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Fans and their unrealistic expectations

SheepleBuster
06-13-2010, 05:42 PM
It always bothers me to hear people say Federer is done or Nadal is no good, or Murray will not challenge for Wimbledon when they lose a match. Sure. Federer should not lose to Hewitt nor should Nadal to Lopez or Murray to Fish. But let's be serious. Everybody loses. Some of these guys have been so consistent. I agree that Murray doesn't even belong in this conversation as he has not won a slam. Still, is it fair for fans to write people off even before the games are played?

Discuss

christallh24
06-13-2010, 05:47 PM
Oh, how timely. "Fans" are unrealistic on the days Roger loses. Right. Got it.

rafa_maniac
06-13-2010, 05:50 PM
It always bothers me to hear people say Federer is done or Nadal is no good, or Murray will not challenge for Wimbledon when they lose a match. Sure. Federer should not lose to Hewitt nor should Nadal to Lopez or Murray to Fish. But let's be serious. Everybody loses. Some of these guys have been so consistent. I agree that Murray doesn't even belong in this conversation as he has not won a slam. Still, is it fair for fans to write people off even before the games are played?

Discuss

Where was this post two days ago when you were ragging on Rafa for losing? :rolleyes: Obviously I agree with the sentiment though.

Action Jackson
06-13-2010, 05:51 PM
Cyrus, the master of the knee jerk reaction.

SheepleBuster
06-13-2010, 06:28 PM
Where was this post two days ago when you were ragging on Rafa for losing? :rolleyes: Obviously I agree with the sentiment though.

Listen. I admit. I am biased when it comes to Rafa. I don't like the guy. But I don't think he is done, even if I said he was done :devil: I do hope he is done though. Makes sense?

Jills
06-13-2010, 07:38 PM
Federer should not lose to Hewitt nor should Nadal to Lopez or Murray to Fish. But let's be serious. Everybody loses. Some of these guys have been so consistent.

In the case of Federer and Murray, consistently bad since AO. That's the problem. Not one or two dumb losses, but many.

Fedicilous
06-13-2010, 07:45 PM
The difference is that Federer won that slam, and he has 16 in overall. Murray is much younger and slamless.

star
06-13-2010, 08:55 PM
Listen. I admit. I am biased when it comes to Rafa. I don't like the guy. But I don't think he is done, even if I said he was done :devil: I do hope he is done though. Makes sense?

Yes. You're saying the opposite of Federer when he said he didn't hope for it but he believed in it.

You don't believe in it, but you hope for it. :yeah:

christallh24
06-13-2010, 09:16 PM
Yes. You're saying the opposite of Federer when he said he didn't hope for it but he believed in it.

Did Roger really say that? How...like Roger. Just loss even more respect for him. And he was a player that just two years ago, I was a fan of. When people where declaring him over, did Rafael say he was done?

Sunset of Age
06-13-2010, 11:47 PM
Did Roger really say that? How...like Roger. Just loss even more respect for him. And he was a player that just two years ago, I was a fan of. When people where declaring him over, did Rafael say he was done?

He never said anything like that, but it doesn't surprise me to see you actually believing it. :angel:

SheepleBuster
06-14-2010, 12:41 AM
Yes. You're saying the opposite of Federer when he said he didn't hope for it but he believed in it.

You don't believe in it, but you hope for it. :yeah:

Listen here. Hoping and praying is very powerful. I'll even try Voodoo dulls to see some folks retire from the game. OK maybe not. But no. Rafa is not done. Federer is not done either. The guy just does not hate losing like in the past. And the game is moving on. Is Hewitt an improved version? Not really. Roger should have won it today in 2 sets. He lost, just like he lost to Soderling, just like he lost to Baghdatis, Berdych, and all these people who have no business of beating Roger. But the defeat to Montanos was the worst. That guy has absolutely no business of beating Roger. With that said, if you can't beat Lopez or Fish, you'v got to seriously reevaluate your grass game.

star
06-14-2010, 12:51 AM
You forgot Gulbis.

Monta˝Ús

http://chadanielle.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/estoril-open-050910-montanes.jpg

partygirl
06-14-2010, 12:57 AM
Anyone can win on any day, this is what i love about tennis.

A lot of people seem to forget this...especially those bastard commentators. i wish they would die.

Getta
06-14-2010, 12:58 AM
Monta˝Ús

pfff... how can you become preoccupied with unimportant details and lose sight of the big picture?

star
06-14-2010, 12:59 AM
pfff... how can you become preoccupied with unimportant details and lose sight of the big picture?

