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How far will tomic go this year

collo1978
06-19-2010, 05:51 AM
Honestly, how far do you think tomic will go this year at wimbledon.

"I'm sure I will be No. 1 one day - it's just a matter of when and where, and when I grow out of my body," Tomic junior assured The Age this week in Brisbane. (http://www.theage.com.au/sport/tennis/all-the-rage-bernard-tomic-20100108-lz12.html)

paseo
06-19-2010, 06:29 AM
I'm sorry, but he'll lose to Fish in the 1st round.

Tonkie13
06-19-2010, 06:31 AM
yeah pretty big chance he'll lose to Fish, Fish played pretty good at Queens while i haven't seen Tomic playing good in a while, unlucky draw :(

collo1978
06-19-2010, 06:32 AM
ok i'll hold you to that

Tonkie13
06-19-2010, 06:37 AM
ok do that, how old is he BTW?

oranges
06-19-2010, 06:56 AM
:haha: at the quote

ossie
06-19-2010, 07:12 AM
pure comedy :haha:
he should consider himself lucky if he gets past fish in the first round i wouldnt bet my house on him :rolleyes:

bleu_cheese
06-19-2010, 07:21 AM
"I'm sure I will be No. 1 one day - it's just a matter of when and where, and when I grow out of my body," Tomic junior assured The Age this week in Brisbane.

Yeah, he'll be number one at this year's ego awards. I'm sure he'll be at the top one day, but nothing is a given.

andy neyer
06-19-2010, 07:24 AM
Nothing bad with having self-confidence.

Give me that instead of fake PC blokes who will most likely say they are ready to give their 110% all the time.

oranges
06-19-2010, 07:30 AM
People really need to check the meaning of self-confidence. Those who have it as a rule don't need to brag. Bragging when there's nothing to brag about falls under douchbaggery.

NADALbULLS
06-19-2010, 07:42 AM
Hopefully all the way to the final. But he's no Nadal, so far from a lock.

gorgo1986
06-19-2010, 07:52 AM
He will go far.... lose in four sets to Fish in first round. LOL

andy neyer
06-19-2010, 07:53 AM
People really need to check the meaning of self-confidence. Those who have it as a rule don't need to brag. Bragging when there's nothing to brag about falls under douchbaggery.

He's not bragging at all; he's only making a prediction about himself based on his own perceptions because he believes in himself and in his abilities. Self-confidence is thinking that you you have what it takes to accomplish whatever you set your mind to. That's exactly what I get from that quote.

gorgo1986
06-19-2010, 08:01 AM
Well I think Tomic is a very talented kid but I think he/his family are putting too much pressure way to early.

Selby
06-19-2010, 08:03 AM
I think Fish should beat him really if he serves well.

oranges
06-19-2010, 08:27 AM
He's not bragging at all; he's only making a prediction about himself based on his own perceptions because he believes in himself and in his abilities. Self-confidence is thinking that you you have what it takes to accomplish whatever you set your mind to. That's exactly what I get from that quote.

Really, go figure, I'd think when you're not even in top 100, but you're stating No1 is just a matter of time, you're being an insufferable bragging douche, as well as stupid because smart self-confident kids/men set themselves realistic goals for the foreseeable future, say crack the top 100 at this point. As it is, you create huge expectations for yourself and even when you make progress, you have no real sense of achievement whatsoever because your proclaimed goal is still light years away. Of course, if the aim is primarily to get attention and preferably validation for baseless bragging, then this is definitely the way to go. That's exactly what I get from this quote, an attention seeking brat who has no idea what it takes to get to No1 and frankly, who cares, he's getting what he wants right now. He'll think about the implications of that statement in a few years when it's time to deliver and he isn't delivering, but until then, he'll enjoy his current position.

andy neyer
06-19-2010, 08:54 AM
Really, go figure, I'd think when you're not even in top 100, but you're stating No1 is just a matter of time, you're being an insufferable bragging douche, as well as stupid because smart self-confident kids/men set themselves realistic goals for the foreseeable future, say crack the top 100 at this point.

Interesting.

"[At Ecublens] we had to fill out a form stating our goals. Everybody wrote 'to some day be among the top 100 in the world', but Roger [Federer] was the only one to write 'to first be in the top 10 in the world and then become number 1'. From that point on, we viewed him in a different light".
Yves Allegro

As it is, you create huge expectations for yourself and even when you make progress, you have no real sense of achievement whatsoever because your proclaimed goal is still light years away.

That depends from person to person and in any case it would be the player's issue so why feel bothered by it or declare that he's a douchebag when at most he's the only one who might feel the pressure derived from his own statements? At any rate, he's only one affected by the goals he has set up for himself.

