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What's up with Murray?

JCF
06-19-2010, 02:01 PM
Why has he been so poor since the Australian Open? Is it a mental thing or much more than that?

DualMedia
06-19-2010, 02:04 PM
nothing is wrong!

Sapeod
06-19-2010, 02:08 PM
Nothing is wrong with him anymore. He lost to Fish because Fish was playing great tennis, and he lost in RG because it's on clay. He'll play well in the second half of the year, hardcourt season.

JCF
06-19-2010, 02:10 PM
Hmmm, I'm not sure I think there is more than that. He just doesn't seem to have that fighting spark that he had before for a start....

Sapeod
06-19-2010, 02:25 PM
Hmmm, I'm not sure I think there is more than that. He just doesn't seem to have that fighting spark that he had before for a start....
No there isn't. Not anymore. He has said that he is back to training more.

Johnny Groove
06-19-2010, 02:28 PM
If he doesn't get his act together, he'll be out of the top 5 soon.

Sapeod
06-19-2010, 02:33 PM
He'll end the year in the top 4 again.

philosophicalarf
06-19-2010, 02:37 PM
Clearly had zero interest in tennis till about Rome. Now about slowly regaining match focus. I wondered a while back if he'd decided to focus almost entirely on slams - that question is still up in the air, we won't really know till the end of the year.

If he plays to his recent level, he'll probably go out in the qfs to Tsonga, and likely he'll drop to 6 after Wimbledon. Also defends 1360 points at Cinci+Canada, but after that he can start to pick up lots of points (early exit US Open, skipped Asian swing, tanked Paris).

christallh24
06-19-2010, 03:03 PM
If he plays to his recent level, he'll probably go out in the qfs to Tsonga,

I can't see him losing to Jo-Willie. Not at Wimbledon, at least. As for what's wrong with him, he had a hard, soul crushing loss. In my opinion, he getting his fire back and is playing better. I expect to see him at the SF's.

Priam
06-19-2010, 03:06 PM
He just beat Youzhny at Hurlingham 4 and 3.

Young 8
06-19-2010, 03:14 PM
He sucks

Sofonda Cox
06-19-2010, 03:52 PM
He sucks

:)

Sapeod
06-19-2010, 03:53 PM
He sucks
No he doesn't :)

philosophicalarf
06-19-2010, 03:55 PM
I can't see him losing to Jo-Willie. Not at Wimbledon, at least.


I'd agree, it is a slam after all ......but how much can he summon at will? Like I said, at his recent level he's not winning that match, and it's not easy to find an extra gear out of nowhere.

Fortunate he has such an easy draw .... for the second year in a row (would be suspicious if Nadal's wasn't so brutal).

Clydey
06-19-2010, 06:02 PM
I'd agree, it is a slam after all ......but how much can he summon at will? Like I said, at his recent level he's not winning that match, and it's not easy to find an extra gear out of nowhere.

Fortunate he has such an easy draw .... for the second year in a row (would be suspicious if Nadal's wasn't so brutal).

What makes you think Tsonga will beat him on grass? Jo has done very little on the surface.

Luinir
06-19-2010, 06:03 PM
He can't play tennis.

Acer
06-19-2010, 06:05 PM
Federer broke him

philosophicalarf
06-19-2010, 06:20 PM
What makes you think Tsonga will beat him on grass?

My guess is Murray wakes up and wins - but the point was more that at his recent level he's screwed against anyone competent. Tsonga, if fit, will have great fun teeing off against the passive rubbish Murray has been dealing up lately.


Jo has done very little on the surface.

Yeah, but he's only been a top level player since 2008. He missed the grass season that year, and 2009 ran into Karlovic serving the best stuff of his career (averaging 2x his normal ace rate), and not choking in tiebreaks as he usually does.

However, 2007 he showed a decent level on grass, pretty much as the basics of his game would suggest. Beat Karlovic in the Surbiton final 2007, then Hewitt at Queens - that was the first I saw of him.

malisha
06-19-2010, 06:21 PM
hes fine

wait a few weeks and youll see it

malisha
06-19-2010, 06:22 PM
What makes you think Tsonga will beat him on grass? Jo has done very little on the surface.

Tsonga is an awful returner

Amber Spyglass
06-19-2010, 06:31 PM
Clearly had zero interest in tennis till about Rome. Now about slowly regaining match focus. I wondered a while back if he'd decided to focus almost entirely on slams - that question is still up in the air, we won't really know till the end of the year.

