08-15-2010, 11:01 PM
I can't believe that's a thread opened by you, Doris :lol:

Eden
08-15-2010, 11:04 PM
I can't believe that's a thread opened by you, Doris :lol:

Why?

Reading GM really gives me the impression that for the majority of people it's far more important that a player they don't like loses in a tournament judging from the amount of posts they have about that player instead of their favourite one.

acionescu
08-15-2010, 11:10 PM
Of course but did you see the results of the poll? :lol:

For them is not i hate him and i want him to lose no, it's:

1. I want more variety in GS winners
2. I want the attacking style to prevail
3. Good for the game, etc....

Serenidad
08-16-2010, 07:58 AM
Daniel Brands doing well is important to everyone. This is why he's so good.