Of course, if the aim is primarily to get attention and preferably validation for baseless bragging, then this is definitely the way to go.

Your assumption. Fact is that he's merely stating a personal goal which happens to be quite bold. That's all.

That's exactly what I get from this quote, an attention seeking brat who has no idea what it takes to get to No1 and frankly, who cares, he's getting what he wants right now.

Okay. That's what YOU get.

He'll think about the implications of that statement in a few years when it's time to deliver and he isn't delivering, but until then, he'll enjoy his current position.

Man, I guess Federer must have also kicked within himself to no end when he wasn't delivering during the first years of his career for having filled out that form when he was 16.

Btw, the quote is from January this year... That said, I don't even like Tomic but I respect his ambitions and even more his willingness to make it public. It shows courage and self-confidence on his part, imo.

petar_pan
06-19-2010, 09:18 AM
he could reach 1/8 final

oranges
06-19-2010, 09:19 AM
You'll suffer some major karmic punishment for comparing Tomic with Federer. For starters, he doesn't have that talent, not even close, as in galaxies and galaxies away. Secondly, I don't remember Federer bragging about getting to No1 as a given even when he was in top 50. AFAIK, he waited until he was a multiple slam winner to get smug. It's one thing to have ambitions, it's another to announce them publicly and yet another to say "it's just a matter of time". Plenty of players dream and believe they'll get to No1, they're just not idiots. They work on achieving that goal more than blab about it.

samanosuke
06-19-2010, 09:24 AM
Fish will easily beat him

Helevorn
06-19-2010, 09:34 AM
he's gonna lose in straights against fish

andy neyer
06-19-2010, 09:35 AM
You'll suffer some major karmic punishment for comparing Tomic with Federer. For starters, he doesn't have that talent, not even close, as in galaxies and galaxies away.

I'm certainly not comparing their capacities or talent, merely their initial ambitions and their willingness to make them public.

Secondly, I don't remember Federer bragging about getting to No1 as a given even when he was in top 50.

How could have he bragged about something he didn't even possess?
Going back in time, when he was 16 he stated a very ambititius goal that seemed far away at the time, same as Tomic this year. Yet, Federer made it. That's all there is to it. Will that be the case of Tomic? I have no idea. However, to say that he's a stupid "insufferable bragging douche" just for stating his main objective is something that I can't understand.

It's one thing to have ambitions, it's another to announce them publicly and yet another to say "it's just a matter of time".

He's convinced about it because he's self-confident about his abilities. A player needs to believe in himself in order to reach his goals.

Plenty of players dream and believe they'll get to No1, they're just not idiots. They work on achieving that goal more than blab about it.

And you think Tomic talks more about achieving that goal then actually work on achieving it?

madmax
06-19-2010, 09:36 AM
I guess reaching first round was more than he could dream about this year...dude doesn't have a game yet to threaten top guys

oranges
06-19-2010, 09:45 AM
Andy Neyer, you're free to salute Tomic for being a douche, but it doesn't make him any more confident in his abilities nor any more capable then those who do not act like idiots. It's not a prerequisite for either being self-confident or becoming a top player. I think history has also demonstrated in abundance that having a big mouth doesn't guarantee any of it either. He's so not going to be No1 ever but sadly it's too far away to be able to snicker about it.

Certinfy
06-19-2010, 09:50 AM
I so hope Fish trashes him.

born_on_clay
06-19-2010, 11:42 AM
I hope for a big upsets in both first and second rounds :devil:
Go Tomic !

born_on_clay
06-19-2010, 11:43 AM
I so hope Fish trashes him.

:rolleyes:

HarryMan
06-19-2010, 11:48 AM
I'm sure I will be No. 1 one day - it's just a matter of when and where, and when I grow out of my body


I like the guy's ambition but this is a very bold statement to make especially the "it's just a matter of when and where".

I hope for his sake he does well but there are 100's of players with lots of potential who never make it to the top 10 (let along the top position). I just hope he works on his game and doesn't let such unrealistic goals at this point in time, disappoint him in the future, when he realises there are many players with great capabilities out there, and not let his eventual losses bring him down. Being number one means being the most consistent player. It's not easy being a Federer or a Nadal, but then again, let's wait and see what this kid can deliver. :)

misty1
06-19-2010, 12:19 PM
first of all i hope he never reaches number one..let me just say that. Let me also just say that if he does get to number one he'll be the most inconsistent number one ever if he doesnt get better on clay.
I actully see him more like murray, lingering near the top forever but never actually getting there.

Anyway on to the topic of the thread
If he does not lose in the first round to fish then he will lose to cilic.

docking34
06-19-2010, 03:28 PM
fish should cook him for dinner