If he plays to his recent level, he'll probably go out in the qfs to Tsonga, and likely he'll drop to 6 after Wimbledon. Also defends 1360 points at Cinci+Canada, but after that he can start to pick up lots of points (early exit US Open, skipped Asian swing, tanked Paris).

Tsonga is by farrrrrrrrrr the most overrated player on tour, no joke.He is the definition of "brainless ballbasher" and when I say brainless, I mean brainless (certainly on the tennis front).And even still,he's hopeless at that too,he gets the ball in court about 40% of the time for 80% of the year,a threat for Murray here? Yeah sure thing ;)

oranges
06-19-2010, 06:40 PM
Too bad he isn't in Djokovic's quarter so that he can brainlessly trounce him for the 6th time :kiss:

raahaat7
06-19-2010, 06:41 PM
he will have a smooth run upto the semis.

Amber Spyglass
06-19-2010, 07:03 PM
Too bad he isn't in Djokovic's quarter so that he can brainlessly trounce him for the 6th time :kiss:

I was well aware of that when I wrote the post :kiss:
And to my mind it is the biggest embarrassment of Djokovic's career that he let that muppet with zero tennis I.Q beat him so many times

oranges
06-20-2010, 08:50 AM
I was well aware of that when I wrote the post :kiss:


I know you were, how would you not. It doesn't make it any less sweet to bring it up. :kiss:

Perhaps, to sweeten things up further, I should add that it's far more brainless for player's with good aggressive games that obviously bring results to adopt a defensive style and stick with it despite their results taking a dip. You'd think Novak learned from Roddick, but no. Who knows, maybe he's aiming for the amazing feat of 10 years in top 10 as well, going out in quarters of slams is less important. *snickers*

e476
06-20-2010, 09:25 AM
McEnroe nows says that Murray won't have a great chance to win a Grand Slam until the 2011 US Open. I am starting to doubt that he's going to win period. Mentally, he's not as tough as he should be in the big moments. He was devastated for months after the Australian Open final loss, according to an interview published in the Daily Mirror (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-1287989/WIMBLEDON-2010-Andy-Murray-Do-really-believe-I-win-Wimbledon.html?ITO=1490).

Yet Murray has failed the three most critical tests of his career: the US Open final in 2008, the Wimbledon semi-final 12 months ago and the Australian Open final in January, where he shed tears without inviting criticism. The loss in Australia hit him hardest.

‘In Australia, I was the most disappointed I’ve ever felt. It was difficult to lose because I thought that I was going to win,’ he said. ‘I don’t know if it hurt me really badly but I had given everything I had and, maybe, that’s why I became emotional. It was not just the disappointment of those two weeks but I knew everything that I had put into the build-up in December and January.’ The fall-out from that defeat has lingered longer in his mind than he could ever have imagined.

Bobby
06-20-2010, 10:00 AM
Bad forehand, mental weakness and passive game will probably let him down. The forehand is a big issue for him.

Filo V.
06-20-2010, 01:34 PM
The main problem with him and also his fans is the fact he/they don't realize he's overrated.

BigJohn
06-20-2010, 01:35 PM
Things have not really improved since he hired image consultants. I believe that was a mistake.

He needs to embrace his ugliness. Ultimately, that is what really sets him apart.

angry1
06-20-2010, 02:14 PM
McEnroe nows says that Murray won't have a great chance to win a Grand Slam until the 2011 US Open. I am starting to doubt that he's going to win period. Mentally, he's not as tough as he should be in the big moments. He was devastated for months after the Australian Open final loss, according to an interview published in the Daily Mirror (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-1287989/WIMBLEDON-2010-Andy-Murray-Do-really-believe-I-win-Wimbledon.html?ITO=1490).

In what way was the semi he lost a bigger moment than the 2 he won?

He's failed in the 2 biggest matches is accurate why not stick to that rather than dishonest rubbish.He's failed in 3 of his 5 biggest matches would also be accurate.So many British journalists are useless.

reggie1
06-20-2010, 03:17 PM
I actually think Murray not being the on form player of the moment does him a favour in a back handed kind of way. This time last year, everybody was expecting him to be Wimbledon Champion within the fortnight and right now, nobody over here is really thinking that that's on the cards to be honest. Whilst, he is never going to go "unnoticed", there isn't the same amount of pressure on him this year and that must make him feel a bit more comfortable and hopefully, he will get a decent run. I like him, he is hardworking, dedicated, talented (we all have our own ideas of what talent is), honest and a breath of fresh air to British tennis. The coverage and hype last year was intolerable for everybody, not least Sue Barker who was wetting her knickers everytime his name was mentioned.