I thought the guy who beat Feds at Estoril was worthy of some respect. :p

star
06-14-2010, 01:01 AM
Anyone can win on any day, this is what i love about tennis.

A lot of people seem to forget this...especially those bastard commentators. i wish they would die.

Here's a new idea.

You can get banned for wishing death on a player.

You can get banned for wishing death on a poster.

Can you get banned for wishing death on a commie?

:scratch:

Mjau!
06-14-2010, 01:13 AM
He never said anything like that, but it doesn't surprise me to see you actually believing it. :angel:

In fact, Federer called the "Rafa is done" talk, bulls**t. :bs:

star
06-14-2010, 01:30 AM
Did Roger really say that? How...like Roger. Just loss even more respect for him. And he was a player that just two years ago, I was a fan of. When people where declaring him over, did Rafael say he was done?



No, this was when Rafa went out a RG in '09.

Nothing to do with Rafa being "done." I was teasing Cyrusking. Best not to read too much into it. :p But, roger did say he didn't hope for it, but he believed in it. That is Rafa being beaten before the final.

Sunset of Age
06-14-2010, 01:34 AM
In fact, Federer called the "Rafa is done" talk, bulls**t. :bs:

Yep I know, and he was SPOT-ON, once again, just like Rafa defended Roger back in 2008. ;)

These two great champions know very well that one should never ever count out either of those.
Right on, there, Raf & Rog. VAMOS, HOPP!!! you two!!! :p :rocker2:

partygirl
06-14-2010, 03:09 AM
Here's a new idea.

You can get banned for wishing death on a player.

You can get banned for wishing death on a poster.

Can you get banned for wishing death on a commie?

:scratch:Well i meant die as in die out as a profession, but some of them could drop dead too.

Johnny Groove
06-14-2010, 03:11 AM
Well i meant die as in die out as a profession, but some of them could drop dead too.

Wishing death on commentators isn't very lady like, darling ;)

Sunset of Age
06-14-2010, 03:14 AM
Wishing death on commentators isn't very lady like, darling ;)

Talking shitty out-of-context talk isn't either.
Not addressed to you in particular. ;)

Johnny Groove
06-14-2010, 03:18 AM
Talking shitty out-of-context talk isn't either.
Not addressed to you in particular. ;)

What are you getting at, Karin? :p

Sunset of Age
06-14-2010, 03:24 AM
What are you getting at, Karin? :p

:angel: :angel: :angel:
Trolls who should remain ignored, from both sides of the fence eh Jon. :p :wavey:

Priam
06-14-2010, 04:06 AM
Like it matters anyway to players what nameless posters on a forum think of them after a loss.

Fed/Rafa: done,retire,utter crap,mug.

Sunset of Age
06-14-2010, 04:17 AM
Like it matters anyway to players what nameless posters on a forum think of them after a loss.

Fed/Rafa: done,retire,utter crap,mug.

How about "fantastic players, true champions, we'll be sorry when they're gone?..."

Got your point, yeah. ;)

Mimi
06-14-2010, 05:01 AM
Wishing death on commentators isn't very lady like, darling ;)

die and live in heaven is not really bad, sometimes suffering in the cruel world is much worst:p

tennis2tennis
06-14-2010, 05:27 AM
It always bothers me to hear people say Federer is done or Nadal is no good, or Murray will not challenge for Wimbledon when they lose a match. Sure. Federer should not lose to Hewitt nor should Nadal to Lopez or Murray to Fish. But let's be serious. Everybody loses. Some of these guys have been so consistent. I agree that Murray doesn't even belong in this conversation as he has not won a slam. Still, is it fair for fans to write people off even before the games are played?

Discuss

this forum won't be the same without...


kneejerk reactions
bandwagon jumping
sensless GOAT debates

paseo
06-14-2010, 05:31 AM
Fed is done. Nadal is done. Murray is done. I'm done. You should be done, too. Everybody's done.




Until Wimbledon starts next week, of course :D

Sunset of Age
06-14-2010, 05:43 AM
Fed is done. Nadal is done. Murray is done. I'm done. You should be done, too. Everybody's done.




Until Wimbledon starts next week, of course :D

I am done, too. :o
Until next week. :ras:

Wolfy
06-14-2010, 05:51 AM
Rafa has done many others maybe also..

raahaat7
06-14-2010, 05:54 AM
this forum won't be the same without...


kneejerk reactions
bandwagon jumping
sensless GOAT debates


4. And trolls like me.