Stefanos13
06-20-2010, 03:37 PM
I actually think Murray not being the on form player of the moment does him a favour in a back handed kind of way. This time last year, everybody was expecting him to be Wimbledon Champion within the fortnight and right now, nobody over here is really thinking that that's on the cards to be honest. Whilst, he is never going to go "unnoticed", there isn't the same amount of pressure on him this year and that must make him feel a bit more comfortable and hopefully, he will get a decent run. I like him, he is hardworking, dedicated, talented (we all have our own ideas of what talent is), honest and a breath of fresh air to British tennis. The coverage and hype last year was intolerable for everybody, not least Sue Barker who was wetting her knickers everytime his name was mentioned.

What a great down to earth post. A rare sight in here! :) and i'm not a Murray fan

On a different note, Sue Barker wets her knickers every time she's about to say something. What a bore...

Amber Spyglass
06-20-2010, 07:08 PM
I know you were, how would you not. It doesn't make it any less sweet to bring it up. :kiss:

Perhaps, to sweeten things up further, I should add that it's far more brainless for player's with good aggressive games that obviously bring results to adopt a defensive style and stick with it despite their results taking a dip. You'd think Novak learned from Roddick, but no. Who knows, maybe he's aiming for the amazing feat of 10 years in top 10 as well, going out in quarters of slams is less important. *snickers*

The word is "sniggers" dude ;)
Ok so to the reply you were hoping for and I don't like to disappoint :hysteric: :hysteric: Djokovic really lost to Tsonga 5 times? Say it ain't so :sad: :sad:
So that's the desired two year old response out of the way and FYI Djokovic does not not want to play defensive but it's a combination of lost confidence due to serve(yes hiring Martin was brainless but listening to his retarded serving advice even moreso) and other contributing factors.But he will play an aggressive gamestyle again once he sorts out these things,from his interviews he has clearly stated that he doesn't want to play defensive and wants to get back to his old game which will probably come in time when he sorts the serve out.
And send back whatever smartass response you want dude,my feelings aren't all that delicate:sad:
And I have no problem with Fed,Nadal,Murray,Oli Rochus or any other player who has beaten Djok a million times if that's what you think I'm sour about,I just simply find Tsonga brainless unlike other big hitters- Berdych/Soderling and of course Del Potro who are all very impressive

oranges
06-20-2010, 07:12 PM
The word is "sniggers" dude ;)
snicker, verb
1. to laugh in a sly or derisive, partly stifled manner

Ok so to the reply you were hoping for and I don't like to disappoint :hysteric: :hysteric:

I'm not sure what made you think I was looking for any response at all. I've had my fun all on my own ridiculing your bashing of a player. That's it.

Amber Spyglass
06-20-2010, 07:36 PM
snicker, verb
1. to laugh in a sly or derisive, partly stifled manner



I'm not sure what made you think I was looking for any response at all. I've had my fun all on my own ridiculing your bashing of a player. That's it.

My sincerest apologies :angel: I've looked up the dictionery and for Snicker it says:same as snigger and then for snigger it gives what you said for snicker so it's all the same.My confusion most likely stemmed from the fact that people pronounce it snigger 99% of the time and I've never heard anybody say snicker,though it's probably spelt that way quite a bit :)

As for the second part, I'm glad you had some fun with it, I like making people happy and if my post about Tsonga provided the inspiration for your fun then I'm very very happy for you :D

propi
06-20-2010, 08:35 PM
He just beat Youzhny at Hurlingham 4 and 3.
Isn't that the same score Roddick beat Misha in an exho tournament the week before Roland Garros?? :p

ORGASMATRON
06-20-2010, 08:50 PM
murray lacks the maturity to win slams in this era where there are no easy slams to win. if you look at him and delpo they are basically complete opposites. murray does well in the MM tourneys whereas delpo won a big one. delpo has the mental strength which murray lacks. murray pushes when he gets tight, delpo goes for more. u dont win slams by pushing. if you go down you go down firing.

Mjau!
06-21-2010, 01:43 AM
Era got stronger? :unsure: